Re: iCloud backup question

2014-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
apps whose data you don't care about.
On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Hi,
  
 Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
 tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.
  
 I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.
  
 I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
 Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. 
 I don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.
  
 Can someone please help me with this?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Keith
  
  
 I get the message, This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not 
 enough iCloud storage available.
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: iCloud backup question

2014-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
No, leave that on. It should be a button; double tapping it should open a 
screen where you can control exactly which apps get backed up, it should not be 
a toggle. Yes, there is a toggle inside the Documents and Data screen, but the 
button from the main iCloud settings screen should not be a toggle. Are you on 
iOS7?
On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Thanks.
  
 I get to Documents and Data. I switch from On to Off, and it says, All 
 Documents and Data stored in iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone.
  
 I have nothing in iCloud yet. I'm guessing that I'm safe to keep Documents 
 and Data switched off, since there's nothing there currently.
  
 I guess I just need to double-check that nothing currently on my iPhone will 
 be lost when this is checked.
  
 Is that correct?
  
 Thanks. Keith
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 6:06 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iCloud backup question
  
 You can just turn off certain apps. Go to your iCloud settings, then Storage 
 and Backup, then Manage Backups. Double tap the name of the device to manage, 
 and turn off any apps you don't want stored in iCloud. You can save a lot of 
 space this way, with apps that either rely on other storage (like Dropbox) or 
 apps whose data you don't care about.
 On Jun 7, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
  
 Trying to do my first backup to iCloud. I still have the 5.0GB available. It 
 tells me I need an additional 8.5GB of storage.
  
 I don't want to back up documents and data at this point, just the basics.
  
 I did get a screen that said something like, after I unchecked Documents and 
 Data, that Any data not backed up to iCloud will be deleted from this iPhone. 
 I don't want anything deleted from my iPhone when I do a basic backup.
  
 Can someone please help me with this?
  
 Thanks in advance.
  
 Keith
  
  
 I get the message, This iPhone cannot be backed up because there is not 
 enough iCloud storage available.
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Is SoloDX finished or not?

2014-06-06 Thread Alex Hall
Yet, on Twitter, the account came back and said they were bought by a new 
company, and were continuing work. I have no idea at this point.
On Jun 6, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Yes, no more. They threw in the towel a few months ago.
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:01 AM, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 
 Hi I think it is since it has not put out any more description tracks except 
 the one. but I could be wrong but I think I am not. from Mich.
 - Original Message - From: Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 3:19 PM
 Subject: Is SoloDX finished or not?
 
 
 I am very confused and I do not follow soloDX on twitter to know the latest. 
 I don't use faceBook or twitter. :)
 
 http://www.accessibilityhound.com/solo-dx/
 
 http://serotalk.com/2014/04/28/high-contrast-episode-20-screen-dump/
 
 I have not listened to the podcast yet. I will try to soon but I just won't 
 have time until this weekend. Is this all old news or is it new news? The 
 last I heard is that the movieReading app and SoloDX was no longer going to 
 be an option for described movies and TV shows.
 
 Thanks to anyone who can straighten out my confusion. :)
 Christina
 
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Re: automated systems and the i phone

2014-06-06 Thread Alex Hall
Use speakerphone or, better still, a headset (such as the Earbuds your phone 
probably came with). Either works, but I find it easier to hear VO's speech 
when using a headset.
On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 Rebecca and Zeb
 email: rilni...@gmail.com
 twitter: zebs_mom
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 hi everyone. ,i'm trying to call an office for the first time and am having a 
 hard time using ! i phone and the automated system. any suggestions
 
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Re: What are good 2 person games to play with sighted iDevice users?

2014-06-06 Thread Alex Hall
My first thought is Dice World, a more-than-accessible game that is also fully 
suited to sighted play. I don't know if that is the type of game you're looking 
for, but...
On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
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 Hi,
  
 I'm trying to find some good games that are equally challenging (or at least 
 close) for both VoiceOver users and sighted users, to take one another on .
  
 Any suggestions will be most appreciated.
  
 Keith
 
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Re: Question about making a call from contacts

2014-06-06 Thread Alex Hall
You find the number you want to use, such as home or work, and double tap that. 
Or, there should be buttons to call, text, FaceTime, and FaceTime Audio with 
the contact.
On Jun 6, 2014, at 2:48 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm confused about how to make a call from contacts. Once I select a contact, 
 do I have a call button? Where is it? Or do I have to tap? Twice with 2 
 fingers? Thank you,
 Rena 
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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-05 Thread Alex Hall
I'm late to this thread, so sorry if this has been covered.

Has this guy never heard of a bluetooth keyboard, Fleksy, iOS8's global 
third-party keyboard support, a braille display, tactile screen protectors, a 
two-finger double tap... I understand that no single person can know 
everything. Still, before pointing out negatives that can easily be overcome, 
do your research, particularly before putting something like this in such a 
major publication! No, the iPhone is not right for everyone, of course, but it 
is right for more people than the article claims. Okay, rant over. Does anyone 
have this guy's contact information? Comments don't seem to be allowed on the 
article, so contacting the writer is the next best thing.
On Jun 5, 2014, at 7:33 PM, Christopher J Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I read the article when I first saw the URL show up on various lists. I 
 didn't save the URL, but it was easy enough to find with Google. BTW, he does 
 include an even longer list of the good things about the iPhone.
 
 The URL to the article is at 
 https://nfb.org/images/nfb/publications/bm/bm14/bm1406/bm140608.htm
 
 On 6/5/2014 7:57 AM, Paul Ferrara wrote:
 David, I understand your concern; if the article is as poor as you say, it 
 is disturbing. However, there are plenty of positive things out there, word 
 of mouth, etc. So hopefully most people who are interested will find much 
 more positive things to counteract the negatives in this article. By the 
 way, if anyone has the link to the article, post it please so we all can 
 read it and perhaps comment if the magazine allows for comments.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Paul
 
 -Original Message- From: 'David Goldfield' via VIPhone
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 11:52 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone
 
 Has anyone read the June Braille Monitor?  there is an article covering
 the supposed pros and cons of the iPhone.  I have to admit that it would
 be very difficult for me to come up with a list of ten things which are
 not good about the iPhone but this article supposedly did just that.
 I plan to write a detailed blog post in the coming week with my
 responses to the ten objections but I'll just say that it's one of the
 most irresponsible pieces of journalism I've ever read from that
 magazine.  Please, understand that this is not meant as a bash about the
 NFB vs any other organization or even a criticism of the Monitor.
 However, the piece infuriated me because the NFB is a highly influential
 organization and many of its members and readers of the Monitor will
 take the article seriously just because it comes from a nationally
 recognized blindness organization.  My fear is that many people may read
 this article and will be convinced to not buy an iPhone due to things
 which the article claims are not good about the device.
 
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Re: NFB June Braille Monitor/Article on the iPhone

2014-06-05 Thread Alex Hall
Possibly, and I agree that the iPhone isn't for everyone. Some are better off 
with Android, some with a Haven. My point is that what he calls downsides are 
sometimes easily overcome (Fleksy and Braille integration in iOS8) and 
sometimes totally wrong (answering/hanging up is a two-finger double tap, but 
he made it sound horribly difficult).
On Jun 5, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Christopher J Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard from several blind people who got an iPhone because they were told 
 it was their only accessible cell phone option or that it was so easy to use 
 for a blind person. I've also seen people on lists like this saying that any 
 blind person who wants a cell phone should just get an iPhone and not bother 
 with the few accessible feature phones that are out there. I think there's 
 definitely a pervasive attitude out there that the iPhone is the way to go if 
 you're blind and want a cell phone, even if you're not going to use the smart 
 phone features. I don't know why Curtis Chong wrote this article, but I 
 suspect it was this pervasive opinion that he was specifically addressing.
 
 On 6/5/2014 7:34 AM, Ari Moisio wrote:
 Hi
 
 Some sighted buy it because it looks so cool, some will buy it because its 
 Apple. Many blind will buy because they  have heard it is accessible.
 
 
 
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Re: Accessibility of iOS 8

2014-06-04 Thread Alex Hall
It was not in the Keynote, and anything beta testers discover while actually 
using iOS8 will be covered by Apple's NDA. In other words, if we didn't find 
out about it on Monday, no one is allowed to say anything until the official 
release in the fall. Naturally there will be those who disregard Apple's 
policies, but discussing anything covered under an NDA is not allowed on this 
list.
On Jun 4, 2014, at 10:13 PM, denise avant denise.av...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 I was wondering if anyone has seen information regarding enhanced Braille 
 display support in IOS 8?
 thanks.
 
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Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8

2014-06-03 Thread Alex Hall
With iCloud Drive, you will (sort of) have what you are looking for. As I 
understand it, you can browse your iCloud Drive from any compatible app, 
including all the folders therein. Once an app supports iCloud in iOS8, that 
functionality is there. Plus, all apps will be browsing the same drive, so 
there is no worrying about having a separate copy of a file in each app.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:08 PM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure,  why Apple don't 
 provide something at system level has always bugged me.  I have used the 
 apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would be a monumental 
 and long-overdue benefit.
 
 JMO, RobH.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great
 improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we
 will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and use
 them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but at
 this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with one
 application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file
 management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying
 and moving files is very difficult.
 Original message:
 Hello,
 
 I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does not
 appear to be coming to iOS 8.  Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not.
 
 I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the Messages app;
 you know, be able to create folders so I can save important messages.  All 
 I
 saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads in group messages.
 Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS 8 but
 ...
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy wrote:
 Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8?
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs 6.*
 straight up to 8.*.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM
 Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 Hi all,
 I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility
 features we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have
 the beta, so I can't break an NDA.
 
 * Better Zoom
 * Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
 * multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
 * the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know
 for
 sure)
 * six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
 * third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as
 said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of
 this. Yes, Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a
 keyboard appears, from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere!
 
 That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard
 iOS8 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting release!
 
 --
 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8

2014-06-03 Thread Alex Hall
Chris is right. We know that 200gb is $4 per month, but pricing fir tiers 
beyond that was not announced. Also, the new pricing is not yet available as 
far as I know; I expect it to come out alongside the iOS/OS x releases, but 
that is only my guess.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Something like 5 GB free, 20 GB for $1/month and so on up to 1 TB.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/06/2014 19:24, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
 Was there a space limit for free storage with this? Any indication of 
 pricing for greater storage, if necessary?
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:15 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 With iCloud Drive, you will (sort of) have what you are looking for. As I 
 understand it, you can browse your iCloud Drive from any compatible app, 
 including all the folders therein. Once an app supports iCloud in iOS8, that 
 functionality is there. Plus, all apps will be browsing the same drive, so 
 there is no worrying about having a separate copy of a file in each app.
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:08 PM, RobH. 
 bobs...@googlemail.commailto:bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 
 File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure,  why Apple don't
 provide something at system level has always bugged me.  I have used the
 apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would be a monumental
 and long-overdue benefit.
 
 JMO, RobH.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.netmailto:n0...@charter.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great
 improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we
 will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and use
 them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but at
 this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with one
 application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file
 management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying
 and moving files is very difficult.
 Original message:
 
 Hello,
 
 
 I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does not
 appear to be coming to iOS 8.  Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not.
 
 
 I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the Messages app;
 you know, be able to create folders so I can save important messages.  All
 I
 saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads in group messages.
 Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS 8 but
 ...
 
 
 Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September.
 
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind 
 www.hadley.eduhttp://www.hadley.edu
 
 
 On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy wrote:
 
 Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8?
 
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, RobH. 
 bobs...@googlemail.commailto:bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 
 It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs 6.*
 straight up to 8.*.
 
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.commailto:mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM
 Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 
 Hi all,
 I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility
 features we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have
 the beta, so I can't break an NDA.
 
 
 * Better Zoom
 * Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
 * multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
 * the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know
 for
 sure)
 * six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
 * third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as
 said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of
 this. Yes, Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a
 keyboard appears, from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere!
 
 
 That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard
 iOS8 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting release!
 
 
 --
 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.commailto:mehg...@icloud.com

Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8

2014-06-03 Thread Alex Hall
Fleksy is a keyboard app that lets you type very quickly. It takes the 
locations you touched to enter a word and, when you swipe right, it guesses the 
word. You can therefore touch roughly where you think the proper letters would 
be, swipe right, and have the word you meant inserted. Many people really like 
it, and it has begun to be integrated into iOS apps like Blindsquare and 
Tweetings. Soon, though, it can be made into a default keyboard across the 
entire OS.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Connie Mohney conniemoh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hello,
 In this thread, Alex mentioned Flexie.  What is flexie? Thank you.
 Connie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Mike Arrigo
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:59 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 As far as I know, every other operating system, both mobile and desktop
 provides this, and there is no support for mass storage or media transfer
 protocol that allows you to just transfer files between a computer and an I
 O S device.
 Original message:
 File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure,  why Apple 
 don't provide something at system level has always bugged me.  I have 
 used the apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would 
 be a monumental and long-overdue benefit.
 
 JMO, RobH.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great 
 improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we 
 will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and 
 use them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but 
 at this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with 
 one application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file 
 management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying 
 and moving files is very difficult.
 Original message:
 Hello,
 
 I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does 
 not appear to be coming to iOS 8.  Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not.
 
 I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the Messages 
 app; you know, be able to create folders so I can save important 
 messages.  All I saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads 
 in group messages.
 Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS 8 
 but ...
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher Hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy wrote:
 Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8?
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs 
 6.* straight up to 8.*.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM
 Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 Hi all,
 I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility 
 features we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even 
 have the beta, so I can't break an NDA.
 
 * Better Zoom
 * Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
 * multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
 * the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know 
 for
 sure)
 * six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
 * third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as 
 said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of 
 this. Yes, Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a 
 keyboard appears, from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere!
 
 That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the 
 standard
 iOS8 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting release!
 
 --
 Have a great day,
 Alex Hall
 mehg...@icloud.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iCloud syncing and iCloud and native app

2014-06-03 Thread Alex Hall
1. No, iOS needs iTunes to sync ringtones. You can buy one right from a phone, 
but that is the only other way I know of.

2. Yes. Simply enable Mail, create your email address if you don't already have 
one @icloud.com, and you're done. Note that you cannot use that iCloud address 
for your Apple ID, as technically it is a new ID in its own right. I don't 
really understand how it all works, but the bottom line is you need a non-Apple 
address as your ID. Hopefully this changes in the near future.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have 2 questions.
 
 1. I don't think this is possible, but if it is I will pass on the 
 instructions on how. There are 2 people I know. One wants to get a ringtone 
 from the other. Can the second person put it on iCloud and can the first 
 person sync it from the cloud? 
 
 2. If I have an iCloud address, can I use it from mail just by adding it to 
 my mail in settings, mail, accounts and delete a Yahoo account and use native 
 mail app? Thank you for any help you can give me. I think the first is 
 impossible and the second might be possible or do I need to go to iCloud on 
 the net to set up?
 
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
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Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8

2014-06-03 Thread Alex Hall
Well, iOS devices are not thumb drives, and I doubt you will ever be able to 
use one as such without a third-party app of some kind. That said, if an app 
integrates the upcoming iCloud Drive option, you will have basically what you 
are seeking, on an app-by-app basis. For example, say you edit a PDF in a Mac 
app. you can drop it anywhere in your iCloud Drive, then use some app on iOS to 
browse to and open that file. If Voice Dream were to support iCloud Drive, 
imagine dumping zipped Daisy books into the drive, then opening them in VDR. I 
hope I'm making sense.
On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Tom Lange lang...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would really like the ability to do file and folder management and to be 
 able to transfer files of all types from my PC or laptop to my iPhone as if 
 it were an external drive.  I  resent having to use iTunes for any 
 file/folder management task and would dearly love to tell Apple to take 
 iTunes and shove it way up where the sun don't shine.  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:08 AM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure,  why Apple don't 
 provide something at system level has always bugged me.  I have used the 
 apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would be a monumental 
 and long-overdue benefit.
 
 JMO, RobH.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great
 improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we
 will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and use
 them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but at
 this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with one
 application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file
 management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying
 and moving files is very difficult.
 Original message:
 Hello,
 
 I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does not
 appear to be coming to iOS 8.  Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not.
 
 I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the Messages app;
 you know, be able to create folders so I can save important messages.  All 
 I
 saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads in group messages.
 Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS 8 but
 ...
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Christopher Hallsworth
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 
 On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy wrote:
 Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8?
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs 6.*
 straight up to 8.*.
 
 Rh.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM
 Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8
 
 
 Hi all,
 I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility
 features we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have
 the beta, so I can't break an NDA.
 
 * Better Zoom
 * Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
 * multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
 * the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know
 for
 sure)
 * six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
 * third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as
 said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of
 this. Yes, Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a
 keyboard appears, from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere!
 
 That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard
 iOS8 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting release!
 
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 mehg...@icloud.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
First, if you can stand the wait, the iPhone6 will be out later this year. You 
could get that, or get the 5S when it drops in price.

As to internet, if you are the only one on the phone plan, 2gb is more than 
enough. Yes, apps use data, but most let you disable internet access while not 
on wifi. Besides, the majority will only be pulling small amounts of text, so 
letting them do what they want won't eat into your data plan. The big data 
users are audio and video apps - Podcasts, Music, Youtube, Skype, FaceTime, and 
the like.

OCR apps are not great, but they get the job done in most cases. Check out 
Prizmo, Pocket Reader, and Text Detective for starters.

Object identifier apps: Money Reader, that free money identifying app whose 
name I'm forgetting, TapTapSee, Camfind, Red Laser, and Digit-Eyes are the best 
ones.

I strongly recommend you have a look around www.applevis.com to get more app 
recommendations and reviews.
On May 31, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Eve squirre...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 As I stated in an earlier message last week, I intend to purchase an IPhone 
 5S in the near future.
 I have Verizon as my carrier  plan to have 2 GB data.  I've heard on this 
 list that lots of aps use the internet.  Would it be better to purchase more 
 GB, or just don't use the ones that require the internet connection?  I only 
 want to text once in a while, and be able to identify objects and colors with 
 the iPhone.  Also, I would like to use the ap that can read a printed page 
 after taking a picture of it with the camera.  Would someone please explain 
 all this stuff to me?  Thanks!
 
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Re: Apple Event

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
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Accessibility Features in iOS8

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility features we 
know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have the beta, so I can't 
break an NDA.

* Better Zoom
* Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
* multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
* the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know for sure)
* six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
* third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as said on 
Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of this. Yes, Fleksy 
will soon be available at any point in iOS when a keyboard appears, from Mail 
to the App store to, well, anywhere!

That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard iOS8 
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Re: 5s cases

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
The Otterbox Defender case offers the same protection as it does on the 4S, 
except for the home button. That is left uncovered, so that you can use Touch 
ID. The rest of the case is solid though, and feels more solid - the outer case 
is harder and sturdier to my touch, compared to the softer and flimsier 
silicone of the 4S case.
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 I had an otterbox for the 5s and loved it.  It has a plastic piece over the
 screen and rubber housing
 
 
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 Hello all. I received an iPhone 5s. Can anyone recommend any good cases? I
 had an OtterBox case for my 4S but want  good protection as well as the
 ability to use the fingerprint ID.
 
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Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, that's where I found it as well. There was a slide with thirty-two items 
the presenters could not cover during the Keynote, and these were among them. 
There were others as well, most very interesting.

As to the keyboard, even if it can predict what I'm going to type most of the 
time, the question remains: how easy will it be to use? Anyone who uses 
spellcheck with the native keyboard knows what a pain that is. If accessing 
predictions is that slow, they won't be much help. Of course, Apple might have 
come up with a great way for VO users to do this, but until I see it, and that 
it works well, I'll be more excited for Fleksy or the in-built braille support.
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 I read it in one of the many iOS 8 postings on 9to5mac. An article on what 
 wasn't explicitly covered in the presentation. Don't remember the exact 
 title, but I'm sure folks can find it if they poke around the site.
  
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 HI Alex,
  
 thanks for these. How do we know this? I saw the keynote, (twice in fact) and 
 no mention of these points, such as Alex on iOS, was made.
  
 So where are these features coming from?
  
 Obviously system-wide keyboard support was mentioned, but the others were 
 not... What did I miss?
  
 Thanks so much and have a terrific night!...
  
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 Hi all,
 I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility features 
 we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have the beta, so I 
 can't break an NDA.
  
 * Better Zoom
 * Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch
 * multi-device support for compatible hearing aids
 * the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know for sure)
 * six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like)
 * third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as said on 
 Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of this. Yes, 
 Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a keyboard appears, 
 from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere!
  
 That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard iOS8 
 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting release!
 
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Re: Exploring my iPhone?

2014-06-01 Thread Alex Hall
Practice only lets you practice gestures, it does not tell you anything about 
what is on the screen. When you touch something on the screen while not in 
practice mode, that item is spoken as is any hint it has. I'm not sure I follow 
your question - if you know the iPod, then you know the iPhone. For dialing, 
just use the same keyboard input you are used to; touch the numbers until you 
find the right one, then either tap with another finger, double tap, or lift 
your finger, depending on your setting.
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 Hello to all,
 Is there a way I can explore my iPhone to find out where the different 
 buttons are?  I went into settings.  Then clicked on general,then 
 accessibility.  Finally, I clicked on voice over.  In that section there is 
 voiceover practice. I clicked on voiceover practice.  I have the hang of 
 flicking and tapping from my iPod.  When I touch any of the dots on my phone 
 all it says istouch select  item under your finger.Maybe I don't have 
 things set up correctly? I'm trying to find out where the numbers are and 
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Re: IBooks Voice Dream

2014-05-31 Thread Alex Hall
No, VDR cannot read protected books. Books from Amazon, Nook, iBooks, and 
others cannot be read in any app other than the one made by that company.

The odd sound you're hearing is probably the sound as the page scrolls. Muting 
your device can help, though you will still hear the pause where the sound 
normally plays.
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 Is there a way to import Ibooks into Voice Dream Reader? If so, could somone
 please post the instructions to the list? The reason I would like to do this
 is, I noticed there is an odd sound coming from vo when reading in Ibooks.
 It is very distracting. 
 
 Thank you to everyone who responded to my question about moving books to my
 Ipad. 
 
 Have a good day, 
 
 Lynda 
 
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Re: audio/charge cables for iPhone 5s

2014-05-31 Thread Alex Hall
There is, you want a thirty-pin to lightning adapter. Apple sells them, and, as 
with most Apple accessories, you can find them cheaper elsewhere. Be careful 
that the product you buy is certified by Apple, though, or you may get a 
warning popping up on your device each time you use the adapter. Obviously, 
too, non-certified adapters, cables, and chargers have the potential of hurting 
your device.
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 I doknow that there is such an animal.  I'd try best buy etc.
 
 Regards,
 
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 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous 
 - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
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Re: IBooks Voice Dream

2014-05-31 Thread Alex Hall
VDR supports iTunes File Sharing. You can use this to copy the database of 
material VDR contains, or replace it with another database, but that is it.
On May 31, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I will turn mute on.
  
 Is the Itunes in VDR then for music?
  
 Thank you,
  
 Lynda
  
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 No, VDR cannot read protected books. Books from Amazon, Nook, iBooks, and 
 others cannot be read in any app other than the one made by that company.
  
 The odd sound you're hearing is probably the sound as the page scrolls. 
 Muting your device can help, though you will still hear the pause where the 
 sound normally plays.
 On May 31, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi Everyone, 
 
 Is there a way to import Ibooks into Voice Dream Reader? If so, could somone
 please post the instructions to the list? The reason I would like to do this
 is, I noticed there is an odd sound coming from vo when reading in Ibooks.
 It is very distracting. 
 
 Thank you to everyone who responded to my question about moving books to my
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 Have a good day, 
 
 Lynda 
 
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Re: Transferring Bookshare Books To IPad

2014-05-30 Thread Alex Hall
You can't transfer individual books through VDR, you can only transfer the 
entire database of files at once. It might be easiest to either download them 
again, or download them on a computer and put them in a Dropbox folder, then 
import them from Dropbox in the iPad's copy of VDR.
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 I agree, I do like Voice Dream much better. Will I have to redownload the
 books on to my Ipad or can I transfer them somehow through Itunes? 
 
 Thanks in advance, 
 
 Lynda 
 
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 Of Feliciano G
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Transferring Bookshare Books To IPad
 
 Voice dream reader is a better app IMO. Works with bookshare plus more. 
 
  Regards, Feliciano
 
 Sent from the Super-iPhone
 
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 Have you thought about getting the read to go app for iPad. You can read
 the books that way.
 isaac
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 I have a number of Bookshare books on my 5s that I would prefer to 
 read on my Ipad mini. Can I somehow transfer the books to my Ipad 
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 Thank you in advance,
 
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Re: using Apex to input text

2014-05-30 Thread Alex Hall
The Apex line does not do space-7 or space-8. Humanware keeps saying it is 
Apple's fault, even though every other display I've tried (admittedly not many) 
does support this.
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 Hi David,
 SPACE with BACKSPACE may not work for some people.
 Cheers,
 Joseph
 
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 Subject: Re: using Apex to input text
 
 Dot 7 with space will backspace.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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 Hi all,
 
 I have figured out how to write text with my Apex QT.  I have to use Braille
 keys.  What I can't work out is how to backspace.
 
 I have done some research, and I see that dot 8 is supposed to backspace
 when using the display with a computer, but it does not work for me with my
 phone.
 
 Any help would be most appreciated.
 
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Re: Question about contacts

2014-05-30 Thread Alex Hall
What do you mean? You can see them all in the list, though, of course, only a 
few at a time (there's no way to fit sixty on the iPhone's screen). Like any 
list of items, you can flick through them one at a time, or scroll the page by 
flicking three fingers up or down. You can also use the search box at the top 
of the list, or navigate by heading to jump from letter to letter. Finally, on 
the right edge of the screen, you'll find a table index that lets you flick 
one finger up or down to the letter you want. Touch the middle of the screen 
and you should find yourself on the list of contacts, centered on the chosen 
letter.
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 When I had only 3 contacts I could find them and use them, but now that I 
 have around 60 I only find a few of them. What do I have to do to see the 
 whole list of contacts and to choose the one I want?
 Thank you,
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Re: Pasting An E-mail Attachment from my iPhone 4S To My Braille Edge?

2014-05-30 Thread Alex Hall
You can't go that way. You could type on the Edge and paste that into a text 
field on the iPhone, but pasting *to* the Edge is not supported as far as I 
know.
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Re: Square Reader Accessibility

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Re: shopping list

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Re: shopping list

2014-05-29 Thread Alex Hall
It's easiest on a Mac, or from www.icloud.com (though I have no idea how 
accessible the latter is). Basically, go to Reminders on the Mac or iCloud.com 
site, select the list to share, click Share, enter the Apple ID emails of the 
recipients, and click share. Each person will get an email with a link to 
confirm the sharing of the list; once they click that and enter their password, 
that's it, you are both sharing that list. You can share with as many people as 
you like.
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 Can you tell us more about setting up and using these Family Reminders? That 
 sounds like a useful option. Thanks. Keith
  
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 I didn't see the original message in this thread, so i apologize if there is 
 an already-explained reason you can't do the following.
 Why not use Reminders and Siri? My family has a shared Reminder list called 
 shopping. Any one of us can tell Siri to add [some item] to my shopping 
 list. Once it is added, if any other family member opens the list, they see 
 that new item. I don't know if there is a way to be notified of new additions 
 to shared reminder lists, and I can't find one on Google, but aside from that 
 it works well.
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 Hi Alan, do you use the $.99 one or the deluxe one for Doc a dollar and $.99. 
 I read the description on both but I couldn't find any differences could you 
 tell me which one you use and if you do use the deluxe one what are the 
 differences? This app looks interesting so thank you for posting it. God 
 bless, Wren Langley
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 29, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Try Any List  It is totally accessible.  The app lets you select items such 
 as milk, eggs, butter, etc.  There are also categories you can choose from 
 and if a product isn't there like goat cheese, it's easy enough to add it.  
 All you do is to check the items you want.  When you create an account, you 
 can then sync lists across devices so for example, you need shaving cream so 
 you add it to the list.  Your wife is grocery shopping and she sees that 
 shaving cream has been added.
  
 HTH
 
 Regards,
  
 Alan
  
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 hasn't met me yet.
  
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 Hi, are there any suggestions for an app that just has a listing of all sorts 
 of meats, fruits, vegetables deli items ect?  I think that it would help me 
 be able to think of the various things that I need to get if I keep track of 
 things within an app.  Thanks so much.  Andy and Shubert
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Re: Weather app question

2014-05-29 Thread Alex Hall
Open Weather. In the bottom right corner is a button labeled edit cities. 
Double tapping that brings up a list of the cities you have, each of which is a 
button. Double tapping any city will switch to it; the trick is to do a 
one-finger flick up on the city. VO will say delete, you double tap, and the 
city is removed.
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 I am using the stock weather app which comes with the iPhone.  I have 
 selected a couple of cities which I now wish to delete but can't figure how 
 to remove them.  Thanks in advance for straightening me out.
 
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Re: Mac book pro!!!

2014-05-28 Thread Alex Hall
I agree that it all depends. For most things I can think of, though, the Mac is 
a fine choice, especially if you also have an iOS device. I wrote an article on 
the pros and cons of the Mac, and I tried to be as balanced as I could. You 
should take a look at it if you are considering switching to the Mac:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x/pros-and-cons-mac-accessibility-perspective
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 The mac book pro is great for doing dayley tasks. It really depends on what 
 you want to do.
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 How is the Mac book pro for a blind user that wants to do daily tasks on a 
 laptop
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Re: Editing part of my message

2014-05-28 Thread Alex Hall
Here's the thing: VoiceOver speaks the character you pass, whereas Windows 
screen readers always speak the character to the left of the cursor, I believe. 
Let's trace an example to make this clearer:

Say we have the word iPhone and, for whatever reason, we want to erase the 
i at the beginning of it. Change your rotor to characters, and flick up; you 
will be moved backward, character by character: i, n, o, h, capital p, i. VO 
tells you the character it passes, and because you are moving backward, it is 
being placed on the left of the characters is speaks. That is, if you hit 
delete once you reach the i, you will delete the space before the word; VO told 
you i as it passed the i, moving left, so the cursor is now between the space 
and the i. To erase that i, you'd either stop at the p, so the cursor is 
between it and the i, or you'd move right one character. In the latter case, VO 
will say i again as it once more passes the i, this time moving right. Since 
it spoke the i as it moved forward, you can be confident that deleting will 
take out the i; again, the cursor is now between the i and the p.

It is very hard to get used to this system if you use Windows screen readers, 
but the Mac is set up the same way. Honestly, I now find it much more sensible 
to do things this way, and Windows gets me all confused. Apple reports the true 
position of the cursor (which characters it is between) rather than always the 
character to one side. This is closer to the way the cursor looks visually, and 
it is a much easier way to track where you are. It takes getting used to, but 
you will eventually have an 'ah ha moment and come to love this method. At 
least I did. :)
On May 28, 2014, at 8:20 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I am noticing that too. I don't think you can delete a space when using 
 the rotor you have to delete the previous character before you can delete the 
 space.
 isaac
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 
 
 On May 26, 2014, at 10:12 PM, bhavesh dhanak bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi frnds, i m facing difficulty in edditing:
 sometimes it deletes the character which voice over speaks, sometimes
 the previous 1.
 Example:
 i phone
 now if i wonna remove space after i, and i go to p, then it deletes p,
 sometimes space.
 Pls guide me, and explain me how d edditing works...
 Thx chears!
 
 On 5/26/14, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote:
 Set your roter to characters (or words if it's a really long message)
 and swipe through the message until you get to the part you want to
 edit. Then, if you set the roter to words, change it to characters,
 and continue swiping through the part you want to edit. Use the delete
 key to delete what you don't want, or just insert the new text where
 you want it by typing it in. Editing can take a long time! But, it's
 possible.
 Penny
 
 On 5/26/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 The rotor is the key here, if you don't have a braille or bluetooth
 keyboard. Rotate two fingers on the screen until you get to the increment
 you want (lines, words, or characters) and then flick up to move back by
 that increment, down to move forward. Probably the best way is to move by
 line to the area, then by word or character to get exactly where you want
 to
 edit. Once done, double tap once or twice until VoiceOver says insertion
 point at end and you're at the bottom, ready to type some more.
 On May 25, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Cornelius appalgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I am typing quite a long message on my phone, and I need to go
 to
 a certain part to edit back what i've type.
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Re: Question About Twitterific and Twitter

2014-05-28 Thread Alex Hall
That's the idea - it will go to the last tweet you read, so you can keep 
reading, in order, from there. If you want to start from the top, simply touch 
any of the buttons on the top (Home, Mentions, messages, Compose, etc) and 
flick right. This is for Twitterrific - I don't know about the main Twitter app.
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 Is there a way to get Twitterific and Twitter to open up on the latest 
 entries?  Every time that I open the Apss I am at the last entry that I read. 
  I have to swipe down to get to the top of the page.
 
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Re: Odd voice over and speaker issue

2014-05-28 Thread Alex Hall
Have you checked your VO volume? Go to a home screen, go to the top, do a 
two-finger swipe down to read all, and hit the volume up key. The iPhone stores 
a different audio level for the speaker than for headphones, so a headset may 
work fine while VoiceOver's internal speaker volume is low. Siri would also 
work, because its volume is also independent.
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 Hello all. I have an odd voiceover issue. Voice over works fine when in my 
 headset, but when I unplug the headphones, nothing speaks. The speaker works 
 fine, because Siri works from the external speaker. What can I do to fix this?
 
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Re: saving Apple Id on IPhone

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
It should save automatically, but try going to Settings  iTunes and App Store. 
Sign in there, go back to the main Settings screen, go to iCloud, and sign in 
again. That should take care of it.
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 Is there a way to permanently save my apple ID and password on the IPhone so 
 that I don't have to sign in every time I go to the ITunes Store, Ap Store or 
 want to send a message? I'm not finding a save button anywhere, and I need to 
 type it in on the phone every time I enter one of these areas.
  
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Re: saving Apple Id on IPhone

2014-05-27 Thread Alex Hall
True. There is a setting in iTunes and App Stores settings that lets you set 
the time between password entries. For instance, I have mine set to fifteen 
minutes; anytime I enter my password to make a purchase, I can make any number 
of additional purchases within fifteen minutes without needing to enter my 
password again. Just something to look at while you are in the Settings anyway.
On May 27, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Correct, except that for the iTunes and app stores you will need to enter 
 your password each time you purchase something. Your Apple Id should already 
 be there, but for security reasons any purchases including free apps do 
 require your password.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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 It should save automatically, but try going to Settings  iTunes and App 
 Store. Sign in there, go back to the main Settings screen, go to iCloud, and 
 sign in again. That should take care of it.
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 Is there a way to permanently save my apple ID and password on the IPhone so 
 that I don't have to sign in every time I go to the ITunes Store, Ap Store or 
 want to send a message? I'm not finding a save button anywhere, and I need to 
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Re: Editing part of my message

2014-05-26 Thread Alex Hall
The rotor is the key here, if you don't have a braille or bluetooth keyboard. 
Rotate two fingers on the screen until you get to the increment you want 
(lines, words, or characters) and then flick up to move back by that increment, 
down to move forward. Probably the best way is to move by line to the area, 
then by word or character to get exactly where you want to edit. Once done, 
double tap once or twice until VoiceOver says insertion point at end and 
you're at the bottom, ready to type some more.
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Re: Any comparison between android kitkat version on google phones versus Iphone devices

2014-05-23 Thread Alex Hall
No, it's not safe to assume that. I recently read a top 10 accessibility 
wishes for Android 4.5 article, and many features were rather concerning. For 
example, the author hoped to one day be able to navigate text by line properly, 
or use the default browser, Chrome, efficiently. Android can be customized to 
be more accessible, but you have to find the right apps, packages, launchers, 
and so on to fit your needs and taste. If at all possible, get ahold of an 
Android device you can return, and play with it for a while, relying on Google 
or the Eyes-free Google email list for help. If you don't like it, you can 
return it. Android has its good points, but set up a try before you buy if 
you possibly can.
On May 23, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Prakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:

 Of course, Android in earlier versions was not as accessible as Apple was in
 its earlier versions. So, is it safe to assume that whatever you can do on
 an iPhone, you can now do on Android as well?Such as, browsing,  texting,
 reading and writing emails, using facebook, twitter and skype?
 
 
 
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 Both platforms are accessible, but they work differently, it's like 
 comparing apples and oranges. You can perform all of the major tasks 
 that you could want on both of them. Android is certainly more 
 customizable, and you can do things such as replace the system 
 keyboard, use a different home screen, etc.
 Original message:
 
 Hello all.
 
 Can someone point me to some website or podcast comparing accessibility 
 on phones with kitkat version on google phones versus latest IOS on 
 iPhone 5 s. I specify google phones as they provide undiluted version 
 of android.
 
 With appreciations for suggestions.
 
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Re: aftershokz headphones

2014-05-23 Thread Alex Hall
Contact Aftershokz (sa...@aftershokz.com) to see if there's anything they can 
do. They may be able to offer a discounted upgrade price since you basically 
cannot use the unit you have.
On May 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Kristeen Hughes khwi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I know and appreciate that, but it doesn't matter how I hold them and/or 
 for how long. I guess it was the original Bluez, but they were expensive, so 
 I won't be able to update them. I can hold the phone in my fingertips and it 
 still wasn't useful.
 
 Kristeen
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 Hi Christine,
  
 A Bluetooth headset or speaker cutting out is typically more a result of its 
 connection to the phone. If, for example, you put on a Bluetooth headset and 
 then clamp your phone under your armpit most of them cut out because your 
 body, which is 70% water, blocks the signal.
  
 It's a good idea to know if the Bluetooth modem in the headset is on the 
 left or on the right and then to keep your phone on the same side.
  
 Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 devices are to some degree dealing with this, but it 
 could still be an issue.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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 Subject: Re: aftershokz headphones
  
 Also, they cut out so badly while walking and using Blindsquare, that it is 
 impossible to know what is being said. I was very disappointed when I 
 discovered they only worked consistently when standing or sitting very still.
  
 Kristeen
  
 On May 21, 2014, at 11:49 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 
 The Sport is wired with microphone, the Bluez is bluetooth with microphone. 
 The Bluez has recently been updated to the Bluez 2, and I understand it is 
 currently back-ordered until sometime in June. Both have play/pause an 
 volume, I believe, though i only have personal experience with the Bluez 1 
 and 2. I strongly recommend you read reviews of the Bluez 2 before ordering, 
 though, as some people (myself included) find them extremely uncomfortable 
 to wear for very long.
 On May 21, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 www.aftershokz.com
  
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Re: Can Voice Dream Move Forward and Backward with the Earpod Remote?

2014-05-23 Thread Alex Hall
You should check the settings. Go into Settings from the main VDR screen and 
find the remote option. You can set it to move by the selected increment, which 
sounds like what you are after, or by article. Be sure the former is selected, 
and it should work.
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 Hi Alan,
 
 yes, the standard rewind and fast forward commands move by the increment you 
 select. So double-click the middle button to go forward your selected amount 
 of time, or triple-click to move back.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 On May 23, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm a huge fan of Voice Dream Reader and have been following the thread 
 about how it handles playback rewind and fast forward in response to the 
 AGOGO app discussion. I have been using my iPhone 5 for all my book reading 
 and really enjoy listening with it in my pocket where I can control playback 
 using the remote and volume buttons on my earpods. Does anyone know of a 
 workaround that allows rewind of Voice Dream playback using the remote 
 button? Unless I'm missing something, I can only move backward and forward 
 in Voice Dream using the gesture-based swipes to move the set increments. I 
 figured if another method was available, someone here would know about it.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Bluetooth Pairing Problem With iPod Touch and BrailleNote Apex

2014-05-22 Thread Alex Hall
The following are  last resorts, but they should work. They are final options 
because both result in removing some application data. You can get it back in 
both cases, and it is not personal data, but it can still be annoying.

1. Do a network settings reset.
Reset the Apex and put it in bluetooth terminal mode, then leave it. On the 
iPod, go to settings, general, reset, reset network settings. Go through the 
confirmations, and let it do its thing. Once all network settings are reset, 
try pairing again.

2. Ram Reset the Apex.
If you still have problems, do a 1-2-3 reset on the Apex. This will delete all 
extra programs (Dictionary, Sendero GPS, and Nemeth Tutorial). You can get them 
back, but you'll need to do so by re-downloading them, and the files can be 
quite large.
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 Hello everyone, I am currently with a friend of mine, and we are trying to 
 pair her iPod touch fifth-generation with your BrailleNote Apex. We have 
 tried practically everything! We are having trouble getting the two devices 
 to pair at all and in fact now, they are not even seeing each other. We have 
 tried resetting both devices and that hasn't worked either. We are getting 
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Re: Rotor command on the QWERTY keyboard

2014-05-22 Thread Alex Hall
That's only when Quick Nav is on. The OP is asking about commands when Quick 
Nav is off, which I don't believe exist. You can use vo-cmd-left/right to cycle 
through the speech rotor, but that is for things like speed and volume of the 
TTS.
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 Hi, It is up arrow and right arrow together to go forward and up arrow and
 left arrow to go back.
 
 Neal
 
 
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 I think that the rotor can only be changed with quicknav on. No other
 alternative that I know of.
 Best,
 
 Ioana 
 
 
 
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 I do not use a QWERTY keyboard with my iPhone, so I do not know the
 answer.
 
 When QuickNav is not active, what is the command to turn the rotor using a
 QWERTY keyboard. My friend tried control+option+up-arrow+left-arrow, and
 control+option+up-arrow+right-arrow, and reported these combinations do not
 work. 
 
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Re: aftershokz headphones

2014-05-22 Thread Alex Hall
Indeed, my second-generation Bluez work perfectly as far as connectivity and 
sound quality now. However, I find them extremely uncomfortable to wear. Here's 
my full review:
http://www.applevis.com/reviews/bluetooth-headsets/second-generation-aftershokz-bluez
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 This seems to have been resolved in the Bluez 2.
  
 Andy
  
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 Also, they cut out so badly while walking and using Blindsquare, that it is 
 impossible to know what is being said. I was very disappointed when I 
 discovered they only worked consistently when standing or sitting very still.
  
 Kristeen
  
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 The Sport is wired with microphone, the Bluez is bluetooth with microphone. 
 The Bluez has recently been updated to the Bluez 2, and I understand it is 
 currently back-ordered until sometime in June. Both have play/pause an 
 volume, I believe, though i only have personal experience with the Bluez 1 
 and 2. I strongly recommend you read reviews of the Bluez 2 before ordering, 
 though, as some people (myself included) find them extremely uncomfortable 
 to wear for very long.
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 www.aftershokz.com
  
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Re: aftershokz headphones

2014-05-21 Thread Alex Hall
The Sport is wired with microphone, the Bluez is bluetooth with microphone. The 
Bluez has recently been updated to the Bluez 2, and I understand it is 
currently back-ordered until sometime in June. Both have play/pause an volume, 
I believe, though i only have personal experience with the Bluez 1 and 2. I 
strongly recommend you read reviews of the Bluez 2 before ordering, though, as 
some people (myself included) find them extremely uncomfortable to wear for 
very long.
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 www.aftershokz.com
  
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Re: a couple of questions concerning blindsquare

2014-05-20 Thread Alex Hall
1. I believe so; move to the spot, and you should be able to mark it. Someone 
with more experience should confirm this though, as I only just started using 
the app.
2. On the Apple EarPods, the center button is everything except volume. Press 
it once to play/pause, twice to move forward, and thrice to move backward. Do 
it quickly enough or you will just pause/play a few times; it can take a bit of 
practice. Incidentally, the word thrice really needs to be used more... it's 
so convenient!
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 Hi.  I have several questions:
  
 1.I have several points of interest to enter that are in open space 
 and off the map in a large complex such as my dumpster and my mail box.  
 Will Blindsquare accept these?
 2.   I have been trying to use the remote control feature just added in 
 version 2 and cannot get the apple headset to work.  The mid-point of the 
 control will indeed play or act as documented in blindsquare but I cannot get 
 the track forward or back to work.  When I press these, the volume goes up 
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Re: voice dream reader, changing voice

2014-05-19 Thread Alex Hall
Open the book you want to give a different voice. Tap audio settings at the 
top, and choose the voice in there. Any customizations you make will apply to 
that book only, so you could also assign a faster or slower speech rate, if you 
wanted to.
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 Hi all,
 
 I don't know why, but I thought I read somewhere that you are able to assign 
 a voice to a particular item. So for instance, you have James as your default 
 voice. But for a specific book, you would like to use Ivona Amy. I thought 
 you were suppose to be able to do that, but I can't find any such thing as I 
 search through the app. So I must be getting it confused with something else.
 
 Also, I thought there was a quicker way to switch voices on the fly, rather 
 than having to drill down through settings and manage voices etc to change 
 the default voice. Again, if there is a faster way, I'm not seeing it. What 
 am I missing?
 
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Re: Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Alex Hall
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Re: Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Alex Hall
I strongly encourage you to not give up on it. The automagic syncing of 
contacts, calendars, reminders, Safari tabs and bookmarks, text expanders, and 
more makes the Mac a great choice for those using iOS devices. I also can't 
recommend www.applevis.com highly enough; if you have questions, post them in 
the forums and you'll usually get helpful answers quite quickly. There is also 
the email list I'm on: macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com. Finally, 
don't forget you can always use a virtual machine solution, or Bootcamp, to put 
Windows on the Mac if you absolutely need to.

To get back on topic, I forgot to mention one other aspect of a computer over 
iOS: storage space. My iPhone has 16gb of space, which I could max out at 64gb 
if I had the money and need. However, my Mac Mini has 500gb. I can store all 
the music, movies, audio projects, podcasts, audio books, applications, and so 
forth I want to. Even if you have a new Macbook with the smaller, flash-based 
drives, you have more room than most iOS devices, even at the low end of the 
Mac line. Macs support external storage (networked or plugged in directly), 
with no need for special apps. yes, cloud storage can help with some of this, 
but what happens when the internet goes down or you run out of room? The 
cheapest cloud storage I know of is Google Drive, and even then, a few years of 
that and you could have bought a hard drive with more capacity. I understand 
that cloud storage offers its own advantages, and I do use it all the time. My 
point is simply that iOS devices and regular computers are meant for two 
different sets of tasks. If possible, get both, and have the best of both 
worlds.
On May 16, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for these links. I bought a MacAir a few years ago but couldn't
 beat the learning curve and gave up on it. I still have it though and
 one day would like to make the attempt once again. I am an old windows
 user, like thirty years of windows, and the Mac just beat me.
 
 Kimber
 
 On 5/16/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap
 trash.
 
 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of
 the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of
 constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and
 some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a
 two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign
 the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use
 Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the
 following articles:
 
 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac
 
 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover
 
 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC
 than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you
 don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy
 making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
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 Behalf
 Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
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Re: Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Alex Hall
Certainly, Macs are not for everyone. I say they offer more productivity 
because:
* it's easy to assign custom keyboard shortcuts to menu items
* you can type out symbols like bullet, degrees, and so on with no special 
characters panel or anything
* there are commands to transpose two characters, delete by word and line, and 
more
* Applescript lets you do a *lot*. For instance, a friend wanted to be able to 
type in a term, have his sent mail folder searched, and copy all the addresses 
any matching emails were sent to copied out. In 45 minutes, I wrote up a script 
to do exactly that.
* VoiceOver includes several commanders that let you do tons of things in tons 
of ways, all customizable

Yes, Windows has the Mac beat in other areas. Chicken Nugget is a great Twitter 
client, and other software from Q-continuum.net is Windows-only. Word is better 
in some ways and is a better choice for some people. Overall, though, it is up 
to the individual to do the research, talk to users of both, and figure out 
which is best. My feeling, though, is that anyone who needs to do a lot of 
typing or run desktop-only apps should not try to force an iOS device into the 
role of a computer. They are meant for different things, so both should be used 
if possible.
On May 16, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 Alex,
 Thanks for the resources.
 Macs are more productive for you.
 I have used computers since the Commodore 64 in the early 1980's.
 For me personally, I find Windows a more productive environment but I know 
 there are tons of Mac users that feel the same about Macs.  I'm very glad 
 that both exist along with Linux and whatever else is out there.
 One size does not fit all and I'm not saying one is always better than the 
 other, I was merely expressing a personal statement in response to a question.
  
 I have already referred a client to the list of resources you gave and will 
 continue to encourage folks to find the system that works best for them.
  
 But I Will say, the iPhone is the best portable device since sliced bread, 
 grin.
  
 Richard'
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device
  
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign 
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and 
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio 
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of 
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy 
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double 
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap 
 trash.
  
 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of the 
 mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of constant 
 use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and some don't, 
 and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a two-finger flick 
 right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign the two commands 
 to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use Quick Nav. The 
 OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the following articles:
  
 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac
  
 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover
  
 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 
 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.  
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard

Re: Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Alex Hall
Which questions have not yet been answered? With all of the tangential 
discussion, I don't remember what we may have missed.
On May 16, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

 What about my other questions?
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 16, 2014, at 19:50, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 Alex,
 Thanks for the resources.
 Macs are more productive for you.
 I have used computers since the Commodore 64 in the early 1980's.
 For me personally, I find Windows a more productive environment but I know 
 there are tons of Mac users that feel the same about Macs.  I'm very glad 
 that both exist along with Linux and whatever else is out there.
 One size does not fit all and I'm not saying one is always better than the 
 other, I was merely expressing a personal statement in response to a 
 question.
  
 I have already referred a client to the list of resources you gave and will 
 continue to encourage folks to find the system that works best for them.
  
 But I Will say, the iPhone is the best portable device since sliced bread, 
 grin.
  
 Richard'
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:38 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device
  
 Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
 because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
 keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign 
 one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and 
 tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio 
 editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of 
 things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy 
 as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double 
 tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap 
 trash.
  
 Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
 areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of 
 the mac, but it is not at all crazy-making past the first month of 
 constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and 
 some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a 
 two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign 
 the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use 
 Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the 
 following articles:
  
 Common Mac myths:
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac
  
 Getting started with VoiceOver:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover
  
 Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
 http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
 On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 
 The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
 Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
 doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
 Audio editing with GoldWave.
 Web site creation and maintenance
 Excel spreadsheets
 
 Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
 searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
 
 I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
 processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
 with headings, etc.  
 The business of having to figure out when to interact and when you don't
 need to interact with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making.
 Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
 Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
 arrow to stop interacting.
 
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Computer vs. I device
 
 Hi folks,
 I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
 you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
 different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? Unlike
 the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew Braille
 but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?
 
 Again, I hope this isn't too OT.
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Computer vs. I device

2014-05-16 Thread Alex Hall
I'm not sure, sorry. I think Apple can answer that, though, if you give them a 
call.
On May 16, 2014, at 1:48 PM, RobH. bobs...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Sorry, you're right, we only answered the bits we had much clue about.
 A Mac has VoiceOver provided as part of the system, like iOs.  windows would 
 need open wallet surgery to buy JAWS.
 
 No idea about hebrew, do we know if JAWS can do that even?
 
 rh.
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 What about my other questions?
 
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Re: A Question About on-screen Braille Keyboard Input Options

2014-05-16 Thread Alex Hall
If you are not dead set on one-dot-at-a-time entry, give MBraille a shot. It is 
free, with an in-app purchase to fully unlock it. You enter braille one 
character at a time, holding the phone sideways. There is plenty about it on 
www.applevis.com. Aside from that, TypeInBraille is the only one I can think 
of: it lets you type one row at a time, not one dot, but it is close to what 
you are looking for.
On May 16, 2014, at 5:28 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello All,
 
 Instead of using the standard on-screen iOS keyboard, I would like to try
 out an on-screen Braile keyboard input app.  
 
 What I would like to know is if there is an input app that allows one to
 treat the entire portrait display as one Braille cell.  That is, The upper
 left corner of the screen represents dot 1, the upper right corner of the
 screen represents dot 4, the middle left side of the screen represents dot
 2, the middle right side of the screen represents dot 5, the lower left
 corner of the screen represents dot 3, and the lower right corner of the
 screen represents dot 6.  
 
 In this way, the user can simply use one finger to tap/select each dot of
 the cell to be entered and when the correct configuration of cells is
 selected, the user enters the character via a swipe or something.  
 
 Those of you who used the original HUmanWare Trekker Maestro PDA will recall
 this was the way we entered text.  It was remarkably efficient and accurate.
 
 
 Now that I think about it, there may/could/should be a way of entering dots
 7 and 8, as well.
 
 Does such an app for iOS exist?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
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More on accessibility of The Walk

2014-05-14 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
Can anyone who has The Walk check for an update? I got a response from them 
today with no details, only a notice that my question had been resolved. I 
don't know what that is about, but my only thoughts are either an update that 
fixes things, or someone ignoring my question. I'm hoping it is the former, and 
want to check that angle before I respond to them. Thanks!

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Re: More on accessibility of The Walk

2014-05-14 Thread Alex Hall
Was there an update today? I might have to just go ahead and buy the app, so I 
can address specific concerns with the company. If anyone else wants to see 
this app become usable by VoiceOver users, please consider contacting them at 
this link:
https://sixtostart.zendesk.com/anonymous_requests/new
On May 14, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex. The applications still is not very accessible.
 
 Hope Paulos
 
 On May 14, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Can anyone who has The Walk check for an update? I got a response from them 
 today with no details, only a notice that my question had been resolved. I 
 don't know what that is about, but my only thoughts are either an update 
 that fixes things, or someone ignoring my question. I'm hoping it is the 
 former, and want to check that angle before I respond to them. Thanks!
 
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Re: air drop

2014-05-14 Thread Alex Hall
Note that both devices need Airdrop. This requires iOS7, and new enough 
hardware. I don't remember the supported devices list off hand, but if the 
Control Center lacks Airdrop, chances are your device does not support it.

1. On both devices, open the Control Center and enable Airdrop by tapping the 
Airdrop button. Set it to everyone, unless both of you are in each others' 
contact lists.
2. Find the video on the initiating iPad and hit the Share button. Choose the 
target iPad. If it doesn't show up, be sure it is on (unlocked, or at least on 
the lock screen) and try again.
3. Once you tap the target iPad, the transfer will take a couple seconds to 
start. On the target, you will get a popup asking you to accept or reject the 
video; accept it, and you're done, once the data transfers.
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wrote:

 I have to teach an older couple how to use it as well as myself.  They have 
 videos  my wedding on their ipad and I want to transfer them to my iPad 
 mini.  What steps must i take to start the process on their iPad and what 
 steps are needed to complete it on my iPad mini?of
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
 start?
 
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 From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:32 AM
 Subject: Re: air drop
 
 
 I've used it successfully once. What would you like to know?
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 wrote:
 
 Is anyone here familiar with this feature and has used it successfully?
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
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Response from Makers of The Walk

2014-05-14 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
Turns out the response I got earlier *did* have text, it was just buried 
further down. Sadly, it isn't good news. Here you go:


Brad Porter, May 14 04:00 PM:
Hi Mehgcap,

Thanks for your email! I'm afraid that, due to the heavily visual nature of The 
Walk, we are not currently able to make it fully accessible. As such, I cannot 
currently recommend that you purchase the app if you are planning to use it 
exclusively with VoiceOver. I'm sorry that I could not be of more assistance in 
this case.

All the best,

Brad


So there you have it. I told him I'd be happy to answer questions, and if they 
need more feedback they should post on applevis.com. Again, please contact them 
if this app is something you'd be interested in using.

Essentially, you have to solve a mystery, collect items, and complete levels, 
all done by physically walking around. You can pick up things as you move, 
unlock special items, and more. It sounds like a great app for those who walk 
with any frequency, but it is not accessible.

What gets me is that this company's other app, Zombies Run, was re-designed to 
be accessible. As I recall, they made a big deal about it, and even posted a 
blog all about what they learned while adding Voiceover compatibility. ZR is 
also visual, yet it is usable and this new app is not? Had they said it is 
being worked on, or planned for a future upgrade, i'd be okay. But to basically 
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Re: Response from Makers of The Walk

2014-05-14 Thread Alex Hall
Here's the link. It isn't the article I was thinking of, but it is the same 
idea:
http://blog.zombiesrungame.com/post/43403504393/making-zombies-run-2-accessible
On May 15, 2014, at 12:43 AM, Tess tess...@gmail.com wrote:

 Zombies run is totally not accessible.
 I have the app, and they themselves also told me that they won't make it 
 accessible due to the graphical nature of the thing.
 I believe other folks also said the same thing recently that it wasn't 
 accessible.
 Not sure where you read that it was, and unless it has changed, it isn't 
 accessible and they don't plan on making it accessible.
  
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 Subject: Response from Makers of The Walk
  
 Hi all,
 Turns out the response I got earlier *did* have text, it was just buried 
 further down. Sadly, it isn't good news. Here you go:
  
 
 Brad Porter, May 14 04:00 PM:
 Hi Mehgcap,
 
 Thanks for your email! I'm afraid that, due to the heavily visual nature of 
 The Walk, we are not currently able to make it fully accessible. As such, I 
 cannot currently recommend that you purchase the app if you are planning to 
 use it exclusively with VoiceOver. I'm sorry that I could not be of more 
 assistance in this case.
 
 All the best,
 
 Brad
 
  
 So there you have it. I told him I'd be happy to answer questions, and if 
 they need more feedback they should post on applevis.com. Again, please 
 contact them if this app is something you'd be interested in using.
  
 Essentially, you have to solve a mystery, collect items, and complete levels, 
 all done by physically walking around. You can pick up things as you move, 
 unlock special items, and more. It sounds like a great app for those who walk 
 with any frequency, but it is not accessible.
  
 What gets me is that this company's other app, Zombies Run, was re-designed 
 to be accessible. As I recall, they made a big deal about it, and even posted 
 a blog all about what they learned while adding Voiceover compatibility. ZR 
 is also visual, yet it is usable and this new app is not? Had they said it is 
 being worked on, or planned for a future upgrade, i'd be okay. But to 
 basically say it isn't an option is beyond the pale for me.
 
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The Walk?

2014-05-13 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
Zombies, Run is a great app for joggers, and the company made it fully 
accessible. Their new app, The Walk, is a similar idea (a game based on your 
movement) that uses walking instead of running. It was released with not much 
accessibility, but that was a while ago. Does anyone know if it is now 
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Re: The Walk?

2014-05-13 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, thanks for the confirmation. The company told me when it first came out 
that it was not currently accessible, but that they'd be working on that. I 
have emailed them to ask about the progress and to remind them, and will share 
anything I hear with the list. My sister, who can see well enough to not use VO 
most of the time, downloaded the app. I tried it briefly, and was able to get 
around, but did not try any actual playing, just navigating the main screens.
On May 13, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Alex. This is not accessible. I have the app.
 
 Hope Paulos
 
 On May 13, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Zombies, Run is a great app for joggers, and the company made it fully 
 accessible. Their new app, The Walk, is a similar idea (a game based on your 
 movement) that uses walking instead of running. It was released with not 
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Re: VoiceOver help mode

2014-05-12 Thread Alex Hall
This is a new, very welcome feature in iOS7. It is similar to vo-k on a 
bluetooth keyboard, or space-k on a braille keyboard.
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Re: VoiceOver help mode

2014-05-12 Thread Alex Hall
The vo-k or space-k has been. I am certain that the four-finger double tap is 
new as of iOS7, though. There has always been a practice mode, but you had to 
go into the VoiceOver settings to find it.
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 Hi Alex,
  
 That gesture has been there I think as long as I have had an iDevice which 
 means since iOS version 4. If it wasn't in version 4 then it definitely was 
 in iOS 5.
  
  
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Re: Instapaper in Voice Dream not working so well

2014-05-10 Thread Alex Hall
Ture, but when something says it syncs, that means to me that it will delete 
from its own database if something was deleted from the master database. I only 
refreshed Instapaper a few times, and didn't realize this was happening as I 
also do a lot of reading in the actual Instapaper app, so these tons of 
articles appeared rather suddenly.
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 Well, since Voice Dream puts the articles into its own database, it does not 
 seem unreasonable to me that you would have to delete them, once they are 
 there. If you did it on a regular basis after you've read an article, you 
 wouldn't have hundreds to delete. Just a thought.
 Mary
 
 
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 Possibly, but even if I do, I consider that to be a bug. That would be a few 
 hundred articles overall, which is not going to happen.
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 Alex, I don't use instipaper with VDR, but could it be that you need to 
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Re: Instapaper in Voice Dream not working so well

2014-05-09 Thread Alex Hall
Possibly, but even if I do, I consider that to be a bug. That would be a few 
hundred articles overall, which is not going to happen.
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Re: Refreshabraille 1i

2014-05-09 Thread Alex Hall
I used one for a couple weeks. It is a very solid display and it worked just 
fine for me. My two complaints are that the charging port is really, really 
awkward to get to, and the keys are not at all comfortable to type on. If you 
want to bang out a text or Facebook update, it's fine, but if you plan to use 
it for longer text entry, consider a different unit. One cool thing is that you 
can flip it, so the keys can be above or below the display. The braille can be 
told to flip over, so it will display properly for either orientation.
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 Hi all, I'm very lucky in that I'm going to be able to get a braille display. 
  I am looking at the refreshabraille.  I was just wondering if anyone has 
 this display and would recommend it.  Obviously I know its kind of small, but 
 I sort of need to stay under the $2000 mark.  Any thoughts positively or 
 egatively would be appreciated.
 Thanks,\
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Best Buy Offering Crazy Discounts on iPhone5S/5C, Gift Cards for Old iPhones

2014-05-08 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
First, I'm sorry, but this is only Best Buy, so is probably only for the United 
States.

Best Buy is offering insane deals right now: an iPhone5 gets you a $200 gift 
card, a 4S $150, and a 4 $100. Then you can get a new 5S for $100, or a 5C for 
$50! When we went today, my sister did this, and she got an additional $15 for 
the phone charger, plus $35 for renewing her Verizon contract. She got rid of 
the iPhone4, and walked out with an iPhone5S an Otterbox Defender case, having 
paid $8! If you're not holding out for the iPhone6 this fall, and you have an 
upgrade with Verizon or the other one Best Buy supports (Sprint, I think) take 
this opportunity! It only lasts until Sunday, though.

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Re: RSS Syncing

2014-05-08 Thread Alex Hall
In a word, yes. Feedly is the one I use, since it works with Lire, but it and 
all services work the same. You can subscribe, read articles, delete them, and 
so on using any device, and those changes sync to all your other devices. It's 
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 hi, folks,
 
 I'm a little unclear on how RSS works, I think. here's how I understand it. I 
 used to use Google, and now I can't. I have an application called vienna on 
 the Mac, which is very accessible. I've subscribed to feeds individually with 
 it, but it also has a list of syncing services to subscribe to. If I do this, 
 can I use one of these online services, get a separate app for iOS, and sync 
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 sense and asking the right questions.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: RSS Syncing

2014-05-08 Thread Alex Hall
Lire is Feedly only, yes. I tried Newsify, but I much preferred the interface 
and article reading of Lire, so went back to it. Many people like Newsify, 
though; it all depends on your preference.
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 Oh good. I'm glad that I understand the concept. I'll check it out and see 
 which one I want to use. Is Newsify a good app for iOS? You also mentioned 
 lire, but does that only work with Feedly?
 
 Thanks,
 teresa
 
 Visualize whirled peas.
 
 On May 8, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 In a word, yes. Feedly is the one I use, since it works with Lire, but it 
 and all services work the same. You can subscribe, read articles, delete 
 them, and so on using any device, and those changes sync to all your other 
 devices. It's sort of like imap email, but for rss.
 On May 8, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 hi, folks,
 
 I'm a little unclear on how RSS works, I think. here's how I understand it. 
 I used to use Google, and now I can't. I have an application called vienna 
 on the Mac, which is very accessible. I've subscribed to feeds individually 
 with it, but it also has a list of syncing services to subscribe to. If I 
 do this, can I use one of these online services, get a separate app for 
 iOS, and sync all my newsfeeds with it? What services do folks recommend? I 
 hope I'm making sense and asking the right questions.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: RSS Syncing

2014-05-08 Thread Alex Hall
Newsify impressed me so little that I only used it for a couple days. Lire just 
makes more sense to me, and speaks the sync status. It also lets you customize 
what information is spoken in different lists, something I've never seen in 
another ap. Basically, the dev goes out of his way to make it super friendly to 
VO, and he is usually really good about answering questions. Applevis might 
have more details on both apps, but I don't recall Newsify enough to do it 
justice.
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 I use The Old Reader on my PC as my homepage with Feeddler on my iOS devices.
 I've found The Old Reader to be the closest service to replicate what Google 
 Reader did. It's free if you have less than 100 feeds and $2.00 a month or 
 $20.00 a year for up to 500 feeds.
 Synchronization is seemless and Feeddler is completely Voiceover accessible.
  
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 Subject: Re: RSS Syncing
  
 In a word, yes. Feedly is the one I use, since it works with Lire, but it and 
 all services work the same. You can subscribe, read articles, delete them, 
 and so on using any device, and those changes sync to all your other devices. 
 It's sort of like imap email, but for rss.
 On May 8, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 hi, folks,
  
 I'm a little unclear on how RSS works, I think. here's how I understand it. I 
 used to use Google, and now I can't. I have an application called vienna on 
 the Mac, which is very accessible. I've subscribed to feeds individually with 
 it, but it also has a list of syncing services to subscribe to. If I do this, 
 can I use one of these online services, get a separate app for iOS, and sync 
 all my newsfeeds with it? What services do folks recommend? I hope I'm making 
 sense and asking the right questions.
  
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Quicker Way to Unlock Phone

2014-05-08 Thread Alex Hall
If this is an iPhone5S, you also have the option of using Touch ID. Press the 
home or poet button to wake up the phone, then put your finger on the home 
button (without pressing) for a second and it unlocks. You must set this up 
first, but wow is it convenient!
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 Hi Joe,
 
 If you're running iOS 7.0 or later, from the lock screen, you can also flick 
 from left to right with three fingers and that should unlock your phone put 
 you on the home screen. Hope that helps.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Hi, is the only way to unlock an iPhone to double tap the Unlock button? Is 
 there no long the means to swipe to get things moving again?
  
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Voice Dream Reader is currently half off ($4.99)

2014-05-07 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
Voice Dream Reader, the hands-down best app for reading unprotected books and 
documents, is currently half off ($4.99). It comes with a ton of voices to 
purchase, including A Capella ($1.99 each), Neospeech ($2.99 each), and Ivona 
($4.99 each). So, you can currently buy the app and your favorite Ivona voice 
for as much as the app itself normally costs.

VDR reads Epub, PDF, Word, RTF, Daisy (text and audio), and MP3 audio books. It 
also includes themes, word highlighting, fonts, and other features for 
low-vision or learning-disabled users,supports remotes for controlling 
playback, reads while the screen is locked, integrates directly with Bookshare, 
Google Drive, Dropbox, Instapaper, and more.  It's just a wonderful app if you 
need to read books (again, unprotected - it can't read iBooks or Kindle books, 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader is currently half off ($4.99)

2014-05-07 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, there is a sleep timer. Double tap and hold on the play button to bring it 
up, configure it, and hit the start button at the bottom.
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 I am just listening to an MP3 audio book with Voicedream Reader. In case I 
 haven't found it, is there a Sleep Timer in this app? I set the regular timer 
 last night for 25 minutes and set it to Stop Playing but when I woke up a 
 few hours later my book was happily still playing.
  
 I must, by the way, say that I'm not impressed with these Ivona voices. To me 
 they don't sound so good and I still think that James is the best voice. But 
 I'm sure others think they are great, in any case, you won't ever catch me 
 listening to an entire book using synthetic speech so for the few documents I 
 may read with Voicedream James does just fine.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
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 Hi all,
 Voice Dream Reader, the hands-down best app for reading unprotected books and 
 documents, is currently half off ($4.99). It comes with a ton of voices to 
 purchase, including A Capella ($1.99 each), Neospeech ($2.99 each), and Ivona 
 ($4.99 each). So, you can currently buy the app and your favorite Ivona voice 
 for as much as the app itself normally costs.
  
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 It also includes themes, word highlighting, fonts, and other features for 
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 Bookshare, Google Drive, Dropbox, Instapaper, and more.  It's just a 
 wonderful app if you need to read books (again, unprotected - it can't read 
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Re: braille and IOS

2014-05-07 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, try this link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4400
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 Hi,
 Well, I finally have entered into the land of using my brailliant 40 bi with 
 my i phone some of the time.  I think I will like it for reading books and 
 things like that.
 
 anyhow, is there someplace I can go to learn all the braille commands?
 
 Some of them I have figured out, but others I don't know yet.
 
 For example, yesterday I ws trying to read a kindle book and couldn't fiugre 
 out how to go to the next page.
 I did try space dots 1, 3,5.  That did go forward, but it seemed to go more 
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Re: braille and IOS

2014-05-07 Thread Alex Hall
Each display has special buttons - thumbkeys, joysticks, rockers, wheels, and 
so on. They do different things, and that link should have links to each 
supported display where you can see what each special control does. Also, 
space-k enters help mode, the same as a four-finger double tap. Use that to 
play with keys and things to see what they do, without actually issuing any 
commands. Space-b exits this mode. Also, don't forget about www.applevis.com; 
there are several forum topics and guides on braille with iOS I highly 
recommend you read.
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 Thanks!
 Any other hints for using braille with an i phone?
 Cait
 
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 Yes, try this link:
 http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4400
 On May 7, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
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 Hi,
 Well, I finally have entered into the land of using my brailliant 40 bi 
 with my i phone some of the time.  I think I will like it for reading books 
 and things like that.
 
 anyhow, is there someplace I can go to learn all the braille commands?
 
 Some of them I have figured out, but others I don't know yet.
 
 For example, yesterday I ws trying to read a kindle book and couldn't 
 fiugre out how to go to the next page.
 I did try space dots 1, 3,5.  That did go forward, but it seemed to go more 
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Instapaper in Voice Dream not working so well

2014-05-07 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I love reading Instapaper articles in VDR, but something has never worked 
right. It will pull new articles, but ones I delete from the main Instapaper 
app remain, so i slowly gain more and more articles I've already read and 
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Can't activate Siri from Bluez 2

2014-05-04 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I am unable to activate Siri from the Bluez 2. The manual says I hold down the 
on/off button for two seconds, but doing so does nothing at all. If I hold it 
down too long, the unit shuts off. Is the command different, or am I just 
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Re: configuring VO to work with Google services?

2014-05-03 Thread Alex Hall
Nothing in VO is misconfigured, this is just Google not being accessible. There 
is nothing you can do, aside from labeling buttons, to help the app work 
better. It is up to Google to make their apps more VO-friendly, and quite 
frankly, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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 With the Google Hangouts app in iOS, swipe gestures fail to register, and 
 exploration only works to a degree. Also, VO fails to announce many button 
 labels. This problem happens both on a 4S and 5S running iOS 7.1/7.1.1. I am 
 not making any configuration changes to the app or VO which is probably 
 what's up. The service/app works beautifully both on Android and 
 Chrome/ChromeVox on OS X. I am having similar issues with the Google Plus app 
 on iOS, but, again, not on Android/Chrome. Also, when I was a Glass explorer 
 I had similar problems with the My Glass app on iOS 7.1 beta, but again, the 
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 configure VO to best work with the Google services that I rely so heavily on?
 
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Re: slightly OT : iOS simple filesystem management

2014-05-03 Thread Alex Hall
You're thinking about iOS in the context of Android. The two are different, and 
take very different approaches to file management. Where Android lets apps talk 
freely, access the same file system, and so on, iOS sandboxes them. Say you 
have two Daisy players. You can't download one copy of a book and let both apps 
open it, each app needs its own copy of the book. There is no common file 
storage beyond the music/movie library, which is tightly controlled and 
encrypted.

Consequently, root privileges would do no good, since no app can go outside of 
its sandbox no matter what. Each app can manage its own files, but no apps can 
manage common files.

If I need a way to sort random files into folders, I use Dropbox. It's 
accessible, free, and syncs over the internet so I can access that same folder 
structure online or on any other iOS, Android, OS X, or Windows device I happen 
to have. Aside from that, I give each app the file(s) that it makes sense to 
give that app, and keep masters on my computer in case I need to use the files 
for something else. Apple is pushing for a lack of folder structure, between 
iCloud syncing and its use of file tagsin the latest OS X release, so the lack 
of a user-accessible file system, aside from being a huge part of iOS' 
top-notch security, makes sense from the Apple perspective.
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 Hello,
 On my Android devices, it is rather simple to download and save files to the 
 filesystem, create directories, etc. So, my question is this : 
 1 - how do I download files locally in iOS?
 2 - how do I manipulate the filesystem? How do I create directories, move 
 files around, etc? In other words, what type of file manager/explorer 
 programs exist and how accessible are they with VO?
 3 - I know that when I jailbreak an iOS device, I am able to install an ssh 
 server and sftp files anywhere on the device as the root user. In Android, I 
 can elevate an application to root privileges. How does one do this in iOS, 
 and do I need to be jailbroken first?
 
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Re: configuring VO to work with Google services?

2014-05-03 Thread Alex Hall
Accessibility is implemented very, very differently on iOS than it is on 
Android. Just because it works on one does not say anything about the other. 
Behind the scenes, the Android and iOS apps, though they do the same thing for 
you the user, are two different projects, in two different places, likely run 
by two different teams at Google.
On May 3, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Bill Dengler codeofd...@gmail.com wrote:

 But the apps read fine on Android/Chrome so I don't think it's an 
 accessibility issue.
 
 Bill
 On May 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Nothing in VO is misconfigured, this is just Google not being accessible. 
 There is nothing you can do, aside from labeling buttons, to help the app 
 work better. It is up to Google to make their apps more VO-friendly, and 
 quite frankly, I wouldn't hold my breath.
 On May 3, 2014, at 4:15 PM, Bill Dengler codeofd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 With the Google Hangouts app in iOS, swipe gestures fail to register, and 
 exploration only works to a degree. Also, VO fails to announce many button 
 labels. This problem happens both on a 4S and 5S running iOS 7.1/7.1.1. I 
 am not making any configuration changes to the app or VO which is probably 
 what's up. The service/app works beautifully both on Android and 
 Chrome/ChromeVox on OS X. I am having similar issues with the Google Plus 
 app on iOS, but, again, not on Android/Chrome. Also, when I was a Glass 
 explorer I had similar problems with the My Glass app on iOS 7.1 beta, but 
 again, the website worked fine in Chrome/Chrome Vox. So, my question is, 
 how do I configure VO to best work with the Google services that I rely so 
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Re: Buying more storage in iCloud

2014-05-02 Thread Alex Hall
You don't need to buy more for an iPhone backup. If you run low on space, just 
de-select some apps from backing up, so they won't take up room. Music is not 
backed up at all, so you can get a backup of an iPhone way down in size.
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 Hi all,
  
  
  
  
 I'm in storage  and back up in my iPhone  and I have a total of 5.0 gigabites 
 free. I have available  4.6 gigabites My question is can I back up my iPhone 
 to iCloud wwith the available storage I have now in iCloud  or do I need to 
 buy more? .
  
 Now I'm in the section of buying more storage.
  
 20$/ a year 15 gigabites a year total iCloud storage
  
 40$/ a year 25 gigabites total iCloud storage
  
 100$/a year 55 gigabites  total iCloud storage
  
 I can't afford the 100 dollars  a year for 55 gigabites .I could do either 
 the  20 dollars a year  getting 15 gigabites  or the 40 dollar a year and get 
 the 25 gigabites .
  
 My question  is how do I pay for more storage? Do I pay with a credit card or 
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Re: Net Flix

2014-05-01 Thread Alex Hall
Is this the one you're looking for?
 http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/guide-using-netflix-ios-app-voiceover
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 Since I have no idea how to paste a URL, all I can tell you is there is an 
 excellent podcast on applevis about Netflix. Maybe someone else can post it 
 for you and me?
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
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 The easiest way to use the NetFlix app is to do a search for the show you 
 want to watch. This seems to be the only way to access and play the shows 
 using VoiceOver.
 
 -Original Message- From: Terri Elliott
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:03 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Net Flix
 
 If anyone knows about the Net Flix app and how to go about accessing it
 and   listening to the tv  shows on it I'd appreciate any information
 about how to do   it.  Thanks.
 
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Re: strange problems with mail on ipad: duplicate accounts in settings; no preview, etc.

2014-05-01 Thread Alex Hall
That's really odd, because they are not necessary. I leave hints off almost all 
the time, and have no auto-complete troubles. I start typing a name, then put a 
finger on the list of suggestions that will appear and double tap the one I 
want. If you want to, by the way, you can add hints to your rotor so you can 
turn them on and off at will without opening the settings.
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 I seem to have solved the contact completion problem and the lack of preview 
 by turning hints back on in voiceover settings; I didn't realize they were 
 necessary.
 
 
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 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
 
 
 
 On May 1, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'm having some really strange problems with mail on my ipad all of a 
 sudden. But these problems aren't preventing me from receiving and reading 
 mail.
 
 (1) When I go into Settings, I see 8 account labels, a duplicate for each of 
 my four. I don't think they were there before that way. But in the actual 
 mail app, I see the normal configuration of all inbxoes, an inbox for each 
 account, and then a button to go into the mailboxes for each account, and 
 there are four accounts and no duplicates.
 
 (2) I suddenly am not getting previews announced or showing with my braille 
 display even though I have this set to five lines.
 
 (3) I often get no completion choices when I put email addresses into an 
 address field (to, cc, etc) 
 Any ideas what is going on?
 
 
 -- 
 Cheryl 
 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears! 
 And now, every day:
 This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness.
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Re: Fleksy Now Fully Accessible

2014-04-30 Thread Alex Hall
To the person having trouble hearing completed words, auto-speaking may be off. 
Go into the settings (at the top of the screen) and make sure everything is 
configured the way you want. As others have said, you must swipe on the 
keyboard itself, since that is the part of the screen where VoiceOver is 
instructed to ignore all gestures. In Fleksy VO this area was the entire 
screen, but now it is only the bottom half.

As to a campaign to keep Fleksy VO around, that would be a step backwards, i 
feel. Fleksy has always said that that app was a stopgap measure while they 
fixed the main one, and when they made it, it caused a lot of backlash. The 
idea has always been to combine the two apps back into one, and this is their 
first stab at doing so. As others have said, it has problems, but it is the 
first version and Fleksy knows there is work to be done. The goal remains a 
unified app for everyone, as it should. After all, keep in mind that what this 
app does is what any apps that integrate Fleksy will do, so if they never made 
the main app accessible, Blindsquare, Tweetings, and all the other apps that 
offer Fleksy as a keyboard would not have an accessible typing experience 
either.
On Apr 30, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Chris Apple boy christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm with you. I can't wait to check out the updated Fleksy. I will also keep 
 Fleksy Vo until I like the new Fleksy and I see improvements.
 
 Regards Chris
 Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
 
 On 30/04/2014 09:57, Earle wrote:
 The app is working very well for me.  I think people just need to give it a 
 chance and not jump to conclusions.  They have made the app accessible well 
 ahead of their projected time table.  I will definitely be sticking with the 
 new version.  It isn't perfect but it has come a long way and I know it will 
 only get better from here on in.  I think the reason people are having 
 issues is because things are done differently in the new version.  It'll 
 just take some getting used to.
 
 --
 
 Earle
 On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:27 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm sorry but since I can't type a message with the Fleksy Keyboard app, 
 this appears to be nothing more than a not ready for prime time app. 
 Whether the menus are accessed from a menu line as opposed to the former 
 two-finger swipe up isn't really the issue. The app simply doesn't work so 
 releasing a message with the subject line of Fleksy Now Fully Accessible is 
 more than a little misleading. And the documentation still has the 
 reference about accessing the menu using the two-finger swipe up. I think 
 it's clear why they seem to be a few months ahead of when they thought the 
 product would be ready because it's not. I truly hope they will leave 
 Fleksy VO untouched and available until they come up with a product that 
 meets their keyboard integration needs and does so with VoiceOver running.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
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 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Fleksy Now Fully Accessible
 
 Exactly. Applevis has a blog detailing known bugs and updated features that 
 you should check out. Plus, their own blog said there were some things they 
 were still working on. No, the copy and clear and other options are not yet 
 there, that's part of the problem in this version. The sharing and settings 
 options are, though.
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Guys, the updated app has just been released, and the team have not had 
 enough time to update the documentation. Give them time. The two-finger 
 flick up no longer works to bring up the menu.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Aris
 
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Chuck Dean cadean...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree... This version of Fleksy doesn't play with voice over very well. 
 It is also sluggish and the accuracy seems to have decreased.
 I prefer to lock Fleksy VO in landscape position so I can use my thumbs to 
 type, but I cannot find this option in the newer update.
 It seems that the people at Fleksy have forgotten their original 
 mission... To bring a accessible keyboard to the visually impaired. As of 
 late they have changed their focus to supplying a keyboard to the masses. 
 Too bad.
 I will continue to use Fleksy VO until my iPhone will no longer work with 
 it, then I guess I'll go back to dictation.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I'd be curious what others are finding with this latest version of 
 Fleksy because I'm certainly not finding it fully accessible. I've left 
 the Fleksy keyboard app on my phone and have been updating it each time a 
 new version has been released. I couldn't type with those versions with 
 VoiceOver going and I also can't with this latest

Re: iPhone 5C

2014-04-30 Thread Alex Hall
One other thing to consider is upgradeability. Even if the 5C will do fine for 
you for now, if you hold onto your phone for a while, how will that 5C be in a 
few years? iPhone 4 and 4S owners often complain of battery drain and 
sluggishness with iOS7, while iPhone5 and 5S owners are okay for the most part. 
How will iOS9 treat your 5C compared to a 5S?
On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Andy,
 
 Nobody really knows how much else it will have apart from the A8 processor
 which is pretty much a given. The rest is all speculation, but keep in mind
 as well that it will almost certainly have a 4.7 inch screen and for many
 blind people the larger screen which of course also means a larger phone is
 not that important.
 
 Will it have an improved camera, well, yes, almost certainly. Will it have
 Touch Id? Yes, definitely, but apart from that who knows. Speculation is
 that maybe Apple will already introduce Sapphire Crystal screens this year
 which of course would be awesome, but while the rumours are starting to fly
 it is still early. My guess is that the 5S will stick around as the new
 low-price 4 inch phone as some rumours claim Apple will release an iPhone 6
 with a 4.7 and a 5.5 inch screen. I, however, could also see a new 4 inch
 iPhone 6 and a 4.7 inch model as well as the 5S. Anyhow, maybe once June 2
 comes around and we find out about iOS 8 there might be more that can be
 deduced about the iPhone 6. I do think, however, that it will be a rewarding
 fall for Apple fans with the new Apple TV, new iPhones and maybe even an
 iWatch. I could also see that the iPod Touch Fifth Generation gets an update
 again as it will be 2 years and of course the iPad, let's see if Apple will
 add a 12 or 13 inch iPad Pro to the iPad Air and iPad Mini as well as Touch
 Id.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Of Andy
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iPhone 5C
 
 Hi,
 Alex Hall is right.  You really ought to wait; the 5C is not a bad phone,
 but it's basically the 5.  You would be better off waiting for the 6 (or
 whatever they're calling it), as it will have all the features of the 5S
 (i.e. TouchID), and a lot more besides.
 Cheers.
 
 On 4/29/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I personally wouldn't waste my money. Their isn't enough of a 
 difference between the two phones.
 
 On 4/29/14, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 The only major differences are the 5C is newer, probably runs 
 smoother, and comes in pretty colors. Other than that, it is just as 
 accessible and usable as your 4S.
 
 Wayne
 
 On 4/29/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes the iPhone 5 c is accessible.
 On Apr 24, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Stacey Robinson 
 stacey...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I'm thinking of upgrading from iphone 4S to iphone 5C.
 Is the 5C fully accessible with VoiceOver?
 
 Blessings,
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Re: Noticed a fix with the BARD Mobile app and iOS 7.1.1

2014-04-30 Thread Alex Hall
I can do just the opposite and say that Bard Mobile is as bad as ever in this 
area. It is still seemingly random - sometimes music plays, sometimes my book, 
no matter what I do or what is open. Sorry to be the wet blanket here.
On Apr 30, 2014, at 12:29 PM, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings. First off, I'm using an iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.1 and the
 BARD Mobile app. Previously there was an issue with the BARD Mobile
 app when you were listneing to music or other media, then went to the
 BARD app and started listneing to a book/magazine. Then, when you used
 the 2 finger double tap to start/stop the BARD book again, the media
 you were listening to before started. Prior to the latest iOS update
 this was an annoying issue since it seemed like the BARD Mobile app
 was not using the 2 finger double tap gesture. I've since noticed that
 when I do the 2 finger double tap to start a BARD book after I have
 been playing some music, the BARD book starts/stops correctly. Can
 anyone else confirm? If this is true, then it means that we can use
 this gesture with BARD materials, which is awesome.
 
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Re: iPhone 5C

2014-04-30 Thread Alex Hall
Fair points. Still, it took until very recently for the sluggishness to go 
away, whereas iPhone5 and newer units never had the problem to begin with. You 
are probably right about the battery.
On Apr 30, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I too find that IOS 7.1.1 works surprisingly well on my iPhone 4 as well as 
 the 4S.
 
 Don Roberts
 
 
 On 4/30/2014 10:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Alex,
 
 I used my 54S with iOS 7 in the beginning and it was no problem at all.
 The 4 was slower but the most recent iOS 7.1.1 update addressed this to
 a large degree and I have some friends who still have a 4 and who say
 that iOS 7.1.1 now runs much better. As for battery, well, yes a iPhone
 4 battery would drain faster because it's a 3-year old battery and I
 don't think that has anything to do with iOS 7 but more with the fact
 that it's a battery which nears the end of its lifespan.
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Alex Hall
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:57 AM
 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: iPhone 5C
 
 One other thing to consider is upgradeability. Even if the 5C will do
 fine for you for now, if you hold onto your phone for a while, how will
 that 5C be in a few years? iPhone 4 and 4S owners often complain of
 battery drain and sluggishness with iOS7, while iPhone5 and 5S owners
 are okay for the most part. How will iOS9 treat your 5C compared to a 5S?
 
 On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 
 
Andy,
 
Nobody really knows how much else it will have apart from the A8
processor
which is pretty much a given. The rest is all speculation, but keep
in mind
as well that it will almost certainly have a 4.7 inch screen and for
many
blind people the larger screen which of course also means a larger
phone is
not that important.
 
Will it have an improved camera, well, yes, almost certainly. Will
it have
Touch Id? Yes, definitely, but apart from that who knows. Speculation is
that maybe Apple will already introduce Sapphire Crystal screens
this year
which of course would be awesome, but while the rumours are starting
to fly
it is still early. My guess is that the 5S will stick around as the new
low-price 4 inch phone as some rumours claim Apple will release an
iPhone 6
with a 4.7 and a 5.5 inch screen. I, however, could also see a new 4
inch
iPhone 6 and a 4.7 inch model as well as the 5S. Anyhow, maybe once
June 2
comes around and we find out about iOS 8 there might be more that can be
deduced about the iPhone 6. I do think, however, that it will be a
rewarding
fall for Apple fans with the new Apple TV, new iPhones and maybe even an
iWatch. I could also see that the iPod Touch Fifth Generation gets
an update
again as it will be 2 years and of course the iPad, let's see if
Apple will
add a 12 or 13 inch iPad Pro to the iPad Air and iPad Mini as well
as Touch
Id.
 
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5C
 
Hi,
Alex Hall is right.  You really ought to wait; the 5C is not a bad
phone,
but it's basically the 5.  You would be better off waiting for the 6 (or
whatever they're calling it), as it will have all the features of the 5S
(i.e. TouchID), and a lot more besides.
Cheers.
 
On 4/29/14, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
mailto:jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I personally wouldn't waste my money. Their isn't enough of a
difference between the two phones.
 
On 4/29/14, Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
The only major differences are the 5C is newer, probably runs
smoother, and comes in pretty colors. Other than that, it is
just as
accessible and usable as your 4S.
 
Wayne
 
On 4/29/14, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com
mailto:isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Yes the iPhone 5 c is accessible.
On Apr 24, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Stacey Robinson
stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
 
 
Hello,
I'm thinking of upgrading from iphone 4S to iphone 5C.
Is the 5C fully accessible with VoiceOver?
 
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson
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Re: Noticed a fix with the BARD Mobile app and iOS 7.1.1

2014-04-30 Thread Alex Hall
I don't follow. The play/pause button is standard, requiring a single-finger 
double tap just as all buttons do. That is not related to the two-finger double 
tap (or magic tap) or to headset controls. In fact, if physical impairments 
were a concern, NLS should have made sure to support remote controls so that a 
single button, on a speaker, dock, or headset, could control audio.
On Apr 30, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 They explained in the first release of the bard app that the start/stop 
 button was accessed by a single finger double tap to make it easier for 
 people who had extreme limitations of their hands and fingers.  Remember, 
 the NLS Talking 'book program is for the blind and physically handicapped.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous 
 - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com
 To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 9:29 AM
 Subject: Noticed a fix with the BARD Mobile app and iOS 7.1.1
 
 
 Greetings. First off, I'm using an iPhone 5 with iOS 7.1.1 and the
 BARD Mobile app. Previously there was an issue with the BARD Mobile
 app when you were listneing to music or other media, then went to the
 BARD app and started listneing to a book/magazine. Then, when you used
 the 2 finger double tap to start/stop the BARD book again, the media
 you were listening to before started. Prior to the latest iOS update
 this was an annoying issue since it seemed like the BARD Mobile app
 was not using the 2 finger double tap gesture. I've since noticed that
 when I do the 2 finger double tap to start a BARD book after I have
 been playing some music, the BARD book starts/stops correctly. Can
 anyone else confirm? If this is true, then it means that we can use
 this gesture with BARD materials, which is awesome.
 
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Re: screen cover

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
The Speed Dots tactile screen protectors are the ones. I've seen them, but I 
don't use one personally. Every app is laid out differently, so while it is 
true that you do get tactile reference points, they can often change what they 
reference depending on the app you have open. I found it just as easy to 
remember where things are on the screen and rely on speech or braille. That 
said, if you are in a noisy area, they might prove useful, but then if you 
can't hear the speech telling you what's on the screen, how will you hear the 
voice telling you the result of any action?
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 Hello,
 
 I read about some screen covers that have tactile marks. Does anyone use 
 them? Are they useful? Do they help?
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Re: Calendar

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, very much so. Applevis should have resources on it if you get stuck, or, 
of course, you can ask this list.
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Re: Sending my problem again: importing contacts to 5 s

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Have you emailed yourself the VCF? In theory, I think that will work - open the 
attachment, and follow the steps from there. Obviously, you'll need to open 
that email on your phone.
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 pls help me out to import vcf contacts to my i phone 5 s, withoust
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Re: iPhone 5C

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, as are all iPhones. However, I strongly encourage you to wait until the 
end of the year, so you can get a much better phone than a 4S. If the past is 
any indication, after the iPhone6 model(s) hit, you will be able to get a 5 for 
free, or a 5S for $100 with contract. The 5 and later are a big step up in 
terms of power and speed from the 4S, so if possible hold off for now. Just my 
opinion of course.
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Re: Question about how to change whether you receive notifications and an app

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Yes. Settings, Notification Center. Find Facebook, double tap it, and configure 
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Re: Question about how to change whether you receive notifications and an app

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
You must first double tap Facebook to go into its notifications settings.
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 Hi Joseph when you go in to notification center  under settings and choose 
 Facebook you should also see some options saying show in notification center 
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 Hello Alex, the only thing I saw was to reorder there was no option in there 
 to turn on notifications so is reorder is the same as turn on?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 configure the options you want from there.
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 Hello all, I downloaded the Facebook app on my iPhone and accidentally 
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 do that because I would like to receive push notifications from Facebook 
 on my iPhone but I don't know how to change it because every time I 
 download the app and uninstall it it doesn't union option to change it.
 
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Re: screen cover

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Penny, do you use it mostly for typing? I'm asking because I'm wondering about 
other typing methods. If someone normally uses a mix of dictation and Fleksy, 
for instance, would they still benefit? Do you find the reference dots for the 
keyboard help your orient to other apps, even if those apps' buttons aren't 
necessarily right under the reference dots?
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 I suppose it helps keep the screen from getting scratched, but really,
 the reason I use the tactile screen protector is the way it assists me
 to move around the screen and especially with typing on the on-screen
 keyboard.
 Penny
 
 On 4/29/14, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
 Does the cover actually protect the screen besides having the tactile marks?
 
 I don't have any screen protector yet.
 
 - Original Message -
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 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: screen cover
 
 
 Hi Alex and all, I have used a tactile screen protector since I got my
 first IPhone (the 4), and I now use the model that's been updated for
 the 5s. I enjoy using the tactile dots for orientation and believe
 that their availability reqlly speeds up my typing on the IPhone. In
 addition, it's always easy to find the DONE and the EDIT buttons. It's
 surprising how much the helpful orientation facilitates using the
 IPhone, and I recommend them to every new IPhone user I meet.
 Penny
 
 p.s., I like the model that's less busy, i.e., there are fewer
 markings, and the markings on the keyboard refer to the F and J on the
 QWERTY home row.
 
 On 4/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 The Speed Dots tactile screen protectors are the ones. I've seen them, but
 
 I
 don't use one personally. Every app is laid out differently, so while it
 is
 true that you do get tactile reference points, they can often change what
 they reference depending on the app you have open. I found it just as
 easy
 to remember where things are on the screen and rely on speech or braille.
 That said, if you are in a noisy area, they might prove useful, but then
 if
 you can't hear the speech telling you what's on the screen, how will you
 hear the voice telling you the result of any action?
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:25 AM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I read about some screen covers that have tactile marks. Does anyone use
 them? Are they useful? Do they help?
 Rena
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Re: screen cover

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Cases are optional, though everyone I know uses one. That said, some cases 
offer their own screen protectors, while others do not, and I don't know if you 
can use a Speed Dots protector over a built-in one. Mostly though, the two are 
totally independent.
On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:35 PM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:

 I'm interested to use the phone much better and also to protect it. Does it 
 mean that you also use a case for the phone?
 
 - Original Message - From: Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:14 PM
 Subject: Re: screen cover
 
 
 I suppose it helps keep the screen from getting scratched, but really,
 the reason I use the tactile screen protector is the way it assists me
 to move around the screen and especially with typing on the on-screen
 keyboard.
 Penny
 
 On 4/29/14, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
 Does the cover actually protect the screen besides having the tactile marks?
 
 I don't have any screen protector yet.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: screen cover
 
 
 Hi Alex and all, I have used a tactile screen protector since I got my
 first IPhone (the 4), and I now use the model that's been updated for
 the 5s. I enjoy using the tactile dots for orientation and believe
 that their availability reqlly speeds up my typing on the IPhone. In
 addition, it's always easy to find the DONE and the EDIT buttons. It's
 surprising how much the helpful orientation facilitates using the
 IPhone, and I recommend them to every new IPhone user I meet.
 Penny
 
 p.s., I like the model that's less busy, i.e., there are fewer
 markings, and the markings on the keyboard refer to the F and J on the
 QWERTY home row.
 
 On 4/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 The Speed Dots tactile screen protectors are the ones. I've seen them, but
 
 I
 don't use one personally. Every app is laid out differently, so while it
 is
 true that you do get tactile reference points, they can often change what
 they reference depending on the app you have open. I found it just as
 easy
 to remember where things are on the screen and rely on speech or braille.
 That said, if you are in a noisy area, they might prove useful, but then
 if
 you can't hear the speech telling you what's on the screen, how will you
 hear the voice telling you the result of any action?
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 9:25 AM, gracewelln...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
 
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Fleksy Now Fully Accessible

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
Sorry if this is a repeat post, but earlier today, Fleksy announced that their 
main app is accessible. There are still some VO issues they are working on, but 
they say that, overall, VO users can use the regular app and not need Fleksy VO 
anymore. This is way ahead of their projected six month deadline, so good for 
them for getting this done so quickly. Best of all, the accessibility carries 
over to their SDK, so apps that incorporate Fleksy will have accessible typing 
as well, once they update to the latest version. Of course, apps that come 
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Re: Fleksy Now Fully Accessible

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
Moving forward, Fleksy VO will be discontinued. It was only ever meant to be a 
stopgap measure while full accessibility was worked into the revamped Fleksy 
app. Right now there are few differences, but in the future, Fleksy will be 
updated and supported while Fleksy Vo will not be.
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 Personally, I am pretty happy with Fleksy VO, and unless Fleksy offers some 
 extreme improvement, I'll probably stay with it.
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 Sorry if this is a repeat post, but earlier today, Fleksy announced that 
 their main app is accessible. There are still some VO issues they are working 
 on, but they say that, overall, VO users can use the regular app and not need 
 Fleksy VO anymore. This is way ahead of their projected six month deadline, 
 so good for them for getting this done so quickly. Best of all, the 
 accessibility carries over to their SDK, so apps that incorporate Fleksy will 
 have accessible typing as well, once they update to the latest version. Of 
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Re: Fleksy Now Fully Accessible

2014-04-29 Thread Alex Hall
First, the menu isn't accessed that way. Instead, there are buttons across the 
top of the screen to access the settings and sharing functions.

Second, note that the keyboard now takes up the lower part of the screen, just 
like it does in regular iOS typing. I'm wondering if your accuracy problems are 
due to this new position; I have no accuracy issues at all.

The problems I've found are that you cannot review your text, at least not that 
I've found, and the numbers keyboard is rather awkward to use since it is not 
the keypad shape anymore. As I said, though, this is the initial release of the 
new Fleksy app with accessibility, and it will only get better from here, I 
hope.
On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Chuck Dean cadean...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree... This version of Fleksy doesn't play with voice over very well. It 
 is also sluggish and the accuracy seems to have decreased. 
 I prefer to lock Fleksy VO in landscape position so I can use my thumbs to 
 type, but I cannot find this option in the newer update. 
 It seems that the people at Fleksy have forgotten their original mission... 
 To bring a accessible keyboard to the visually impaired. As of late they have 
 changed their focus to supplying a keyboard to the masses. Too bad. 
 I will continue to use Fleksy VO until my iPhone will no longer work with it, 
 then I guess I'll go back to dictation. 
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well, I'd be curious what others are finding with this latest version of 
 Fleksy because I'm certainly not finding it fully accessible. I've left the 
 Fleksy keyboard app on my phone and have been updating it each time a new 
 version has been released. I couldn't type with those versions with 
 VoiceOver going and I also can't with this latest version. I'm having to 
 type this message using Fleksy VO. When I upgraded and launched this latest 
 Fleksy keyboard version, the text from the last thing I had written with it 
 was on the screen and I was unable to delete it or to get to the Fleksy menu 
 normally accessed by swiping up with two fingers. The app still appears to 
 have bugs for those of us using VoiceOver but I'm curious if others are 
 having the problems I am. I will be reporting them to Fleksy support. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Moving forward, Fleksy VO will be discontinued. It was only ever meant to 
 be a stopgap measure while full accessibility was worked into the revamped 
 Fleksy app. Right now there are few differences, but in the future, Fleksy 
 will be updated and supported while Fleksy Vo will not be.
 On Apr 29, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Personally, I am pretty happy with Fleksy VO, and unless Fleksy offers 
 some extreme improvement, I'll probably stay with it.
 Chuck
 
 On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:54:00 PM UTC-7, Alex Hall wrote:
 Hi all,
 Sorry if this is a repeat post, but earlier today, Fleksy announced that 
 their main app is accessible. There are still some VO issues they are 
 working on, but they say that, overall, VO users can use the regular app 
 and not need Fleksy VO anymore. This is way ahead of their projected six 
 month deadline, so good for them for getting this done so quickly. Best of 
 all, the accessibility carries over to their SDK, so apps that incorporate 
 Fleksy will have accessible typing as well, once they update to the latest 
 version. Of course, apps that come onboard after today will already have 
 the accessibility.
 
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