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2020-11-13 Thread Jaime Solorza
e world stage. That is about it. Congress can >>>> affect us. Presidents not so much. >>>> >>>> We have always had nationalists here. It is part of the culture. Some >>>> call it patriotism. I don’t think it is bad. I am not a globalist. I >>

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2020-11-13 Thread chuck
The older I get, the more shades of gray I see. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 11:47 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. There is (currently) a segment of the population that wants things to be clear cut. Up-down, left-right, north

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2020-11-13 Thread Adam Moffett
To me, socialism is the government taking all or part of the money, not the property, and then giving everyone back what they need. Otto Von Bismark is basically the father of modern, organized public welfare systems.  He was also a firm supporter of the Imperial government of Germany and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-13 Thread Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

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2020-11-13 Thread Robert
is bad.  I am not a globalist.  I support our country and our national interests above other nations.  Part of rooting for the home team.  Being a patriot is a far stretch from dictatorship. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, No

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-13 Thread chuck
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Part of the problem with discussing socialism is inconsistent definitions. There are people saying they are "socialist" who think that just means the government providing public welfare services. The original definition is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-13 Thread Adam Moffett
  Part of rooting for the home team.  Being a patriot is a far stretch from dictatorship. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Sile

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-13 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. For four years all we heard on the nightly news was Russia influence was the only way Trump won.  It was miserable.  Presidents were disliked in the past and the other side would always go after them.  Clinton, Bush, Obama were all attacked

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2020-11-13 Thread Robert
rooting for the home team.  Being a patriot is a far stretch from dictatorship. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

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2020-11-13 Thread justsumname
t;> affect us. Presidents not so much. >>> >>> We have always had nationalists here. It is part of the culture. Some >>> call it patriotism. I don’t think it is bad. I am not a globalist. I >>> support our country and our national interests above other natio

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2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Jaime Solorza" > *To: *"AnimalFar

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2020-11-12 Thread Mike Hammett
t;Jaime Solorza" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:24:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Not proven effective... On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 7:44 AM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: Now I feel like

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
rly but lots of countries fall into the same category. >>>> He embarrassed us on the world stage. That is about it. Congress can >>>> affect us. Presidents not so much. >>>> >>>> We have always had nationalists here. It is part of the culture.

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2020-11-12 Thread Jason McKemie
national interests above other nations. Part >> of rooting for the home team. Being a patriot is a far stretch from >> dictatorship. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>

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2020-11-12 Thread Steve Jones
ident can actually do to harm a country. Not much. He didn’t start >>>> any wars so that is about the most damaging thing he can do. He didn’t act >>>> on the virus properly but lots of countries fall into the same category. >>>> He embarrassed us on the world st

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2020-11-12 Thread Adam Moffett
globalist.  I support our country and our national interests above other nations. Part of rooting for the home team.  Being a patriot is a far stretch from dictatorship. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM *To

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2020-11-11 Thread Steve Jones
ut it. Congress can >>> affect us. Presidents not so much. >>> >>> We have always had nationalists here. It is part of the culture. Some >>> call it patriotism. I don’t think it is bad. I am not a globalist. I >>> support our country and our nat

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2020-11-11 Thread Steve Jones
gt;> us. Presidents not so much. >> >> We have always had nationalists here. It is part of the culture. Some >> call it patriotism. I don’t think it is bad. I am not a globalist. I >> support our country and our national interests above other nations. Part >> of

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2020-11-11 Thread Chuck Macenski
I don’t think it is bad. I am not a globalist. I > support our country and our national interests above other nations. Part > of rooting for the home team. Being a patriot is a far stretch from > dictatorship. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:0

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2020-11-11 Thread Robert
, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The scariest part is how many actually voted for an inept nationalist xenophobic clown ...it portends of bad things ahead. Study history and you will see how this nationalism fervor

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-11 Thread Bill Prince
Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..   I just find it hard to believe that either one of these clowns is the best we can do. Both in their uppe

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2020-11-11 Thread chuck
Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. I’m told some states give their homeless residents one way trips to hawaii, so it’s no longer "their problem". Hawaii hates it though. So now, I read that Hawaii is giving those same homeless one way tickets back.

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2020-11-11 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
guess we would have to help them get passports too... > > From: Lewis Bergman <> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:57 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > And if someone does legally arrive on

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2020-11-11 Thread chuck
an Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Well, I hate to tell you but those cages were built during Obama's time in office. And really, calling them cages is just a bit on the inflamm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
sday, November 11, 2020 9:49 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > Well, I hate to tell you but those cages were built during Obama's time in > office. And really, calling them cages is just a bit on the infl

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2020-11-11 Thread chuck
I am hopeful that Biden restores worker visas. I think anyone that wants a 6 month work visa should be able to get one as long as they can pass a background check. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Well, I hate to tell you but those cages were built during Obama's time in office. And really, calling them cages is just a bit on the inflammatory side. They are detention centers. Technically, you can call anything a cage with a boundary. Unless you are going to ask the CBP to stop doing their

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-11 Thread chuck
hikers... see, I can do rhetoric too! From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 9:25 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. I said Nationalism how nationalism led to Nazism... Think about how many people were complicit

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2020-11-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
I said Nationalism how nationalism led to Nazism... Think about how many people were complicit not calling it out is wrong... children in cages is wrong, separation of families is wrong, bans on Muslims is wrong, pipes through Native American lands is wrong , Righteous Indignation. On

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2020-11-11 Thread chuck
Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. I just find it hard to believe that either one of these clowns is the best we can do. Both in their upper 70's. One cares so little about the office he will say anything. The other, well I am just not sure how much gas he has

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
I just find it hard to believe that either one of these clowns is the best we can do. Both in their upper 70's. One cares so little about the office he will say anything. The other, well I am just not sure how much gas he has in the tank. It would be great if someone honest would run and get

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-11 Thread chuck
nations. Part of rooting for the home team. Being a patriot is a far stretch from dictatorship. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 8:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The scariest part is how many actually voted

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2020-11-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Declaring any large movement today, meaning ones with millions of people in it, can't be compared to Nazis. You need to look back at history. not saying it couldn't eventually work its way to something closer. But it isn't even close. To say it is discounts how horrible Nazis were and what the

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2020-11-11 Thread Adam Moffett
All that said, Jamie, I don't understand why people vote for him either.  Every time I listen to him talk I think he sounds like an idiot. On 11/11/2020 10:16 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: First, I don't think it's as bad as all that.  A lot of voting is more "against the other guy" than voting

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2020-11-11 Thread Adam Moffett
First, I don't think it's as bad as all that.  A lot of voting is more "against the other guy" than voting /for/ someone.  A lot of our press is devoted to demonizing the other guy so that you'll vote against him.  If you believed Joe Biden was a communist, corrupt, etc then maybe you'd rather

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
The scariest part is how many actually voted for an inept nationalist xenophobic clown ...it portends of bad things ahead. Study history and you will see how this nationalism fervor led to Nazi growth in Europe... The proof is overwhelming... Prove me wrong. On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 9:41 PM Steve

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2020-11-11 Thread Darin Steffl
Biden is a moderate politician. He's closer to the middle than trump ever was. Congress better get along with him so they can move us forward. On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 11:15 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > This is a shit show no matter what side you are on. At the end of the day > whoever

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2020-11-10 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. This is a shit show no matter what side you are on.  At the end of the day whoever ends up in the white house will piss off over 70m people and we will be even more divided than we ever were. Someone has to realize we need to be brought back

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2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
I cant take credit on that one Heres some crazy stuff, I'm pretty sure offering up campaign funds for anything other than a campaign is illegal. I told you guys, this is gonna get hilarious. By the time it's all said and done, theyll find 100 percent evidence biden cheated and there will be no

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2020-11-10 Thread Adam Moffett
I might have to write that one down. On 11/10/2020 10:32 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Hard times breed strong men, string men breed good times, good times breed weak men, weak men breed hard times. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
t; be >>>>>> verified by the voter) Obviously these are very quick to process. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election. In >>>>>> addition, t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-10 Thread Adam Moffett
gt; *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. In our

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
lFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > isnt it amazing the difference between a direct quote and enemy media > spin? > > doesnt matter, leftist wingbats dont care, those tools still say trump > called all mexicans rapists, mental

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2020-11-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
d it in a box. That’s how >>>>> I >>>>> voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they would >>>>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-10 Thread Adam Moffett
ures, nothing. *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFM

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2020-11-10 Thread chuck
I wonder, have the Portland riots magically ceased? From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 7:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. isnt it amazing the difference between a direct quote and enemy media spin? doesnt matter

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2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
em through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected as the last step before >>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed it >>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>

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2020-11-10 Thread Adam Moffett
allowed to open the envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing. *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.co

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2020-11-10 Thread Chuck McCown
>> polish. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM wrote: >>>>>> Used to be that former presidents never criticized sitting presidents. >>>>>> >>>

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2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
;> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM wrote: >>>> >>>>> Used to be that former presidents never criticized sitting >>>>> presidents. >>>>> >>>>> That went out the window with Obama/Trump. >&

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2020-11-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
t;>> guess nobody expected anything different in that regard, turds dont polish. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM wrote: >>>> >>>>> Used to be that former presidents never criticiz

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
>>>> >>>> That went out the window with Obama/Trump. >>>> >>>> Now, it will be interesting to see if anyone will give Trump a pulpit >>>> from which to speak. Will he become a fox news feature? Perhaps at Miss >>>>

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2020-11-10 Thread Bill Prince
malFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..  

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2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
gt;>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >>> >>> >>> Hmmm, I forgot he is DJ Trump. Maybe his next career can be as a >>> rapper, he already has the name. >>> >>>

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2020-11-10 Thread Lewis Bergman
t; from which to speak. Will he become a fox news feature? Perhaps at Miss >> America he will pontificate. I am sure he will not be able to resist >> seeking publicity. >> >> *From:* Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:26 PM >> *To:* 'Anima

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2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > > Hmmm, I forgot he is DJ Trump. Maybe his next career can be as a rapper, > he already has the name. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesda

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2020-11-10 Thread chuck
sure he will not be able to resist seeking publicity. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:26 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Hmmm, I forgot he is DJ Trump. Maybe his next career can be as a rapper, he already has

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Hmmm, I forgot he is DJ Trump. Maybe his next career can be as a rapper, he already has the name. From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 2:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. www.loser.com <h

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-10 Thread Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>

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2020-11-10 Thread Steve Jones
t;>>>>>>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to >>>>>>>>> the office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the >>>>>>>>> ballet cart to have the vote count. >>>>>>>>

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2020-11-09 Thread Steve Jones
would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I >>>>>>>> sealed it >>>>>>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All the paper ballots i

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Steve Jones
ied by the voter) Obviously these are very quick to process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election. In >>>>>>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 da

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the >>>>>> election, but it used paper ballots. Basically you filled out the same >>>>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box. That’s >>>>>> how I >>>>&g

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2020-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
ddition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the >>>>>> election, but it used paper ballots. Basically you filled out the same >>>>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box. That’s >>>>>> how I >>&g

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2020-11-09 Thread Robert
2020 9:52 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Chuck Macenski
thought they would >>>>> scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back when we >>>>> used paper ballots for day-of voting. I expected as the last step before >>>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
>>>> leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner. Instead I sealed it >>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were >&g

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2020-11-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
into a scanner. Instead I sealed it >>>> in an envelope and dropped it in a box. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were >>>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something

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2020-11-09 Thread justsumname
ut I don't know how long that is. >>> >>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our >>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) if >>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took 48 &

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2020-11-09 Thread Chuck McCown
n the locked boxes until something like 7am on election day before >>>> they could start processing them. This was apparently also the case in >>>> many battleground states. They weren’t even allowed to open the >>>> envelopes, uncrease the forms, check

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Steve Jones
gt;> uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. >

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2020-11-09 Thread Bill Prince
af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..   In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of the state), they count them

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
gnatures, nothing. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > > > In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the re

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of the state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread chuck
Yeah, Utah is the same way. We know ours was accepted and counted by looking online. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 8:51 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Bill Prince
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..   Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count.  On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com

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2020-11-09 Thread chuck
Yes, some states are doing exactly that. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count. On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I think

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-09 Thread Adam Moffett
*To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The whole punch card voting "system"  was doomed from the beginning. I remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County  30 years ago or so. Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would some

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread chuck
I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go. That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The whole punch card voting

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
ber 8, 2020 12:02 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..   In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. https://www

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread Robert
er 7, 2020 4:46 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
*On Behalf > Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > > > In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a > decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. &

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..   In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread chuck
, 2020 12:08 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona. It’s a Maxwell’s Demon approach. Open the door when it helps me, close the door when it helps the other guy. That’s probably

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2020-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
was robbed. That does not bode well for half the country moving on from this election. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're

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2020-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
..@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread chuck
it was the right thing to do, he pulled us out of Vietnam and ended it. From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 10:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-to-spoil

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2020-11-08 Thread Chuck Macenski
AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > Nixon was intelligent, articulate and knew his shit. He did some positive > things for the USA ...too bad he fucked it up. > Trump is best summed up in one word.. > Inept > &

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2020-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
So it's too early for "Hail! Hail to Dorothy!" and "Ding Dong the witch is dead"? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:14 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. It ain't ov

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2020-11-08 Thread fiberrun
It ain't over until the fat man tweets.       From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Technically it is premature.  Lots of steps and challenges left to go through.  Lots of certifications, then elector

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2020-11-08 Thread chuck
Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Bullshit On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 9:28 PM justsumname wrote: The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't really gotten started yet. Judges don't hold court on the weekends. -- On Sat, Nov 7

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2020-11-08 Thread chuck
. It always ended the debate. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 9:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Nixon was intelligent, articulate and knew his shit. He did some positive things for the USA ...too bad he fucked

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2020-11-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
e cast – Jimmy Stewart, >>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John >>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

2020-11-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
ohn Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John > Caradine, Lee Van Cleef. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf > Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deaf

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2020-11-08 Thread chuck
by SS agents on inauguration day would be highly entertaining. Perhaps they will have to wrestle the football from him. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 9:26 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. If trump and his supporters

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2020-11-08 Thread Darin Steffl
had been taught as an example of how > democracy works. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 8:58 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > > > It would be the King Ko

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2020-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
, 2020 8:58 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. It would be the King Kong of conspiracies to pull off. Getting hundreds of thousands of poll workers to stay quiet and do a coordinated effort in (I think) thousands of local polling places. It blows the mind

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2020-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
On Behalf Of justsumname Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 10:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening

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2020-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..   Andy Devine..   More famous from Jimmy Buffet than from his movies   "An autographed photo of Andy Devine"... On 11/7/20 3:21

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2020-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown
7 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. > > The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't really > gotten started yet. > Judges don't hold court on the weekends. > > -- > > On Sat, No

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