Re: [Vo]:Rossi 6 Oct Experiment Data - Preliminary Data Analysis
Hi Horace, 10-8-11 I don't understand the two attached captions for your graph. Would you please put them in plain text (ascii) for me? Also, I would appreciate any explanation of the graph you can give me. Thanks, Jack Smith inline: rossi106.jpginline: r2os106.jpg
Re: [Vo]:Asymmetry in chemical reactions wrt Rossi
Jones wrote: Micrograms, actually. Perhaps you only need a few atoms thickness on the nickel surface. In fact it might work better that way, since the monatomic hydrogen splits and keeps on going into the interstices a few atoms down, where it densifies ... Terry Blanton wrote: Ok, ok, I'm willing to give it a chance; but, assuming the entire ECat assembly is indeed copper, how much Cu can one expect to migrate into the Ni? Certainly not for the ratio of constantan 55/45; otherwise, there would be pressure leaks everywhere. Steven wrote: Culturally speaking, Rossi's eCat (eKittin) technology reminds me of a very popular science fiction genre known as Steam Punk. Steam Punk has its origins that can be traced back many decades. Curiously, within recent history, the genre has become a thriving sub-culture within the science fiction community. Steam Punk has spawned many popular novels and films in recent history. Basically speaking, Steam Punk exists as an alternate universe, one that seems to revolve around what might be called old world technology, technology based more on the rules of alchemy rather than Quantum Mechanics. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_punk This comparison/revelation hit me like a ton of bricks last night while my wife read out-loud a brief passage from a Steam Punk novel she is currently reading. I found myself thinking about the recent PDF report which includes photos of several eCats in various stages of having been dismantled. The visual flavor looking at all of those dirty copper pipes couldn't have been any closer to what steam punk technology is all about. This is speculation on my part, but it would seem as if many gifted Steam Punk writers, without realizing it, have tapped into an alternate universe - as if some part of their psyche unconsciously sensed the distinct possibility that this other world must actually exist somewhere for real. They longed to pull that reality into our universe where we could explore it in more detail. Perhaps their novels helped sparked unconscious speculation on the matter, eventually resulting in bringing Steam Punk technology to fruition in our universe. FWIW, a sub-culture such as Steam Punk doesn't thrive as well as it does unless there is something substantial underneath it. Hi All, My favorite steam punk movie is Brazil with Harry Tuttle the master of pneumatics. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Off Topic
Hi Steven, 2-21-11 I appreciate your coverage of what's happening in Wisconsin. If you are interested in the Koch financing of the tea party, see http://www.avonhistory.org/mil3/tea10.htm It seems to me that, in 2010, Archie Bunker voted for the thieves because he hates Obama. Jack Smith OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: If you're not interested in the on-going struggle pertaining to two diametrically opposing political POVs vying to steer the direction our economy may soon have to contend with I would recommend skipping this Off-Topic post. Actually, IMHO, it's not entirely off-topic. I hope our planet may soon benefit from the fallout of Rossi Focardi duo (and possibly Mills Co.) work, assuming it's not all smoke and mirrors. In the meantime, we must contend with the reality of the situation: :set nonu
Re: [Vo]:Superconductivity and LENR
Hi Horace, 1-26-11 Please define lambda0 and sigma+ Thanks, Jack Smith
[Vo]:Rossi reactor
[The Rossi reactor] Bologna, January 14, 2011 by Jed Rothwell The experiment has been underway at U. Bologna since mid-December 2010. It has been done several times. Several professors with expertise in related subjects such as calorimetry are involved. LIST OF MAIN EQUIPMENT IN EXPERIMENT A hydrogen tank mounted on a weight scale which is accurate to 0.1 g 10 liter tank reservoir, which is refilled as needed during the run Displacement pump Tube from pump to Rossi device (The Rossi device is known as an ECat) Outlet tube from the Rossi device, which emits hot water or steam Thermocouples in the reservoir, ambient air and the outlet tube An HD37AB1347 IAQ Monitor (Delta Ohm) to measure the relative humidity of the steam. This is to confirm that it is dry steam; that is, steam only, with no water droplets. Alternating-current heater used to bring the Rossi device up the working temperature METHOD The reservoir water temperature is measured at 13°C, ambient air at 23°C. The heater is set to about 1000 W to heat up the Rossi device. Hydrogen is admitted to the Rossi device. The displacement pump is turned on, injecting water into the Rossi device at 292 ml/min. The water comes out as warm water at first, then as a mixture of steam and water, and finally after about 30 minutes, as dry steam. This is confirmed with the relative humidity meter. As the device heats up, heater power is reduced to around 400 W. RESULTS The test run on January 14 lasted for 1 hour. After the first 30 minutes the outlet flow became dry steam. The enthalpy during this last 30 minutes can be computed very simply, based on the heat capacity of water (4.2 kJ/kgK) and heat of vaporization of water (2260 kJ/kg): Mass of water 8.8 kg Temperature change 87°C Energy to bring water to 100°C: 87°C*4.2*8.8 kg = 3,216 kJ Energy to vaporize 10 kg of water: 2260*8.8 = 19,888 kJ Total: 23,107 kJ Duration 30 minutes = 1800 seconds Power 12,837 W, minus auxiliary power ~12 kW There were two potential ways in which input power might have been measured incorrectly: heater power, and the hydrogen, which might have burned if air had been present in the cell. The heater power was measured at 400 W. It could not have been much higher that this, because it is plugged into an ordinary wall outlet. Even if a wall socket could supply 12 kW, the heater electric wire would burn. During the test runs the weight of the hydrogen tank did not measurably decrease, so less than 0.1 g of hydrogen was consumed. 0.1 g of hydrogen is 0.1 mole, which makes 0.05 mole of water. The heat of formation of water is 286 kJ/mole, so if the hydrogen had been burned it would have produced less than 14.3 kJ. I uploaded that to the News section. I was tempted to add: Hey, Richard Garwin: here's your cuppa tea, big guy! I will soon upload a more detailed description by Mike Melich, and I hope I can add Prof. Levi's report. I think it is all but certain these results are real. They cannot be a mistake, and fraud seems unlikely to me. - Jed - Jones wrote: Here is the website of the company founded by Andrea Rossi and others a few years ago. This company funded and owns the technology in question. http://www.lti-global.com/index.php However, apparently there has been some kind of falling-out with Rossi, and as you can see there is no mention of any of this on the website. It seems he is being marginalized. The company has changed focus to so-called clean-coal. Sad. They have no comment about Rossi, who was operating out of a different branch (New Hampshire). They have large DARPA grants, unrelated to the LENR cell, and do not want to compromise those. You may or may not agree, but it is clear to me that this drama in Bologna was hastily staged, not ready for prime-time, and will end up being a disaster for Rossi and LENR in general - when all of the details emerge. First off, he will sell not a single unit in the USA without an NRC license, which is complicated, costly and takes years. As for Europe, where the need for inexpensive energy is greater, who knows? The best thing that could happen, IMHO, is that the Italian military, their Pentagon equivalent, will take over the program and work something out with LTI as to the IP. Jones --- Jed wrote: I revised the H2 flow measurement part already. The first report I will upload today is by Melich. This week or next we should have one by Prof. Levi. These people are busy, which is why it took so long for them to give my report the once-over, and even they overlooked the part about weighing the H2 bottle. That is what they told me -- I have the handwritten notes, but it is clearly wrong. The part about the electric wires I observed myself, from the video and photos. It is just a reality check observation. I would like to know more about how the steam was condensed. They must have flushed it out of the room, down a drain. Otherwise they would end up with a very hot large
[Vo]:fusion via the epo -- What does Don Hotson think?
mix...@bigpond.com wrote on 10-20-10: There is a third possibility. It is DD fusion, but the normal path is not followed. There are at least three theories that would make this possible. 1) Takahashi 2) Mine - the energy is carried away from the reaction by a fast electron (IC). 3) Horace's - which I don't quite understand. Jones wrote on 10-20-10: There is a fourth theory (working hypothesis) from yours truly - which is can be called local energy depletion fusion... or time-reversed BEC fusion. The important points of it are: 1) Helium is an effect, not a cause 2) Energy is first depleted in small quanta, in units of 6.8 eV via disruption to the Dirac epo field, which is NOT a part of our 3-space 3) The ionization potential of positronium is 6.8 eV, but this energy level is left in our 3-space, due to a number of cross-dimensional strains, similar to those ZPE related effects that Fran Roarty and I have talked about - including Casimir cavity acceleration. 4) Small packets of energy released over time then accumulate to tens of MeV equivalent levels, causing a local energy depleted region, which is effectively extremely cold (far below absolute zero) 5) Deuterons entering an energy-depleted region act as BECs but go even further in that they can and do fuse, while at the same time returning the large local energy deficit - as payback. 6) This restores the local deficit of the Dirac epo field to effectively balance the books. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote on 10-20-10: ... Takahashi's theory is not DD fusion. It is 4D fusion, four deuterons simultaneously collapsing and fusing all at once, that's why the product is helium and why there is no gamma ray (because there are two products, so momentum can be conserved.) What I point out is that perhaps there is some special condition for 2D fusion that causes it to branch exclusively to helium, and that carries away the reaction energy in a different way. Sorry about your fast electron theory, if I'm correct, Hagelstein has set a limit of about 20 KeV for any substantial levels of charged particles from the reaction, otherwise stuff, like Bremmstrahlung radiation, would be observed. That's a problem for about every theory except cluster fusion. I.e., *if* there is D-D fusion, it's taking place within a cluster, so the reaction energy is shared among all members of the cluster. And that simply is not ordinary d-d fusion ... Basically, it appears that anything that just brings two deuterons together, like muon-catalyzed fusion, produces normal branching and results. Hi All,10-20-10 I wonder what Don Hotson thinks about this. Jack Smith
Re: [Vo]:Bugs and Bombs
test Terry Blanton wrote: The Times has some fascinating stills from the days of atmospheric testing: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/09/14/science/20100914_atom.html Of particular interest are those fast shutter images of a detonation. The images look like large alien insects.
[Vo]:melting polar ice
Hi All, 9-20-10 I curious what you think of the enclosed below. Jack Smith Leroy Ellenberger c.le...@rocketmail.com wrote on 9-20-10: ``Subject: [velikov] The Mechanics of Catastrophe: Greenland Antarctica There is little doubt that the polar ice is melting. There is however, considerable room for debate about why. The conventional view that the whole earth is getting warmer because of a supposed greenhouse effect from a build-up of CO2 in the atmosphere from combustion of fossil fuels is not really supported by the evidence. Neither is the usual dismissal of the warming trend as only another stage in a long-term natural cycle caused by variation in the output of solar energy. The warming of the poles is clearly of human origin, but is also clearly NOT caused by any greenhouse effect from burning of coal and oil. What I think it is, is the widespread use of nuclear power. The reprocessing of nuclear reactor fuel rods releases a radioactive gas, Kr85, into the atmosphere. This gas goes up to higher levels, so it is considered harmless to life at the surface. No effort is therefore made to contain it. As a radiuoactive gas, it consists of charged particles. When charged particles enter the field of a magnet, they migrate to the poles. Since the earth is a giant bar magnet, the Kr85 tends to collect at the poles. There, at high altitudes, it interacts with the natural high charge at that altitude, resulting in a net increase in charge of the poles. Strong tropical storms, including those that become strong enough to be classed as huricanes, form near the equator. These storm systems are highly charged systems. How far they travel toward the poles depends on two factors: the strength of the charge of the storm, and that of the pole that is attracting them poleward. As charge builds up at the poles, these tropical storms are being attracted farther and farther towartd the poles, bringing tropical heat with them. This transport of heat from the tropics toward the poles is warming up the polar regions and giving the illusion that the entire earth is getting warmer ... Anyone interested in further and more detailed discussion of this hypothesis and relatedideas is invited to join the Orgonomic Ecology List at orgonomicecology-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.uk'' On Sun, 9/19/10, Leroy Ellenberger c.le...@rocketmail.com wrote: ``The September 30th issue of ROLLING STONE magazine (cover photo of Roger Waters) runs a very detailed and informative article by Ben Wallace-Wells whose cover extolls: Vanishing Ice Sheets: Global Warming's Ticking Time Bomb: ON THE ICE: The world's two great ice sheets are melting faster than anyone believed possible THE MECHANICS OF CATASTROPHE: Scientists suspect that the world's glaciers are held in place by huge ice shelves, which act like corks in a champagne bottle. As the shelves crash into the sea, the glaciers behind them are sliding out into the ocean at an alarming rate THE NEW SCIENCE indicates that melting glaciers could turn 153 million people into refugees. Nature is resolving some of these arguments for us, says one geoscientist. Something had changed: Fish that favor warmer waters began appearing in unprecedented numbers off Greenland. The article starts on p. 60 and runs for eleven pages. I could not find a URL to an on-line version.''
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[Vo]:We should build no machine too big to fail
Hi All,6-22-10 When trying to understand what is going on, keep in mind that a major problem for the Oil Gang, and those pushing the Unocal pipeline, has been declining oil prices; and, regarding the mineral deposits found in Afghanistan, those hoping for another Congo must be licking their chops. Jack Smith
[Vo]:BP had 760 violations while Exxon had only 1
Mauro Lacy wrote on 6-4-10: I can't believe they can't stop the oil spill after more than six weeks. At this point it sounds like something intentional to me. Jed wrote on 6-4-10: That can't be! BP will lose billions of dollars. There is no way anyone would cause this situation on purpose. No saboteur could get within a kilometer of the place, or know how to trigger this disaster. Hi All, I disagree with Jed's statement that No saboteur could get within a kilometer of the place ...; but I do agree that BP would not sacrifice itself on the altar of higher oil prices -- maybe some of BP's competitors (There's no honor among thieves) would help BP commit hari kiri for the good of the Gang. More likely, the men in black and their kleptocrat masters may have done this to increase the priority of the Unocal pipeline across Afghanistan. Speaking of losses, if the price of oil goes back up to $125/barrel because of a perceived (or imagined) shortage, BP could make as mmuch as $3 for each dollar it spends on the cleanup. BP owns a lot of oil wells. Jack Smith Jack Smith Jack Smith
[Vo]:Krivit: Did Scientists on '60 Minutes' Lie about Cold Fusion?
Jed Rothwell wrote on 5/22/2010: Google Alerts brought me this gem: http://www.guidetothecosmos.com/radio/radio_show_1021.html Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote on 5-24-10: ... cold fusion is merely a rough concept of what might be happening. What the scientists claim is excess heat, beyond that possible with known chemical reactions, helium that is correlated with the excess heat, and, a possibly misleading fact, the correlation is roughly that expected from deuterium-helium fusion. In addition, nuclear transmutations and radiation are reported, but the main reaction does not generate the expected gamma radiation from detuerium fusion to helium. While direct d-d fusion cannot be ruled out entirely, because some lattice phenomenon might possibly shift the branching ratio to the helium branch, and at the same time suppress the gamma radiation, few now think that the reaction is simple d-d fusion ... ... cold fusion is a popular term not a precise scientific one, fusion can refer to the overall process, not necessarily the specific reaction path. If the input is deuterium and the output is helium, the energy released will be that expected from deuterium fusion. If, in the middle, neutrons are juggled, palmed, mixed with this or that, it doesn't matter. The released energy will still be the same, except for whatever energy is shoved into other reaction products. Further, except for whatever other reaction products exist, the overall process is fusion. ... Because of this, and because helium is clearly the most prominent reaction product, and the neutrons in deuterium cells would almost certainly be coming from deuterium, cold fusion researchers sometimes use the d - helium energy ratio as a kind of benchmark ... If we wanted to prove d-d reaction from the energy/helium finding, we'd want to get rid of that report (almost exactly on 24 MeV), because it is extremely difficult to capture all the helium, and thus measured helium will always be above 23.8 MeV unless extreme measures are taken, and nobody has ever nailed this down to the last MeV except maybe one experiment from McKubre ... [Please see my question on McKubre below, Jack Smith] I don't know anyone who considers that single report conclusive, there are lots of ways it could have gone astray, such as additional generation of helium during the cleaning process that involved loading and deloading the lattice ... Most researchers, my impression, now think that some kind of cluster fusion is involved. Not straight d-d fusion ... 1. Low energy fusion of deuterium through muon catalysis branches the same way as hot fusion, and generates tritium (50% branching), easily detected, and copious radiation, enough radiation that, commensurate with the observed energy, would be fatal for unprotected researhers running a Pons-Fleischmann cell showing the reported excess heat. Instead, tritium is found, to be sure, but only at low levels, and radiation is likewise detected, but only at very low levels. There is no particular reason to think that electron-catalyzed d-d fusion, for example, would have a different branching ratio. However, muon-catalyzed fusion is not fusion in a solid lattice, and sometimes things can happen in a lattice that are different. The Mossbauer effect, as an example, allows coupling of recoil energy from gamma decay of a nucleus that is locked into a crystal, to the whole crystal domain, instead of seeing individual nuclear recoil. Some early theories attempting to explain how d-d fusion to helium might accomplish this were proposed, but, shall we say, it's thin. Not dead yet, because if fusion takes place, for example, within a Bose-Einstein Condensate, what happens to the energy released? Would it be shared among the constituents of the condensate? If so, this could be a Mossbauer-like effect. 2. Uncomplicated fusion of single deuterons to helium has a huge Coulomb barrier to overcome, the repulsive forces between positively charged nuclei requires high energy, normally supplied by high temperature (or velocity, same thing, effectively). Some theories attempted to propose that this was happening in the lattice, the energy being supplied by, say, the formation of cracks in the lattice, this is called fractofusion. But this would simply be hot fusion, not cold fusion, and there would be no reason at all to think that it would behave differently from hot fusion. It would be like sonofusion, where extremely high temperatures are proposed to be created when an ultrasound-created bubble collapses. Definitely, high temperatures are created, that's clear from sonoluminescence, for example, but it's controversial whether or not these temperatures are adequate for fusion. If so, though, this is, again, simply hot fusion in an cool overall environment. In the reports claiming sonofusion, the evidence is neutron radiation! 3. Where everyone is on the same page, in fact, is that the experimental reports show some kind of nuclear reaction
[Vo]:checking my understanding of Lorentz contraction
On 3/4/07, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: I will let you have the last shot; I won't be replying on this topic in this mailing list after this message. John Berry wrote: ... Hi All, Stephen and John posted an interesting discussion on this subject in 2007, which I can post if anyone is interested. Below are some interesting excerpts from a article by Thomas Phipps. Jack Smith GPS Evidence Against the Relativity Principle, by Thomas E. Phipps, Jr.; Infinite Energy, Issue 67; May 2006; p. 22 and following. ``The Global Positioning System (GPS) compensates the running rates of its atomic clocks for their orbital motion by speeding them up so as to cancel the relativistic time dilatation. Such compensated clocks, when in orbit, run in step with each other and with an earth-surface Master Clock ... The realativity principle ... demands ... the clocks of two ... observers [to be] each running slower than the other. To avoid an inifinite logical regression to nonsense, SRT [Special Relativity] therefore needs clock rates to be appearances. Whereas to earn extra credit for predicting the observed asymetrical aging of muons (circling and stationary in the laboratory) SRT needs clock rates to be real ... SRT's event calculus [is used] to show that clock phase jumps properly account for the asymetry ... Neither actual clocks ... nor biological processes behave discontinuously in nature. The stay-at-home twin cannot reset his biological clock to accommodate the phase jumps ... A clock of the GPS when in orbit is in free fall ... Two independent relativistic effects on such clocks are recognized and compensated for by the GPS. There is an effect of location in the gravity field and a separate motional effect of time dilatation by a factor gamma = 1/(1-V^2/c^2)^0.5 ... This means that, when a GPS clock is moved from the earth's surface into orbit, it runs slower due to time dilatation but faster due to location change (being less deep in the earth's gravity field) ... Attention will be confined here exclusively to the phenomenon of time dilatation produced by clock motion ... Confining attention to the GPS atomic clocks, we note that in such clocks a cloud of cesium atoms is irradiated so as to stimulate in some of the atoms a ... transition at frequency No cycles per second ... The GPS engineers reasoned that if this same cloud of atoms were placed in orbit at speed V relative to ... the mass center of the earth ... then those atomic oscillations would be slowed by the time dilatation factor gamma = 1/(1-V^2/c^2)^0.5 due to the relative motion. To correct for this anticipated slowing, they pre-compensated this motional effect by speeding up the clock to be orbited. That is, they set it to run at a rate increased by the factor gamma. This was done in the simplest way by redefining the second to be a reduced number No' = No/gamma of oscillations of the cesium resonance. For purposes of discussion, we could picture the clock as serving a dual purpose -- containing two counters of the basic oscillations, one set to register a natural ... second ... and the other set to register a compensated second ... Each clock sees all the others as running in step with itself ... the GPS is telling us that the slow-running of orbiting clocks is not an appearance nor a perception of the earth-surface observer, but a fact verifiable by any observer ... By means of its event calculus, introducing clock phases and the Lorentz contraction of lengths, SRT correctly predicts elapsed times but leaves aside rates. If rates are considered unobservable, the relativity principle [RP] is obeyed. My claim of RP violation is based on the counter proposition, that clock rates are in fact physical observables in their own right ... SRT says explicitly that the clocks of two relatively-moving inertial observers run slower than each other. It mitigates this logical contradiction not a bit to say that reversing the motion of one of the observers and applying the event calculus resolves the twin problem. This does not resolve, it evades. If no turn-around event occurs, the contradiction persists indefinitely ... SRT ... as an event calculus, will give a coherent ... accounting of the GPS situation ... not only by fiddling phases but by contorting space (Lorentz contraction of the orbiting light-speed measuring apparatus) ... No experimental measurement of the Lorentz contraction has ever succeeded ... The objective reality of time dilatation [Jack writes: There are alternative explanations], indicated by the GPS evidence demands a matching objective reality of the Lorentz contraction ... To test the issue in a simple manner, it would be desirable to construct a dual-purpose clock, as defined above, put it into orbit, and use it in a suitable apparatus to measure light speed with each of the two clocks ... If the orbiting uncompensated [clock] measured c, this would be seen as
[Vo]:global warming
Frank Znidarsic wrote on 3-31-10; I attended a global warming conference today at the University of Pittsburgh. I was not convinced of the reality of it, is global warming real or is it not real. Hi All, 3-3-10 Global warming is real. A couple of solar cycles are on the downswing right now; so we could see some cool weather for the next few years. But long-term, the 2300-year cycle is on the upswing. It last peaked in 500 AD, troughed in 1650 AD; and will peak again in 2800. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Triumph looks in the mirror
Jones wrote on 3-27-10: ... there is no need for a liquid if we can dispense with electrolysis. IMHO this is probably a significant way in which LENR is maturing ... -- gas phase. Why not? There is little advantage to electrolysis as it actually hinders loading. The ~4:1 loading ratio of Arata (D:Pd) has been confirmed numerous times by independent experimenters. Efforts are underway from a few of those experimenters (at least one, anyway) to increase the low delta-T of A-Z by means of other energy input. That is obviously the way to proceed, as commercialization will demand a useable spread ... The easiest way to move beyond A-Z would be high voltage, but coherent light would certainly be interesting. --- Horace Heffner wrote on 3-27-10: High temperature cell operation is clearly necessary to achieve practical Carnot efficiencies. --- A Commentator wrote: *Cold fusion.* Fusion, i.e., the production of higher weight nuclei from lower weight ones, at low temperatures instead of at the high ones thought necessary. Non-thermonuclear fusion. Neutron-catalyzed? Okay, maybe. But what does that have to do with whether it's fusion or not? - Another Commentator wrote: The sanest position here is no position. There is helium, and it's correlated at roughly the value for deuterium to helium conversion -- let's call that fusion, okay? --- Horace Heffner wrote on 3-23-10: The term in question I think is nuclear fusion. There are many definitions which do not mention the Coulomb barrier. However, it appears plasma fusion is often assumed. - Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: And the reason is obvious. Almost all known fusion is plasma, thermonuclear fusion. A.k.a. the brute force method. In the ACS press briefing, Peter Hagelstein called this kind of fusion vacuum reactions which I think is a good term. Regarding words and the definition of cold fusion, I would like to remind readers that Humpty Dumpty was fundamentally right: [Source: Through the Looking Glass] `I don't know what you mean by glory,' Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant there's a nice knock-down argument for you!' `But glory doesn't mean a nice knock-down argument,' Alice objected. `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.' `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.' Hi All, 3-27-10 The discussion of the definition of cold fusion is fascinating. I find Humpty's position somewhat extreme, but not beyond the means of practical implementation, as pointed out in 1984, and as demonstrated by the effective financing of propaganda from the insurance companies during the recent health law debate. Thomas Hobbes' position is more to my taste: Words are counters; and wise men only reckon with them; but they are the money of fools. The lazy-thinking thought in my mind is that cold fusion takes place at standard temperatue and pressure; but obviously that does not provide enough difference between heat source and heat sink to do useful work, which is a pessimistic position that should be rejected (would someone kindly give me another snapshot thought to define cold fusion?) Where I really have a problem is 'plasma fusion.' ``Almost all known fusion is plasma, thermonuclear fusion. Peter Hagelstein called this kind of fusion vacuum reactions ...'' ``The term in question I think is nuclear fusion. ... it appears plasma fusion is often assumed.'' Is it possible to have room temperature and low pressure plasma cold fusion reactions? I can imagine cold fusion in space when deuterium encounters the right nanoparticles and is converted to helium. Is the background helium concentration a measure of this activity? If most of the universe exists as plasma, as suggested by Hannes Alfvén, could there be a lot of natural cold fusion going on? Jack Smith -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_Alfv%C3%A9n Hannes Alfvén - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ``Hannes Olof Gösta Alfvén (born 30 May 1908 in Norrköping, Sweden; died 2 April 1995 in Djursholm, Sweden) was a Swedish electrical engineer, plasma physicist and winner of the 1970 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on magnetohydrodynamics (MHD). He was originally trained as an electrical power engineer and later moved to research and teaching in the fields of plasma physics and electrical engineering. Alfvén made many contributions to plasma physics, including theories describing the behavior of aurorae, the Van Allen radiation belts, the effect of magnetic storms on the Earth's magnetic field, the terrestrial magnetosphere, and the dynamics of plasmas in the Milky Way galaxy.''
[Vo]:Alzheimer's and herpes zoster should be studied.
Hi Horace, Thanks for the info. I take minocycline every day to keep the Lyme spirochetes in my brain at bay. So I should probably protect myself from herpes as much as possible. Jack Smith --- Horace Heffner wrote on 3-5-10: The relationship between Alzheimer's and herpes zoster should be studied. A solid link between herpes simplex virus-1 (HSV1 and Alzheimer's has been found. See: Cold Sore Virus Linked To Alzheimer's Disease: New Treatment, Or Even Vaccine Possible: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081207134109.htm http://tinyurl.com/5ujyxx ScienceDaily (Dec. 7, 2008) -- The virus behind cold sores is a major cause of the insoluble protein plaques found in the brains of Alzheimer's disease sufferers, University of Manchester researchers have revealed. They believe the herpes simplex virus is a significant factor in developing the debilitating disease and could be treated by antiviral agents such as acyclovir, which is already used to treat cold sores and other diseases caused by the herpes virus. Another future possibility is vaccination against the virus to prevent the development of the disease in the first place. Professor Ruth Itzhaki and her team at the University's Faculty of Life Sciences have investigated the role of herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) in AD, publishing their very recent, highly significant findings in the Journal of Pathology. Most people are infected with this virus, which then remains life- long in the peripheral nervous system, and in 20-40% of those infected it causes cold sores. Evidence of a viral role in AD would point to the use of antiviral agents to stop progression of the disease. The team discovered that the HSV1 DNA is located very specifically in amyloid plaques: 90% of plaques in Alzheimer's disease sufferers' brains contain HSV1 DNA, and most of the viral DNA is located within amyloid plaques. The team had previously shown that HSV1 infection of nerve-type cells induces deposition of the main component, beta amyloid, of amyloid plaques. Together, these findings strongly implicate HSV1 as a major factor in the formation of amyloid deposits and plaques, abnormalities thought by many in the field to be major contributors to Alzheimer's disease. The team had discovered much earlier that the virus is present in brains of many elderly people and that in those people with a specific genetic factor, there is a high risk of developing Alzheimer's disease. It is not a giant leap to consider the possibility that Herpes zoster, the virus that causes chicken pox, and later in life Shingles, might be linked to Alzheimer's, or at least the onset process of Alzheimer's. Like Alzheimer's, and unlike cold sores, which are caused by the Herpes simplex virus, Shingles occurs late in life. There is a vaccine for Shingles effective for people over 60 years of age. See: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/shingles-vaccine/AN01738 http://tinyurl.com/create.php Since Singles vaccine is recommended by the Mayo Clinic for everyone over 60 anyway, it might be a very good investment, one earning unexpected dividends. Shingles is pretty horrific as it is. See the photos here: http://www.skinsite.com/info_Herpes_zoster.htm http://tinyurl.com/4aeeg The somewhat obvious potential link suggested here between Alzheimer's and Herpes zoster (varicella zoster), and possibly the Shingles vaccine, a vaccine against Herpes zoster, could be studied by survey. The percentage of the population vulnerable to Alzheimer's may take a significant change in the future. A vaccine for chicken pox was licensed for use in Japan and Korea in 1988, and the United states in 1995, and the MMRV vaccine licensed in 2005. See: http://www.vaccineinformation.org/varicel/qandavax.asp http://tinyurl.com/6nuc5y The chicken pox vaccine utilizes a live weakened virus, so its effect on Alzheimer's could be positive, but is most likely prophylactic. One in 10 people over age 65 and nearly half of all individuals who reach the age of 85 will develop Alzheimer's disease. See: http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/conditions/dementia/alzheimer/ alzheimer_qaa.htm http://tinyurl.com/yfn8239 Currently, 90% of adults are immune to chickenpox because of having had the disease as children. If you have a history of chickenpox disease, you don't need testing or vaccination, unless you are working in an environment where your immune status must be documented (such as a hospital). If you are uncertain of your medical history, blood testing can be done to see if immunization is appropriate. See: http://www.vaccineinformation.org/varicel/qandavax.asp http://tinyurl.com/6nuc5y Despite 90% of adults being immune to chicken pox About 25 percent of all adults, mostly otherwise healthy, will get shingles during their lifetimes, usually after age 40. The incidence increases with age so that shingles is 10 times more likely to occur in adults over 60 than in children under 10.
[Vo]:Theory of Little Pops Evidence in A Growing Earth!
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote on 2-14-10: ``Jones, On the surface (no pun intended) this is an absolutely absurd hypothesis [the expanding earth] ...and yet, I love it!'' Jack Smith writes on 2-15-10: Expansion of the Earth can be explained by the continuous creation of matter as proposed by Hoyle and Narlikar, and as demonstrated by Halton Arp in his exaination of quasars. Arp thinks that newly formed protons are red shifted but become blue-shifted as they age (and gain mass). I find this theory far less absurd than the Big Bang. Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: ``But I wants-ta know: where wuz all the ocean water before Earth expanded. Laying on top of everything? Maybe Earth was originally WaterWorld. Watch out for those Smokers! Oh! I don't care! This is still an elegant hypothesis!.'' Hi All, Earth is bombarded every day with thousands of tons of ice from space and, despite the dissociation of water molecules and the loss of hydrogen, is gradualy becoming a water world. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Conjectures about Alzheimer's and other things
Harry wrote: Interesting. I speculated that cell phones would have a negative effect on brain functioning. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/01/06/technology/tech-us-alzheimers-cellphones.html ``Arendash's team exposed the mice to electromagnetic waves equivalent to those emitted by a cellphone pressed against a human head for two hours daily over seven to nine months. At the end of that time, they found cellphone exposure erased a build-up of beta amyloid, a protein that serves as a hallmark of Alzheimer's disease. The Alzheimer's mice showed improvement and had reversal of their brain pathology, he said. It (the electromagnetic wave) prevents the aggregation of that bad protein of the brain, Arendash said.'' Hi All, Some people have been using Rife machines to treat Lyme disease; and the de-myelination of MS brains can not be distinguished from the de-myelination of Lyme brains as examined with MRI. So, an alternative to the above conjecture is that the cell phone is killing the spirochetes in the brain which are causing the Alzheimer's disease (Alz). It is not unusual for Lyme spirochetes to be found in Alz brain sections when properly stained. On another note, the current cold weather is no surprise because of the lack of sun spots in early 2009. The good news is that the sun spots are back. The bad news is that, although there are many solar cycles, one of the strongest is the 2300-year cycle, which last peaked in 500 AD, then troughed in 1650 AD, and is scheduled to peak again in 2800 AD. Even if there were no humans, it also would be no surprise if the West Antarctic ice sheet disappeared again, puting two thirds of Florida under water and creating severe problems for current coastal cities. If there is a deviation-amplfying methane release going on, the problem is much worse. It would be too bad if the current cold weather gave the global warming deniers enough ammunition to sink cap-and-trade. Jack Smith Harry fully quoted: January 6, 2010 Cellphones May Protect Brain From Alzheimer's By REUTERS ``WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A study in mice suggests using cellphones may help prevent some of the brain-wasting effects of Alzheimer's disease, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday. After long-term exposure to electromagnetic waves such as those used in cell phones, mice genetically altered to develop Alzheimer's performed as well on memory and thinking skill tests as healthy mice, the researchers wrote in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease. The results were a major surprise and open the possibility of developing a noninvasive, drug-free treatment for Alzheimer's, said lead author Gary Arendash of the University of South Florida. He said he had expected cell phone exposure to increase the effects of dementia. Quite to the contrary, those mice were protected if the cell phone exposure was stared in early adulthood. Or if the cellphone exposure was started after they were already memory- impaired, it reversed that impairment, Arendash said in a telephone interview. Arendash's team exposed the mice to electromagnetic waves equivalent to those emitted by a cellphone pressed against a human head for two hours daily over seven to nine months. At the end of that time, they found cellphone exposure erased a build-up of beta amyloid, a protein that serves as a hallmark of Alzheimer's disease. The Alzheimer's mice showed improvement and had reversal of their brain pathology, he said. It (the electromagnetic wave) prevents the aggregation of that bad protein of the brain, Arendash said. The findings are intriguing to us because they open up a whole new field in neuroscience, we believe, which is the long-term effects of electromagnetic fields on memory. Arendash said his team was modifying the experiment to see if they could produce faster results and begin testing humans. Despite decades of research, there are few effective treatments and no cure for Alzheimer's, the most common form of dementia. Many treatments that have shown promise in mice have had little effect on humans. More than 35 million people globally will suffer from Alzheimer's disease or other forms of dementia in 2010, according to the Alzheimer's Association. There has been recent controversy about whether electromagnetic waves from cellphones cause brain cancer. Co-author Chuanhai Cao said the mice study is more evidence that long-term cellphone use is not harmful to the brain. Groups such as the World Health Organization, the American Cancer Society, and the National Institutes of Health, have all concluded that scientific evidence to date does not support any adverse health effects associated with the use of cellphones. (Editing by Alan Elsner)
[Vo]:Climate, lunar and solar cycles
Hi All, 12-9-09 You may find the below interesting. Jack Smith - Long lunar cycles, tides and climate Posted by: Ray Tomes r...@tomes.biz rjtomes Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:38 pm ((PST)) I have studied the shorter tidal cycles due to the lunar 8.85 year and 18.6 year orbital variations. These interact to make a cycle of about 89.5 years. I just came across a page that looks at much longer lunar tidal cycles. Lunar cycles affect the tides which affect the sea circulation which is a significant climate factor. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18099/figure/F3/ Figure 3 Varying strength of the global tide raising forces (bottom plot), as in Figs. ... together with parameters (top and middle plots) that reveal the basis for the 1,800- and 5,000-year tidal cycles, as described in the text. The plots are for a hypothetical 110-kyr sequence of tidal events beginning with the moon, sun, and earth in perfect alignment and closest approach (zero separation-intervals), producing a maximum γ of 17.165° per day never again attained. Tidal events occurring near peaks in the 5,000-year cycle (near zero crossings of top plot) are connected by straight lines to reveal their pattern (which includes a 23-kyr cycle not discussed in the text). Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2000 April 11; 97(8): 3814â3819. Published online 2000 March 21.© The National Academy of Sciences A larger version of the figure is available at the web page by clicking on the figure there. Although the text refers to a 5000 year cycle, examining the top graph there can be seen to be seen to be 20 cycles in 93,000 years, so the cycle averages 4,650 years. This is rather close to an outer planetary alignment cycle period. The cycle referred to as 1800 yaers can be seen in the second graph down. It averages 1790 years and has a phase shift cycle of about 15 times that long or around 26,850 years. This is close to the precession of the equinoxes cycle. The third graph also shows periodicity at about 23,000 to 26,000 years in the envelope. The peaks there are very clsoe to 1800 years apart, perhaps 1797 years. --- Re: Long lunar cycles, tides and climate Posted by: Ray Tomes r...@tomes.biz rjtomes Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 4:42 pm ((PST)) More from the same site: The main page is http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18099/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18099/ and there are many graphs and tabvles off this. Another one is: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18099/figure/F1/ Varying strength in an estimate of the tide raising forces, derived from Wood (ref. 5 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC18099/#B5 , Table 16). Each event, shown by a vertical line, gives a measure of the forcing in terms of the angular velocity of the moon, γ, in arc degrees per day, at the time of the event. Arcs connect events of strong 18.03-year tidal sequences. Centennial maxima are labeled, with the final one, âDâ, occurring in A.D. 2151. I note that these maxima are at intervals of 177, 187 and 177 years respectively. --- Global Temperature compared to known cycles Posted by: Ray Tomes r...@tomes.biz rjtomes Date: Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:57 pm ((PST)) Comparing just the 3 established cycles in climate of 2300 years, 208 yeatrs and 54 years to the last century and a half of global temperatures shows that most of the fluctuations that last more more than a decade fit these cycles well. The 2300 year cycle troughed in about 1650 with a peak due around 2800, so it is firmly in an uptrend now. At this stage we cannot seperate any trend that exists from that cycle, so the straight line with an upward slope is labeled accordingly. The 208 year de Vries cycle was at a low around 1900 and a high around 2000. Its downward contribution will not be very noticeable for a decade or two, but its next trough should be around 2110. The cycle of around 54 years (reported by Chizhevsky as 53 years) shows troughs and peaks that fit well with the instrumental record of temperature. The next low is due around 2020 and high in 2047. The strength of this cycle explains why temperatures have stopped rising since that cycle peaked around 1998. The next job, and the most important one, is to try and split out human effects from the 2300 cycle rise. That can only be done by looking at the phase and amplitude of past 2300 year cycles. The result may be too uncertain to say.
[Vo]:Solar Cycles
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jeff Fink rev...@ptd.net wrote: THE GLOBAL WARMING SCAM 11-24-09 There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. Terry wrote: Actually, I believe they were hacked. Jeff Fink wrote: There is interesting news as a result of leaked e-mails. It shows that the scientists who have been pushing the man made global warming agenda have been suppressing and altering data. --- Hi All, 12-2-09 Enclosed below is some Cycles info which you may find interesting. Jack Smith --- A 2000-YEAR GLOBAL TEMPERATURE RECONSTRUCTION BASED ON NON-TREERING PROXIES Posted by: Ray Tomes r...@tomes.biz rjtomes Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 2:17 pm ((PST)) Tree ring proxies for cliamet have a number of series problems when looking at long term trends in climate (details in the paper), so Craig Loehle set out to make a non-tree-ring record for the last 2000 years using 18 series from around the world. A 2000-YEAR GLOBAL TEMPERATURE RECONSTRUCTION BASED ON NON-TREERING PROXIES by Craig Loehle Reprinted from ENERGY ENVIRONMENT VOLUME 18 No. 7+8 2007 http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/Loehle-2000-year-n\on-treering-temp-reconstruction-Energy-and-Environment.pdf see also http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/02/11/a-2000-yea\r-global-temperature-record/ This data is very important as it bypasses all the problems of tree rings as well as the problems of human records (urban encroachment and fiddled data etc). The teperature curve shows the historically known fluctuations much more clearly - the medieval warming and the cold period following that and before the more recent rise. There is evidently one very long cycle-looking wave that take the full 2000 years to run one cycle. That would probably be the 2300 year cycle which I posted about recently. There can also be seen a cycle of about 200 years which is the de Vries cycle, as well as an indication of a shorter cycle of around 50 to 60 years. These are all known cycles from longer climate records. There will be no shorter cycles than that in the data because a 30 year smoothing was done (unfortunately). It is my intention to try to establish the phase of these most important cycles from this record as well as to build a regression model that includes these main well established climate cycles plus some index of human carbon burning so that the regression equation can work out the correct proportion of human and natural cycles in the cause of the fluctuations. My plan is to look for global consumption of coal and oil as a reasonable approximation of human activity. Of course forest burning and other activities may well be important also, but I am not sure whether data is available on this. Any suggestions on data sources for such material is most welcome. It does look to me like there is a significant human effect because the recent rise is a bit sharper than the general slope of the 2300 year cycle, perhaps 0.2 degrees or so. A 2000-YEAR GLOBAL TEMPERATURE RECONSTRUCTION BASED ON NON-TREERING PROXIES Posted by: Ray Tomes r...@tomes.biz rjtomes Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 4:07 pm ((PST)) I wrote: It is my intention to try to establish the phase of these most important cycles ... The de Vries cycle period is found by analysis of this temperature series to be 204.4 years. Given that there are almost 10 full cycles of this cycle present in the data, the period is probably accurate to a few years. This is consistent with other determinations of the cycle period. The phase is the important thing - the best fit to the data gives a peak in 1781 and therefore the next peak is around 1985-6. Because of the smoothing used the data actually stops at 1980. It is generally recognized that the 1990s were the warmest decade in recent centuries, so that all fits together in a meaningful way. It also means that the de Vries temperature cycle will be causing falling temperatures until a trough around 2088. The longer cycle in the data is best fitted by a 1625 year cycle, but that means very little when we have only one cycle of the data. It is better to use the known 2300 year period of the Hallstadtzeit climate cycle (See my post of 2009-11-28 06:32 pm subject 2300 Hallstadtzeit climate cycle for a graph of 10,000 years of this cycle.). Using the 2300 year period the phase of the cycle is determined as being at a maximum in about 707 AD and a minimum in about 1857 AD. This entirely disagrees with that previous post which shows a minimum 1500 years ago (500 AD) when the later data is very near maximum. This is very frustrating. We do know that the medieval maximum was around 900 AD or so and a minimum at about 1600 AD. Of course these are only 700 years ago which is significantly less than half of a 2300 year cycle. So the phase of the 2300 year cycle must be considered somewhat unsure, but it does appear to be still rising. More work needs to be done here to explain why these two
[Vo]:Swine flu
Horace wrote on 11-10-09: United States Patent Application 20090010962 Kind Code A1 Palese; Peter ; et al. January 8, 2009 Serial No.: 628292 Series Code: 11 Filed: June 1, 2005 PCT Filed: June 1, 2005 PCT NO: PCT/US2005/019382 371 Date: February 6, 2008 So, a generic patent for ns1 gene swine flu's with certain characteristics, flues that were around back then. Its not a patent for the h1n1 specifically, let alone this exact version of the h1n1. Those were swine flus that were already active in the swine community, so a vaccine for them makes sense. Ounce of prevention, liter of cure, as it were. John Berry wrote on 11-7-09: 14. Key patents applying to the swine flu vaccine are held by a private military contractor Dynacorp connected with mundane things such as underage sex slaves and genocide. The Baxter patents for H1N1 were filed 27th of August 2007 almost 2 years before the virus was found which is yet to be explained. http://www.naturalnews.com/026779_swine_flu_patents_vaccines.html Hi John, 11-10-09 I still can't find this: The Baxter patents for H1N1 were filed 27th of August 2007 almost 2 years before the virus was found ... Please give give me a web reference. Thanks, Jack Smith
[Vo]:Swine flu
John Berry wrote: 14. Key patents applying to the swine flu vaccine are held by a private military contractor Dynacorp connected with mundane things such as underage sex slaves and genocide. The Baxter patents for H1N1 were filed 27th of August 2007 almost 2 years before the virus was found which is yet to be explained. Hi John, 11-7-09 I can't find this: The Baxter patents for H1N1 were filed 27th of August 2007 almost 2 years before the virus was found ... Please give give me a web reference. Thanks, Jack Smith - http://www.naturalnews.com/026779_swine_flu_patents_vaccines.html Diseased African Monkeys Used to Make Swine Flu Vaccines; Private Military Contractor Holds Key Patents Wednesday, August 05, 2009 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor (NaturalNews) To most people, vaccines sound medically harmless. They're good for you! say the doctors and drug companies, but they never really talk about what's in those vaccines. There's a good reason for that: If people knew what was really in those vaccines, they would never allow themselves to be injected with them. Aside from the dangerous ingredients many people already know about (like squalene or thimerosal), one of the key ingredients used in flu vaccines (including the vaccines being prepared for the swine flu pandemic) is the diseased flesh of African Green Monkeys. This is revealed in U.S. patent No. 5911998 - Method of producing a virus vaccine from an African green monkey kidney cell line. As this patent readily explains, ingredients used in the vaccine are derived from the kidneys of African Green Monkeys who are first infected with the virus, then allowed to fester the disease, and then are killed so that their diseased organs can be used make vaccine ingredients. This is done in a cruel, inhumane flesh factory environment where the monkeys are subjected to a process that includes incubating said inoculated cell line to permit proliferation of said virus. Then: harvesting the virus resulting from step (c); and... (ii) preparing a vaccine from the harvested virus. Aside from the outrageous cruelty taking place with all this (incubating the virus in the kidneys of living monkeys, for example), there's another disturbing fact that has surfaced in all this: The patent for this process is held not just by the National Institutes of Health, but by another private corporation known as DynCorp. This, of course, brings up the obvious question: Who is Dyncorp? And why do they hold a patent on live attenuated vaccine production using African Green Monkeys? What you probably didn't want to know about Dyncorp DynCorp, it turns out, is a one of the top private military contractors working for the U.S. government. In addition to allegedly trafficking in under-age sex slaves in Bosnia and poisoning rural farmers in Ecuador with its aerial spraying of Colombian coca crops, Dyncorp just happens to be paid big dollars by the U.S. government to patrol the U.S. / Mexico border, near where the H1N1 first swine flu virus was originally detected. DynCorp also happens to be in a position to receive tremendous financial rewards from its patents covering attenuated live viral vaccine harvesting methods, as described in four key patents jointly held by DynCorp and the National Institutes of Health: (6025182) Method for producing a virus from an African green monkey kidney cell line; (6117667) Method for producing an adapted virus population from an African green monkey kidney cell line; (5911998) Method of producing a virus vaccine from an African green monkey kidney cell line; (5646033) African green monkey kidney cell lines useful for maintaining viruses and for preparation of viral vaccines. Government collusion? One of the key inventors in these patents now held by DynCorp was Dr. Robert H. Purcell. Who is Dr. Robert Purcell? He's one of the co-chiefs of the Laboratory of Infectious Diseases of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases operating under the National Institutes of Health of the U.S. government. That office, located at 50 South Drive, Bethesda, MD 20892, is less than 15 miles away from the headquarters of DynCorp. It's not too many more miles to Washington D.C., where U.S. government health authorities awarded over $1 billion in swine flu vaccine contracts to pharmaceutical companies. Can you guess which company received one of the largest vaccine manufacturing contracts? Baxter Pharmaceuticals, the very same company using ingredients derived from African Green Monkeys in precisely the way described in the patents held jointly by DynCorp and the NIH. Remember, Baxter is the company that was caught inserting live viruses into vaccine materials distributed to 18 different countries. Are you following all this? So far, we have the U.S. government awarding swine flu vaccine manufacturing contracts to a major U.S. vaccine manufacturer (Baxter) that uses vaccine ingredients from
[Vo]:Heat is the principal signature of the reaction
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: As Bob Dylan wrote, if you ain't got nothin, you got nothin to lose. On the other hand, if the bucks start pouring in the door, hey, an attorney should get some. How likely is that? I can see the headlines: Cold Fusion Fad Hits High Schools, Physicists Hysterical Sales of LDA Cold Fusion Kits Skyrockets after American Physical Society Issues Press Release: It's Impossible! Jed wrote: That's funny, but this is no laughing matter. There has been and continues to be serious, prolonged opposition to cold fusion. Many powerful people such as Robert Park have gone to great lengths to prevent research. They have done unethical things such as destroying people's reputations in the mass media, and firing scientists who published positive results or tried to organize or attend conferences. They have destroyed people's lives, happiness and marriages. I advise you not to play games with such people. Do nothing that will give them the opportunity to get you in trouble ... Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Consider me, Jed, a lab assistant for a kind of community consciousness that will be voiced through all the people who comment, experts and others. But I'm also independent, I'm charged with making my own decisions according to the best judgment I can muster. It's my money I'm spending at this point, though I've been offered some kind of donation or loan, I'll see what comes in the mail! Jed wrote: Amateur experiments have caused more harm than good, except for the ones conducted by high school kids at Portland State University ... I sympathize with the lawmakers trying to legislate away all of life's risks. But I think their goal is unattainable in their methods may actually increase risk. As I noted here previously, I have encountered 12-year-old children who have never used a kitchen knife to cut a watermelon because their parents and society are so protective. This does not make them safer in the long run. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Yeah, I knew a little girl who was drastically overprotected by her father, and the mother, who had done a much better job with her earlier children, was afraid to confront him. The result? Very, very protected, ran away from home at 15, got involved with drug addicts, lived very dangerously for a few years ... - This was Morris County, New Jersey. And http://radlab.nl/radsafe/archives/0002/msg00768.html contains a description of ... as a teenager, except I never did anything with radioactive materials, just some oxidizers and stuff, and when there was an hysterical report in a local newspaper recently about some kid having some thermite, I was able, from experience, to write a calming report. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I'm in so much trouble already, what are they going to do? Put me out of my misery? ... Hi Abd, 10-30-09 I suggest that you do not sell kits to anyone under the age of 21. If anything can go wrong in high school science, sooner or later it will. One day, in the middle of a lab, a girl started screaming that her eyes were burning, although she had on eye protection. I grabbed her by the hair, dragged her to the eyewash, and washed out her eyes. Here's what happened: The students, as part of a titration experiment, were supposed to prepare standard HCl solutions. A beaker of concentrated HCl was in the hood along with a graduated cylinder. The students were supposed to pour a small amount (as per a calculation) of the concentrated HCl into the graduate and then pour the HCl into a beaker of water. No concentrated HCl was supposed to leave the hood. A student. stationed next to the victim, took the beaker of concentrated acid from the hood to her work area and set it on the lab bench, despite emphatic written and verbal instructions not to take it out of the hood. Fumes from the beaker drifted into the victim's eyes despite her goggles. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Mauro's Theory
On Oct 24, 2009, Mauro Lacy wrote: Please consider the following scenario. I'll talk here about two forces, but you'll see later that they can be unified: - An electron approaches a proton, attracted by both, the electric force and the gravitational force(to a much weaker extent). - Approaching the Bohr radius, an inversion process start to manifest for the gravitational force: it starts to increasingly repel instead of attract. Let's not hypothesize now about the reasons for that to be happening, just let me describe the theory. - At the Bohr radius, the repulsive gravitational force equals the Coulomb force, and the electron is stable in its orbit. - Inside the Bohr radius, the repulsive force continue growing up to a certain point, that lies somewhere in the middle between the orbit of the electron and the center of the nucleus. - After that point, gravity becomes attractive again(but much strongly), and after that, its strength diminishes(not increases) with distance to the center. And that's the nuclear force. The Bohr radius is then the result of the interaction of the Coulomb force with the repulsive mode of the gravitational force. The other orbitals are other points of equilibrium of these two forces. To see this more clearly, it's good to think about spheres of influence. Please let me give you an example: If we think of the Moon-Earth system as a whole, and refer all to the center of the Earth, we can see that gravity(related to that center), could be repulsive: something that is under the gravitational influence of the Moon, will be seen as being repulsed from the Earth. And somewhere in the middle between the two celestial bodies, a point of unstable equilibrium will exist, from which everything is repulsed in one or the other direction. Continuing the analogy, if we go now to the interior of the Earth, we'll notice that, although gravity is still attractive there, its strength now changes directly with distance, not inversely with the square of the distance. This is similar as the way the nuclear force operates. So, we have two interfaces: At a point between two celestial bodies, the sphere of influence changes, and so the direction of action changes. That's equivalent to a point somewhere in the middle of the electron orbit and the center of the nucleus. At another point(at the surface of the bodies), a different inversion process occurs, and now the force, that continues acting on the same direction, suffers a change of mode: It becomes in a direct relation to distance, not an inverse square relation. That's the domain of the nuclear force. This is another (good) way to see it: Center of the Earth (stable equilibrium) - surface of the Earth -- Point in between (unstable equilibrium) -- surface of the Moon - center of the Moon (stable equilibrium) Center of the nucleus (stable equilibrium, nuclear force domain) - surface of the nucleus -- Point in between (unstable equilibrium) -- surface of the electron - center of the electron (stable equilibrium) The arrows with two hyphens (--) mean force changes with the inverse of the square of the distance. And the one hyphen arrow (-) means force changes with the direct of the distance. As you can see, I think that the electrical force and the gravitational force can be unified, so we have only one force, with just different modes of operation according to scale, environment and sphere of influence. In the atomic domain, the electric mode of operation predominates to a point. In the celestial domain, the gravitational mode predominates to a point. But they are only aspects of one and the same fundamental force. In my humble opinion, this is the right path to grand unification. The reasons for the behavior or different modes of manifestation of this one underlying force must be sought in the domain of waves and wave interactions, and I'm working on that at the moment. The integration of the other forces must also arise as a consequence of a wave model of this fundamental force, and of its interactions. Hi Mauro,10-24-09 This is a neat theory. I like to think that forces are applied (mediated) by particles (a field is a fiction useful for calculations). So, gravity is a push (by gravitons) as proposed by Le Sage -- does this work with your theory? Jack Smith
[Vo]:strange request
Hi All, 10-21-09 Is this a scam? Jack Smith --- Dear eskimo.com Subscriber, We are currently carrying-out a mantainace process to your eskimo.com account, to complete this, you must reply to this mail immediately, and enter your User Name here () And Password here (...) if you are the rightful owner of this account. This process we help us to fight against spam mails.Failure to summit your password, will render your email address in-active from our database. NOTE: If your have done this before, you may ignore this mail. You will be send a password reset messenge in next seven (7) working days after undergoing this process for security reasons.
[Vo]:Re: Has Vortex been Compromised?
Michel wrote on 10-21-09: Steven, although hijacking the email addresses of vortex posters would be extremely easy, without Bill being able to do anything about it (if you don't know how, ask me privately), since I myself didn't get the request and no other vo than Jack said he did, my guess would be that Jack himself has an eskimo account, whose details the scammer was trying to obtain. Or maybe it was sent indiscriminately to the scammer's email database, eskimo or not, in the hope that it would reach enough eskimo account holders. This kind of scam is called phishing BTW, it's very common and most often used to obtain access to the means of payment (paypal, bank account etc) of the most gullible among the addressees. Nothing one can do about it, except ignoring it. Hi All, 10-21-09 Enclosed below is the spoof email with the complete header. I added the # at the beginning of each line of the header. Jack Smith --- # From spam...@singnet.com.sg Wed Oct 21 11:08:38 2009 # X-Spam-Flag: NO # X-Envelope-From: freenrg-l-requ...@eskimo.com # Return-Path: freenrg-l-requ...@eskimo.com # Received: from ultra6.eskimo.com (ultra6.eskimo.com [204.122.16.69]) # by mail910c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9KGAHv6030802 # for tj...@centurytel.net; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:10:19 -0400 # Received: from ultra6.eskimo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) # by ultra6.eskimo.com (8.14.2/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9KG9U81025089; # Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:09:30 -0700 # Received: (from smart...@localhost) # by ultra6.eskimo.com (8.14.2/8.12.10/Submit) id n9KG9P71024950; # Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:09:25 -0700 # Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:09:24 -0700 # X-Authentication-Warning: ultra6.eskimo.com: smartlst set sender to freenrg-l-requ...@eskimo.com using -f # X-Authentication-Warning: arrowana.singnet.com.sg: cooluser set sender to spam...@singnet.com.sg using -f # To: helpd...@eskimo.com # Message-ID: 1256054693.4adddfa58f...@arrowana.singnet.com.sg # Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:04:53 +0800 (SGT) # From: ESKIMO SUPPORT TEAM spam...@singnet.com.sg # Reply-To: team...@yahoo.com.hk # MIME-Version: 1.0 # Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 # Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit # User-Agent: SingNet WebMail # Resent-Message-ID: qurvkd.a.pfg.0ce...@ultra6.eskimo.com # Resent-From: freenr...@eskimo.com # X-Mailing-List: freenr...@eskimo.com archive/latest/25797 # X-Loop: freenr...@eskimo.com # List-Post: mailto:freenr...@eskimo.com # List-Help: mailto:freenrg-l-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=help # List-Subscribe: mailto:freenrg-l-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe # List-Unsubscribe: mailto:freenrg-l-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe # Precedence: list # Resent-Sender: freenrg-l-requ...@eskimo.com # Subject: [FG]: Unidentified subject! # X-MMR: 0 # X-Antivirus: Scanned by F-Prot Antivirus (http://www.f-prot.com) Dear eskimo.com Subscriber, We are currently carrying-out a mantainace process to your eskimo.com account, to complete this, you must reply to this mail immediately, and enter your User Name here () And Password here (...) if you are the rightful owner of this account. This process we help us to fight against spam mails.Failure to summit your password, will render your email address in-active from our database. NOTE: If your have done this before, you may ignore this mail. You will be send a password reset messenge in next seven (7) working days after undergoing this process for security reasons. Thank you for using eskimo.com! THE eskimo.com TEAM
Re: [Vo]:Fleischmann
Hi All,10-14-09 Those suffering from Parkinson's, Lou Gerhig's, MS, and any other disease where the victim is supposedly consuming himself (often called autoimmune by the medical establishment) should try at least 6 months of a mix of antibiotics, one of which should be doxycycline, at heavy dosage. If you rapidly feel much worse, you are probably having a Herxheimer reaction, which is billions of dead microbes (often spirochetes) floating in your bloodstream. Don't waste time and money with the ELISA or Western Blot. Jack Smith Steven Krivit wrote: Dear Vortex, Jed Rothwell and Abd ul-Rahman_Lomax have expressed themselves with a great deal of rage and outrage that I reported that Martin is suffering from Parkinson's disease and diabetes. Despite their mudslinging and pontification (a popular word here in Italy), the fact is that Martin's health challenges are far from private. I learned about Martin's health issues from the CBS 60 Minutes program earlier this year - as did the rest of the world. I quote: Martin Fleischmann, the man who announced cold fusion to the world, is hindered by years, diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and maybe a little bitterness. At home, he pulled out an improved version of his experiment, something that he was working on when he was hounded out of science.
Re: [Vo]:Fleischmann
Horace Heffner wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Taylor J. Smith wrote: Hi All,10-14-09 Those suffering from Parkinson's, Lou Gerhig's, MS, and any other disease where the victim is supposedly consuming himself (often called autoimmune by the medical establishment) should try at least 6 months of a mix of antibiotics, one of which should be doxycycline, at heavy dosage. If you rapidly feel much worse, you are probably having a Herxheimer reaction, which is billions of dead microbes (often spirochetes) floating in your bloodstream. Wouldn't these microbes show up on examination of the blood or in biopsies? Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ Hi All, 10-14-09 No. For example, Steiner stain for spirochetes does not stain Lyme. A special stain for Lyme spirochetes was not developed until relatively recently by Willie Burdorfer. That is a major reason for the hostility between the rheumatolgists who initially considered Lyme an auto-immune disease and the doctors who now control Lyme with long-term antibiotics. The photomicrographs of my blood made with the Bowen test were what convinced me I had it -- monoclonal antibodies for the spirochete which fluoresce when hit with UV. It is common to find Lyme spirochetes in the brains of Alzheimer's victims when the sections are properly stained. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Writing another paper. the duality of matter and waves
fznidar...@aol.com wrote: My published paper, The Control of the Natural Forces is out in this September's edition of Infinite Energy. I am working on another paper, The Duality of Matter and Waves Linked below http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/MatterWaves.pdf Mauro Lacy wrote: I suggest you abandon the particle paradigm completely, and concentrate on the extended wave paradigm ... --- Hi All, 9-23-09 You might be interested in the following from the Cycles Group. Jack Smith - ``Re: Annual cycle and the eclipse tomorrow night Posted by: Ray Tomes r...@tomes.biz rjtomes Date: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:34 pm ((PST)) Commentator 1 wrote: Here is the data from the Purdue group working at Brookhaven, in which they show a correlation between the radioactive decay rate and distance to the Sun. To get the required precision, they calibrated new samples of a short lived nuclide against one with a long life. It is not clear which half life was more affected. In contrast, I am working with two medium lifetime nuclides, Cs-137 and Co-60. http://www.sciencenews.org/view/download/id/38404/name/GRAPH_2.jpg Feshbach and Jenkins: arxiv.org/abs/0808.3156 Ray Tomes wrote: This is very interesting stuff. The ideas of people who believe in WSM (wave structure of matter) are being supported by this sort of finding as we believe that matter is constantly reformed from incoming waves and so local conditions are important. I would note ... that the phase seems slightly off from sun's distance. So we can say there is an annual cycle, but it might be cosmic rays, gravitational potential or perhaps temperature or other environmental variable. The day is coming when physics will recognize that everything is a flux and that the standing wave nature of the universe means that the incoming waves that reform everything every moment do depend on external conditions in the cosmos. ... ultimately everything is waves in my view. That would include both standing waves (matter and structures) and travelling waves (light etc). Regards, Ray''
[Vo]:The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current
Harry wrote: Foundations of Physics © Plenum Publishing Corporation 1999 10.1023/A:1018874523513 The Electric Field Outside a Stationary Resistive Wire Carrying a Constant Current A. K. T. Assis, W. A. Rodrigues Jr. and A. J. Mania Abstract We present the opinion of some authors who believe there is no force between a stationary charge and a stationary resistive wire carrying a constant current. We show that this force is different from zero and present its main components: the force due to the charges induced in the wire by the test charge and a force proportional to the current in the resistive wire. We also discuss briefly a component of the force proportional to the square of the current which should exist according to some models and another component due to the acceleration of the conduction electrons in a curved wire carrying a dc current (centripetal acceleration). Finally, we analyze experiments showing the existence of the electric field proportional to the current in resistive wires. complete paper available here: http://www.springerlink.com/content/q6634pp556m08500/fulltext.html --- Hi All,9-14-09 See Weber's Electrodynamics, by A. K. T. Assis ISBN 0-7923-3137-0 1994 Kluwer Academic Publishers Of particular interest in view of recent Vortex discussions is Assis' anslysis of the rail gun beginning on page 114. Jack Smith PS: Also see APEIRON Vol. 2; Nr. 3: July 1995, Page 79 ``History of the 2.7 K Temperature Prior to Penzias and Wilson A. K. T. Assis*, M. C. D. Neves, Instituto de Física, Universidade Estadual de Campinas, 13083-970 Campinas, São Paulo, Brasil Gleb Wataghin, Departamento de Física, Universidade Estadual de Maringá, 87020-900 Maringá, PR, Brasil We present the history of estimates of the temperature of intergalactic space. We begin with the works of Guillaume and Eddington on the temperature of interstellar space due to starlight belonging to our Milky Way galaxy. Then we discuss works relating to cosmic radiation, concentrating on Regener and Nernst. We also discuss Finlay-Freundlich's and Max Born's important research on this topic. Finally, we present the work of Gamow and collaborators. We show that the models based on a Universe in dynamical equilibrium without expansion predicted the 2.7 K temperature prior to and better than models based on the Big Bang.''
[Vo]:The Abduction Paradigm
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Sometimes I just wish it was easier for us to accept the notion that we aren't evil, that we have not fallen from grace, but unfortunately, the fall from grace is a strong belief for which significant portions of our society appear to be lost in the drama that makes it so titillating to experience over and over. Steven Vincent Johnson also wrote: From a biological perspective, instigating a genetic reintroduction / diversification program makes perfect sense. Introducing increased genetic diversity within a race of homo sapien-like humanoids that may have allowed its own genetic heritage over eons to become too homogenous is likely to increase the chances of its continued survival. Hi All, 8-6-09 On Tuesday, 7-28-09, I visited the Cleveland Museum of Natural History; the Darwin exhibits were outstanding. One of the best was an interactive display examining the effects of selection for a larger brain. This tended to require a larger skull, which then required larger hips to birth. But if the hips get larger and larger, the homonid can't walk -- very negative for natural selection. So something has to give. In this case, there was selection for a smaller face so that the face would not take up so much of the skull. But the smaller face resulted in problems with our 32 teeth: There was not enough room for the third molars (the wisdom teeth) -- in general a mess with braces a tooth extractions. This is not a fall from grace or original sin; but it may feel like it. There may be some selective advantage for an ability to commit genocide on hominids (one thinks of William Golding's The Inheritors); and we were so shocked whan Jane Goodall found that chimps had the same talent. This is almost funny, except now we have atomic weapons and germ warfare. Genocide probably does reduce genetic diversity; but the more devastating pinches have been acts of G_d, such as the eruption of Toba 70,000 years ago or the Tunguska-type event that probably plunged the Northern hemisphere into the Younger Dryas cold spell 12,900 years ago and destroyed the Clovis culture. These things are unhappy events from the viewpoint of the victims, but they merely illustrate how easily such a cobbled-together species as ouselves could join the 99% of all species that no longer exist. Jack Smith
[Vo]:The Divinity Paradigm, was the Abduction Paradigm
Hi Terry, Where did you get Barbara Bush's grandfather, Aleister Crowley? Jack Smith Terry wrote on 8-3-09: Methinks thou seeketh LAM, the entity who guided Barbara Bush's grandfather, Aleister Crowley: http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm Crowley died the year of the Roswell crash. Keel died recently. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Jones Beenejone...@pacbell.net wrote: Two valid questions: 1) what is the more precise identity of (something)? 2) what is (to present a certain appearance)? http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm Aleister Crowley's Lam the Little Grey Men A Striking Resemblance, by Daniel V. Boudillion Preface: This report presupposes two very outlandish things: that there are aliens, and that some people (occultists) have magickal powers. It is not the point of this report to prove whether or not there are such beings or powers. What is known is that there are people who believe that there are such beings and believe that they have such powers. The crux of this report is based on what people believe, which may be very different from the way things really are. Please bear this in mind. This report also recounts some very curious behavior on the part of a number of people. These behaviors and events actually did take place and are fact. However, the supposed results of these events are entirely subjective and entirely in the realm of belief. It is not my purpose to try to prove or disprove the beliefs of the people involved. It's what they did (and do) because of these beliefs that interest me. Introduction: I first became curious about a possible connection between the grey aliens of popular UFO culture and the activities of certain occultists after seeing several of UFO investigator Ray Fowler's books on the recommended reading list of a satanic website. In an idle moment I had done a Google search on Ray's book, The Watchers II, and one of the spots that listed it - much to my surprise - was the recommended reading list of a satanic group. (It is not my moral judgment that this group is satanic, the group itself calls itself satanic.) I found this both disturbing and inexplicable - for what reason would a UFO book be included in the curriculum of a satanic group, and why Ray's book in particular? I emailed Ray and asked him if he had any insight into the situation, but he was as perplexed as I was. And there matters rested for a year or so until additional information came into my hands, information that may indicate - much as John Keel himself believed (Mothman Prophesies) - that occult activity may be an ingredient of the grey alien mystery. The pictures below bear a resemblance and may hold the key. The first picture is a drawing made by occultist Alistair Crowley of an entity he had invoked repeatedly in 1918 and called Lam. The second picture is a composite drawing by Ann Direnger (Contact of the 5th Kind - Imbrogno) of an alien type reported throughout 1980's in the Hudson Valley. Having noticed the similarity, I proceeded to investigate the connection. Purpose of the Report: It is the purpose of this report to investigate a similarity and possible connection, and particularly answer the question For what reason would a UFO book be included in the curriculum of a satanic group, and why Ray Fowler's book The Watchers II in particular? Aleister Crowley: The Englishman Aleister Crowley (1875 - 1947) was one of the most notorious occultists of his day, and perhaps of modern times. Self-styled as The Beast 666, he went out of his way to live up to it with his sensationalism and self-promotion. He wrote a number of textbooks on ceremonial magick, most of which are still in print today. He also founded and was head of a number of occult fraternities. In short, he exerted a significant influence on occult circles that has continued to grow dramatically, long after his death. The Amalantrah Working: In January through March of 1918 Crowley began a series of magickal workings called the Amalantrah Workings in furnished rooms in Central Park West, New York City. These were a performed via Sexual Ceremonial Magick (his spelling) with the intent to invoke certain intelligences to physical manifestation. In actuality, the workings typically manifested as a series of visions and communications received through the mediumship of his partner, Roddie Minor. Be that as it may, at least one such intelligence was brought into physical manifestation via the Magickal Portal they created. (A portal in this context is a magickally created rent in the fabric of time and space.) The entity that came through is the one pictured above left. Crowley maintained the picture is actually a portrait and drawn from real life. This entity either called itself Lam, or was named Lam by Crowley. Either way, he considered it to be of interdimensional origin, which was the term then for extraterrestrial. In communications with Lam, the symbolism of
[Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges
Jones wrote on 7-31-09:
My advice is to read up on everything Don Hotson has
written, and then try to contact him (if he is still
alive). Last time I heard from him was over a year ago
and he was ill. Actually, he is such a good writer, and
poor speaker that everything you need is in his essays. He
understands Dirac better than Dirac.
If you understand Dirac, you are most of the way there.
Hi All,
Here is some Hotson info.
Jack Smith
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From: Donald Hotson donhot...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:14:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: HSG: Re: Lorentz on Electrostatic Self-Interaction
Donald Hotson donhot...@yahoo.com wrote on
Mon, 28 Feb 2005 to hydr...@yahoogroups.com:
Dear John [John A. Kassebaum],
I would like to suggest a new model of the 'orbitsphere'
(perhaps so different that it warrants a different name)
but which at least qualitatively solves many of the
problems with Mills' 2D model. However it will take a
bit of spadework.
The major unaddressed problem with SQM can be stated as
'What the hell are we standing on?' Take for instance the
hydrogen atom, and blow it up to solar system size. If
the proton were the size of the sun, the (still a
point!) electron would not even orbit within the solar
system--it would be 20 times as far from the sun as
Pluto. That this point-electron can exclude everything
else from this immense sphere is beyond strange. (An
'extended' electron hardly solves this problem.) To say
this exclusion is the result of some mystical 'possibility
wave' is blatant hand-waving. However Mills' 2D soap
bubble is hardly better. Even aside from its interaction
problems, how could such a structure resist the immense
forces necessary to cause it to become 'degenerate'?
My proposed solution requires but a single, large
assumption: that the Dirac equation means what it says, not
what QED has misinterpreted it to say. Dirac's equation
has four roots: it calls for electrons and positrons of
positive energy, and electrons and positrons (or at least
+ and - charges) of negative energy. Adopting a kinetic
definition of energy gives an unequivocal answer to the
question 'what is negative energy?' In this definition,
almost mandated by the Lorentz relationships, energy is
the motion of charges; mass is a harmonic (standing wave)
motion of charges.
Virtually every equation of QM (including the Dirac)
includes 'i', which calls for the function to extend into
an 'imaginary' direction. In this kinetic definition,
'positive' energy would be the motion of charges in a
'real' direction; negative energy would be the motion of
charges in some 'imaginary' direction.
According to QM, every ionic charge is immediately
surrounded by infinite numbers of electron-positron
pairs. ('Epos'). (They call them 'virtual', but there is no
excuse for this qualifier, especially since these epos are
required to account for the most precise measurement in
all of physics, the magnetic 'g' factor.) With an ionic
electron, the positron ends of the pairs surround the
electron. But this unbalances the epo, causing another
epo to attach to it, ad infinitum, causing chains of epos
to stretch from each negative ion to some positive ion,
forming the EM field. (For a diagram, see p. 58 of my
Dirac articles, published in 'Infinite Energy' issues
43 and 44, available at www.infinite-energy.com or
www.openseti.org. This is the only causal, direct-contact
model of the EM field of which I am aware.)
The gross violation of conservation involved in these
infinite numbers of epos is removed if they are not
'created', as QM says they are, but merely 'raised in
state' from negative to positive energies from Dirac's
sea of negative-energy epos. Vibrating in one 'real'
dimension, they would have no inertia, or mass. (This
also directly explains 'Zero-Point Energy' (ZPE) which
calls explicitly for this 'sea'.) Since the energy is
directed in 'imaginary' directions, this explains why
it is seldom directly measurable--but its effects are
everywhere, not the least of them being that the 'vacuum'
has at least half a dozen measurable properties. Each epo
would be a boson--and a below-zero sea of bosons would
form a Bose-Einstein Condensate (BEC). That 'our reality'
is immersed in a vast BEC explains a great deal.
Plasma physicists point out that the universe is
99.999% plasma, 'solid matter' making up less than
.001%. The stars, galaxies, and interstellar gas are
all plasmas. Plasma is the 'natural state'; we are the
far-out exceptions. And plasmas follow their own rules,
many of their characteristics being similar to those of
a BEC, exhibiting self-organization, being excellent
conductors, superfluid, and non-local. I suggest that
these characteristics are derived from the underlying BEC.
However I suggest we can eliminate that .001%. When an
electron is 'captured' by a proton, I suggest that it
supplies the 'order parameter', the phase angle which
allows it to construct a crystalline structure (BEC)
of epos surrounding the
[Vo]:Doctors
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: John Berry wrote: Final note, hearts are often weakened by parasites and a good course of antiparasitics can be highly beneficial. What parasites, specifically? Curious. Hi All, 7-31-09 Parasites? To name one, the Lyme spirochete, which probably has caused my atrial fibrillation by consuming too much of the bundle branch in my heart. I never recall having a heart attack. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Perspective on Heat Vs. Everything Else
Jed wrote: ... I do not see many prospects for a theory. Steven Krivit wrote on 7-22-09: Sorry Jed, but you asked for this - Of course you don't see many prospects for theory. Your words: I don't care about theory. Steven Krivit wrote previously: Considering that the mystery to 100% PxH is unsolved, what sense does it make to wear blinders with any of the related aspects of LENR research, be they transmutation, tritium, neutrons or theory? Jed wrote: No one is wearing blinders ... I have not examined the other claims because frankly, I only care about heat. If they have not nailed down heat who cares what else they have? I don't give a fig about tritium or neutrons or shrinking Mills hydrinos for that matter, and especially I don't care about theory. Steven Krivit wrote: You meant something else? Jed wrote on 7-22-09: ``I meant exactly what I said, as always. I, Jed, have no use for theory. Why would I do with it? I do not understand it and I cannot distinguish a good theory from a bad one. It may come to pass that the definitive theory comes to me first. In that event I shall spend several hours correcting spelling, tense, person and number, and probably the formatting of equation numbers and footnotes (which most authors get wrong), without having the foggiest notion that I am dealing with the be-all, end-all answer to cold fusion. I am not the only one. A distinguished experimentalist recently said that a theory paper it might as well be in Chinese for all I can make of it. That's another problem: even if a good theory emerges, many experimentalists will not pay attention because they do not understand modern theories. They skip the ICCF theory sessions. There is a gap between the two groups. But anyway, just because I have no use for theory, that does not mean other people have no use for theory. I doubt many people have a use for a 11-year-old guide to Borland Delphi Pascal Ver. 4.0, but I need it! ... When researchers botch one measurement or use what I consider the wrong technique, or an overly complex and unreliable technique, I tend to doubt they got the other parts right. For example Gene Mallove told me that Bush Eagleton were trying to use a standard calorimeter (MY calorimeter!) at a temperature close to 0C by immersing it in ice slush. He described this a nightmare of condensation, paper towels, and phase changes from which no good data could emerge. After that, they failed to deliver said calorimeter for our use. The experience left me with grave doubts about their competence and their previous results. I do not trust the technical judgement of people who do this sort of thing. On the other hand everyone makes mistakes. Skilled people sometimes do sloppy work, so you have to cut people some slack.'' Hi All, 7-23-09 Jed is right: all that counts are the experimental results. On the other hand, I'm fascinated by theories and collect them like some people collect butterflies. The big problem with theories is that they are exclusionary and limit experimentation by believers, who also want to limit everyone else. Democritus had it right: ``All that exists are atoms [things which cannot be cut] and the void. All else is speculation [and design equations]. Incidentally, those with the best design equations (recipes, models, procedures, etc.) and political connections win. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Turtur and ZPE
Hi All, 7-16-09 Is there anything to this? Jack Smith http://veritasshow.blogspot.com/2009/06/german-scientist-posts-complete-free.html Monday, June 29, 2009 German Scientist Posts Complete Free Energy Documentation online Thanks to UFOBlogger for finding this: ``German Scientist Posts Complete Free Energy Documentation online Professor Claus W. Turter of the University of Applied Sciences Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel, Germany has posted complete online documentation on the conversion of Vacuum Energy! Conversion of the Vacuum-energy of electromagnetic zero point oscillations into Classical Mechanical Energy The principle has been successfully verified with a measurement of the machine power converted from vacuum-energy ! The practical benefit for the power supply industry free from environmental pollution is obvious: If the principle can be applied on industrial scale, it would not be necessary in future to combust matter in order to supply mankind with energy. It's all here - theoretical models and equations, diagrams, experiments, applications, references, everything.'' - http://public.rz.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/~turtur/physik/ Prof. Dr. Claus W. Turtur University of Applied Sciences Braunschweig- Wolfenbüttel Salzdahlumer Straße 46 / 48 GERMANY - 38302 Wolfenbüttel E-mail: c-w.tur...@fh-wolfenbuettel.de ``... Conversion of Vacuum-Energy into Mechanical Energy under Vacuum Conditions In order to make vacuum-energy perceptible in the laboratory the author developed a theoretical approach, which he experimentally verified with a special electrostatic rotor that converts vacuum-energy into classical mechanical energy causing a rotation of the rotor. Because all former experiments had been executed under air at room pressure, there was the request on various occasions to implement the experiment into the vacuum in order to prove, that the movement of the rotor was not caused by an artefact due to the recoil of ionized gas molecules. For this purpose the setup was now realized at the absence of air, this means within a vacuum at a pressure sufficient to exclude gas discharge. The experiments have been performed at the University of Magdeburg. It is now successfully proven that the experimental verification of conversion of vacuum-energy into mechanical energy is not an artefact caused by ionized gas molecules. - Full Text: Article in English (PDF)(see also PHILICA.COM, ISSN 1751-3030, Article number 141, 3. Dez. 2008) Links: There are some other experimental investigations, which have a connection with the work reported here. Three of them shall be mentioned in the following lines: (1.) Anders O. Wistrom and Armik V. M. Khachatourian from the Department of Chemical and Environmental Engineering, University of California, Riverside, California 92521 experimentally verified the rotation of electrostatically charged spheres. They did not publish a theoretical explanation, but they have a well elaborate experiment, which they published in the Journal Applied Physics Letters. The link to their publication is here. (2.) At the American space institute of NASA, Hector Luis Serrano (President of Gravitec Inc.) investigated the forces onto an asymmetrical capacitor inside the vacuum. He observed forces which are rather similar to the forces which I present on my page here. The NASA results have been obtained in July 2003 but due to confidentinal reasons, they have been published only in December 2007. The link is here. (3.) Harald Chmela (in Austria) began to try a further development of my rotor for the conversion of vacuum energy, but it does not yet work. His problem seems to be mainly a problem of friction in the mechanical bearing of the rotor. The link to his work is here, and the link to my explanation of his friction problem is here. It would be nice and desirable, if Mr. Chmela would be successful in his further development ...''
[Vo]:More From the Steorn Jury
Craig Haynie (Houston) wrote on 7-11-09: It reminds me of Greg Watson. We never could figure out what his motive was. He claimed to have found an anomaly in magnetic fields that he could exploit. He claimed to have built a magnetic track which would move a ball around the track indefinitely. But it could never be looked at independently. -- Steven Vincent Johnson wrote on 7-11-09: From Mr. Lawrence: ... ``I don't know why he [Madoff] didn't run.'' ... Shoot! I'm still alive! I thought I'd surely die in my bed of silken sheets before everything unraveled. -- Hi All, Greg never sent me a SMOT (or refunded the $130); but I always felt that he saw the effect. Maybe it was a Hutchinson effect -- he may have been working at the conjunction of powerful telluric forces. Jack Smith
[Vo]:cnn.com: Google takes on Windows with Chrome OS
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 7-9-09: What's Chrome got? Lovely UI. What's it missing? Cookie control!! You get better tracking cookie control with IE than you do with Chrome! Unless Google has changed this, the concept of arbitrarily limiting cookie lifetimes to the life of the session (with a list of exceptions) is completely missing from Chrome. I believe there were some other cookie control issues as well, but that was the big one, which really stood out for me: Use Chrome, be tracked, it's as simple as that -- and the old argument that they can't match up the cookies with *you* is either already false or certainly likely to be false in the future. If Google can push something on consumers which frees them from Microsoft while simultaneously freeing the vendors from the nasty cookie controls of Firefox they'll view it as a home run, I'm sure. Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 7-9-09: ... Microsoft, too --- consider particularly the mouse mess at Microsoft a while back: http://www.grc.com/wmf/wmf.htm Finally, open source OS code is likely to be *better* *vetted* than closed source code. It's not clear the mouse mess could have remained hidden in Linux for nearly so long as it was in Microsoft's OS -- it lurked in there for years before someone noticed it, and Microsoft was slow to admit there was a problem or do anything about it after someone found out, which resulted in a huge number of instances of exploits. Part of the reason it can be so hard to do anything about problems like this in a closed source system, of course, is that almost nobody gets to look at the code, so the pool of potential whistle blowers is very restricted. For a second example, google rootkit and sony to find out just how badly you can get nailed when you're dealing with closed source. Once again, the ones who were playing fast and loose with the internals were not hackers (they can't, they're not in a position to do that). They were the inhouse programmers at Sony, working with full access to the (secret) source. And the ones who got nailed were the general public, duffer and expert alike, who are not allowed to see the secret sources, and so can't know what's actually running on their systems... Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 7-9-09: ... in defense of Windows, keep in mind that the single biggest reason it gets attacked 50 times more frequently than Linux is that it's about 50 times more popular. If your goal is to take over a few hundred systems, and you figure your trojan/retrovirus/whatever is only going to successfully infect one system in 10,000 which it contacts, you'd better pick a popular target. And the professional hackers, the ones who create zombie armies for DOS attacks and who-knows-what other nefarious schemes, are shooting for thousands or tens of thousands of 'slave' systems, so they need a really big pool of targets to go after. Hi All, After having tried most of them, I think Netscape 3 for Linux is the best browser. It allows me to direct cookies to /dev/null, that big bit bucket in the sky, without upsetting the purveyors that are so insistent that their cookies be accepted. And, with Java, Java Script, and images turned off, it goes like greased lightning. In judging Windows popularity, worldwide usage should be considered, especially in India. I have the feeling that all Windows systems, except maybe 3.1, are compromised by Promise software. Other countries may be reluctant to let that demon in, and may insist on inspectable software like Linux. Jack Smith
[Vo]:2012 and Nebran Planet X
Hi All, 7-4-09 I'm enclosing some snippets on 2012 which you may find interesting. Jack Smith Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 thomas malloy wrote: ``Vortexians; Those of you who have been on the list for a while know that I have a fascination with the apocalypse, and a gallows sense of humor. The author of this website was interviewed this morning on C to C AM, no matter what you think about his theories, you will, IMHO, appreciate the art that went into the introductory page. http://www.apocalypse2012.com . Momma mia, that's a spicy webpage! I'm reminded of a Tesla Society conference around 1992 where someone mentioned the wall in 2012, and remote viewing. That was before I heard about Hal Puthoff's role in the development of remote viewing, 2012 seemed a long way off at the time.'' -- http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-22-2004/Bell-InterviewPartOne.htm Hoagland Wilcock on Coast to Coast 5-15/16-04 [AB is Art Bell] ``AB: From the high desert in the great American southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon -- as the time zone may dictate -- all of them covered like a blanket by this program, Coast to Coast AM. I'm Art Bell. It's the weekend, and I am honored to be with you on a Saturday night going into Sunday morning, and of course tomorrow night as well. I have some shocking and tragic news for you at the top of the program and I'm sure Richard's gonna have a lot to say about this and will probably fill me in on details I don't yet have. But what it boils down to is that Dr Eugene Mallove is dead. And it is indeed with great sadness that we report the passing of Gene Mallove who died, no, correction, was killed, on May 14th apparently due to some sort of -- we don't know about this -- allegedly, some are saying 'some kind of property dispute'. It is considered by the police to be a homicide and an investigation is under way now ... AB: I know this has great meaning for Richard, but I? RH: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're not getting to the good stuff yet. If you look at that line -- where it is in the sky -- and you extend that line (like a celestial Meridian) out into space -- so it goes through, you know, where Sirius is in the sky, if you track twelve degrees to the East -- one degree per year (which is how Sirius will move, in relation to the Earth, and in relation to the Galactic Center) -- when that alignment occurs at midnight at 2012 -- that will be the Winter Solstice, and 'D-Day' will have arrived! In other words, that [planned Giza 2000] Ceremony marked the beginning of a 12-year [countdown] 'clock!' DW: Right -- I got it! RH: The final countdown to 'something' -- happening in 2012 -- by these guys, led by Zahi, who know 'something' -- that they are not wanting the rest of us to figure out! ...'' - Commentator 1 wrote: ``From my March 20, 2008 email: The Sunday before last, a similar browsing trip to Border's brought Mar/Apr [2009] SCIENCE Illustrated to my attention for The Volcano that Lied: How Santorini Is Changing History 3,600 Year After It Blew, pp. 46-53. The article describes how the new date for the Minoan eruption of Thera was determined and is shown by the Greenland ice cores to be 1642 BC and by radiocarbon dating, 1627-1600 BC, while not mentioning the tree-ring date of 1627 BC. The radiocarbon date was obtained by high-precision dating of an olive branch that was trapped in the tephra from the eruption. Forgive any year or two discrepancies, as with the Greenland ice core date for eruption of Thera. The point is that the tree ring climate signal for Thera is dated 1628 BCE, based on the frost damage at that time, while the acidity signal for the eruption in Greenland is 1642 BCE (originally reported to be 1645 BCE in 1987). The C-14 date for the eruption based on an olive branch trapped in the tephra is closer to the tree ring date than the ice core date. Mike Baillie has published on this discrepancy, but I am not aware of the latest news on this score.'' Commentator 2 wrote on 7-1-09: Why is the date 1628 BCE important? I can remember that long ago I adhered to that date. Now I think that it is 1588 BCE. After all, there are not (geologically speaking) all that many years between 1645 BCE (which I never heard of before) and 1588 BCE. What difference would a few years, even half a century, make here? Please explain. Thanks. I'll appreciate it. Commentator 1 wrote: ... annual-looking layers based on the dating of ancient volcanic eruptions. For example, the tree ring date for the Minoan eruption of Thera is 1628 B.C.E. Commentator 2 wrote: Thanks for explaining that. I have included your comments for my Planet X list-members. Now I know why certain people were focused on the date of 1628 BCE, back 30-odd years ago. That was a Thera/Santornini guesstimate. As we know, in Worlds In Collision Dr. Velikovsky equated the time of the Israelite Exodus with
[Vo]:Time Dilation and relativity. Was Relativistic magnetic fields and time
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: ... time dilation isn't really just a simple number. Hi All, 6-8-09 Here are some thoughts on time dilation. Jack Smith --- Quoting from Relational Mechanics by Andre K. T. Assis, 1999 (This book can be purchased at Amazon.com.) p. 132 It is usually stated that this dilation of the proper time of a body in motion has been proven by experiments in which unstable mesons are accelerated and move at high velocities in particle accelerators. In these experiments it is observed that the half-lives ... of these accelerated mesons are greater than the half-lives of mesons at rest in the laboratory. But this is not the only interpretation of these experiments. It can be equally argued that these experiments only show that the half-lives of the unstable mesons depend on their accelerations ... An analogy ... Suppose two identical pendulum clocks at rest on the earth, marking the same time at sea level and running at the same pace, We then carry one of them to a high mountain, keep it there for several hours, and bring it back to sea level at the location of the other clock. Comparing the two clocks it is observed that the clock which was carried to the top of the mountain is delayed relative to the one which stayed all the time at sea level. This is the observational fact. It can be interpreted saying that time ran more slowly for the clock at the top of the mountain. Or it can be interpreted by saying that time ran equally to both clocks, but that the period of oscillation ... depends on the gravitational field of the earth ... As the gravitational field is weaker at the top of the mountain than at sea level, the clock which stayed on the mountain is delayed as compared with the one at sea level ... --- http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp What the Global Positioning System Tells Us about Relativity Tom Van Flandern, Univ. of Maryland Meta Research From the book 'Open Questions in Relativistic Physics' (pp. 81-90), edited by Franco Selleri, published by Apeiron, Montreal (1998) ... Another clue came for De Sitter in 1913, elaborated by Phipps [3], both of whom reminded us that double star components with high relative velocities nonetheless both have the same stellar aberration. This meant that the relative velocity between a light source and an observer was not relevant to stellar aberration. Rather, the relative velocity between local and distant gravity fields determined aberration. In the same year, Sagnac showed non-null results for a Michelson-Morley experiment done on a rotating platform. In the simplest interpretation, this demonstrated that speeds relative to the local gravity field do add to or subtract from the speed of light in the experiment, since the fringes do shift. The Michelson-Gale experiment in 1925 confirmed that the Sagnac result holds true when the rotating platform is the entire Earth's surface. GPS Evidence Against the Relativity Principle, by Thomas E. Phipps, Jr.; Infinite Energy, Issue 67; May 2006; p. 22 and following. ``The Global Positioning System (GPS) compensates the running rates of its atomic clocks for their orbital motion by speeding them up so as to cancel the relativistic time dilatation. Such compensated clocks, when in orbit, run in step with each other and with an earth-surface Master Clock ... The relativity principle ... demands ... the clocks of two ... observers [to be] each running slower than the other. To avoid an inifinite logical regression to nonsense, SRT [Special Relativity] therefore needs clock rates to be appearances. Whereas to earn extra credit for predicting the observed asymetrical aging of muons (circling and stationary in the laboratory) SRT needs clock rates to be real ... SRT's event calculus [is used] to show that clock phase jumps properly account for the asymetry ... Neither actual clocks ... nor biological processes behave discontinuously in nature. The stay-at-home twin cannot reset his biological clock to accommodate the phase jumps ... A clock of the GPS when in orbit is in free fall ... Two independent relativistic effects on such clocks are recognized and compensated for by the GPS. There is an effect of location in the gravity field and a separate motional effect of time dilatation by a factor gamma = 1/(1-V^2/c^2)^0.5 ... This means that, when a GPS clock is moved from the earth's surface into orbit, it runs slower due to time dilatation but faster due to location change (being less deep in the earth's gravity field) ... Attention will be confined here exclusively to the phenomenon of time dilatation produced by clock motion ... Confining attention to the GPS atomic clocks, we note that in such clocks a cloud of cesium atoms is irradiated so as to stimulate in some of the atoms a ... transition at frequency No cycles per second ... The GPS engineers reasoned that if this same cloud of atoms were
[Vo]:first day in carbon capture
Rick Monteverde wrote: Jed wrote: If you would like to argue that salt or CO2 in the wrong places in the wrong amounts are not pollutants, let's see some reasons. Wait a minute! - Anthropogenic contributions of CO2 to the atmosphere is warming earth's climate (and we're at the tipping point now, etc.) If you say it's not, show me some reasons. In your version of a science forum, you can just make up pure scientifical sounding nonsense like that, perhaps justified by political reasons, then tell us if we can't show evidence that it isn't true, we should basically just shut up and smell the socialism? Ok, I'll play: - Invisible elves from the Crab Nebula in Orion are controlling the Federal Reserve Bank from their base on the back side of the moon. And that explains everything that's happened to the US economy lately, as confirmed by numerous people who have studied these things carefully and can't possibly be wrong. There it is. Hmpf. - Rick Hi All, Joking aside, why is it that so many people refuse to face the fact that the main reason for our current economic problems is simple theft? The thieves managed to get the law (ant the rules) changed so that they could not be prosecuted. From enormous wealth transfer (theft) by the Arabs and others for oil to the Great Bear Raid of 2008 (see SEC elimination of the uptick rule in 2007), we are now in the position of a company that has just suffered a massive embezzlement. It's hard to run a business without cash or credit. Fortunately the federal government can just print money, which they are not doing fast enough. On a lighter note, on the subject of long-range communication for cellular level diffusion, there is a fascinating article in the May/June issue (Issue 85) of Infinite Energy, starting on page 25, titled Experimental observation and modeling of Cs-137 isotope deactivation and stable isotope transmutation in biological cells. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Zitter and ZPE
Hi All, 5-23-09 Time, like truth, is subjective; it is a feeling about something. In terms of natural selection, it is to our advantage to be able to predict what is going to happen; and time is a series of events, heart beats or sunrises, that lets us keep track of things. Jack Smith Jones Beene wrote: - Original Message From: Mauro Lacy Only velocity exists, physically. From then on, time is derived as t=v/s. That is, in physics time is no more than a mathematical construct. I meant: t=s/v Which comes first - the chicken or the egg? Why not say that only time and space exist, physically, and that velocity is derived therefrom ? After all, there are ways to measure time independently of velocity, but no way to measure velocity independently of time.
[Vo]:letter to Shirley Jackson
Hi Thomas, Good letter. Some Kozyrev results which are inconvenient elsewhere on the web are organized here: http://www.avonhistory.org/hist/kozyrev.htm http://www.avonhistory.org/hist/shipov.htm http://www.avonhistory.org/hist/tordetec.htm Jack Smith thomas malloy wrote: Vortexians; What you you think of this letter? Shirley Jackson, Ph D President Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Dear Dr. Jackson; I saw a broadcast of your address at the Bakken Museum on Twincities Public Television. You seem interested in innovation, so there are some matters that I'd like to bring to your attention. There is a basis in theoretical physics to believe that the zero point energy could be cohered to provide a pollution free source of energy. The quantum theorist Hal Puthoff of earthtech.org has coauthored a series of articles which were published in Physical Review. They speculate about the interaction of the ZPE and matter. It appears that the effect can be optimized by use of torsion field physics of Nicloi Kozyrev. Despite well documented replication of anomalous energy, in these experiments, the American Physical Society treats this technology like it doesn't exist. We have to self fund our experimental activities. Worse, there is also a well documented pattern of suppression of this technology. I will probably have to leave America in order to bring this technology to the market. I find this behavior inexplicable given the opposition which has been raised to our continued poisoning of the atmosphere with carbon dioxide. It's clear to me that we need a Manhattan Project sized effort in order to stop this poisoning of our environment. I have attempted to get a commitment from President Obama putting his administration on record as opposed to the continued suppression, in vain. It would seem to me that this is the least that they could do. Given your involvement with the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, I'd also like to mention the suppression of the use of induced nuclear reactions. The website, lenr-carn.org has over 3000 papers, some in the form of synopsis, others in the form of a .pdf document. I realize that the experimental results are difficult to reproduce, and that so far, no usable energy has been produced. However in the 60 minutes segment on cold fusion the APS's representative took the standard party line, about not seeming to care about the experimental results, his mind having previously been made up. It's clear to me that if, following the experiment; you extract a metal which wasn't there before, and that metal has an isotopic spectrum containing a large amount of 2%'ers, isotopes which occur in nature in concentrations of less than 3%, that is anomalous. This anomaly doesn't seem to be clear to either Dr. Robert Park, or Dr. Zimmerman. While Dr. Park was initially reported to be contrite, following the 60 Minutes broadcast. Later he was later back spouting the party line, of voodoo science. Why am I not surprised? this is the APS's business as usual. I noted what appeared to be your support for that boondoggle at Yucca Mountain. I can just imagine the streaks of protest that would result if you attempted to bury that waste in the layer of basalt in northern Minnesota. I don't blame the people of Nevada one little big for opposing it. Particularly since the technology to render it nonradioactive was demonstrated over ten years ago. Dr. Park has yet to repent of his attacks on Dr. Randall Mills of Black Light Power, which in my opinion were as the basis of the recension of BLP's patent. This despite BLP's having sold licenses for it's technology.
[Vo]:China vs US
Mauro Lacy wrote: As I said before, the concept of class struggle, and the use that is made of it, does not promote an harmonious way to resolve conflicts. History also supports this, and I think that it is one of the main reasons Marxism is discredited today. Hi All, The main reason that Marxism is discredited is laid out in Darkness at Noon. Certainly it was not Kondratieff's discovery that capitalism was not on a one-way path to destruction, for which Stalin sentenced him to Siberia. Russian thinking is no more objective than our own. While it is impossible to overestimate American stupidity and cupidity, it is also a mistake to ignore American genius. Some may argue that it could never be repeated; but the creation of our current American constitution by men schooled in government, especially the classics, and motivated by a desire for individual freedom, is a marvel of history. Our founding fathers well understood human evil, and created a system of horizontal and vertical checks and balances so that the thieves could blow the whistle on each other. Moreover, our founding fathers highly valued personal freedom, and were motivated by a burning opposition (Masonic) to King and Pope. These libertarian traditions are still alive and pose a formidable challenge to the arrogance of the Middle Kingdom. Jack Smith
[Vo]:H1N1 Synchronicity
leaking pen wrote: So, the so called swine flu may just be spanish flu? the puerco flu? On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: An interactive article on the current outbreak of H1N1 and the virus' impact in 1918: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2008/jan/03/flu And for the conspiricist minded: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sykes Hi All, Apparently the CIA has a long history with swine flu, having caused the destruction of 500,000 pigs in Cuba during the 1970's. I found it very interesting that President Obama stayed and ate with an archeologist, during his visit this month (4-09) to Mexico, who shortly thereafter died of pneumonia; his family later declared that he died of a heart attack. Was this another of the 635 Ways to Kill Castro? This swine flu thing has a good chance of kicking our economic recovery in the head; and not just Donald Rumsfeld's Tamiflu company benefits from it. What did the CIA do when the Taliban stopped opium production in Afghanistan? Points of reference are Michael Ruppert (Crossing the Rubicon) and Russ Baker (Family of Secrets). The kleptocrats are not going to give up without a hard fight. Jack Smith
[Vo]:2012
Hi All,4-23-09 Here is some entertainment for those who are interested in the 2012 speculations. More seriously, there is mounting evidence that a Tunguska type event ushered in the Younger Dryas cold spell in North America about 13,000 years ago, wiping out the Clovis culture. Jack Smith --- 1. Apocalypse 2012 Posted by: gulland68 mgulla...@aol.com gulland68 Date: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:29 pm ((PDT)) I became fascinated with the work of Graham Hancock when he came over to these parts to give a talk about ten years ago. He argues that the Sphinx and the Great Pyramid of Gizeh were both constructed by a pan-global, non-Egyptian and highly sophisticated, Megolithic civilisation existing around 10,500 BC. His manifold arguments are very compelling and down to earth, and he ultimately leads us to wisdom surrounding the Mayan calendar, which predicts cataclysmic global events occurring at cycles the period of which renders a great cataclysm due in the year 2012; indeed, December 22nd 2012 is the Mayan Doomsday; and it is then that all the planets are in alignment. This, according to the Mayans, occurs every 5215 years, causing a spark of light, received from the central galaxy, that signifies the transition between the old era and the new, there being solar flares and a generally brighter sun, the cosmic event reversing the polarity of the sun's magnetic field. The result would be our being, finally, propelled into the Golden Age that amounts to a glorious legacy of the Mayan culture. (We have had our warnings, supposedly: we would be given 13 years to get our act, as a civilisation, in order, beginning in 1999.) It is perhaps merely a cyclical development, then, that, as recently reported on the news, the sun is currently remarkably dim. Concomitantly, the magnetic fields of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune are changing. These planets are each becoming brighter and their atmospheric qualities are changing. The civilisation Hancock describes approximately coincides with the era of the supposed Atlantean civisaltion, reckoned to have been destroyed by a cataclysmic event. Indeed, its is around this time that the mass extinction of species that marked the end of the Pleistocene, and the end of all the known Upper Paleolithic cultures occurred; the evidence supports a pattern of worldwide volcanism, very rapid geological uplift in South America and an extraordinary disruption in the kingship list in the land now known as Egypt. This was at the time of a cultural orientation, suggested by the architecture and positioning of the Gizeh Pyramid, towards the constellation of Orion, which is associated with the deity of Osiris -- and Leo, the initial sign in the Dedera zodiac, thus heralding the inception of a new age. The writings of Zecharia Sitchin dates the Great Flood to this very era, this being in his viewpoint the transition to a new era (noteworthy is that Herodotus and at least one later author record the existence of marine shells deposited atop the Great Pyramid). Those who consider that Atlantis is mere fable might think twice if they launch Google Earth, switch on the ocean features facility, then type in the coordinates 31 15'15.53N 24 15'30.53W. This takes you to a region north-west of the Canaries and a little way south east of the Plato and Atlantis Seamounts. It requires just a little bit of image enhancement but you find there, etched into the ocean floor, a perfect rectangle dissected by a grid structure that is reminiscent of Milton Keynes. Indeed, researchers have been finding signs that might very well vindicate the concerns. The earth's magnetic field, which has been weakening for the past 500 years or so, has become particularly weak in the past twenty years. Recent, anomalous seismic activity seems to indicate churning motions of the earth's mantle which might point towards an imminent polar reversal in the earth's magnetic field. Any such event will be associated with seismic activity on a titanic scale. Another source of concern has been the discovery, by NASA, of a breach in the earth's magnetic field, ten times larger than any other such previously thought to exist. But most astonishing is the fact that the bout of immense solar activity that has reached us is the product of a north-pointing solar-magnetic field (the northern IMF).It had, previously, been believed that this orientation will always generate a 'shields up' respsonse resulting from interaction from the earth's magnetic field; yet the opposite has occurred. In 2012, the solar storm Solar Cycle 24, will reach its peak, with the earth's and the sun's magnetic fields being in sync. The US National Center for Astronomical Research models this to be one of the strongest in centuries, 30-50% stronger than the last (and starting as much as a year late). Cycles of solar activity correlate closely with cycles of hormonal changes (especially in the male, prompting agreesion), psychotic activity (reflected in
[Vo]:Crazy?
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: ``However, there is something which you *should* find disturbing: The one time Johnson actually ran for president (after Kennedy was assassinated and Johnson's partial term ran out) he ran on an anti-war platform. Think about that. And think about what Johnson actually did in the following 4 years. And think about Afghanistan. Personally I am rather fearful for the future course of events over there. It does not look good, not at all.'' Hi All, Stephen is right. The Russians are going to pay us back for driving them out by having Osama bin Laden shoot down their helicopters with Stinger missiles, eventually costing them the end of the Russian empire and the loss of the stans. And the stans have the easy oil, the kind we know how to drill for. If we don't get off foreign oil NOW, Afghanistan and the rest of Central Asia will become a stinking death pit for Americans, as our children and grandchildren are herded off to fight the Kazakh War of 2020. Jack Smith
[Vo]:I told you it was cold
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 3-13-09: ``Conspiracy theories all have one interesting feature in common: They cannot be disproved. Like creationism, they're intrinsically not falsifiable. This, alone, doesn't prove such theories wrong, of course. (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're *not* out to get you!)'' Hi All, Regardless of whether or not one believes in original sin, it must be admitted that something is seriously wrong with homo sapiens. That such a creature should have atomic weapons is a cosmic joke, with the punch line to be delivered when the Big Chimps finally lead us to oblivion. Given man's fallen nature, conspiracy is probably the norm of human behavior, hence the constant plaintive calling for transparency. There actually could be a Science of Conspiracy because of the well-documented conspiracies available for study. In fact, Conspiracy Science 101 should probably consist of case studies. Naturally, with any conspiracy, many of the important details will never be known, since secrecy and disinformation are the essence of conspiracy. (See Russ Baker's Family of Secrets.) Of current interest are market conspiracies: the bull market pump and dump, playing on greed; and the bear market bear raid, playing on fear. The kleptocrats of 2001 - 2008 have engaged in both types of conspiracies, with the first part of this period dominated by shearing the sheep with irrational exuberance. and the last part culminating in the Great Bear Raid of 2008. (The fall of the Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) from 14,164 on October 9, 2007, to 6,547 on 3-9-09 was not some inexplicable act of G_d.) Perhaps the best known bear raid is Black Tuesday, October 29, 1929. See http://articles.wallstraits.net/articles/1287 -- A bankers pool had previously been organized to support stock prices. ``Thomas Lamont ... was forced to deny rumors that the bankers had actually been selling stocks (conducting a bear raid) rather than buying ... (It would later be revealed that Albert Wiggins, the chairman of Chase National Bank and a member of the pool, was personally short several million dollars' worth of stock at the time the bankers sought to organize support for stock prices.) ...'' After the bear raid of 1937, Joseph Kennedy, in 1938, first chairman of the Securities Exchange Commission, formed under the administration of F. D. Roosevelt, had the SEC adopt the uptick rule, more formally known as rule 10a-1, which (loosely) said that you could only short a stock following an uptick in its price. The SEC eliminated the uptick rule on July 6, 2007; and there was nothing to stop the bears piling on as they made fortunes driving down the market. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Re: The Rapture
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote on 2-25-09: ``Thomas, You have stated most succinctly that in order to be accepted in what seems (at least to me) to comprise a very exclusive membership for acceptance to The Rapture ... Thomas wrote: A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring about the expiation of sin from the world. I'd love to do something about this, but it's not my place. More to the point, this expiation will require blood shed ... Steven wrote: You state: ... this expiation will require blood shed ... Those are heavy words, Thomas. Such a statement causes me to wonder how you are able to personally reconcile what is considered to be one of G-d's most important commandments, which you clearly state is, love your fellow man as your self? ...'' Hi All, Most of the many groups which formed during the early nineteenth century are merely amusing, lacking a core of malevolence -- Mormons, Millerites, Shakers, the Oneida group, etc. -- but the Darbyites are different. In my opinion, they are the backbone of the modern pro-death movement in Britain and the U. S. How many gallons of blood will it take to fill the Valley of Jezreel to the height of a horse's shoulders? How many billions of people will G_d have to slice up with a sword to spill this much blood? I was thinking of the Darbyites when I wrote some time ago that I see no difference between the Fundamentalists and the Satanists. Jack Smith P. S. If A Holy G-d is obligated, because he is holy, to bring about the expiation of sin from the world ... how is that statement compatible with the belief that salvation is possible by faith alone?
Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?
thomas malloy wrote: People who have Who is John Galt? bumper stickers are devotees of the novelist Ayn Rand ... What's bringing about the sort of economic collapse spoken of in Atlas Shrugged is the government ... Hi All, Our economic problems are primarily the result of theft encouraged by the federal govenment during the past 8 years. The Oil Gang almost had me convinced that it is possible to fool all of the people all of the time. Speaking of eye-openers, Russ Baker's agument in Family of Secrets that Nixon was toppled by a Bonesmen conspiracy led by Bush 41 is fascinating. A similar argument was made several years ago in Silent Coup from a very different point of view by Len Colodny and Robert Gettlin. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Algae updates from Oilgae site
Hi Richard, Thanks for the links. Jack Smith R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Vorts, http://www.oilgae.com/ref/report/digest/digest.html For more news items and updates, visit our blog @ http://www.oilgae.com/blog and our forum @ http://www.oilgae.com/forum Richard
[Vo]:Economic long cycles
Jones wrote: Jack Smith has mentioned Kondratieff Waves/ and economic long cycles before. These are generally 55+ years in duration. Kuznets, another esteemed economist of an earlier age, had the economic cycles shorter. Hopefully neither cycle is even close to a natural law but more like an amusing anecdote. Hi All, The problem I have with interpreting the Kondratieff wave as the result of economic activity, as Schumpeter did with his 'innovation theory', is that the K-wave is best delinieated by wars. Here is the list of trough wars with accompanying slogans: 1794, Ohio, The Battle of Fallen Timbers 1846, Oregon, Fifty-Four Forty or Fight Mexico, Remember the Alamo 1898, Havana Harbor, Remember The Maine 1950, Korea, Better Dead than Red 2001, New York City, Twin Towers, Bring our enemies to justice, or bring justice to our enemies A trough war marks the end of one approximately 55-year cycle and the beginning of the next upswing. Of course there are lttle cyles within larger cycles (maybe the whole thing is fractal). The most recent longer wave is the one that terminated in 1914 - 1945, analogous to the 30-years war: 1618 - 1648. So the massive swindles (trillions for asset-backed securities, the Iraq War, foreign oil, credit cards, etc.) which have brought us to our knees, probably represent a recurring theme which is superimposed on the K-wave. My hunch is that the K-wave will bring the ship of state (a kayak?) popping to the surface; but we will all have to lend a hand. Jack Smith --- Source: Bill Arnold Sent: 10 February 2009 To: cycl...@yahoogroups.com ``The following is at cyclesi webpage, written by Ray Tomes, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyclesi/ [Also] http://www.cyclesresearchinstitute.org/ Now, note, that the KIND OF CYCLES Ray Tomes and I are into discussing are all listed there. Dewey was the president of the original Foundation for the Study of Cycles. Wheeler is a cycles scientist, like Dewey, who is well known in cycles research on the historic cycles charts over long periods of time. Dewey's books contain extensives charts seeking correlations just as Wheeler. Kondratieff, Gann and Elliott wave/cycle charts are historic for cycle scientist.''
[Vo]:Frank's article
Hi Frank, I think this should be shared with all of Vortex. Thnks, Jack Smith --- OVERVIEW OF THE CONTROL OF THE NATURAL FORCES by Frank Znidarsic In the 19th Century Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison developed electrical tec hnology. This technology was based on the control of the electromagnetic fo rce. The electromagnetic force has a convent range and strength.C2 A0 It is possible to place strong magnets within electrical machinery. The rotation of these magnets induces an electric field. This type o f machine is known as a generator. Conversely, the flow of electricit y induces a strong magnetic field. Samuel Morris used this strong mag netic force in his telegraph receiver. The symmetrical relationship that exists between the electric and magnetic fields was mathematically qualified my James Clerk Maxwell. The understanding of this symmetry allo wed Guglielmo Marconi to develop radio. Albert Einstein developed his General Theory of Gravity early in the 20th C entury. The General Theory of Relativity describes a gravitomagnetic field. The gravitomagnetic field has a structure similar to the electromagnetic field, however, it acts like a repulsive gravitational field. Literature of this period portrays people being propelled by antigravity backpacks. It was believed that the force of gravity would soon come under man's control. Einstein attempted to resolve these is sues and formulate a general theory for all of the natural forces. He worked, without solution, on this problem for the rest of this life. The gravitational force has proven to be too weak to20exploit with classic al technology. To obtain a gravitational field of sufficient st rength the entire mass of the earth would have to be concentrated within a bar magnet. This clearly is impossible. Later in the 20th Century Ernest Rutherford discovered the strong nuclear force. The strong nuclear force has a range of about one Fermi. The weak nu clear force is a range of 1/580 that of the strong nuclear force. The range of the nuclear forces are too short to exploit with classical technology. Science moved on in its quest into higher energies. Sheldon Glashow discovered, in 1979, that the electromagnetic and weak nuc lear force unify at high energy. It is believed that all of the forces unify at an extremely high energy. This energy was approached during the birth of the universe. This level of energy will be forever bey ond the reach of man's technology. As these ideas became engr ained into our culture, the control of the gravitational and nuclear forces was dropped from the writings of science fiction. Early in the 20th Century Niels Bohr discovered that the electrons orbit th e atoms in discrete orbits. Each orbit contains a definite about of a ngular momentum. The quantization of angular momentum is a postulate, underivable from deeper law. Its validity depended on the agreement with experimental spectra. The frequency of a quantum emission depend s on the energy through which the electron drops. It is not coupled to the orbital frequency of the emitting electron. The frequ ency of a sound wave, for example, matches that of the loud speaker. Why do not quantum events obey the same rules? A quantum myster y was born. Werner Heisenberg extended these ideas and mathematically qualified the intensity of a spectral emission. Werner Heisenberg an d Erwin Schrodinger were limited in that there were, at that time, no exper iments that revealed the path of the quantum transition. They had no way to compute the probability of transition. Their formulations were complex and provided no clear visual picture. They did, however, find that the number of emitted photons varies with the differential in energy though which the electron transits. The frequency of the emitted photons is not that of the orbiting electrons and the intensity of the spectral lines is not coupled to the amplitude of the any quantum state. The correspondence principle was developed to explain this mystery. It states that the frequency and amplitude of the emitter and emitted need only match in classical systems. Max Born attempted to explain these inconsistencies by stating that the common sense classical world was a subset of the quantum regime. Born's quantum regime exists in a strange realm of probability. That's the way things have stood for over 100 years. In 1989, Stanley Pons and Martin Fleishman discovered the process of cold fusion. They found that the reaction had a positive thermal coefficient. If was later discovered by Professor Yoshiaki Arata, and others, that the reaction took place in a domain of 50 nanometers. The product of the thermal frequency and the domain size equals a velocity of one million meters per second. Eugene Podkletnov stimulated a one third of meter spinning superconductor with a three megahertz radio wave. This experiment was said to have produced a strong gravitational anomaly. The product of the one third of meter
Re: [VO]:Chicken Little The Sky is Falling
Hi Richard, We may be entering the long severe phase of the drought cycle (over 100 years?) that in the past wiped out the Anasasi. Jack Smith R C Macaulay wrote: We are entering the second year phase of a drouth in the Texas- Midwest region and a certain Californio area that is beginning to get scary. Lack of rainfall this year can have a double whammy impact on food grains at a time when the nation's grain stores are already below makeup rates from the world give-away food programs. Water may become more valuable than rotgut whiskey. The last big drouth here lasted 7 years beginning in year 1950. Water is often overlooked in the grand scheme of things but a shortage does have a way of getting attention.. especially if we dont get enough rain to make a grain harvest this fall.. Richard
[Vo]:Pickens wrong about trucks
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: IMO the problem isn't that people have a death wish, but rather that they have so little imagination that they don't understand/believe what's going to happen, until it does, and even if they do believe it, they think it will happen to someone else, not to them. Some are so stupid, they don't even understand it when it's happening to them. A few individuals do have vision (many on this list), but they have the devil's own job trying to convince the rest. This is the downside of Democracy - rule by the sheeple. Hi All, You will enjoy the below enclosure. Jack Smith -- http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business/july-dec08/psolman_10-21.html ``As the financial sector shifts, so does the reach of the jolt to economic structures around the world. Economist Nassim Nicholas Taleb and his mentor, mathematician Benoit Mandelbrot, speak with Paul Solman about chain reactions and predicting the financial crisis ... PAUL SOLMAN, NewsHour Economics Correspondent: We sat down with one of the world's hottest investment advisers these days, Nassim Nicholas Taleb, author of The Black Swan, ... and the man he calls his mentor, mathematician Benoit Mandelbrot, pioneer of fractal geometry and chaos theory ... NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: I don't know if we're entering the most difficult period since -- not since the Great Depression, since the American Revolution ... PAUL SOLMAN: Professor Mandelbrot, can that possibly be true? BENOIT MANDELBROT, Mathematician: It's very serious. PAUL SOLMAN: More serious than the Great Depression, possibly? BENOIT MANDELBROT: Possibly. I hope not. PAUL SOLMAN: Mandelbrot's key insight came in the '60s with a study of cotton price surges and plunges, suggesting the world moves in fits and starts, especially the human world. Decades later, after the stock market crash of 1987, Taleb came to the same conclusion. He appeared on the NewsHour two years ago to help explain the death of a hedge fund before the current crisis. He dubbed the event a black swan, impossible, Europeans had always thought, because they'd never seen one. NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: We saw a lot of white swans. Every white swan was confirming that, you know, hey, all swans were white. PAUL SOLMAN: Taleb's book, published in April 2007, was called The Black Swan because, in 1697, Dutch explorers discovered Australia and black swans. NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: And, sure enough, they saw that black version and said, Hey, one single observation, OK, can destroy thousands of years of confirmation. So, likewise in the markets, all you need is one single bad month to destroy years of track record. PAUL SOLMAN: In the book, Taleb wrote, The increased concentration among banks seems to have the effect of making financial crises less likely. But when they happen, they are more global in scale and hit us very hard. True, we now have fewer failures, but, when they occur, I shiver at the thought. NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: The banking system, the way we have it, is a monstrous giant built on feet of clay. And if that topples, we're gone. Never in the history of the world have we faced so much complexity combined with so much incompetence and [mis]understanding of its properties. PAUL SOLMAN: But there's been complexity before. There has been overextension of credit before. We've had crashes in American history many times before. We're a resilient system. Won't we pull out of it? NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Let me tell you why it's not like before. Look at what's happening. The world is getting so fragile that a small shortage of oil -- small -- can lead to the price going from $25 to $150 ... NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: ... We live in a world that is way too complicated for our traditional economic structure. It's not as resilient as it used to be. We don't have slack. It's over-optimized. PAUL SOLMAN: What do you mean by over-optimized? NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: ... It's vastly more optimal to have one large bank than 10 small banks. It's more efficient. PAUL SOLMAN: Well, we've certainly seen the consolidation of the industry. NASSIM NICHOLAS TALEB: Exactly. And that consolidation is what's putting us at risk, because we are -- when one bank, large bank makes a mistake, OK, it's 10 times worse than a small bank making a mistake. PAUL SOLMAN: ... The butterfly somewhere disturbs a little bit of air and, halfway across the world, a tornado hits or something, right? Is that what we're talking about here? BENOIT MANDELBROT: Certainly very similar. The word turbulence is one which actually is common to physics and to social scientists, to economics. Everything which involves turbulence is enormously more complicated, not just a little bit more complicated, not just one year more schooling, just enormously more complicated. PAUL SOLMAN: Turbulence is why, because it's badly understood, weather forecasters can't necessarily get it right. BENOIT MANDELBROT: Precisely. In fact, the basic --
[Vo]:New Era of Openness
Hi All, The momentum of the entrenched special interests is really scary -- Kazakh War of 2020 here we come. No matter how we wiggle and wriggle, are we condemned to an appointment in Samarra? Jack Smith OrionWorks wrote: Last summer the Japanese government said they will not because if it works, it will hurt oil company profits. They really said that??? Unbelievable! Actually, seriously, the Min. of Sci. Education (or whatever they call it in English) said something to the effect of: we cannot support this research because if it succeeds it would disrupt the energy sector of the national economy. That's how I recall the quote (which was in Japanese). It was related to me by someone who attended the meeting. It was not in the news. - Jed
[Vo]:A Modest Proposal
http://kelsocartography.com/blog/?tag=harpers
Republished from Harper's, January 2009 issue. By Linda
J. Bilmes and Joseph E. Stiglitz:
``Using conservative assumptions, we calculate that the
bill for {George W.} Bush-era excess, the total new debt
combined with the total new accrued obligations, amounts
to $10.35 trillion...''
Hi All,
In an effort to paralyze the U. S. federal government,
just three presidents, Reagan and the Bushes, have incurred
most of our cureent $11 trillion national debt -- this
was not accident or stupidity; it was deliberate policy.
Paying interest on this debt as it continues to grow
should be repugnant to all of us -- what a waste of our
tax dollars. So, here is a proposal in the tradition of
President Abraham Lincoln:
Immediately pay off the entire U. S. debt with electronic
(and printed when necessary) U. S. Treasury bills,
electronic greenbacks. These treasury notes will pay no
interest; and will be stored in the U. S. Treasury until
the debt-holders give the U. S. Treasury their account
numbers for direct deposit. All interest payments on
notes issued by the Federal Reserve will be banned by law
and immediately cease.
The new greenbacks will be legal tender in the U. S. and
must be accepted abroad by U. S. agencies, contractors,
and banks chartered in the U. S. no matter where they
are operating.
Are we a paper tiger? Let's find out.
Jack Smith
[Vo]:Predictions for year 2009
Horace Heffner wrote: At least hopefully economics, though known as the dismal science, is at least closer to on topic here than religion. Hi All, Economics is entwined with energy; and, for that reason, is definitely on topic. $40 per barrel oil will be used to club alternative energy; and I hope that President Obama can resist this. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Predictions for 2009
Terry Blanton wrote: Your post prompted me to look to see who has the most gold: http://www.globalfirepower.com/list_gold_reserves.asp Mauro Lacy wrote on 1-4-09: Interesting. I didn't know that. I'm not sure to what extent the correlation between a country's gold reserves and the strength of their currency is a valid one. Hi All, A major component of the strength of a currency is the ability of the coiner to commit effective violence, e. g. the Pax Romana. The devil's deal whereby US miltary power guanatees Arab safety in return for Arab refusal to accept anything but dollars for oil has been very successful. In fact, I really became worried about a US attack on the Iranian oil fields when, on 2-17-08, the Iranians opened their own Oil Bourse. So the Bin Laden trades in 3-08 were very scary for me. There will be no stop to the US military buildup under Obama; and thus there will be no diminution in the perks of being the world's biggest bully. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Dark Energy was :The Memristor
Jones wrote on 1-2-09: Many of us may not like whatever new definition of 'graviton' or 'photon' emerges from this ... Anyway, the original Beck/Mackey cite is here: http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0703364 Here is Wiki's entry on Ginzburg Landau which has a similarity to Higgs - and as you mention, Higgs might be the ultimate referee or indicator of truth - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginzburg%E2%80%93Landau_theory Horace Heffner wrote on 1-2-08: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ I don't think the photon and graviton are analogous ... Hi All, The self-imposed constraints on this discussion are amusing, to say the least: A priori, why should there be any similarity between gravitons and photons? Even the speed limit of the photon, as proposed by Einstein, is controversial. Lorentz was able to explain, with exact matehematics, the results of Michelson-Morely in the context of a luminiferous ether by inventing length contraction, which seems a very tame invention when compared with the more recent virtualities and darks. Horace has convincingly destroyed the position of those who maintain that the centrifugal force is a virtual force. Those who have ridden in the rotor at Cedar Point, Ohio, know from personal experience that the centrifugal force is very real. Why assume that the speed of the graviton is the same as the speed of the photon? It is far simpler to say that the Earth feels the force of the Sun about 8 minutes before light emitted at the same time reaches the Earth because gravitons move much faster than photons. There is no need to invoke epicycular retarded potentials. I've read that NASA still uses Newton's equations and action at a distance to calculate the trajectiories of the rockets to Mars. Jack Smith Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 1-2-09: State lotteries also are funded in part by compulsive gamblers, and in fact generally tax the least well to do the most heavily. This is highly unfair; the lotteries are among the most regressive of taxes. Unfortunately, they are politically far more popular than the more fair graduated income tax, and in fact the people lotteries hurt worst are exactly the ones who want states to continue to offer them. Jack writes: Quoting Pascal, Lotteries are a tax on fools.
[Vo]:Dark Energy was :The Memristor
Jack Smith wrote on 1-3-09: Even the speed limit of the photon ... is controversial. Hi All, I retract that. The speed of the photon is not controversial. See http://njsas.org/projects/speed_of_light/em_const/ ``Ratio of Electrostatic to Electromagnetic Units In 1857 Wilhelm Weber and Rudolf Kohlrausch were the first to show that the ratio of electrostatic to electromagnetic units produced a speed matching the then known value for the speed of light. It was already known, from dimensional arguments, that the ratio was a speed. Weber and Kohlrausch built what were for the time ingenious devices and their measurements found a speed close to the then known speed of light. The race to deduce light propagation from the laws of electricity and magnetism was on, to culminate in Maxwell's Electricity and Magnetism treatise in 1873. '' I meant to say that the speed of the photon does not set a limit on the speed of other things, for example, the graviton. Jack Smith
Re: [Vo]:Bad predictions for 2008
Hi All, I predict that 2009 will be better than expected: With about $1 trillion in job creation dollars and little loss in car jobs, the Kondratieff upswing we are in should carry us along. The US is in the position of a company that has just suffered a massive embezzlement: Billions to the Arabs, the enormous fees to the money managers for their legalized swindles, the billions squandered on the Iraq War, billions to the Chinese for the conspicuous consumption of junk (the classic being putting melamine in bayby food to raise the nitrogen content to indicate a high protein content), and the enormous interest and fees due to credit cards. But the Company (the US) is really in good shape (Yeah, I know -- try to get a loan to buy a car -- this is just the bankers smacking us coming and going). The problem I see on the horizon is the ferocious war that will be waged on alternative energy, starting with the low price of oil. Jack Smith R C Macaulay wrote: Howdy Horace, In the interest of science and creativity, Let's have everyone's prediction for year 2009. Keep it to a single prediction please. Please also keep your predictions factually, easily proven by facts. Richard's prediction for 2009.. all history books will be revised to state that while Santa Ana lost the battle.. he actually the war for Texas as being demonstrated conclusively by year 2008.
[Vo]:the Bell
Hi All, 12-21-08
Right now I'm reading The Rise of the Fourth Reich
by Jim Marrs; and I've run across something that may be
of interest starting on page 76: The Wenzeslaus Mine [was]
located about 215 miles west of Warsaw in Lower Silesia ...
[It was] used in connection with the strange experiments
described to his captors by SS officer Sporrenberg.
These experiments centered around ... the Bell ...
During operation ... two contra-rotating cylinders filled
with a mercury-like ... substance spun a vortex of energy
which emitted a strange phosphorescent blue light and made
such a buzzing sound that operators nicknamed it the ...
beehive ...
To try to understand the purpose of the Bell requires a
brief side trip into the world of ... Zero Point Energy.
Jack Smith
(As a side note,
see http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html
``Clarence Dillon of Dillon Read, set up the German
Steel Trust with Thyssen partner, Fredrick Flick ...
[George Herbert] Walker, {Prescott] Bush and [Averell]
Harriman owned a third of Flick's holding company [Silesian
Holding Co.] and called their share Consolidated Silesian
Steel Corporation ...
Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation was located near
the Polish town of Oswiecim. When the plan to use Soviet
prisoners as forced labor fell through, the Nazis began
shipping Jews, communists, gypsies and other minority
populations to the camp the Nazis had set up. This was
the beginning of Auschwitz.'')
[Vo]:Scam
Hi All, This is off-topic for vortex, but I think everyone should be aware of this scam. Jack Smith ``Credit Card Scam http://snopes.com/ Snopes.com says this is true. See this site - http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/creditcard.asp This one is pretty slick since they provide YOU with all the information, except the one piece they want Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA Master Card Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself. One of our employees was called on Wednesday from 'VISA', and I was called on Thursday from 'Master Card'. The scam works like this: Caller: 'This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for $497.99 from a Marketing company based in Arizona?' When you say 'No', the caller continues with, 'Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from $297 to $497, just under the $500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?' You say 'yes'. The caller continues - 'I will be starting a Fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 1- 800 number listed on the back of your card (1-800 -VISA) and ask for Security.' You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. 'Do you need me to read it again?' Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works: The caller then says, 'I need to verify you are in possession of your card'. He'll ask you to 'turn your card over and look for some numbers'. There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are p art of your card number, the next 3 are the security Numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, 'That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?' After you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, 'Don't hesitate to call back if you do,' and hangs up. You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of $497.99 was charged to our card. Long story - short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card Don't give it to them Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost too late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report. What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a 'Jason Richardson of Master Card' with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening. Please pass this on to all your family and friends. By informing each other, we protect each other.''
[Vo]:Picked up from SCQM list
Hi All,12-15-08 Will the ultimate heat death of the universe be when all the hydrogen has been converted to hydrinos and everything else fused or fizzed to iron? Jack Smith On Dec 12, 2008, Robin (mix...@bigpond.com) wrote: The following patent application was posted to that list: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0263758.html Quote from the patent:- The process of the present invention is believed to be based on three hydrogen nuclei (1H and/or 2H) in a compound approaching within nuclear tunneling distance. Bringing together hydrogen nuclei to within tunneling distance (order of 0.5-2 Å) is accomplished by the collapse of a molecule. For example, the catalyst antimony with deuterium forms stibine, SbH3, or stibine-3d, SbD3, which goes to a highly condensed state by the agency of the interaction of a hydride/deuteride anion, H-/D-. As a result of this interaction, the D-or H-replaces an electron, e-. As with the muonic molecule, there is a collapse to species such as SbD3(D), SbD3(H), or SbH3(H) where the three or four N/Ds are within tunneling distance some fraction of the time in the shrunken molecule. With three deuteriums, 6Li is the predominant product. Astute Vorts may recognize my suggestion from years ago, that Hy- might act as a replacement for the muon, allowing other nuclei to fuse. :) BTW this patent sounds like it may contain a good description of the CF process. Horace Heffner wrote: For sure. This doesn't necessarily involve hydrinos either. Robin (mix...@bigpond.com) wrote: particularly considering the requirement that two different catalysts be present, one from e.g. group III and one from group I. This would neatly explain why FP Palladium experiments using LiOD with traces of Boron in the Pd appeared to be effective. Effectively they describe Ed's NAE. IMO, the Group I metal acts as the Mills catalyst (either alone as in the case of K or combined with D as in NaD). Horace Heffner wrote: It seems to me this is just plain vanilla LENR. A heavy atom lattice is required to establish a high tunneling rate, and the lightweight lattice bound atoms are there to provide close and energetic targets for LENR. The light atoms are required for significant energy generation due to the curve of binding energy peaking with Fe and diminishing above Fe56. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_energy Adding H or D to heavy element nuclei results in an energy deficit. Energy from adding neutrons or di-neutrons to heavies (i.e. heavy lattice atoms like Pd) is comparatively small unless fissions can be triggered. Obtaining the equivalent of adding neutrons via H or D LENR requires weak reactions with comparatively low cross sections. It appears they overlooked the importance of thermal gradients to their process (it causes a high tunneling rate) or thermal cycling (permitting high loading rate followed by high orbital stressing). Nice that they don't have to worry about energy lost heating their product, i.e. COP, because their gadgets are simply inserted into a generating plant boiler fire to increase enthalpy and thus reduce fuel costs. The main cost is in rebuilding the gadgets when they stop producing heat. I don't see anything in this patent inconsistent with the Deflation Fusion model: - Message - To: hydr...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 Subject: HSG: Hydrino persistance? What is thought to happen to hydrinos released to the environment? Do they eventually absorb thermal energy and become normal hydrogen, or would it be possible to convert a significant proportion of the world's hydrogen to hydrinos? Mike Carrell wrote: Hydrinos released to the atmosphere are expecte to rise to the stratosphere as they, like hydrogen, are lighter than air. At stratopshric altitudes, they will be exposed to energetic solar radiation that may revert hydrinos to the hydrogen state. Thermal energy will not do it. it takes high energy radiation. Mills has porposed that the so-called dark matter postulated by cosmologists may be hydrinos created by stars, including the sun.
[Vo]:Derivation of non-relativivistic Hydrino theory
Jones Beene wrote on Sat, 13 Dec 2008: So-called 'anomalous hydrogen' has been seen (claimed) in a number of [cold fusion] experiments - but who is to say this does not indicate the ubiquitous solar generated Hydrino [see Blacklight Power] -- but of the (1/n)^2 variety -- which is eventually diffusing to earth's core due to its effectiv density? Robin van Spaandonk wrote: You might be right. Hi All, You may be interested in the enclosed below. Jack Smith - http://www.searchanddiscovery.net/documents/abstracts/2005research_calgary/abstracts/extended/hunt/hunt.htm Hydrides and Anhydrides by C. Warren Hunt, 1119 Sydenham Road SW, CALGARY, ALBERTA, CANADA T2T 0T5, Tel. (403)-244-3341, Fax (403) 244-2834, E-mail: arche...@telusplanet.net ``Hydrogen being 90% or more of all matter in the Universe, must have been abundantly present in the formation of the early earth. The consensus among scientists has been that most primordial hydrogen was expelled as the earth accreted. New evidence challenges the consensus raises questions as to the validity of other long-held geological concepts. The new evidence involves the behavior of hydrogen nucleii, which at pressures characteristic of mantle depths have shed their electrons and inject themselves inside the first electron rings of metal atoms. Thus sequestered within the earth, hydrogen may comprise as much as 30-40 percent of total earth mass today. Hydrogen penetration into metals was demonstrated by Vladimir N. Larin, a geologist, whose project over the last 34 years has been research in the USSR and FSU on sources of natural hydrogen. Three major effects result from the phenomenon: (1) transmutation, (2) densification, and (3) fluidization ... From this data it is easily shown that the excess core and mantle density above that of the crust can be attributed to injected hydrogen, and the density differences between inner core, outer core, and lower mantle can be treated as phase effects. In this scenario the idea of an iron core is superfluous. V.N. Larin demonstrated the fluidity of titanium hydride for this writer by setting a ruby in plasticized titanium intermetal. Under reduced pressure the hydrogen bled off, allowing the metal to recrystallize and leave the ruby set firmly in metallic titanium. The potassium and titanium behaviors are not unique. All elements but noble gases form hydrides ... The hydrides of silicon, the silanes (SiH4, Si2H6, Si3H8, Si4H10, etc.) are of special interest. Gases at standard conditions, they react vigorously with water, producing quartz, volcanic ash, and rock-forming minerals, depending on depth, pressure and the admixture of other metal hydrides. The high mobility of silane explains the mode of transfer of silicon from the interior to the oxidic crust. Crust then is the residue after silane and intermetal oxidation and release of hydrogen, which eventually escapes into space. Carbon ... probably is prominent in the form of carbides in the interior. Its primary hydride form, methane (CH4), although energy-laden like silane, behaves quite differently in three important contrasting ways. First, it does not react with water; second, its combustion products are only gases; and third, it enables the biosphere. Where silane is stalled in the crust by reacting with water, methane and hydrogen released by its partial oxidation proceed upward in fracture pathways. Methane and hydrogen seep into deep, shield mines and through porous members of sedimentary series. Both are major constituents of fluid inclusions in sub-oceanic basalts as well as in shield granites. Their migration is differentially impeded due to their different molecular sizes. Methane may be trapped temporarily, while hydrogen escapes. Both enter the atmosphere worldwide on a large scale. Thus the hydridic earth image comprises a mobile inner geosphere of highly-reduced, dense, intermetals and carbides, an outer geosphere of oxidic rock that has accumulated incrementally through geological time, and a transient liquid-gas envelope. The image implies a core that is neither iron nor very hot, because the heat source for endogeny is primarily not primordial heat but the chemical energy released in the upper mantle and lower crust, near the crust-mantle boundary by hydride oxidation. Hydrocarbons other than methane are partially oxidized carbon forms, and thus unlikely to occur in any form but methane in the earth's interior where extreme reducing conditions prevail. When methane rises to outer crust levels from the interior, its chemical energy is available to metabolize bacteria and archaea that live there in total darkness at elevated temperatures. They get that energy by stripping hydrogen from the methane and oxidizing it metabolically. When bacteria and archaea strip hydrogen from methane, they create 'anhydrides' of methane, CH3, CH2, etc. Two CH3s combine to make C2H6, ethane; two CH3s and one CH2 make C3H8, propane,
[Vo]:Re: The White House and your house
Hi David,12-10-08 Please pass this on: Chu would be a bad choice for Energy Secretary because of his doctrinaire rejection of cold fusion. Cold fusion could be the most significant thing of all for energy change. Jack Smith PS I have chronic Lyme disease and require continuing antibiotics to keep the disease suppressed, despite the claims of the medical establishment. I hope that heresy is not rejected blindly by the Obama Administration. --- David Plouffe, BarackObama.com wrote: Taylor -- I just recorded a special video message -- from a place you might recognize= -- about this weekend's Change is Coming house meetings, and why you shoul= d join tens of thousands of your fellow supporters. Watch the video and find a Change is Coming house meeting near you. Or hos= t one yourself and invite your friends, family, and neighbors: http://my.barackobama.com/changeiscoming At the house meetings, you'll reflect on our campaign, discuss the future o= f this movement, and identify some ways to get involved in your community. Meeting hosts will report back, and your feedback will be instrumental in g= uiding this movement through some important and unprecedented territory. This grassroots organization has always been about more than an election. = It's about transforming our country -- and we've only just begun.=20 With the enormous challenges we're facing at home and abroad, we have no ch= oice but to continue working together. There's so much more we can do to he= lp Barack bring change to America. How we do that is up to you. Watch the video and sign up to host or attend a house meeting this weekend:= http://my.barackobama.com/changeiscoming I hope you'll continue to make history with us. Thanks and happy holidays, David David Plouffe Campaign Manager Obama for America Please donate: https://donate.barackobama.com/calendar
[Vo]:Backstory of Phenanthrene excess heat
Jed Rothwell wrote: Mizuno is only vaguely aware of Mills and has not read any of his work as far as I know. Jones Beene wrote: ... This quote from the paper bears repeating: ... Solids found in the cell after the reaction were analyzed. Before the experiment, the carbon in the cell was 99% 12C, but after heat was produced in the example shown in Fig. 20, more than 50% of the carbon in the phenanthrene sample was 13C+. WOW WOW WOW this is absolutely phenomenal. After a 10 day run more than 50% of the carbon in the phenanthrene sample was apparently transmuted to 13C, or was it? ... We need full clarification before a skeptic who does know about the hydrino can say that what Mizuno was really measuring in the ICP mass spectroscopy ... was merely some new type of ionized molecule ... Robin van Spaandonk wrote: This is essentially what I was referring to in my previous post where I wrote:- There another possibility that keeps nagging at me. Mills claims the production of e.g. KHyI. It occurs to me that perhaps there is something like CHy, with a strong bond between the Hy and the C, which would have a mass of 13, and would pass for C13. That would also explain the dearth of fusion energy. This is what I have been saying on Vortex for years. It is precisely why a measurement from a MS is not sufficient for work in this field. It needs to be backed up by alternative methods which directly access the nucleus, such as NAA. NAA would clearly distinguish between a Hydrino bound to C12, and real C13, because adding a neutron to a C12 nucleus simply yields stable C13, whereas adding one to C13 yields C14 which is radioactive. Note also that the bond between the C12 and the Hy could be much stronger than an ordinary chemical bond, and hence have a good chance of surviving the ion creation process in a MS. BTW, since Mizuno probably still has the C13 (or can readily make more), this option is still open. Jones wrote: Well - the problem is that the (hypothetical) molecular ion 12C(Hy)+ would not have the identical mass of atomic 13C+, but in fact would be slightly less. The instrument used - so I am told - should be of a precision to be able to differentiate the two if it were calibrated to do so, and if the operator was so instructed to look for it. Apparently two different instruments were used, and the results with the most precision was done by an outside contractor and specialist who perhaps should have noticed a variance. This is not clear however ... BTW - the smoking gun for this convoluted chain of cause and effect, mentioned earlier - is the 3.4 eV mass-energy transfer of pairs from the disrupted quantum foam of virtual positronium (aka the Dirac epo field) via FRET to induce a similar kind of shrinkage that Mills has found, which serve the purpose of reducing the Bohr orbital - but in the totally NON-Millsean way of ZPE pumping. ZPE (epo field) -- FRET -- H -- Hydrino -- virtual neutron -- transmutation 6.8 eV is the ionization potential of positronium. Half of that is the rest mass of the electron anti-neutrino. Twice that value is the IP of hydrogen (13.2 eV) also known as Ry The Rydberg constant, which can be calculated from more fundamental constants using quantum mechanics; and twice Ry is the the Hartree energy E(subH) employed by Mills - which is equal to the absolute value of the electric potential energy of the hydrogen atom in its traditional ground state. The absorption spectrum of the phenanthrene cation has been computed to have its stongest resonance at 3.4 eV and its initial fluorescence can lie in photon radiation at 3.4 eV. That is the reason it works so well to catalyze the virtual neutron - as it can supply a rest mass equivalent energy (and perhaps QM spin as well) for the electron anti-neutrino in addition to pumping the hydrino ever lower and lower in radius. And to think - this chemical is found in common creosote, coal, and asphalt. Hey, even that may be no accident if some early forms of life actually used this energy or transmutation pathway (Kervan's chicken ancestors g) IOW what I am hypothesizing here, is that Mills 27.2 eV does not need to be supplied in a single dose resoant hole or photon as he suggests -- but instead can easily and more elegantly be pumped from the epo field using a FRET intermediary such as phenanthrene. This would be a most amazing and elegant coincidence, if even partly accurate... BTW - I would be remiss in not mentioning my 3.4 eV connection in this evolving hypothesis - none other than Fred Sparber, who convinced me of the importance of this value, which is found all over physics (like the smile of the Cheshire cat). We used it in another wild invention of his, which if memory serves - we called at one time the sparberino... which is not a bad name for the ZPE pump. The sparberino-pump - like it! Robin wrote: There another possibility that keeps nagging at me It occurs to me that perhaps there is something like CHy,
[Vo]:quantum fusion
Hi All, 12-1-08 What are your thoughts on The Quantum Fusion Hypothesis by Robert E. Godes in ISSUE 82, November/December 2008, of Infinite Energy? http://www.infinite-energy.com/ The article is not online, where all I could find is the enclosed below. Jack Smith -- http://electronicdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm'AD=1ArticleID=15870 Robert Godes of http://profusionenergy.com/ wrote: ``Here is some food for thought. The DOE has established a huge feeding trough full of Other Peoples Money, (OPM) pronounced opium, to which they are fully addicted. There are more promising alternative paths to hot fusion than ITER. See work involving Boron 11 +H and there is even more progress being made in LENR reactors. Try as they did, they did not completely kill the misnamed 'Cold Fusion' technology. I say misnamed because the physics underlying it is fully described in a patent application publishing on September 6th 2007, U.S. Patent Application No. 11/617,632. I quit my day job in 2005 to start Profusion Energy, which will license the IP to build and produce products that will use what Profusion Energy calls 'Quantum Fusion'. We already have devices; yes multiple repeatable devices, that work reliably in an open container. We are currently looking for someone who can work out the math involved with the molecular Hamiltonian, for a white paper on the subject. We are also looking for an angel ... investor, as family and friends ... have taken it about as far as it can be taken in an open container. An investment of $2M will get my team in to an adequately equipped lab and allow us to collect hard calorimeter data on energy production in 12 to 18 months. An investment of $500K would allow me to rent lab space and get the equipment necessary to start collecting data by myself. At this level of funding it will take two to three years to collect the required data.'' Robert Godes, August 30, 2007
[Vo]:Federal Reserve Notes
Robin van Spaandonk wrote on 11-28-08: Could someone explain to me how the Federal Reserve Banks get Federal securities to pledge, in the first place ... Thomas Malloy wrote: Dah, they print them up. Congress gives it's approval, of course. Robin van Spaandonk wrote: I assume you are saying that they print up the securities, which are effectively IOUs? What I'm really trying to get at is the exact flow of wealth between the Federal Reserve banks and the government of the USA ... Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Unlike all other federal agencies, the Federal Reserve Board is *not* constrained to running a zero-sum operation. They can actually create money ... As I recall, when the Fed has a burning desire to create more money, they do it by purchasing government securities. In other words, the Treasury borrows money, as usual, by selling bonds, but in this case they sell the bonds to the Fed, and the Fed uses magic money to buy the bonds. The magic money never existed before the bonds were purchased, which is what makes it magic ... Michael Foster wrote: The issuing of currency by the Federal Reserve is unconstitutional, not that anyone is paying attention. This is supposed to be the the exclusive power of the Congress, most of whom have not even a passing familiarity with our Constitution, or have only contempt for it ... The vast majority of the money supply is not currency, but bank issued debt. The present multiplier allowed to commercial banks is 10. That is, they can lend out ten dollars for every dollar deposited in them. So it hardly matters what happens the cash in circulation. The recent massive increase in the apparent money supply created by derivatives is nearly incalculable, made possible by the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. Money created as debt is the root cause of our present financial debacle, and virtually all the previous ones. Incidentally, the Federal Reserve is not a bank and not a part of the government. It has twelve member banks and is a privately held company. It's instructive to read the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Robin van Spaandonk wrote: This is precisely why I am asking these questions. ;) Michael Foster wrote: The Federal Reserve operates independent of the U.S. government. Our government raises money through taxes, tariffs or fines. In addition the government may raise money through the issue of bonds, notes, or other debt instruments that are generally available to anyone. That might include one of the Federal Reserve banks. Essentially, there is no flow of money between the Federal Reserve banks and the government except if the banks buy government debt or pay taxes. Robin van Spaandonk wrote: This reads as though a private company creates money out of thin air, which the government then borrows perpetually putting the people of the US into debt to the private company, with no real benefit in exchange for the debt. Freely translated, this is highway robbery, on a scale so grand as to dwarf the imagination of Joe Sixpack, thus allowing it to continue indefinitely. That would mean that the US population is in consequence a slave population. Michael Foster wrote: The vast majority of the money supply is not currency, but bank issued debt. The present multiplier allowed to commercial banks is 10. That is, they can lend out ten dollars for every dollar deposited in them. Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: I believe that is incorrect. What you said, which I've also seen quoted on the Internet in various places, would make no sense -- the money lent out would be coming from noplace, and banks, unlike every other sort of company, would have the ability to lend out stuff they don't have to start with. They can't do that; only the federal government has the power to create money, and it's been delegated to the Federal Reserve Board. Banks are *not* magic, and cannot create money, no matter what that asinine Brasscheck video about debt money tells you. The real situation is actually a bit different: If the current reserve requirement is 10%, then they can lend out 9/10 of each dollar on deposit -- not ten times each dollar on deposit! The reserve requirement, which is may be what this alleged multiplier refers to, is a *restriction* on banks, *not* a special power granted to them. There is a true multiplier involved, which is a theoretical value obtained by assuming every borrower deposits the full value of the loan back into another bank, which then can lend out most of it to yet another borrower. With a reserve requirement of 10% this multiplier effect is about a factor of 9. What that means is that, if the Fed deposits $100 in a bank, the money which flows into the economy as a result is actually about $900. This is probably the multiplier you're thinking of, *but* it's not because banks are allowed to lend out more than they take in; rather it's because sum_0^infinity (a^n) = a / (1 - a) Harry wrote: I don't see how the flow can balance if
[Vo]:Free Energy Intentionally Put Off?
Hi Jed, contempt not content. Jack Smith Jones Beene wrote: First off - how does anyone benefit, even an oil company (if they were behind EarthTech's funding)? No oil company would ever benefit from maintaining the status quo in the face of a real breakthrough advance, by even a tiny fraction of the net effect of how they would massively benefit by capitalizing on the advance itself. Jed Rothwell wrote on 11-27-08: That is incorrect for several reasons. First, oil company presidents, a U.S. Vice President and most recently the Japanese Min. of Science and Technology have told cold fusion researchers that they will not allow funding for cold fusion research because if it works it would disrupt the energy economy. (Meaning it would oil company profits.) That is what they said, and I am sure they meant it. I personally have spoken to and gotten written messages from high level decision makers in corporations and governments who said this sort of thing. Second, read the history of technology and commerce and you will find countless examples of corporations, government departments, armies, navies and so on that fought tooth and nail to prevent technological progress. They sometimes succeeded for years, or decades. An example I often give is the New York dairy associations that successful fought to prevent the pasteurization of milk from 1870 to 1917, because it would add a few pennies per bottle of milk. During this time they sickened and killed hundreds of thousands of their best customers -- small children, including one of my great-grandmother's children. They were finally forced to pasteurize when WWI U.S. soldiers assembled on Long Island and were sickened by contaminated milk. U.S. automobiles fought successfully to prevent the use of seat belts and other safety measures from the 1920s until the mid-1960s. They fought energy efficiency and hybrid technology so well they have driven themselves into bankruptcy. In the early 1980s, minicomputer companies such as DEC and Data General fought a rear-guard battle to avoid using microcomputers and compatible PCs, rapidly putting themselves out of business. A few years later IBM nearly destroyed itself trying not to modernize, because it was run by people who did not themselves use PCs, and held them in contempt. A Wall Street Journal writer compared this to a music publisher run by tone-deaf people. I described reason #3 in my book. Oil companies have no experience or qualifications to develop cold fusion or the Mills effect. There is no chance they will play a role in this development. This would be like expecting the Pennsylvania Railroad to develop airplanes in 1903, or an airline system in the 1940s. There are other reasons, such as the fact that there will be little or no profit to developing cold fusion, as I described in the book. It will reduce per capita energy expenditures from ~$2,500 per person to a few dollars. There will be profits in selling peripherals and cold fusion powered machines, but not the energy itself. - Jed
[Vo]:Earth's minerals have evolved over time
Harry Veeder wrote 11-21-08: Cosmos Online, Monday, 17 November 2008 ``Earth's minerals have evolved over time SYDNEY: Geologists have found that Earth's 'mineral kingdom' has co- evolved with life, and that up to two thirds of the more than 4,000 known types of minerals can be directly or indirectly linked to fiological activity ...'' -- Hi All, Has Gaia produced us fire-making animals to stop Earth from plunging into another deep freeze? You may find the follwoing of some interest: Jack Smith --- http://naturalscience.com/ns/articles/01-03/ns_folk.html ``Nanobacteria: surely not figments, but what under heaven are they? ROBERT L. FOLK Note 1 Department of Geological Sciences, University of Texas, Austin, Texas 78712, USA Received February 11, 1997, published March 4, 1997 Summary: Nannobacteria are very small living creatures in the 0.05 to 0.2 micrometer range. They are enormously abundant in minerals and rocks, and probably run most of the earth's surface chemistry. Although I conjecture that they form most of the world's biomass, they remain biota incognita to the biological world as their genetic relationships, metabolism, and other characteristics remain to be investigated. Introduction Nannobacteria are dwarf forms of bacteria, mostly 0.05 to 0.2 micrometers, about one-tenth the diameter and 1/1000 the volume of ordinary bacteria. The word was first published as nanobacteria by Richard Y. Morita in 1988, but I used the spelling nanno- to conform with geological usage, e.g., nannoplankton. ... Discovery The important role of nannobacteria in the mineralogical world was discovered through dumb luck, idle curiosity and random reading. There was no LIFETIME RESEARCH PLAN or THIS CAN GET ME LOTS OF NATIONAL FUNDING idea involved. I was simply looking for a good excuse to continue doing field work in Italy because I loved the food and lifestyle, and hit upon the idea of working on the travertines of Rome (travertine is a whitish type of limestone, usually porous, formed in springs, lakes and streams, and has been used as building stone in Rome for 2000 years). Together with Professor Henry S. Chafetz of the University of Houston, I began work on the Italian travertines in 1979. In the course of this research it was discovered by chance that normal-sized bacteria, mainly sulfur-oxidizers, had played a very substantial role in precipitating this stone from the warm springs at Tivoli. Before this discovery neither Chafetz nor myself knew or cared anything about bacteria, as we were specialists in microscopic examination of limestones. In 1988, I returned to Italy to study the hot-spring travertines of Viterbo, about 50 km northwest of Rome. A new electron microscope with magnifications up to 100,000X began to reveal hordes of tiny bumps and balls. At first I passed them off as artifacts of sample preparation or laboratory contamination, as had every other scientist who had studied minerals and rocks with the scanning electron microscope (SEM) ... After a year of doubts, a little reading in Microbiology unearthed the fact that very small cells called ultramicrobacteria did in fact exist. With further SEM work, slowly the realization dawned that there really were entombed in minerals enormously abundant cells of this minute size (Figure 1), and in some examples the minerals seemed to be entirely made up of nannobacteria as closely packed as beans in a bag ... Sometimes within a single crystal of mineral, part of the crystal would be crowded with nannobacteria and parts would be deserted, belying the idea of artifacts or that's the way minerals naturally dissolve. Their occurrence in chains and grape-like clusters further attested to their true living status ... Although DNA analysis of mineralized nannobacteria has yet to be done, some attempt has been made by medical researchers who find nanobacterial cells the same size as those I have observed, with cell walls that are very tough and that are resistant to acids, stains and poisons. Because of the tough walls special methods are required to isolate the DNA which occurs as very short strands (O. Kajander, Univ. Kuopio, Finland, personal communication) ... Occurrence At the initial discovery site, the hot springs of Viterbo, Lazio, Italy, some nannobacteria are found in untreated samples along with rare bacteria of normal size (Folk 1993b). However, upon slight etching with HCl, hordes of nannobacteria are revealed entombed in the calcite and aragonite crystals, like peanuts in peanut brittle ... Once they were discovered in the travertines of Viterbo, nannobacteria were soon found in limestones and dolomites (CaMg(CO3)2) in rocks of all ages back to two billion years old (Folk 1993a) ... Silica minerals also show evidence of precipitation by nannobacteria. Such has been observed to be the case with opal, chalcedony, chert and cristobalite (Folk et al. 1995). They are revealed by brief etching with
[Vo]:We have dark high energy company, Nemesis?
Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...are we really sure that the biblical measurements imply a cube shape? Perhaps they just indicate a total volume in a way that was comprehensible to the locals. ;) Horace Heffner wrote: This is indeed apparently highly dependent on the translation and interpretation of Revelation 21:16. One interpretation is simply that the length, width, and height are the same. This could describe a sphere or a variety of shapes. Michel wrote: Ahem, there seems to be a less heavenly explanation to those cloud structures: http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060515/full/news060515-17.html ``Geometric whirlpools revealed Recipe for making symmetrical holes in water is easy ... Bizarre geometric shapes that appear at the centre of swirling vortices in planetary atmospheres might be explained by a simple experiment with a bucket of water. Researchers at the Technical University of Denmark in Lyngby have created similar geometric shapes (holes in the form of stars, squares, pentagons and hexagons) in whirlpools of water in a cylindrical bucket.'' Harry wrote: I have wondered if ET would signal with particles instead of em waves. Hi All, Just some thoughts in the spirit of this conversation: My level of belief does not seem to be able to go beyond That door is shut. I'll have open it to walk through the doorway. Like those guy's with tails in 'Childhood's End', I just have to live with my limitation -- I never felt bad about demonstrating fields on an overhead projector to innocent students although I privately thought a field was just a calculational convenience. Personally, I can get my mind around particles better than waves; but the real issue is what is the best design equation for the situation at hand. As far as big bangs, neutrinos, phlogiston, epicycles, black holes, etc. are concerned, for me they are interesting fancies. Some day I would like to run across a proof of the statement that No more than 30 angels can dance on the head of a pin at the same time. On a more serious note, I get the feeling that the American Taliban would like to criminalize interpreting the Bible, especially Revelation. The passage of the anti-gay constitutional amendment in California (shades of Jonestown) should be strong evidence that their efforts to impose a Christian Sharia on us should not be taken lightly. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Man cured of AIDS
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 11-18-08: The Michelson-Morely experiment was designed to test a prediction made by a particular aether theory which was widely accepted at that time. The prediction was contradicted by the results of the experiment. Hi All, Lorentz explained the null result of the MM experiment by inventing length contraction. Apparently he believed that length contraction saved the ether theory of that time. Jack Smith Stephen A. Lawrence also wrote: According to the Kiplinger Letter, dated Nov 14 [2008], they had the following comment to make concerning our nation's natural gas reserves: ``A U.S. natural gas boom? Better believe it, and it'll begin in just a year. Look for rapid development of monumental-size natural gas deposits trapped in mile-deep shale formations that zigzag beneath N.Y., Pa., Ohio and W.Va. The Marcellus Play contains as much as 1000 trillion cubic feet of gas. If there is that much and it can all be mined, it will meet U.S. needs for 40 years, at current usage. New drilling techniques make it more feasible and profitable. Among the firms involved: MarkWest Energy Resources and Atlas Energy Partners. That should slow the rise in prices. They've soared 400% since 2000. But relief may be tempered. Demand for gas will grow sharply when Congress imposes emission limits on carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas linked to global warming. That will mean a greater reliance on gas-powered plants.'' Jack writes: I think T. Boone Pickens has the right idea here: Generate 400,000 mega-watts of electricity, half the U. S. current electrical capacity, with windmills in the Texas to Canada wind corridor. Shut down the U. S. power plants currently using methane (about 20% of U. S. capacity), and use that methane as compressed natural gas to fuel most U. S. trucks. That would reduce U. S. oil consumption by 30%, according to Pickens.
[Vo]:Stale gasoline problem with plug in hybrids
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:17:53 + Taylor J. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, The Wall Street Journal article sounds to me like Oil Gang propaganda. They want us to use rock oil because it's their product; and I think they will do ANYTHING (e. g. Lincoln and Kennedy) to destroy alternative energy. Joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Kennedy, sure, but Big Oil also killed Lincoln?? Hi All, Big Oil did not kill Lincoln, and I don't know that the Oil Gang had Kennedy whacked. I just named these assassinations as examples of how far those, who feel their financial interests are threatened, may go. Like the murder of Gene Mallove, there may be more to it than random bad luck. Just because it makes us feel uneasy is not a good reason to reject the possibility of conspiracy -- and you also, Brutus? Jack Smith
[Vo]:Global Warming and the next ice age
Hi All, 11-14-08 You may find the enclosed below interesting. Jack Smith --- http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/will-next-ice-age-be-very-very-long/ BLOG from The New York Times, 11-12-08, By Andrew C. Revkin ``Will the Next Ice Age Be a Very Long One? A new analysis of the dramatic cycles of ice ages and warm intervals over the past million years, published in Nature, concludes that the climatic swings are the gyrations of a system poised to settle into a quasi-permanent colder state -- with expanded ice sheets at both poles. [UPDATE 11/13: Authors and critics debate the findings.] In essence, says one of the two authors, Thomas J. Crowley of the University of Edinburgh, the ice age cycles over the past million years are a super-slow-motion variant of the dramatic jostlings recorded by a seismograph in an earthquake before the ground settles into a new quiet state. He and William T. Hyde of the University of Toronto used climate models and other techniques to assess the chances that the world is witnessing the final stages of a 50-million-year transition from a planet with a persistent warm climate and scant polar ice to one with greatly expanded ice sheets at both poles. Their findings have stirred a lot of skepticism in the community of specialists examining ancient records of past climate changes and how they might relate to variations in Earth's orbit and orientation toward the Sun and other factors. I'll be adding some of their reactions overnight (I'm on the road). The Nature paper (abstract and citation below) goes on to propose that humans, as long as they have a technologically powerful society, would be likely to avert such a slide into a long big chill by adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere. That doesn't obviate the need to curb such emissions and the prospect of dangerous climate warming in the short run, Dr. Crowley said. But it is more evidence that like it or not, the future of conditions on Earth is likely to be a function of human actions, whether chosen or not. The idea that human actions can dominate the climatic influence of things as grand as shifts in a planet's orbit is hard to grasp, but quite a few climate specialist say it's pretty clear this is the case. In 2003, I wrote an article exploring when scientists think we'll slide into the next ice age (the conventional variety). James Hansen of NASA echoed Dr. Crowley, saying that as long as we're technologically able, we'll be able to keep the big ice at bay. Strange, wonderful stuff, climate science. The paper citation details and abstract are below (it's not online except for subscribers): Nature Vol 456| 13 November 2008 doi:10.1038/nature07365 LETTERS Transient nature of late Pleistocene climate variability Thomas J. Crowley William T. Hyde Climate in the early Pleistocene1 varied with a period of 41 kyr and was related to variations in Earth's obliquity. About 900 kyr ago, variability increased and oscillated primarily at a period of ,100 kyr, suggesting that the link was then with the eccentricity of Earth's orbit. This transition has often2 - 5 been attributed to a nonlinear response to small changes in external boundary conditions. Here we propose that increasing variablility within the past million yearsmay indicate that the climate system was approaching a second climate bifurcation point, after which it would transition again to a new stable state characterized by permanent mid-latitude Northern Hemisphere glaciation. From this perspective the past million years can be viewed as a transient interval in the evolution of Earth's climate. We support our hypothesis using a coupled energybalance/ ice-sheet model, which furthermore predicts that the future transition would involve a large expansion of the Eurasian ice sheet. The process responsible for the abrupt change seems to be the albedo discontinuity at the snow - ice edge. The best-fit model run, which explains almost 60%of the variance in global ice volume6 during the past 400 kyr, predicts a rapid transition in the geologically near future to the proposed glacial state. Should it be attained, this state would be more `symmetric' than the present climate, with comparable areas of ice/sea-ice cover in each hemisphere, and would represent the culmination of 50 million years of evolution from bipolar nonglacial climates to bipolar glacial climates. - http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/more-on-whether-a-big-chill-is-nigh/ [UPDATE 11/13: Authors and critics debate the findings.] November 13, 2008 More on Whether a Big Chill Is Nigh By Andrew C. Revkin [UPDATE, 12:30 p.m.: Thomas Crowley responds to critiques below.] I was on the road yesterday and had no time to collate earth scientists' reactions to the Nature paper positing that the world, after 450,000 years of climatic turmoil (the ice ages and warm spells) is poised to enter a quasi-permanent big chill (unless we avert it, after
[Vo]:Stale gasoline problem with plug in hybrids
Hi All, The Wall Street Journal article sounds to me like Oil Gang propaganda. They want us to use rock oil because it's their product; and I think they will do ANYTHING (e. g. Lincoln and Kennedy) to destroy alternative energy. As far as speed limits are concerned, when former Governor Taft raised the truck speed limit on the Ohio Turnpike from 55 mph to 65 mph, I stopped using the Ohio Turnpike. It was just too hard on my nerves to be sandwiched between to semis going 75 mph. Jack Smith Jed Rothwell wrote on 11-12-08: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122645159441719325.html ARTICLE from The Wall Street Journal, 11-08, by Holman Jenkins, Jr. [Comments in square brackets by Felix Kramer of CalCars.] ``Obama's Car Puzzle You have in GM's Volt a perfect car of the Age of Obama -- or at least the Honeymoon of Obama, before the reality principle kicks in. Even as GM teeters toward bankruptcy and wheedles for billions in public aid, its forthcoming plug-in hybrid continues to absorb a big chunk of the company's product development budget. This is a car that, by GM's own admission, won't make money. It's a car that can't possibly provide a buyer with value commensurate with the resources and labor needed to build it. It's a car that will be unsalable without multiple handouts from government. [COMMENT: even before federal tax credits were announced, 40,000 buyers signed up at http://www.gm-volt.com, in addition to the 400,000 who signaled their interest when the car was announced.] The first subsidy has already been written into law, with a $7,500 tax handout for every buyer. Another subsidy is in the works, in the form of a mileage rating of 100 mpg -- allowing GM to make and sell that many more low-mileage SUVs under the cockamamie fleet average mileage rules. [COMMENT: cars and trucks still have separate MPG standards.] Even so, the Volt will still lose money for GM, which expects to price the car at up to $40,000. [COMMENT: most new cars lose money when they're first produced. GM's modular Volt design is a platform for multiple cars (starting with the Opel Flextreme diesel version of the Volt).] We're talking about a headache of a car that will have to be recharged for six hours to give 40 miles of gasoline-free driving. What if you park on the street or in a public garage? Tough luck. [COMMENT: The first buyers will be among the many tens of millions of households with garages.] The Volt also will have a small gas engine onboard to recharge the battery for trips of more than 40 miles. Don't believe press blather that it will get 50 mpg in this mode. [COMMENT: That's what well-designed hybrid cars get.] Submarines and locomotives have operated on the same principle for a century. If it were so efficient in cars, they'd clog the roads by now. [COMMENT: That's why the Prius and the Honda Civic sell well.] (That GM allows the 50 mpg myth to persist in the press, and even abets it, only testifies to the company's desperation.) Hardly mentioned is the fact that gasoline goes bad after a few months. If the Volt is used as intended, for daily trips of 40 miles or less, the car's tank will have to be drained periodically and the gas disposed of. [COMMENT: In a well-designed system, stale gas doesn't become an issue for a long time--not having been to a gas station for that six months to a year be a problem I'd love to have!]'' -- Horace Heffner wrote: The US could vault forward on transportation energy conversion by ... reducing speed limits ... Jed Rothwell wrote: Good idea. I do not see why any highways has a speed limit above 60 mph. Between Atlanta and Washington there are hundreds of miles of 65 to 75 mph highway, which seems excessive to me.
[Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...
Hi All, Ayn Rand hated the Communists. If you want to see where she was coming from, read We the Living, a novel by Ayn Rand. Published in 1936, We the Living was Ayn Rand's first novel. http://www.noblesoul.com/orc/books/rand/living/index.html Jack Smith Jed Rothwell wrote: I could be wrong is just what Rand and communists would never say. They thought their economic systems were constructed on scientific principles.
[Vo]:Give them an inch, they'll take a friggin' mile...
Terry wrote: And, yes, Greenspan admitted he FU. He opened the gates expecting the banks to protect themselves. He misjudged human greed. Hi All, Greenspan knew the extent of the thievery that was going on. He thought the Kondratieff upswing would hide it, but too much was being stolen. We are now in the position of a company that has suffered a major embezzlement; but, in this case, thanks to Phil Gramm and the other deregulators, what the theives did was legal. However, we are still in a K. upswing. All we have to do is pour in capital. Come on President Obama, spend a trillion making jobs building windmills, etc. And, if oil hit $40/barrel by Christmas, don't blink. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Obama asks for input
Richard wrote: The inputs to prez elect B.O. have started. First order of business .. to revive the economy. Prez elect was advised the economy was dead. He refused to believe it. Taken to the examining room, he was show the carcass. He demanded a second opinion and was told it wasn't necessay, the carcass was dead. He demanded further exams be performed so... they brought in a Chocolate ... Lab Retriever and he sniffed and declared the carcass dead. Next a Siamese cat was brought in to sniff the carcass and again the carcass was declared dead. Upon leaving the examining room, prez elect B O was presented a bill for a trillion dollars. He screamed .. what is this bill for ??? and was told that since he didn't accept their diagnosis, they had to do some additional lab work and a cat scan which ran up the bill. Hi All, In the same vein, why should the Republicans be the only ones allowed to debase the money supply -- over $10 trillion in debt incurred by Reagan and the Bushes? Why shouldn't Obama print another trillion and create jobs repairing roads and bridges and building windmills and commuter rail systems? At least we would have something to show for it, unlike the previous $10 trillion. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Colin Powell and Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan
Jeff wrote: Bible prophesy, which has a habit of coming true, indicates that at the end of the age there will be a one world religion that will punish Christian believers, who refuse to deny Jesus, with execution by beheading. Read: Revelation 20: 4 I ask, Is there any major religion on the fast track to world domination that hates the concept of Jesus as God, and that punishes infidels with beheading? It would seem to benefit most of us to postpone the arrival of that religious system as long as possible. Hi Jeff, Speaking of things to avoid, how about the rapture - promoting Darbyites that eagerly await the filling of the Valley of Jezreel with blood to the height of a horse's shoulders? How many people must be slaughtered by the Avenging Angel to supply the required billions of gallons of blood? Is this pro-life or pro-death? Jack Smith
[Vo]:IOUs and ITUs
Harry wrote: If you are worried about Lincoln's greenbacks a bill can be crafted to prevent the minting of money for military purposes. I am not hysterically anti-FED, like some money-cranks. However, I do think people and their respective nations should have the legal option to mint money independent of central banks and bankers, in a thoughtful and regulated way. Hi Harry, Some historians blame Lincoln's assassination on his greenbacks, as well as the unsuccessful attempt on Andrew Jackson and the the successful hit on John F. Kennedy. Each of these Presidents bypassed the private banks to issue money (in JFK's case, the intent to issue money). Jack Smith
[Vo]:Google Project 10^100
Jed Rothwell wrote on 25 Sep 2008: Experts at the Naval Research Laboratory estimate that cold fusion can be fully developed and commercialized for roughly $300 million to $600 million, which is what it cost to develop similar surface effect, solid-state devices such as the Aegis radar. Robin van Spaandonk wrote: If my device works, it could be thousands of times more effective than the current CF reactors, and could be developed for less than 2 million dollars (and that's a very high estimate). With 2 or 3 dedicated people willing to work for free in their spare time and the availability of a good machine shop, a prototype could be built for a few thousand dollars. --- One advantage that CF does have over my design, is that it is essentially radiation free, while my design would most likely result in ordinary fusion reactions. However I think that considering the state the World is currently in, that many would be prepared to accept ordinary fusion as a stop gap measure until a radiation free form could be developed. --- I have chosen a different approach. Make a guess at the mechanism, and assume it is correct. Then optimize a design based upon the guess. Build the design. If the guess was correct, it will pay off. If not, then little is lost. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk Hi Robin, I want to send you $1000 US for your project, no strings. Please post instructions. Thanks, Jack Smith
[Vo]:The end of corn-ethanol
Subject: The end of corn-ethanol
Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:54:14 -0700
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Source: Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Hi All,
This is great news. With compressed natural gas freed up
by wind power electricity to run U. S. trucks, (See the
Pickens Plan) there is no reason that the U. S. could not
be an exporter of oil in five years.
Follow the example of the Iranians. They sell all their
oil and run their cars and trucks on compressed natural
gas. So there are no refineries to blow up.
The process described below is great for making liquid
fuel, to be stored, transported, and sold by existing
facilities, to be used in plug-in hybrids.
Jack Smith
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Jones wrote on 9-23-08
``Great News for the Heartland - in fact it comes from the
corn-belt, but will certainly cause the collapse of high
corn prices eventually, possibly as early as next year if
subsidies for ethanol are removed.
The end of food-grain derived ethanol now appears to be
firmly on the horizon!
Yesterday, an alternative fuel developed by U of Wisconsin
prof. James Dumesic was announced which looks a lot like
the gasoline and diesel fuel used in vehicles today. That's
because the new fuel is identical at the molecular level
to petroleum-based fuel. The only difference is where it
comes from.
The process creates transportation fuels from
unedible plant material, even waste and especially
sawdust. Dumesic's paper is published in 'Science'
(copyrighted) but the feedstock is said to be any kind
of lignocellulose.
Lignocellulose refers to nonedible sources of biomass
instead of corn, and includes ag waste, corn stovers
(leaves and stalks), switchgrass and forest and yard
residue. The process begins by converting lignocellulose
into raw sugars to which a solid catalyst in an aqueous
solution is added, leading to the an organic oil-like
solution floating on top of the water. The oil layer,
which is easily separated, contains molecules of ketones
and cyclics which are functional intermediates. These
molecules are the precursors to fuel. No distillation
will be required since these, like gasoline are not water
soluble.
No distillation means a *Big difference* in the net energy
balance, so that even if the yield per ton is lower,
the end-result is far better. Corn is now selling at the
equivalent of 18 cents per pound - an all-time high and
triple its historic range. Most ag waste is unused and
costs around 2 cents per pound, or is free - if you will
remove it. Therefore even a 50% lower yield means the
relative cost of feedstock goes up to 4 cents versus 18
cents. Due to changes in supply and demand, this gap will
close - but there are other great reason NOT to use corn.
Plant sugars contain equal numbers of carbon and oxygen
atoms, making it difficult to create high-octane or
cetane fuels. The solution was to catalytically remove the
oxygen. The reactive molecules then can then be upgraded
into different forms of fuel, and that is why the yield
is lower.
Dumesic's team demonstrated three different upgrading
processes- meaning that this is fairly robust and could
be in pre-commerical prototype stage soon.
This is fantastic news! Here is the good professor's
homepage:
http://jamesadumesic.che.wisc.edu/home.htm
BTW - there have been at least two announcements by others
of something similar but less advanced - so this is not the
only possible way to end the used of food grain for fuel.''
Jones
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http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1159210?ijkey=cDSwxrRJ6esFQkeytype=refsiteid=sci
Abstract Published Online
September 18, 2008
Science DOI:
10.1126/science.1159210
Reports
Submitted on April 16, 2008
Accepted on September 5, 2008
``Catalytic Conversion of Biomass to Monofunctional
Hydrocarbons and Targeted Liquid-Fuel Classes
Edward L. Kunkes 1, Dante A. Simonetti 1, Ryan M. West 1,
Juan Carlos Serrano-Ruiz 1, Christian A. Gärtner 1, James
A. Dumesic 1*
1 Department of Chemical and Biological Engineering,
University of Wisconsin-Madison, Madison, WI 53706, USA.
* To whom correspondence should be addressed. James
A. Dumesic , E-mail: dumesic{at}engr.wisc.edu
It is imperative to develop more efficient processes for
conversion of biomass to liquid fuels, such that the cost
of these fuels would be competitive with the cost of fuels
derived from petroleum.
We report a catalytic approach for the conversion of
carbohydrates to specific classes of hydrocarbons for use
as liquid transportation fuels, based on the integration
of several flow reactors operated in a cascade mode, where
the effluent from the one reactor is simply fed to the
next reactor. This approach can be tuned for production of
branched hydrocarbons and aromatic compounds in gasoline,
or longer chain, less highly branched hydrocarbons in
diesel and jet fuels.
The liquid organic effluent from the first flow reactor
contains mono-functional compounds, such
[Vo]:Thawing Permafrost Holds Vast Carbon Pool
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Check out the snowball Earth era(s) which occurred in the past. Glaciation was extreme, reaching all the way -- or nearly all the way -- to the Equator. The Earth's albedo went sky-high, as a result of which the effective insolation rate plummeted -- runaway cooling. Why, you may ask, do we no longer have a snowball Earth? What finally stopped the runaway? Apparently what ended it was volcanism coupled with the fact that plant life on Earth was basically dead or dormant. Little CO2 was being pulled from the atmosphere by the plants, but volcanoes went right on pumping the stuff out. The result was massive CO2 accumulation in the atmosphere. Finally the greenhouse effect grew strong enough to melt the snowball, despite the high albedo. But to get to that point the CO2 level had to go sky-high -- many times higher than the baseline value, and far, far higher than it is now. Horace Heffner wrote: I haven't seen any evidence this is true. My understanding is the ice melted due to vulcanism changing the albedo by depositing dust on the ice. If this happened then there would be no CO2 overshoot. Hi All, The Snowball Earth evidence is condensed at http://www.avonhistory.org/lakes8.htm#n3 It was aired on The BBC at 2 9.00 pm on Thursday, 22nd February 2001 Below is a pertinent excerpt: Jack Smith ``... NARRATOR: But Kirschvink was racked by the insurmountable paradox of the runaway freeze, that if a snowball Earth had ever happened then science said we should still be entombed in ice today. JOSEPH KIRSCHVINK: How do you get out of it? Obviously the climate modellers had assumed that that was an irreversible step and that you would never get out of it and yet we're out of it now and if we had been in it before some point we must have gotten out of it. NARRATOR: To get out of the deep freeze what Kirschvink needed was a power that would stay hot, even when the whole planet had frozen over, something that Budyko hadn't thought of, something that could burn for ever, something like hell. JOSEPH KIRSCHVINK: Looking at an active volcano you realise that magma tens or hundreds of kilometres below the surface couldn't care less whether there was a thin layer of ice over the oceans. It will still emerge. NARRATOR: Volcanoes survive ice ages because they have a direct channel to the molten rock deep within the Earth, rock that reaches temperatures of over 1,000 degrees, but that would only melt ice in their immediate area. Kirschvink had spotted something else about volcanoes: they also produce gas, ten billion tons a year. One gas volcanoes emit in huge quantities is carbon dioxide, a gas that causes the greenhouse effect and global warming. Today carbon dioxide is being pumped into the atmosphere by both volcanoes and industrial activity, but what stops the Earth from overheating is that we have a natural way of removing the excess carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Rain is the Earth's natural cleaning agent. As it falls through the atmosphere each droplet of rain absorbs carbon dioxide and cleans the air, but Kirschvink realised that on a snowball Earth there could have been no rain. The snowball was so cold all the water on the planet's surface was frozen solid. Without liquid water nothing could have evaporated into the air, so there would have been no clouds and without clouds there can be no rain and without rain, Kirschvink realised, there would have been nothing to cleanse the atmosphere of carbon dioxide. JOSEPH KIRSCHVINK: You can't have rain if you don't have evaporation, so I couldn't see anything that would scrub out the carbon dioxide from the atmosphere under those conditions. NARRATOR: It meant there would have been nothing to stop the carbon dioxide from the volcanoes from building up over millions of years. It would have caused global warming on an inconceivable scale. Kirschvink came across calculations showing that after ten million years without rain the atmosphere would have been 10% carbon dioxide. Today it is far less than 1%. This extra carbon dioxide would have created a greenhouse effect that raised the temperature to an average of 50 degrees Centigrade, hotter than the Earth has ever been, hot enough to melt the ice. JOSEPH KIRSCHVINK: And that seemed to be a natural and possible escape, certainly enough to break the snowball, the ice condition. NARRATOR: Joe Kirschvink had cracked it. He had found the way out of the runaway freeze, a way that made perfect scientific sense, a way that was consistent with the laws of nature. JOSEPH KIRSCHVINK: The realisation that we may have found the way out of the snowball was wonderful. NARRATOR: By 1990 Kirschvink had evidence that the tropics had frozen over for ten million years and he'd come up with a theoretical escape route from the runaway freeze, but the problem was it was just a theory. He had no physical evidence to prove the ice had melted because of an
[Vo]:Thawing Permafrost Holds Vast Carbon Pool
Hi All, Correction: I should have said The Snowball Earth evidence is condensed at http://www.avonhistory.org/hist/lakes8.htm#n3 Jack Smith
[Vo]:Sunspotless
Rick Monteverde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 9-5-08: ``... Stephen, I don't care what a majority of scientists or mainstream publishers or whatever have concluded, just as I'm sure Jed doesn't care how many think CF is bunk, in terms that situation having any bearing on the nature of the evidence or the conclusions he has come to regarding the evidence. They can all be wrong, and in the case of CF we're pretty certain they are, so there's your proof that a consensus does not necessarily mean much. There is significant evidence pointing away from the warming cause being related to the huge (what, 4 tenths of a percent is it?) CO2 output we're responsible for. In addition, computer models used to support it as a cause are inherently flawed ...'' --- Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Friday, September 05, 2008 10:59 AM: ``... In any case, from what I've read, the experts, while not 100% certain of the cause, are in near-universal agreement that it is *very* *likely* that the cause is anthropogenic greenhouse gases. One reason for concluding this, which doesn't take a sophisticated model to understand or reason about, is that anthropogenic atmospheric CO2 has been skyrocketing IN PARALLEL with the global temperature, [See remarks by Chuck Blatchley below] ... As someone put it, we're conducting an experiment in terraforming on an enormous scale and if the results don't work out well we're going to be in trouble. Perhaps we should scale back the pace of the experiment, eh?'' - Rick wrote on 9-6-08: Robin, well and concisely put. I only take issue with #3 because of the assumptions that we should be trying to interfere with the situation, and that warming is necessarily a bad thing in the long run. Used to be a lot warmer, and for a very long time. I say let nature handle the climate. It's our job to adapt to it. So let's put our opposable thumbs and big brains to work on the right problems. That still leaves people like you for #6 in at least the same, if not an even better, position. Right? --- Hi All, As I've mentioned previously, the real issue is not whether burning fossil fuels is the main reason for global warming; the real issue is whether or not we are going to be trapped into sending young Americans to die for oil in the Kazakh War of 2020, which will make the current military adventure in Iraq look like a training exercise. The situation is scary: Paraphrasing a recent speech to a wildly cheering crowd, My friends, my platform is more death, more recession, and eternal dependence on foreign oil. Jack Smith Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Friday, September 05, 2008 11:35 AM ``Subject: Sunspotless In reply to Rick Monteverde's message of Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:25:43 -1000: Hi, Rick wrote: The argument is whether there are anthropogenic causes to it. I say that the models are incapable of directing that conclusion because of their inherent shortcomings. Robin wrote: I agree that the models are only models and will never get it 100% correct, however a few facts are obvious. 1) CO2 is a greenhouse gas. 2) The temperature is rising. 3) Reducing CO2 is the only means we have of influencing the situation (albeit that we don't know exactly how (in)effective that will be). 4) As a byproduct of switching from fossil fuels, we get less air pollution which is better for our health. 5) If we do it right, we make a net profit rather than a net loss. 6) If my ideas on fusion are correct, then that is going to be a very large profit.'' Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 9-6-08 ``While a warmer world might be nice in some respects, it could have major consequences for humanity. 1) Coastal flooding (where most major cities have been located for historical reasons). 2) Spreading of tropical diseases into temperate zones. 3) Possible major shifts in what will grow where. This could have a serious impact on agriculture. 4) Increases in the frequency and severity of weather extremes (which will also impact on agriculture). While we undoubtedly have the ingenuity to deal with all of these things, it is unlikely we can do so at no economic and political cost. By political cost, I mean the cost in lives lost due to wars brought on by major migrations of people when the region where they currently live becomes unsustainable. A primary example of this is Bangladesh. Therefore it seems wise to me to make a profit by pulling on the only lever we have and possibly making a difference, rather than just sitting back and doing nothing (while probably making the situation worse) while we incur considerable extra costs.'' --- Stephen wrote: I don't understand why you seem to feel humans have no control over human-generated carbon dioxide. Rick wrote: How you got that I don't know, but please don't tell me. Of course we can control
[Vo]:Sunspotless
Jones Beene on 2 Sep 2008 wrote: ``One interesting point which I am surprised is not often mentioned in this polarized debate: Blow up the third chart on Michael's cited reference, and contemplate the full implication of the Maunder Minimum and the so-called little ice age ... ... and the likelihood that we could be on the brink of a repeat of this in 2008... If it turns out that what humans are doing to the environment is in fact - on the bottom line, and after all is said and done - NOT harmful in itself due to these unusual circumstance - and that wanton CO2 release is simply forestalling another little ice age then - YES - that can seen by most of us non-specialists as a *good thing*, at least in the short term. However, it does not follow that what Algore is promoting is itself unscientific. Quite the contrary. Like it or not, he IS the spokesperson for the majority of specialists in the field - although admittedly there exists a strong and vocal minority of specialists who do not go along with most of it and especially the way it has been politicized. The bigger question for the rest of us - what is the true situation? -- and the true unpoliticized risk of this situation? -- i.e. IF both Algore AND also his critics are partly correct in that yes, humans are rapidly changing the normal course of environmental change in a way which could have been harmful, BUT that change, as it turns out is not harmful at all, and in fact the short-term benefit is poised to have the (unforeseen by the polluters) effect of forestalling another little ice age Interesting moral dilemma, if nothing else ... wrong for the right reason, or right for the wrong reason? Jones Michael Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could a significant global cooling effect be taking place.? I notice there is a deafening silence from Pope Algore and his Church of Global Warming on this subject. It would be very inconvenient for the selling of carbon indulgences, oops... that's offsets. Nothing is made of the fact that 2007 saw the largest one year drop in average global temperature in recorded history. Didn't hear about that did you? Almost everyone who lives on the real earth, rather that the computer climate model earth, has noticed that it's been a lot cooler lately. Where I live in southern California, winter before last winter was the coldest since 1948, but of course nothing was made of that in the news. I lost 500 feet of ficus hedge because it froze to death. There was a massive die-out of native plant species in the canyons near my home as well, all frozen. The fast dancing and circumlocutory nonsense spewing forth from the Global Warming Priesthood grasping for some explanation are becoming both shrill and comical. The real reason for climate changes, solar activity, is showing us something quite the opposite of Algore's dreamworld. You know, that's the one where all of us ride bicycles and starve to death, while Algore flies about in his Gulfstream and has a special lane on the road for his fleet of SUVs while he grows ever fatter. Anyone else notice he's begun to resemble a fat Bela Lugosi? There has been a total lack of sunspots for a month. This is not good news, either for real people or Algore. This normally indicates a significant colder period on the earth, or even an ice age. We need to get really serious about energy supplies, both conventional and new, especially the new ones. We also need to quit whining about genetically modified crops. If there is a long term colder climate, agricultural output will plummet. More energy and higher crop yields in a shorter growing season will be essential to prevent the starvation of millions or even billions. Here is a link to the observations about the lack of sunspots:'' http://www.dailytech.com/Sun+Makes+History+First+Spotless+Month+in+a+Century/article12823.htm - Hi All, Enclosed below are some interesting posts from the Cycles Group. Jack Smith PS: I am strongly in favor of energy alternatives to rock oil regardless of the causes of global warming. This is the most pressing national security problem that we face. We should not be trapped into sending young Americans to die for oil in the Kazakh War of 2020. - ``Source: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [cyclesi] Digest Number 2556 Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 4:13 pm ((PDT)) 53.5 and 210 year Solar Cycles Peaked in 1990s Posted by: Ray Tomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] rjtomes Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 4:13 pm ((PDT)) I just noticed that the 53.5 year cycle is modulated also, being stronger when the 210 year cycle is high and weaker when itis low. Such a modulation results when there are beats between a 53.5 year cycle and a cycle of about 71 years. All these components are in Dewey's table of common cycles ... 53.25, 71, 213 years. Some articles relating to this longer cycle in climate and the Sun:
[Vo]:Sunspotless
Jones wrote on 9-3-08: Jack, Thanks for the update and particularly the strange message of Bill Arnold . Do you have a url for his paper? I cannot find it in a quick goggling. Common name. It is bizarre enough to be insightful, if not accurate. Is he saying that sunspots create corresponding earthspots which are responsible for such things as the extremely rainy weather in the midwest USA. He needs to lighten up a bit on the caps, but is there a grain of truth there? - Hi Jones, There may be a grain of truth here; but I'm biased because I'm into plasma cosmology which steers one toward electrical explanations. Anyway, Bill does have interesting ideas. Some references are shown below. Jack --- Bill Arnold Author of Arnold's Law Mathematics of Bode's/Arnold's Law, spacing of planets around the sun. Read Bode's Law Explained: http://cyclesresearchinstitute.org/astronomy/arnoldbode.pdf Special Theory of Order: mechanism of our Solar Planetary System: http://www.cyclesresearchinstitute.org/astronomy/arnold_theory_order.pdf
Re: [Vo]:OT: Conspiracy preserving the Status Quo
Harry Veeder wrote: What does it take to ignite thermite? Hi All, Thermite can be ignited with a short thin strip of magnesium metal, which can be lit with a match. Every high school chemistry laboratory which I spent any time at always had powdered aluminum metal and iron oxide powder on hand, as well as at least one roll of magnesium stripping. These things can be ordered from the ads at the back of Popular Science. In addition to my students, my own kids were fascinated with pyrotechnics. I would make the thermite from the aluminum and iron oxide powders, and a family project would be to use it to burn out ground hornets. First, bags of napalm, made by dissolving polystyrene (McDonald's cups) in gasoline, were placed on the nest. Then a cup of thermite was put on top of the napalm. Finally a strip of Mg would be inserted into the thermite and lit. Destroying large paper bald-faced hornet nests in trees was much more mundane: The kids would aim their shotguns at the nest from several angles and simultaneously fire. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Wild card in the Arctic?
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 7-28-08: ``Subject: Wild card in the Arctic?? Heading off to bed, I took a glance at the headlines -- and noticed this, just in from Devoir: ... 412 billion barrels of petroleum. A third of the proven reserves of the planet. That's what the depths of the Arctic contain, according to the most recent evaluation by the U.S. Geological Survey. ...'' --- Brian Prothro wrote: ``Yes, it has been known that a whole lot of oil was in the Arctic, I was not aware it might be that much. Of course the question on some peoples mind is do we want to use it investing in new long term oil extraction and commitments or do we want to move towards cleaner energy solutions instead ...'' --- Hi All, Sadly, there is no peak oil; and the Oil Gang, having wrung as much out of us as possible for the moment, will probably let oil drop to $40/barrel (busting the union pension funds that are playing the futures) before the end of 2008 to smash efforts toward alternative energy. We should treat foreign oil like heroin and make it difficult to drill oil wells on U. S. territiry -- JUST SAY NO TO ROCK OIL -- if we do not break our addiction to oil, young Americans will die for oil in the Kazakh War of 2020. Probably the most practical alternative is hybrid electric cars using Liquified Natural Gas (methane) as the hydrocarbon fuel, especially since T.Boone Pickens is pushing natural gas. See http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/ Jack Smith
[Vo]:The Pickens Plan
Horace Heffner wrote on 7-9-08: Good news that oil folks are getting on the band wagon ... http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/ ``The T. Boone Pickens Plan America is addicted to foreign oil. It's an addiction that threatens our economy, our environment and our national security. It touches every part of our daily lives and ties our hands as a nation and a people. The addiction has worsened for decades and now it's reached a point of crisis. In 1970, we imported 24% of our oil. Today it's nearly 70% and growing. As imports grow and world prices rise, the amount of money we send to foreign nations every year is soaring. At current oil prices, we will send $700 billion dollars out of the country this year alone - that's four times the annual cost of the Iraq war. Projected over the next 10 years the cost will be $10 trillion; it will be the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind. America uses a lot of oil. Every day 85 million barrels of oil are produced around the world. And 21 million of those are used here in the United States. That's 25% of the world's oil demand. Used by just 4% of the world's population ... What's the good news? The United States is the Saudi Arabia of wind power. Studies from around the world show that the Great Plains states are home to the greatest wind energy potential in the world by far. The Department of Energy reports that 20% of America's electricity can come from wind. North Dakota alone has the potential to provide power for more than a quarter of the country. Today's wind turbines stand up to 410 feet tall, with blades that stretch 148 feet in length. The blades collect the wind's kinetic energy. In one year, a 3-megawatt wind turbine produces as much energy as 12,000 barrels of imported oil. Wind power currently accounts for 48 billion kWh of electricity a year in the United States mdash; enough to serve more than 4.5 million households. That is still only about 1% of current demand, but the potential of wind is much greater. A 2005 Stanford University study found that there is enough wind power worldwide to satisfy global demand 7 times over mdash; even if only 20% of wind power could be captured. Building wind facilities in the corridor that stretches from the Texas panhandle to North Dakota could produce 20% of the electricity for the United States at a cost of $1 trillion. It would take another $200 billion to build the capacity to transmit that energy to cities and towns. That's a lot of money, but it's a one-time cost. And compared to the $700 billion we spend on foreign oil every year, it's a bargain. An economic revival for rural America. Developing wind power is an investment in rural America. To witness the economic promise of wind energy, look no further than Sweetwater, Texas. Sweetwater was typical of many small towns in middle-America. With a shortage of good jobs, the youth of Sweetwater were leaving in search of greater opportunities. And the town's population dropped from 12,000 to under 10,000. When a large wind power facility was built outside of town, Sweetwater experienced a revival. New economic opportunity brought the town back to life and the population has grown back up to 12,000. In the Texas panhandle, just north of Sweetwater, is the town of Pampa, where T. Boone Pickens' Mesa Power is currently building the largest wind farm in the world. At 4,000 megawatts -- the equivalent combined output of four large coal-fire plants -- the production of the completed Pampa facility will double the wind energy output of the United States. In addition to creating new construction and maintenance jobs, thousands of Americans will be employed to manufacture the turbines and blades. These are high skill jobs that pay on a scale comparable to aerospace jobs. Plus, wind turbines don't interfere with farming and grazing, so they don't threaten food production or existing local economies. A cheap new replacement for foreign oil. The Honda Civic GX Natural Gas Vehicle is the cleanest internal-combustion vehicle in the world according to the EPA. Natural gas and bio-fuels are the only domestic energy sources used for transportation. Natural gas is the cleanest transportation fuel available today. According to the California Energy Commission, critical greenhouse gas emissions from natural gas are 23% lower than diesel and 30% lower than gasoline. Natural gas vehicles (NGV) are already available and combine top performance with low emissions. The natural gas Honda Civic GX is rated as the cleanest production vehicle in the world. According to NGVAmerica, there are more than 7 million NGVs in use worldwide, but only 150,000 of those are in the United States. The EPA estimates that vehicles on the road account for 60% of carbon monoxide pollution and around one-third of hydrocarbon and nitrogen oxide emissions in the United States. As federal and state emissions laws become more stringent, many
[Vo]:U.S. Freezes Solar Energy Projects
Horace Heffner wrote: ``I'm hopefully not given to apoplexy, but this just about did it for me: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/27/us/27solar.html?_r=2oref=sloginoref=slogin Faced with a surge in the number of proposed solar power plants, the federal government has placed a moratorium on new solar projects on public land until it studies their environmental impact, which is expected to take about two years. The Bureau of Land Management says an extensive environmental study is needed to determine how large solar plants might affect millions of acres it oversees in six Western states Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico and Utah. How asinine can government be. Let's see, on one hand we have a few hundred square miles of desert, on the other we have survival ... hm ... yep, we need a two year study to weigh that one.'' Ed Storms wrote: ``Every normal person is in favor of protecting the environment [but it is] the hypocrisy shown by the administration that is so stupid. For example, drilling in the coastal waters or in Alaska is all right even though the harm to the environment is obvious. But, covering areas that are unused and out of sight by equipment that will eventually be removed has to be debated. Meanwhile, it is ok to rape the land in Canada for oil shale while we are encouraged to use more oil. Even the ethanol idea was a cruel hoax that is now too expensive to continue because energy is too expensive to be used to raise corn for that purpose. Given the basic approach this administration has shown, it is easy to think that protecting the environment is simply a fig leaf for killing the competition to oil.'' Hi All, Stupid is the wrong word. We should admire the genius of the gang running our government. They are masters of deception in convincing a lot of people that they are stupid. They are not stupid; they are fiendishly clever; and they are robbing us blind as they destroy the economy and the environment. We must not forget that their product is rock oil, and that THEY ARE IN THE OIL SHORTAGE BUSINESS. Jack Smith
[Vo]:the Fall Guys
Hi All, As Thomas Friedman says below, the new Bush energy plan is Get more addicted to oil. How is it possible that the Oil Gang thinks that the American people will buy this? Is it the Bigger the Lie the Better it Works? The novel The Body Politic by Lynne Cheny and Victor Gold is a window into the thinking of the current masters of the universe. This hilarious book is based on Section 2 of the Twemty-fifth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States which says Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress. Lynne Cheny probably knows as much about the vice presidency as anyone, and also probably shares the same attitudes as the current incumbent, her husband (my fingers wanted to type Darth Vader). The plot is based on the President's plan to sell the Vice Presidency to each of several Senators in return for their support of his nomination at the convention. They are all told secretly from each other that the Pres intends to dump his current VP, who messes up the plan by dying in the arms of a leading journalist. This untimely death, which could force the Pres to name one person prior to the convention, sets up a very funny situation comedy in which the VP's press secretary is given the task of hiding the body and keeping the VP's death secret. Ultimately, the dead VP, through the efforts of his press secretary, becomes the most popular politician in the country, ready to seize the nomination from the President. The real fall guy in this comedy is the American public, which Lynne Cheny portrays as infinitely gullible. I think she, as well as Darth, sincerely believe this. So it is not surprising that the Oll Gang thinks that the Bush - McCain energy plan to drill in ANWR and off the shores of California and Florida will be swallowed by the American public hook, line, and sinker -- such suckers can easily be convinced that the U. S. addiction to rock oil can only be treated by swilling more oil. Is it hopeless to remind our fellow citizens that we didn't leave the Stone Age because we ran out of stones? --- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/22/opinion/22friedman.html?hp COLUMN from The New York Times, 6-22-08, By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN [Toking on the oil pipe] ``Two years ago, President Bush declared that America was addicted to oil, and, by gosh, he was going to do something about it. Well, now he has. Now we have the new Bush energy plan: Get more addicted to oil. Actually, it's more sophisticated than that: Get Saudi Arabia, our chief oil pusher, to up our dosage for a little while and bring down the oil price just enough so the renewable energy alternatives can't totally take off. Then try to strong arm Congress into lifting the ban on drilling offshore and in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge [ANWR]. It's as if our addict-in-chief is saying to us: C'mon guys, you know you want a little more of the good stuff. One more hit, baby. Just one more toke on the ole oil pipe. I promise, next year, we'll all go straight. I'll even put a wind turbine on my presidential library. But for now, give me one more pop from that drill, please, baby. Just one more transfusion of that sweet offshore crude. It is hard for me to find the words to express what a massive, fraudulent, pathetic excuse for an energy policy this is. But it gets better. The president actually had the gall to set a deadline for this drug deal: I know the Democratic leaders have opposed some of these policies in the past, Mr. Bush said. Now that their opposition has helped drive gas prices to record levels, I ask them to reconsider their positions. If Congressional leaders leave for the Fourth of July recess without taking action, they will need to explain why $4-a-gallon gasoline is not enough incentive for them to act. This from a president who for six years resisted any pressure on Detroit to seriously improve mileage standards on its gas guzzlers; this from a president who's done nothing to encourage conservation; this from a president who has so neutered the Environmental Protection Agency that the head of the E.P.A. today seems to be in a witness-protection program. I bet there aren't 12 readers of this newspaper who could tell you his name or identify him in a police lineup. But, most of all, this deadline is from a president who hasn't lifted a finger to broker passage of legislation that has been stuck in Congress for a year, which could actually impact America's energy profile right now, unlike offshore oilcw -- that would take years to flow -- and create good tech jobs to boot. That bill is H.R. 6049, The Renewable Energy and Job Creation Act of 2008, which extends for another eight years the investment tax credit for installing solar energy and extends for one year the production tax credit for producing wind power and for three years the
[Vo]:irrational thinking
Hi All, Now Mohamed ElBaradei follows in the footsteps of Admiral Fallon. Jack Smith Ed Storms wrote on 6-20-08: ``If you would like to understand the irrational thinking that drives the policy with respect to Iran and Israel, read this article.'' http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2008/06/iran-neocons-sa.html ``NEWS ARTICLE from The Los Angeles Times, 6-19-08, IRAN: Stop nukes by bombing oil wells, neocons suggest Why attack Iran's nuclear facilities when striking their oil infrastructure would be much more effective in the scope of a US-led preventive war? Sure, oil prices might skyrocket and the world economy might collapse. But, hey, that's the price you pay for security ...'' -- http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/nuclear-chief-warns-against-strike-on-iran/2008/06/22/1214073053820.html NEWS ARTICLE from The Sydney Morning Herald, 6-23-08, by Agence France Presse, Reuters ``Nuclear chief warns against strike on Iran DUBAI: The head of the United Nations atomic watchdog has warned that an attack on Iran over its nuclear program would turn the region into a fireball.. Mohamed ElBaradei also warned he would not be able to continue in his role as director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency if the Islamic republic were attacked. A military strike [against Iran] would in my opinion be worse than anything else. It would transform the Middle East region into a ball of fire, he said in an interview with Al-Arabiya television. The New York Times on Friday quoted US officials as saying a big Israeli military exercise this month, involving more than 100 fighter jets in the Mediterranean, seemed to be a preparation for a potential strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. In Athens, an official with the Greek Air Force's central command confirmed the substance of the report, stating that Greek units had taken part in joint training exercises with Israel off the Mediterranean island of Crete ... Dr. ElBaradei said any attack would simply harden Iran's position in its row with the West over its nuclear program. A military strike would spark the launch of an emergency program to make atomic weapons, with the support of all Iranians, including those living abroad, he said ...'' --- http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-saudi23-2008jun23,0,4540236.story NEWS ARTICLE from The Los Angeles Times, 6-23-08, By Sebastian Abbot, The Associated Press ``Saudi Arabia makes vague pledge to boost oil output JIDDA, SAUDI ARABIA -- Facing strong U.S. pressure and global dismay over oil prices, Saudi Arabia said Sunday that it would produce more crude this year if the market needed it. The vague pledge fell far short of U.S. hopes for a specific increase and may do little to lower prices immediately. For now, the current oil shock leaves Western countries with little choice but to move toward nuclear power and change their energy-consumption habits, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown warned at a rare meeting of oil-producing and consuming nations. Saudi Arabia -- the world's top crude exporter -- called the gathering Sunday to send a message that it too is concerned by high oil prices inflicting economic pain worldwide. Instead, the meeting highlighted the sharp disagreement between producers such as Saudi Arabia and consuming countries such as Britain and the United States over the core factors driving steep price hikes. Oil closed near $135 a barrel Friday -- almost double the price a year ago. The cost of gasoline also has become a sore point in the U.S. presidential race, with President Bush and presumed Republican nominee John McCain calling on Congress to lift its long-standing ban on offshore oil and gas drilling. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, has said such moves will do nothing to ease American consumers' pain short-term. The U.S. and other nations argue that oil production has not kept up with increasing demand, especially from China, India and the Middle East. But Saudi Arabia and other OPEC countries say there is no shortage of oil and instead blame financial speculation and the falling U.S. dollar ...''
[Vo]:IEA has it wrong?
Horace Heffner wrote: The IEA is suggesting a $45T program and over $1T/yr to cut carbon emissions 50% by 2050. See: http://www.iea.org/Textbase/press/pressdetail.asp?PRESS_REL_ID=263 This is on the order of the $26-33T, $1.5T/yr, and 20 yrs I predicted in 2005 would take for 100% conversion. See: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/BigPicture.pdf http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/EnergyCosts.pdf However, that projected cost was for 100% elimination of carbon fuels. The primary difference is the IEA plan relies on 32 new nuclear plants each year: ... It appears most people just don't expect what is even already in the works in solar energy development. Hi All, We need to hedge our bets, since for national security reasons we must stop using rock oil NOW! This means making methanol and diesel (including biodiesel) our national liquid fuels -- we have the coal to do it, from the Mississippi to the Rockies. Nuclear, wind, and hydro power should be in the mix, especially if Yellowstone blows and the Sun is blotted out for several years. Jack Smith
[Vo]:Oil Gang responds
Ed Storms wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008: This approach has been applied repeatedly with the same outcome. For example, during the cold war, Russia made simple and cheap reactors that powered their satellites. We, on the other hand, tried to make a perfect reactor that totally failed. As a result, we were forced to use solar panels that even today make the satellites easy targets. These are the kinds of decisions that eventually lead to failure even though our arrogance make them look good at the time. You can see the same attitude being applied to the Iraq situation. We never learn. Hi Ed, The objective evidence is that our policy in Iraq has been an outstanding success from the view point of those in control of the U.S. government, namely the Oil Gang. In fact, the destruction of the Golden Mosque which started the Sunni - Shiite civil was classic imperial strategy: Divide et Impera. Previously I wrote The gangsters have taken another hit, and Admiral Fallon deserves the credit. Meanwhile, the oil glut is intensifying as the U. S. miltary has been able to nullify Bush's laughable sabre rattling, increasing the probability of $40 per barrel oil before the end of 2008. The terror premium could soon evaporate, and the price of oil could drop to $70 per barrel ovenight. What will the Oil Gang do about this? ... Well, now we know. Jack Smith -- http://www.pbs.org/nbr/site/onair/transcripts/080606b/ TRANSCRIPT fom The Nightly Business Report, 6-6-08 ``John Kilduff, Energy Analyst at MF Global Offers An Outlook on Oil SUZANNE PRATT: Joining me now to talk about that huge move in oil prices today is John Kilduff, energy analyst at MF Global. John, welcome back to the program. JOHN KILDUFF, SR. VP, ENERGY, MF GLOBAL: Thank you Suzanne. PRATT: So it was a crazy day in the energy market. Tell us what happened. KILDUFF: Well, it was really one for the record books. We had never been lock ... limit up. Futures rose as much as they possibly could today, and the commodity markets are still a little old-fashioned with our circuit breakers and we reacted strongly to several of the things that you've been speaking about in this broadcast so far. I think chief among them though was the shudder that was sent through the market from Israel and the comments from their transportation minister, who isn't just some transportation minister. This gentleman was a former defense minister, is seeking to succeed Ehud Olmert because of the scandal that's going on embroiling his administration, and he also made a comment that U.S. military had approved of this plan. [' Israel's Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz told a newspaper that Iran faced airstrikes if it did not abandon its nuclear program.'] So the oil traders didn't really want to stick around too long to get the details on that. They just bought with both hands because of the potentialities that exist and the repercussions that would come from such an attack. PRATT: So is geopolitical risk now back on the table? It was sort of missing from the marketplace for a little while. KILDUFF: We were, for a while, really just dealing with the economics of everything. From the -- from watching the value of the dollar closely, watching interest rate moves very closely, even hanging each day on the various data points to see if the economy was slowing or not, which would dictate future energy demand and whether or not prices were justified at the ever-higher levels. But, yes, this brought the geopolitical worries front and center once again. PRATT: About a month ago I think I believe you were saying that you thought the top for oil prices would be somewhere in the $130s range. Now we're almost approaching $140. Are all bets off for you? What do you think? Where are we going in terms of prices? KILDUFF: We're at a crossroads. I have to say the bias is towards the upside still now. We had called for $138 to be the top and when we hit $135 at the end of May, we thought that it might have been over. A lot of things are certainly coming together to argue for that. The dollar had stabilized and was rebounding. Some of the economic data points were sufficiently down ... not the least of which was U.S. motorists driving about 6 percent less and diesel fuel consumption down about 8 percent. But now that is all out the window. I think you have to say it's going to go higher still before it can crack and go back lower. PRATT: So today we had Morgan Stanley analysts saying $150. Weight in on this. Where do you think we're going? KILDUFF: At this point obviously setting a new high. We are looking now at the next target is $142. You're going to need some help, some events of some import to get to that $150. The Israeli worry here today was one of those that needed to emerge. And, to be honest, to the extent that we see climb down from this by Israel and talking it down by the U.S. military, some of this worry could quickly come out of this market. So I think
Re: [Vo]:BLP makes yet another announcment
Hi All, 5-30-08 This news is exciting: Jack Smith Source: john_e_barchak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:30:56 Subject: BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) today announced ... ``BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) today announced the successful testing of a new energy source. BLP has developed a prototype power system generating on demand 50,000 watts of thermal power using its solid fuel in a batch process and has extensively characterized the hydrino products - Commercializable Power Source from Forming New States of Hydrogen.'' http://www.blacklightpower.com/papers/WFC052708webS.pdf -- Mike Carrell wrote on 5-28-08: ``My take on BLP strategy. The publication of reports of experiments and theory lets all see the RD, especially the patent department, a full log of reduction to practice over many years. In the companion paper Commercializable...you will find the approach is somewhat different from the research effects. There will be a flood of imitators and BLP has to protect its investors with strong patents. I expect some royal battles to establish patent rights. The performance of the solid fuel is spectacular, at 50 kW and rising. Reconstituting the fuel requires only standard chemistry, but design of the automatic proces will be interesting. The process is scalable, so there will be automotive and possibly the proverbial household water heater. New design everywhere. It will take time to debug and optimize the applications. The press release implies engagement of major construction firms to built megawatt prototypes for utilities to replace oil, coal and gas. This is perhaps a fulfillment of promises made to some of the early investors, who were/are utilities. The world will change, mark this occasion. It is comparable to activation of the first fission nuclear reactor in Chicago.'' -- Jones Beene ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 5-28-08: ``Subject: BLP makes yet another announcment Take this with a grain of sodium chloride, as it is merely a first impression (for now), and comes from a Kibitzer who wants to be a Mills-advocate, but keeps bumping into those little obstacles called facts. But it is more than a bit curious - and I hope that this is not sounding too cynical - since this could be a major announcement from BLP, or not ... ... but it is worth mentioning that, among other things, Mills now (but never before) goes to great lengths in the preamble of this rather well-camouflaged expose' to shoehorn the elements chlorine and sodium into the mix as catalysts- all of which is following (just a bit too closely) the Roy Kanzius announcement. It is worth noting that rampant rumors have been circulating for about 5 weeks around two universities which are in proximity to Mills (in PA) of actual OU being found in that salt-water experiment! Plus - where is the reactor in question? Where is the data about its operation? I thought this paper was supposed to be substantive about that, instead of thinly camouflaged back-tracking (to take credit for something outside the previous range of what is a hydrino)? (i.e. the disappointment is found in lack of details but is not obvious, as there is much (too much) superfluous detail in the text, but little data-wise wrt the main supposed-subject: the reactor itself: where's the beef?)... CAVEAT: this Roy-Kanzius thing is now in the hands of major players, with resources and reputations greater than Mills - and was NOT ever announced as over-unity, and will not be, until or unless there is absolute certainty; so it is just high-level rumor thus far. That episode could be unrelated to this new announcement - or not- and is mentioned here with the caveat (and not on the HSG forum) only in the context of the surprise finding by Mills that the very same elements, which are active in Kanzius' work under RF irradiation, are now turning out to be hydrino catalysts. Surprise, surprise. Kinda reminds one of the haste in which PF made their premature announcement in 1989. Excuse me! but is not this the very FIRST TIME in the past two decades of plodding hydrino-tech that sodium and chlorine have been mentioned as catalysts ? They certainly do not fit into the original formula very well - PLUS give me a break - the way the two are shoehorned in - there is little doubt that every element in the periodic table could now be included as catalysts by manipulating the numbers this way. And coming on the heels of the Roy/Kanzium experiment, well- red flags should be going up left and right and not just among Mills' critics... I hope that I am wrong on this, as I do admit that R. Mills is a very accomplished, genius-level inventor; therefore, I will now step=off my soap-box and let one of Mills apologists come along with the obligatory: Mills is the new messiah spiel - and he can do no wrong so obviously his critics have not done their homework LOL - and studied every word of the Book his CQM gospel, every implication of
Re: [Vo]:How many volcanoes would it take...
OrionWorks wrote: Assuming we could magically, starting tomorrow, stop emitting all forms of CO2 as a result of our technology: How many active volcanoes would it take to produce an equivalent amount of CO2 that humanity currently produces ... thomas malloy wrote: Compared to the volcanoes, all 6,000,000,000 of us are the equivalent of a pimple on an elephant's rear end. Hi All, My impression, and I have no numbers to back it up, is that volcanoes are only important when a mega-volcano like Toba (70,000 ago) or Yellowstone (due any day now) blows. The major daily carbon release by the Earth is in the form of methane, an even more effective greenhouse gas than CO2. I don't have any numbers on this either -- maybe C. Warren Hunt estimated it someplace. Even methane release probably has wide swings because some of it may be trapped in water-ice, or is subject to periodic warming of the tundra. All this is beside the point, which is that we must stop using rock oil NOW -- JUST SAY NO TO PETROLEUM! This is a matter of the highest national security. It should be as socially unacceptable to use rock oil as it is to spit on the floor. Jack Smith
Re: [Vo]:Oil price elasticity: Cutting through the fog
Hi Stephen, Nice simulation; but human greed and stupidity, which are impossible to over-estimate, are not factored in. The current oil price bubble, which closely resembles the classic Dutch tulipmania, will probably go they way of all bubbles, since they depend on the 'greater fool' principle. At some point fear trumps greed, and the players lose their nerve; then a run starts. Of course, the bubble will continue if the U. S. takes out the Iranian oil fields. I just read that another Nigerian pipeline was blown up. Mayber Bush told Putin that Bush was going to hit Iran no matter what, and that Putin better stay out of the way, shades of Dr. Strangelove. This may explain the recent Iranian announcement that they are willing to be questioned about their nuclear program. Jack Smith Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: There's so much outright garbage on the Internet about the price of oil, I decided to do a little crude modeling of my own to try to get a handle on this. My conclusion is that, using a trivial model and some simple historical values, it appears that oil may not get past $150 in the next year. Note that at $150/bbl, it's still not going to be soaking up more of world GNP than it was back in 1980, so this is interesting; it suggests near-term dislocations in the United States, Europe, and Canada may be a lot smaller than I, for one, expected. Herewith some numbers and stuff. === To start with, I dug around and found a claim that the price of gasoline has an elasticity of -0.2. OK, that's 1 significant digit, maybe it's kind of close. I didn't find the elasticity of crude oil anywhere, but for the time being I'll go with -0.2. That's certainly very low. (In a monopoly market, prices are naturally set at the point where elasticity = -1.0, for whatever that's worth; -0.2 really is 'way low according to theory and implies prices are far, far below the point at which producer income is maximized.) Elasticity = (dQ/dP) * (P/Q) where Q = quantity sold and P = total revenue. It's normally negative, at least if we use this definition, as the quantity sold normally drops when the price goes up. The next piece of information we need is the natural rate of increase of oil consumption. (There is enormous amounts of garbage spewed about this one!) I found a table of world oil consumption, going from 1900 to 2005. It's located here: http://www.eia.doe.gov/aer/txt/ptb1110.html Assuming it's accurate, we get our first surprise: The compound growth rate in oil consumption from 1900 through 2005 was 3.08%. The growth rate from 1995 to 2005 was 1.79%. This is far, far lower than I expected! Next we need to make some assumptions about supply. If we assume there are 100 bbl/day available now, we can scale that up or down to get supply in one year; call the first Q and the second Q2. Initially, assuming we're /at/ the peak, I assumed flat supply. Finally we need some formulas. Define Q = total starting supply = 100 bbl/day P/Q = starting price = 100 dollars/bbl P = total starting revenue = (P/Q) * Q = 10,000 dollars E = elasticity = dQ/dP * P/Q Now, we're going to have a natural final value for Q, which is the amount demanded if the price remains flat. We define that as Q1: Q1 = final natural demand = 102 barrels, if we assume the natural demand increase rate is 2% per year. P1 = final natural price = starting price = 100 dollars/bbl But we're not going to allow consumption to rise at the natural rate; we're going to pin it to the available supply. This gives us: Q2 = forced final consumption value = 100 bbl/day Now we want to find P2, the final forced price. To do that we go back to the formula for elasticity, which we're assuming is constant: (Q2 - Q1)/(P2 - P1) * P2/Q2 = E For convenience, we'll define delta-Q = Q2-Q1 = difference between forced level and natural level of consumption Fiddling around a bit we get P2 = P1 * (1/(1 - delta-Q/(E * Q2))) I plugged that that into a spreadsheet, and found the following, for a number of values of elasticity and demand growth, but assuming flat supply in each case (unit width font, please): Demand Elasticity GrowthFinal Price -0.2 2 111 *** Based on recent oil use -0.2 3 118 -0.2 5 133 -0.1 2 125 *** Based on recent oil use -0.1 3 143 -0.1 5 200 -0.052 167 *** Based on recent oil use -0.053 250 -0.054 500 -0.055 Floating point overflow Since elasticity is a big unknown I've shown it with -0.2 (value claimed on the Internet), -0.1, and -0.05. I would guess that
