On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
> > Super-intelligence is more resilient than human intelligence, so it is
>> likely to last longer
>>
>
> Maybe, but I note that smarter than average humans seem to ha
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:30 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 6/9/2015 2:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 09 Jun 2015, at 04:08, meekerdb wrote:
>
> This is stupid on so many levels, even on the most basic factual one:
> You can't see the genitals of a pigeon. They're covered by feathers. You
> h
t, even though there are apparently 100
trillion of them compared to 7 billion humans.
Telmo.
>
> Terren
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Telmo Menezes
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Something I have been thinking about. I start with two assumptions:
>&
Hi everyone,
Something I have been thinking about. I start with two assumptions:
- Super-intelligence is more resilient than human intelligence, so it is
likely to last longer (e.g. it is more likely to be able to anticipate
existencial threats and prepare accordingly; it is more likely to spread
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 16 May 2015, at 15:47, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Kellett
> wrote:
>
>> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:50 AM,
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Kellett
>> So you think that Darwinian evolution produced intelligent
>> zombies,
>> and then computat
>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Kellett
>> So you think that Darwinian evolution produced intelligent zombies,
>> and then computationalism infused consciousness?
>>
>> No. What I am saying is that consciousness is not a plausible target for
>> gradual evolution for the follow
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Bruce Kellett <
>> bhkell...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bruce Kellett <
>> bhkell...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Bruce Kellett > <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>> meekerdb wrote:
>>
>> On 5/15/2015 10:29
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> meekerdb wrote:
>
>> On 5/15/2015 10:29 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The AI that I envisage will probably be based on a learning program of
>>> some sort, that will have to learn in much the same way as an infant human
>>> learns. I d
even." I hope Lomborg does. He might just have
> with this unseen WSJ article. I will send a site link which will show the
> full article.
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Telmo Menezes
> To: everything-list
> Sent: Fri, May 1
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:27 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/15/2015 2:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:07 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>> On 13 May 2015 at 21:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Clouds, especially
ng it works, sans fee).
>
>
> http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-honor-of-being-mugged-by-climate-censors-1431558936
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Telmo Menezes
> To: everything-list
> Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 07:52 AM
> Subject:
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:21 PM, LizR wrote:
> On 15 May 2015 at 21:38, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:07 AM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>> On 13 May 2015 at 21:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Clouds,
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:07 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 13 May 2015 at 21:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>>
>>> Clouds, especially high clouds have some effect. They reflect visible
>>> bands back to space and they also absorb and reemit IR. Low clouds tend to
>&
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:20 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/12/2015 7:02 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>> Brent, that link doesn't work for me - did you miss something off the end?
>>
>
> Oops! Shoulda been:
>
>
> http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/4/13/8371781/homesick-is-a-fantasy-walkabout-in-a-scary-lonel
>
>
> Clouds, especially high clouds have some effect. They reflect visible
> bands back to space and they also absorb and reemit IR. Low clouds tend to
> increase heat load because they reflect in the day, but they insulate day
> and night. It's not magic, it's just calculation.
>
Of course, I
>
>
>
> With climate change and cures for cancer you need statistics, because
> there are no such laws in these fields. There is no equation where you can
> plug-in a CO2 concentration and get a correct prediction on global
> temperature change.
>
>
> There's a law where you can plug in atmospheri
>
>
> I disagree. I think this criticisms comes from a misinterpretation of what
> the p-value means. The p-value estimates the probability of seeing results
> at least as helpful to the hypothesis as the ones found, assuming the null
> hypothesis. A high p-value is informative because it tells us
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 11:55 PM, LizR wrote:
> I believe satellites and weather stations give a lot of samples of
> atmospheric temperature (and other properties, I assume).
>
Yes, I am not questioning these readings. I believe that 2010 was warmer
than any year in the previous century, etc.
W
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:47 PM, LizR wrote:
> So all these hottest years on record we keep getting are made up?
>
> Just curious.
>
>
>
> Admittedly this is from 2010, maybe the trend has reversed in last 5 years?
>
How long is the record? What is the p-value for the hypothesis of this
being
"In the scenario we present here, measuring the last photon
affects the physical description of the first photon
in the past, before it has even been measured. Thus,
the ”spooky action” is steering the system’s past".
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1209.4191v1.pdf
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On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 06 May 2015, at 08:41, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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>
>
> 2015-05-06 3:51 GMT+02:00 meekerdb :
>
>> On 5/5/2015 5:34 PM, LizR wrote:
>>
>> On 5 May 2015 at 11:12, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>>> Where does the money go once it's bought votes?
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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>
> 2015-05-06 3:51 GMT+02:00 meekerdb :
>
>> On 5/5/2015 5:34 PM, LizR wrote:
>>
>> On 5 May 2015 at 11:12, meekerdb wrote:
>>
>>> Where does the money go once it's bought votes?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's redistributed. So after the Koch b
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Dennis Ochei wrot
> What are the terms for it? We have up/down left/right forward/backward
> ??/?? ?
>
I don't think there's a name for that, but here's a nice game in 4D:
http://miegakure.com/
They project 4D to 3D and let you switch between which 3 dim
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:12 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/4/2015 2:54 PM, LizR wrote:
>
> On 5 May 2015 at 00:12, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:03 PM, LizR wrote:
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>>> Yes, very. I haven't read the paper yet but I hope when the
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 04 May 2015, at 10:23, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:08 PM, LizR wrote:
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>> On 4 May 2015 at 06:45, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Of course believing i
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:59 PM, PGC wrote:
>
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 4:03:50 PM UTC+2, telmo_menezes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Alberto G. Corona
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Of course believing in the supernatural is absurd -- what does that even
mean? If, for example, gh
conference is going to be in my city in the end of July. I am not
sure I will be able to attend, but if I can I will try to ask Ben in person.
Telmo.
>
> Mitch
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Telmo Menezes
> To: everything-list
> Sent: Mon, May 4, 2015 9:08 am
>
>
>
> Interesting idea:
>> http://ericposner.com/quadratic-voting/
>>
>
> I see it's claimed to be "more efficient" and I can certainly see that. It
> will allow the Koch brothers to directly buy the laws they want without
> having to buy Congressmen.
>
That is better, no? It means that their mon
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Alberto G. Corona
wrote:
> Of course believing in the supernatural is absurd -- what does that even
>> mean? If, for example, ghosts were real, then this would just mean that
>> current scientific theories are incomplete or wrong.
>>
>
> So what?
>
No problem, my
nal world -- although it won't get you
a nobel prize or even any sort of recognition.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Telmo Menezes
> To: everything-list
> Sent: Mon, May 4, 2015 4:19 am
> Subject: Re: Michael Shermer becomes sceptical about scepticism!
>
fluence policy, the more wealth equality you get. The author proposes a
mathematical proof that such a system would stabilize on an equal
distribution of political power.
Of course, there are many real world details that could make this idea fail
miserably, but it's fun to think about.
>
Interesting idea:
http://ericposner.com/quadratic-voting/
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On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:08 PM, LizR wrote:
> On 4 May 2015 at 06:45, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>>
>> Of course believing in the supernatural is absurd -- what does that even
>> mean? If, for example, ghosts were real, then this would just mean that
>> current scie
dden Pattern, which I had downloaded, a couple of months ago. Any data or
> opinion on Goetzel's view on all this?
>
Have you seen this?
http://multiverseaccordingtoben.blogspot.de/2015/03/paranormal-phenomena-nonlocal-mind-and.html
Telmo.
>
> Mitch
>
>
> -Original Me
Hi spudboy,
I follow Ben Goetzel and have some of the books he recommends on the topic
on my to-read list.
I remain agnostic on this stuff, and just try to consider the simplest
explanation, even if it's boring. In the case of this story, this sounds a
lot like the event was staged by some nice p
>
> Ok, but you could equally say that all the universe does is attain the
>> state of heat death, or that all a person does is end up dead. You are
>> choosing to ignore the intermediate steps as unimportant, because you know
>> the ultimate outcome.
>>
>
> My point is that the intermediate steps
>
>
> If you think that blacks did ok under slavery, and didn't perish hugely,
> you must be living in fantasy land. I am about as rightwing as one can get
> on this mailing list. But I am not fibbing in order to cleanse the facts of
> human history. While, I am at it, The Spaniards and Portuguese
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:34 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>>
>> Bruce seems to ignore the (mind-body) problem, and to miss that the UDA
>> just helps to make that problem more precise, in the frame of
>> computationalism, and to make it more amenable to more rigorous treatmen
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 9:48 PM, PGC wrote:
>
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 5:55:46 PM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 02:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:19 AM, LizR wrote:
>>
>
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 24 Apr 2015, at 02:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:19 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>> You should both go to jail, on the basis that both copies of you had the
>> same consciousnes
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:19 AM, LizR wrote:
> You should both go to jail, on the basis that both copies of you had the
> same consciousness as the person who committed the murder, and therefore
> you are both equally responsible (leaving aside considerations of free will
> etc)
>
I agree. I wou
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Alberto G. Corona
wrote:
> The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may
> preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide.
> Boltzman committed suicide in part because his own theories of
> termodinamical dead of the uni
My suspicion is that "personal identity" is a human concept that is evolved
mainly to enforce social norms, and that it only works until technologies
like duplication machines or mind uploading are created. To illustrate
this, I propose a dilemma:
Let's assume I murder someone and then get scanned
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Kellett > <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>> Dennis Ochei wrote:
>>
>> One must revise the everyday
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Dennis Ochei wrote:
>
>> One must revise the everyday concept of personal identity because it
>> isn't even coherent. It's like youre getting mad at him for explaining
>> combustion without reference to phlogiston. He can't use the everyday
18, 2015 at 1:24 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Telmo Menezes
>> *Sen
>
>
>
> Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is now
> creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created from
> the dawn of humans through the current century. It has been estimated that
> by 2020, the size of the world’s digital universe will be clo
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 6:36 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 4/17/2015 11:56 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
>
>
> Current global growth estimates are that every two days, the world is
> now creating as much new digital information as all the data ever created
> from the dawn of hum
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:53 AM, Bruce Kellett > <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>> LizR wrote:
>>
>> On 15 April 2015 at 10:15, J
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:53 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> LizR wrote:
>
>> On 15 April 2015 at 10:15, John Clark > johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes but I'm confused, I though you were the one arguing that Bruno
>> had discovered something new under the sun, a new sort of
>> uncertain
>
> My problem with any view based on entropy is that entropy doesn't appear
to be fundamental to physics; it is the statistically likely result when
objects are put in a certain configuration and allowed to evolve randomly.
>>>
>> There is, however, an interesting parallel to be mad
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:44 AM, John Clark wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 , Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>> >I have this crazy idea to remove the supposed ambiguity: ask a specific
>> Telmo if his prediction was correct or not.
>>
>
> If Telmo were logic
Hi Liz,
> Ok. I have an idea about that, it is probably not original. Tell me what
>> you think:
>> The universe was not created. All possible states just exist. The moment
>> of the big bang is one of the many possible states. What we call the past
>> is a sequence of steps in the state graph th
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:16 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 4/13/2015 7:39 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
> Comp does not specify a substitution level. Maybe it's the brain, maybe
> the whole body or the entire planet. The duplication machines assume the
> body, but then this re
;>> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>>>>> everything-list@goo
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>> On 13 Apr 2015, at 05:31, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>>
>> The philosophical literature is full of extended discussions on this,
>>> and it is widely understood that ideas such as brain transplants and
>>> duplicating ma
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:31 AM, Bruce Kellett
wrote:
> John Clark wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 Telmo Menezes > te...@telmomenezes.com>> wrote:
>> > >And now that I have answered you question I repeat my question
>> that you dodged: Who
>
> Thanks Telmo. I have looked only to the 1/3 video.
> I am shocked myself by my accent, and I have discovered that I do oral
> "typos" now ...
>
I hate listening to my own voice recorded, I believe that's very common.
I think it's easy to understand and gives you character. I have worked with
m
Hi everyone,
Mysteriously, I came across the videos of a very recent talk by Bruno
entitled "Mathematical Self-Reproduction".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATl86jBfwqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76iuXcVOAuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5etar0vQYnI
Bruno, hope you don't mind me postin
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:43 PM, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>> >>And now that I have answered you question I repeat my question that you
>>> dodged: Who is traveling through time in a forward direction, Mr. John
>>
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:42 AM, LizR wrote:
> Brent:
>
> Communism is not a terrible idea - it works fine for families. A lot of
>> political problems come from trying to extend ethics that evolved for
>> families and small tribes to nation states of millions of unrelated people.
>>
>> Thanks Br
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:40 AM, John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
> > wrote:
>
>
>> >> Who is traveling through time in a forward direction, Mr. John Clark
>>> or Mr. John Clark The Helsinki Man?
>>>
>
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:10 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 8 April 2015 at 01:43, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> > You left out "traveling through time in a forward direction".
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who is traveling through tim
Thanks Brent!
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:20 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> For Telmo.
>
> Brent
>
>
> Forwarded Message
>
>
> Thomas Jefferson is credited with the following sage advice, *“The central
> bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the
> Principle
hey are travelling through
time in a forward direction?
>
>
>> > many worlds or duplicating machines you have to specify which "Telmo
>> Menezes" or which "you" in the exact same way.
>>
>
> No it is not exactly the same way. With copying machines Jo
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:45 PM, meekerdb wrote:
>
>
> It was a totalitarian government, like within a single corporation.
> Nothing at all like Marx imagined. Where Marx's idea has been realized is
> in the Amana colonies in the US and the kibbutz in Israel. So why didn't
> they devolve into to
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:04 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
> > If you take the MWI seriously, then you are open to the possibility that
>> you are constantly being duplicated
>>
>
> If the MWI is true then it's
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 10:15 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 4/4/2015 6:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
> Hi John
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:10 PM, John Mikes wrote:
>
>> TELMO:
>> I did not expect from you to point to the 2 centuries old obsolete and
>>
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:42 PM, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>
> > "I" is a single entity travelling through time in the forward direction.
>>
>
> If matter copying machines exist there would be nothing "single" about it,
> Mr. I can split numerous times
aged by technological advance. One of the
realities about the current economic crises that few are willing to admit:
there simply are no longer jobs for everyone.
I think the best idea that we have so far is the universal flat salary.
Best,
Telmo.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:04 AM,
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:19 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 2 April 2015 at 15:18, John Clark wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 LizR wrote:
>>
>>
>>> >> In practice Communism was evil but in theory it was just stupid
> Almost as stupid as capitalism,
>>>
>>
>> The defining characteristic of stupid
"Fast Radios Bursts (FRBs) show large dispersion measures (DMs), suggesting
an extragalactic location. We analyze the DMs of the 11 known FRBs in
detail and identify steps as integer multiples of half the lowest DM found,
187.5cm−3 pc, so that DMs occur in groups centered at 375, 562, 750, 937,
112
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:13 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 2 April 2015 at 19:40, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:19 AM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>> On 1 April 2015 at 20:50, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR w
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:19 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 1 April 2015 at 20:50, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>> I hope that isn't an April Fool!
>>>
>>> Well, this isn't rocket scien
Hi Liz,
Yes, this is quite exciting, more so than Watson or Deep Blue because it
tries to be more generic.
The latest wave of excitement seems to come from Google's Deep Mind. Here's
a paper about it, with some videos you can see even without paying:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v518/n754
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:40 AM, LizR wrote:
> I hope that isn't an April Fool!
>
> Well, this isn't rocket science...
>
> In 2013, it was more likely Americans would be killed by a toddler than a
>> terrorist. In that year, three Americans were killed in the Boston Marathon
>> bombing, while todd
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:09 AM, LizR wrote:
> As mentioned in another thread, the media have (as it were) blown the
> Islamic threat up out of all proportion. Climate change is a FAR greater
> threat to civilisation than ISIS will ever be.
>
That is true. It is also true that ISIS was essentiall
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>
>
> 2015-03-31 12:11 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes :
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Quentin Anciaux
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-03-31 10:37 GMT+02:00 Telmo
Hi Liz,
You may be right. I am surely not going to debate that there are a lot of
people who were lucky enough to have been born in optimal conditions and
feel superior to people who were just less lucky. For this reason, they
will support ideas that are just self-serving rationalizations.
The pr
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Quentin Anciaux
wrote:
>
>
> 2015-03-31 10:37 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes :
>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Russell Standish
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 07:04:10AM -0400, spudboy100 via Everything List
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Russell Standish
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 07:04:10AM -0400, spudboy100 via Everything List
> wrote:
> > Well, its not the new jihadists I blame, but the (yes) leftist
> academics, politicians, and news thugs, that have long, empowered, and made
> excuses f
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Kim Jones wrote:
>
>
>
> On 30 Mar 2015, at 11:19 am, LizR wrote:
>
> On 30 March 2015 at 08:39, meekerdb wrote:
>
>> On 3/29/2015 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> Please! "Hunter Gatherers" - "warriors
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:04 AM, LizR wrote:
> On 28 March 2015 at 23:12, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> The characteristics of a gender have been evolved by millions of years of
>> selection, and women preferences play a role in this selection process.
>>
>> Not ju
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <
multiplecit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:57 PM, John Clark wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>>
>>> > Ok... Well now everybody can see you as you really are,
>>>
>> And I'm perfectly satisf
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:39 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 3/29/2015 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> Please! "Hunter Gatherers" - "warriors" is a boys' club term for it.
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> I can accept that the term "warrior" glorifies something nasty,
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Kim Jones wrote:
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> On 28 Mar 2015, at 9:12 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> Hi Kim,
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> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Kim Jones
> wrote:
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>> On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:21 pm, LizR wrote:
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>> http://www.raqqa-sl.com/
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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> 2015-03-28 19:04 GMT+01:00 Telmo Menezes :
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>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, John Clark wrote:
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>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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> > Is anyone else worried that the list is descending to a low place?
>>
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> It's interesting, Quentin The Horse Fucker has been calling me "Liar
> Clark" about every other day since Dece
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 5:40 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> > You are saying that step 3 is trivial, so you admit that it is correct
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> No. The first 2 steps are trivialities dressed up in pompous language, but
> in
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Mindey I. wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
Hi Mindey, welcome.
>
> so, my background: http://mindey.com/42 -- I always wanted to know its
> origin precisely.
>
> The understanding of the origin of Universe(=Everything, Multiverse,
> and our Life experience included) wa
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 5:41 AM, LizR wrote:
> Sadly, it's quite clear that Mr Clark has no wish to engage with the
> argument being presented. It's fair to say that on this subject, at least,
> rather than attempt to understand the point being made, he's resorted to
> insults and dismissive "cle
Hi Kim,
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Kim Jones wrote:
> On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:21 pm, LizR wrote:
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> http://www.raqqa-sl.com/en/?p=857
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>
> So most of these women are Brits? WTF! Makes your blood run cold. People
> are turning into zombies left right and centre. There is absolutely nothing
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:01 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> > I don't think anyone claims that the duplicating machines are an analogy
>> for the MWI.
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> Quentin The Horse Fucker claims EXACTLY that and even calls me
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:15 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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> > John is inconsistent... he asserts that theory for duplication machines,
>> and so say that he can never say anything about his future expectations
>> because he is no more... but somehow he c
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:33 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> >> Generally when Watson was wrong he knew he was probably wrong. I find
>>> that significant.
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>> > I find that significant
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:15 AM, John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> >> it will be more than human.
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>> >I'm not sure what that means.
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> It means that a future machine can perform any task in a way
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:23 PM, John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 Telmo Menezes wrote:
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>> >> And anyway the really important thing isn't if you can detect if the
>>> thing you're talking to is a human but if you can detect if the th
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