Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/6/2020 5:46 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/6/20 1:25 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder. The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get placed. That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway. The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder. You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders. I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default location. Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated. I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you referred to in your message. I did find the Local Folder that is located in my Profile. Here is what it presently looks like: This PC > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net Name Date modified Type Size Trash.msf 6/5/2020 3:23 PM MSF File 279 KB Trash 6/5/2020 3:20 PM File 24,174 KB Templates.msf 6/1/2020 7:27 PM MSF File 2 KB Templates 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB Sent.mst 6/5/2020 5:11 PM MSF File 3 KB Sent 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB popstate.dat 6/5/2020 2:31 PM DAT File 1 KB msgfilterRules.dat 7/18/2010 6:16 PM DAT File 1 KB Junk.msf 3/28/2007 10:30 AM MSF File 2 KB Inbox.msf 6/5/2020 6:34 P.M MSF File 357 KB Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst 6/5/2020 11:41 AM MSF File 54 KB Inbox – Shortcut 6/9/2012 1:21 AM Shortcut 1 KB Inbox 6/5/2020 3:32 PM File 33,813 Drafts.msf 6/1/2020 8:52 PM MSF File 3 KB Drafts 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB It appears to me that everything is going into this display except Sent messages. Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a look at the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found. Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot - "Sent" Folder on Local Folders No Dot - Other Folder Not Selected Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being replied to Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses Blank Message Archives Checked - Keep Messages archived in: Active options... Dot - "Archives" Folder on Local Folders No Dot - Other Folder: Blank Drafts and Templates Keep draft messages in Dot "Drafts" Folder on: Blank No Dot Other Folder Blank Keep Message Templates in: Dot "Templates" folder on: Blank No Dot other Folder Blank Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved I hope the above information displays properly. I do not see what changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my my profile. Help Frog Is this an email account? Change the account settings to: Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot - "Sent" Folder on "the account and forget about Local folders" Walt448 You made an old man very happy today. I did as you suggested, and it worked perfectly. Thank you very much for finding the solution for my problem. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/5/2020 2:28 PM, EE wrote: Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file might reveal, and this is what I found: Name Date modified Type Size Sent 6/4/2020 7:23 File 2,605,188 ... Sent.mst 6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File 2 KB I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf). I then visited the the OLD Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst). Well, all seemed to be going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I attempted to send my test message: Save Message Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder (Sent) due to network or file access errors. You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local Folders. Retry Save Don't Save My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the above window. My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to see my saved message...I could not find my message. All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my actions. I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I sent a message. I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely to its limits) and could not hold another message. I also am not able to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload that exists. I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" and "Sent.msf folder". I cannot figure out how to change the new folders to look like the old original folders. Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage of my sent messages on my system. I can delete the new Sent and Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to Sent and Sent.msf. Frog P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this thread. Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time of trying to make my computer work. Maybe if you had done things the other way around, it would have worked. Instead of renaming the Sent folder, create a new folder called Sent-old and transfer the messages from Sent to that. If you use the File button, it is very easy to transfer messages from one folder to another. Thanks for your response. I have deleted the new Sent and Sent.msg folders. I then renamed the OLD_Sent folder to Sent and the OLD_Sent.msg folder to Sent.msg. I am now back to where I was originally. I still cannot make outgoing messages flow into the Sent folder. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/5/2020 4:19 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote: On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder and not the Local Folders > Sent folder. The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get placed. That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway. The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder. You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to "Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders. I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default location. Thanks for your response to my message...very much appreciated. I was up until after 1AM trying to track down the information you referred to in your message. I did find the Local Folder that is located in my Profile. Here is what it presently looks like: This PC > Data (E) > SeaMonkeyProfile > Mail > incoming.verizon.net NameDate modified Type Size Trash.msf 6/5/2020 3:23 PMMSF File 279 KB Trash 6/5/2020 3:20 PMFile 24,174 KB Templates.msf 6/1/2020 7:27 PMMSF File 2 KB Templates 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB Sent.mst6/5/2020 5:11 PMMSF File 3 KB Sent9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB popstate.dat6/5/2020 2:31 PMDAT File 1 KB msgfilterRules.dat7/18/2010 6:16 PM DAT File 1 KB Junk.msf3/28/2007 10:30 AM MSF File 2 KB Inbox.msf 6/5/2020 6:34 P.M MSF File 357 KB Inbox – Shortcut.lnk.mst 6/5/2020 11:41 AM MSF File 54 KB Inbox – Shortcut 6/9/2012 1:21 AM Shortcut 1 KB Inbox 6/5/2020 3:32 PMFile 33,813 Drafts.msf 6/1/2020 8:52 PMMSF File 3 KB Drafts 9/14/2006 9:37 PM File 0 KB It appears to me that everything is going into this display except Sent messages. Thus, I continued my Profile search made...having a look at the Copies & Folder settings...here is what I found. Copies & Folders When sending messages: Checked - automatically place a copy in Dot- "Sent" Folder onLocal Folders No Dot - Other Folder Not Selected Not Checked - Place replies in the folder of the message being replied to Not Checked - Cc these email addresses Blank Not Checked - Bcc these email addressses Blank Message Archives Checked - Keep Messages archived in:Active options... Dot - "Archives" Folder onLocal Folders No Dot - Other Folder:Blank Drafts and Templates Keep draft messages in Dot "Drafts" Folder on: Blank No DotOther Folder Blank Keep Message Templates in: Dot "Templates" folder on: Blank No Dotother Folder Blank Not Checked Show confirmation dialog when messages are saved I hope the above information displays properly. I do not see what changes I have to make in order to get my sent messaged headed for my my profile. Help Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file might reveal, and this is what I found: NameDate modified TypeSize Sent6/4/2020 7:23 File2,605,188 ... Sent.mst6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File2 KB I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf). I then visited the the OLD Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst). Well, all seemed to be going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I attempted to send my test message: Save Message Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder (Sent) due to network or file access errors. You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local Folders. Retry SaveDon't Save My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the above window. My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to see my saved message...I could not find my message. All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my actions. I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I sent a message. I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely to its limits) and could not hold another message. I also am not able to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload that exists. I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" and "Sent.msf folder". I cannot figure out how to change the new folders to look like the old original folders. Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage of my sent messages on my system. I can delete the new Sent and Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to Sent and Sent.msf. Frog P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this thread. Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time of trying to make my computer work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.
On 6/1/2020 2:55 PM, EE wrote: Frog wrote: Before I start, I am about to say many things in this message that have already been the subjects of some of my earlier messages. Quickly stated...I am not making any progress in finding a solution for my SeaMonkey problems. I really am having great difficulty making SeaMonkey work on my computer. I am not able to open any messages on the m.general or the news.mozilla.com news groups. Also, my responses to Inbox messages are not being stored in my Sent folder (I don't know if they are being recorded anywhere on my computer--simply put, they are lost). My SeaMonkey folders are stored on my E drive: (SeaM_AboutConfig...SeaMonkeyAddNk...SeaMonkeyProfile). I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that SeaMonkey has crashed. I have tried to chase down what might be causing this endless string of problems without much success. Let me say, however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a 32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and all is working properly with this software. Also, I am using Windows 10 for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any problems being found. With all of the above said, here is where I need your help. I have in my mind that I must remove/reinstall SeaMonkey on my computer. I have copied the three folders listed above in this message to a different location on my computer...hopefully I will be able to fix any problems that occur as a result of redoing my SeaMonkey software. Am I correct? The drive that the backups are recorded in is on the same drive (E) where they were originally recorded...in a folder named Backup_Seamonkey. This should keep this data secure...correct? I'm not sure which SeaMonkey software should be reinstalled on my computer-32 or 64 bit...it seems like it should be the 64 bit version. Is this a good guess? Would it be a better choice to give up on SeaMonkey and turn to Firefox/Thunderbird for my internet work? This action would also involve training another person on how to use the new software. What other problems should I consider before I goof up my computer and not be able to communicate with anybody for help? Frog If you have Thunderbird working, you could use its settings as a reference to work out what is wrong with the SeaMonkey settings. They both use the same settings for newsgroups and email. I have checked the settings, one agenst the other, and the settings are the same as far as I can see. I have made copies of both settings and compared one against the other and that did not show any differences. Thanks for you help. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
On 6/3/2020 10:48 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Frog wrote: Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog Why are you opening new threads? You asked me a question, and I will reply to that question. Yes, I have sent several connected threads over the past several days-weeks. This response is not to show disrespect for the help I have received from this newsgroup in past years…it has truly been professional in all respects; and I appreciate what individuals willingly give of their time to assist me and others, when they don’t know the answer to a SeaMonkey problem. I am in no way an expert at the technical aspects of a computer…in fact, I recently replaced my old flip phone for a new Jitterbug smart phone…and even that is currently a challenge for my lacking technical skills. Well, back to “Why are you opening new threads? My recent threads do deal with one software program…SeaMonkey. I presently do not know, after my many recent threads, why…I can see newsgroup subjects, but I cannot open them in SeaMonkey, and I do not know why my non-newsgroup messages are not being recorded in my Sent folder. I decided, since I have not gotten a solution for my problems, I would start attempting to take them one at a time. Yes, I am not the youngest person to need help (83); but I have no other place to turn for help…particularly now that I have to watch myself during this virus situation. I hope you understand my reasoning for the message in this thread…I was looking for easy to follow instructions in order that I would be able to return to a normal SeaMonkey. I will now recap what I have done as a result of your message: Make a complete Windows backup I made the backup. Deinstall Seamonkey x86 Deinstall Seamonkey x64 Deinstall Thunderbird. I did deinstall both Seamonkey x86 and x64. I did not deinstall Thunderbird…it is the only way I have of accessing the newsgroup. Reboot I rebooted my system after SeaMonkey was removed. Make sure that nothing is left in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey I did make this check, and no SeaMonkey was found in Program Files. Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64. I reinstalled SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64 as you suggested. Make sure it is installed in C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey That is where it is installed. Make it the default for mail, browser and news protocols I do not know how to make default for browser and news protocols. It is identified as default for mail. . Make sure that you profile data is found and accessible. If unsure create a new profile and copy all the old data into it. My profile was found without my involvement. FRG Here are the results---my problems in SeaMonkey have not changed. When I click on a message to open it, I see one page flash by followed by a second window… Window #1 is titled “Re: Moderated posts on News.mozilla.org (technical) – mozilla.general on news.mozilla.com – SeaMonkey” Window #2 is titled “SeaMonkey”;and it is the one that comes up, when I open my browser. I can send a message from SeaMonkey…this message does not show up in my Sent file. Again, I do thank you for your help…and, hopefully, your continued help in the future. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?
Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Getting posts out of the Outbox
On 6/1/2020 9:02 AM, Daniel wrote: I seem to be having a problem with my Eternal-September UseNet account. I can read the groups, no problems, however when I try to send a reply I get an error message . Quote Sending of the message failed. The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please verify that your news server settings are correct and try again. End Quote Every time!! This originally lead to me having 12 messages in my 'Drafts' folder on the "Local Folders" account. Now that I've re-booted the computer and SeaMonkey, which tried to resend those 12 messages, and failed again, so those messages have moved from the 'Drafts' Folder to the 'Outbox' folder . but still haven't appeared on the E-S newsgroup! Anybody got any suggestions as to what is going on .. assuming I can actually post this to this newsgroup/news-server!! I never thought I would be responding to anything on this news group...but here I am. I also have/had some of the same problems that you described in your message. If you noticed, a few of my recent threads in this group looked like I sent the same message more than once. I would attempt to send the message and it would come back instantaneously with a small window informing me that the message was undeliverable (for a reason that I can't remember). I, then, sent the message again; and the same thing happened...over and over. I then made a visit to this newsgroup and there were all of those messages that I thought failed to send. In fact, you may have noticed, in the message I sent to you in my recent thread had the same problem. After three attempts I just happened to observe who my message was addressed to and there was my problem. I changed the address to mozilla.support.seamonkey and then the message sent as usual. In fact, I had to change the to address in this message from Daniel to mozilla.support.seamonkey. I hope this information will help in solving your problem. Frog P.S. As you know...my SeaMonkey Newsgroup access is on the fritz. Thus, the problems I described above occurred while I was using Thunderbird. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.
On 5/31/2020 5:43 PM, David E. Ross wrote: > On 5/31/2020 2:02 PM, Frog wrote [in part]: >> I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that >> SeaMonkey has crashed. I have tried to chase down what might be causing >> this endless string of problems without much success. Let me say, >> however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a >> 32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is >> based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. >> Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and >> all is working properly with this software. Also, I am using Windows 10 >> for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot >> Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any >> problems being found. > > Do you install SeaMonkey in its default location? SeaMonkey is installed on my my C drive...64 Bit (C)>Program Files (X86)>SeaMonkey. The following folders are saved on my (E) drive...(SeaM_AboutConfig...SeaMonkeyAddBk...SeaMonkeyProfile). I did not find any other SeaMonkey folders/files etc. in any other location. If so, when you went > from x32 to x64, did you do the following, in this sequence? > > 1. Save your profile folder? No, I did not save my profile folder when I made the new install.> > 2. Remove the x32 version? No, I did not remove the X32 version before the install.> > 3. Install the x64 version? Yes, I did install the new version over the old version.> > Since I use Windows 7 and not Windows 10, I do not know if this is a > stupid question: Are you sure your PC and your Windows 10 are both x64? 64 bit operating system, 64-based proceessr> > Did you read ALL of the "Release Notes" for your version of SeaMonkey? > Have you heeded all the warnings there? > I just made a visit to the Add/Remove Program list where I discovered the following: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 (x64 en-US)151 MB added 5/19/2020 SeaMonkey 2.53.2 (x86 en-US)134 MB Added 5/12/2020 Both entries are listed. Back to your first question above--I did not make a back-up of my profile before my action to over write an earlier version of SeaMonkey. My big mistake...I lost all of my saved mail messages as a result of not making a backup at that time. I can't say, in response to question 2 above, why I didn't remove the old version of SeaMonkey before attempting to overwrite the old with the new version. In response to question 3, it shows that I did install the x64 version on 5/19/2020. Now, knowing the mess that I have made, how do I get our of this dilemma that I have made? Clearly I can see that I have two different entries for SeaMonkey in the add/remove listing and that (I believe) is responsible for my present difficulties. Now I want to get back to one version of SeaMonkey without losing my addresses, browser page listingss, etc.. I just hope I can follow the steps I must take to make SeaMonkey work. I have been a user of this family of software from Netscape 2.X to the present and I feel comfortable when using SeaMonkey. Thanks for having patience with me and coming to my aid once again. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
I continue to have an endless string of problems with SeaMonkey.
Before I start, I am about to say many things in this message that have already been the subjects of some of my earlier messages. Quickly stated...I am not making any progress in finding a solution for my SeaMonkey problems. I really am having great difficulty making SeaMonkey work on my computer. I am not able to open any messages on the m.general or the news.mozilla.com news groups. Also, my responses to Inbox messages are not being stored in my Sent folder (I don't know if they are being recorded anywhere on my computer--simply put, they are lost). My SeaMonkey folders are stored on my E drive: (SeaM_AboutConfig...SeaMonkeyAddNk...SeaMonkeyProfile). I am receiving daily messages on my computer to the effect that SeaMonkey has crashed. I have tried to chase down what might be causing this endless string of problems without much success. Let me say, however, that I suspect that my problem is associated with moving from a 32 bit software program to a 64 bit SeaMonkey program...this thinking is based on the date that I changed from 32 to 64 bits SeaMonkey software. Please note that I am currently writing this message on Thunderbird and all is working properly with this software. Also, I am using Windows 10 for both SeaMonkey and Firefox/Thunderbird. Also, I have used Webroot Secure Anywhere software on everything on my computer without any problems being found. With all of the above said, here is where I need your help. I have in my mind that I must remove/reinstall SeaMonkey on my computer. I have copied the three folders listed above in this message to a different location on my computer...hopefully I will be able to fix any problems that occur as a result of redoing my SeaMonkey software. Am I correct? The drive that the backups are recorded in is on the same drive (E) where they were originally recorded...in a folder named Backup_Seamonkey. This should keep this data secure...correct? I'm not sure which SeaMonkey software should be reinstalled on my computer-32 or 64 bit...it seems like it should be the 64 bit version. Is this a good guess? Would it be a better choice to give up on SeaMonkey and turn to Firefox/Thunderbird for my internet work? This action would also involve training another person on how to use the new software. What other problems should I consider before I goof up my computer and not be able to communicate with anybody for help? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
On 5/19/2020 2:47 PM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Frog wrote: On 5/18/2020 10:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first time? I just logged into my mozillaZine account for the first time and was asked if I wanted to save the username and password. I should have told you where I was having my problem in my earlier message. The problem is...the first time I previously used a new password on my system it would ask me if I wanted to save my password (subsequently recorded in Password Manager if I click yes). The asking about saving new passwords no longer occurs. I'm trying to understand why this is occurring and how to fix this problem. FYI, Password Manager is a lifesaver to me when it comes my forgetfulness of many things including passwords. Saving passwords doesn't work for some websites, depending on how they're coded. Some web developers seem to consider that a feature and deliberately do everything they can to stop password managers recognising and filling in their password fields - it's almost like they want you to reuse a short, easily remembered (and easily guessed) password rather than one which is unique, complex and difficult to guess! Thanks to all for your help. I believe I know one such web site that does not want you to use a Password Manager for your password...Facebook. I am ready to say Uncle on this one and put up with what I have to do in order to use their software. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
On 5/18/2020 10:00 AM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog You aren't getting asked when you log into a site for the first time? I just logged into my mozillaZine account for the first time and was asked if I wanted to save the username and password. I should have told you where I was having my problem in my earlier message. The problem is...the first time I previously used a new password on my system it would ask me if I wanted to save my password (subsequently recorded in Password Manager if I click yes). The asking about saving new passwords no longer occurs. I'm trying to understand why this is occurring and how to fix this problem. FYI, Password Manager is a lifesaver to me when it comes my forgetfulness of many things including passwords. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Password Manager in SeaMonkey 2.53.2
How do you make SeaMonkey ask whether or not your want Password Manager to save a password? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/10/2020 6:40 AM, Daniel wrote: Frog wrote on 10/05/2020 9:41 AM: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software (I have addressed this problem in recent exchanges on this user group) . I am now convinced that this might be a unfixable problem…thus, I am now looking at removing and reinstalling SeaMonkey on my computer to see if that will correct my newsgroup mail problem. I do have some question I need your help/thoughts/recommendations on before initiating this action. (((Please remember that I am not very computer technical smart and my questions will reflect my knowledge level - my fear is possibly loosing everything on my computer.))) Here are my questions: ---Will removing my current SeaMonkey software have any effect on my Profile and/or my Accounts? It shouldn't effect your Profile information, Frog but, just in case, better safe than sorry ... 1. Click 'Edit' the top left of your SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups screen 2. Click 'Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings'. This should display information about your Mail and News Accounts. 3. Select 'Server Settings' on your e-mail account on the left of this new screen. 4. Write down the location mentioned in the 'Local directory:' line of your e-mail account. This is where your e-mails (Inbox, Sent, etc.) are stored. 5. Do steps 3 and 4 for your "Local Folders" account and for each news account you have set up. Also worth while writing down the newsrc file location for each News account as well, if you wish. 6. Completely close down SeaMonkey Browser, Mail & Newsgroup Screen, EVERYTHING!! 7. In your Windows 10, start up your Windows File Manager program (Explorer, is it??) and navigate to the location you wrote down in Step 3 above. 8. Copy that folder (and everything in it) to some other location as a backup of your e-mail account. 9. Do the same things (Step 7 and 8, above) for your "Local Folders" account and for each on your News accounts. So now that you have a basic back-up of your profile . ---Should I make a backup of my SeaMonkey folders (i.e. Address Book, Inbox, etc.) before taking this action? See above for most of this no copy of the addressbook made as yet! 10. In your Windows File Manager program, do a search for 'Bookmarks' (without the inverted commas) and look for a file called 'Bookmarks' (no extension). Click on each one (newest one first, maybe) until you get a screen that has similar web addresses as you would expect to find in your SeaMonkey Browser screen. 11. In your Windows Explorer, make a copy of your 'Bookmarks' file to a similar location that you copied your Mail and News accounts. ---Will this action have any possible effect on my email messages and/or user group messages? Not normally, but if you make copies, as I directed above, all is recoverable! ---Will this action possibly fix my problem of not being able to open user group messages in SeaMonkey? I don't know, Frog, I'm tending towards 'No', but, at the very least, having copies of your e-mail and news accounts, and your Bookmarks can't hurt, can it?? FYI, it has been a long time since my present software was installed and there have been a number of updates since that time. All updates were allowed to write over my existing software...no start over new has been involved for many years. I welcome your advice on this subject. Frog See how you go, Frog, and report back! Well, Daniel, I have copied (on my E Drive) all of the files included in your message (I hope). In fact, I have three files on my E Drive that are normally found on most user C Drives. The three files are: SeaM_About Config - Dated 2011 SeaMonkey AddBk - Dated 2011 SeaMonkey Profile - Dated 2020 I wonder if either of the first two (2011) folders are of any value today. All three these files, however, have been copied into a new folder my E Drive. I did make a search elsewhere for a later address book file, bookmark file, and a config file with no success. Could it be that a later version of these 2011 folders, and the files I can't seem to locate, are all included in the Profile folder that I did copy? Again, I really appreciate your help. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/10/2020 8:43 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 5/10/20 8:20 AM, Frog wrote: On 5/10/2020 2:07 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog Well, darn, was hoping that was it. What is your smtp setting (outgoing) for the newsgroup server? Port 119? Yes,the Port number for outgoing is 119 Frog Have you tried setting the news server to news.mozilla.org, not news.Mozilla.org? The same settings in Thunderbird should work in SeaMonkey. The Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings...News Server (NNTP)...Server Name is...news.mozilla.org...Port 119...Default 119 The settings in Thunderbird are the same as the above. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/10/2020 2:07 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog Well, darn, was hoping that was it. What is your smtp setting (outgoing) for the newsgroup server? Port 119? Yes,the Port number for outgoing is 119 Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated. I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated. I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated. I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated. I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software... Check: right click: news.Mozilla.org then server settings / "ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for and is the box checked or not? I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org. Here is what I think you are looking for: Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software (I have addressed this problem in recent exchanges on this user group) . I am now convinced that this might be a unfixable problem…thus, I am now looking at removing and reinstalling SeaMonkey on my computer to see if that will correct my newsgroup mail problem. I do have some question I need your help/thoughts/recommendations on before initiating this action. (((Please remember that I am not very computer technical smart and my questions will reflect my knowledge level - my fear is possibly loosing everything on my computer.))) Here are my questions: ---Will removing my current SeaMonkey software have any effect on my Profile and/or my Accounts? ---Should I make a backup of my SeaMonkey folders (i.e. Address Book, Inbox, etc.) before taking this action? ---Will this action have any possible effect on my email messages and/or user group messages? ---Will this action possibly fix my problem of not being able to open user group messages in SeaMonkey? FYI, it has been a long time since my present software was installed and there have been a number of updates since that time. All updates were allowed to write over my existing software...no start over new has been involved for many years. I welcome your advice on this subject. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening SeaMonkey Newsgroup Messages
Sorry, I forgot to remove the last part of this message under Frog. This part is where I was trying to figure out how best to put this information into an understandable form. Frog On 5/5/2020 9:00 AM, Frog wrote: On 5/4/2020 6:04 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I immediately see the following message every time I attempt to open a newsgroup message: Launch Application This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: Pick and app seamonkey.exe Choose other Application Choose... ___ Remember my choice for news links. Cancel Open link I have searched for how to make SeaMonkey open my newsgroup messages without any success. Even if I eventually found an app that would open these messages, I would not be able to send a response message back to the sender since the app would not be connected to the newsgroup. I'm sure that I am not the first person to encounter this problem...thus, I would welcome help with solving this problem. Of note, the same SeaMonkey software does in fact open my normal email messages with no problem. Thanks for any help you send my way on this subject. Frog Can you open both SM and Tbird at the same time and compare NG settings? I was having a hard time comparing the two NG settings...I now have this under control as a result of printing out the data from both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. Account Settings -- Thunderbird will be represented in the following as Tbird and and SeaMonkey will represented by SM. - Account Settings (Window) - the following difference noted: Areas of difference include: : Account Name - On Tbird is Mozilla Help amd on SM it is my username. Your Name - On Tbird it is Frog and on SM it is K Email Address - On Tbird it is f...@pond.com and it is myusern...@verizon.net All other entries on Account Settings are the same. SMTP Server (Window) - the following difference noted: Areas of difference include: User Name - On Tbird is my username and on SM it is my email address. All other entries on SMPT Server are the same. Server Settomgs (WIndow) News File and Local Directory information is different on the two windows. All other entries on Server Settings are the same. Everything other entries in the two accounts are the same. - I also have two other "News" accounts as follows: SMPT Server - Username is my username on Tbird and my email address is on SM. Server setting are the same on both Tbird and SM except for newsrc file and Local directory. All other information on the two news accounts are the same. - I am not really sure why I have the last two "News" accounts. I hope this the information you were looking for. Let me know if this information is not what you needed. Frog Your Name Email Address SMPT Server --one difference...one only identifies my user name (Tbird) and the other has my complete email address (SM) Server Settings Both Tbird and SM are the same except for message storage instructions. All other "News" entries are the same for both Tbird and SM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening SeaMonkey Newsgroup Messages
On 5/4/2020 6:04 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I immediately see the following message every time I attempt to open a newsgroup message: Launch Application This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: Pick and app seamonkey.exe Choose other Application Choose... ___ Remember my choice for news links. Cancel Open link I have searched for how to make SeaMonkey open my newsgroup messages without any success. Even if I eventually found an app that would open these messages, I would not be able to send a response message back to the sender since the app would not be connected to the newsgroup. I'm sure that I am not the first person to encounter this problem...thus, I would welcome help with solving this problem. Of note, the same SeaMonkey software does in fact open my normal email messages with no problem. Thanks for any help you send my way on this subject. Frog Can you open both SM and Tbird at the same time and compare NG settings? I was having a hard time comparing the two NG settings...I now have this under control as a result of printing out the data from both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. Account Settings -- Thunderbird will be represented in the following as Tbird and and SeaMonkey will represented by SM. - Account Settings (Window) - the following difference noted: Areas of difference include: : Account Name - On Tbird is Mozilla Help amd on SM it is my username. Your Name - On Tbird it is Frog and on SM it is K Email Address - On Tbird it is f...@pond.com and it is myusern...@verizon.net All other entries on Account Settings are the same. SMTP Server (Window) - the following difference noted: Areas of difference include: User Name - On Tbird is my username and on SM it is my email address. All other entries on SMPT Server are the same. Server Settomgs (WIndow) News File and Local Directory information is different on the two windows. All other entries on Server Settings are the same. Everything other entries in the two accounts are the same. - I also have two other "News" accounts as follows: SMPT Server - Username is my username on Tbird and my email address is on SM. Server setting are the same on both Tbird and SM except for newsrc file and Local directory. All other information on the two news accounts are the same. - I am not really sure why I have the last two "News" accounts. I hope this the information you were looking for. Let me know if this information is not what you needed. Frog Your Name Email Address SMPT Server --one difference...one only identifies my user name (Tbird) and the other has my complete email address (SM) Server Settings Both Tbird and SM are the same except for message storage instructions. All other "News" entries are the same for both Tbird and SM ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Opening SeaMonkey Newsgroup Messages
On 5/4/2020 11:04 PM, Daniel wrote:
Frog wrote on 5/05/2020 6:54 AM:
I immediately see the following message every time I attempt to open a
newsgroup message:
Launch Application
This link needs to be opened with an application.
Send to:
Pick and app
seamonkey.exe
Choose other Application Choose...
___ Remember my choice for news links.
Cancel Open link
I have searched for how to make SeaMonkey open my newsgroup messages
without any success. Even if I eventually found an app that would
open these messages, I would not be able to send a response message
back to the sender since the app would not be connected to the newsgroup.
I'm sure that I am not the first person to encounter this
problem...thus, I would welcome help with solving this problem.
Of note, the same SeaMonkey software does in fact open my normal email
messages with no problem.
Thanks for any help you send my way on this subject.
Frog
Frog, in reading your above post, I noticed you used (in places) the
term 'App' and, in others, the term "Application". That has me wondering
are you using a Desktop/Laptop Computer ("Application") or a
iPhone/Android Phone ("App")?
I am using a desktop computer. The message quoted above includes both
application and App. My operating system is Windows 10, and I have
always use SeaMonkey for all of my internet communications. I am now
forced to use Thunderbird for accessing this newsgroup...which is a
little inconvenient for me (it involves a learning curve for me and my
wife). I should have made this information known in my first message.
I don't know, but your answer might effect the answer required!
I have 'ASSUMED' you were using a Computer, but now I'm not sure.
Thanks Daniel for your response.
Frog
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Opening SeaMonkey Newsgroup Messages
I immediately see the following message every time I attempt to open a newsgroup message: Launch Application This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: Pick and app seamonkey.exe Choose other ApplicationChoose... ___ Remember my choice for news links. Cancel Open link I have searched for how to make SeaMonkey open my newsgroup messages without any success. Even if I eventually found an app that would open these messages, I would not be able to send a response message back to the sender since the app would not be connected to the newsgroup. I'm sure that I am not the first person to encounter this problem...thus, I would welcome help with solving this problem. Of note, the same SeaMonkey software does in fact open my normal email messages with no problem. Thanks for any help you send my way on this subject. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 5/4/2020 5:52 AM, Daniel wrote: Frog wrote on 4/05/2020 10:05 AM: On 4/29/2020 7:41 PM, Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog I'm almost happy at the moment...I can receive my email messages on SeaMonkey. I still don't know what made this happen...unless it was a mistake I made while looking at "Preferences" in SeaMonkey. I found under "Preferences" three squares...one with Mail, another with News, and the third with Feed printed on them. Two of these boxes (Mail and Feeds) were grayed out and only News had a white background. I said to myself...voila, I need to find a way to make Mail have a background. I never found a way to make the Mail block turn white, so I started down a very dangerous path of experimenting. I decided to click the News block and then I got a message asking if I was sure I wanted to take this action...after some hard thinking, I decided to say yes. I was then shaking like a leaf in the wind but ultimately decided to attempt to download my (AOL) mail on SeaMonkey...would you believe my messages started to download immediately after clicking the download button. I next decided to check my newsgroup messages...they were there and new messages were downloaded. One problem here that was not present in my mail arena is the fact that I still can't open my news group messages...I only see message headings and can't open the messages to see the message text. Without seeing the message text I don't know what the message is all about and I need the message to be open in order to send a response to that message. I will continue to look for a fix for this problem. (((Question: Is it better for me to open a new item in the newsgroup for this problem?))) Needless to say I am a happy person right now, and I can send/receive email messages via SeaMonkey...able to receive newsgroup traffic on SeaMonkey but not able to open the message or respond to the message on SeaMonkey...and I can continue to visit web pages on SeaMonkey. All of this would not have been possible without the help all of you sent my way...you are all to be commended for what you do to help other people. My thanks for you help is beyond words to express. Frog Frog, I don't know if my contribution will fix your situation ... but you never know At one stage, SeaMonkey was set up so that, once you had set up an e-mail account, SeaMonkey would reason that any other account you set up would HAVE TO BE a News account, so removed the possibility of setting up another e-mail account, hence your not being able to, i.e. E-mail account being greyed out!! (I don't know why you saw 'Feed' greyed out!!) What you just stated makes sense to me in light of what I have encountered during this thread and what I have to look forward to in the coming days. Recapping a little here, I have two accounts (one titled username@verizon and another AOL Account). I believe the one titled usern...@verizzon.net is the one I am actually using to access my AOL mail on SeaMonkey. The second one I think is a dud and probably should be deleted...now I have to make sure of which one I am actually using before deleting anything. I can now see the subject line and message text of my AOL email messages on SeaMonkey. I can also access - see the subject lines of the messages of this newsgroup on SeMonkey. I cannot, however, open or respond to a newsgroup message on SeaMunkey. My attempts to open a message results in me seeing this message: This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: Pick an app Choose other Application Choose... ___Remember my choice for news links. CancelOpen link I have never been able to identify an application that will open the messages on this newsgroup using SeaMonkey. My work around for this lack of access to newsgroup messages is to open Thunderbird and all of my messages become readable. To change this situation, i.e. to allow you to set up a new E-mail account, you need to get into your set-up and make a change FYI, I am afraid to start deleting an account because I am informed that doing so will delete all of my
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 4/29/2020 7:41 PM, Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog I'm almost happy at the moment...I can receive my email messages on SeaMonkey. I still don't know what made this happen...unless it was a mistake I made while looking at "Preferences" in SeaMonkey. I found under "Preferences" three squares...one with Mail, another with News, and the third with Feed printed on them. Two of these boxes (Mail and Feeds) were grayed out and only News had a white background. I said to myself...voila, I need to find a way to make Mail have a background. I never found a way to make the Mail block turn white, so I started down a very dangerous path of experimenting. I decided to click the News block and then I got a message asking if I was sure I wanted to take this action...after some hard thinking, I decided to say yes. I was then shaking like a leaf in the wind but ultimately decided to attempt to download my (AOL) mail on SeaMonkey...would you believe my messages started to download immediately after clicking the download button. I next decided to check my newsgroup messages...they were there and new messages were downloaded. One problem here that was not present in my mail arena is the fact that I still can't open my news group messages...I only see message headings and can't open the messages to see the message text. Without seeing the message text I don't know what the message is all about and I need the message to be open in order to send a response to that message. I will continue to look for a fix for this problem. (((Question: Is it better for me to open a new item in the newsgroup for this problem?))) Needless to say I am a happy person right now, and I can send/receive email messages via SeaMonkey...able to receive newsgroup traffic on SeaMonkey but not able to open the message or respond to the message on SeaMonkey...and I can continue to visit web pages on SeaMonkey. All of this would not have been possible without the help all of you sent my way...you are all to be commended for what you do to help other people. My thanks for you help is beyond words to express. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 5/3/2020 11:31 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:
On 5/2/2020 8:25 PM, Frog wrote:
On 5/2/2020 7:51 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
On 5/2/2020 5:24 PM, Frog wrote:
{Much text deleted}
---I believe that I can (with help from knowledgeable/technical
savvy individuals on this newsgroup) make adjustments to my original
usern...@verizon.net account to make it compatible with my computer
needs. I believe that it is possible to make modifications to this
account that will once again give me access to all of my needs
Frog
P.S. I want everyone who has provided help to me in this situation to
know how much I appreciate your efforts. Your individual
contributions have meant more to me than you can ever know.
As one who has been a Verizon user before the AOL takeover here's my
one cent
I believe at the takeover time all accounts were to go to
u...@aol.com unless you decided to stay with u...@verizon.net amd IF
you changed to the AOL account you could never go back to your
Verizon.net. That's why I'm still u...@verizon.net
--
"This is America! You can't make a horse
testify against himself!" -Mister Ed
I also retained my u...@verizon.net address.
All was working without any problems on my computer (SeaMonkey
software) until very recently. I'm not sure if my computer was the
cause of my problems or whether Verizon or AOL had a hand in causing
my problems...whatever the cause, I now have a work around that
involves three software packages (Thunderbird, AOL, and SeaMonkey) to
do what I was doing on SeaMonkey alone. Any settings in your account
or profile (that you are willing to share with me) may help me to
return to some sanity on my computer. No, I am not seeking any
personal information, such as usernames or passwords, in my seeking help.
Please note that I had a 6.5 hour virus/malware scan of my computer
and no problems were found. I then got in touch with my virus scan
people for help and they had me send the results of my scan to them
for further review...the review did not turn up any problems. Thus, I
don't think the problem that put me in this mess was my computer...I
believe it had something to do with either Verizon or AOL.
It was good to hear from you and thanks for letting me know that I was
not alone when I made the decision to keep my Verizon email address.
Frog
See attached for POP and SMTP settings that I am using. Just replace
"user" with your Verizon user ID. (no quotes).
--
"This is America! You can't make a horse
testify against himself!" -Mister Ed
Thanks Mr. ED for the settings you sent my way. I had only one change
to make to my settings...
SNPT...Server Name was smtp.aol.com vs smpt.verizon.net
After making the fix, I then attempted to check my mail and I received
an error message as follows:
Error with account usern...@verizon.net
The account usern...@verizon.net is being processed. Please wait until
processing is complete to get messages.
OK
This message never goes away until I click OK. No messages appear in my
inbox
Do you have any thoughts error message?
Frog
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Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 5/2/2020 7:51 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:
On 5/2/2020 5:24 PM, Frog wrote:
{Much text deleted}
---I believe that I can (with help from knowledgeable/technical savvy
individuals on this newsgroup) make adjustments to my original
usern...@verizon.net account to make it compatible with my computer
needs. I believe that it is possible to make modifications to this
account that will once again give me access to all of my needs
Frog
P.S. I want everyone who has provided help to me in this situation to
know how much I appreciate your efforts. Your individual
contributions have meant more to me than you can ever know.
As one who has been a Verizon user before the AOL takeover here's my one
cent
I believe at the takeover time all accounts were to go to u...@aol.com
unless you decided to stay with u...@verizon.net amd IF you changed to
the AOL account you could never go back to your Verizon.net. That's why
I'm still u...@verizon.net
--
"This is America! You can't make a horse
testify against himself!" -Mister Ed
I also retained my u...@verizon.net address.
All was working without any problems on my computer (SeaMonkey software)
until very recently. I'm not sure if my computer was the cause of my
problems or whether Verizon or AOL had a hand in causing my
problems...whatever the cause, I now have a work around that involves
three software packages (Thunderbird, AOL, and SeaMonkey) to do what I
was doing on SeaMonkey alone. Any settings in your account or profile
(that you are willing to share with me) may help me to return to some
sanity on my computer. No, I am not seeking any personal information,
such as usernames or passwords, in my seeking help.
Please note that I had a 6.5 hour virus/malware scan of my computer and
no problems were found. I then got in touch with my virus scan people
for help and they had me send the results of my scan to them for further
review...the review did not turn up any problems. Thus, I don't think
the problem that put me in this mess was my computer...I believe it had
something to do with either Verizon or AOL.
It was good to hear from you and thanks for letting me know that I was
not alone when I made the decision to keep my Verizon email address.
Frog
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On 5/2/2020 10:59 AM, NFN Smith wrote: Daniel wrote: I am starting to wonder if I should delete both of the accounts I have on SeaMonkey and start all over with one new account. I make this comment based on selecting SeaMonkey to provide everything I need...Mail - News - Feeds. Be aware, Frog, that if you delete both your accounts on SeaMonkey, you will be deleting all the e-mails you have sent and received on those two accounts! Least that's what happened to me! ;-( I haven't been following this thread closely, but at this point, a couple of thoughts... Something that Frog might want to do is consider doing some playing in a different user profile, rather than his current profile. That way, there's more capacity to experiment, without risking damage to existing setups or data. One way to do that would be to create a new profile in Seamonkey, and try setting up a new connection there. The idea is to figure out the mechanics of what works or not, where you're not trying to work around your existing data. Once you get that working, you can replicate those settings in your normal profile. Going a step further, consider the possibility of a temporary install of Thunderbird -- its account setup wizard works pretty well (more extensive than Seamonkey), and I've found that for most providers, all it takes to get a workable connection is specifying your email address, password and whether you want POP or IMAP, and the wizard is pretty good about figuring out the rest of the settings. There are exceptions, especially if a provider requires a different password for external clients, as a way of doing a form of multi-factor authentication, but absent that, the setup wizard should be able to do most of the work in figuring things out. As with the suggestion above, once you have a working connection, you can tweak your configs in Seamonkey to match. However, it is possible that Verizon/AOL is doing something like alternate password, and if so, the only source of information of how to do your configs will be information that you get directly from them. My own mail provider does this, and when I was setting up my phone to be able to check my mail, I found that they required me to do a one-time configuration of a separate password that's used in a mail client (although somehow, they seem to have grandfathered my long-time connection in Seamonkey, where I've never had to adjust that.) Item of caution: if you're working with a POP connections on a test setup, before you commit to downloading mail from a server, I do encourage you to check the advanced settings, to adjust the mail retention preferences. In Seamonkey, the default setting is to delete mail from the server after it's downloaded, and if you're using a test configuration, it's a good idea to set it to not delete from the server, so that the test connection isn't grabbing mail that you want to go into your normal mail. Another consideration: if you're changing server names, it's generally better to create a new account anyway, and not try to tinker with the name in an existing account. I have done that in the past, even in changing providers, but the result is that you get a lot of messiness at folder and file level within your user profile, and it's worse when you have multiple accounts. Some of the naming includes server names when created, and if you're digging at that level, it can be really confusing to be seeing old names that don't correspond with current usage. With this in mind, having a new account in place is probably a good idea. As for making sure that you don't lose any of your mail archives, I recommend either (or both) of the following: 1) Before you do any additional tinkering, make sure you get a backup of your existing profile. In Windows, you want to get the entire contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey . The AppData folder is normally hidden, where you can't find it in the Windows explorer, but if you put that path (with the environment variable) in the Explorer's address bar, it's no problem to find. And depending on what backup tool you use, some allow you to use that construct in what you're including in your backups. For me, if I'm doing a data backup, besides all the normal libraries in Windows, I include that designation, so that I get all my Seamonkey data, and I do the same with my data for Firefox and Thunderbird (%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Firefox and %APPDATA%\Thunderbird, respectively -- Thunderbird's designation is slightly different, for some reason). Even if you don't do this for your regular backups, getting a copy of your Seamonkey data *somewhere* is a really good idea, even if you simply copy %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey to your Documents library. 2) If you anticipate the possibility of deleting your existing POP account, copy all you mail data into Local Folders, where it can stay, even if the account gets deleted. There's
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 5/1/2020 11:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/30/20 4:58 PM, Frog wrote: On 4/30/2020 3:34 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/30/20 2:16 PM, Frog wrote: On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog You have a usern...@aol.com email account or are trying to use your usern...@verizon.net email address with AOL mail? I can agree that I have an email address at AOL and it is usern...@verison.net. I agreed/selected some two years ago to retain my original Verizon email address over a new AOL email address. I made this selection because I thought it would save me a lot of time informing people about a new email address. Also, I was uneasy about my technical skill that I thought would be needed to change "things" in my computer to make a new address work. I'm not sure, in light of my situation today, that I made a wise choice to continue to use my Verizon address. Bottom line..I have never had a usern...@aol.com email address. That won't work. I'm not sure I understand what won't work. I continue to use my original usern...@verizon.net address when I send/retrieve my email from AOL...and it continues to work in the AOL's mail system. What won't work is trying to use the Verizon address with an imap.aol.com or pop.aol.com server name in your configuration. It should be. Server Name: pop.verizon.net. Port: 995 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication Method: Normal password The outgoing SMTP server settings are: Server Name: smtp.verizon.net Port:465 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication Method: Normal password That's what my settings are. You probably have to resolve that Known Issue before you can create an email account. WOW!!! I entered the settings as you suggested and I can again access this help page on SeaMonkey. I, however, cannot see the text of the messages...all I see is the following when attempting to open a message: Launch Application X This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: Pick an app Choose other Application Choose... ___Remember my choice for news links. Cancel Open link Thus, I had to return to Thunderbird to make this message available for reading the text of your message and being able to respond to your message. When I click "Choose" on this small window I am taken to another window titled "Another Application." When I click "Open link", it takes me to a blank page with the same message documented above. What is causing my messages open normally in SeaMonkey? Thanks again for getting me this far in solving my SeaMonkey problems. Frog Your confused? That makes two of use. ;) So creating the email account worked, you can receive and send email, but can't read newsgroup messages in your newsgroup account? I vaguely remember seeing that message when trying to read newsgroup messages. Forget which version and I'm not sure what I did to fix it. Here is a link to my settings. <https://imgur.com/rUIAEJL> If you want SeaMonkey to be the default for Mail, News and Feeds select each button. I only have News selected and that may be what fixed it for me. Good luck! Thanks for your continuing help...I would be lost without you and the other helpers on this group. I am starting to wonder if I should delete both of the accounts I have on SeaMonkey and start all over with one new account. I make this comment based on selecting SeaMonkey to provide everything I need...Mail - News - Feeds. I just sent a message that includes most of the settings I have in my two existing accounts. They seem to present a real mishmash of instructions and this makes me think deleting both existing accounts and starting over with one new account is what I need to do. SeaMonkey was previously doing everything for me and why not return to what has always worked for me. I will continue to have AOL and Thunderbird/Firefox on my system as backups. Now to the unknown part of this possible move...what if I can get only the subject lines of messages and then be asked "Choose other application" to open/read
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 5/1/2020 11:18 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/30/20 4:58 PM, Frog wrote: On 4/30/2020 3:34 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/30/20 2:16 PM, Frog wrote: On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog You have a usern...@aol.com email account or are trying to use your usern...@verizon.net email address with AOL mail? I can agree that I have an email address at AOL and it is usern...@verison.net. I agreed/selected some two years ago to retain my original Verizon email address over a new AOL email address. I made this selection because I thought it would save me a lot of time informing people about a new email address. Also, I was uneasy about my technical skill that I thought would be needed to change "things" in my computer to make a new address work. I'm not sure, in light of my situation today, that I made a wise choice to continue to use my Verizon address. Bottom line..I have never had a usern...@aol.com email address. That won't work. I'm not sure I understand what won't work. I continue to use my original usern...@verizon.net address when I send/retrieve my email from AOL...and it continues to work in the AOL's mail system. What won't work is trying to use the Verizon address with an imap.aol.com or pop.aol.com server name in your configuration. It should be. Server Name: pop.verizon.net. Port: 995 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication Method: Normal password The outgoing SMTP server settings are: Server Name: smtp.verizon.net Port:465 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication Method: Normal password That's what my settings are. You probably have to resolve that Known Issue before you can create an email account. WOW!!! I entered the settings as you suggested and I can again access this help page on SeaMonkey. I, however, cannot see the text of the messages...all I see is the following when attempting to open a message: Launch Application X This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: Pick an app Choose other Application Choose... ___Remember my choice for news links. Cancel Open link Thus, I had to return to Thunderbird to make this message available for reading the text of your message and being able to respond to your message. When I click "Choose" on this small window I am taken to another window titled "Another Application." When I click "Open link", it takes me to a blank page with the same message documented above. What is causing my messages open normally in SeaMonkey? Thanks again for getting me this far in solving my SeaMonkey problems. Frog Your confused? That makes two of use. ;) So creating the email account worked, you can receive and send email, but can't read newsgroup messages in your newsgroup account? I vaguely remember seeing that message when trying to read newsgroup messages. Forget which version and I'm not sure what I did to fix it. Here is a link to my settings. <https://imgur.com/rUIAEJL> If you want SeaMonkey to be the default for Mail, News and Feeds select each button. I only have News selected and that may be what fixed it for me. Good luck! Thanks for your continuing help...I would be lost without you and the other helpers on this group. I am starting to wonder if I should delete both of the accounts I have on SeaMonkey and start all over with one new account. I make this comment based on selecting SeaMonkey to provide everything I need...Mail - News - Feeds. I just sent a message that includes most of the settings I have in my two existing accounts. They seem to present a real mishmash of instructions and this makes me think deleting both existing accounts and starting over with one new account is what I need to do. SeaMonkey was previously doing everything for me and why not return to what has always worked for me. I will continue to have AOL and Thunderbird/Firefox on my system as backups. Now to the unknown part of this possible move...what if I can get only the subject lines of messages and then be asked "Choose other application" to open/read
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
Thank you for helping me with fixing a part of my world I know very little about...computers. I made the changes you recommended and I am not able to access my AOL mail from SeaMonkey. I attempted to download my email messages from AOL after the changes were made and this is the error message I received: Error with account f...@verizon.net Request failed Mailbox unavailable. Please verify that your email address is correct in your account settings and try again. I have two accounts in SeaMonkey...one account is for my newsgroups and browsing the internet. The second (titled AOL) account is used for downloading email messages from AOL to SeaMonkey. I believe a select look at the two accounts tells me that something is wrong between the two accounts. Thus, I am sending select account settings for both accounts for your review. Account NameAOL Account Your Name Frog Email Address f...@verizon.net SMTP Server Settings Description f...@verizon.net Server Name smtp:aol.com Port465 Connection security SSL/TLS Authentication method Normal password User Name Frog Server Settings Server Type POP Mail ServerPort 993 Default 995 User Name frog Connection Security SSL/TLS Aythentication Normal Password Local directory E:SeaMonkeyprofile\mail\pop.aol.com Select pages for account titled "Account Settings - Account Namef...@verizon.net Your Name AOL Account Email Address f...@verizon.net SMTP Server Settings Description f...@verizon.net Server Name smtp:aol.com Port465 Connection security SSL/TLS Authentication method Normal password User Name Frog Server Settings Server Type POP Mail ServerPort 995 Default 995 User Name f...@verizon.net Connection Security SSL/TLS Aythentication Normal Password Local directory E:SeaMonkeyprofile\mail\incoming.verizon.net I hope you can follow the above. Thanks again for helping me with my seemingly endless computer problems. Frog On 5/1/2020 8:36 AM, rmpbklyn wrote: see this https://help.aol.com/articles/download-your-email-from-aol-mail-with-imap Then, use this info to configure your app Incoming Mail (IMAP) Server • Server - export.imap.aol.com • Port - 993 • Requires SSL - Yes Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server • Server - smtp.aol.com • Port - 465 • Requires SSL - Yes • Requires authentication - Yes On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 7:41:24 PM UTC-4, Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 4/30/2020 3:34 PM, WaltS48 wrote: On 4/30/20 2:16 PM, Frog wrote: On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog You have a usern...@aol.com email account or are trying to use your usern...@verizon.net email address with AOL mail? I can agree that I have an email address at AOL and it is usern...@verison.net. I agreed/selected some two years ago to retain my original Verizon email address over a new AOL email address. I made this selection because I thought it would save me a lot of time informing people about a new email address. Also, I was uneasy about my technical skill that I thought would be needed to change "things" in my computer to make a new address work. I'm not sure, in light of my situation today, that I made a wise choice to continue to use my Verizon address. Bottom line..I have never had a usern...@aol.com email address. That won't work. I'm not sure I understand what won't work. I continue to use my original usern...@verizon.net address when I send/retrieve my email from AOL...and it continues to work in the AOL's mail system. What won't work is trying to use the Verizon address with an imap.aol.com or pop.aol.com server name in your configuration. It should be. Server Name: pop.verizon.net. Port: 995 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication Method: Normal password The outgoing SMTP server settings are: Server Name: smtp.verizon.net Port:465 Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication Method: Normal password That's what my settings are. You probably have to resolve that Known Issue before you can create an email account. WOW!!! I entered the settings as you suggested and I can again access this help page on SeaMonkey. I, however, cannot see the text of the messages...all I see is the following when attempting to open a message: Launch ApplicationX This link needs to be opened with an application. Send to: Pick an app Choose other ApplicationChoose... ___Remember my choice for news links. Cancel Open link Thus, I had to return to Thunderbird to make this message available for reading the text of your message and being able to respond to your message. When I click "Choose" on this small window I am taken to another window titled "Another Application." When I click "Open link", it takes me to a blank page with the same message documented above. What is causing my messages open normally in SeaMonkey? Thanks again for getting me this far in solving my SeaMonkey problems. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 4/29/2020 8:10 PM, WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog You have a usern...@aol.com email account or are trying to use your usern...@verizon.net email address with AOL mail? I can agree that I have an email address at AOL and it is usern...@verison.net. I agreed/selected some two years ago to retain my original Verizon email address over a new AOL email address. I made this selection because I thought it would save me a lot of time informing people about a new email address. Also, I was uneasy about my technical skill that I thought would be needed to change "things" in my computer to make a new address work. I'm not sure, in light of my situation today, that I made a wise choice to continue to use my Verizon address. Bottom line..I have never had a usern...@aol.com email address. That won't work. I'm not sure I understand what won't work. I continue to use my original usern...@verizon.net address when I send/retrieve my email from AOL...and it continues to work in the AOL's mail system. > Have you read the SeaMonkey Known Issues and attmpted this fix. After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in about:config, or delete the invalid news account (bug 521861). No, I have not read the SeaMonkey Known Issues and attempted a fix. I will do a search for SeaMonkey bug fixes and see if I can locate bug fix 521861. Hopefully I will find this item and that it communicates a fix I can understand. As i stated in my response to Paul in Houston...I am and user of a computer and have very limited technical computer skills. Why can't you use SeaMonkey for newsgroups? Simply put, I have attempted to access this mailgroup repeatedly and all I get is a long period of a blank screen followed by a timed out message. I can't download newsgroup messages, respond or create messages when using SeaMonkey...it's as if it is dead. I finally gave up on trying to find a fix for my problems and then set up Thunderbird in an attempt to find guidance on how to make every thing work once more. I appreciate your help and I do apologize to you and all of the other responders for my lack of responsiveness during my earlier cry for help on this newsgroup. I was lost as to how to make my newsgroups work on SeaMonkey...thus, I was fighting to keep my head above water at that time. I am not much better of now than I was at that time...but I am now able to access this newsgroup via Thunderbird. Frog P.S. I presented more details about my dilemma in my earlier message to Paul in Houston, TX...also in this thread. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 4/30/2020 12:58 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog Lets fix the NG access first because its easiest to fix. You last accessed this NG with SM on Apr 17. What have you changed since then to not able to access this group? Paul, thanks for your response to my message. The problem started when suddenly I decided to visit this support group. I attempted to open this group and repeatedly received a small message to the effect that my request had timed out. Then, I noticed that I would receive this message without my checking my mail...it would pop up on the screen without any action being taken. I assumed that it was making normal checks for support group messages. Long story short, I found that my actions taken to move from Verizon to AOL must have not been correct...thus, I downloaded Thunderbird and Firefox and started using it for accessing this support group. I personally believe that Verizon suddenly did something that caused me to lose access to everything except visiting web pages. This caused me to start using AOL software (which I did install some two years ago when Verizon bought AOL). I did not like the AOL mail system as much as I liked having my mail on SeaMonkey (which continued to work until (I believe) Verizon suddenly cut my access to everything except visiting web pages. That forced me to use AOL for my mail. That (I believe) was the cause of my many problems with SeaMonkey. I had earlier tried to establish an AOL account on SeaMonkey. I got on the internet looking for help...port numbers, server name, POP or IMAP, and on to many other things I needed to know in order to make an attempt to have an AOL account on SeaMonkey. I then decided to make an AOL account on SeaMonkey. Well, another long story, I made several attempts to make a workable account on SeaMonkey and was unsuccessful in all of my efforts. I thought one of my major problems with the new account was my email address...I made a decision, when AOL came about, to continue to use my original Verizon email address in AOL. This fact caused me many periods of thought as to what should be in the account in order to make it work...and nothing I did was a success. I noted during this problem that my old Verizon account was my Default account on SeaMonkey. I then decided to make AOL the default SeaMonkey account. This act resulted in my losing all of my saved Verizon emails. This action also had an effect on my AOL account...I lost all of my AOL saved messages and was no longer able to access my AOL mail. At this point, I once again reverted back to having my old Verizon account as my Default account...with the result of being able to access my AOL mail normally. I had a thought that my phone line is Verizon and somehow that was a part of my problem...but later I decided that a phone line is a phone line, and that wasn't a part of my problem. I have read and printed items found on the internet that I thought would make my efforts a success. I was at this point that I realized that this old man (83) needed help with this problem. As noted in my messages to the support group, I am looking for simple-to-follow instructions as to how to achieve my goal. At the moment, I have SeaMonkey on my system and it is only able to perform as a browser of web pages. I have Firefox and Thunderbird on my system that allows me to send this message and it performs as a browser. I have AOL on my system and it allows me to access my mail (and likely a number of other things that I haven't had time to explore). I have used SeaMonkey for years and Netscape before that (back to 95). I feel like I am at home when using SeaMonkey and that is why I wanted to use it for all of my internet activities...user group, mail, and browser. Bottom line, I continue to receive time-out messages on SeaMonkey while attempting to visit this support group and when attempting take an action involving my normal mail...visiting web pages is the only SeaMonkey action that I can take without being confronted with the time-out message,. Well Paul, that is the best description I can give you
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 4/30/2020 12:58 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog Lets fix the NG access first because its easiest to fix. You last accessed this NG with SM on Apr 17. What have you changed since then to not able to access this group? Paul, thanks for your response to my message. The problem started when suddenly I decided to visit this support group. I attempted to open this group and repeatedly received a small message to the effect that my request had timed out. Then, I noticed that I would receive this message without my checking my mail...it would pop up on the screen without any action being taken. I assumed that it was making normal checks for support group messages. Long story short, I found that my actions taken to move from Verizon to AOL must have not been correct...thus, I downloaded Thunderbird and Firefox and started using it for accessing this support group. I personally believe that Verizon suddenly did something that caused me to lose access to everything except visiting web pages. This caused me to start using AOL software (which I did install some two years ago when Verizon bought AOL). I did not like the AOL mail system as much as I liked having my mail on SeaMonkey (which continued to work until (I believe) Verizon suddenly cut my access to everything except visiting web pages. That forced me to use AOL for my mail. That (I believe) was the cause of my many problems with SeaMonkey. I had earlier tried to establish an AOL account on SeaMonkey. I got on the internet looking for help...port numbers, server name, POP or IMAP, and on to many other things I needed to know in order to make an attempt to have an AOL account on SeaMonkey. I then decided to make an AOL account on SeaMonkey. Well, another long story, I made several attempts to make a workable account on SeaMonkey and was unsuccessful in all of my efforts. I thought one of my major problems with the new account was my email address...I made a decision, when AOL came about, to continue to use my original Verizon email address in AOL. This fact caused me many periods of thought as to what should be in the account in order to make it work...and nothing I did was a success. I noted during this problem that my old Verizon account was my Default account on SeaMonkey. I then decided to make AOL the default SeaMonkey account. This act resulted in my losing all of my saved Verizon emails. This action also had an effect on my AOL account...I lost all of my AOL saved messages and was no longer able to access my AOL mail. At this point, I once again reverted back to having my old Verizon account as my Default account...with the result of being able to access my AOL mail normally. I had a thought that my phone line is Verizon and somehow that was a part of my problem...but later I decided that a phone line is a phone line, and that wasn't a part of my problem. I have read and printed items found on the internet that I thought would make my efforts a success. I was at this point that I realized that this old man (83) needed help with this problem. As noted in my messages to the support group, I am looking for simple-to-follow instructions as to how to achieve my goal. At the moment, I have SeaMonkey on my system and it is only able to perform as a browser of web pages. I have Firefox and Thunderbird on my system that allows me to send this message and it performs as a browser. I have AOL on my system and it allows me to access my mail (and likely a number of other things that I haven't had time to explore). I have used SeaMonkey for years and Netscape before that (back to 95). I feel like I am at home when using SeaMonkey and that is why I wanted to use it for all of my internet activities...user group, mail, and browser. Bottom line, I continue to receive time-out messages on SeaMonkey while attempting to visit this support group and when attempting take an action involving my normal mail...visiting web pages is the only SeaMonkey action that I can take without being confronted with the time-out message,. Well Paul, that is the best description I can give you
Re: How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
On 4/30/2020 12:58 AM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog Lets fix the NG access first because its easiest to fix. You last accessed this NG with SM on Apr 17. What have you changed since then to not able to access this group? Paul, thanks for your response to my message. The problem started when suddenly I decided to visit this support group. I attempted to open this group and repeatedly received a small message to the effect that my request had timed out. Then, I noticed that I would receive this message without my checking my mail...it would pop up on the screen without any action being taken. I assumed that it was making normal checks for support group messages. Long story short, I found that my actions taken to move from Verizon to AOL must have not been correct...thus, I downloaded Thunderbird and Firefox and started using it for accessing this support group. I personally believe that Verizon suddenly did something that caused me to lose access to everything except visiting web pages. This caused me to start using AOL software (which I did install some two years ago when Verizon bought AOL). I did not like the AOL mail system as much as I liked having my mail on SeaMonkey (which continued to work until (I believe) Verizon suddenly cut my access to everything except visiting web pages. That forced me to use AOL for my mail. That (I believe) was the cause of my many problems with SeaMonkey. I had earlier tried to establish an AOL account on SeaMonkey. I got on the internet looking for help...port numbers, server name, POP or IMAP, and on to many other things I needed to know in order to make an attempt to have an AOL account on SeaMonkey. I then decided to make an AOL account on SeaMonkey. Well, another long story, I made several attempts to make a workable account on SeaMonkey and was unsuccessful in all of my efforts. I thought one of my major problems with the new account was my email address...I made a decision, when AOL came about, to continue to use my original Verizon email address in AOL. This fact caused me many periods of thought as to what should be in the account in order to make it work...and nothing I did was a success. I noted during this problem that my old Verizon account was my Default account on SeaMonkey. I then decided to make AOL the default SeaMonkey account. This act resulted in my losing all of my saved Verizon emails. This action also had an effect on my AOL account...I lost all of my AOL saved messages and was no longer able to access my AOL mail. At this point, I once again reverted back to having my old Verizon account as my Default account...with the result of being able to access my AOL mail normally. I had a thought that my phone line is Verizon and somehow that was a part of my problem...but later I decided that a phone line is a phone line, and that wasn't a part of my problem. I have read and printed items found on the internet that I thought would make my efforts a success. I was at this point that I realized that this old man (83) needed help with this problem. As noted in my messages to the support group, I am looking for simple-to-follow instructions as to how to achieve my goal. At the moment, I have SeaMonkey on my system and it is only able to perform as a browser of web pages. I have Firefox and Thunderbird on my system that allows me to send this message and it performs as a browser. I have AOL on my system and it allows me to access my mail (and likely a number of other things that I haven't had time to explore). I have used SeaMonkey for years and Netscape before that (back to 95). I feel like I am at home when using SeaMonkey and that is why I wanted to use it for all of my internet activities...user group, mail, and browser. Bottom line, I continue to receive time-out messages on SeaMonkey while attempting to visit this support group and when attempting take an action involving my normal mail...visiting web pages is the only SeaMonkey action that I can take without being confronted with the time-out message,. Well Paul, that is the best description I can give you
How to access my AOL mail account using SeaMonkey.
I have attempted to replace my Verizon email account with an AOL email account on SeaMonkey without success. At the moment, I can only access web pages using SeaMonkey...my access to this support group is accessible only thru Thunderbird. I have tried every combination of settings that I have read about and nothing makes a connection to AOL via SeaMonkey. Can someone point me or give me simple directions for how to access my AOL messages on SeaMonkey? Would it be easier for me to abandon SeaMonkey and and move to have my AOL email delivered to Thunderbird? If so, I will need simple-to- follow instructions as to how to make that happen. My operating system is Windows 10 and my SeaMonkey version is version 2.53.1 Please help me with simple-to-follow instructions. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Setting up my computer with a new ISP...while not loosing data on my system setup.
On 4/13/2020 11:47 AM, NFN Smith wrote: Frog wrote: Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send messages. Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from Verizon to AOL> ISP. I now I want to continue using SeaMonkey in the same manner as I did while connected to Verizon. All it is is a matter of adding an additional account to your current configs. Seamonkey has no difficulties with connecting with multiple accounts and multiple providers. All that's necessary is File -> New -> Account, and then follow the prompts of the account setup wizard, and put in the necessary settings for AOL. Don't touch your Verizon account at all. Reading between the lines, it sounds like you're a POP user. It's now pretty common that providers presume IMAP, to allow for access from multiple devices (and I think there may be a few providers that don't even offer POP), but if you're using a single computer, there's no reason that you can't continue to use POP, if you prefer it. I'm not aware of any trickiness with AOL's setups. I do know that with Gmail, there's their oAUTH system for authentication, and where you have to configure Gmail for "less secure", because Seamonkey doesn't do oAUTH. In a similar way there's a growing number of providers that are doing some form of multi-factor authentication. I know that my own provider requires a setup of a separate password to use in an external mail client -- it's not the same password used for login at their web site. I'm guessing that AOL doesn't do that, but I could be wrong. I know that I must take steps to configure things so that I continue to have access to old Verizon messages, while adding new AOL messages to this system (if that is possible). Once you have the AOL connection working, all your Verizon messages are still there, assuming that you're using POP. At that point, you can drag-and-drop all the messages, either into your AOL account, or into Local Folders. If your Verizon account is IMAP, then you should drag-and-drop all your messages. If the AOL account is IMAP, then dragging into AOL will cause all your messages to be uploaded to AOL's server. If you move everything to Local Folders, then all the content will be stored only on your local hard drive. If your Verizon connection is POP, all your messages are there, and you simply leave the Verizon account there (although you will want to adjust the server settings for that account, so that Seamonkey isn't automatically checking for new messages). For what it's worth, in my own setups, I have content in my Local Folders dating back close to 25 years, on accounts that were discarded long ago, including on proprietary systems, where I was able to import messages into Seamonkey. For sure, I don't want to lose anything I previously saved on my computer that originated via the Verizon days. Just to be on the safe side, it is worth getting a backup of all your data, but that's something that you should be doing as a part of your routine backups. In Windows, Seamonkey's data is in %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey . On my own system, I make sure that folder is included in my daily backups, but before I'm doing something with configurations (especially if I'm working at file/folder level), I make sure I copy all that data to somewhere else on the computer. I believe there will be a need to reconfigure MailWasher to work with AOL. This MailWasher software permits me to weed out unwanted messages prior to downloading messages to my computer...I have found this software helps to keep from introducing virus and malware software on my computer. There might be a tweak in your settings for MailWasher, where you need to tell it about AOL's server. However, I'm not convinced that you need MailWasher, and for more than one reason. The primary thing is that if you're moving to a new mail address, spammers mostly won't know about the new address, and if you're careful about not broadcasting your address to where the spammers can pick it up, you may not see a lot of spam for MailWasher to handle. Additionally, Seamonkey has native spam-handling capacity, in the same way that Thunderbird does. The Mozilla spam-handling tools may not be as robust as I would like but they do work. That won't prevent download, but a message recognized as spam will be shunted to the Junk folder, where it can be easily discarded, in the same way that you empty trash. However, any user-trained filter needs a measure of training, and you have to watch for both false positives and false negatives, and make corrections. There's several ways to do that, but one way is right-clicking on a message in a folder, and selecting Mark -> either "As Junk" or "As Not Junk", and subsequent messages that are similar will be treated the same way.
Seeing Messages Texts on the Screen
I am unable to see the text or messages on the newsgroup. I can see the titles of messages and when I click on a message, I see this message: Launch ApplicationX This link deeds to open with an application. Send to: Pick an app Choose ___Remember my choice for news liks. Cancel Open link Why is this suddenly showing up on my screen? I have always simply clicked on the subject line of a message and it automatically opened in a new window. Isn't opening mail in SeaMonkey a programmed part of the mail system? I don't know whether I will be able to open your response ... I hope so as I am having some problems with my computer. Once I cure this problem, I will be seeking help with my other problem(s). Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Setting up my computer with a new ISP...while not loosing data on my system setup.
Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send messages. Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from Verizon to AOL> ISP. I now I want to continue using SeaMonkey in the same manner as I did while connected to Verizon. I know that I must take steps to configure things so that I continue to have access to old Verizon messages, while adding new AOL messages to this system (if that is possible). For sure, I don't want to lose anything I previously saved on my computer that originated via the Verizon days. I believe there will be a need to reconfigure MailWasher to work with AOL. This MailWasher software permits me to weed out unwanted messages prior to downloading messages to my computer...I have found this software helps to keep from introducing virus and malware software on my computer. Have I forgotten anything? I will continue using the same Verizon email address on the AOL system. I would welcome any help or guidance with the above that comes my way. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
Frog wrote: As you probably noticed in one of my earlier messages, I sent a Test message to see if I was able to send a help message to this group. That message seemed to make it to this address. Thus I am now going to state my problem and hope somebody comes to my rescue. Some time ago I was required to move my server support to AOL from Verizon. I made all of the changes at that time and all has bee working without a problem until now...I presently cannot send a normal email message from my computer via SeaMonkey (mainly) or from Mozilla, All such attempts ends with a message as follows: Outgoing server (SMTP) Server Password Required box - Use Password Manager to remember the password. OK _ Cancel_ I Have not made any changes to any settings in either SeaMonkey or Mozilla since they originally set a long while ago. I then typed in my password and this is the next message that appeared. Login to account failed Login to server smtp.verizon.net with username .failed. I then clicked cancel and got this message. SeaMonkey Message - Test Status: Connected to smtp.verizon.net Progress Cancel The green bar after Progress never closes, so I clicked Cancel. I called AOL today and (after waiting for over 2 hours on the phone waiting for a human to pick up the phone, and another almost 3 hours today before someone picked up the phone. I told them about my problem and then I was told that I had a general help desk and that I needed to talk to a technician, This person then proceeded to tell me that I could not speak to a technician until I purchased a technical support plan ($14.99). After some wrangling, He said that having this plan was the only way to get technical help...he then offered my the first 30 days free. I gave in knowing that I needed help and that I could cancel the technical support plan before the end of the 30 day period. Well I wsthen on hold for another 3 hours when I finally got to speak to a technician. He said that he was going to have to delete all messages in my Inbox, Drafts, and Trash before he could work on the problem. He wanted to know whether I had a data backup plan...and I said no. the then said that I needed to backup these files before he did any work on my system. That is where he stopped helping me. (((Please note, I was on the phone yesterday evening waiting for 3 hours for somebody to help me...I was then cot off and got a recorded message that the office was closed for the day and that I could get help from the AOL help pages,) A long story for no help. I can receive downloads on my computer without any problem. I can click on web addresses and they work. Another action that did occur during my talk with the AOL technician was one of his showing me that a message could be sent through AOL and that it would work..and it did. Thus, the only thing not working on my computer is sending email messages via SeaMonkey or Mozilla. I would appreciate any help you send my way on this subject. Windows 10 - SeaMonkey 2.531 Frog Well, I now have the answer to all of the items covered in this thread and now must start on a new thread. I am going to bore you for a moment in order to help someone else who might be going through the problems I have been facing. So here goes the end of this thread: Part 1: I really thought that I was dealing with a virus or malware on my computer; but I didn't want accept this thought, since I have had my present virus scan software (WebRoot) on my system for years; and it has never let me down. As I stated in one of my messages, I did want to weed a virus or malware possibility out of the picture...thus, I did a complete scan of my entire system (6.5 hours of scanning); and no bad things were found on my system. I then sent a message to the WebRoot people, and they had me forward the results of my scan to them for analysis. They informed me, after their scan was completed, that my system did not have a virus or malware problem...it was completely clean. They suggested that I contact Verizon (which remains a part of my email address) for help. I thought about it and decided that a conversation with Verizon might take less that a few minutes; however, the wait to talk to somebody might take hours of waiting. I then turned to the internet for help. Part 2: The second part pertains to what I found on the internet. Here is that information: Verizon Email Retirement "Verizon has retired our (their) email service. We have completed our notifications regarding this change; and customers no longer have the option to keep their Verizon.net email address or extract and move their data to another service provider.(((I don't recall ever receiving a notification as stated above.))) Here is the web address where you might want to read more about this Verizon Email Retirement; https://www.verizon.com/support/consumer/ema
Re: Not able to send messages.
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/9/20 1:48 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Snippy, snip, snip... Are you sure that the SMTP for AOL is identical to the SMTP for Verizon? smtp.aol.com for AOL smtp.verizon.net for Verizon That what I get from Thunderbird's account setup wizard. Exactly. We don't know what Frog is trying to do. Thanks for helping this 83 yr old beginner level technician solve a problem with his out-going mail situation. Here is what my Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings > Server Settings are: Verizon Server type - POP Mail Server Server Name: smpt.verizon.net Port:995 Default:995 User Name: My complete email address is listed here. Security Settings Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication method Normal password AOL Server type - POP Mail Server Server Name: mail.aol.com Port:995 Default:995 User Name: My complete email address is listed here. Security Settings Connection Security: SSL/TLS Authentication method Password transmitted insecurely Please Note: Both settings have worked for a year, and the Verizon setup suddenly stopped working. - The following (to the best of my ability to explain) is the answer to "We don't know what Frog is trying to do." Simply put, I am trying to recover my ability to send messages by-way-of Verizon. Here is a little more information on that subject. I have two methods for my mail...Verizon and AOL The AOL setup on my computer occurred when AOL was purchased by Verizon...I was a long time Verizon customer when this event occurred. I continued to use my old Verizon set-up for 99% of my activity on the internet...AOL is used only when Verizon is not working properly---like now. I an not able to send my personal messages thru the Verizon system for unknown reasons...that is what I'm trying to solve at this time. All other Verizon functions have not been affected by this outgoing mail situation until yesterday evening. We are now getting the "timed out message when we attempt to download our regular mail. In fact, this message will pass thru the Verizon mail setup. Until yesterday evening, I received all of my incoming mail via Verizon as I have always done in the past. This sudden loss of capability was not as a result of any changes I made to my system. I noted as I attempted to send a message via Verizon that it suddenly asked me for my password...when I typed that into the appropriate blank, it would immediately give me a second message that "Connection to server smpt.verizon.net timed out". Later on, this same message suddenly appeared when I was not involved in sending a message. At this point, I decided to do a complete virus scan of my computer (6.5 hours) and the scan found no problems. Well, I am now back to looking at my account setup. I have many questions as to whether establishing a new account will cause me to lose all of my Inbox/Saved messages etc. Should I put them in a safe place before taking such an action? I'm also in the process of researching exactly what steps must be taken to make this a successful action.. Also, I'm not sure if my making a new setup using the same information presently used would change anything. I am very uneasy to take any first step to solve this problem when the outcome could introduce more problems. Well, I believe that covers what my problem is and what my goal is...I want to be able to send and receive messages via my Verizon account. Let me know if you would like more details/information. Frog P.S. I have noticed the time out message showing up in more and different places. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
Frog wrote: As you probably noticed in one of my earlier messages, I sent a Test message to see if I was able to send a help message to this group. That message seemed to make it to this address. Thus I am now going to state my problem and hope somebody comes to my rescue. Some time ago I was required to move my server support to AOL from Verizon. I made all of the changes at that time and all has bee working without a problem until now...I presently cannot send a normal email message from my computer via SeaMonkey (mainly) or from Mozilla, All such attempts ends with a message as follows: Outgoing server (SMTP) Server Password Required box - Use Password Manager to remember the password. OK _ Cancel_ I Have not made any changes to any settings in either SeaMonkey or Mozilla since they originally set a long while ago. I then typed in my password and this is the next message that appeared. Login to account failed Login to server smtp.verizon.net with username .failed. I then clicked cancel and got this message. SeaMonkey Message - Test Status: Connected to smtp.verizon.net Progress Cancel The green bar after Progress never closes, so I clicked Cancel. I called AOL today and (after waiting for over 2 hours on the phone waiting for a human to pick up the phone, and another almost 3 hours today before someone picked up the phone. I told them about my problem and then I was told that I had a general help desk and that I needed to talk to a technician, This person then proceeded to tell me that I could not speak to a technician until I purchased a technical support plan ($14.99). After some wrangling, He said that having this plan was the only way to get technical help...he then offered my the first 30 days free. I gave in knowing that I needed help and that I could cancel the technical support plan before the end of the 30 day period. Well I wsthen on hold for another 3 hours when I finally got to speak to a technician. He said that he was going to have to delete all messages in my Inbox, Drafts, and Trash before he could work on the problem. He wanted to know whether I had a data backup plan...and I said no. the then said that I needed to backup these files before he did any work on my system. That is where he stopped helping me. (((Please note, I was on the phone yesterday evening waiting for 3 hours for somebody to help me...I was then cot off and got a recorded message that the office was closed for the day and that I could get help from the AOL help pages,) A long story for no help. I can receive downloads on my computer without any problem. I can click on web addresses and they work. Another action that did occur during my talk with the AOL technician was one of his showing me that a message could be sent through AOL and that it would work..and it did. Thus, the only thing not working on my computer is sending email messages via SeaMonkey or Mozilla. I would appreciate any help you send my way on this subject. Windows 10 - SeaMonkey 2.531 Frog I now am receiving a constant stream of messages that reads as follows: SMTP server timed out I started to searching for an answer for why this message continued to show up. I found one message that lead me to believe that some type of bug was resident on my computer. I then decided to use my virus scan (Webroot Secure Anywhere) to find the problem. I started the complete computer scan and some six and a half hours later it informed me that no problems were found. Thus, back to looking for another possible answer for my sick computer. I did not find anything having to do with SeaMonkey, but I did find an item that seemed somewhat similar to the problem I am having (but involving Thunderbird) That article is "Can't Send Email: "SMTP Server Timed Out in Thunderbird" Error": https://www.convertmbox2pst.com/blog/smtp-server-timed-out-in-thunderbird/ My going to my Verizon mail system seems to activate this problem. Any Ideas as to what is going on with my computer? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
David H. Durgee wrote: Frog wrote: David H. Durgee wrote: Frog wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default: 465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's. Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send an email? Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my password---same results. Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how to use Thunderbird with AOL. If that does not work then you fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting. I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two variations. I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 465. I attempted so send myself a message with the same results. I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. I tried to send an email test message to myself. It appeared that the message was sent...the message never showed up in my inbox. I decided at this point to restore things back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions. It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically. Setting it back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465. That may be irrelevant if you managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could send a message to and then ask if they got it? Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, you can start looking at the input side of things. I sent you a long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't retrieve messages you could have a look at that. I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is not working. I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said they would. I tried to send another test message and nothing happened. I then changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened. I then changed every thing back to the original settings. Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at it next. I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much. Frog I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password. I am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when sending a message via verizon.net. Even when I give them my password, the message fails to send. Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get Verizon on board with my password. Any help would be appreciated. Frog Lost? Your email account might have been hacked like mine was a month ago. See if you can logon to AOL web mail with it. If not, follow their guidelines for a lost or stolen password to reclaim your account. Dave My AOL account and my Verizon account have have always had two different passwords. My Verizon mail is the one I can't access to send a message. The AOL account will now let me send email messages. Frog I don't know about you, but I have had my Verizon email address for a long time. When they passed things over to AOL in 2017 I had to login to AOL in the browser with my Verizon email address and password. I suggest you try logging onto AOL in the browser with your full Verizon email address as the username with your expected password. If it works, you know you have some sort of a configuration problem. If it does not work you might have been hacked. Dave Thanks for your help message. I am about pull my hair out at this point. I am not what you would call a tech person. I was using my computer without any difficulties when all of a sudden I could not send a message via my old original Verizon path. Before I go any further, I normally use SeaMonkey for most of my computer activities. I have always been able to send
Re: Not able to send messages.
Frog wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default: 465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's. Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send an email? Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my password---same results. Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how to use Thunderbird with AOL. If that does not work then you fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting. I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two variations. I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 465. I attempted so send myself a message with the same results. I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. I tried to send an email test message to myself. It appeared that the message was sent...the message never showed up in my inbox. I decided at this point to restore things back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions. It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically. Setting it back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465. That may be irrelevant if you managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could send a message to and then ask if they got it? Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, you can start looking at the input side of things. I sent you a long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't retrieve messages you could have a look at that. I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is not working. I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said they would. I tried to send another test message and nothing happened. I then changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened. I then changed every thing back to the original settings. Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at it next. I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much. Frog I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password. I am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when sending a message via verizon.net. Even when I give them my password, the message fails to send. Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get Verizon on board with my password. Any help would be appreciated. Frog This is the message I continue to see when I attempt to send amessage: Send Message Error Sending of the message failed. As error occurred while sending mail: Could not get password for smtp.verizon.net. The message was not sent. OK Do you have any thoughts what steps must be taken to fix this problem? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
David H. Durgee wrote: Frog wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default: 465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's. Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send an email? Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my password---same results. Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how to use Thunderbird with AOL. If that does not work then you fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting. I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two variations. I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 465. I attempted so send myself a message with the same results. I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. I tried to send an email test message to myself. It appeared that the message was sent...the message never showed up in my inbox. I decided at this point to restore things back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions. It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically. Setting it back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465. That may be irrelevant if you managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could send a message to and then ask if they got it? Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, you can start looking at the input side of things. I sent you a long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't retrieve messages you could have a look at that. I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is not working. I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said they would. I tried to send another test message and nothing happened. I then changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened. I then changed every thing back to the original settings. Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at it next. I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much. Frog I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password. I am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when sending a message via verizon.net. Even when I give them my password, the message fails to send. Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get Verizon on board with my password. Any help would be appreciated. Frog Lost? Your email account might have been hacked like mine was a month ago. See if you can logon to AOL web mail with it. If not, follow their guidelines for a lost or stolen password to reclaim your account. Dave My AOL account and my Verizon account have have always had two different passwords. My Verizon mail is the one I can't access to send a message. The AOL account will now let me send email messages. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default: 465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's. Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send an email? Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my password---same results. Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how to use Thunderbird with AOL. If that does not work then you fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting. I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two variations. I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 465. I attempted so send myself a message with the same results. I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. I tried to send an email test message to myself. It appeared that the message was sent...the message never showed up in my inbox. I decided at this point to restore things back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions. It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically. Setting it back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465. That may be irrelevant if you managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could send a message to and then ask if they got it? Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, you can start looking at the input side of things. I sent you a long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't retrieve messages you could have a look at that. I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is not working. I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said they would. I tried to send another test message and nothing happened. I then changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened. I then changed every thing back to the original settings. Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at it next. I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much. Frog I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password. I am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when sending a message via verizon.net. Even when I give them my password, the message fails to send. Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get Verizon on board with my password. Any help would be appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default: 465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's. Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send an email? Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my password---same results. Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how to use Thunderbird with AOL. If that does not work then you fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting. I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two variations. I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 465. I attempted so send myself a message with the same results. I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. I tried to send an email test message to myself. It appeared that the message was sent...the message never showed up in my inbox. I decided at this point to restore things back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions. It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically. Setting it back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465. That may be irrelevant if you managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could send a message to and then ask if they got it? Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, you can start looking at the input side of things. I sent you a long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't retrieve messages you could have a look at that. I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is not working. I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said they would. I tried to send another test message and nothing happened. I then changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened. I then changed every thing back to the original settings. Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at it next. I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default: 465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's. Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send an email? Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my password---same results. Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how to use Thunderbird with AOL. If that does not work then you fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting. I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two variations. I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 465. I attempted so send myself a message with the same results. I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. I tried to send an email test message to myself. It appeared that the message was sent...the message never showed up in my inbox. I decided at this point to restore things back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
WaltS48 wrote: On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote: WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default: 465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's. Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send an email? Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my password---same results. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Not able to send messages.
WaltS48 wrote: Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;) Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) Settings. Click Edit. Add the complete email address in the User Name: field. Seems to be a problem since yesterday. Thanks Walts48 for your response. I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message didn't leave my computer. Here is the window that I edited: SMPT Server Description: My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box. Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net Port: 465 Default:465 Security and Authentication Connection security: SSL/TLS Authentication method: Normal password User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was changed to my complete email address. OK Cancel Help I hope that I made the change as you suggested. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Not able to send messages.
As you probably noticed in one of my earlier messages, I sent a Test message to see if I was able to send a help message to this group. That message seemed to make it to this address. Thus I am now going to state my problem and hope somebody comes to my rescue. Some time ago I was required to move my server support to AOL from Verizon. I made all of the changes at that time and all has bee working without a problem until now...I presently cannot send a normal email message from my computer via SeaMonkey (mainly) or from Mozilla, All such attempts ends with a message as follows: Outgoing server (SMTP) Server Password Required box - Use Password Manager to remember the password. OK _ Cancel_ I Have not made any changes to any settings in either SeaMonkey or Mozilla since they originally set a long while ago. I then typed in my password and this is the next message that appeared. Login to account failed Login to server smtp.verizon.net with username .failed. I then clicked cancel and got this message. SeaMonkey Message - Test Status: Connected to smtp.verizon.net Progress Cancel The green bar after Progress never closes, so I clicked Cancel. I called AOL today and (after waiting for over 2 hours on the phone waiting for a human to pick up the phone, and another almost 3 hours today before someone picked up the phone. I told them about my problem and then I was told that I had a general help desk and that I needed to talk to a technician, This person then proceeded to tell me that I could not speak to a technician until I purchased a technical support plan ($14.99). After some wrangling, He said that having this plan was the only way to get technical help...he then offered my the first 30 days free. I gave in knowing that I needed help and that I could cancel the technical support plan before the end of the 30 day period. Well I wsthen on hold for another 3 hours when I finally got to speak to a technician. He said that he was going to have to delete all messages in my Inbox, Drafts, and Trash before he could work on the problem. He wanted to know whether I had a data backup plan...and I said no. the then said that I needed to backup these files before he did any work on my system. That is where he stopped helping me. (((Please note, I was on the phone yesterday evening waiting for 3 hours for somebody to help me...I was then cot off and got a recorded message that the office was closed for the day and that I could get help from the AOL help pages,) A long story for no help. I can receive downloads on my computer without any problem. I can click on web addresses and they work. Another action that did occur during my talk with the AOL technician was one of his showing me that a message could be sent through AOL and that it would work..and it did. Thus, the only thing not working on my computer is sending email messages via SeaMonkey or Mozilla. I would appreciate any help you send my way on this subject. Windows 10 - SeaMonkey 2.531 Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Re: access denied
EE wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.foxnews.com/; on this server. Reference #18.b600c045.1575045417.6edeaaf0 I'm receiving the above message when trying on sea monkey to access fox news page. It's interesting that when I use fire fox on the same server it opens normally. SeaMonkey was working fine last night but not working this morning. Any ideas to help me get SeaMonkey working again would be appreciated. Frog Try HTTPS instead of HTTP. If you click the link, it does show HTTPS. The address in my address book has https, and that is the way it was entered. The access denied message came back showing http...thus, I tried entering it manually with the s added and the result was another access denied message as http. It seemed very strange to me that only the foxnews web page was the only web page that was giving me this message. I then used my WEBOOT software against the whole system and no problems were identified. Once I allowed CC Cleaner to remove the cookies and Internet Cache from my systen I entered the foxnews address as I do normally and everything worked as usual. I do not know why firefox/foxnews was not affected by anything from the start and only seamonkey was affected (the same computer/operating system was used throughout this access denied situation). Presently, both firefox and seamonkey are working normally, and that makes me very happy. I hope this information is helpful to those who responded to my help needed message. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: access denied
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.foxnews.com/; on this server. Reference #18.b600c045.1575045417.6edeaaf0 I'm receiving the above message when trying on sea monkey to access fox news page. It's interesting that when I use fire fox on the same server it opens normally. SeaMonkey was working fine last night but not working this morning. Any ideas to help me get SeaMonkey working again would be appreciated. Frog Try HTTPS instead of HTTP. I tried everything and ended up using CC Cleaner to remove all Cookies and Internet Cache from my computer. Next, I tried SeaMonkey to connect to open foxnews and it worked. I then tried firefox to open this web site and it also opened. I learned from this experience that I need to get the junk out of my computer more often in the future. Thanks for all of the responses to my call for help. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
access denied
Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.foxnews.com/; on this server. Reference #18.b600c045.1575045417.6edeaaf0 I'm receiving the above message when trying on sea monkey to access fox news page. It's interesting that when I use fire fox on the same server it opens normally. SeaMonkey was working fine last night but not working this morning. Any ideas to help me get SeaMonkey working again would be appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?
Nuno Silva wrote: On 2019-10-31, Frog wrote: I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of ??. I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or something going on with the recipient computer. It has been suggested to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple). Any thoughts how this is happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated. Is this happening with e-mails you send via a Verizon SMTP server? If so, here's what I wrote about it a couple months ago[1]: If this is what I think it is, it should only happen when you use the SMTP server from Verizon/AOL/Yahoo/... Try setting (for example, in about:config) the mail.strictly_mime preference to true, which, if I understand correctly, will make Mail use quoted-printable for outgoing messages. Bug 1435903 has some details about this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1435903 [1] Message-ID: Thanks for your quick response...very much appreciated. Yes, my server is Verizon and now AOL. I made the change you suggested in your above message. This is my first message after changing the false to true. I will now wait a few days to see if it has solved my problem. Thanks again for all of the responses sent my way. Frog P.S. I'm not sure what "Mail use quoted printable for outgoing messages" really means...care to give me a sentence or two on this topic? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Question marks (??????) are included in my messages - why?
I have been informed that my messages sometimes include a series of ??. I'm not sure why this happening and if in fact is is me or something going on with the recipient computer. It has been suggested to me that it has to do with two different operating systems being involved in the process (Microsoft and Apple). Any thoughts how this is happening and how I can stop the ?? would be appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to fix a message I see on one site.
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Frog wrote: I am seeing the following message when I visit this site --- http://castleinthesand.com/ocean-city-maryland-web-cam/ Quote Blocked by Content Security Policy This page has a content security policy that prevents it from being loaded in this way. The browser prevented this page from loading in this way because the page has a content security policy that disallows it. Unquote Operating System - Windows 10 - 64 bit Seamonkey Version - 2.49.5 I was able to see this information prior to installing SeaMonkey 2.49.5 and now is see this message. Why? The url you posted is http and not https. Add the s and it works for me. Frog Adding the s worked. Thanks for the help. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How to fix a message I see on one site.
I am seeing the following message when I visit this site --- http://castleinthesand.com/ocean-city-maryland-web-cam/ Quote Blocked by Content Security Policy This page has a content security policy that prevents it from being loaded in this way. The browser prevented this page from loading in this way because the page has a content security policy that disallows it. Unquote Operating System - Windows 10 - 64 bit Seamonkey Version - 2.49.5 I was able to see this information prior to installing SeaMonkey 2.49.5 and now is see this message. Why? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Advertising Blocker in SeaMonkey 2.49.4
I am sure that there must be some way to stop adds from showing up on my computer. I have searched the internet for a program that will put an end to my add problem with no joy. Some of what I read was above my technical ability to follow. Any suggestions appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Two SeaMonkey Mail Applications on One PC - Both designated as Default.
Frog wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/26/2018 10:46 AM, Frog wrote: I think I know the answer to my question before I ask it; but here goes my question anyhow...Is it possible to have two SeaMonkey programs connected to a single ISP that are both identified as default? I have been having some difficulty with my move from Verizon to AOL for some time. At times my mail will show up in the window designated "AOL - SeaMonkey" and at other times it will show up in "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey". I desire to have all of my mail show up in the "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey" window. Is there some way to temporarily remove default from the "AOL - SeaMonkey" mail program? I would like to take this step prior to removing the AOL - SeaMonkey from my system...thus letting me have some assurance that all of my mail is ending up in the "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey" folder. My operating system is Windows 10 with the latest version of SeaMonkey. Frog I think you really have only one E-mail application but with more than one account. What you need to do is create a filter that moves incoming AOL account messages to the Inbox of your Local Folder. If E-mail messages continue to be addressed to you at AOL, you do not want to remove the AOL account. Wait at least until you have an account at another E-mail host and have notified all your correspondents of your new E-mail address. Actually, I strongly recommend that you purchase a personalized domain and use that for your E-mail. Personalized domains do not cost much; mine costs less than $10 per year. After notifying all your correspondents of your your new E-mail address with that domain, you will never have to do that again if you ever again change your E-mail host. Just be careful (1) to renew your domain before it expires and (2) only use E-mail hosts that do not allow you to use your own domain (there are a few). Thanks for your help David...it has been a while since you came to my aid. I think I need to do some clarification of my situation with my email setup. This may get a bit long, but I don't know how else to give you a picture of my problem and what I am trying to solve...so here goes- Verizon was my long-time ISP. A while back, I was notified that my account was being handed over to AOL. I only have one account and all of my Verizon mail previously ended up in my single SeaMonkey Inbox folder. Then along came AOL to foul up my happy home. I created a new AOL method for accessing my mail. I can't remember how I set this access up, but it does not (as far as I can see) appear in the Add/Remove Programs listing...just as an ICON on my Desktop. I have two entries under This PC as follows This PC > W7_64BIT (C) > Program Files > SeaMonkey > jsloader (((jsloder is an empty folder))), and a second entry as follows This PC > W7_64BIT (C) >Program Files (x86) > SeaMonkey (folder with a number of sub folders and files attached). I have used another program (MailWasher Pro) for years that permits me to review my mail in my ISP account before downloading wanted mail to my INBOX...unwanted mail is deleted before my mail is forwarded to my INBOX). It seems like everything was working just fine when I was connected to Verizon. The addition of the AOL SeaMonkey connection has some of my mail showing up in my old SeaMonkey setup and some in my new AOL setup...not the way I want it (I want everything in my one and only original SeaMonkey INBOX). I noticed today that both my old Verizon setup and the new AOL setup employs SeaMonkey as my access to my mail...and both are designated as default. Now what I am inclined to do is as follows: Remove this entry from the Program Files listing: This PC > W7_64BIT (C) > Program Files > SeaMonkey > jsloader (((Jsloder is an empty folder))) Amend the desktop entry as follows: Change the Identification for the desktop ICON from AOL (7) to AOL Mail Change (under the properties for this ICON) the URL from https://mail.aol.com.webmail-std/en-os/suite to https://xyzmail.aol.com.webmail-std/en-os/suite I am contemplating consideration of the above changes as a way of overcoming two separate SeaMonkey programs, both operating as default, as a way to see if all of my mail once again shows up in my original SeaMonkey INBOX. If it works, I will then delete the AOL Mail ICON from the desktop. I told you that it was going to get a little long, but I tried to communicate my situation the best I know how. I look forward to your response when you have time. Thanks again for your help. Frog P.S. I just thought of another possibility for solving my problem...and that is, make sure that I am not signed in to my AOL account when downloading mail. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Two SeaMonkey Mail Applications on One PC - Both designated as Default.
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/26/2018 10:46 AM, Frog wrote: I think I know the answer to my question before I ask it; but here goes my question anyhow...Is it possible to have two SeaMonkey programs connected to a single ISP that are both identified as default? I have been having some difficulty with my move from Verizon to AOL for some time. At times my mail will show up in the window designated "AOL - SeaMonkey" and at other times it will show up in "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey". I desire to have all of my mail show up in the "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey" window. Is there some way to temporarily remove default from the "AOL - SeaMonkey" mail program? I would like to take this step prior to removing the AOL - SeaMonkey from my system...thus letting me have some assurance that all of my mail is ending up in the "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey" folder. My operating system is Windows 10 with the latest version of SeaMonkey. Frog I think you really have only one E-mail application but with more than one account. What you need to do is create a filter that moves incoming AOL account messages to the Inbox of your Local Folder. If E-mail messages continue to be addressed to you at AOL, you do not want to remove the AOL account. Wait at least until you have an account at another E-mail host and have notified all your correspondents of your new E-mail address. Actually, I strongly recommend that you purchase a personalized domain and use that for your E-mail. Personalized domains do not cost much; mine costs less than $10 per year. After notifying all your correspondents of your your new E-mail address with that domain, you will never have to do that again if you ever again change your E-mail host. Just be careful (1) to renew your domain before it expires and (2) only use E-mail hosts that do not allow you to use your own domain (there are a few). Thanks for your help David...it has been a while since you came to my aid. I think I need to do some clarification of my situation with my email setup. This may get a bit long, but I don't know how else to give you a picture of my problem and what I am trying to solve...so here goes- Verizon was my long-time ISP. A while back, I was notified that my account was being handed over to AOL. I only have one account and all of my Verizon mail previously ended up in my single SeaMonkey Inbox folder. Then along came AOL to foul up my happy home. I created a new AOL method for accessing my mail. I can't remember how I set this access up, but it does not (as far as I can see) appear in the Add/Remove Programs listing...just as an ICON on my Desktop. I have two entries under This PC as follows This PC > W7_64BIT (C) > Program Files > SeaMonkey > jsloader (((jsloder is an empty folder))), and a second entry as follows This PC > W7_64BIT (C) >Program Files (x86) > SeaMonkey (folder with a number of sub folders and files attached). I have used another program (MailWasher Pro) for years that permits me to review my mail in my ISP account before downloading wanted mail to my INBOX...unwanted mail is deleted before my mail is forwarded to my INBOX). It seems like everything was working just fine when I was connected to Verizon. The addition of the AOL SeaMonkey connection has some of my mail showing up in my old SeaMonkey setup and some in my new AOL setup...not the way I want it (I want everything in my one and only original SeaMonkey INBOX). I noticed today that both my old Verizon setup and the new AOL setup employs SeaMonkey as my access to my mail...and both are designated as default. Now what I am inclined to do is as follows: Remove this entry from the Program Files listing: This PC > W7_64BIT (C) > Program Files > SeaMonkey > jsloader (((Jsloder is an empty folder))) Amend the desktop entry as follows: Change the Identification for the desktop ICON from AOL (7) to AOL Mail Change (under the properties for this ICON) the URL from https://mail.aol.com.webmail-std/en-os/suite to https://xyzmail.aol.com.webmail-std/en-os/suite I am contemplating consideration of the above changes as a way of overcoming two separate SeaMonkey programs, both operating as default, as a way to see if all of my mail once again shows up in my original SeaMonkey INBOX. If it works, I will then delete the AOL Mail ICON from the desktop. I told you that it was going to get a little long, but I tried to communicate my situation the best I know how. I look forward to your response when you have time. Thanks again for your help. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Two SeaMonkey Mail Applications on One PC - Both designated as Default.
I think I know the answer to my question before I ask it; but here goes my question anyhow...Is it possible to have two SeaMonkey programs connected to a single ISP that are both identified as default? I have been having some difficulty with my move from Verizon to AOL for some time. At times my mail will show up in the window designated "AOL - SeaMonkey" and at other times it will show up in "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey". I desire to have all of my mail show up in the "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey" window. Is there some way to temporarily remove default from the "AOL - SeaMonkey" mail program? I would like to take this step prior to removing the AOL - SeaMonkey from my system...thus letting me have some assurance that all of my mail is ending up in the "Inbox - Local Folder - SeaMonkey" folder. My operating system is Windows 10 with the latest version of SeaMonkey. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: System Security Question
WaltS48 wrote: On 7/20/18 7:44 PM, Lee wrote: On 7/20/18, WaltS48 wrote: On 7/18/18 6:13 PM, Frog wrote: Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender Security on a Windows 10 system. Webroot is currently protecting my system and Windows Defender is turned off. Is this the way my system settings should be configured? Frog I just came across this and thought it might interest you. <https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-defender-is-the-best-windows-10-antivirus-522035.shtml> "German institute AV-TEST’s latest research shows that Windows Defender has improved detection capabilities and it now blocks most of the known and zero-day malware on Windows 10." Oopsie.. the reviewer left off the bit about how the 'German institute AV-TEST' doesn't rate it as a top product: https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/ Lee You left off the part that the Webroot Secure Anywhere Security doesn't even appear as a product on that list. Tanks to all (WaltS4, Paul in Houston, TX, and Lee) for your words of wisdom. I thought it was a bad thing to have two virus scan applications active simultaneously on a system...I only had Webroot active on my system. I am not plugging any software programs but...I have had Webroot on my systems for over five years without a single problem. I thought it would be interesting (when time permits) to turn Webroot off temporarily and then run a Windows Defender full scan against my system. Well, thanks again for your help...it was much appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
System Security Question
Question about Webroot Secure Anywhere Security and Windows Defender Security on a Windows 10 system. Webroot is currently protecting my system and Windows Defender is turned off. Is this the way my system settings should be configured? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages with attachments being deleted.
Ray_Net wrote: Frog wrote on 09-07-18 23:00: Frog wrote: Any message sent my way that includes an attachment is being deleted before it arrives on my computer. All messages that do not have an attachment are arriving okay. Here is what I'm looking at in the way of my computer system/set-up: I am using a desktop computer. I am using Windows 10 Home 1 have 400 GB of Ram My ISP is AOL. My browser is SeaMonkey version 2.49.3 I also employ an application names MailWasher Pro, version 7.11.0 My computer virus scan software is WebRoot Secure Anywhere version 9,0,20,31 Yesterday, I had my daughter send me a message with an attachment---I never saw her message (either in my SeaMonkey mail or in MailWasher). I next saw a message (with an attachment)in MailWasher from a source that was identified by me as a Friend. I next washed the rest of my mail and downloaded the good items to my computer. The message with the attachment did not appear in my SeaMonkey Inbox. I could not find a trace of this message in the MailWasher Recycle Folder or in an AOL located files. I then observed another message in MailWasher that had an attachment. I decided to not take any action in MailWasher relative to this message...I simply went to SeaMonkey and downloaded my messages (wanted and unwanted) from my SeaMonkey application. The message that had an attachment was not in my download. This loss of messages, ones having attachments, has been going on for some time. I have gone through MailWasher from one end to the other searching for a reason for these deletions. I sent a message to AOL and they have not responded. This problem started about the same time that I installed SeaMonkey version 2.49.3...about the time that I upgraded MailWasher from Free to Pro...and about the time that my Windows 10 software was updated with a major upgrade. I'm looking for help with finding a solution for this problem. Thanks in advance for any help sent my way. Frog Additional Information I continued my search today for the reason why wanted messages with attachments were not arriving in my SeaMonkey mail. Interestingly, I found some of these messages were sent to my never used AOL browser as trash. This information indicates to me that my virus scan software is not deleting these messages...that software at AOL is not deleting these messages...and now I believe my lost message problem is located either in SeaMonkey or MailWasher. I continue to need help with this problem. Frog You may try uninstalling MailWasher ... I think...I hope the solution to my problem has been found. I contacted AOL about my situation...mainly I asked if a filter was placed on my mail. Here is what they said... Please note that these situations often occur when an email filter is preventing all incoming emails from reaching the Inbox folder. These filters are usually changed when an AOL account was hacked or compromised. To resolve this, we have reset the server settings associated to your account that may have been changed if your account was compromised and you should be receiving emails normally from now on. Please sign out and back in for the changes to take full effect. So far, with fingers crossed, I am once again receiving incoming messages with attachments in my inbox. I know of no hacking or compromise of my account...or that any filter was ever placed on my account. Thanks for the suggestions. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Messages with attachments being deleted.
Frog wrote: Any message sent my way that includes an attachment is being deleted before it arrives on my computer. All messages that do not have an attachment are arriving okay. Here is what I'm looking at in the way of my computer system/set-up: I am using a desktop computer. I am using Windows 10 Home 1 have 400 GB of Ram My ISP is AOL. My browser is SeaMonkey version 2.49.3 I also employ an application names MailWasher Pro, version 7.11.0 My computer virus scan software is WebRoot Secure Anywhere version 9,0,20,31 Yesterday, I had my daughter send me a message with an attachment---I never saw her message (either in my SeaMonkey mail or in MailWasher). I next saw a message (with an attachment)in MailWasher from a source that was identified by me as a Friend. I next washed the rest of my mail and downloaded the good items to my computer. The message with the attachment did not appear in my SeaMonkey Inbox. I could not find a trace of this message in the MailWasher Recycle Folder or in an AOL located files. I then observed another message in MailWasher that had an attachment. I decided to not take any action in MailWasher relative to this message...I simply went to SeaMonkey and downloaded my messages (wanted and unwanted) from my SeaMonkey application. The message that had an attachment was not in my download. This loss of messages, ones having attachments, has been going on for some time. I have gone through MailWasher from one end to the other searching for a reason for these deletions. I sent a message to AOL and they have not responded. This problem started about the same time that I installed SeaMonkey version 2.49.3...about the time that I upgraded MailWasher from Free to Pro...and about the time that my Windows 10 software was updated with a major upgrade. I'm looking for help with finding a solution for this problem. Thanks in advance for any help sent my way. Frog Additional Information I continued my search today for the reason why wanted messages with attachments were not arriving in my SeaMonkey mail. Interestingly, I found some of these messages were sent to my never used AOL browser as trash. This information indicates to me that my virus scan software is not deleting these messages...that software at AOL is not deleting these messages...and now I believe my lost message problem is located either in SeaMonkey or MailWasher. I continue to need help with this problem. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Messages with attachments being deleted.
Any message sent my way that includes an attachment is being deleted before it arrives on my computer. All messages that do not have an attachment are arriving okay. Here is what I'm looking at in the way of my computer system/set-up: I am using a desktop computer. I am using Windows 10 Home 1 have 400 GB of Ram My ISP is AOL. My browser is SeaMonkey version 2.49.3 I also employ an application names MailWasher Pro, version 7.11.0 My computer virus scan software is WebRoot Secure Anywhere version 9,0,20,31 Yesterday, I had my daughter send me a message with an attachment---I never saw her message (either in my SeaMonkey mail or in MailWasher). I next saw a message (with an attachment)in MailWasher from a source that was identified by me as a Friend. I next washed the rest of my mail and downloaded the good items to my computer. The message with the attachment did not appear in my SeaMonkey Inbox. I could not find a trace of this message in the MailWasher Recycle Folder or in an AOL located files. I then observed another message in MailWasher that had an attachment. I decided to not take any action in MailWasher relative to this message...I simply went to SeaMonkey and downloaded my messages (wanted and unwanted) from my SeaMonkey application. The message that had an attachment was not in my download. This loss of messages, ones having attachments, has been going on for some time. I have gone through MailWasher from one end to the other searching for a reason for these deletions. I sent a message to AOL and they have not responded. This problem started about the same time that I installed SeaMonkey version 2.49.3...about the time that I upgraded MailWasher from Free to Pro...and about the time that my Windows 10 software was updated with a major upgrade. I'm looking for help with finding a solution for this problem. Thanks in advance for any help sent my way. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox is Protected
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frog wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frog wrote: Believe it or not---the problem has been solved. The password I needed to enter my Inbox was not connected to my home Inbox but an Inbox located at my CPA. CPA? Certified Public Accountant? Yes Okay more confused by that. How can your "Inbox located at my CPA"? Do you mean another email account, IMAP, physically somehow, ...? I received an email message from my CPA that had two attachments. I got the request for a password when I attempted to open the two attachments. Next, after not knowing the password for my Inbox, I got in touch with my CPA about this matter and a password was made known to me...the password open a file on a computer located in the office of the CPA. I then put the password in the window as requested and there were my two attachments. I now have both attachments downloaded to my computer...thus, all is well. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox is Protected
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frog wrote: Believe it or not---the problem has been solved. The password I needed to enter my Inbox was not connected to my home Inbox but an Inbox located at my CPA. CPA? Certified Public Accountant? Yes ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox is Protected
Frog wrote: I upgraded SeaMonkey to 2.49.1 yesterday. Now I am getting the following message: "Inbox is protected. Please enter a Document Open Password." I have never established such a password on any system that I have ever owned. How do I fix this problem? Windows 10 Frog Believe it or not---the problem has been solved. The password I needed to enter my Inbox was not connected to my home Inbox but an Inbox located at my CPA. All is well with my world at this point. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Inbox is Protected
I upgraded SeaMonkey to 2.49.1 yesterday. Now I am getting the following message: "Inbox is protected. Please enter a Document Open Password." I have never established such a password on any system that I have ever owned. How do I fix this problem? Windows 10 Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46
Bill Spikowski wrote: Frog wrote: Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established? What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages? Create a new folder, name it something like 'Inbox, needs attention' -- then move all the messages in the regular inbox to this new folder. This may take some time, but it will clear your regular inbox. Thanks Bill for your reply to my message. I presently am going message by message to remove those I don't think I need to keep. It would save a lot of time to simply create a new folder under Local Folders for the messages presently located in my Inbox...thus, I could simply move each message to this folder without having to read it first before making a decision (based on content) to either delete or keep a message. Am I likely to hit another computer generated message that a folder under Local Folders is Full? Sorry for my delay in responding to your message...it was much appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46
Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had just received on our computer. I thought to myself that somehow the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences. I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set. Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP. Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message? Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem? Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established? What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages? I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this problem. Please understand, while preparing your response to my call for help, that my technical skill are limited at best. Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated. Frog Frog, is it possible that you recently moved your e-mail account data from one computer to another using CD's?? If so, this usually results in the files being marked as "Read Only" so SM, logically, is unable to write to those files. Yes, my inbox files have been routinely moved from my older computers to newer ones...starting from the old Netscape days to today. This is what caused me to think it was a good time to do a royal house cleaning of my Inbox...a very time consuming process to say the least. I still believe it should be possible to re-designate my present Inbox message folder to "Old" and open a new folder. Is it possible to take this type of action and how do I do this? I think the process I am following now will be complete some time around my 100th birthday. In Windows Explorer, locate your e-mail account and right click on one of the files/folders and check its Properties is not set to "Read Only". I was moved from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some months ago...I now understand that Windows Explorer in now File Explorer. If so, I am not sure how to get to get to my e-mail account to click on one of the files/folders. I can go to File Explorer and can find Inbox listed there...but I can't figure out how to enter the Inbox to see incoming/outgoing etc. under this heading like I once could under Windows Explorer. I think that the messages are not Read Only, however, as they appear as a mixture of Read and Not Read in SeaMonkey when I am in am using the Inbox. In any event, I was unable to follow the Windows Explorer path you suggested. Hello Daniel...it has been some time since our last contact. I'm sorry that I didn't reply to your message sooner. It seems that I need multiples of me in order to keep up with my responsibilities right now. I hope things will settle down somewhat after the start of the new year...I certainly hope that will be the case. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46
Felix Miata wrote: Frog composed on 2017-12-12 01:17 (UTC-0500): My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had just received on our computer. I thought to myself that somehow the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences. I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set. Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP. Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message? I don't think so, unless disk space is exhausted where inbox lives. Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem? I have to think it could well be related. Many individual spams are getting awfully big. AOL's inbox space might not be big enough to hold messages for the specified length of time. If she's leaving messages on server for 30 days, try cutting back to 10 or 14. Check with AOL if inbox size can be increased. If none are being left on server yet AOL inbox is full, something must be wrong either with SM or AOL. I have two POP mail accounts, one set to leave on server 11 days, the other 25. The one set to 11 is using about 25MB. The one set to 25 is only using about 5MB, but I just reduced it from around 37MB by deleting all emails 3 digits large, which were running e.g. 159, 164, 241 & 316 KB. How often does she compact folders? I do it daily. If she never does, maybe doing it is overdue, especially if triple digit spams have been routinely reaching it. Thanks Felix for your reply. I do check my mail several times a day so I don't think the build-up is located at AOL. As I stated earlier, my preferences are set to remove my messages from my ISP when they are downloaded to my computer. I have resolved that my problem must have to do with the volume of messages stored in my Inbox...thus, I am now in the throws of doing a thorough house cleaning of my Inbox. I hope this going to solve my problem. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this subject...I have been involved with Christmas shopping (wife is handicapped)...church activities...and undergoing a complete physical...among other seasonal activities. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Inbox Full Message - SeaMonkey 2.46
My wife came to me with a question about a "Full Inbox" message she had just received on our computer. I thought to myself that somehow the "leave messages on server" had somehow been checked in the Preferences. I checked the "Server Settings" and found that it was properly set. Yes, our local inbox has many messages stored in it and it needs a good house cleaning...which I intend to do ASAP. Will the Local Inbox generate a "Full Inbox" message? Everything was working just fine until I was recently moved from Verizon to AOL...could this be the cause of my problem? Can the present Inbox be given a different file name (allowing it to be accessed when needed) and a new local inbox file be established? What is a good way of keep the data that is currently in the present inbox while at the same time having a empty inbox for new messages? I'm sure that somebody has a quick fix for how to best deal with this problem. Please understand, while preparing your response to my call for help, that my technical skill are limited at best. Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I can't access a web CAM and don't understand why.
WaltS48 wrote: Frog wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/10/2017 12:28 PM, Frog wrote: I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for years and for unknown reasons it now does not open. The web address for this web cam is: http://www.oceangallery.com/ I do see a black rectangle where I believe the cam display should located. This black rectangle has the following message displaced in it: can't assign to properties of (new Boolean(true)): not an object This message does not communicate with me...Help! Windows 10 Frog I get the same problem. Have you tried contacting the Web site at <i...@oceangallery.com>? Since I am in California, I am not really interested. I have attempted to contact the web site with no answer forthcoming. Thanks Dave for your response. Frog in Maryland If they respond, ask them to rewrite the site in modern web code. Seriously? "" I'll test it in Firefox, but it didn't work for me. Even with ABP disabled. SM 2.49.1. Well, I kept trying (using an older version of Internet Explorer) until I found an address that does work. http://www.ocbound.com/ocean-gallery-boardwalk-webcam This address also works in SeaMonkey 2.46. I really don't know why the original address does not work...no answer as of yet from my original message to the web site. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I can't access a web CAM and don't understand why.
Keith N. McKenna wrote: On 11/10/2017 3:28 PM, Frog wrote: I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for years and for unknown reasons it now does not open. The web address for this web cam is: http://www.oceangallery.com/ I do see a black rectangle where I believe the cam display should located. This black rectangle has the following message displaced in it: can't assign to properties of (new Boolean(true)): not an object This message does not communicate with me...Help! Windows 10 Frog Works fine for me with Windows 10 and SeaMonkey 2.49.1 Regards Keith I have now attempted gain access to this CAM on SeaMonkey 2.46, Firefox 56.0.2, and via https://www.msn.com/?ocid=mailsignout using SeaMonkey 2.46 and the CAM didn't open on any of the three attempts. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I can't access a web CAM and don't understand why.
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/10/2017 12:28 PM, Frog wrote: I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for years and for unknown reasons it now does not open. The web address for this web cam is: http://www.oceangallery.com/ I do see a black rectangle where I believe the cam display should located. This black rectangle has the following message displaced in it: can't assign to properties of (new Boolean(true)): not an object This message does not communicate with me...Help! Windows 10 Frog I get the same problem. Have you tried contacting the Web site at <i...@oceangallery.com>? Since I am in California, I am not really interested. I have attempted to contact the web site with no answer forthcoming. Thanks Dave for your response. Frog in Maryland ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
I can't access a web CAM and don't understand why.
I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for years and for unknown reasons it now does not open. The web address for this web cam is: http://www.oceangallery.com/ I do see a black rectangle where I believe the cam display should located. This black rectangle has the following message displaced in it: can't assign to properties of (new Boolean(true)): not an object This message does not communicate with me...Help! Windows 10 Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AOL Help Needed.
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: David E. Ross wrote: In the past, AOL required that users install AOL's own E-mail application because AOL's servers did not comply with either IMAP or POP3/SMTP. This might no longer be the case. Correct, they don't. I am not familiar with IMAP setups. If you are attempting to use POP3/SMTP, however, you might try the following: ... I got the same message as the OP, and it doesn't say you can't use your current settings, it says you have until Nov. 7 to fix whatever it is that's bothering them. I've been using my current settings without trouble since the takeover, and I'm damned if I can see how they don't comply with AOHell's requirements. Here's my response to them: From what I can tell, my settings do conform to your requirements. What is it that you want me to change? Current settings: POP3: pop.verizon.net, port 995, SSL/TLS, normal password SMTP: smtp.verizon.net, port 465, SSL/TLS, normal password Do you want encrypted passwords? Or do you have a faulty routine that generates false error messages? Thanks Paul for your help. I have also been using my original Verizon settings with no sign of difficulty. I interpreted the AOL message as a warning that if I didn't do something before Nov 7...my connection with the internet would not work. I sure hope you are right in your interpretation of AOL's message. I know that I will be out of town for some days starting tomorrow and I would hate to return to an internet connection does not work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: AOL Help Needed.
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/15/2017 2:12 PM, Frog wrote: This thing of moving from Verizon to AOL is about to drive me completely crazy. I received the following message from AOL and I have no idea how to make the Sea Monkey and Thunderbird changes that they want me to make. Here is a quote of that message- We hope you are enjoying your improved email experience since switching to AOL. We are committed to protecting the privacy and security of our customers so we're writing to inform you that your current third party email application is not using the latest, secure mail connection settings. In order to continue sending and receiving your verizon.net mail via your third party email application, you must update your connection settings by November 7, 2017. Please visit our help site for instructions on how to update your settings. https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do-i-set-up-other-email-applications-to-send-and-receive-my-verizon-net-mail?ncid=mbr_comdefeml0002 To avoid having to make changes in the future and to ensure you are using up-to-date security settings, we recommend that you download the AOL app or use mail.aol.com to send and receive your AOL Mail. For more information, visit our FAQ page. I use Sea Monkey for my mail...and have times I have used Thunderbird for my mail at times in order to learn this software. What specifically do I need to do to make the changes they are requesting? Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated. Frog In the past, AOL required that users install AOL's own E-mail application because AOL's servers did not comply with either IMAP or POP3/SMTP. This might no longer be the case. I am not familiar with IMAP setups. If you are attempting to use POP3/SMTP, however, you might try the following: 1. Open the Account Settings window. On the Thunderbird menu bar, that is [Tools > Account Settings]. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, that is [Window > Mail & Newsgroups] and then [Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings]. 2. On the left side of the Account Settings window, select the mail account in question. If the account is collapsed, expand it. (In Thunderbird, that involves selecting the > to make it a v.) 3. Select Server Settings. 4. On the Server Settings pane, for "Connection security" (under Security Settings), select SSL/TLS from the selection list. 5. Go to the bottom of the left side of the Account Settings window. (This might require scrolling down.) Select Outgoing Server (SMTP). 6. In the window that lists your E-mail accounts, select the mail account in question and then select the Edit button. 7. In the SMTP Server window, for "Connection security" (under Security and Authentication), select SSL/TLS from the selection list. 8. Select the OK buttons to close all the setup windows. If you still have a problem receiving (steps 2-4) or sending (steps 5-7) E-mail, try STARTTLS in place of SSL/TLS. I have one E-mail account where sending is STARTTLS but receiving is SSL/TLS. Thus, you should change only the setting for the one direction that remains a problem. --- Tanks David for coming to my rescue. I checked all of the settings included in your message and I am not able to send a test message to myself..I get a Log in screen with the statement smtp.verizon.net failed. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
AOL Help Needed.
This thing of moving from Verizon to AOL is about to drive me completely crazy. I received the following message from AOL and I have no idea how to make the Sea Monkey and Thunderbird changes that they want me to make. Here is a quote of that message- We hope you are enjoying your improved email experience since switching to AOL. We are committed to protecting the privacy and security of our customers so we're writing to inform you that your current third party email application is not using the latest, secure mail connection settings. In order to continue sending and receiving your verizon.net mail via your third party email application, you must update your connection settings by November 7, 2017. Please visit our help site for instructions on how to update your settings. https://help.aol.com/articles/how-do-i-set-up-other-email-applications-to-send-and-receive-my-verizon-net-mail?ncid=mbr_comdefeml0002 To avoid having to make changes in the future and to ensure you are using up-to-date security settings, we recommend that you download the AOL app or use mail.aol.com to send and receive your AOL Mail. For more information, visit our FAQ page. I use Sea Monkey for my mail...and have times I have used Thunderbird for my mail at times in order to learn this software. What specifically do I need to do to make the changes they are requesting? Any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Windows XP wifi not connecting to the internet...helo!
I have attempted to connect a Sony laptop computer to the internet with no success. I can, however, connect with my printer with no problems occuring. I have gone to Wireless Network Connections as clicked "Refresh network list" and I receive as message as follows "No wireless networks were found in range". This seems very odd since I have another XP computer just three feet from this laptop and it connects without any difficulty. I have conducted this search with and without the direct cable connection between the laptop and the router...with the same results. I can connect to the internet via the cable connection between the computer and the router. I created a new connection via of the Wireless Network Setup Wizard and the new connection and it did not work without the cable being connected to the computer and the router. I will be very grateful for any help or suggestions sent my way for solving this problem. Sony Laptop Computer Windows XP Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with Verizon moving to AOL
WaltS48 wrote: On 3/30/17 4:43 PM, Frog wrote: I am using SeaMonkey and Windows 10 on my desktop computer. I received a message from Verizon telling me that they will no longer provide verizon.net email service after April 14, 2017. I was then given two options to choose from as follows: 1. Click here (in blue letters) to sign into your verizon.net email account. 2. Simply select Keep verizon.net email address or Try any other email provider to complete setup. By choosing option 1 you will: Keep your verizon.net email address Migrate to AOL Mail Retain email, contacts and calendar(s) automatically. By choosing option 2 you will: No longer be able to use your current verizon.net email address Establish an account with a mail provider of your choosing like Outlook.com or Gmail Manually move your email, contacts and calendar(s) Question - What if you click here in option 1 and find that there is no place to select ""Keep verizon.net email account". I hope somebody else has made this change and can help me make this transition. Help! I made the migration and it was painless. Just login to your My Verizon web mail follow the instructions. I even read a post in the alt.online-service.verizon newsgroup on Usenet where one user kept his Verizon password when they got to the Enter New Password field and therefore didn't need to change the password in his email client. I did use a new password. When I opened my SeaMonkey (also my Thunderbird's) I was prompted for the new one when checking for mail and when sending mail. No other settings change. Here are a couple links that may be of help. <https://www.verizon.com/support/residential/email/migrations.htm> <https://help.aol.com/articles/verizon-move-to-aol-mail-faq> Thanks for coming to my aid. I continue to have my same problem. Let me tell you what I am doing and maybe you can analyze what I am doing wrong. I received the Verizon notification via my SeaMonkey browser. I click "here" in that message and it takes me to a Verizon login pages where I am asked for mu username, then for a word that I used as a part of my sign-in, and then for my pass word. I am then logged in to a Verizon mail page. There is nothing there that allows me to select anything that looks like Keep your verizon.net email address >> Migrate to AOL Mail >> Retain email, contacts and calendar(s) automatically. I have looked everywhere for how to complete the next step. Does this help clarify the problem I am having? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem with Verizon moving to AOL
I am using SeaMonkey and Windows 10 on my desktop computer. I received a message from Verizon telling me that they will no longer provide verizon.net email service after April 14, 2017. I was then given two options to choose from as follows: 1. Click here (in blue letters) to sign into your verizon.net email account. 2. Simply select Keep verizon.net email address or Try any other email provider to complete setup. By choosing option 1 you will: Keep your verizon.net email address Migrate to AOL Mail Retain email, contacts and calendar(s) automatically. By choosing option 2 you will: No longer be able to use your current verizon.net email address Establish an account with a mail provider of your choosing like Outlook.com or Gmail Manually move your email, contacts and calendar(s) Question - What if you click here in option 1 and find that there is no place to select ""Keep verizon.net email account". I hope somebody else has made this change and can help me make this transition. Help! P.S.FYI, I did contact Verizon with this question and they could not help me with making this Verizon to AOL transition. They even took control of my system in an attempt to make the transition...with no luck. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with Microsoft Edge
WaltS48 wrote: On 3/15/17 8:16 PM, Frog wrote: I made the move from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some time ago. I have not been unable (since that move) to stop Windows Edge from acting like it is my default...it opens everything I click on in SeaMonkey. Mow that Verizon and AOL are in the throws of officially becoming one, I am now told that I must verify that I want to continue using Verizon as my internet provider. I think I have responded affirmatively to remain with Verizon...waiting for confirmation from Verizon at this time. Well I immediately logged in to my Verizon account only to see it open my Verizon account with Outlook. How do I make my Verizon account work totally with SeaMonkey like it did before Windows 10 invaded my computer? SeaMonkey is marked in Preferences as my default browser. Is there some magic way of telling Microsoft Edge to stop acting like it is my default browser? See if this is any help. <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/instantanswers/5d136adf-2571-b11a-4c54-9d5bfdf195ea/change-default-programs-in-windows-10> Thank you for your help. I made the changes to Microsoft Edge settings as suggested in the message and SeaMonkey seems to be working as it did prior to Windows 10. I will be using the system tomorrow and will see if everything is performing as usual in SeaMonkey. I will let you know if I run into any problems...which I don't anticipate. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Problem with Microsoft Edge
I made the move from Windows 7 to Windows 10 some time ago. I have not been unable (since that move) to stop Windows Edge from acting like it is my default...it opens everything I click on in SeaMonkey. Mow that Verizon and AOL are in the throws of officially becoming one, I am now told that I must verify that I want to continue using Verizon as my internet provider. I think I have responded affirmatively to remain with Verizon...waiting for confirmation from Verizon at this time. Well I immediately logged in to my Verizon account only to see it open my Verizon account with Outlook. How do I make my Verizon account work totally with SeaMonkey like it did before Windows 10 invaded my computer? SeaMonkey is marked in Preferences as my default browser. Is there some magic way of telling Microsoft Edge to stop acting like it is my default browser? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Preference - Internet Search
I presently have two search engines (Google and DuckDuckGo)listed under Preference - Internet Search. Is there some method for both (or more than one) search engine to appear when "Search" is clicked on the browser window? Windows 10 - SeaMonkey 2.40 Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send message problems-
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Frog wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: When message sending fails, do you get an error message? If so, exactly what is it, and if you can tell, who's it from? Or does the process just stall and fail to complete? Here is what happens when I click send and wait some number of seconds for the message go to my ISP. New is displayed as follows: Login Failed ? Login to server smtp.version.net failed. Retry_ Enter new Password_ Cancel_ Retry ends with some additional seconds passing and the same message as above reappearing. Entering my password starts the send process over ending with the Login Failed window reappearing. In that case, you have an authentication failure -- the password you're sending is not exactly the password the server wants to see. Double-check every character, and remember that it's case sensitive -- "Password" is different from "password" is different from "PaSsWoRd." And punctuation must also match exactly. Computers are stupid -- they only see what you did type, not what you meant to type. If SeaMonkey is remembering the password for you, you can see it here: Click the button "Show Passwords" at the lower right and tell SM yes, you really do want to show them (it'll go back to hiding them as soon as you close the window). Then enter "verizon" in the search window at upper left and you should see several entries, one of them like this: smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net) yourusername yourpassword ... You may find it convenient to type out the password in Notepad so you can see it and double-check it; then copy/paste it when SM prompts you during the sending process. If this doesn't work, double-check with your ISP what password their SMTP server wants to see. It might not be what you think it is. Good News...I can now send messages again. I decided to return to Verizon for another settings verification. Another check of my system (by the Verizon tech) found nothing wrong with my settings. The tech told me up front that she had little knowledge or experience with SeaMonkey or Thunderbird. After a number of small Account Setting changes in the Thunderbird Account Settings...followed each time by a failed attempt to send a message, she decided to change the the User Name from my e-mail address (f...@verizon.net (not my real e-mail address) to just frog (deleting @verizon.net). Another test message was sent and it worked. She then made the same change to my SeaMonkey Account Settings and it now works. I'm not sure what made this change necessary on three separate computers (not networked) at the same time. I believe something was changed at Verizon that caused this problem from the start. Thanks to all for your help and guidance. You pointed me in the right direction to solve my problem. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send message problems-
Paul, It is always good to have your help with another of my problems. I have included my comments in your message below. Frog Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Frog wrote: I am not able to send e-mail messages for some reason (Windows 7). This problem started yesterday at noon and continues at this time. All other internet actions are normal. I called my ISP for help and I thought the problem was resolved---he installed a temporary browser on my system and it was able to send messages to my carrier. I thought all was well at that point---it was not as I cannot send messages from either SeaMonkey or Thunderbird. I next tried to send a message from my laptop (Windows XP) using SeaMonkey and then Thunderbird and that does not work either. My amateur fix-it skills tells me that my problem may be located at my ISP. What should or can I do to fix this send message problem? If different computers and different programs are affected, it's probably not the computers or their settings -- unless they both installed the same update. It's most likely some change to your ISP's SMTP configuration or settings. For example, they may suddenly require a different form of security or authentication than they did before. Ask the tech to specify all the settings they currently require for OUTgoing mail (SMTP): • Server name (make sure spelling and punctuation are exactly correct) • Port (three-digit number such as 465) • Connection security (None, STARTTLS, SSL/TLS) • Authentication method (None, normal password, encrypted password, Kerberos/GSSAPI, NTLM, Oauth2) • Username (usually your full email address, but some ISPs prefer just the prefix) I again got in contact with my ISP as you suggested. The technician did several things during this call as follows: -He took control of my computer while I watched what he was doing. -He then checked all of my setting for SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. All of these settings were found to be the right settings. -He then added a new browser to my system (the same one that was added during my earlier visit with my ISP). It again worked without any problems. -He then attempted to send a test message via SeaMonkey and then Thunderbird. Neither of these attempts worked. -He then added Windows Live Mail to my system. This browser worked subsequent to installing the appropriate settings. -He rechecked all of my SeaMonkey and Timberline settings and assured me that they were all correct. -He then told me that there was nothing more he could do to help me with my problem. It was his opinion that my problems are being caused by the SeaMonkey and Timberline software. These settings can be found at Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings | Outgoing Server (SMTP), at the very bottom of the list of accounts. Choose your SMTP server and click "Edit." Click "OK" when done to save the new settings, or "Cancel" to discard them. If they offer a choice between tighter and looser security, ask for the settings for tighter security; it's better for your privacy. If you use two or more SMTP servers, make sure each of your mail accounts points to the correct one (some ISPs accept mail only from their own subscribers). I only use one SMTP server. Under Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings | , select the Outgoing Server (SMTP) at the bottom of the dialog. As a test, you might also try switching to a different SMTP server to see if you can send mail through that one. A temporary browser sending messages by webmail isn't a solution, it's a workaround. It doesn't use SMTP. Now I am stuck with SeaMonkey and Timberline not working. I have two thoughts as what actions to take next. The actions are: -Remove/re-install SeaMonkey and/or Thunderbird software from my system (VIA the Add/Remove process). Of course I would allow the remove process to leave files when asked. -Check to see if an update was made to my WebRoot software that might have caused this problem. I'm lost after these actions. Any help/suggestions? Thanks again for all of your help over the years. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send message problems-
Frog wrote: I am not able to send e-mail messages for some reason (Windows 7). This problem started yesterday at noon and continues at this time. All other internet actions are normal. I called my ISP for help and I thought the problem was resolved---he installed a temporary browser on my system and it was able to send messages to my carrier. I thought all was well at that point---it was not as I cannot send messages from either SeaMonkey or Thunderbird. I next tried to send a message from my laptop (Windows XP) using SeaMonkey and then Thunderbird and that does not work either. My amateur fix-it skills tells me that my problem may be located at my ISP. What should or can I do to fix this send message problem? Frog P.S. I just sent this message on my Windows 7...normal e-mail does not work. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Send message problems-
I am not able to send e-mail messages for some reason (Windows 7). This problem started yesterday at noon and continues at this time. All other internet actions are normal. I called my ISP for help and I thought the problem was resolved---he installed a temporary browser on my system and it was able to send messages to my carrier. I thought all was well at that point---it was not as I cannot send messages from either SeaMonkey or Thunderbird. I next tried to send a message from my laptop (Windows XP) using SeaMonkey and then Thunderbird and that does not work either. My amateur fix-it skills tells me that my problem may be located at my ISP. What should or can I do to fix this send message problem? Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Send message problems-
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: When message sending fails, do you get an error message? If so, exactly what is it, and if you can tell, who's it from? Or does the process just stall and fail to complete? Here is what happens when I click send and wait some number of seconds for the message go to my ISP. New is displayed as follows: Login Failed ? Login to server smtp.version.net failed. Retry_ Enter new Password_ Cancel_ Retry ends with some additional seconds passing and the same message as above reappearing. Entering my password starts the send process over ending with the Login Failed window reappearing. Cancel leads to the following message: Sending of the message failed. The message could not be sent using Outgoing server (SMTP) smtp.verizon.net for an unknown reason. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again. OK_ I am then left with my unsent message staring at me. P.S. What's this program "Timberline" you keep mentioning? Sounds like a ski resort... ;-) OOPS(with a red face)my bad memory is showing again. Age will do that you know. Timberline should be Thunderbird. I did try another attempt to send my message and it also failed. I turned off my virus scan software (Webroot) before sending the message and got the same results as before. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
