mmer 2018. Hmmm, may finally
>> be able to take the trip from Ontario to NS in our 2017 Leaf this year.
>>
>> Wind power continues to grow in NS (and the winds seem to be getting
>> stronger in recent years), and Bay of Fundy tidal remains to be tapped in a
>> signif
It is fair and well deserved criticism for the utility I am subject to. We
do not have many plug ins here (very little Tesla presence, and no fast
chargers I have seen). Most solar is utility scale -Duke has successfully
squelched residential solar so far. No third party sales are allowed.
They ha
ing
> stronger in recent years), and Bay of Fundy tidal remains to be tapped in a
> significant way.
>
> Darryl McMahon
>
> On 1/3/2018 10:38 AM, ev-requ...@lists.evdl.org wrote:
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:38:30 -0400
>> From: Dan Baker
>> T
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> Cc: "Dan Baker"
> Sent: 03-Jan-18 7:38:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Good News: EVs Are Not Crashing the Grid
>
> So we have an interesting conundrum in my province (Nova Scotia). NS
>> decided to concentrate their effort
Tom,
It was during the summer, which certainly exascerbated the situation. But that
was planned for.
(And it wasn't EVSE's. At that time, the only EVs out there were the RAV4-EVs)
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> On Jan 3, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Thos True via EV wrote:
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> Mark,
>
> Just curious what tim
I'm no fan of the utilities, but that's not a fair criticism. The change and
uptake of the technology was unexpected and quick, and could not have been
predicted when the infrastructure was built.
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> On Jan 2, 2018, at 5:17 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
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> " Our City Co
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Dubious or not, our local infrastructure couldn't handle the change in
technology coupled with numbers of units in each household. Try telling those
who suffered frequent outages that they were imagining it.
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> On Jan 2,
Mark,
Just curious what time of year the outages have been occurring at. If it is
during the summer, I would expect that the cause has more to do with a
large use of hvac units, not televisions or evse's. If during winter, then
it probably has to do with unexpected increase in heating demands. How
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So we have an interesting conundrum in my province (Nova Scotia). NS
decided to concentrate their efforts on saving energy in
Dubious or not, our local infrastructure couldn't handle the change in
technology coupled with numbers of units in each household. Try telling those
who suffered frequent outages that they were imagining it.
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> On Jan 2, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Steve Condie via EV wrote:
>
> This
I'm in SCE territory, too.
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> On Jan 2, 2018, at 8:52 AM, jim--- via EV wrote:
>
>
> Mark Abramowitz said (in part):
>> There have been *serious* problems as new technologies have drawn from the
>> grid and increased useage.
>
>> As plasma and other big screen TVs got big,
From: "Dan Baker via EV"
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Cc: "Dan Baker"
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So we have an interesting conundrum in my province (Nova Scotia). NS
decided to concentrate their
So we have an interesting conundrum in my province (Nova Scotia). NS
decided to concentrate their efforts on saving energy instead of cleaning
it up first. This makes sense as the most efficient watt is the watt that
was never used which I agree with. They created an organization called
Efficien
What city do you live in?
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> On Jan 2, 2018, at 7:17 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
>
> " Our City Council had to really squeeze the utility to get capacity
> increased to handle the loads."
>
> You might say that the electric utilities are crashing the grid by not
> recogni
Steve Condie via EV wrote:
This statement, as written, is dubious. All flat screen TV's except plasma
use less electricity than the older CRT sets did - a 50" LED set uses less
electricity than a 30" CRT.
It's difficult to generalize like that. An ancient all-tube TV used
around 200-300 watts
This statement, as written, is dubious. All flat screen TV's except plasma
use less electricity than the older CRT sets did - a 50" LED set uses less
electricity than a 30" CRT. Plasma is comparable to CRT, but plasma TVs
never really had a lot of market share, even in their brief heyday. What's
On 2 Jan 2018 at 9:01, Thos True via EV wrote:
> Doing this without drawing undue attention is generally in their best
> interest, as most people typically don't pay any attention until it
> disrupts their plans with an unexpected failure.
>
Except when you have an anti-EV agenda, and want to b
On 2 Jan 2018 at 8:17, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> You might say that the electric utilities are crashing the grid by not
> recognizing the need to respond to change.
We saw how that kind of manipulation worked out for Enron ...
David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator
= = = = = = = =
I have been a commercial electrician for over 20 years now, and have been
around several power sub stations. One thing that you quickly realize at
these sites is a stringent maintenance schedule, which typically recognizes
and implements the most efficient and proactive upgrades available. Maximum
Mark Abramowitz said (in part):
> There have been *serious* problems as new technologies have drawn from the
> grid and increased useage.
> As plasma and other big screen TVs got big, various parts of my city had
> serious issues with power outages, as the system wasn't designed for those
> lo
" Our City Council had to really squeeze the utility to get capacity
increased to handle the loads."
You might say that the electric utilities are crashing the grid by not
recognizing the need to respond to change. EV use will grow, but not too
quickly - in the present when the electric grid shou
You paint too broad a brush.
There have been *serious* problems as new technologies have drawn from the grid
and increased useage.
As plasma and other big screen TVs got big, various parts of my city had
serious issues with power outages, as the system wasn't designed for those
loads. And thes
I agree with Tom. As EV are slowly adopted, the grid will find ways to
adapt. Always will and always has.
My state electric utility has asked customers to volunteer (with a nice
cash incentive) to put "black boxes" on their air conditioning loads and
electric water heaters.
The boxes turn off
Peri & All,
I recall addressing this fear about a decade ago when it the fear was being
pushed by mainstream media.
The reality is no different than events that have occurred many times since
the inception of the electrical grid. It is interesting that the utilities
seem to do their best to avoid
non-peak
> hours. this can also be mitigated by having battery backups on houses that
> are charged during off-peak hours.
>
>
> From: Peri Hartman via EV
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> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:28 AM
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I think this article raises a good question, though I don't really think
it answers it. Currently, yes, the grid isn't sig
I think this article raises a good question, though I don't really think
it answers it. Currently, yes, the grid isn't significantly impacted.
But what about if we had 100% EVs. What about local and long haul
trucking? What about other ICE powered equipment, e.g. earth movers,
etc.? What about
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