[RBW] Pasela options?
Anyone had an opportunity to compare the new hypertex casing that's being offered in Soma's version of the Pasela with the standard and tourguard Pasela, both for ride quality and actual width/size? (I'm thinking that, since the new 650b version is narrower with the hypetex, that the 700c version might be as well) I'm hoping it rides similarly to the standard Pasela with the flat protection of the tourguard and maybe offers a perfect size for my Rambouillet with fenders... B-) I'd just go with the 32 but if it's a couple of mm's narrower than marked, I might be able to squeeze the 35 in there. Thanks, Steve Frederick, East Lansing MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Shoes
I didn't see a price--how much? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael_S Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:17 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Shoes wow I really like the Tourer model! And the price is reasonable. Would I look foppish in these shoes? I can just see the expression on my wifes face if I got a pair. It's amazing that these types of shoes http://www.vittoria1976.it/1976series_en.html are coming back in style. ~Mike On Jan 18, 11:08 am, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: no but they look pretty sweet. On Jan 18, 10:59 am, Bruce Baker bkno...@gmail.com wrote: Hey has anyone any experience with these bicycling shoes??http://www.quocpham.com/products/index.html Bruce- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners- bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw- owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Nitto Mark's Rack Hardware
This raises a question I've been ponderin' for a while. Does Nitto offer mini-rack style canti-mount struts for the Mark's rack? I've seen some made for the Campee rack but they're likely too short. Here: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=146_240products_id=7978 Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Lynn Skean Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:29 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Nitto Mark's Rack Hardware The RBW web site has lots of useful information how to install a Mark's Rack. It has pictures which include all of the hardware the rack originally came with. And it has pictures of the rack installed in various ways. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mark-s-rack-nitto/20-108 They also sell spares that you may need, including special Nitto vibration- resistant strut-attaching nuts/bolts/collars that I've never seen anywhere but from Nitto. Whether they have any in stock is always a question. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-rack-hardware/20-077 http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-band-clamps/20-016 The hardware is not particularly cheap. But the only things I've seen ready- to-use substitutes for in hardware stores are the normal- looking nuts/bolts/washers that connect the diving board to the rack platform and to the fork crown hole (all metric, which means not very common... and stainless metric is less so, though my local Ace has *some*) and the band clamps, which are sometimes referred to as P- clamps (though even those are hard-ish to find in stainless steel). Hope this helps. It's not complicated when you're looking at everything. But I do find it complicated to talk about in the abstract. Good luck! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jan 10, 8:33 pm, Jon Flaxman jonflax...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all from snowy Arkansas (!) The PO of my new-to-me Canti-Rom didn't pack the loose parts carefully and as such, I am now missing the mounting screws for the Mark's Rack. Anyone gave some spare parts hanging around, or know of the Home Depot alternatives? I'm at a disadvantage, as I've never seen one if these racks so I'm not sure what all is missing. I just know that I have a rack and no nuts or spacers or whatever. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners- bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw- owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Riding posture - advice appreciated
It runs counter to the typical Riv advice, but my back pain went away when I moved my saddle forward a bit. This was recommended during a pro fitting I had done in preparation for ordering a custom. The other trick I've tried with some success is more of an attitude/mental thing--what the club riders used to say was to keep your back flat/straight and your pelvis tilted, imagine you are trying to touch the top tube with your belly button... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Yeoh Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:41 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Riding posture - advice appreciated After looking at some photos taken by Early Grey of me riding his Sam with drop bars (example here:) http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5260456237/ I noticed that I am particularly bent in the lower back. Well, no surprise really, I've noticed this elsewhere in my life but cycling on drop bars makes it really pronounced. What are the implications of this crooked posture? How would one go about straightening the spine during cycling or anything else? On today's ride on my bike (Sam w moustache bars set about level with saddle height) I made an effort to keep my back straight and tilt the pelvis more. Not easy, and I had a mild back ache 30 minutes into the ride. What does that mean? On another note, on my way back down the mountain I had an absolute blast on the Sam. Smooth, fast and winding road on Marathon Extremes and tektro cantilevers - wow. To me, the way the Sam feels on fast descents is the highlight of this all-round fantastic bike. (the way downhills can be a highlight of the overall cycling experience, unless you're riding rough pavement on a racing frame with 23 mm slicks at 100 psi) The extremes probably slowed down overall speed a little but still rode very smooth and comfortable. Not buzzy at all. Any advice / help with improving my posture much appreciated! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners- bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw- owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Noodle vs Bullmoose?
I had a set of WTB Dirt drops on a bike that I used as an all rounder biased toward dirt surfaces and they were great. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Leslie Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:35 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Noodle vs Bullmoose? Interesting timing for this discussion, as I've been mulling similar questions. I've got 48cm Noodles on my Ram, love 'em. But I'm planning a Bombadil build. Originally had planned to just run w/ the Bullmoose. But, after seeing photos of Woodchippers on a Bomba, I started thinking about offroad drops. But, I'm not a hardcore offroader, mostly rails-to-trails... was starting to think that Rando bars might be the way to go. So, I hope everyone else continues to pitch in on this discussion, experiences, etc., so I can mull it all over Thx, -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simpleone and Rohloff hub
That seems like a big adjustment to me--maybe Riv could tell you for sure wheather it'd be safe or even adjust one for you at point of purchase. If it were me, I'd look for frames spaced to fit the hub, if the hub is central to the goals you have for the bike build...I'd think there would be quite a few options among the 29/singlespeed frames out there! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Scott G. Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:26 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simpleone and Rohloff hub Has anyone respaced a frame from 120mm to 135mm ? Did you need to get the brake bridge moved or replaced ? Rohloff in Africa http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16t=40881start=0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?
Thanks! I got more compliments on the bike since I put on the white accents last spring than I have in all the years I've owned it. The superflash mount--I just ran a brazeon/waterbottle screw though the hole for the screw that mounts the quick release mount to the seatpost clamp. Hole was a little small but it's plastic so the bolt cut threads as I turned it in. It works okay but tends to rotate down over time... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Angus Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:07 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s? That looks really nice Steve! How did you attach the SuperFlash rear light?...it almost looks like it us capture by the quick release. Thanks Angus On Nov 27, 6:27 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: My orange one's RB0202, still spiffily sporting the white tape/saddle combo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4479756577/ Anyone got a double-digit one? (or single!?) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of SStalcup Sent: Fri 11/26/2010 6:45 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s? I have RB0600 sold by Peter White as a frame. On Nov 18, 12:21 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 11/18/10 9:40 AM, NickBull at nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: But the SN's must not be precisely sequential, or at least something is off since SN #1163 is greater than the total made = 693+432=1125 Mine is RB0453. Is yours an orange Rambouillet? I sort of (not anywhere to verify right now) recall that there was a bit of a production gap between the first run (orange) and the first blue runs (separate printed flyer). It wouldn't suprise me if they restarted the s/n's at RB1XXX with the new run. But this is conjecture on my part. In other words, can anyone supply a low-numbered (under 1000) factory-blue Rambouillet serial number? Thanks for playing! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat 5KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?
My orange one's RB0202, still spiffily sporting the white tape/saddle combo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4479756577/ Anyone got a double-digit one? (or single!?) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of SStalcup Sent: Fri 11/26/2010 6:45 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s? I have RB0600 sold by Peter White as a frame. On Nov 18, 12:21 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 11/18/10 9:40 AM, NickBull at nick.bike.b...@gmail.com wrote: But the SN's must not be precisely sequential, or at least something is off since SN #1163 is greater than the total made = 693+432=1125 Mine is RB0453. Is yours an orange Rambouillet? I sort of (not anywhere to verify right now) recall that there was a bit of a production gap between the first run (orange) and the first blue runs (separate printed flyer). It wouldn't suprise me if they restarted the s/n's at RB1XXX with the new run. But this is conjecture on my part. In other words, can anyone supply a low-numbered (under 1000) factory-blue Rambouillet serial number? Thanks for playing! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: bar end shifter question
Getting that washer properly oriented is a rite of passage for barcon newbs--it's frustrating but less painful than the rite of passage for clipless pedal newbs...yikes! THUD! B-) Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI, who just got done with a nice 29 mile ride in the relatively mild low-40's weather...tho could have done without the drizzle toward the end. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of doug peterson Sent: Thu 11/25/2010 12:53 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: bar end shifter question Thanks to William Jon for their responses. That got it. The engagement tab on the Shimano washer needs to be pointed down. We've got clear skies cool temps here in SoCal, so a perfect day for a test ride. Happy Thanksgiving to all! dougP On Nov 24, 3:44 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Doug The clicks simply don't just go away. I think I can guess what you did. I suspect that the shifter was not all the way down when you removed it in the first place, so the whole lever part was already wound several clicks around the internal part which is supposed to stay in a fixed position. When you put it back together, you put the Shimano washer into the lever the only way it can go, with that single tab lined up with the slot in the shift lever, and then lined up the square recess on the back side of the Shimano washer with the square shape on the plug that's in the bar. You are probably just off by 90 degrees. If you suspect I'm right, do the following: 1. Move the shifter all the way down 2. Remove the shifter and the Shimano washer 3. Move the derailer by hand into the middle of the cogset. Pedal so the chain actually goes to a middle cog. That will put some slack in the cable 4. Now put the lever and Shimano assembly back on, but rotated 90 degrees. You might be pulling against cable, so help yourself out by pushing the derailer a little more or have a helper do that part 5. Snug up the screw that mounts the assembly back on 6. Now you should have the same couple of clicks in the pull direction, plus the missing 5 or so in the release direction I hope that's it. Bill On Nov 24, 2:39 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I should add that I didn't take apart anything other than the lever assembly loose from the mounting post. Everything was clean dry so I just put it back together at that point. Starting from the bottom (lever straight down) I get 2 clicks, then a long bit of travel, the 3 more clicks. The first click gets from small to next, but the next click jumps to the 4th cog (from the bottom). The last 3 engage the biggest 3 cogs correctly. dougP On Nov 24, 2:16 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: The shifting on my wife's new to her Atlantis seemed a bit stiff. Since the bike had been sitting most of its life, fresh cables seemed a good start. Like a good boy scout, I decided to check the Shimano 8 speed bar end shift levers for any dirt or crud. Somehow in the process of doing so I've lost the indexing in the middle of the lever throw. To all appearances everything only goes together one way, and nothing needs to be forced to assemble. On friction it works properly but she really likes her indexing. All the index positions worked before I took it apart. Any ideas as to what my fumbling fingers could have done? dougP- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil
Try some different grips with the Bullmoose bars first, maybe? Ergon makes a cork version now which isn't bad looking and they're very comfortable: http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/interbike2009-gp1-biokork The Nitto Periscopa is a good test stem to try on your way to deciding whether you need a custom. It's the right clamp diameter to fit mtb bars (unlike the Dirt Drop) and it's cheaper. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of williwoods Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:52 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Custom Stem? Who makes a worthy one for my Bombadil Hey guys. So I am having a bit of a dilema. Been riding my Bullmoose bars all week and my hands just arent agreeing with these. I am going to run either Porteur bars or Albatross or something similar with not a whole lot of rise not drop bars. There arent a whole lot of options these days as far as stems go. I believe what I want is a stem that has a bit of rise to it. This way I dont need to run a technomic raised all the way. I really like the Nitto Lugged stems and have thought about running a threadless Nitto with a Quill adapter. But that seems kinda silly. Another option I saw that I really liked was the Nitto Reversable stem but it looks like the only ones around are 60mm and those are $130..not that bad really but I think I need at least an 80mm, man these are so cool. Wish I could find an old Diamond Back MTB that had a similar stem stock on em also a nitto made item. I know about the Nitto Dirt Drop stems but honestly I find them a bit uglyis that silly of me? So the last thing I am contemplating is a Custom stem. If I get a custom stem made I would like to get something made that is similar to a lugged nitto, something that will match the personality of my frame and lugged seatpost I have. Any Ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters
If the bike the derailer is installed on has horizontal dropouts, you might find moving the wheel toward the front of the dropouts helps. Did for me, anyway... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Michael_S Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:45 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Problem with adjusting the rear derailler / bar-end shifters kinda amazing it doesn't work with all Shimano parts and specifically designated as 9 speed. As Jim pointed out something is not set up right if it doesn't work. I would try different shifters as my next choice of fixing the issue. I thought there was something unique about Dura Ace shifters compatibility too. I'm running all sorts of Suntour/Campy/shimaNo combinations and they all work fairly decent. ~Mike~ On Nov 16, 11:25 am, kuma dianevar...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Nov 16, 8:11 am, Juhani juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: The derailleur shifted relatively fine on the biggest cogs, but not the 3 smallest ones. If I adjusted it so that the smallest ones shifted fine, then the biggest wouldn’t - and vice versa. Can you elaborate on what shifted fine and wouldn't shift fine mean? Can you not get the chain to even go on the cog? Or is there just a tiny bit of rubbing? A lot of rubbing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Saluki, Sam Hillborne or Bombadil complete bike or frame only
Glad you got a test ride in--that makes a big difference. I'll have a 54cm Saluki for sale before too long--a custom replacement is in my future! (that would go well in the winter project, thread.) Most of the drivetrain and the wheels are going onto my new bike, but I could provide a partial build. The bike has some history--it was the first caramel-colored Saluki for example. It also has some history in that there are a few chipped paint spots and scrapes--no rust but some touching up has been done and more would be in order. Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=salukiw=40738390%40N08 Price to be determined by interest and what parts would be included. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of williwoods Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:30 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Saluki, Sam Hillborne or Bombadil complete bike or frame only I measured several times I have short legs and a longer upper body. Test rode a 52 Bombadil fits perfect and the owner has almost the same body type as I do he is 5'10 and has an 80 PBH. Saluki - 56 or 54 maybe Sam Hillborne - 52 Bombadil - 52 A Homer Hilsen - 56 I love em all and would ride em till the cows come home. They are pretty bikes that happen to make sense too (or maybe they are practical bikes that happen to look pretty?) On Nov 10, 4:12 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Do you have a frame size in mind? Your PBH sounds a little low for your height--my PBH is a smidgen higher than yours but I'm only 5'7. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of williwoods Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 4:10 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Wanted: Saluki, Sam Hillborne or Bombadil complete bike or frame only This is my first post here and looking forward to riding a Rivendell soon. This would actually be my first practical bike. Looking to purchase a Saluki or a Sam Hillborne or maybe a Bombadil. preference in that order. I would prefer to purchase a complete bike but am open to frame and fork sets`as well. My PBH is 80cm and I am 5'9 I am located in Culver City Ca (los Angeles) but am open to travel or ship the bike if you are not local. email: willh...@yahoo.com let me know what you have. Will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Any Tandems?
To bring this a bit more on topic, I wonder if a 700c, sidepull-braked tandem would work well as a 650b conversion? Our CoMotion has 26 wheels and cantis--it rolls great on pavement or dirt with Pasela 1.75s -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:14 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Any Tandems? +1 They're GREAT! Don't forget Co-Motion along w/ Burley and Santana. Hard to find models that take fat 700c tires as we tend to like, so you might want to look at 26 if you're planning on riding trails with it (which is AWESOME BTW!). On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 1:26 AM, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I leave it to the wisdom of the group. My girlfriend and I just recently test rode a tandem. We had a great time and found that riding a tandem works for both of our different riding styles. Wondering if any had any suggestions on tandem bikes we could take a look at? Manny, Look on craigslist. In your area there are likely lots of good, used tandems. Brands to look for: - burley - santana you'll see lots of those. Used tandems are significantly cheaper than new. Figure 75% off of new retail price. And yes - tandems let riders of disparate speed and cadences stay together and enjoy places together. They are great bikes and I think under-appreciated. We have a burley paso-doble and have been riding tandem for about 4yrs now. We love it. Sadly, riv does not, yet, make a tandem. You're very close to where rbwhq is, though, go harass Grant to make one, please. good luck, finding one - if there are any questions I can help with, feel free to email me. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] AHH on order
Congrats and welcome! I'm partial to White Industry hubs myself. Not sure you'd save any money with them over PW's though... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of dhk42 Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:16 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] AHH on order First post! I've been lurking here for a while now as I dithered about my potential purchase. After a second long conversation with RHQ I placed an order for a 71cm A. Homer Hilsen. Immediately after I was struck by the notion that I should have enlisted the wisdom of this list to help me decide the right course. Well, it is too late for you to help me decide between the 71 AHH and the 68cm diagonal Bombadil. Not that I wouldn't listen to opinions on the topic. :-) But hey! It is not too late to talk about components. So let's see, what do you need to know about me? I'm a 6'7 250lb 45 year old neophyte cyclist who has never ever ridden on a bike that fits or is set up properly. I have not owned or ridden a bike in a long time for that reason. I plan to ride on roads, rail trails, and dirt paths - I'm not sure how much. I'll never race. I'll never get really serious about hard core off roading. I have no plans to do lots of touring. First question: Phil hubs - are they worth it? David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project?
I've got Fizik-brand under tape gel on all my drop bar bikes--it's the best padding I've found. Lasts longer and is more comfortable than anything else I've tried... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:17 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: What's your winter project? Aside from renaissancing my 60s Gazelle Dutch twins, Huub and Mieke (both of which are Sport Luxe single-speed coaster models, but will get drum dynamo and 3 speed rear hubs), I plan to tweak/beautify the Noodle bar setup on my Bomba, starting with a harlequin tape pattern, funky whipping and a few coats of shellac. I am debating what type of cushion (if any) I can get away with near the hoods... any ideas? Also I will be tweaking my rack and bag setup, including permanently installing the bag-stiffeners in my VO Campagne handlebar bag, and making it easier to put on/ take off the rack and/or attach inside my Wald basket (which BTW I will first transform into a custom Woody basket)... Also building up a 1983 StumpJumper into a fine rider/commuter with vintage parts. Finally, adding internal-geared and dyno drum hubbed-wheels to a 1985 Rockhopper (Jeez!!! At this point it had better be a LONG winter... I mus'be talkin boo... I'll never get through all of these projects ) BB On Nov 8, 5:51 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I only shellack cloth bar tape. I accidentally splatter frames with shellac, but that's all. Another thing I might try is to Hunqa-fy my Hillborne. When the Marathon Duremes are back in, I'm planning on trying out a pair and taking the Hillborne-a-pillar into the dirt. On Nov 8, 12:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Bikes or bars (tape)? Curious about shellacking frames -- if that is what you did. This weekend's project: sturdy-fied a set of Axiom Dutch panniers. These are the ideal shopping panniers: big, relatively inexpensive, boxy, stiffened so that you can drop a full paper grocery sack into each side, easily drape over rack, cut away on leading side for foot clearance. But the older ones, as mine, have fiddly straps under the linking nylon webbing to attach them to the rack, AND they sag (sometimes into the rear spokes) if you put 20 lb in one. I bought a 6' length of 1/2 metal strip, cut in half, bent each half to fit inside the interior of the panniers' mouth, and riveted the bracings in place. Then I constructed a riveted, on-its-side (or horizontal) capital I on the center handle (central stiffener attached at ends to perpendicular braces) so that I can just drape the pair over the rack and secure one of the braces to a rack cross strut with a toe strap. Now, stiff enough and, very easy on and off. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:00 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: In the rain on Sunday I did give a couple bikes an extra coat of clear shellac. My clear Bullseye is almost out, so I'm going to use it up and ditch the can. On Nov 8, 10:57 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: My project is converting a ~1980 Takara Overland touring bike I acquired over the summer to a scorcher-ish fixed gear. Been thinking about this project for a while, just have to scrap together the funds. Excited to see how it comes out. On Nov 8, 10:10 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: As the weather turns cooler, I am starting to dwell on winter projects. A lot of them are home and family related, but some of them are Riv-ish, so I thought I would share. In 2010 I pretty much overhauled my stable of bikes, and now am almost 100% dialed. So I'm not due for any complete overhauls. I am building a second configuration for my Bombadil. It's set up for dedicated dirt riding now, but I'll be putting together a Campeur kit for it this winter (drop bars, fenders, racks, bags). So next time a week-plus touring opportunity presents itself, the Bombadil will be the bike for it. What do you do in the winter? Overhaul your favorite bike? Go through the parts stash and clean house? Start up a new bike project? Take on a restoration? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to
RE: [RBW] The takeover is progressing
If it's anything like the chart that came with my Cateye, the number for 650bX38 is wildly innaccurate--I think it said 211 and my rollout test (Mitsuboshi Trimlines) was 202 or thereabouts... Steve, like computers for mileage, don't care about average speed much, Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of William Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:40 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] The takeover is progressing It's the first time I've looked so it's no surprise it's the first time I've seen it. I went ahead and put a cyclometer on my 650B Hilsen (I'm wanting to work up to a 400K in 2011). I was surprised and pleased to see on the calibration chart for the cheapie CatEye cyclometer, that there was an entry for 650x38B! We're mainstream! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] New Roadeo pics
Nice bike! One suggestion--on my bikes with silver headsets and black stems, I alternate black and silver spacers--it softens the transition and makes the spacer stack a bit less obvious. To my eye at least! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of reynoldslugs Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:04 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] New Roadeo pics Just picked this up from the LBS. Ordered this several months ago - - multiple communications with John, Grant, and Keven, and I cannot speak highly enough of their patience, the quality of the work, the quality of the paint, and my very, very high level of unspeakable joy with this bike. Sorry for the crummy photos - - I'm not much with a digital camera. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563...@n06/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563...@n06/sets/72157625159065507/ The color - - the new gunmetal/battleship grey rolled about by Rivendell about a year ago - - is phenomenally mellow, beautiful. I have more than a few bicycles - - and none is more beautiful than this little Nine Pound Hammer. The build is much different, much more modern than most of my other bikes, and certainly not a typical Riv-ish build, to the extent that could be characterized. But it is sweet, like ice cream and pie. Here are the details: Older Campagnolo Record 10 shifters,taken from a 10 year old Colnago Masterlight, which is now hanging nude in the rafters FSA triple, 24-38-48. Inner rings are TA's. The mix of silver and black actually looks ok. From the same Colnago. Salsa Bell Laps Selle Anatomica for Clyde Campagnolo ten speed 12-29 Record long cage derailleur and cassette Easton carbon post from that Colnago Mavic Aksiums - - sure, they're just out of a box, but I use and abuse these happily on several other bikes Schwalbe Kojaks - sticky pillows for the lusty Sonoma County roads. Acorn Rollup donated by an Orange Paramount Tektro Wide Mouth brakes, from RBW Keos Ride reports to follow. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Well that's...not cool! Did he say why he went to the other store? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Fri 10/29/2010 7:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site My first bike shop job was at one of the larger shops in the area, and the owner is/was a pretty hard-headed, sharp-elbowed businessman. I remember one time hearing him telling an aspiring-but-procrastinating customer I'm not operating a museum. That has stuck with me over the years - in this business I can have nice bikes on display and offer lots of good advice to anybody who comes through the door, but merchandise has to be sold and cash has to flow in. Tire-kickers and gawkers need to be subsidized by the people who buy stuff. Recently my staff and I spent a couple hours with a customer, answering questions, letting him ride different bikes, etc. On his third call, he started asking about different handlebars, and I answered his questions based on my experience. Ten minutes into the call he tells me he decided to buy the bike, which I had in stock, from another place. I just remembered, I'm not operating a museum (or, for that matter, a free consulting business), and the remainder of the conversation was incredibly brief. I am glad that I got off the phone quickly, because I was somewhat angry about it... On Oct 29, 6:02 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Jim Hill's comments remind me, for some reason, of a quote they used to hang on the wall in City Lights Bookstore, in SF: People who say they love poetry and never buy any are a bunch of cheap sons-of-bitches. - attributed variously to Kenneth Patchen and Lawrence Ferlinghetti Hope that doesn't offend anyone, it's offered in humor. Anyway I needed some new woolie stuff, so I ordered it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: Just Thoughts
...we can draw analogies from something other than car culture, can't we? This is America--what do you think? B-) (Car analogies are the Cadillac of analogies) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Tires for the Winter
Yeah, we really need to know winter tires for where and what conditions. Is the OP in Florida or Fairbanks? Steve (in Michigan where studded tires are near-mandatory) -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Mike Sent: Thu 10/28/2010 4:25 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Tires for the Winter If you don't need tires with studs, the basic Schwalbe Marathons are a great way to go. Also pretty inexpensive. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Derailleur Cabling
My local shop just gave me a couple of feet of that plastic tubing--lifetime supply! I don't always use it--cables are pretty smooth and I've run them bare through the cast in guides and it's been fine. Even if it wears through the paint eventually, the continuous contact/motion of the cable prevents rust. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Seth Vidal Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 2:38 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Derailleur Cabling On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 2:31 PM, kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Are the derailleur cables on my Bleriot meant to run bare under the bottom bracket, or should there be something between the wire and the paint? The guides don't seem to be wide enough to accept cable housing, but it's hard for me to believe that the paint down there is going to hold up very long against the sawing motion of the derailleur cables. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin not sure where to buy the little pieces of plastic but you can take some shifter cable housing strip the housing and the metal off of it and the inside will have these little pieces of tubular plastic. put a 3-4 segment of those around your cable under the bottom bracket and it shouldn't abrade the paint. At least - it hasn't for me so far. if anyone happens to know if you can BUY that stuff somewhere w/o having to strip it off excess shifter housing, I'd be all ears. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry
I've been thinking about a Gamoh rack for my commuter--is there any obvious way to mount a light on it? (eyelet, etc) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 8:12 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Bombadil Ancestry I just installed a Gamoh cargo rack on my '85 Stumpy, and while it's heavyish (5 lbs), the bike has taken on a new persona... I really like it. The HT angle on the 85 Stumpy was changed to 70 degrees, and yet there is still some flop to deal with... Still, I'd just say be conscious of it, riding no hands will take some extra balls and skill, and hold onto the bars when you're stopped. I personally love the old Stumpies, and I prefer to think they ride like hogs rather than pigs... Here's my favorite hog that I built for my bro: http://tinyurl.com/26mk55t It rides amazingly well around town (which is what it was rebuilt for)... But I wouldn't take this on rocky-rooty trails. I'll snap a photo of the Gamoh rack a bit later... I still have to tweak the crown-mount bracket to clear my cantis. Peace BB On Oct 25, 7:01 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Your cautions noted. Thanks. Warnings aside, I really need to put something up there. The trips are short enough, and I typically load the heavy stuff in back. Two cases of beverages are the usual limit back there - cans, not bottles. A front basket is preferable to a swinging bag-o-food held in one hand or over the bars while riding in any case, and I've found myself in that condition too frequently. I'll limit the damage by avoiding the giant Wald basket up there, and go with the huge. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Rack swap
Hey, Ken-thanks--I have a fellow that spoke up to buy it on the Bob list last evening so if a trade doesn't happen he gets first say, but I'll keep you in mind... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Ken Freeman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:00 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Rack swap I don't have a trade for you unless you would like to try a TA front rack in excellent condition, but I could see buying your R-10. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I have a lightly used Nitto R-10 bag support that I'd like to trade for a Mark's rack--anyone interested? Mine's like this: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=872currency=USD products_id=872currency=USD Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Rack swap
I'm inclined to stick with Nitto anyway... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Ken Freeman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:07 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Rack swap I guess being an RBW discussion we can't look at the V-O Constructeur rack. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Hey, Ken-thanks--I have a fellow that spoke up to buy it on the Bob list last evening so if a trade doesn't happen he gets first say, but I'll keep you in mind... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Ken Freeman Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:00 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Rack swap I don't have a trade for you unless you would like to try a TA front rack in excellent condition, but I could see buying your R-10. On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I have a lightly used Nitto R-10 bag support that I'd like to trade for a Mark's rack--anyone interested? Mine's like this: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=872currency=USD products_id=872currency=USD Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Saluki Tubing Specs
To the best of my knowledge, all Rivendells have always been made from OS tubing, varied in stiffness/butting profile over size ranges... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of rcnute Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:00 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Saluki Tubing Specs My dim recollection is that the tubing was stouter on 58s and up. I thought the Japanese Rivs were OS Tohoku or Kasei. Ryan On Oct 17, 9:18 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: All this talk about standard vs OS tubing over on some other list has me curious: Anyone know the tubing specs for a 62cm Saluki? Who made the tubing? Was it all standard size? I've heard it might have been 8-5-8 all around. Was that true in every size? Grant? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: SKS Secrets
In my experience, the SKS P-50 is a better match for 650b tires. I've use them with everything from Col de la Vie's to Hetres and Fatty Rumkins and they've worked fine... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of kevin lindsey Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 11:49 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: SKS Secrets Thanks for the thorough reply. Pending further input, I'm leaning towards the conclusion that P45s simply don't work very well with 41mm tires. However, I'll make a call up to RBW later this morning for their input. The warp was noticeable right out of the box, with a 15-20 degree twist. Even with the greatest clearance I obtained on my front fenders, the warp still rubbed my tire. Kevin On Oct 18, 8:41 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed SKS's a few times (i have a couple of pairs which i put on seasonally here in norcal); it's definitely a trick the first time but gets easier each time you do it. In terms of clearances, the fender clearance is determined by two things: the width of the fender and the positioning of the frame bridges/fork crown. The rule for adequate clearance with fender size is usually tire width+ ~10mm; so if you're using 41mm tires you should be shooting for about a 50mm wide fender. If your SKS's are the P50 model then you should be all right, if they're something smaller like the P45 that might be causing some of your clearance issues. Other bleriot owners will have to chime in to tell you whether or not the frame can take that combination, I don't have experience with them myself. My usual order of operations is to secure the fork crown mount and bridge mounts in the rear, focusing on having a good fender line between the bridges, and then sliding the rear of each fender in on the stays (leaving all 4 nuts loose) until the fender line matches, at which point i secure the bolts. I will say that I'm probably way less picky about fender line than most on here. Since fenders are kind of a functional, seasonal thing for me I don't really care about getting them just so. In terms of the front of the fender being warped, do you only notice it on the bike or or when it's off? If it's only on the bike, it may be that your brakes (i assume you're using the silver sidepulls) are deflecting it a little, that happens with the shimano sidepulls on one of my bikes. Again, it's only a few mm so I don't really care about it, YMMV. On Oct 18, 7:49 am, kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the process of building my Bleriot and thought a pair of SKS fenders would be practical and look great, too. However, I was naively unprepared for the amount of tweaking, cutting, fitting, and cursing required to install these things on my bike, a circumstance made worse by the almost-nonexistent instructions included with the fenders. Suffice it to say that I botched the job and have had to order a new set of stays for my second installation attempt. Couple of questions: a) I have a set of 41mm 650bs and am a little concerned about whether there is enough room for tires this big and a set of fenders on the Bleriot. I got the rear fender installed more or less OK, but the clearance between it and the tire was really tight. Am I pushing things to far to expect 41s to fit with fenders? b) Are there any secrets I'm overlooking when installing SKSs? c) The front of my front fender came warped. Is there a way of unwarping it, or will I have to cut it off? Thanks in advance for any help. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bike Life
This is our quiet little corner of the web where we get to make the occasional snide comment about carbon fiber bikes. It doesn't make up for the derision and contempt heaped upon our heavy, steel bikes elsewhere on the web and in the real world but it's all we have. Don't take it away from us! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of bfd Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:33 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Bike Life On Oct 17, 9:11 pm, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote: Great Post Anne. I had a ride in late September that my Carbon friends bailed on because of the threat, threat mind you not actual, of rain. I shook my head and went out and had a wonderful ride with hardly a sprinkle. I figured next time I get this response I would ask if it was really true that carbon melts in the rain? Whoa, what's up with the carbon bashing. Have you ever consider that most carbon bikes don't have room for fenders and that is probably the reason your friends don't ride in the rain! I have a carbon Calfee and love it. For any ride over 40 miles, that is my go to bike to ride. Comfort, light, smooth and quiet.The only down side is there isn't any room for fender, especially under the carbon fork. Note, I've been caught out in the rain on my Calfee and since it doesn't have fenders, you get pretty wet :) So, I ended up getting a steel cross bike and putting fenders on it for commuting and riding in the rain. Not as nice a ride as my carbon, but for short rides and wet weather it works. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650b QB geometry?
Anyone know offhand where one might find the geometry specs for the smaller, 650b wheeled Quickbeams? (50 and 52 cm) The QB chart stops at 54cm, which was the smallest they made 'til the last batch... Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: good looking hunqs
I saw one of these Kona's the other day and it made me think of the extra TT placement controversy: http://www.konaworld.co/bike.cfm?content=humu Not bad looking in a townie/cruiser sort of way... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of eflayer Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 1:54 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: good looking hunqs If you are going to have an extra tube, that's where it should go. That's a hunka hunka burning steel. On Oct 12, 12:25 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Wow--that is a spectacular bike. Excellently photographed. Nicely done. Rob in Seattle On Oct 11, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I think he's on the list but I just saw this hunquapillar tonight: http://www.flickr.com/photos/devildotbunny/5072896097/ This should be the one riv shows on their website b/c holy crap is that a gorgeous build. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] wide-Q road crankset?
Plus, the old style, square taper campy cranks have been going cheap on ebay...nice quality stuff for those that don't necessarily have to have the latest/greatest... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] wide-Q road crankset? A Campy Veloce triple with a 118 BB? (I run it on a Riv Road std with a 113 and it's plenty wide enough for me. The rings are 52/42/30) _ From: andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 2:15:54 PM Subject: [RBW] wide-Q road crankset? Can anyone recommend a wide-ish Q road crankset? i'm looking for something like a 52/42/30 with a 170 length and a tread of 165. not sure if such a beastie exists, and a weekend of googling hasn't turned it up. I'd be happy with a non-compact double as well, though I bet a wide-Q version is even less likely. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue
Just unzip the ankle zipper a bit when you get there and instant bell bottoms! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Michael_S Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:25 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue I've used the Hind Munich tapered running pant a bunch too. I find them a little too tapered for rides to the pub or coffee shop. Great for hiking/xc sking etc though. ~Mike~ On Oct 4, 10:44 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I've had good luck with tapered running pants from the local runners shop (Playmakers in Okemos) I think the ones I bought were Hind, brand. I also like Zoic's bamboo-material knickers, Reign I think is the model name. Nice construction and details, very comfortable and well made. (run tight in the waist, tho) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of jim_OLP Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 9:35 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] perennial pants issue Every year when it starts to get cold, I undertake a futile search for cycling pants that don't look like something from the ballet or the circus. I mean pants, not lycra tights. And not rain pants, which tend to be way too baggy and - if they're Rivendll - too orange. I want nylon pants that block the wind but are trim enough so they don't flutter in the wind, and will stay out of the way of the chain, preferablly with some sort of cinch around the ankle. I need pockets too. Wool would be great, but I know that's not going to happen. I'd buy the MUSA pants, but I can't do the blue crotch. Just too conspicuous. Ooooh, are those bicycling pants? Where did you get them? It's hard to Google on this without getting 50 pages of black spandex tights. Does anyone else makes something just like the MUSA pants, but without the 2-tone color scheme? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Saluki build decisions
I'm pretty sure Saluki's are spaced 132.5mm so you can run hubs with either OLD. Mine is anyway. Alternatively, you can have a 130 hub respaced to 135--my LBS did that for the 105-hubbed wheels I put on Anne's Bleriot... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of nathan spindel Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:13 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki build decisions Ah, you're right, William. The Saluki is indeed 135mm and the VO wheels are 130mm - oops. I'll be able to figure something out. -nathan On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:50 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I thought the Saluki was 135mm spacing? nathan spindel wrote: I ended up going with the VO Diagonale / 105 wheels from my LBS — it ended up being the best value with the local bike coalition discount and no need to pay shipping. The lady also likes the polish on the rims. ;) -nathan On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:20 AM, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote: I agree, but the $50 difference really lose meaning after about 3-4 years of use. Franklyn On Oct 4, 4:03 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: For a light person with only light touring in mind I think the $200 set is a screaming deal. I have the same set on my Bleriot and have had no issues in the past two years with a ton of miles. If you are considering heavier touring you may want to upgrade but it sounds like you are not. On Oct 4, 4:21 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I've had GB Oursons on my Saluki for about a year now and like them a lot. At 60 - 65 psi they are as fast as I can go, at 50 - 55 psi they are more comfortable over poorer surfaces. Tread pattern is the same as Col de la Vie, but with a lighter, more lively casing. Based on little wear they evidence after 1,000 miles, I suspect I'll have them for a while. From: rb b...@projectblu.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 6:57:03 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Saluki build decisions For a light person, get light tires! You also might want to consider the 32mm Grand Bois Cypres tires which are fast and long lasting. Col de Vie sucks a bit of life out of a lively bike; great for lots of off roading and winter, but less so on the road. The Cypres offer more than enough cush for a lighter person + the speed factor is really great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue
They seem to be in stock: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/wool-semi-tights/22-271 -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Phil Bickford Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:05 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue I see it's time for the Perennial Plea: BRING BACK THE WOOLY WARM PANTS!! or at least something similar. A pant made in merino wool a little looser than the Ralphas. - no dressy garmet pockets or details though. Maybe zippered pockets. Unfortunately VERY expensive for something you'll wear the seat out of - but long lasting otherwise. OK - sorry, you're right I am whining. Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] perennial pants issue
I've had good luck with tapered running pants from the local runners shop (Playmakers in Okemos) I think the ones I bought were Hind, brand. I also like Zoic's bamboo-material knickers, Reign I think is the model name. Nice construction and details, very comfortable and well made. (run tight in the waist, tho) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of jim_OLP Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 9:35 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] perennial pants issue Every year when it starts to get cold, I undertake a futile search for cycling pants that don't look like something from the ballet or the circus. I mean pants, not lycra tights. And not rain pants, which tend to be way too baggy and - if they're Rivendll - too orange. I want nylon pants that block the wind but are trim enough so they don't flutter in the wind, and will stay out of the way of the chain, preferablly with some sort of cinch around the ankle. I need pockets too. Wool would be great, but I know that's not going to happen. I'd buy the MUSA pants, but I can't do the blue crotch. Just too conspicuous. Ooooh, are those bicycling pants? Where did you get them? It's hard to Google on this without getting 50 pages of black spandex tights. Does anyone else makes something just like the MUSA pants, but without the 2-tone color scheme? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
From: James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net For that color of Ram, the bike ends up looking really good when you go with all black tires, black bar tape, and black saddle. From: Steve Palincsar Looks good with the blue, but it might just be a bit over the top Halloweenish for an orange/creamsicle one. Think so? http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/5025927918/ Yeah, maybe. B-) Steve Frederick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell
You can get a nice repaint for half that dollar difference. If you don't care about fenders, I vote Rambouillet... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:44 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Help me choose a Rivendell 1) It will be a bit newer. 2) You get clearance for Jack Browns with fenders. Ram can't do that. 3) You can go threadless if you want (may be irrelevant depending on your pref). 4) More choices of color 5) Slightly shorter chainstay (if I remember your intended uses correctly) Some good points. 1. Can't argue that (although this one is pretty great condition) 2. I don't want to run fenders on that bike because it won't need them. I can get Jack Brown's on without fenders. 3. I would go threaded even with the Roadeo because I prefer it. 4. This is my only drawback. Love the blue but I was going to get an orange Roadeo 5. I will need to think about that one. I just am not sure the color is worth and extra $1800. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: MKS Touring Pedal
Pliers padded with a rag worked for mine... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of JB Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 7:16 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: MKS Touring Pedal I don't have the tool, but one of my vice grips have a curved jaw that matches the indents on the cap. It's worked well. John On Aug 31, 3:02 pm, Jon Grant jgr...@papagrant.com wrote: bfd asked: Do you need a special tool to remove the dust cap? Thanks! --- It¹s possible to use pliers, but I've never done it without bunging up the edge. I like the tool for it: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/mks-pedal-tool/19-027 -- Jon Papa Grant Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Rear Hub Advice
-Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:09 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rear Hub Advice I agree LX are a great value...SNIP ...Additional question regarding brakes. I'm looking for the best possible braking for the Bombadil, and don't mind spending extra money to get really strong stopping power (after being spoiled by hydraulic disc brakes on the Fargo). I'm considering the Avid Single Digit Ultimates (which are quite spendy... $180 a pair on sale!!, but reviewers rave about the power and performance of these)... Anyone using these brakes? If you don't mind NOT spending the extra money and speaking of LX, I've been pleased with the braking performance of the LX-level V brakes I put on my Kogswell PR... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Rear Hub Advice
That's true in the mountain bike linup--LX became a Trekking, group, mainly available in Europe. Nice stuff for Riv/Bobbish bikes if you can get it... http://techdocs.shimano.com/techdocs/blevel.jsp?ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181679FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302061569bmUID=1259354375402 Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:28 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rear Hub Advice Do they still make LX? The young man (snort, mumble, mutter) at the LBS told me that SLX had taken its place right under XT. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I think Shimano LX hubs are a pretty great deal. I have them on a cargo bike that I use in all kinds of nasty weather, I routinely carry myself (200 punds) plus over 100 pounds in the front bed, plus the weight of the bike which must be another 35-40 pounds. No sign of trouble after 1-1/2 years of hard use. Thats a 9 speed freehub laced 36 to a 26 sun rim and a small front wheel (20). It's worth looking at if the phil's are not reasonable enough! On Aug 30, 9:29 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I think that the main advantage of the Phil FW hub is that you get a super nice, super strong hub and axle with extremely durable cartridge bearings at a *reasonable* price. I don't know of a cassette hub with those characteristics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange
If it were me (tho perhaps this falls outside your budget) I'd order up a Roadeo with Rambouillet orange paint... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Eric Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:17 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange I missed out on another so if you're looking to part with one, I'm your man! Thanks!! - Eric On Jul 26, 4:39 pm, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote: Haha! I'm 32 and in a Grad program at Northwestern. The class cost a ton! So I'm ready to do a 100 mile ride from Chicago to Milwaukee on Sunday 100 miles back on Monday. And my mom tells me oh honey, you better study...did I mention I'm 32, far from high school! But I did as I was told, like a good boy! I'll score an orange Rambo sooner or later...thanks! On Jul 26, 2:17 pm, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, you need to learn how to procrastinate. Proper order of operations: craigslist: Rivendell eBay: Rivendell beer snack facebook/tv homework On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:08 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Let this be a lesson to surf ebay before and during homework.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] New bike and help me find a headlight for my moustache bars
Or go with one of these if you have an appropriate braze-on. Got one on my commuter... http://www.atoc.com/litebeams.php -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:21 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] New bike and help me find a headlight for my moustache bars Look at Velo Orange (or a good bike shop) for the Minoura Besso Holder which can clamp to you fork leg. http://www.velo-orange.com/mibeliho.html I've made my own out of 2 sections of handlebar and hose clamps (dremel the fork side to fit the contour of the fork blade) and they actually don't look as bad as they sound. Very sturdy, too. But the MB is a lot easier and ought to work well, tho' I don't like their clamp design for its fiddliness -- again, despite that, it seems to clamp well. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Adam Kimball adamfkimb...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, I finally made it! About four years ago I first saw an AHH, and I lusted for it. I ended up cheaping out a bit and buying a new Ram that showed up on ebay. Hardly cheaping out, I know, but the complete bike was only about $100 more than the AHH frame. This time, I found the frame locally (thanks Don!) and just had it built up with a hodge- podge of parts that keeps it real, but also kept it cheap. I'll have time to upgrade this and that later. Whether I will like this bike more than my Big Dummy is an open question (but also an apples and oranges comparison). Anyway, I love it - and thanks to this list for all the helpful advice. I'll post some pics soon. That said, I need a new cheap headlight. I'll put a generator hub and a light on it someday, but for now - money must be saved. I tried to put on my Planet Bike light but it wouldn't fit around the moustache bars, the cable which runs under the tape, and some pretty thick leather tape. If any of you have been through this issue - what light did you settle on? Something under $30 ideally. Thanks, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange
Sure is pretty though...B-) -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 3:41 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 08:53 -0400, Frederick, Steve wrote: If it were me (tho perhaps this falls outside your budget) I'd order up a Roadeo with Rambouillet orange paint... Do you remember how difficult it was to match Rambouillet orange for touch-up purposes? It wasn't just orange, it also had a pearl layer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Renovelo Frames
I loved the way it looked and it was my size but I learned from my time owning a Rawland Olaf that singlespeed, rigid mountain bikes weren't my thing...my 650b Quickbeam set up as an all'rounder suits me better. If I hadn't gotten the QB though, I'dve been sorely tempted. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:26 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Renovelo Frames If it was my size, I'd probably have bought it. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if a Rivendell production fixed gear super-light mountain bike would sell, or if the appeal of that frame was its uniqueness? It seems like most of the people here who wanted it were relieved when they couldn't have it. Philip 97128 On Aug 22, 5:19 am, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Aug 21, 4:01 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: and the listing for THE ONE is now gone. Best of luck to the lucky individual that bought it. Yup, as of 5:00pm Friday it was sold. I agonized over it alll day Saturday and was somewhat relieved to find out it was no longer available. The last thing I need is another bike, but that one really called out to me. Ted Durant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA One man's religion is another man's belly laugh. --Robert A. Heinlein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:21 -0700, andrew hill wrote: I do have some kneed problems on one side, especially an IT band problem that cropped after a century in June.. perhaps less bend would help that. Steve P. suggested: Or a higher Q. Or LeWedges. I got a packet of these a couple of weeks ago and they've made a noticeable difference in my pedaling comfort and efficiency. Knee pain is getting better and shoe comfort is improved, too. (less pressure/rubbing on the little toe side of the foot) This old review led me to seek them out: http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/prodreview/newproduct/lewedge.html Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Good News for Melinda Lyon
Wonder if she has to pay her insurance company back for the settlement from when it was stolen? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Larry Powers Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:57 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Good News for Melinda Lyon She was interviewed on local TV and the bike looked pretty good there. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:12:47 -0700 From: jimcwar...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Good News for Melinda Lyon Painful to hear of a $3000 Rivendell getting exchanged for $200, but it sounds like the story's ending might be happy. Hopefully no damage to the frame beyond the cosmetic. -Original Message- From: Phil Bickford phi...@sonic.net Sent: Aug 18, 2010 11:26 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Good News for Melinda Lyon My Mom sent me an article clipped from the Salem News: August 12, 2010 After two years, woman's stolen bicycle is found By Bruno Matarazzo Jr. Staff Writer, Salem News - Salem Massachusetts SALEM — Boxford resident Melinda Lyon gave up hope of ever finding her bike after it had been stolen two years ago. But when a friend was shopping around for a bicycle recently, they came across an interesting find: Lyon's custom $3,000 Rivendell bicycle. The bicycle had been on sale on the website Craigslist. It's pretty amazing when you think about it, Lyon said. The person that saw it knew right away it was mine. Lyon rides her bike from her Boxford home to Salem Hospital, where she has worked for 23 years. She makes the 30-mile round trip each day, except for the colder months. Two years ago, a thief broke the lock and stole her bike. After the theft, she searched a number of websites and local bike shops, but nothing turned up — until Tuesday. Lyon eventually bought a new bike after putting in a claim with her homeowner's insurance. Salem Detective Sgt. James Page said they don't know who stole the bicycle but were able to recover it yesterday from a Somerville man who paid $200 for it on Tuesday. The Somerville man bought the bike from a Marblehead man who didn't know it had been stolen. Police were able to match the serial number on the bike turned in with Lyon's bike. It goes to show you, Melinda and her friend never gave up on it, Page said. We're happy she's happy. Detectives Tom Brennan and Jack Doyle handled the investigation, according to Page. Page said Lyon plans to pick up her bicycle today. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here
Yeah, I don't know if you'd lose any function by using a home made shim, a small washer or something. They weren't a ton of money though, and the instructions and versatility (each shim is very thin and thus they can be customized by stacking them) made them a worthy investment to me... ...they addressed exactly the sort of shoe issue you describe, Patrick, FWIW. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 1:51 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here This is excellent information. I have, with most shoes and pedals, a chronic burn -cum- ache on the outside of my left foot thanks, I think, to a foot that is canted outward. I know that, when I deliberately cant the foot inward, it relieves the slight but real pain. I must try a shim under my cleats -- don't see why you need to pay for a specially made device for this purpose. Odd, but old Shimano M540s and M520s are more comfortable in this respect than any other pedals I've used including platforms and wide MKS Tourings. But these don't have the cachet of newer, shinier and lighter pedals that make me go faster. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:21 -0700, andrew hill wrote: I do have some kneed problems on one side, especially an IT band problem that cropped after a century in June.. perhaps less bend would help that. Steve P. suggested: Or a higher Q. Or LeWedges. I got a packet of these a couple of weeks ago and they've made a noticeable difference in my pedaling comfort and efficiency. Knee pain is getting better and shoe comfort is improved, too. (less pressure/rubbing on the little toe side of the foot) This old review led me to seek them out: http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/prodreview/newproduct/lewedge.html Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here
I was tempted in that direction but the shims wouldn't easily fit in my SIDI's and I didn't really want the expense of new shoes. If the cleat shims hadn't helped I think I would've been looking for a pair of Specialized shoes. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Michael_S Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 2:32 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here Specialized uses a varus wedge in their Body Geometry shoes that that accomplishes the same canting . I have used them exclusively for 5 years and they have eliminated any foot or knee issues I used to have. They also sell a shim that goes inside your shoe under the footbed for the non clipped-in set. ~Mike~ On Aug 20, 11:02 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Yeah, I don't know if you'd lose any function by using a home made shim, a small washer or something. They weren't a ton of money though, and the instructions and versatility (each shim is very thin and thus they can be customized by stacking them) made them a worthy investment to me... ...they addressed exactly the sort of shoe issue you describe, Patrick, FWIW. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 1:51 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: VO 50.4 BCD Crankset is here This is excellent information. I have, with most shoes and pedals, a chronic burn -cum- ache on the outside of my left foot thanks, I think, to a foot that is canted outward. I know that, when I deliberately cant the foot inward, it relieves the slight but real pain. I must try a shim under my cleats -- don't see why you need to pay for a specially made device for this purpose. Odd, but old Shimano M540s and M520s are more comfortable in this respect than any other pedals I've used including platforms and wide MKS Tourings. But these don't have the cachet of newer, shinier and lighter pedals that make me go faster. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:21 -0700, andrew hill wrote: I do have some kneed problems on one side, especially an IT band problem that cropped after a century in June.. perhaps less bend would help that. Steve P. suggested: Or a higher Q. Or LeWedges. I got a packet of these a couple of weeks ago and they've made a noticeable difference in my pedaling comfort and efficiency. Knee pain is getting better and shoe comfort is improved, too. (less pressure/rubbing on the little toe side of the foot) This old review led me to seek them out: http://www.slowtwitch.com/mainheadings/prodreview/newproduct/lewedge Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650b tire swap-Hetres for Motos?
I have a set of lightly used Hetres, black tread, tan sidewall that I'd swap for a set of similarly used all black Pacenti PariMotos. I like the Hetres fine but I'd like to try Pari's on this bike (650b Quickbeam) and I think it'd look good with black tires... Sorry for the cross post, fellow multi-listers! Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Hillborne out of town
Well, sure--that's just the sort of stuff these bikes were designed for! The railtrails in Wisconsin are great, aren't they? Had a blast riding them on the Saluki a couple of summers ago... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of EricP Sent: Thu 7/29/2010 8:53 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Hillborne out of town Took the wife and our bikes on a short trip this weekend. Went to Wisconsin to ride, eat, and relax. Had been on these trails a couple of months ago, but with a different bike. This time, took the Hillborne. After some misgivings, realized the bike could handle these trails just fine. About perfectly, in fact. The 40mm wide tires were wide enough for the gravel and less than optimum paving. And the high handlebars and comfy handling of the bike combined to make riding seriously fun. The only thing less than ideal was the weather, which was slightly on the hot and humid side. Although not as bad as feared. At least until Tuesday. A short jaunt on the trails that morning had me perspiring quite freely. Didn't see any fish mistaking the air for the water, but it was close. May be adding a few photos to this set in the near future. Had to get a roll of film developed. And, well, we'll see what develops. Otherwise, the set is here - http://tinyurl.com/2bdcrct BTW, finally have over 1,000 miles on the Hillborne. For some reason, it was the last of the three main bikes to do that this year. Will need to make up for that. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: Hillborne out of town
The railtrail that goes east out of LaCrosse was super-nice! I think I read that it's the first ever... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of EricP Sent: Sat 7/31/2010 8:44 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Hillborne out of town True. However, my other two bikes have tires 50mm and 60mm wide. So these are positively skinny for that type of riding. Yes, the rail-trails are great. Ended up purchasing a season pass to take advantage of them. (Next on the list, lower half of Gandy Dancer trail.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 31, 5:54 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Well, sure--that's just the sort of stuff these bikes were designed for! The railtrails in Wisconsin are great, aren't they? Had a blast riding them on the Saluki a couple of summers ago... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of EricP Sent: Thu 7/29/2010 8:53 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Hillborne out of town Took the wife and our bikes on a short trip this weekend. Went to Wisconsin to ride, eat, and relax. Had been on these trails a couple of months ago, but with a different bike. This time, took the Hillborne. After some misgivings, realized the bike could handle these trails just fine. About perfectly, in fact. The 40mm wide tires were wide enough for the gravel and less than optimum paving. And the high handlebars and comfy handling of the bike combined to make riding seriously fun. The only thing less than ideal was the weather, which was slightly on the hot and humid side. Although not as bad as feared. At least until Tuesday. A short jaunt on the trails that morning had me perspiring quite freely. Didn't see any fish mistaking the air for the water, but it was close. May be adding a few photos to this set in the near future. Had to get a roll of film developed. And, well, we'll see what develops. Otherwise, the set is here -http://tinyurl.com/2bdcrct BTW, finally have over 1,000 miles on the Hillborne. For some reason, it was the last of the three main bikes to do that this year. Will need to make up for that. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat 4KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos
It's useful for my particular setup to have the bottle mounts a bit lower. I ride a 54cm frame and use Polar water bottles which are a bit taller than standard, and I have a frame pump mounted under my top tube. If the bottle mounts are too high, the top of my bottle hits the frame pump...so maybe the lower mounts should be a size specific feature? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Rob Harrison Sent: Thu 7/29/2010 2:39 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: 60cm Maxway Hillborne Photos Agreed Peter, having the FD mount between the bosses does seem like a design flaw, on any size frame. I suppose you could use spacers to hop over the derailleur clamp. It'll be tough to reach down that far to grab the bottle while riding. Why not have it higher? Something I'm missing? Rob in Seattle On Jul 29, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Peter Pesce wrote: And, much to my chagrin, the water bottle bosses on the seat tube are mounted much lower- so low that the FD clamps between them. Kind of ridiculous for a 60cm frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan
Sure, should've flagged me down. I recall getting a bit nervous when a Riv fan in a car pulled up next to me shouting and gesturing at my Rambouillet until I figured out he was hollering nice bike, cool Riv! not Die, evil bike riding scum! Getting flagged by another rider is pleasant in comparison. B-) I've done some of that route on DALMAC--nice roads indeed... ...I'll be up that way again sometime not too far in the future, maybe not this year but soon--I really enjoyed my visit last month. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of JB Sent: Sat 7/24/2010 5:52 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan I was riding a Trek FX 7.3 that I've modified to ride like a Country Bike. I just started riding last year, didn't know what I know now, but, have learned what I should have gotten in the first place and have ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. Although I live a bit away from the Wheelway, I am in Petoskey a few times a week and ride the Wheelway often. I remember seeing your handlebar bags off in the distance and was on the look out to see if it was a Rivendell. Of course, it was your Saluki, which was my first Rivendell sighting. I remember being in a hurry and giving you my normal head nod that I give everyone. In hindsight, I should have stopped anyway. By the way, if you're in the area again and want a great ride, my favourite in the area is starting at East Park, just West of Petoskey on the the Wheelway, through Harbor Springs, then, riding by way of M-119, Lower Lake Drive, back on M-119 up to Good Hart and on to Cross Village. It's a little over 100 km round trip and takes you through the Tunnel of Trees with great views of Lake Michigan. There are many parking areas along the way if you want a shorter trip, and you could continue another 40 km to Mackinaw City. All in all a great day ride. John On Jul 24, 6:59 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: What were you riding? Did we exchange greetings? That bike path is really nice, the part from Charlevoix to Petosky in particular! I was staying in Charlevoix for a couple days and figured to ride it one day then do something more interesting, the next, but ended up riding it both days because it was such a pretty ride... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of JB Sent: Fri 7/23/2010 5:45 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan Yep! I saw your post after I posted. I noticed the bags from far away and thought it might be a Rivendell. It was the first one I've seen. John On Jul 23, 3:23 pm, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: That was probably me on the Wheelway--rode it a couple of times while I was in the area. Caramel paint, green bag(s)? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of JB Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:27 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan Won't be too long before they'll be another Northern MI Rivendell. I've got one on order and should have it in a month or so. Guess I'll have to get over to Frankfort and try the ride. I did see a Saluki about a month ago in Petoskey on the Wheelway. I was in a hurry and couldn't stop to talk, so, don't know if he was local or tourist. John On Jul 23, 11:53 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Wish I were there with you. Frankfort is a pretty place to ride. Perfect match for a Riv. On Jul 23, 10:46 am, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: to be very clear, the Riv in question is mine. I've never seen other one up here, not to say that there aren't any :-) Was setting out to ride around the lake yesterday. It is a popular ride, and there are more cyclists up here every year. Our cottage is on M-22, and there is a constant stream of cyclists all day. Some folks were walking down the road, when one stopped, made an immediate turn, and came over to me... that's a Rivendell jersey! etc. etc. etc. Then he had to admire Bleriot (in travel mode, rather than front/rear rack, hammered Honjo, generator-hub-wheel mode). Took awhile to escape from the driveway! Finished the ride a couple of hours later (was ambushed by many photogenic wildflowers and a tub of smoked whitefish spread from the original fishmonger in town). My SIL: that guy was really interested in your bike. Me: Yeah. It happens fairly often... Then she wanted to know what was so special about my bike :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan
What were you riding? Did we exchange greetings? That bike path is really nice, the part from Charlevoix to Petosky in particular! I was staying in Charlevoix for a coupla days and figured to ride it one day then do something more interesting, the next, but ended up riding it both days because it was such a pretty ride... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of JB Sent: Fri 7/23/2010 5:45 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan Yep! I saw your post after I posted. I noticed the bags from far away and thought it might be a Rivendell. It was the first one I've seen. John On Jul 23, 3:23 pm, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: That was probably me on the Wheelway--rode it a couple of times while I was in the area. Caramel paint, green bag(s)? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of JB Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:27 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan Won't be too long before they'll be another Northern MI Rivendell. I've got one on order and should have it in a month or so. Guess I'll have to get over to Frankfort and try the ride. I did see a Saluki about a month ago in Petoskey on the Wheelway. I was in a hurry and couldn't stop to talk, so, don't know if he was local or tourist. John On Jul 23, 11:53 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Wish I were there with you. Frankfort is a pretty place to ride. Perfect match for a Riv. On Jul 23, 10:46 am, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: to be very clear, the Riv in question is mine. I've never seen other one up here, not to say that there aren't any :-) Was setting out to ride around the lake yesterday. It is a popular ride, and there are more cyclists up here every year. Our cottage is on M-22, and there is a constant stream of cyclists all day. Some folks were walking down the road, when one stopped, made an immediate turn, and came over to me... that's a Rivendell jersey! etc. etc. etc. Then he had to admire Bleriot (in travel mode, rather than front/rear rack, hammered Honjo, generator-hub-wheel mode). Took awhile to escape from the driveway! Finished the ride a couple of hours later (was ambushed by many photogenic wildflowers and a tub of smoked whitefish spread from the original fishmonger in town). My SIL: that guy was really interested in your bike. Me: Yeah. It happens fairly often... Then she wanted to know what was so special about my bike :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan
Hey, I was just up in your neck of the woods with my Saluki (and 650b'd Curtlo mountain bike) a few weeks ago. What a beautiful area for biking. Have you done the path from Charlevoix to Petosky? I think I linked my pics from that trip to the list already but if not, they're here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/collections/72157624199439013/ I look forward to coming up that way again--maybe we can get a ride in? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Lynne Fitz Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:46 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan to be very clear, the Riv in question is mine. I've never seen other one up here, not to say that there aren't any :-) Was setting out to ride around the lake yesterday. It is a popular ride, and there are more cyclists up here every year. Our cottage is on M-22, and there is a constant stream of cyclists all day. Some folks were walking down the road, when one stopped, made an immediate turn, and came over to me... that's a Rivendell jersey! etc. etc. etc. Then he had to admire Bleriot (in travel mode, rather than front/rear rack, hammered Honjo, generator-hub-wheel mode). Took awhile to escape from the driveway! Finished the ride a couple of hours later (was ambushed by many photogenic wildflowers and a tub of smoked whitefish spread from the original fishmonger in town). My SIL: that guy was really interested in your bike. Me: Yeah. It happens fairly often... Then she wanted to know what was so special about my bike :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan
That was probably me on the Wheelway--rode it a couple of times while I was in the area. Caramel paint, green bag(s)? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of JB Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:27 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv encounter, Frankfort Michigan Won't be too long before they'll be another Northern MI Rivendell. I've got one on order and should have it in a month or so. Guess I'll have to get over to Frankfort and try the ride. I did see a Saluki about a month ago in Petoskey on the Wheelway. I was in a hurry and couldn't stop to talk, so, don't know if he was local or tourist. John On Jul 23, 11:53 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Wish I were there with you. Frankfort is a pretty place to ride. Perfect match for a Riv. On Jul 23, 10:46 am, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote: to be very clear, the Riv in question is mine. I've never seen other one up here, not to say that there aren't any :-) Was setting out to ride around the lake yesterday. It is a popular ride, and there are more cyclists up here every year. Our cottage is on M-22, and there is a constant stream of cyclists all day. Some folks were walking down the road, when one stopped, made an immediate turn, and came over to me... that's a Rivendell jersey! etc. etc. etc. Then he had to admire Bleriot (in travel mode, rather than front/rear rack, hammered Honjo, generator-hub-wheel mode). Took awhile to escape from the driveway! Finished the ride a couple of hours later (was ambushed by many photogenic wildflowers and a tub of smoked whitefish spread from the original fishmonger in town). My SIL: that guy was really interested in your bike. Me: Yeah. It happens fairly often... Then she wanted to know what was so special about my bike :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: dat funky Riv
Cool, glad that's all cleared up! I sure wouldn't relable it--it's original as it sits, right? I'd keep it that way...someday you'll be glad you did, I think. As will future scholars that will write papers and delve deep into the history of the finest bicycles made at the turn of the century. B-) Just sticking my nose and $.02 in. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Taylor Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:10 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: dat funky Riv The mystery has been solved, I am the new owner. It's a 1995 Prototype frame built by Waterford, this info was received from the original owner and confirmed, with some corrections, by GP and co. Should be labeled Protovelo and I'm currently working out the details with GP to have it correctly labeled as such. Expect an updated post with the completed build with two month's time, or so. On Jul 13, 10:23 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: The only way that all that effort would make any sense would be if you wanted to make more. Without seeing the paint in person, or at least in much better detail, it is hard to tell the quality. A reasonably competent photographer could make a rattle can job look pretty good. In my opinion, the color choices on the bike were not that good. Guess JB would ultmately do whatever the customer wants, but I imagine he would have warned someone the colors do not go together all that well. On Jul 13, 10:04 am, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree that if there were a forger that made fake Riv decals, then they'd go whole hog on the JB decals, but wouldn't the painting and the decal making be kind of a pain for one bike? If this is really a fake Rivendell, I would expect that there are more. The only way that all that effort would make any sense would be if you wanted to make more. Joe Subject: RE: [RBW] dat funky Riv Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:30:27 -0400 From: frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Re. the JB paint job, if it is indeed labled with fake Riv decals/headbadge, I doubt the forger would hesitate to put a fake JB signature on the chainstay as well... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant Petersen Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:20 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] dat funky Riv Well, now I know how Louis Vuitton feels (I've always been curious). I've been know to have brain farts (and grain farts), but I'm thinking what lugs are those? They aren't ours. We did use Henry James crowns for about 20 frames for a while there, till we got our own. The dropouts are raised in back but not in front, and that wasn't a WF style back then. The fork rake looks a bit better than the early WF-builts (nowhere close to post-'97). The seller may not know how to measure a chainstay, so I can't go by the 42cm listing (I think the shortest ever was 42.5). But mainly, the lugs. It seems odd to me. too, that JB would paint one that-a-way. Once somebody owns it, it's their deal, and we don't hold JB to any style (he knows what I like, but a guy's got a right to make a living). I called him now, line's busy, I'll try again. The serial number would tell the story. The seller de-listed it, I think. If it's a Riv underneath that pump instead of seat tube paint job, then fine etc., but at this point I'm still guessing it's not. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid...Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To
RE: [RBW] dat funky Riv
Re. the JB paint job, if it is indeed labled with fake Riv decals/headbadge, I doubt the forger would hesitate to put a fake JB signature on the chainstay as well... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant Petersen Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:20 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] dat funky Riv Well, now I know how Louis Vuitton feels (I've always been curious). I've been know to have brain farts (and grain farts), but I'm thinking what lugs are those? They aren't ours. We did use Henry James crowns for about 20 frames for a while there, till we got our own. The dropouts are raised in back but not in front, and that wasn't a WF style back then. The fork rake looks a bit better than the early WF-builts (nowhere close to post-'97). The seller may not know how to measure a chainstay, so I can't go by the 42cm listing (I think the shortest ever was 42.5). But mainly, the lugs. It seems odd to me. too, that JB would paint one that-a-way. Once somebody owns it, it's their deal, and we don't hold JB to any style (he knows what I like, but a guy's got a right to make a living). I called him now, line's busy, I'll try again. The serial number would tell the story. The seller de-listed it, I think. If it's a Riv underneath that pump instead of seat tube paint job, then fine etc., but at this point I'm still guessing it's not. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] dat funky Riv
It does seem like a lot of trouble. Maybe it was a test case and if it worked they were going to do a bunch of them? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Joe Bartoe Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:04 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] dat funky Riv I agree that if there were a forger that made fake Riv decals, then they'd go whole hog on the JB decals, but wouldn't the painting and the decal making be kind of a pain for one bike? If this is really a fake Rivendell, I would expect that there are more. The only way that all that effort would make any sense would be if you wanted to make more. Joe _ Subject: RE: [RBW] dat funky Riv Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:30:27 -0400 From: frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Re. the JB paint job, if it is indeed labled with fake Riv decals/headbadge, I doubt the forger would hesitate to put a fake JB signature on the chainstay as well... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant Petersen Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:20 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] dat funky Riv Well, now I know how Louis Vuitton feels (I've always been curious). I've been know to have brain farts (and grain farts), but I'm thinking what lugs are those? They aren't ours. We did use Henry James crowns for about 20 frames for a while there, till we got our own. The dropouts are raised in back but not in front, and that wasn't a WF style back then. The fork rake looks a bit better than the early WF-builts (nowhere close to post-'97). The seller may not know how to measure a chainstay, so I can't go by the 42cm listing (I think the shortest ever was 42.5). But mainly, the lugs. It seems odd to me. too, that JB would paint one that-a-way. Once somebody owns it, it's their deal, and we don't hold JB to any style (he knows what I like, but a guy's got a right to make a living). I called him now, line's busy, I'll try again. The serial number would tell the story. The seller de-listed it, I think. If it's a Riv underneath that pump instead of seat tube paint job, then fine etc., but at this point I'm still guessing it's not. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay
They almost look like Bridgestone lugs. I wonder if the head lugs were abbreviated because of the bike's small size? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Angus Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:33 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay I agree with Doug, those lugs looks very simple for an early Rivendell. IIRC the Road Standards had the Richard Sachs designed lugs other models hand different, simplier (but not his simple?) lugs. Angus On 11 July, 23:16, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Joe, I agree about the paint but I don't recall ever seeing any Riv with plain lugs. There are/were early ones around that don't have the first RBW crown, as the initial testing revealed a flaw and some frames went out with HJ crowns. Even the early Rivs had the Sachs designed lugs to the best of my knowledge. Most curious... Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: I hate to disagreewell, actually I kind of like to disagree. Anyway, if you look around, you'll find that there are plenty of early Rivs that have paint jobs that differ markedly from the current Riv aesthetic. I distinctly remember one that was sort of a limey green metallic with yell head tube and lugfill. And no, Joe Bell would never paint a non-Riv frame and then put Riv decals on it. Also, after the first paintjob, Grant/Riv no longer controls the paint job style choices so if it's a second paintjob, that would also explain the difference. I am a little confused by the poster not knowing the model, though. It would seem that any Riv owner would know that. Then again, an early Riv would likely not have had a model name as they started out kind of simply. It might have just been a road frame. Joe -- From: dvancl...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:20:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [RBW] Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I agree, very odd. Nothing about it says Rivendell except the decals, but JB wouldn't refinish a non-Riv with those decals would he? Doug On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:58 PM, trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.comwrote: Almost forgot http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw - Forwarded Message *From:* trevor segraves hoont...@yahoo.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM *Subject:* Odd small Riv on Ebay Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle bosses seam oddly placed. Any thoughts? Trevor- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] The Quickbeam is back?!
Plus, they're 650b-wheeled, which won't be an option on any of the Simpleones... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of William Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:14 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] The Quickbeam is back?! I was surprised to see the Quickbeam page back up on the Bicycle Models tab on the Riv-site. Turns out it's just a couple of 50cm complete bikes available. Still, pretty cool for those petite ones who don't want to wait for the SimpleOne. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: New Sam H Builder
That'd be the one I'd recommend--they're 45mm wide. I run a set on my Rambouillet over 30mm tires with room to spare... http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4480404286/sizes/l/in/set-72157623307633298/ Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Michael_S Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:32 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam H Builder Jim, which Cascadia fender do you recommend for 700x33-35 tires? the one labeled as Hybrid? And Peter... as a fellow Sam H owner... welcome to the club! I'm running 700x38 Marathon Racers which work great on my Sam. ~Mike- fenderless in Socal~ On Jul 8, 9:24 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Fenders become necessary when you least expect it - like the light rain last two mornings here in marine-layer inflicted July San Diego (while the rest of the country roasts). Put 'em on! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Jul 8, 7:56 am, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: That's what I like about this group. Any other place I'd be getting questions about my derailler set-up or how much my pedals weigh. Here - it's all about fenders! They are certainly on the list, though I'm going to get a roller bolted together as my first order of business. On Jul 8, 10:17 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The sidepull brakes, in your case, will not be a limiting factor for tire clearance. You should be able to do a 700x40 with a fender, and probably 700x45 without fenders. Personally, I think the Planet Bike Cascadia fenders are much nicer than the SKS fenders. On Jul 7, 1:51 pm, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All- My first post here. I just purchased one of the last Taiwan Sam frames to build up. It's a 60cm set up for sidepull brakes. Yes, I know, cantis are better in every possible way, but I actually like the classic look of sidepulls. I'm planning on Tektro 556 brakes, so hopefully I won't give up too much in clearances! It will be a more of a Sunday ride' bike for the time being, but I like that fact that a Sam can become anything I want down the road. I'm keeping it pretty classic and simple - Noodles, Brooks saddle, skinny 32mm Paselas (that will no doubt look lost in those brakes!) Seems like a fun group here. Looking forward to learning a lot. Cheers, Pete- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Bleriot Build is Coming Along
Scott, I've had good luck with Tange bbs in that spindle length: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=188_247_680products_id=602 Tange used to make square taper BBs in Japan for Shimano and now that Shimano has moved to other BB standards, Tange produces regular, BB's under their own name. Ben's is a good place to do business with, too... Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of S.Cutshall Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:49 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Bleriot Build is Coming Along ...slowly, but steadily. http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/4756379069/ And a few more new'ie pics added [near end of the Bleriot set]. First big problem though, daVinci crank + BB + Double Chainrings = 103 BB. Not the end of the world, but I was informed I couldn't go 'cheap' on the BB earlier today [was told Shimano goes only so narrow... 107, so it might have to be a Phil BB]. The budget is popping waaay out of the bag now. Anyone know of a BB in 103 that doesn't cost Phil-Money [daVinci crank is square taper, so no Campy]. -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
juarez wrote, in part: ...While I understand that a Riv owner might experience some consternation that their expensive bike might be mistaken for a less expensive older model, I don't think one can really fault a casual observer. After all, Rivendells do look like older bikes in many ways -- it's hard to deny that. Deny it? Heck, that's what I like about them! B-) Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah
I shouldn't think he was referring to the Bridgestone Atlantis--pretty sure it was a Japan/home only product. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of doug peterson Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:12 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Ride Report Cache Valley Utah So this guy may have been more savvy than I thought. Always kinda wondered about that 2. dougP On Jun 28, 1:44 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:29 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: A guys was checking out my Atlantis one day commented he hadn't seen an Atlantis in many years. His age suggested he'd been around bikes for a while. Perhaps Riv isn't the first one to use the name Atlantis? Or in the dim mists of time there was a manufacturer by that name? Most likely the guy was just assuming it was a nice old bike. It's sorta fun to tell people, yea, it's old; 7 years old this year. bridgestone made an atlantis.. That's why the riv atlantises are atlantis2. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Velcro-ripping sound coming from fender area
I'd hazard a guess that it's small pebbles/debris being carried up under your fender by your tire. I put fenders on a friend's Waterford for him some years ago and the first time it made that noise I was riding next to him and he fairly levitated off the bike with a very alarmed WHAT WAS THAT?!) holler. It was pretty funny... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Beth Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:34 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Velcro-ripping sound coming from fender area So everytime I ride (daily), inevitably at some point in my trip, I will hear a velcro-ripping sound that seems like it coming from under my SKS front fender. I always look to see if i just ran over something, a pile of leaves or whatever, but nada. Nothing seems to spit oout. Not that I would see it. My fenders are mounted close to the tire is it rubbing? Anybody else experience this phenomenon!? Can I make it go away?!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: FS - Rivendell Road and X0-1 frames
He's probably still wading through the 10,000 offers he got for it... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Joe Bernard Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:23 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: FS - Rivendell Road and X0-1 frames I'd still like to see the XO..you never know how things may work out when you're standing right in front of it. I've gotten no reponse from the seller. On Jun 23, 10:13 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in knowing more about the Road. Ryan On Jun 22, 11:38 pm, Roadkill markwood...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have two frames for sale: 1. a 1994 Waterford-Built 56 cm Rivendell Road frame, the light metallic blue. I'm the original owner. It's in near perfect condition, with just minor scuffs and chips, and has ridiculously few miles on it, as I have been raising kids, paying the mortgage, and mainly riding mountain bikes for the last 16 years... and I should be riding a 58 or 59 cm frame I bought it small and now want a larger frame. I paid $900 for it... I'd like to get $800 for the frame w/ Stronglight headset, Rivendell wheels (Mavic MA rims, Bullseye hubs, Sachs freewheel), Nitto seatpost, bars and Specialized stem. 2. a 1993 pumpkin-orange X0-1 frame, 53 cm (C-T).. also in excellent, very low mileage condition. It's currently built-up with drop bars, bar-end shifters, Salsa Stem, 26 wheels w/ 8-speed cassete, XT derailleurs, Specialized cranks (from my 1985 Team Stumpjumper, for which this frame was provided as a warranty replacement - it was not purchased as a complete X0-1), Dia Compe Canti's, etc it is an AWESOME mountain/road bike, super cool and super fun to ride, and I really don't want to sell it, but I need that new road frame. I'd like to get $500 for the whole build. I'm in the S.F. Bay Area (Fairfax)... if there is interest I will post photos (sorry, I'm really busy and haven't even taken any yet!) or email them directly thanks!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] do you ever get tired of....
Nope! Nor do I tire of folks trying to read the names on my Riv's downtubes--Rambouillet and Saluki. Even Heron seems to be Hear, as often as Hair. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Blindrobert Sent: Thu 6/17/2010 10:48 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] do you ever get tired of Your friends pronouncing your bike's maker as RivenDALE Even my cyclist friends do itI can only imagine that Grant and crew are driven to near madness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] rear der squeak?
Dry pulleys do this in my experience. Drip some lube around the dust seals--hopefully it'll penetrate. If not, remove them one at a time (so you can reassemble them correctly and put them back in the proper spot--they are different from each other) and apply light grease or oil... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of andrew hill Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:34 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] rear der squeak? anyone got a read on this? my Sam has started to squeak when pushing (thumbies) the rear der onto a smaller sprocket - i get one short bird noise when quickly shifting out. also, when on the smallest one, it's chirped regularly for 10-15 feet at a time a couple of times. sounds just like a bird with a two-note song. i kid you not. i *think* the rear der (shimano deore RR long) has started to talk, but i'm not sure where to lubricate it:) is this maybe one of the two pulleys? or should i monkey with the adjustment screws? thanks, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies
The way I recommend folks remember is that you turn the barrel in the direction that you're having trouble. If it won't shift up to larger cogs, turn the adjuster counterclockwise. (both to the left when looking from behind the bike) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of MichaelH Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:06 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: silver shiters and paul thumbies It never turns out to be that simple for me. I recently had to adjust the Shimano BE indexing on my new tandem. It would either not shift smoothly in the 1-2 position, or the 8-9 position. It took an hour and a half of fiddling to finally get everything right. One issue, for those of us who do this infrequently is that I'm never sure which direction - right or left - that the adjuster needs to be moved. I'm glad you have had a good experience with them, but I'm sure I'm not alone in finding them annoyingly finnicky. Michael On Jun 3, 7:14 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 17:25 -0700, Daniel M wrote: Indexing is great when perfectly adjusted; when it gets out of whack I can just go back to friction until I or a shop take the time to adjust it again Mostly all it takes to get indexing working perfectly again is 1/4 turn on the cable adjustment, hardly a time-consuming process, or one requiring a trip to the shop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] New tires at RBW
Well, that follows--Grant's stated that in support of the wheelsize he'll carry every 650b tire he can (that will fit Riv products presumably, since he does not carry the really fat knobbies). I have nearly 200 miles on a set of the PariMotos on my Saluki and they're pretty nice. Fast and supple, and so far no punctures (knock wood) They ride smoother at similar pressure than CLDV's but a tick less so than Trimlines. I've been abusing them as a test prior to commiting them to a multiday tour on mixed dirt and pavement of varying quality. I've ridden them on a lot of pavement, and quite a bit of dirt. Even (accidently) rode through a glitter of broken glass without trouble aside from the enamal I ground off my teeth waiting for the tire to hiss. Posted a few shots of them in action to my Flick'r--they work pretty well on singletrack! Fast and decent grip (for what they are) on hardpack, a bit slithery in sand. Note that going through a thin layer of sand over hardpack they make a sound very much like a tire hissing flat which was alarming! http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4653762582/ Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of J L Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 3:31 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] New tires at RBW When I was over at RBW headquarters this weekend I noticed a pair of Pacenti Pari-Moto 650b tires on a smaller sized Hilbourne. Word on the is that Riv plans to carry the Pari-motos and possibly the 35mm (listed as 38mm) Soma 650b tire. These are exciting prospects. -Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: any one using paul motolites on a bike with a nitto mini front rack?
I have a set of the latest generation Shimano LX V-brakes on my Kogswell P/R Kommuter and they work really well with the new Tektro V-brake dropbar levers. I had a set of Tektro V brakes and I couldn't get them to stay centered. But the LX ones are very decent quality, center easily and stay that way, and have a nice enough silver finish: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4414847894/sizes/l/in/set-72157621854804681/ Weren't awful money either as I recall... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 9:54 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: any one using paul motolites on a bike with a nitto mini front rack? If I were setting up my Sam Hill by myself, I too would have chosen V brakes -- Tektros -- for the hassle free factor; in fact I had a set of Tektros with drop V levers put away for such a build. The only reason I like these cantis -- and the only reason they work so well -- is that the bike came built by brake-competent people at Rivendell. But man! they are powerful! I wish the BB7 Road front disk on my 29er ss -- 180 mm rotor, organic pads, not bad -- was as powerful as this front Tektro canti. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Yeah, when it comes to brakes I know more expensive isn't always worth it. On my Trek hybrid (about which I have very little complaint, really) I've been satisfied with that $10 Tektro linear pull purchased specifically to address the interference issue. Tektro makes some low cost high value stuff, I think. I'm sure that I can resolve any interference issues by choosing canti brakes. But every time I see them, all I see are setup variables and pokey-outy issues. I know they aren't as complicated or use as they make me feel they would be. But for now I have no reason to move from linear pulls. Without evidence to the contrary, I'm basically postulating the motolites are top-tier linear pulls. And of course they look stunning. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Pari - motos reach the Heart of Dixie- 650B envy
I'm sure he asked the weinie if he could draft, right? And offered to pull through, right? Cause sitting on a stranger's wheel is just rude and dangerous...right? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Ablejack Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:52 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Pari - motos reach the Heart of Dixie- 650B envy My brother loves 'em. The all black Pari-motos. Two days only one flat! He says it's totally worth it. After 75 miles and fixin a flat he hopped onto the wheel of a spandexed weight weinie who tried desperately and fruitlessly to drop him along a bike path. Grag says it was effortless to roll along compared to his Schwalbes and speedplays (natch). Reminded him of his supple Gran Bois while inspiring more confidence. Did I mention, it is a simply gorgeous tire as well. On May 22, 12:09 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: all this 650B hype has got me planning. And I had just told my chief bicycle counter ( wife) that the '91 RB-1 project was last bike for a while. Now I'm shopping for a new bike. and that Nobilette demountable approach is nifty too, but pricey. I've been looking around at a few custom builders. Some offer that Ritchey break away system which seems really slick. I'm thinking that Travel bike strategy will work ~Mike~ On May 21, 10:00 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I keep eagerly checking the mailbox for mine. They are slated for the 650B conversion of my Davidson Signature. I very eager to try them out! On May 21, 7:47 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On May 21, 10:16 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested to see these pictures and hear about your ride. IIRC We have near identical Road standards (mind is a '96) and I sometimes consider a 650b conversion for rando purposes. I have some pics here - both of a riv road and pari-motos (though not on the same bike!). http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267...@n02/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Bleriot vs. Quickbeam efficiency
The Bleriot has slightly slacker angles than the QB--can you compare your saddle setback? It's amazing what a difference in perceived effort a cm or so of saddle setback can make...check it by dropping a plumb bob (I use a washer on a piece of cotton string) from the nose of your saddle past the bottom bracket and measuring from the string to the center of your crankarm bolt. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Tyler Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 6:13 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Bleriot vs. Quickbeam efficiency I've had my bleriot for 2 years and my quickbeam for 1 year. I bought the quickbeam to essentially be a simpler, single-speed version of my bleriot. Since then the quickbeam has become my preferred bike. I find that I'm (empirically) more efficient on my quickbeam and don't tire as easily. After a 50 mile ride on the bleriot I feel tired; after the same ride on the quickbeam I feel fine. I don't ride with a computer on either of my bikes, the only constant being my cycling partner. I find when I'm on my bleriot that I'm regularly slower than her but when I'm on my quickbeam I'm regularly faster. I'm at the point where I only ride the bleriot if there are going to be hills that I can't tackle on my quickbeam. Being slow doesn't bother me as much as the perceived difference in efficiency. The bleriot feels like it's dragging some extra weight regardless of the gear that I'm in while the quickbeam feels like it wants to keep rolling. If the bleriot felt similarly effortless I wouldn't be bothered if it was actually slower than the quickbeam. I wish that I had a way to definitively gauge this dragging feeling. The bikes are setup very similarly: Quickbeam: 60cm frame, 700 x 32 paselas, 32h stock wheels, sugino crank with 40/32 x 16/19 gearing, noodle bars, brooks saddle, MKS touring pedals without clips/straps Bleriot: 61cm frame, 650b x 42 grand bois hetres, 36h lesnik-built wheels, sugino crank with 48/38/26 x 11-30 gearing, noodle bars, brooks saddle, MKS grip king pedals Sometimes I wonder if the hetres are just slow but that seems to go counter to the ride reports of dozens of people who ride with hetres and claim they're quite fast. I thought about swapping to cypres tires (650b x 31) but that's a $120 investment I'm not ready to drop.. especially given that I've read you won't tell much of a difference between hetres and cypres on paved roads. The quickbeam is the first single speed bike that I've owned. Is it common to find that a single speed bike is noticeably more efficient for its 1 gear relative to a multi-speed bicycle in a gear of the same gain ratio ? Can any other quickbeam owners tell me about the perceived efficiency difference between their quickbeam and their geared road bike(s)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Bleriot vs. Quickbeam efficiency
Tyler wished: If panaracer made 650b x 32 paselas I'd buy a pair in an instant. Maybe I just need to take the plunge on a pair of cypres since they're probably the closest I'll find to paselas for 650b. Don't pull the trigger on those cypres's just yet, Tyler--there is a 650bX34mm Pasela-based tire coming from Soma very soon...look here for a preview: http://reneherse.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-650b-tire-from-soma-first.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
Bear in mind too that Noodles have a longish reach if you set them up flat-ramped. So a stem that's a cm or two shorter than one might expect to run for a given frame size isn't that uncommon... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:06 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen That's why I have 8 cm stems on my AHH and my Bombadil. If I wanted to run longer stems, I'd definitely need smaller frames. The issue would then be how much vertical stem and seatpost get exposed to get the proper heights and relationships. I could place the handlebar below the saddle... Oh wait! That's how I rode pre-Rivendell and I had the hand, neck and shoulder pain... I think I'm happy with my short 8 cm stems... ;-) René On 5/18/10, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: This is an interesting conversation. Every time I think about getting an even bigger frame, end up thinking more about reach more than standover. Based on these statements, I should be trying a 63cm frame. Yet about a year and a half ago straddled a 62 orange Quickbeam. The reach was so far my arms were fully extended on the hoods. Couldn't really even get to the drops. Maybe that bike had an unusually long stem. But to get that bike to work for me, would probably need a 7 or 8cm stem. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 18, 7:10�pm, jamison brosseau jamison.bross...@gmail.com wrote: its funny cause the atlantis was the first riv bike i was interested in. �i plan on getting another next year, but am afraid the 61 would be too small. �when i was concerned about the 61 vs 63 Keven suggested i just ride the 63 for a while and see what i thought. �I couldn't be happier. �Out of curiosity how tall are you. �I am 6 ft even. thanks jamison On May 18, 7:40�pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: My saddle height on both bikes is set at 76.5cm; with your saddle height I do agree that standover with the 60 Bombadil should not be an issue. I haven't hurt myself, but I always get very conscious of the top tube height when straddling the bike, especially if wearing sandals... :-) I don't quite feel atracted to the Hunqa... can't really say why... if I ended up swapping frames, I think I'd be more comfortable with the Atlantis. It's a bike that is somehow growing on me after my intial reaction of rejection during my pre-Riv days... :-) I do love my Bombadil, in the end, perhaps I'll just keep it and just ride it with up to 700x50 tires to keep the standover height manageable. Ren� -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Saluki
terryg wrote: and welcome to 650B! Beware there may be a slippery slope ahead Indeed. My Saluki was my first 650b bike and I now have 5. (Equally the fault of K.Pacenti, for bringing the wheelsize to mountain biking) Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bombadill fork crown braze ons?
I see some (not all) Bomba's have braze ons on the top of their fork crown like last gen Kogswell P/R's. Is Riv offering a rack that mounts there I wonder? Was this a running change or can you specify when ordering? You can see them on this Bomba that's on ebay (outing-not affiliated, etc) and on some of the 'dills in the Riv pics. (but not all!) http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Bombadil-Touring-Mountain-650B-Frame-/200473386188?cmd=ViewItempt=Road_Bikeshash=item2ead251ccc Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: bar ends for woodies?
Ritchey makes a bar end for bars with more sweep--the clamps are angled so that they don't stick outward. I had a set on some 17-degree sweep bars I used to run and they worked pretty well. I don't know how much sweep the Bull Moose bars have but from pics it looks like at least that much. They are just basic black barends so no aesthetic match for your woodies. I suppose you could cover them in leather or something... They're not Riv-ish but I have a spare set--contact me off list if you'd like to try them. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of andrew hill Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:07 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: bar ends for woodies? yeah, you are right - M-bars would provide more positions, but i didn't fall in love with them on an XO-1 i had.. and i get at least 2 positions from the bull moose.. but just not a bar-endy one. the mtn-bike bar ends are what i mean - or even the little stubby ovals that bolt on perpendicular, although with the swept back angle either of those might not really work - not sure. best, andrew On May 16, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Johnny Alien wrote: I think he means mountain bike style bar ends like these: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31uaJgWGd1L._SL500_AA300_.jpg THe answer is to get a set of Mustache bars and sell me that Bullmoose set. :) Seriously though I think the Mustache bars will provide more positions and you can still use the wood grips. On May 15, 2:18 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: A natural cork might do the job, or a rubber Velox plug. On May 14, 9:04 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: i've got a Sam with emwoodied bullmoose bars.. thinking some bar-ends might make sense for an upcoming century. it's a mostly flat one, but just for the hand position variation... but i don't want to totally destroy the old-skool woody look.. so anyone know of bar ends that are wooden? :) or maybe can suggest something that would aesthetically work well to add a hand position or two, and replace that aged-copper colored plug/cap that come with the woodies? cheers, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Blindrobert wrote, in part: ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle
Well, I'm a bit confused--White Industries makes a double freewheel the Dos Eno and Surly makes a double fixed gear cog called the dingle. Tarik, are you looking for a coastie or a fixie? I'm using a Dos Eno freewheel on the Quickbeam and it's a keeper, but I have a Surly dingle fixed cog I'd part with. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Steve Palincsar Sent: Mon 5/17/2010 7:08 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: a White industry dingle On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:58 -0700, MichaelH wrote: OK Tarik, I'll bite, whats a Dingle cog? http://surlybikes.com/parts/dingle_cog/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Hi y'all--Kirk sent an update about the PariMoto to the 650b list last week and I asked him about how he envisioned this tire being used. Based on his response, I'm more excited than ever about these tires! Well, here's my question and his answer: I asked: There's some discussion/speculation about the intent of this tire on the RBW googlelist. Can you weigh in briefly on the appropriateness of this new tire for, say mixed surface riding, multiday supported or unsupported touring and so on? I personally am planning to do some touring (supported or credit card) on my Saluki in a few weeks and I'd be interested in whether your new tire would be a good choice for a ride that will include packed dirt railtrails and pavement of various quality, or if I should stick with the Trimlines for the time being. If you wish to offer some thought in the thread on that list but don't care to subscribe, post a response here and I'd be happy to summarize there if you like. Kirk replied: The tire will be appropriate for all the riding you have described. The tires were intended to strike the balance between a Trimline and a race tire. It's not going to have the same puncture resistance as a heavier tire, but should not be an issue for your needs. I see now that the word event is causing some confusion. The tire is going to be a great all-rounder and will not be useful just on sunny days or competition. Best regards, Kirk Pacenti Pacenti Cycle Design www.bikelugs.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. winmail.dat
RE: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
I did a bit of googling and came across a thread on the Serotta list that might offer some insight on the PariMoto. Excerpt: ...the Pair-Motto will have a nice file tread, will be lighter than the Col DO or Orson, but should be just as durable as a similar treaded 700c version which millions of people ride everyday and think nothing of it... The Pair-Motto would make a much better event tire than the Col DO or Orson, but it was intended to be used as a great all around road tire. Link: http://forums.serotta.com/showthread.php?t=62641 It sounds like a tire I would use on dirt roads/railtrails and pavement of variable quality. Maybe not on trails but I have committed trail bikes with knobbies for that. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: 650B dead or alive?
What does industrial mayonaise taste like? It's not for eating--tho it does a great job of filling cuts in tire casings... Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Bleriot/Hetres
SKS fenders=P50s? I like them with 650b tires/wheels. They fit over the Hetres on my Quickbeam fine... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Joan Oppel Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:27 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Bleriot/Hetres I have Hetres and SKS fenders on my Bleriot - no problem. I have Velocity rims, and the Hetres measure (unscientifically with a metric tape measure, not calipers) 40/41mm on them. Joan May 14, 2010 10:37:25 AM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Does anyone know if the Bleriot will comfortably fit Hetres with fenders? The geometry chart says max tire is 41mm (Hetres are a true 42mm, I believe), but I've seen a few pictures on Flickr of a Bleriot with hetres and Honjos, and it doesn't look TOO tight. Any experience out there? -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Installing Fenders Question
Cork's good if you need a biggish spacer. I have used a stack of 4-5 presta valve nuts in smaller gaps, too... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Johnny Alien Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:27 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Installing Fenders Question Ahhh yes the cork. I HAVE seen taht done before. That is a great idea guys, thanks! On May 12, 8:11 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Best solution is to take the cork from a bottle of wine and trim it so it gives you the proper spacing. Then just drill it so you can use a screw/nut of the proper length. On the SKS fenders, you may have to remove the metal tongue that is meant to hook over the tube between the stays and avoid using a screw if my memory serves me well... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Pari-Moto mini review
Thanks, James! (nice bike, BTW) I'll be VERY interested in puncture/durability reports as I have a multiday supported tour coming up and I'm trying to decide whether to use the Saluki's current Trimlines or my hopefully soon to arrive PariMotos... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of James Valiensi Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:47 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Pari-Moto mini review Hi, I just got my Pari-Moto's, all black. I mounted them and posted my impressions on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/72157623925398641/ Cheers! James Valiensi Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
They're meant to be what Hetres were originally supposed to be--a 38mm slick. The hetres turned out to be a bit fatter than that and don't fit as many bikes as a 38 should. I have Hetres on my Quickbeam but the PariMoto's will be a better option for my Saluki! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of rinjin Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:47 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? I think it's great that Pacenti is getting new tires made (see the recent discussion about 650B tire choices and the apocalypse), but I'm still a little unclear on how the new Pari Motos are different from (or superior to) the Hetres. A little skinnier and a little slicker? I have to say the Hetres are hard to beat. Plush, light, durable, attractive, easy to mount. Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe I will stockpile a few. Curious to hear from folks who've ridden them both. Brian On May 12, 7:58 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 11, 9:32 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: They are called event tires as in, you would race with them. I suppose that means roofing tacks should be avoided the durability of this tire will be the deal-breaker for me. i understand folks wanting a tire just a bit smaller than the hetre to make things work better on particular frames. but a 38mm tire begs to be ridden off-road, wherever that might take you. so far, the hetre is more than up to task on this front. if the pari-moto is too fragile for some rough stuff, my pre-order will be my last. personally, i was hoping for a tire like this in the 33-35 range. maybe grand bois will fill that void. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] 650B Quickbeam? (was: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?)
I almost missed it myself! The last (silver) run of QB's had two smaller sizes than previous runs, a 50cm and 52cm. They featured 650b wheels and Silver sidepulls rather than 700c and cantis. I posted to the 650b list that I wanted suggestions for a 650b fixed gear like a Quickbeam, and a helpful fellow (Ron Lau, I think) gently pointed out that there was just such a thing--a 650b Quickbeam. I ordered the very last 52cm they had the next day! I usually ride a 54cm but it was easy to adopt a 52cm QB to fit me--didn't even need full quill extension of a Tech. Deluxe stem...I can't even use Tech Deluxes on some of my 54cm Rivs--can't get the bars low enough with them! As far as I can tell/recall, the geometry is the same as other QB's-just scaled down a bit for the two smaller sizes and smaller wheels. I've shared them before but here's some pics of it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/4317180490/in/set-72157623307633298/ Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Philip Williamson Sent: Thu 5/13/2010 2:16 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] 650B Quickbeam? (was: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?) You have a 650B Quickbeam? How did I miss that? What's the scoop on that - braking, BB height, handling, etc? Philip McMinnville, Ore. (700C QB) On May 13, 10:54 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: They're meant to be what Hetres were originally supposed to be--a 38mm slick. The hetres turned out to be a bit fatter than that and don't fit as many bikes as a 38 should. I have Hetres on my Quickbeam but the PariMoto's will be a better option for my Saluki! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of rinjin Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:47 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? I think it's great that Pacenti is getting new tires made (see the recent discussion about 650B tire choices and the apocalypse), but I'm still a little unclear on how the new Pari Motos are different from (or superior to) the Hetres. A little skinnier and a little slicker? I have to say the Hetres are hard to beat. Plush, light, durable, attractive, easy to mount. Hmmm, come to think of it, maybe I will stockpile a few. Curious to hear from folks who've ridden them both. Brian On May 12, 7:58 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 11, 9:32 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: They are called event tires as in, you would race with them. I suppose that means roofing tacks should be avoided the durability of this tire will be the deal-breaker for me. i understand folks wanting a tire just a bit smaller than the hetre to make things work better on particular frames. but a 38mm tire begs to be ridden off-road, wherever that might take you. so far, the hetre is more than up to task on this front. if the pari-moto is too fragile for some rough stuff, my pre-order will be my last. personally, i was hoping for a tire like this in the 33-35 range. maybe grand bois will fill that void. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com
RE: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Bear in mind that last summer he was taking PRE-orders to have these tires made. He made no secret that there would be a considerable delay in shipping. It's actually only a month or two later than his estimate which I don't think's bad for a from drawing board to the street product. I'm looking forward to getting mine, too! Saluki needs a new pair of shoes... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:18 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? If the pair I purchased last July (the pre-order thing) will ever show up, they'll go on my Riv Road 650B conversion and I'll tell you how they ride. Hmm, order from Bikelugs in July, they ship following the May. What other bike company does that remind me of? hmmm :) _ From: Liesl lchat...@smm.org To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:40:33 PM Subject: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? Anyone out there tried 'em? http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Riv frames work great with drop bars
Hi Grant--thanks for jumping in. I can confirm your statements--I have three Rivs, a Heron road, a Rambouillet and a Saluki and the seat tube angles and top tube lengths vary but they all fit the same (very well) with drops. Same bars (Noodles) and the stem extensions are within a cm of each other... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Grant Petersen Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:54 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv frames work great with drop bars It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso. The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, it's like this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations: Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes. Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs in that cat. As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes them longer (effectively, not literally). Tall quill stems always help, but with our bikes--as much as I likem we gottem, they're less necessary than they are with a '73 Colnago, or '84 Centurion Ironman, etc. I cannot image more drop-bar friendly bikes than ours. I wouldn't design a bike that wouldn't work fine with a drop. With appropriate-sized stems for the size. Granted, my personal Sam is a 60 with a 7stem, and that's borderline funky, but that's on a 62.5 top tube, and I'm a mere 5-9.9. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
jinxed wrote, in part: I ended up using an 80 dirt drop stem. It pulled the bar back enough, but was pretty high. I would like it a couple cm lower, but it was as far down as it would go. I need to order up a 60 deluxe when funds allow. FWIW, the Dirt Drop is also available in a short quill version. Ben's carries it: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=1488 Might let you lower your bars a bit but keep that winning Dirt Drop aesthetic! I have one on my XO-1 and it's good--you can see it here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40738...@n08/3764071280/ Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
The Saluki was introduced in late 2003 or early 2004. They were produced by Toyo in Japan, same as the Rambouillet, and the first batch was offered in either green or silver. Custom paint options were offered through a painter local to Rivendell for an upcharge, which accounts for most of the other colors you see. the Caramel was a custom color I asked for and Grant created for my Saluki from the first batch, and which he liked well enough to make it the stock option for future frame runs. (I asked for a Harvest Gold, like some Riv customs but a richer tone with more brown) As far as I know, the Saluki was the first production 650b-wheeled frame offered in the U.S. since a few mountain bikes from Raleigh and Schwinn in the 80's. They were initially offered with either NOS (reintroduced?) DiaCompe centerpull brakes or cantis, and when the Tektro super-long reach sidepulls were introduced, Grant designed a frame to go with them and fitted the smaller frames with 650b, the larger with 700c. Saluki production was rolled into this new frame. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rob Harrison Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
I misspoke(typed) the dates--late '04-early -05 is correct. (I got mine in March or April of 2005) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Frederick, Steve Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance The Saluki was introduced in late 2003 or early 2004. They were produced by Toyo in Japan, same as the Rambouillet, and the first batch was offered in either green or silver. Custom paint options were offered through a painter local to Rivendell for an upcharge, which accounts for most of the other colors you see. the Caramel was a custom color I asked for and Grant created for my Saluki from the first batch, and which he liked well enough to make it the stock option for future frame runs. (I asked for a Harvest Gold, like some Riv customs but a richer tone with more brown) As far as I know, the Saluki was the first production 650b-wheeled frame offered in the U.S. since a few mountain bikes from Raleigh and Schwinn in the 80's. They were initially offered with either NOS (reintroduced?) DiaCompe centerpull brakes or cantis, and when the Tektro super-long reach sidepulls were introduced, Grant designed a frame to go with them and fitted the smaller frames with 650b, the larger with 700c. Saluki production was rolled into this new frame. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rob Harrison Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
Fastest season I ever had was the year I spent a few weeks early in the summer helping a buddy roof his house. Full tear off and re-decking, too. That's a core building workout right there! If you want to be faster on the bike, roof a house Steve Frederick, East Lansing MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant
I agree with you, Eric--it'd be interesting to see it sold as is but Grant gets to decide how to proceed...and it might be even more interesting to see how it is transformed! Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of EricP Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:34 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: unclaimed custom/Grant I'll be contrarian. It's Rivendell's call, and if they feel the need to re-do the bike before selling it, then they should. While from the photo, the bike looks nice, if Grant is not comfortable selling it like that, he shouldn't be pressured into doing so. In 20 years, is someone going to look at that bike and see hey, a cool concept from Rivendell or what was Grant thinking? Sort of reminds me of the Leica M5. Yes, a way to put a meter in a Leica M model. But the end result looked like something that wasn't typical Leica. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 23, 11:03�am, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, it seems a shame to go to all that work and lose money when there seems to be interest in it as is. On Apr 23, 7:00�am, bdavis999 braden_da...@hotmail.com wrote: Grant, Can I offer an idea here. �For many companies, part of the mystique and elements that build the long-termcult appeal are these very rare white elephant or skunk-works products. An example would be Fat City Tandems, or the Ibis Scorcher. �Soemtimes these items are strokes of genius, but sometimes they are random accidents. I imagine this bike, if left as-is would develop a lore of it's own. The one odd-ball, that passes through collections, hoepfully gets ridden hard, and maybe ends up in one of the bike museums. I remember form one of your first Readers a piece talking about how you imagined 100 years in the future that someone would dig out a rough frame from the scrap heap, and would be able to tell by the lugs and design that it was a Rivendell (my memory isn't so strong, but I think that's how it went). Somehow this bike, while not being pure to your vision, would be one of these frames that bike scholar's argue about, and bike geeks stay up all night chatting about when and where they first heard about it. Just looking at the enthusiasm this one-off has cused on this board would be an indication of how this bike is already a cult object, and your fans are afraid that this one white elephant would be stripped of its tusks... Plkeas, take a bit of time to reflect. �Maybe this is an opportunity to think about where in the life of Rivendell you need or want to inject these rare and truly unique gems (or aberations) into your legacy. Thanks! Braden On Apr 23, 1:22�am, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: The bike is beautiful, yes, but for a complication of reasons, not all of which are rational, it will be transformed, plained-down, de-'caled, and repainted. Canti-bosses will be added to the seat stays, and it'll be made rackable, and 'enderable---so it will be way more go, tho' some less show. It may *seem* a shame, but it's not. It will be a *happy* transformation. If we put a dollar value on the time spent on this bike, it would be the most expensive bike we've ever done. More than 40 hours of consultation over two years. It's OK, part of the deal, but after all that, catharsis is the only option. This showgirl's going to get a good scrub-down and work on the farm, and in my estimation, will be more beautiful for it. My only regret, and it's not a small one, is that Joe Bell's labor will be undone. All...$900 or so of it. We've been good customers to JB over the years and ask his understanding this one rare time, and your's, too. Grant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group
RE: [RBW] STI 10 speed with 24-34 as low
Nice bike! I ran that rust tape on my same color Heron for a while--it's a good look. Running tan now to match the Banana bag... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of James Warren Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:51 PM To: RBW list Subject: [RBW] STI 10 speed with 24-34 as low http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4551628878/in/set-72157623929181002/ Hard to set up, especially since I used the Mavic crank, but it almost gets every gear I want. Anyway, I'm happy to add this Heron road photo, since we don't see enough of that model. I want to thank Todd Kuzma for being really helpful to me when he sold the frame to me in late 2007. I've been using the bike in various shifting modes (road thumbies for example) for a about a year and a half, and in mid-09, Nashbar was closing out their Ultegra 10 speed triple brifters for $140, so I couldn't resist. To get an extreme gear on the low end and not rub the chain on the high end, I sometimes have to turn the downtube barrel adjuster while riding. It actually kind of addresses the problem. It's like having some trim on your trim-lacking Shimano front brifters. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
Here's the inspiration for that color, for what it's worth...at least, the inspiration for me to ask Grant to come up with the color when I ordered my Saluki from the first batch...my good friend Grub! http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376997200_226832d7ab.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/32586...@n03/4376997200/sizes/m/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/32586...@n03/4376997200/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/32586...@n03/4376997200/ Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:41 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki! That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color! On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: How do you like the SRAM levers? On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54 mukum...@gmail.com wrote: My Saluki arrive from Rivendell. I bought one of the frame specials. Pics at : http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129 Boy it is a comfortable ride... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
Good point! I don't think abandoned kitten found on a country road, would fit on a headbadge anyway... -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:15 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki! cat-dog collabo! On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Here's the inspiration for that color, for what it's worth...at least, the inspiration for me to ask Grant to come up with the color when I ordered my Saluki from the first batch...my good friend Grub! http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4376997200_226832d7ab.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/32586...@n03/4376997200/sizes/m/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/32586...@n03/4376997200/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/32586...@n03/4376997200/ Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:41 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Got my Saluki! That butterscotch Saluki is my favorite color! On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: How do you like the SRAM levers? On Apr 26, 1:10 am, Calm54 mukum...@gmail.com wrote: My Saluki arrive from Rivendell. I bought one of the frame specials. Pics at : http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129 Boy it is a comfortable ride... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
And to supplement your answer, my understanding is the silver batch was the final Panasonic produced run... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Angus Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 6:29 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much To answer Shaun's completely off-the-topic question: The Green and Orange Quickbeams were made by National (aka Panasonic). I'm not certain about the silver ones. When I had to fix a flat on my orange Quickbeam, I noticed it had a Panasonic rim strip, a Panasonic tube, and of course a Panaracer tire. Angus On Apr 22, 7:15 pm, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:01 PM, swenindy brynnarswen...@gmail.com wrote: snip Nevertheless, I had an awesome 25 miler on my Quickbeam (green, first year Toyo build) today that seems to be set up perfect. snip swen This is completely off-the-topic of the thread but it has me wondering. Is this accurate? It was my understanding that the first-year, green QB's (and the subsequent orange and silver ones) were built by Panasonic. No biggie. Just curious. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
CycloFiend wrote: ...as I used to tire, my torso would start to hang slightly from my shoulder joints. It's a bit tricky to explain rather than show, but you can often notice as your shoulders move up towards your ears. Yeah, I call this turtling, when your shoulders hunch up around your ears and your neck disappears down into your chest, sometimes with your head hanging, too. Like a turtle pulling back into his shell. I try to avoid doing this by focussing on keeping my back straight(ish) and my head up...the old try to touch the top tube with your belly button, exercise works for me. Most of my lower back problems were solved by moving my saddle a bit forward and my bars down a little, FWIW. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
