Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Absolutely Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Steve Jones" To: Subject: [AFMUG] Harvey damage Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 10:51 PM I just saw the announcement baicells is replacing all gear for free in affected areas.

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread George Skorup
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Kudos to Patrick and crew. On 8/28/2017 10:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I just saw the announcement baicells is replacing all gear for free in affected areas. I know at the end of the day its marketing, but its still pretty solid thing to do. On Aug 28, 2017 7:59 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Watching fema news conference from 715 this morning Here is where you register your volunteer organization (specifically told to do it in press conference) https://www.nvoad.org Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser"

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
I just saw the announcement baicells is replacing all gear for free in affected areas. I know at the end of the day its marketing, but its still pretty solid thing to do. On Aug 28, 2017 7:59 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > Harvey DIRS FCC report 8/28/17: > -There are

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Broadcast There are 9 radio stations out of service: TX – KJOJ-FM, KKTX, KUNO, KPRC, KKWV, KAYK, KZFM, KKBA and KEYS. KJOJ- - 100,000 watt FM (largest signal you can get) KKTX - 50,000 watt FM (pretty large signal) KUNO - 1000 watt AM station KPRC - 5000 watt AM station KKWV - 8500 watt FM

Re: [AFMUG] Climbing Harnesses/Gear OT?

2017-08-28 Thread George Skorup
We do 50/50 on boots, but provide all the rest. I forget what the guys like for harnesses. I think maybe the light-weight Elk River stuff with seats. Rest of the standard stuff like double pelican hook lanyards, positioning lanyards, etc. We bought a 1k lb AB Chance capstan a couple years

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Harvey DIRS FCC report 8/28/17: -There are 4.7% of the cell sites down in the affected area, up from 4.1% yesterday. -There are at least 189,487 subscribers (up from at least 148,565 yesterday) out of service in the affected area. This includes users who get service from cable system or wireline

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
Kind of hard to move a city with 6.2 million people. But i say the same thing about new orleans, anybody who didnt bring in fill to get above the water should never get a dime On Aug 28, 2017 7:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > just playing devil's advocate but...if i lived in the

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
Ill have to look On Aug 28, 2017 5:23 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > It does show on the AP Side... > > Lower right hand of the dashboard click on the two dots to see the > different screens ... > > > Regards. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
What I was trying to say is that in today's market the VOIP / DECT phones are no longer an expensive item. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Chuck McCown
Or change building codes to make all new construction impervious/resistant to the threat. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 6:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage just playing devil's advocate but...if i lived in the path of an avalanche up here in the

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Sean Heskett
just playing devil's advocate but...if i lived in the path of an avalanche up here in the mountains and my house/neighborhood/city kept getting hit every [N] winter(s) with an avalanche that crushed everything in it's path and the rest of the country kept sending money for me/us to rebuild in the

Re: [AFMUG] Climbing Harnesses/Gear OT?

2017-08-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
I like Elk River harness. I use a variation of Prusik we call pig knot...as long as tension is on pipe or tower section it keeps safe...So with gin pole we clamp middle of tower section with pig knot on top of it. As they hoist section up I get rope to keep it from getting stuck and once at hip

Re: [AFMUG] Climbing Harnesses/Gear OT?

2017-08-28 Thread Sean Heskett
https://www.gmesupply.com/petzl-volt-tower-lt-harness super light weight On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Ben Royer wrote: > Just a sudo on-topic / off topic question. Just curious who all climbs? > And a little reader survey... > > I have a DBI SALA Strata harness,

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/28/17 3:25 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: https://www.voipsupply.com/manufacturer/yealink/dect I believe these would qualify as being pretty affordable ! Those are; I have a Spectralink system.

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
https://www.voipsupply.com/manufacturer/yealink/dect I believe these would qualify as being pretty affordable ! Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-28 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
It does show on the AP Side... Lower right hand of the dashboard click on the two dots to see the different screens ... Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:

Re: [AFMUG] Dumb UBNT speed test question

2017-08-28 Thread Jay Weekley
Possibly. I think they were referring to TCP overhead. James Craig wrote: The UI speedtest should be fairly accurate. Just keep in mind that it is UDP vs TCP and the default is direction is duplex (both Rx and Tx). Perhaps they were thinking PHY rate vs real throughput on older units? On

Re: [AFMUG] Dumb UBNT speed test question

2017-08-28 Thread James Craig
The UI speedtest should be fairly accurate. Just keep in mind that it is UDP vs TCP and the default is direction is duplex (both Rx and Tx). Perhaps they were thinking PHY rate vs real throughput on older units? On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: >

[AFMUG] Climbing Harnesses/Gear OT?

2017-08-28 Thread Ben Royer
Just a sudo on-topic / off topic question. Just curious who all climbs? And a little reader survey... I have a DBI SALA Strata harness, and a Petzl Volt, both have their place, but wondering what the industry likes and why? My guys will be due for new ones soon, as they use the NEX right

[AFMUG] Dumb UBNT speed test question

2017-08-28 Thread Jay Weekley
When performing speed tests on UBNT radios such as a Powerbeam M2 I've been told that the real world throughput is about 55% less. For example, a speed test of 10 Mbit/s will actually be 5.5 on Speedtest.net. Is this still correct on more recent firmware versions?

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Cameron Crum
Yeah...I mean if you ever needed an excuse to leave Houston... On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Tough call any way you cut it...our city has sent nurses and emt help to > Houston, utility trucks en route to San Antonio to stage for action, our >

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
My UniFi network hears over 121 APs on my property. On Aug 28, 2017 1:16 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Obviously on different frequencies. But still, this is in a downtown one > story building. I haven't tried but I bet you can hear 30 AP's from in > there. At least it

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
Wireless DECT phones, which I like, solve a different problem. If you want a desk phone, that is what you want. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:43 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > 1+ on DECT > > > Jaime Solorza > > On Aug 28, 2017 12:42 PM, "Seth Mattinen"

Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
Do those guys have jobs? On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Anyone have a good Dragonwave contact? I need a link engineered and priced > ASAP. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

[AFMUG] Dragonwave

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Anyone have a good Dragonwave contact? I need a link engineered and priced ASAP. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Tyson Burris
I will hit them up Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Daytime # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
They're quite receptive to updates. I don't think they'll accept anything under 10 megs, though, unless it's your highest plan. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Tyson Burris"

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Tyson Burris
Hmm, that site is wrong for our prices and speeds. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Daytime # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax -

Re: [AFMUG] 450M default pins

2017-08-28 Thread Roland Houin
you will need a license to use the sfp port. roland > What are the default pins on a 450m with POE out set on the aux port. It is set to use the SFP but I'm getting nada on that port even with a patch cable and their SFP. It links fine but is sending zero packets. Hopefully with a reset it will

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
1+ on DECT Jaime Solorza On Aug 28, 2017 12:42 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 8/28/17 11:24, Sean Heskett wrote: > >> use DECT for wireless phones >> > > > I love my DECT IP phones, but they're not bargain basement cheap, which is > probably why people want to use wifi. >

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
Tough call any way you cut it...our city has sent nurses and emt help to Houston, utility trucks en route to San Antonio to stage for action, our emergency response center is ready for 1500 evacuees and more if necessary. We did same for Katrina evacuees...many actually stayed... hospitality,

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Even Google Fiber does it wrong. https://broadbandnow.com/Google-Fiber - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 28,

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
would you rather have 6.5 million people on the interstates when they flooded? - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage maybe someone from Texas can explain this to me but it seems

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Cameron Crum
Houston freeways are parking lots on normal days. Big thunderstorms often shut down large sections of highway there, so it's not like this was unexpected. People should have started leaving last Thursday and a good number did. Many thought they were high enough to not be impacted and were wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Sean Heskett
um in todays information age with all the data available and intelligent AI like watson this seems like a "BIG DATA" solvable problem. or we could just not rebuild in dangerous locations i guess ;-) -sean On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/28/17

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
overall, the death toll is relatively low so for for the number of people directly impacted, with 12k national guard coming in it should help to get people move en mass, even though there isnt really anywhere to go. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/28/17 11:42, Steve Jones wrote: I watched the interview with the mayor, basically, they had a massive number of people that would need to move, and the current data set put the hit not on them. the biggest issue was where to send them, since this was going to potentially be anywhere and

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/28/17 11:24, Sean Heskett wrote: use DECT for wireless phones I love my DECT IP phones, but they're not bargain basement cheap, which is probably why people want to use wifi. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
I watched the interview with the mayor, basically, they had a massive number of people that would need to move, and the current data set put the hit not on them. the biggest issue was where to send them, since this was going to potentially be anywhere and everywhere at once. The death toll would

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Sean Heskett
maybe someone from Texas can explain this to me but it seems that the Huston evacuation plan for the storm (or really any natural disaster) was to not evacuate because they can't move 6.5million people out of the city in time for the storm so everyone was supposed to evacuate "in place"...so now

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Sean Heskett
use DECT for wireless phones On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I am installing a VoIP system in an old building. It had CAT5 run at some > point with pretty crappy cable. Out of 29 cables on a punch down I could > only locate 5 jacks that toned,

Re: [AFMUG] 450M default pins

2017-08-28 Thread George Skorup
I don't think there's default plug support on the aux port. Because it's not needed. Same as the 450i. Give it a quick 1-2 second power cycle. That will make the boot loader pause for I think 30 seconds. Open your browser to 169.254.1.1 and you'll see the reboot to defaults option. You might

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
Obviously on different frequencies. But still, this is in a downtown one story building. I haven't tried but I bet you can hear 30 AP's from in there. At least it wouldn't surprise me. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:10 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: > Only if overlapping. I've largely

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
Only if overlapping. I've largely ended 2.4ghz use in my home. On Aug 28, 2017 1:09 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Dedicated APs cause more interference. :-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Dedicated APs cause more interference. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 1:09:07 PM

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
I was leaning to having a dedicated AP for the phones. I would think that would help but still not ideal. If it goes that way I'll give you a shout. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:31 PM Josh Reynolds wrote: > If you decide to do this, shoot me an email. I'm happy to offer some

[AFMUG] 450M default pins

2017-08-28 Thread Carl Peterson
What are the default pins on a 450m with POE out set on the aux port. It is set to use the SFP but I'm getting nada on that port even with a patch cable and their SFP. It links fine but is sending zero packets. Hopefully with a reset it will at least work on the copper port.

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
If you decide to do this, shoot me an email. I'm happy to offer some tips as to how to make this work best on UniFi. Like I said, I *do* run it at home, but no wireless VOIP solution is without it's hiccups. It depends a lot on the demands put on the wireless network, the environment, usage

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
If you do an OTDR on fiber, coax, or anything else that attenuation matters on you often can see ripples. When you zoom in it is spaced at every interval that is tied. Heliax isn't as bad with zip ties, which only last a couple ears anyway, but copper wire 10AWG ties are common and it is easy to

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yea, even when you tell people "I don't recommend this, you likely won't be happy. But you are an adult and can make your own decisions." They come back in 3 weeks whining about how bad whatever it was is and how you promised it would work. If they do happen to remember it they are still mad at

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
It's easy to make them too tight. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:46:36 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Adam Moffett
How? -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/28/2017 12:32:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber? Zip ties can break fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
Don't. It'll work, then it won't. Then it will, then it won't. I guess it depends on how important this is to your reputation vs cost. On Aug 28, 2017 10:53 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Yea, that is my initial thought as well. I am hoping by > >1. being inside >

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Zip ties can break fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:03:35 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Zip

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
If it's armored, it's not likely to cause any issue. On Aug 28, 2017 11:03 AM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Is this appropriate even on a temporary basis? I think it's ATT fiber. >

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha! Jaime Solorza On Aug 28, 2017 10:24 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > zip ties are rarely appropriate, for anything, other than handcuffs in > mass arrests > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > >> eh, better than duck tape or

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
zip ties are rarely appropriate, for anything, other than handcuffs in mass arrests On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > eh, better than duck tape or the giant wad of electrical tape I suppose. > > Mark > > > On 8/28/17 12:03 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > >> Is

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh
eh, better than duck tape or the giant wad of electrical tape I suppose. Mark On 8/28/17 12:03 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: Is this appropriate even on a temporary basis?  I think it's ATT fiber.

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
No political action better than reaction other than over reaction. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 11:11 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Abbot just called out all Texas National Guard!! About 12000 members... > > > Jaime Solorza > > On Aug 28, 2017 8:33 AM, "Cameron Crum"

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Jaime Solorza
Abbot just called out all Texas National Guard!! About 12000 members... Jaime Solorza On Aug 28, 2017 8:33 AM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > The Wisp response to Katrina was awesome thanks to Mac Dearman. I tired to > offer wifi to some of the shelters up here in Fort Worth after

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Jay Weekley
There is a gouge in one of the cables with gel running out as well. Chuck McCown wrote: I guess it depends on how tight. If the strand is deflected it will affect it. -Original Message- From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Chuck McCown
I guess it depends on how tight. If the strand is deflected it will affect it. -Original Message- From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber? Good Idea: No Will it hurt: Not likely. Jim Bouse Owner

Re: [AFMUG] Zip ties on fiber?

2017-08-28 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Good Idea: No Will it hurt: Not likely. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Zip ties on

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yea, that is my initial thought as well. I am hoping by 1. being inside 2. being very close to the AP 3. being lucky? I might be able to make this work. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:45 AM Josh Reynolds wrote: > There is no license with anything Ubiquiti other than

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Cameron Crum
Some billing systems produce all the files you need, with no need for third party services. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:43 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote: > Mike is talking about "deployment data" (represented as covered census > blocks) wouldn't come from billing system.

Re: [AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Josh Reynolds
There is no license with anything Ubiquiti other than their licensed radio offerings, and even that isn't through them. I do run several VoIP endpoints in my home. Some wired, some wireless. I would never recommend wireless to feed VoIP unless there was no other option. It doesn't matter if you

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
holy cow, we just became a nationwide ISP. Im big time right now, Im gonna need to get a huge hat On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > It doesn't matter whose infrastructure it is. Whomever bills the end-user > claims the subscriber. > > > > - > Mike

Re: [AFMUG] 5Ghz thermal fade w/ Corn

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
Its much worse over corn than soybeans, but then again corn is shedding alot more water than beans, close corn seems to be worse than far corn from the subscribers perspective. I tell installers, with 900mhz in particular to be wary of any field path that crosses farmland under 30 feet (10 foot

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
It doesn't matter whose infrastructure it is. Whomever bills the end-user claims the subscriber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To:

Re: [AFMUG] 5Ghz thermal fade w/ Corn

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
I did this with historical weather data when we first got hit with the summertime 900mhz death mornings. matched to the temp/humidity where i could find good weatherstation data On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > Would be interesting to see a graph related

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
reselling a connection is legit for 477 purposes? We do that but i never claimed it since its not our infrastructure. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Bob Telephone Company from Bob, Montana probably doesn't have any > customers in Missouri. That sort of

[AFMUG] AP for VoIP

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
I am installing a VoIP system in an old building. It had CAT5 run at some point with pretty crappy cable. Out of 29 cables on a punch down I could only locate 5 jacks that toned, out of those only 1 passed. By the length it is likely that those other 4 just need a few inches cut and re-terminated.

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Chuck McCown
Playing both sides of this game, I can assure you that your numbers will be challenged by ILECs if you claim turf you don’t actually serve as your claim can cause them to lose money. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

Re: [AFMUG] 5Ghz thermal fade w/ Corn

2017-08-28 Thread Adam Moffett
Right, if it's thermal ducting it's more to do with the weather than the crop. Thinking back now, the thing Ken Hohof was always on about was reflections from the corn. He would get a gradual drop in signal as the corn grew to a certain heightit would last for days, not hours. --

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Jesse DuPont
Mike is talking about "deployment data" (represented as covered census blocks) wouldn't come from billing system. This wouldn't come from a billing system, it would come from something like a towercoverage.com 477 export. Blocks are generally very small. Plat would

Re: [AFMUG] 5Ghz thermal fade w/ Corn

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
It happens to me shooting over a city with very little corn at all. It'll happen anywhere there may be a lack of wind and different layers of air density. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] 5Ghz thermal fade w/ Corn

2017-08-28 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
would this still be happening if i was shooting over a bare field with no vegetation or is this a corn related/exagerated effect? On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > Would be interesting to see a graph related to temperature and humidity vs > signal

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Cameron Crum
The Wisp response to Katrina was awesome thanks to Mac Dearman. I tired to offer wifi to some of the shelters up here in Fort Worth after that and it just turned into a bureaucratic nightmare and nothing ever got done. Nobody seemed to know who was in charge of communications. The shelters in some

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Bob Telephone Company from Bob, Montana probably doesn't have any customers in Missouri. That sort of thing. As Cameron suggested, some is from billing address vs. installation address. Some is geocoding errors. Some is just crappy systems. Some might actually be that they are selling someone

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe they resell something in that other location. If they're using a system (like Plat) which generates covered blocks based on where your customers are, then something you resell in another area would show up in the report. I'm wondering what the opinion is on partially covered blocks

Re: [AFMUG] 5Ghz thermal fade w/ Corn

2017-08-28 Thread Cameron Crum
Would be interesting to see a graph related to temperature and humidity vs signal strength to see if there is some ducting, or even temp probes at different elevations during the event Also, how does the corn plant itself behave during the day? Do the leaves lift or sag or stay the same? Corn

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
Under report and you dont get in trouble, thats my motto. Not really, my motto is "id eat a baby if there was bacon on it" On Aug 28, 2017 8:36 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > On your Federal Communications Commission Form 477, make sure your stated > coverage is at least somewhat

[AFMUG] FCC Form 477

2017-08-28 Thread Mike Hammett
On your Federal Communications Commission Form 477, make sure your stated coverage is at least somewhat representative of what you actually cover. In doing some market research, I keep finding ISPs (not just WISPs) obviously based out of one or two towns in one state, but have claimed some

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
Was reading at is setting up temporary cell towers to bring up basic outward commimications and limited data. Its filtering out streaming and video. Of course when the politics takes things over, there will be people who try suing for it not being "open internet' On Aug 28, 2017 7:37 AM, "Lewis

Re: [AFMUG] 5Ghz thermal fade w/ Corn

2017-08-28 Thread Adam Moffett
Ken said he would (where possible) position the antenna so the center of the path was passing over a tree. I guess if the issue was destructive reflections off the corn then the tree attenuates those reflections? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Harvey damage

2017-08-28 Thread Lewis Bergman
I would imagine it would keep getting worse as they run out of fuel. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:34 AM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Thanks for posting these > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone > > - Reply message - > From: "Kurt Fankhauser"