Re: About World Tour 2019: Some answers (JPR)

2019-02-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Feb 15, 2019, at 2:00 PM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote: > [JPR] > Hi Guys, > > As usual, I've again received a lot of mails, from USA and the rest of the > World, asking me if it's important to attend the WT2019, so once again, I've > decided to do a global answer. All of the

Re: Query By Formula ([Table]) v17 Loss of Functionality

2019-01-17 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 17, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Alan Tilson wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean. The window had 2 or 3 boxes per line. The first > one seems only to allow fields to be entered. The 2nd for non-boolean > fields is the comparison box, equals, is different from, etc. The 3rd is a > value. > > This is

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 9, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Tom Benedict wrote: > You have clearly a lot of experience with this, and I have none, so I > probably shouldn’t have joined the thread. However, I have a long standing > interest in SSO and Authentication in general. > > What I’ve found, after working many years

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 8, 2019, at 6:38 AM, Robert ListMail wrote: > Right, I understand the SSO as originally explained—that was very helpful. > Yet, for testing purposes at my location (without the authentication server) > or at the client site when you might need to login as a specific user, how > might

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2019-01-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 8, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Tom Benedict wrote: > Here’s a link to instructions on how to set up a test Active Directory > instance which might work for your testing. I haven’t tried it yet. > https://auth0.com/docs/connector/test-dc It might help. > > As far as switching between 4D

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2019-01-06 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 6, 2019, at 12:52 AM, Tom Benedict wrote: > It doesn’t look like your scheme gets access privileges from Windows Active > Directory, instead you are getting them from your Users table. Is that > correct? No. I am getting access privileges by using the "Current client authentication”

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2019-01-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jan 5, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Robert wrote: > Tim, I just toggled on the checkbox on the server that activates this feature > but I’ve not implemented the code just yet…. So, how do you specify that you > are logging in with the local 4D password instead of SSO? Modifier keys? > Hidden Menu?

RE: WritePro expression undefined

2018-12-21 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 21, 2018, at 2:00 PM, David Ringsmuth wrote: > Add, > > 4D Write expressions did not require a value to be returned, so it was > acceptable to have embedded Query, Create Set, Intersection, Union, Use Set, > Selection to Array, etc…, commands in the 4D Write document. > > Converted to

Annoying square

2018-12-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
Next time you see it, take a full screen picture of your desktop. That might help identify your “square” Tim Sent from my iPhone! On Dec 13, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Carl Aage Wange wrote: > When I am working on forms or programming, a small solid square often > appears in a fixed position above the

e: v16 Replacement for 4D-Pack command: 'AP Get table info'

2018-12-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 11, 2018, at 4:07 AM, Jörg Knebel wrote: > BUT I don’t want to export the entire structure just to check how this > parameter is set for one table. > > The command "EXPORT STRUCTURE” suggests that the information is stored in the > structure file. > > So, how can the parameter

Re: Form Scaling & Optimal Fonts...

2018-12-07 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 7, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote: > to me - form scaling means: > I hit a key (press a button, whatever) and the form enlarges - > think of Command/Control + on a web page. > think of the designer form control 50% 100% 200% 400% > > I have implemented

Re: Form Scaling & Optimal Fonts...

2018-12-07 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Robert ListMail wrote: > I showed a scaled up version of a few forms, during a migration to v17 and > later I decided to move everything to automatic stylesheets as recommended by > Keisuke that this is best practices now. So, Jefferey, are you using > automatic

Re: Publishing a DB on the WWW. Howto.

2018-12-04 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Dec 4, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Pat Bensky wrote: > We've been looking into ways to make it easy for our customers to build > custom websites using data from our 4D app (CatBase). I'm quite interested > in the Wix solution but haven't had time to properly look into it. Anybody > tried this? > >

Re: ORDA to get "record number" value

2018-11-28 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 28, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Christian Sakowski wrote: > Oh… didn’t noticed this. Thanks for the hint. > But anyways… i think he has the answer(s). This thread is as bad as the 4D Forums thread. Nobody will give this guy a direct answer, so he can move on and get some real work done.

Re: Need to convert HTML page with table to JSON

2018-11-28 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 28, 2018, at 3:01 AM, Keisuke Miyakowrote: > the web site you mentioned uses this file > > https://github.com/abdmob/x2js > > but the real challenge is to cajole HTML code that is not strictly XML Good idea. I had not thought to try and do a "DOM Parse XML variable" on the web page

Need to convert HTML page with table to JSON

2018-11-27 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
I have a very simple web page that contains a single table that I’d like to convert to JSON. I can grab the web page with the HTTP Get command. So that’s easy. I found a website that will let me past that web page text and it will created exactly the JSON that I need —

Re: 4D Server automatically setting 'Reject New Connections' ?

2018-11-26 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 26, 2018, at 3:06 AM, Allan Udy wrote: > Has anyone else seen 4D Server spontaneously 'dropping' 4D Client > connections, and automatically setting the 'Reject New Connections' > option in the server Administration window? > > We've seen this with both v16 and v17. Usually when the DBA

Re: Explorer bottom toolbar not displaying...

2018-11-23 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:09 AM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote: > listbox columns etc are saved -- does this include list boxes that are > dynamically built? > i.e. are simply empty place holders in the designer environment? Hi Chip, I do not know. I’ve always built list boxes

Re: Explorer bottom toolbar not displaying...

2018-11-21 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 21, 2018, at 7:48 PM, John DeSoi wrote: > I'm happy there is a simpler work-around than finding some obscure file to > delete. But it would be better if 4D just fixed the issue. If you use > multiple monitors and change configurations this is an ongoing issue. Other > Mac applications

Re: Explorer bottom toolbar not displaying...

2018-11-21 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Garri Ogata wrote: > Greetings, > > Thanks for all the tips. I ended up using the shift key when opening the > explorer window. That was a nice quick fix. > > And I've added the tech tip to my code base and ran it also. > > Thanks again for the help. > > And

Re: Explorer bottom toolbar not displaying...

2018-11-21 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 21, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > or, just close the Explorer and bring it back while holding down the shift > key. > > Open form window (...;*) window bounds are reset with the shift key. Thanks so much for telling everyone about this keyboard fix. And I’m sure it’s

Re: V17 MSC Reports Orphaned Methods...

2018-11-17 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
Hi Robert, You worry too much. Orphaned methods are nothing to lose sleep over. It’s just a 4D bug in how it handles deleting methods connected to objects. It does a less than perfect job of handling this. Sometimes it does it right, sometimes it screws up. Been this way for years in untold

Re: Using 4D v17 Dynamic Forms for Custom Label Printed by Tim Nevels

2018-11-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 9, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Donna GALLIS wrote: > Tim will share a developer tool that allows creating the JSON object that > describes a 4D form. > With this tool you easily create or edit a form. The interface also includes > a “preview” option > so that you can see what the form would look

Re: Forms Stop Receiving Certain Events

2018-11-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Chip Scheide wrote: > Other then having added tables and/or fields, rolling back the > structure to a previous one (say yesterday) is simple and is not a > significant issue. > > If you have added fields and/or tables then there can be issues, > however, I am not

Re: Forms Stop Receiving Certain Events

2018-11-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Sandor Szatmari wrote: > I’m glad to learn that. However, the way our backups are configured I only > see 4BL (the log) and and 4BK (the data) files. Looks like I need to learn > more about the backup configuration process. What is the recommended way to >

Re: 4D Authentication Strategy...

2018-11-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:34 AM, Robert ListMail wrote: > I’ve inherited many 4D databases over the years and some have a custom > password system and some use the built in 4D system or a hybrid approach. I > know that 4D also allows authentication via Active Directory (single sign on) > but I’ve

Re: versioning in 4D

2018-11-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 8, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Charles Miller wrote: > Does anyone know when I assign a version to a build of server, where that > data is stored and where that might be so I can manually modify that number > to do some testing If you are talking about the “Product Version” that is displayed in

Re: Picture Buttons--Benefits of Picture Library

2018-11-07 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 7, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Robert ListMail wrote: > I’ve been working with button images which the picture library... While doing > this I noticed one nice feature of the picture library. When dragging button > graphics from the picture library to a form (assuming that the picture >

Re: Cannot Dismiss Form When Compiled... (Robert ListMail)

2018-11-07 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 7, 2018, at 2:00 PM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote: > While upgrading a v11 structure to v17R3 (Windows), I’ve noticed that the > form (“PCDisplay”) loaded via Modify Selection cannot be dismissed when the > application is compiled. Can you spot the problem? > >

Re: Backing up a VM - is it dangerous ?

2018-11-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Nov 5, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Peter Jakobsson wrote: > Many thanks for the useful replies. > > I’ve contacted the IT contractor to try to negotiate a new backup strategy. > > Hopefully it will be less of a sweat than the China trade talks :-) Peter, If you just enable 4D Backup you should be

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

2018-10-23 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 23, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: > Dani Beaubien writes: >> >> I use the external git client for diffs against historical commits and I use >> the >> Code Analysis component for diffs between what is in the 4D structure >> compares against the last export to the external folder.

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-16 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Robert wrote: > I recently started to use built client/server more often since I inherited a > client that was already doing that. I was told by another developer that when > doing a structure change that I can simply swap the .4DC file and I’m done. > 4D TS

Re: 4D field type Date and json to selection big question

2018-10-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 13, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Andrea Angeli wrote: > I found a problem receiving a json array in a field of type date with no > time, but also with time no 00:00:00.000Z. > So I wanted to share this problem in order to understand what I should aspect > from 4D. > > I know that this is a big

Re: Defining and documenting Objects

2018-10-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 11, 2018, at 9:37 AM, Peter Jakobsson wrote: > I think I might happily pay the price of recreating the variable table for > every process (since I never noticed any adverse effect of that) and use > naming conventions to avoid conflicts to get those features ! ;) > > The original

Re: Volume shadow copy v17

2018-10-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 10, 2018, at 1:48 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > Has anyone implemented this feature and tested to make sure it works as > advertised. Hi Chuck, I’ve got it implemented on one v17 application. Easy to setup. Just launch 4D Server as Administrator and 4D creates a Windows Service called “VSS

Re: Notes on converting pictures to v17

2018-10-08 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 8, 2018, at 11:28 AM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote: > Unexpected discovery - the picture library is still a useful thing! This is so true. I’m still a big user and believer in the Picture Library. There are two big benefits for me: 1. If you are updating your 4D application often

Re: v13 - Relate One Selection issue

2018-10-02 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 2, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > given this table configuration > > Animal <-- Animal_Sample_Link ---> Samples > > if there is at least 1 [Sample_Animal_Link] record shouldn't the > following code load the animal record(s)? > >

Re: Creating a form object to use as dynamic form

2018-09-24 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 24, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Rudy Mortier wrote: > I can’t figure out how to do this … > > Using a dynamic form, I am trying to build a generic list of records to > display to the user and to allow him to select 1 record. > > I used the example from the tech note on how to create a dynamic

Re: PDF generation on Windows - Latest Thinking

2018-09-12 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 12, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > Win10 has a native PDF print engine like MacOS does. You can use it. > I don't think PDFCreator 1.7 whatever will even run on Win10 (but you > probably found that out). PDF Creator 1.7 works just fine on Windows 10. No problems. And it has many

Re: PDF generation on Windows - Latest Thinking

2018-09-12 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 12, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Koen Van Hooreweghe wrote: > Sure it works. We use it with 4D v16 on Windows. > > It is mentioned in the language reference: > http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16/4D/16.4/Integration-of-PDFCreator-driver-under-Windows.300-3978065.en.html > But I think the example has a mistake.

Re: 4D for iOS: anyone?

2018-09-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Vincent de Lachaux wrote: > in works, coming in a next R release (probably R4) I’m glad to see that Vincent is working on this project. He has a long history of making the 4D projects he works on much better and more useful. I believe he is the engineer that

RE: Help?

2018-09-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 11, 2018, at 2:29 AM, Randy Engle wrote: > Started my app, held down alt key. > Dialog: Open Data File > Click OK > "Immediately" held down Shift-ALT-Right Mouse > Selected "Application Process" to trace > > Hit trace in first line of code on ON STARTUP Method.This is the first 3 >

Re: 4D for iOS: anyone?

2018-09-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 11, 2018, at 2:29 AM, Rudy Mortier wrote: > Thanks a lot for the feedback. > > I did go back and edit the templates and fields, so that might be the problem. > > About the selection of data that is downloaded: wouldn’t it be possible to > control that in the ‘On mobile authentication

Re: 4D for iOS: anyone?

2018-09-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 10, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Rudy Mortier wrote: > Has anyone tried 4D for iOS? > > How are the results? > > I have tried with a simple database and tried to publish 3 tables. The form > templates seem to not always display the correct data. > > In the test environment, It doesn’t download

Re: What constitutes use of 4D View Pro?

2018-09-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 10, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Chris Belanger wrote: > I am a little confused about what constitutes use of 4D View Pro and, hence, > requires a license. > > There are a number of features of listBoxes that are described as being > features of 4D View Pro. > >

Re: Isolating the Cause of a Server Crash

2018-09-01 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 1, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Dave Nasralla wrote: > One of our systems is crashing about every 3 days and I can't seem to > isolate the cause. Lately these are crashes with a Mac crash report > appearing on the screen. > Some system details are: > - 4D Built Server app with v17.0 HF1 (64 bit

Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support

2018-08-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Luc Devar wrote: > I certainly hope we can open/save .docx document with 4D Write Pro in a near > future as this is mandatory for me also. I have an application install on > several sites that write contracts from clauses stored in a 4D DB and I need > to use 4D

Re: 4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support

2018-08-29 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 29, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Chuck Miller wrote: > I also have one client that is a huge 4d write user. We also need to have > ability to convert to Microsoft word. Additionally, there are some things we > do not seem to be able to do in write pro so for now, we will be maintain 4d > write

Re: 4D Write to 4D Write Pro

2018-08-29 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM,Richard Wright wrote: > Is there a cross reference of language commands between 4D Write and 4D Write > Pro or do we have to all figure it out for ourselves? > > I’m mystified as to why wrappers for the old commands could not have been > created so as to make the

4D Write Pro WP feature request - need your support

2018-08-29 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Richard Wright wrote: > You’re kidding, right? 4D Write Pro can’t read and write Word documents? Nope, it is true. For this version. I have 2 clients that are big 4D Write users (one with a 90 user license) and use 4D Write to create Word documents. I've asked

Re: New record numbering system and CALL WORKER

2018-08-27 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 27, 2018, at 2:00 PM, John DeSoi wrote: > I don't know. In some simple tests without any contention from multiple > processes, both reading and writing took 0 ms. > > I did not know Storage was slow until this thread came up. I did not see that > in the documentation, maybe only

Re: New record numbering system and CALL WORKER

2018-08-26 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
Humm... interesting comment. Why do you say Storage is slower and can produce deadlocks? Tell us why you believe this. Was my example an example of “not well programmed”? Be honest. Give me real, solid, constructive criticism. This is a forum for exchanging ideas and learning. I’ve been

Re: New record numbering system and CALL WORKER

2018-08-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 25, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Christian Sakowski wrote: > i mainly use Storage as „constants“. I store global attributes and user > specific options and access rights. Those are in fact mostly read only. Hi Christian, And that is a great use of “Storage”. I’ll be doing the same thing in new

Re: New record numbering system and CALL WORKER

2018-08-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 25, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Christian Sakowski wrote: > This is not necessary. For just reading you don’t need to use „use“. > For generating sequence numbers, you have to use „auto increment“. Nothing > else. > For invoice numbers, you now can save the number to the database within >

Re: New record numbering system and CALL WORKER

2018-08-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 25, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Pat Bensky wrote: > Thanks John. > But how would that work in a multi-user setting? Whatever method is used > for assigning the new numbers, it must run on the server, otherwise we're > back to the problem of using semaphores, checking record locking, etc. > Also I

Re: Remove Remembered Password

2018-08-23 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 23, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > not - not a merged app. > C/S > > I was not saying you are wrong, just that there may be other > ways/issues in stopping password saving. Hi Chip, I know, sorry if I sounded rough. I’ve had a few message with Tim Penner at 4D about this

Re: Remove Remembered Password

2018-08-23 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 23, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Chip Scheide wrote: > there is another issue here. > if using a 4Dlink file (and maybe if not) > the password is/can be saved in the link file. > > I have code in my startup routine that handles this issue too. > this code locates the link file, and then removes the

Remove Remembered Password

2018-08-22 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
Here is some code I wrote today due to a request by a client to stop allowing users to remember their password when using the built in 4D user login window. This is that “Remember password” checkbox that you can’t make go away. The workaround is to just delete the file that stores the user name

Re: Sending Text Messages From 4D

2018-08-22 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 22, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jim Hassler wrote: > We had a need to send texts to company employees so we have the luxury of > knowing the cell phone provider. So, we use something like this… > > Case of > >: ([User]Company Cell Phone Provider="AT") > >

Sending Text Messages From 4D

2018-08-22 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
I have a client that has asked me to add the option to send text messages to cell phones from 4D. I know this is possible via some websites or web services for a fee. Has anyone done this and can recommend a web service that you were able to use from 4D to do this? Tim

Re: Creating Windows Taskbar Icons with 4D Version Numbers

2018-08-16 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 16, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Cannon Smith wrote: > Thank, Tim. This is a great tip! In fact, it would make a good Tech Tip. For what it’s worth — if is even necessary — I authorize 4D, Inc. to use this idea to create a Tech Tip.  On macOS I do something different to get the same effect from

Re: First day experience using 4D v17.0 HF1

2018-08-16 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 16, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Tom Benedict wrote: > Thanks for the report Tim. I'm very impressed that anyone is doing > development on 4D Server over the internet. This has only become possible in the last maybe 5 years due to the increases in internet speeds, and the changes 4D has made to

PDF Creation on Windows under v16 -- Changed?

2018-08-16 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
> On Aug 16, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Allan Udy wrote: > > After recently upgrading one of our vertical market apps to v16R6 (from > v14), we're getting reports from several user sites that the (relatively > simple) PDF reports that they've been emailing to their clients are now > failing on a more

Creating Windows Taskbar Icons with 4D Version Numbers

2018-08-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
Today I wanted to add 4D v17.0 and v17.0 HF1 to my Windows 10 taskbar. Sometimes I will have several versions of a 4D version in use and I like to have the 4D version number appear when I hover the mouse over the taskbar icon. That way I know which version I’m launching. So how do you do

First day experience using 4D v17.0 HF1

2018-08-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
I’m working on a project where we upgraded from 4D v16 R3 to v17.0 HF1 today. Development on this project uses 4D Server Team Developer over a WAN for most of the developers — I’m one of them. I’m using an iMac Pro and my internet connection is pretty good — cable modem with 150Mbps down and

Re: ORDA runtime error - seems like a bug in 4D

2018-08-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jeffrey Kain wrote: > This fails every time: > > C_OBJECT($selManuAbbv) > $tManufacturerName:="Levy's" > $selManuAbbv:=ds.ManufacturerAbbv.query("Manufacturer = > :1";$tManufacturerName) > > It's due to the single-quote in the string. Is this a bug in 4D? Did you

Re: Re: Frequent and Random Crashes - since 16 conversion

2018-08-04 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 4, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Bob Miller wrote: > I've recently completed a conversion from 4D v15 -> v16r6 on Windows, for > a built-server application. This also changed the client from a 32 bit > client to a 64 bit client and we went to the "new" network layer. > > Since then, we've had many

Re: Query by Formula bug Client/Server with Automatic Relations

2018-08-02 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Chip Scheide wrote: > with the auto many to one > I would *expect* the selection in the one table to be changed, after > running a query on the many table. I would also expect that the one > table record would be the one (in the one to many) of the first record >

Re: Query by Formula bug Client/Server with Automatic Relations

2018-08-02 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:12 AM, Richard Wright wrote: > I just ran into a problem where running a Query By Formula bug in > Client/Server that has apparently been around for a long time: > > Client/Server > Two related tables and automatic many-to-one is turned on > > 1. Select a record in the

Re: ORDA question: how do I add related fields to an entity selection?

2018-08-01 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 1, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Jeremy French wrote: > Try creating 2-tables with a one-to-many relation. Say "Owner" (one table) > and "Item" (many table.) > In the Relation Inspector, name the relations: > > Many to one as "theOwner" > One to many as "theItems" > > Don't forget to restart 4D

Re: Changes to variable initialization in v16?

2018-08-01 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Aug 1, 2018, at 9:49 AM, Noah wrote: > Is is really 'that bad' to run in interpreted mode? No. The real question to answer “is the application working and are the users happy?” If the answer is “yes” then who cares if it is compiled or not? Same goes for typing variable with “All variables

Re: v13 - Record to Blob?

2018-07-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > I do not see a command that allows this action (directly) > am I missing something, or do I need to write something? No 4D native command. You need Rob’s “API Pack” it has command to go "API Record to BLOB" and “API BLOB to Record" Tim

Re: Orphaned blobs and SSD drives

2018-07-29 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 29, 2018, at 5:46 PM, John Baughman wrote: > In planning for upgrading a client fo v16 I noted that the datafile needed to > be compacted so included a compact in my upgrade plan. > > A few days before I was to do the upgrade my client replace the server’s hard > drive with an SSD. Ok,

Re: Confused about ORDA

2018-07-29 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 29, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Rudy Mortier wrote: > I am a bit confused… isn’t ORDA supposed to be faster than traditional > queries? > > I did a test with a table containing 120,000 records. The query is on 4 > indexed fields and returns 54,000 records. > > Doing the query with ORDA takes 175

Re: 4D v11 on Windows Server 2016 (Win 10 Clients)

2018-07-26 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 26, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Robert ListMail wrote: > Apparently, the client did some testing in that regard, everything seemed to > work except the printing from 4D failed. I’ll just keep them going on the old > hardware until I’m ready to make the change to the new v17 version. This is a

RE: 13.x Quick Report Export Max Output File Size?

2018-07-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 25, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Benedict, Tom wrote: >> besides, Quick Report, as the name suggests, is for quick and simple tasks. >> to be honest, I don't think it was designed to handle files larger than 4GB. > > In that case I guess I'll have to write some code. Don’t forget about EXPORT

Re: WP SET ATTRIBUTES

2018-07-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 15, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Pat Bensky wrote: > I'm sending 4 Attributes (two pairs) plus the target object, so that seems > correct to me ... > > WP SET ATTRIBUTES ( targetObj ; attribName ; attribValue {; attribName2 ; > attribValue2 ; ... ; attribNameN ; attribValueN} ) Hi Pat, Notice the

Re: Execute on Server Method Attribute

2018-07-14 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
I would start simple. First be sure to declare the parameters with compiler directives. Then modify the method to only use a single text parameter. Change the parameter declarations too. Just for testing purposes. Test it. If it does not generate an error with 1 parameter, add a second

Re: WP SET ATTRIBUTES

2018-07-14 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
The WP SET ATTRIBUTES command needs 5 parameters. You are trying to send it only 2 parameters. Tim Sent from my iPad > On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Pat Bensky wrote: > > Using v17 > This works: > > *WP SET ATTRIBUTES*(oCurrentRange;wk font;"Arial";wk font size;14) > > ​so why doesn't

Re: v13 - new behavior, all dev windows closed

2018-07-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 9, 2018, at 6:24 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > when (re)opening a database all windows previously opened in the design > environment are closed. > what did I do, and how do I get 4D to leave all the design windows open? Hi Chip, I can think of 3 things: 1) Remember that if the Option key

Re: Pointer to field using field name

2018-05-17 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 17, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Alan Tilson wrote: > Thank you Koen, Dennis & Chip, > > I probably should have said what I was doing...which is that I'm copying > certain fields from a sister table with some of the same field names. So I > step though all the sister table fields and load the values

Re: setting up mirror

2018-05-15 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 15, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Charles Miller wrote: > Thanks for your update. I assume you have a process on mirror that runs and > delays itself for x amount of time. What happens if you try and create a > second log but first has not been integrated. What do you do? Would you > mind sharing

Re: Picture Buttons in v16

2018-05-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
> On May 9, 2018, at 12:23 PM, Alan Tilson wrote: > > Thank you Sannyasin and Keisuke, for sharing the process in converting the > picture library for v16. > However, my results are not good. > Upon opening our system in v16 and going to Pictures almost everything > displays as a camera wtih a

Re: Access to Runtime Explorer

2018-05-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 5, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: > In a Multi Developer environment none of the developers sign in as the > ‘Designer’ user. We have a group that has access to the Design environment. > We then put developers into this group. > > Therefore, when working on the system none of us

Re: Access to Macintosh Accessibility tools from within 4D

2018-04-30 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Lee Hinde wrote: > A client has been in an accident and has lost use of his hands and needs to > operate his 4D database via speech. I'm told that the Mac Accessibility > System Preference can be configured so that you can talk to your mac and > verbally click

Re: Macro to check that local variables are declared in a method?

2018-04-27 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 27, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: > I would suggest if you are going to write something this far, why not make it > so that it will declare all local variables for you, and remove declarations > that are no longer needed. A great time saver. Of course to go that far, > there needs

Re: Preemptive worker queues

2018-04-20 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
> On Apr 20, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Tony Pollard wrote: > > I’d really like to be be able to see the size of a worker queue (as David > Adams and others have said in the past). In my case I want a one-shot (+1 if > the worker is running), which doesn’t look doable if the calling process is > also

Re: URGENT: 4D in Citrix or Terminal Server environment

2018-04-18 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 18, 2018, at 11:49 AM, Cheryl Michels wrote: > Is anyone using 4D Server in a Citrix or Terminal Server environment and > making use of the ClientLocal folder? If so, may I pick your brain for 15 > minutes ASAP? Thank you in advance!!! I’ve got many instances of 4D Client running on

Re: Clients cannot see v16 R6 on windows server

2018-04-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:00 PM, John Baughman wrote: > First off, I think I found the problem. Looking at the Firewall rules I see > that the ports are being managed by application and I see both R5 and R6 are > listed twice. What I did not notice right off was that the action for R6 was > set to

RE: v13+ LEP - What is sent to OS

2018-04-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 11, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Chip Scheide wrote: > Is there a way to see exactly what is being sent to the (in this case) > CMD, or Terminal? Hi Chip, Every time I am going to do a new LEP command, the first thing I do is manually execute it in a Command or Terminal window on macOS. I don’t

RE: 4D Summit 2018 Comments - Import XML Structure

2018-04-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Randy Engle wrote: > I tried this from several different angles (16r6) > Import XML Structure works like importing records. > It doesn't "update" or "merge", just imports new structure elements (Tables) > > Perhaps Laurent was confused at that moment? You are right

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:35 PM, Kirk Brooks wrote: > I did not hear anyone talk about SQL. On the other hand I didn't hear > anyone say SQL is dead. My takeaway is it's not a priority - if you're > working in 4D use 4D's data engine. I think SQL is viewed as a connectivity > feature, not a design

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 9, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Jim Labos wrote: > Thanks for taking the time to give us this detailed hint at what's coming. > This is fantastic and exciting news! I hope the iOS feature will get > developed to it's max. This has potential to open many areas for us > developers. The general idea

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 9, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Richard Wright wrote: > I’ll be interested in learning how this differs from Views, not necessarily > 4D’s rather simplistic implementation, but something like Oracle’s, along > with their very powerful SQL implementation. Hi Rich, It might be possible in the

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Tom Swenson wrote: > Nice writeup! Makes me sorry that I couldn't fit in time to attend the Summit > this year. > > I'll toss in a bit of history - "object" databases. It was a concept that > kind of flared up back in the 90s but didn't get any market traction. >

4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
I got back from 4D Summit 2018 in Washington DC and thought I’d post a few of my thoughts and comments about this year’s summit. I went to JPR’s advanced class and he made a statement at the end that I think really sums of 4D v17. He said this is the biggest update in the history of 4D.

Re: Temp files in 4D package

2018-03-25 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 25, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Maurice Inzirillo wrote: > Thanks. But shouldn't 4D take care of cleaning out these temp files on its > own? Of course 4D should, but that doesn’t mean that it will. Something called “bugs” or “bad design decisions” lead to things like this happening. :) I would

Re: Multi-Table Query Into JSON?

2018-03-22 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 22, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Keisuke Miyako wrote: > Selection to json is a very simple command with very specific usages. > > it is nothing like selection to array. > > put another way, it is not an important command, you don’t need to know it, > there is nothing you can’t do without it. > >

Re: Test 4D Server using 4D Developer Professional license

2018-03-22 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 22, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Chip Scheide wrote: > As long as you run on the same physical box (or in/on the same VM), you > should be able to run 2 or more copies of Server at the same time. You > will need to run each instance on a different set of ports. > > You are still limited to the to

Re: 4D data on the web - what do you use?

2018-03-14 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Mar 14, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Jody Bevan wrote: >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com >> <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>> wrote: >> >> I guess that explains why you “retired” and moved to that “tropical" plac

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