On 13 Feb 2013, at 19:23, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Then why can't a one dimensional Turing machine do geometry,
It can solve geometry problems,
Yes.
but it can't generate geometric forms.
Can you generate geometric forms? Your
On 13 Feb 2013, at 20:36, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2013 7:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Experiences cannot be duplicated literally, because I suspect that
unique is the only thing that experiences can literally be.
I agree with this, in the sense that this follows also from
On 13 Feb 2013, at 20:44, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:46:23 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 17:35, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Wouldn’t Simulated Intelligence be a more appropriate term than
Artificial Intelligence?
A better term would be
On 13 Feb 2013, at 20:46, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 03:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/12/2013 5:28 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:05:37AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote:
When we talk about a Bp, relating to consciousness
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:38:21 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
Whether the
intelligence has the same associated consciousness or not is a matter
for debate, but not the intelligence itself.
On 13 Feb 2013, at 21:28, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:56:05 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
On 12 Feb 2013, at 20:05, Craig Weinberg wrote:
When we talk about a Bp, relating to consciousness is that we are
making an assumption about what a proposition is.
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/13/2013 2:46 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 03:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/12/2013 5:28 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:05:37AM -0800, Craig Weinberg wrote:
When
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:40, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:11:32 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King
wrote:
On 2/13/2013 2:58 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:35 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Wouldn�t Simulated Intelligence be a more appropriate term than
Artificial
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:51, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/13/2013 5:40 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
[SPK wrote} What difference that makes a difference does that make
in the grand scheme of things? The point is that we cannot 'prove'
that we are not in a gigantic simulation. Yeah, we cannot prove
Intuitive Understanding Of Euler’s Formula
http://betterexplained.com/articles/intuitive-understanding-of-eulers-formula/#comment-190704
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On Feb 14, 8:48 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net
wrote:
Euler's Equation and the Reality of Nature.
=.
Mr. Dexter Sinister
On 2/14/2013 10:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/13/2013 2:46 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 03:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/12/2013 5:28 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at
On 2/14/2013 10:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:51, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/13/2013 5:40 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
[SPK wrote} What difference that makes a difference does that
make in the grand scheme of things? The point is that we cannot
'prove' that we
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:37, Stephen P. King wrote, to Craig Weinberg
Baudrillard is not talking about consciousness in particular, only
the sum of whatever is in the original which is not accessible in
the copy. His phrase 'profound reality' is apt though. If you don't
experience a profound
On 14 Feb 2013, at 08:48, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Euler's Equation and the Reality of Nature.
=.
Mr. Dexter Sinister wrote:
‘ I understand Euler's Identity,
and I know what it means, and I know how to prove it,
there's nothing particularly mystical about it,
it just demonstrates that
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:39 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
So far, nobody has been able to figure out a learning algorithm as
generic as the one our brains contains.
The developers of Watson have come very close
On 14 Feb 2013, at 17:01, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 10:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/13/2013 2:46 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:04 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 03:03, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/12/2013 5:28
On 14 Feb 2013, at 17:02, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 10:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:51, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/13/2013 5:40 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
[SPK wrote} What difference that makes a difference does that
make in the grand scheme of things? The
On 2/14/2013 3:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 20:36, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2013 7:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Experiences cannot be duplicated literally, because I suspect that unique is the only
thing that experiences can literally be.
I agree with this, in the sense
On 2/14/2013 11:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2013, at 23:37, Stephen P. King wrote, to Craig Weinberg
Baudrillard is not talking about consciousness in particular, only
the sum of whatever is in the original which is not accessible in
the copy. His phrase 'profound reality' is apt
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
there aren't as many brain surgeon-level fields that require maniacal
focus for competence as
people seem to think.
I would maintain that for the last 200 years every major advance in science
or mathematics has come from
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:09 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
[SPK wrote: ]I like the idea of a Matrix universe exactly for that
reason; it takes resources to 'run' it. No free lunch, even for universes!!!
You can still
On 2/14/2013 5:45 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King
wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:09 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
[SPK wrote: ]I like the idea of a Matrix universe exactly for
that reason; it takes resources to 'run'
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:03:51 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 5:45 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King
wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:09 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
[SPK wrote: ]I like the idea of a
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you're conflating intelligence with consciousness.
Funny, someone else accused me of the same thing already today:
You've conflating 'real intelligence' with conscious experience.
Real or literal
On 2/14/2013 6:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I don't think there are any models or systems at all. Not physically.
There are only presentations and re-presentations. Habits and inertia.
I agree, they cannot be physical at all, they are representations
not things-in-themselves (objects).
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:52:21 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 6:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I don't think there are any models or systems at all. Not physically.
There are only presentations and re-presentations. Habits and inertia.
I agree, they cannot
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:45:27 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
I think you're conflating intelligence with consciousness.
Funny, someone else accused me of the same thing already today:
On 2/14/2013 6:45 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
I think you're conflating intelligence with consciousness.
Funny, someone else accused me of the same thing already today:
You've conflating 'real intelligence' with
On 2/14/2013 9:43 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:52:21 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 6:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I don't think there are any models or systems at all. Not
physically.
There are only presentations and
Dear Bruno,
I would like to know what 'doxastic models of consciousness' means, as well
as what means S4Grz - I know Craig was the one who originally used the
term 'doxastic models' but you seemed to know right away what that meant,
so I'd like to know from your perspective what it means;
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:17:08 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 9:43 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:52:21 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 6:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
I don't think there are any models or
The learned men confuse the mathematical tools with the
physical reality and therefore we have math-physical fairy-tales.
=.
On Feb 14, 5:39 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 14 Feb 2013, at 08:48, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
Euler's Equation and the Reality of Nature.
On 2/14/2013 11:34 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:17:08 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King
wrote:
On 2/14/2013 9:43 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:52:21 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul
King wrote:
On 2/14/2013 6:08 PM, Craig
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:15:53 PM UTC-5, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:05:39 PM UTC-5, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Hi Craig,
Thank you for your very well considered point of view on my original
post. I have some interjections that I would enjoy hearing
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
* *Wouldn’t Simulated Intelligence be a more appropriate term than
Artificial Intelligence?
Yes that euphemism could have advantages, it might make the last human
being feel a little better about himself just before the Jupiter
On 2/15/2013 12:05 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Sure, but they are ontological conjugates, i.e. you can be chosen
locally without having the ability to make choices yourself
(theoretically anyways), but you can't be chosen without the
presence of some choosing agency in the
On 2/15/2013 12:23 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com
mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
* *Wouldn’t Simulated Intelligence be a more appropriate term
than Artificial Intelligence?
Yes that euphemism could have advantages, it might make
On 2/15/2013 12:38 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 2/15/2013 12:05 AM, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
Sure, but they are ontological conjugates, i.e. you can be chosen
locally without having the ability to make choices yourself
(theoretically anyways), but you can't be chosen without the
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