om:*Chuck August-McDowell
*Sent:* Friday, May 14, 2021 11:42 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [PSES] EU DoC on Thumb Drive?
Seconding Brian’s motion to allow the QR Code as an approved method to
provide DoC information.
We recently Include Symbol ISO 7000-3500 "Electronic
d on paper and
which must accompany the equipment.
Stay safe, and best regards,
Rich
From: Chuck August-McDowell
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 11:42 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EU DoC on Thumb Drive?
Seconding Brian’s motion to allow the QR Code as a
:7000:3500
Respectfully,
Chuck August-McDowell
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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:51 AM
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From: Brian Ceresney
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:40 AM
To: Pete Perkins ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] EU DoC on Thumb Drive?
Hello All,
Apologies for “hijacking the thread”, but we’ve been considering the
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A number of other Directives such as RED and Machinery also require DoC to be
provided with equipment
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From: Charlie Blackham
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Carl
A number of other Directives such a
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From: Carl Newton
Sent: 13 May 2021 20:36
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] EU DoC on Thumb Drive?
Group,
I've not been able to find anything that suggests that the EU DoC can be
provided with the product
Group,
I've not been able to find anything that suggests that the EU DoC can be
provided with the product electronically for a medical device. I sent
an inquiry to the commission and received no response. The MDD and MDR
require that the DoC is shipped with each product and I have
I think this all begs the question, has anyone experienced any problems with
their EU DOC by not providing the Standard's Title? If so, what was the
objection and what was necessary to resolve it?
The official titles of directives and standards are often way too long and
often more confusing
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
I think this all begs the question, has anyone experienced any problems with
their EU DOC by not providing the Standard's Title? If so, what was the
objection and what was necessary to resolve it?
The official
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-Original Message-
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:10 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
I think this all begs the question, has
with a
sledgehammer.
Gary
-Original Message-
From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 6:10 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
I think this all begs the question
...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Kunde, Brian
Sent: 19 November 2012 14:10
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
I think this all begs the question, has anyone experienced any problems with
their EU DOC by not providing the Standard's Title? If so
In message
d250d01e39356a4e9cc3b4b459d6655094d92...@ms-cda-01.advanced-input.com,
dated Mon, 19 Nov 2012, McInturff, Gary gary.mcintu...@esterline.com
writes:
I'm also just curious what countries don't use Arabic numerals?
Almost all countries that are not Arabic, in fact! 'Our' numerals
In message
867f4b6a1672e541a94676d556793acd1b66ce1...@mopesmbx01.eu.thmulti.com,
dated Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Carpentier Kristiaan
kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com writes:
Some countries require in their national transposition that the EU DoC
is issued in the local language. Although most
867f4b6a1672e541a94676d556793acd1b66ce1...@mopesmbx01.eu.thmulti.com, dated
Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Carpentier Kristiaan kristiaan.carpent...@technicolor.com
writes:
Some countries require in their national transposition that the EU DoC is
issued in the local language. Although most are still in draft: France
In message b186fb02-da44-4d60-969a-ae6ee3015...@conformance.co.uk,
dated Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk
writes:
I guess the Commissiion's logic is that the instructions will need to
be translated into the same language(s) so it's not a significant
additional
Nick,
My country, Belgium, has 3 official national languages, Dutch, French and
German. The most recent draft of the Belgian transposition proposal of the RoHS
Directive states now that the EU DoC should be drawn up in a language easily
understandable by authorities. While the authorities have
Telecommunication
Denmark
-Original Message-
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carpentier
Kristiaan
Sent: 18. november 2012 14:13
To: Nick Williams; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
Nick,
My country
Hello,
I have my personal opion but different experiences with market surveillance
authorities with respect to the following question:
Decision 768/2008/EC (Annex III) or all existing new approach directives
specifies the content of an EU-DoC as follows.
References to the relevant
In message 001901cdc4ff$a4da0ab0$ee8e2010$@globalnorm.de, dated Sat,
17 Nov 2012, Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de writes:
I have my personal opion but different experiences with market
surveillance authorities with respect to the following question:
Is there any difficulty in
Betreff: Re: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
In message 001901cdc4ff$a4da0ab0$ee8e2010$@globalnorm.de, dated Sat,
17 Nov 2012, Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de writes:
I have my personal opion but different experiences with market
surveillance authorities with respect
In message 002201cdc508$a3e81a80$ebb84f80$@globalnorm.de, dated Sat,
17 Nov 2012, Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de writes:
Comments from some manufacturers: too much work (costs time and
money)...
They are just being stupid. The cost and time are utterly trivial. How
much more
Gesendet: Samstag, 17. November 2012 22:41
An: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Betreff: Re: AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
In message 002201cdc508$a3e81a80$ebb84f80$@globalnorm.de, dated Sat,
17 Nov 2012, Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de writes:
Comments from some
: zaterdag 17 november 2012 22:54
Aan: 'John Woodgate'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Onderwerp: AW: AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title
I agree.
Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer
Managing Director
Regulatory Affairs Specialist
Globalnorm GmbH
Kurfürstenstr. 112
10787 Berlin
Phone
Michael,
You may also know that the RoHS Recast Directive 2011/65/EU is the first
Directive using the NLF, coming into force in Jan. 2013.
Some countries require in their national transposition that the EU DoC is
issued in the local language. Although most are still in draft: France in
French
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140B07@ZEUS.cetest.local,
dated Sat, 17 Nov 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl writes:
If the title and number were not linked together one-on-one, Yes, I
would suggest adding the title. But as they are linked, I
that you must follow.
John
From: Robert Heller [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com]
Sent: 12 October 2010 10:32
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Updating EU DoC
Bear in mind that under the latest EMC Directive, the DoC must contain dated
Subject: Re: [PSES] Updating EU DoC
Bear in mind that under the latest EMC Directive, the DoC must contain dated
references (i.e., the standards tested to and their dates)(see note). If the
dates of the standards change then the DoC must be updated.
Note: Reference Directive 2004/108/EC, Annex IV
: Updating EU DoC
Sent by:
emc-p...@ieee.org
Power is control and control is power and once someone has the power
it is difficult for them to give it up.
I fought like crazy to not have our DOCs controlled through our
Documentation Control department to avoid many of the problems you
: Dienstag, 12. Oktober 2010 05:50
An: brian_ku...@lecotc.com; emc-p...@ieee.org
Betreff: Re: Updating EU DoC
Thank you all for your positive feedback.
The changes that we make is not component related, but it is mainly related to
change in standards. For example, EN60950-1 1st edition to 2nd
we need to reflect these in the new DoC. How would you
handle such cases?
Thanks
Peter
-Original Message-
From: Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com
To: emc-pstc emc-p...@ieee.org
Sent: Mon, Oct 11, 2010 10:51 am
Subject: RE: Updating EU DoC
Power is control and control is power
[mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of
peterh...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 11:38 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Updating EU DoC
Hello group,
I am looking to see how you folks generate and update your EU DOC. We use the
typical MS Word template and every time there is a need
, please email me
separately. There are a few places available.
Best Regards,
John
From: peterh...@aol.com [mailto:peterh...@aol.com]
Sent: 11 October 2010 16:38
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] Updating EU DoC
Hello group,
I am looking to see how you folks
Hello group,
I am looking to see how you folks generate and update your EU DOC. We use the
typical MS Word template and every time there is a need for an update, we
update this document and have to go through ECO (Engineering Change Order)
since it is a controlled document and I found
Birkmann
Grace Lin graceli...@gmail.com
Gesendet von: emc-p...@ieee.org
20.05.2008 17:44 An
emc-p...@ieee.org
Kopie
Thema
EU DoC on 2.4GHz TX Modules
Dear Members,
Is there any EU rule specified reqirements for a transmitter module? My
questions are:
1). Does CE mark
Grace
1) Yes
2) RTTE Directive and standards applied
Peter
Grace Lin graceli...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Members,
Is there any EU rule specified reqirements for a transmitter module? My
questions are:
1). Does CE mark apply to a transmitter module?
Dear Members,
Is there any EU rule specified reqirements for a transmitter module? My
questions are:
1). Does CE mark apply to a transmitter module?
2). If yes from 1), does a DoC need to include Low Voltage Directive and EMC
Directive?
Thank you and look forward to hear from you.
Best
Greetings!
For antenna itself (shipping separately and can work with different model of
products), is there any need for an EU DoC?
Please reference Interpretation of The
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/rtte/interp.htm Directive 1999/5/EC at Europa
while paying particular attention
11, 2007 11:52 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: EU DoC for Antennas
In message
2a93eb060712110730w1f0425c7u5d068e4249cf6...@mail.gmail.com, dated
Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Grace Lin graceli...@gmail.com writes:
Does a manufacturer need to have an EU Declaration of Conformity for
antennas which
In message
8b3bf7a02b910640ab146a919ab3659404c5c...@exsvl03.hq.netapp.com, dated
Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Kim, Ben ben@netapp.com writes:
For some intentional radiators, FCC doesn't allow to use popular
connector/jack for antenna. Please check whether your products are
regulated under FCC Part
...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: EU DoC for Antennas
In message
2a93eb060712110730w1f0425c7u5d068e4249cf6...@mail.gmail.com, dated Tue, 11
Dec 2007, Grace Lin graceli...@gmail.com writes:
Does a manufacturer need to have an EU Declaration of Conformity for
antennas which work with hand-held remote controllers
no electronic circuit. A RF device typically is certified
with certain models of antennas. For antenna itself (shipping
separately and can work with different model of products), is there any
need for an EU DoC?
I'm not entirely sure what the RTTE Directive requires, but I can't see
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:52 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: EU DoC for Antennas
In message
2a93eb060712110730w1f0425c7u5d068e4249cf6...@mail.gmail.com, dated Tue, 11
Dec 2007, Grace Lin graceli
no electronic circuit. A RF device typically is certified
with certain models of antennas. For antenna itself (shipping
separately and can work with different model of products), is there any
need for an EU DoC?
I'm not entirely sure what the RTTE Directive requires, but I can't see
that either the LVD
and can work with different
model of products), is there any need for an EU DoC?
Is BNC connector (popular connector) a problem?
Thank you and look forward to hear from you.
Best regards,
Grace
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In response to John's comment/question, the answer could well be that the
Commission and it's national enforcing authorities do not want to be faced
with the possibility of having chase 2(or even 3 or more under a multiple
branding situation) companies over a non-compliance/safety situation.
In a message dated 11/8/02 7:56:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
chris_al...@eur.3com.com writes:
Company B should issue the DoC. But to show due diligence they should
obtain a
DoC (and copies of test reports) from Company A.
That makes two DoC's for one product. If company A issues a
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From: Chris Allen [mailto:chris_al...@eur.3com.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:54 PM
To: John Woodgate
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: EU DoC - ATEX Examples
I
: EU DoC
Company B should raise a DoC to sell the item under it's own brand name.
However, company B should obtain a DoC issued by company A for it's own
good.
Chris.
richwo...@tycoint.com on 06/11/2002 18:22:08
Please respond to richwo...@tycoint.com
Sent by: richwo...@tycoint.com
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote (in
BFE68AB0084CD311B4FB00508B014C8703CF9CD3@MERCURY) about 'EU DoC - ATEX
Examples' on Fri, 8 Nov 2002:
In response to John's comment/question, the answer could well be that the
Commission and it's national enforcing authorities do
To: John Allen
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: EU DoC
...but for an alternative view, Regulation 40 (2) of the UK's The
Electromagnetic Compatibility Regulations 1992 (SI 1992:2372) says:
An EC declaration of conformity to which this regulation applies shall-
(a) be in English
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-Original Message-
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 07 November 2002 20:37
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: EU DoC - ATEX Examples
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen
I read in !emc-pstc that Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk
wrote (in v04220803b9f0904184ca@[192.168.1.50]) about 'EU DoC' on Thu,
7 Nov 2002:
...but for an alternative view, Regulation 40 (2) of the UK's The
Electromagnetic Compatibility Regulations 1992 (SI 1992:2372) says:
An EC
...but for an alternative view, Regulation 40 (2) of the UK's The
Electromagnetic Compatibility Regulations 1992 (SI 1992:2372) says:
An EC declaration of conformity to which this regulation applies shall-
(a) be in English;
(b) give the name and address-
(i) of the responsible person;
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote (in
BFE68AB0084CD311B4FB00508B014C8703CF9CD2@MERCURY) about 'EU DoC -
ATEX Examples' on Thu, 7 Nov 2002:
The EC declaration of conformity and the application of the CE marking may
be effected either by the manufacturer or his
: EU DoC
Company B should raise a DoC to sell the item under it's own brand name.
However, company B should obtain a DoC issued by company A for it's own
good.
Chris.
richwo...@tycoint.com on 06/11/2002 18:22:08
Please respond to richwo...@tycoint.com
Sent by: richwo...@tycoint.com
Greg
I think your statement needs some clarification.
Even if it is produced by Company A, the DoC must clearly state the name and
model number of the Company B which sells the product in question in the EU,
so that the document is clearly and specifically associated with that
product as sold in
In a message dated 11/6/02 4:42:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, gui...@cae.com
writes:
For the European law, company B is considered as manufacturer and shall
issue the DoC. No point company A issues its own DoC.
I don't think that's entirely correct. I think it depends on the
relationship
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From: soundsu...@aol.com
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: EU DoC
Company A builds a device for company B which sells the device in the
EU
under their own brand name
.
Montreal, CANADA
-Original Message-
From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:22 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: EU DoC
Company A builds a device for company B which sells the device in the EU
under their own brand name
I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8
4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A0467594A@flbocexu05) about 'EU DoC' on Wed, 6 Nov
2002:
Company A builds a device for company B which sells the device in the EU
under their own brand name. The device is subject to a Declaration
Rich,
Since company B puts the device into service under their own brand name,
they are the only ones that need to hold the DoC.]
Best Regards,
Peter Merguerian
-Original Message-
From: richwo...@tycoint.com
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Sent: 11/6/02 8:22 PM
Subject: EU DoC
Company A builds a device for company B which sells the device in the EU
under their own brand name. The device is subject to a Declaration of
Conformity, and both companies are located within the EU. Must both
companies issue a Declaration?
No. A declaration from either company will suffice.
Company A builds a device for company B which sells the device in the EU
under their own brand name. The device is subject to a Declaration of
Conformity, and both companies are located within the EU. Must both
companies issue a Declaration?
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco
...@sensormatic.com]
Sent: 19 October 2000 15:01
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: EU DoC
EN 45014:1998 specifies the General criteria for supplier's declaration
of
conformity. Concerning the identification of standards, the document
says
the DoC shall contain the referenced
EN 45014:1998 specifies the General criteria for supplier's declaration of
conformity. Concerning the identification of standards, the document says
the DoC shall contain the referenced normative documents in a precise,
complete and clearly defined way . . . The example of a DoC in Annex A
Phil Ford wrote:
Jim Nadolny wrote
I was told that the responsible person must be a resident of the EU.
A company in the States could not self certify and place the CE mark on
equipment with only the head of quality signature, assuming the head
of quality lives in Anytown USA. I
Horst Dierich wrote:
Sorry Phil,
but I have learned in a seminar for Product Safety at the Leuven University in
Belgium by some expert Professors for European Rights that the responsible
company
or person must be a resident of one of the EU member states. This is stated
by the
term
Jim Nadolny wrote
I was
told
that the responsible person must be a resident of the EU. A company in
the
States could not self certify and place the CE mark on equipment with
only the head of quality signature, assuming the head of quality lives
in
Anytown USA. I also heard that less
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