All of us are emotional animals, otherwise your team wouldn't be foaming at the
mouth over the man. If one is existential in mind, and many are not, then one
follows the lead. Bit not all! I know women (plural) who'd otherwise have voted
for Trumpo, if not for his view on abortion.
I suspect
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 10:22 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
>> On 8/27/2022 6:31 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>> >> I am no conservative, but more of a nationalist-centrist and can be
>> >> persuaded by evidence and reason.
>
>
> * >Does anybody believe that...besides you?*
>
For Trump
Impossible to say Brent and actually more hard to care. One can only state the
truth as one sees it an move forwards. And yeah evidence and reason do work for
me, as long as there is no counter-evidence that I trust. An example would be
solar energy. Or abortion for example, not exactly
On 8/27/2022 6:31 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
I am no conservative, but more of a nationalist-centrist and can be
persuaded by evidence and reason.
Does anybody believe that...besides you?
Brent
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This is the progressive mindset Thomas. If you do this, they call it
"whataboudism," which is a way they shut opposing voices (within their
ideology) up. So the national policy of a dictator is to their minds, somehow
equal to deadly screw ups, and prejudices with a faith. Never dare compare
Look, you are just like a lot of academics who's intellectual brilliance get's
eclipsed by their ideology. Ideology as a faith movement.' AKA Group loyalty
and identity. Also, you like the high street crime rates outside your burg? You
go much further out of Princeton, and the hood takes over.
My reply:
I personally know people who were involved in the ACA, and they told me it
sucked. That the prices per month kept climbing and climbing and service got
worse and worse. Obama also let his contributor's for campaigns like
UnitedHeathCare write the act. Then they bailed on him after
I hate to tell you this John, but my spam filter is starting to delete
you. I think it's the company you keep.
Brent
On 8/26/2022 2:27 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 4:18 PM spudboy100 via Everything List
wrote:
/> I postulate this. That had /[George] /Carlin lived
Why concentrate on the USSR? Because they were nominally atheists?
Why not read
https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/canadian-native-childrens-graves-reflect-history-indigenous-vanishment
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 4:27:38 PM UTC-5 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 4:18 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> *> I postulate this. That had *[George] *Carlin lived longer, he would
>> have, not without reject, voted for
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 4:18 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
*> I postulate this. That had *[George] *Carlin lived longer, he would
> have, not without reject, voted for Orange Man. *
*You've got to be kidding!! *
*> You dems groove on
You dems groove on personality, but I focus on policy. Group knowledge is still
a thing that even a physicist might acknowledge? I mean, we all have our
observer moments. Why not just list what you hated and opposed about his
policies, versus doing something different? Like, "I hated his higher
I voted for him having hated barrack Benghazi, which was no show-stopper for
you, and felt we had to get somebody sharper. I didn't expect him to win,
because no matter if one is a physicist, if one thinks emotionally only, it
occults whatever brilliance they possess, like with yourself.
I
I postulate this. That had Carlin lived longer, he would have, not without
reject, voted for Orange Man.
I am not trying to sell Don to you with a side of coleslaw, but rather to state
how worse Joe and maybe Hillary are, and would be. For Joe, I would point out
the disastrously bad Susan Rice
If there was a common wisdom of the common man t'Rump would never have been
on the ballot.
LC
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 5:13:14 AM UTC-5 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 5:46 AM Lawrence Crowell
> wrote:
>
> *> There is no such thing as "common wisdom" of the average
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 5:46 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
*> There is no such thing as "common wisdom" of the average man. If there
> were Don-the-Con t'Rump would not have been elected. The average person is
> pretty ignorant and half of them are just
On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 9:00:39 PM UTC-5 spudb...@aol.com wrote:
> The original analogy by the philosopher (forget the name) was Jupiter,
> just to be picky. The point is today, we could, if we were rich as Musk,
> could physical place a Tea Pot into orbit of whichever Gas Giant you'd
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 10:10:46AM +0200, Telmo Menezes wrote:
[...]
>
> Believe it or not I am also a lousy programmer and had formal
> education as an engineer (even though I have a hard time seeing
> myself as one) who has done some research with anthropologists:
Heh.
>
The original analogy by the philosopher (forget the name) was Jupiter, just to
be picky. The point is today, we could, if we were rich as Musk, could physical
place a Tea Pot into orbit of whichever Gas Giant you'd like. My experience is
that many scientists hold everyone else as chumps,
If what I read of some news articles about old Adolf was that he literally went
from performing felatio in Vienna parks at night to customers, to supplement
his income as a starving artist, to commanding the German nation. Thus, yeah,
one could see where somebody like that could develop
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:33 PM wrote:
> *I don't worship science as a faith. *
>
Neither do scientists.
> *> On the other hand, this theory hasn't been successfully refuted, yet!*
>
The theory that there is a China teapot in orbit around the planet Uranus
hasn't been refuted either!
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:30 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
*> The Nuremberg Laws of 1935 were legal as well. The point is that whether
> criminal or government, its the physical action that matters. Thus, policy
> matters and not personality. *
>
> On 23-Aug-2022, at 6:17 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
>
> Prophet Muhammed was the Head of State of Medina and the surrounding Muslim
> areas.
> He was succeeded by his close companion Abu Bakr Siddiq as the first Caliph
> of the Muslim State.
> Umar became the second Caliph after him.
>
My view, not that my view counts for much, is that once a person hits 16,
whoever they bed down with is on them. That somebody took advantage of their
youth stretches credulity if that person is not physically or mentally
disabled. 15 I could see yeah for immaturity, but at the point of
Meaning the recent generation of Sein Fein were not Church goers like in 1916
where it was "Prof v Croppy" as they called it. These were more focused on the
socialist path, and world revolution, versus say the prod Red hand flying
commandos. Was more ethnic war then a religious war amongst
Before prescribing it is good to understand, and your understanding of these
events (including the IRA comment before) seems really shallow to me.
Telmo
Am Mi, 24. Aug 2022, um 07:20, schrieb spudboy100 via Everything List:
>
> Not all religions are papal in nature organizationally. This is
Not all religions are papal in nature organizationally. This is why there was a
Reformation. Was it any better? Somewhat. The thing now is to decide not simply
how vile religious are, even in the face of the 20th century murders by the
irreligious taking the lead, but how to problem solve.
If
Still even the Christians (cross worshippers?) after the Protestant Reformation
were able to cut truces (hudna's) and stop the fighting. Your internal battles
seem too long lived. Even the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland stopped
killing each other. Having said that the IRA were very lapsed
Isn't religion all about policy...God commands...the Pope interprets.
Brent
On 8/23/2022 8:30 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
The Nuremberg Laws of 1935 were legal as well. The point is that
whether criminal or government, its the physical action that matters.
Thus, policy matters and not
I think and maybe hope. But I don't worship science as a faith. On the other
hand, this theory hasn't been successfully refuted, yet!
I await the refutation with folded hands.
The Nuremberg Laws of 1935 were legal as well. The point is that whether
criminal or government, its the physical action that matters. Thus, policy
matters and not personality.
-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2022 9:27 pm
Holy Quran 3:33
--
۞ إِنَّ اللَّهَ اصْطَفَىٰ آدَمَ وَنُوحًا وَآلَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَآلَ عِمْرَانَ
عَلَى الْعَالَمِينَ
Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of
'Imran over the worlds -
Holy Quran 3:34
--
ذُرِّيَّةً بَعْضُهَا
Why would the position as religious leader be inherited?
What does the quran say about that?
/Henrik
Den tis 23 aug. 2022 15:17Samiya Illias skrev:
> Prophet Muhammed was the Head of State of Medina and the surrounding
> Muslim areas.
> He was succeeded by his close companion Abu Bakr Siddiq as
Prophet Muhammed was the Head of State of Medina and the surrounding Muslim
areas.
He was succeeded by his close companion Abu Bakr Siddiq as the first Caliph of
the Muslim State.
Umar became the second Caliph after him.
Uthman became the third Caliph after Umar.
Ali became the fourth
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 8:32 PM wrote:
*> So, should we discard history because somebody is long dead?*
>
Yes except for academic purposes, and we certainly shouldn't start
murdering each other over it. The Sunni-Shia conflict exists because some
Muslims think that when Muhammad died in 632 and
> I assure you I have not invented satanism. Oh, if you meant plural
> "you", and me being a member of some group, I do not think I am a
> member of such a group. Groups with which I identify the most are:
I meant "you" the Christians, but I shouldn't have phrased it like that,
granted.
> -
On 8/22/2022 4:50 PM, Tomasz Rola wrote:
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 09:31:04AM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 8/22/2022 1:18 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote:
In case of Inquisition, I gave you the rule to determine if they were
doing their abuses for the faith or for themselves. Here is what
Jewish
So, should we discard history because somebody is long dead? Religion was an
attempt to fix problems and control people, and explain the world to people who
didn't have the energy because they were too busy farming or ranching. So maybe
because of scientific knowledge we may do better. I mean
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 09:31:04AM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote:
> On 8/22/2022 1:18 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> >In case of Inquisition, I gave you the rule to determine if they were
> >doing their abuses for the faith or for themselves. Here is what
> >Jewish wikipedia says:
> >
> >start quote
> >
> >
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 11:58:36AM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
>
> On 8/21/2022 4:00 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
> >On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:12:50 PM UTC-5 Tomasz Rola wrote:
> >
> >On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:20:51PM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
[...]
> >> LC
> >
> >
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 4:18 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
*> Religion didn't do a damn thing really to improve the human condition,
> say in Europe. It did seem to as a practice stop formal human sacrifice,*
And why did religion start in the first
I had read that he did for 5 years and was not in Pakistan until recently,
(2006) which caused Obama to act. Is it true? This is what I wish to know. Did
Bush cut the dude loose, or is it rumor, disinformation, (divide and conquer)
or could it be accurate? It's simply a question!
Questions
True. Religion didn't do a damn thing really to improve the human condition,
say in Europe. It did seem to as a practice stop formal human sacrifice, and
eventually eliminate slavery and replaced it with serfdom, where farmers were
tied to the land, and obliged to work the lord's lands, turn
You can't even get your questions straight while you pretend to have
profound insight into Stalinism, Fascism, Progressism, etc. Bin Laden
never went to Iran. He was from Saudi Arabia and went to Afghanistan
and the Pakistan.
Brent
On 8/22/2022 5:38 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List
But it depended on religion and religious belief to function as it did.
Brent
On 8/22/2022 1:18 AM, Tomasz Rola wrote:
In case of Inquisition, I gave you the rule to determine if they were
doing their abuses for the faith or for themselves. Here is what
Jewish wikipedia says:
start quote
Oh, a practical question instead of a declarative statement! I never said that
Religion or Religion doesn't suck, I just don't like to waste effort blaming
everyone who likes to pray and claim that the 'moral,' let us use ethical
behavior isn't automatically doomed to hell, and thus making the
I think the socialists (stalinists financed billionaires) aka progressives,
love to use the long ago past as a psychological weapon. Witness the Anne Frank
was privileged flap I brought up.Was it Rally the Left On Twitter they
forgive whatever the socialists do, but ban whatever capitalists
The Religious Trumpies want to please Jesus. I just want to see the America and
the human species survive. The best path for this was Trumpo, and the dem toads
have decided to make him a martyr. This is just like Ghost Busters, the
original, when Zul, atop the skyscapper said: Name the Form of
Actually the progressives of today ain't Eugene Debs of 100 years ago. It's a
cover for being Joe Stalin in a tootoo. Team dem hasn't done jack shit for
anyone except drive up crime and inflation.
-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun,
I am still going to compare and contrast people , places, and things,because
your whataboudism statement just shows how accurate doing exactly is.
Much thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2022 6:51 pm
Subject: Re:
I just think we're just trouble by croaking. Being an atheist won't solve this
problem at all!!!
-Original Message-
From: John Clark
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2022 8:51 am
Subject: Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold
Threat
The German Christians did, the American and Canadian, and British Christians
didn't. The National Socialist leader, even more then the Christians that
followed them in old Deutschland, were lead by an ideology that superseded
Martin Luther's hatred of the yids. Witness.
Hitler & the
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 8:38 AM wrote:
*> Bushie 43, like Adolf, Like Joey (free stuff!) knew how to throw a sales
> pitch. My question is, does anyone know or believe (evidence please) that
> Bush allowed Bin Laden to escape to Iran (blink-blink)?*
>
I really hate defending George W. Bush but
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 10:04 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
>> but it's very easy to find evidence that Osama bin Laden did
>> >> what he did for religious reasons, all you need to do is look at just
>> about
>> >> anything he ever said or wrote in his life. Even George W. Bush said
>> he
>> >>
Bushie 43, like Adolf, Like Joey (free stuff!) knew how to throw a sales pitch.
My question is, does anyone know or believe (evidence please) that Bush allowed
Bin Laden to escape to Iran (blink-blink)?
-Original Message-From: John Clark
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sent:
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 6:41 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
* > progressives, who in the US, are stalinists funded by billion$ in a
> trade of money (blah blah blah)*
If progressives are the stalinist totalitarians why is it that it is the
Trump
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 12:02:14AM +0200, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
> Am So, 21. Aug 2022, um 20:55, schrieb Tomasz Rola:
> > On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 04:00:41AM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
> > [...]
> > The problem you describe is there, but I do not think it is pertinent
> > to religion or
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 04:11:04PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 2:56 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
>
>
> > *> crimes are not being done to satiate religious feelings (except,
> > perhaps, satanism) - "normal" human beingsdo crimes to satiate their basic
> > instincts*
>
>
> What
On 8/21/2022 3:41 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Yeah serious problems with religion. But the ideology of the
progressives, who in the US, are stalinists funded by billion$ in a
trade of money for power, is nothing virtuous either. Anyway. its
unwise to expect too much from
A fine example of whataboutism from potatobaby. Hitler and his "GOTT
MIT UNS" army, kills millions in war and millions more of their own
citizens...but there's a squabble on Twitter about whether Anne Frank
had "white privilege"...before she was killed of course.
Brent
On 8/21/2022 3:24 PM,
Yeah serious problems with religion. But the ideology of the progressives, who
in the US, are stalinists funded by billion$ in a trade of money for power, is
nothing virtuous either. Anyway. its unwise to expect too much from people.
Religious, atheist's, anyone.
-Original Message-
If you were accurate, then no Jesus believer would have opposed the 3rd Reich.
This was never history. Churchill & Roosevelt never existed? They weren't
angels, and they let my peeps burn up like logs in a fire.But they still done
good, and I admire them, even if your universities accuse them
Wouldn't you expect those following God to not do evil in the first
place. Are we supposed to admire them for stop doing evil.
Brent
On 8/21/2022 2:28 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
The Christians are good. If millions followed Adolf, millions more
fought to defeat him and his
Am So, 21. Aug 2022, um 20:55, schrieb Tomasz Rola:
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 04:00:41AM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
> [...]
>> Sure, there were religious leaders who opposed Nazism, such as the Lutheran
>> theologian who wrote "First they came for ... ." I cannot remember his name
>> off
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 5:28 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
*> The Christians are good. If millions followed Adolf, millions more
> fought to defeat him and his followers.*
Every single one of the soldiers in Hitler's army, Navy and Air Force were
The Christians are good. If millions followed Adolf, millions more fought to
defeat him and his followers.
They done good. White people enslaved Blacks, but white people also liberated
them.
Hitler would never have gotten to do the mass murdering without working with
the liberals friend ,Joe
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 2:56 PM Tomasz Rola wrote:
> *> crimes are not being done to satiate religious feelings (except,
> perhaps, satanism) - "normal" human beingsdo crimes to satiate their basic
> instincts*
What evidence do you have that the above statement is true? I don't think
you have
On 8/21/2022 4:00 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:12:50 PM UTC-5 Tomasz Rola wrote:
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:20:51PM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
> Nobody said the solar storm had anything to do with climate
change. As for
> the wild fires it
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 04:00:41AM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
[...]
> Sure, there were religious leaders who opposed Nazism, such as the Lutheran
> theologian who wrote "First they came for ... ." I cannot remember his name
> off hand.
Martin Niemöller:
On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 4:58 AM Tomasz Rola wrote:
*> You two (Crowell && Clark) may consider yourselves as some kind of wise
> guys. *
*Well, I know Lawrence has a certain amount of wisdom and I like to think I
do too. *
*> But frankly, it does not require much of brain power to find
On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 4:12:50 PM UTC-5 Tomasz Rola wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:20:51PM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
> > Nobody said the solar storm had anything to do with climate change. As
> for
> > the wild fires it is the case they are adding to the 55 billion tons of
On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 11:12:47PM +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:20:51PM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
[...]
> > poor. However, Christians most often align with the most wealthy and
> > powerful. You are a religious shill for the oil companies. Remember that
> > little
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:20:51PM -0700, Lawrence Crowell wrote:
> Nobody said the solar storm had anything to do with climate change. As for
> the wild fires it is the case they are adding to the 55 billion tons of CO2
> entered into the atmosphere by fossil fuels.
>
> You follow what I
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