Will we be around in 100 years? That is an open question. Some will point to
the fact that we did not blow ourselves up during the cold war, and we
didn't, but times change and the planetary resource equations have also
changes, and dramatically so in some cases. During the cold war both the
On 29 Oct 2013, at 23:26, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/29/2013 7:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Also with comp, consciousness is NOT a product of the mind. that's
still too much an aristotelian way to express the identity
thesis. Consciousness is not physical, it is the mental state of
person
On 30 Oct 2013, at 00:17, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
To be sure, I don't like the idea of Übermensch.
At least we know there is no Übermachine.
There is just a universal baby god (the universal person/machine)
But this
On 30 Oct 2013, at 02:29, LizR wrote:
On 30 October 2013 14:26, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:40:52 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote:
On 30 October 2013 13:24, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:52:12 PM UTC-4, Liz R
On 30 Oct 2013, at 03:17, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno, Craig and Learned discussion partners:
it is hard even to read-in into the endless back-and-forth you
exude. At least for me - pretending that I still retain may
subjectivity (don't misunderstand: I deny anything 'objective' if
not
On 30 Oct 2013, at 06:07, Craig Weinberg wrote:
A Quora answer to the following question. Nothing new for me here
probably, but It's maybe organized in a more concise way.
Philosophy: If human beings are nothing more than matter, why are
you conscious as yourself?
The implication of
On 30 Oct 2013, at 08:32, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Bruno ~ I believe Quantum loop gravity depends on a fine grain
structure existing in spacetime.
Yes. I agree. I find this natural with GR and QM, but comp imposes
some continuum, and if it is given by space, that would simplify the
On 30 Oct 2013, at 07:03, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:25 PM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi Jason (again)
in your response to Brent:
Personally I believe no theory that aims to attach persons to one
psychological or physiological continuity can be
On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:05, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got
horribly
distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of
On 30 Oct 2013, at 17:08, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 31 October 2013 16:46, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:53:17 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote:
On 31 October 2013 14:46, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:00:58 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote:
This is one of the big
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, by me, although for an off-topic subject, it is interesting how
frequently it comes up.
Politics is the blue cheese of debate, it overwhelms all other flavours :)
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:50:46 PM
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Actually the ESA observations confirmed the prior Fermi Telescope
observations that spacetime is smooth at and beyond the Planck scale
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:54 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 30 Oct 2013, at 08:32, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Bruno ~ I believe Quantum loop
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
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On the subject of completely fucked up :
In December 2012, a pink-haired complex systems researcher named Brad
Werner made his way through the throng of 24,000 earth and space scientists
Hi Dr.d
Although he called it inherited primordial language, Chomsky proposed what I
would instead
call platonic language structures in view of the philosophies of Plato, Kant
and Leibniz, this
apparent in view of the rapidity at which language can be learned and
communicated.
Chinese
I think a solar flare will end it first
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there's a strong chance climate change will end technological
civilization, but I also think the situation is not hopeless, there are
reasonably plausible scenarios I can
On 30 Oct 2013, at 18:21, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/10/30 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Bruno asked me Do you think that you die in a self-duplication
experience? and I said that depends on what the
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this entire matter could be clarified if you could reformulate
the following question in such a way that a simple yes or no answer can be
given:
Do you die if two exact copies of Quentin Anciaux in
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
I think this entire matter could be clarified if you could reformulate
the following question in such a way that a simple yes or no answer can be
given:
Do you die if
2013/10/31 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/31/2013 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I believe there's an important aspect of this type of discussion that
is rarely considered. This sort of thing takes almost a religious tone
where we are supposed to feel guilty. I'm very suspicious of this
On 10/31/2013 10:18 AM, John Clark wrote:
what is asked is the probability to see moscow, likewise when you measure
the spin
of the electron, the question is the probability you measure spin up
As I said before there is a profound difference between the two. After Everett's thought
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
this distracts from the question asked, which concerns the first person
pov, from the first person pov. That is the first person experience. [...]
Comp accepts that both copies are equivalent (with respect to identity)
On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:26, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
This *looks* like a description of the salvia experience, but term
like anti-consciousness is a bit pejorative for that, although it
has anti-life aspect, pointing on the fact that theology is not much
pro-life.
That would
John,
I reformulated the UDA in a way that does not use any pronouns at all, and
it doesn't matter if you consider the question from one view or from all
the views, the conclusion is the same. Perhaps you wouldn't mind
commenting on whether or not you agree with my conclusion. I will re-post
it
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:06:52 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 30 Oct 2013, at 18:01, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:52:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Oct 2013, at 19:15, Craig Weinberg wrote:
That assumes that being alive implies
Bruno: It is the Indra net of universal numbers reflecting themselves which
exists as consequences of the laws of addition or multiplication.
Richard: Very Platonic and that is perhaps what programs the Metaverse
number net.
But from my Aristotelian viewpoint, it is the Indra net of universal
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
this distracts from the question asked, which concerns the first person
pov, from the first person pov. That is the first person experience. [...]
Comp accepts that both
Surely this is a very significant result, the equivalent of the Michelson
Morley for (relatively large scale) quantisation of space-time? I believe
this kills LQG, but what about CDT, spin foams, and (of course) M theory?
Does this kill the idea of compactification, or are those Calabi-Yau
So what *was* Neitzsche on about? Did he think everyone is a potential
superman (or woman, I hope) ? Was he the first self-help guru? That seems
an almost a religious idea, although it may become technologically feasible
soon, to some degree ... I don't believe he had any leanings towards a
master
That asumption is used in an effort to motivate people to disprove it.
(Oh, and dentists would like to find themselves out of a job... :)
On 1 November 2013 06:30, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/10/31 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/31/2013 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
As I said before there is a profound difference between the two. After
Everett's thought experiment is over only ONE person is seen by a third
party so it's easy to determine
On 10/31/2013 1:52 PM, LizR wrote:
So what /was/ Neitzsche on about?
It's hard to say. He reject systems and believed is seeing things from different
perspectives. So he writes a lot things which are inconsistent, at least on the surface.
That's why his ideas can be taken up by the Nazis,
John, you are not the first that Quentin has categorized as a roger or
stephen lin. Richard
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
As
On 10/31/2013 5:33 PM,
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/opinion/sunday/dogs-are-people-too.html?pagewanted=1
Doesn't seem like news to me. More like Dog bites man.
Brent
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
A) The test described where the simulation process forks 8 times and 256
copies are created and they each see a different pattern of the ball
changing color
Duplicating a brain is not enough, the intelligence has NOT
Groan! -- The prospect of ferreting out animal emotions scares many
scientists.
M.R.I.’s are conducted in loud, confined spaces. -- Jeez, I do NOT expect
to see the N.Y. Times misusing apostrophes!
The ability to experience positive emotions, like love and attachment,
would mean that dogs have a
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
if 've waited too much to put you in the boitakon, meet roger and
stephen li
I'm guessing that's an insult of some sort but my Quentinspeak is a little
rusty so I'm not sure.
John K Clark
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