On 10/31/2013 1:52 PM, LizR wrote:
So what /was/ Neitzsche on about?
It's hard to say. He reject systems and believed is seeing things from different
perspectives. So he writes a lot things which are inconsistent, at least on the surface.
That's why his ideas can be taken up by the Nazis, A
So what *was* Neitzsche on about? Did he think everyone is a potential
superman (or woman, I hope) ? Was he the first self-help guru? That seems
an almost a religious idea, although it may become technologically feasible
soon, to some degree ... I don't believe he had any leanings towards a
master
On 10/31/2013 1:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
OK, but that's the problem with the übermensch. He feels it can think for the
others.
"What? You would multiply yourself by ten, by a hundred? You seek followers? I seek
zeros!"
--- Frederick Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols
--
You received thi
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> Ok, by me, although for an off-topic subject, it is interesting how
> frequently it comes up.
Politics is the blue cheese of debate, it overwhelms all other flavours :)
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:50:46 PM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wr
On 30 Oct 2013, at 12:05, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb
wrote:
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got
horribly
distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of Übermensch
is a
human
On 30 Oct 2013, at 00:17, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
To be sure, I don't like the idea of Übermensch.
At least we know there is no Übermachine.
There is just a universal baby god (the universal person/machine)
But this is how I see the
On 29 Oct 2013, at 23:26, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/29/2013 7:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Also with comp, consciousness is NOT a product of the mind. that's
still too much an aristotelian way to express the "identity"
thesis. Consciousness is not physical, it is the mental state of
person ass
Ok, by me, although for an off-topic subject, it is interesting how
frequently it comes up.
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:50:46 PM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
>
> Brent and Craig,
>
> Politics are typically a trigger for endless off-topic discussions. I
> respect your opinions, but maybe we
Brent and Craig,
Politics are typically a trigger for endless off-topic discussions. I
respect your opinions, but maybe we should avoid this stuff.
Telmo.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:31 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 10/30/2013 4:05 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meeker
On 10/30/2013 4:05 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got horribly
distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of Übermensch is a
human that tran
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:05:47 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb >
> wrote:
> > On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> >
> > But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got horribly
> > distorted by subsequent political
On 29 Oct 2013, at 19:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Depressingly, until the
middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all
human
beings are people with equal rights.
That's a very recent idea, indeed.
It's so recent that it's well into
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:51 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
> But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got horribly
> distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of Übermensch is a
> human that transcends the illusion and becomes aware
On 10/29/2013 4:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
But this is how I see the concept of Übermensch. The idea got horribly
distorted by subsequent political events. The ideal of Übermensch is a
human that transcends the illusion and becomes aware of it's true (1p)
nature. I also see it as close to Buddhi
On 30 October 2013 14:22, meekerdb wrote:
> On 10/29/2013 4:02 PM, LizR wrote:
>
> On 30 October 2013 07:53, meekerdb wrote:
>
>> On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>> Depressingly, until the
>> middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all human
>> beings are p
On 10/29/2013 4:02 PM, LizR wrote:
On 30 October 2013 07:53, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
wrote:
On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Depressingly, until the
middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all human
beings are people with equal rig
That article is very interesting and show how little we know and worst of
all, how little we realize how little we know, by the way.
2013/10/28 Craig Weinberg
>
> http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
>
> Dendrites, the branch-like projections of neurons,
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:22, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alberto G. Corona
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know a single concept of people
>>>
>>> I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I
>>>
On 30 October 2013 07:53, meekerdb wrote:
> On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> Depressingly, until the
> middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all human
> beings are people with equal rights.
>
>
> That's a very recent idea, indeed.
>
>
> It's so recent that i
On 10/29/2013 7:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Also with comp, consciousness is NOT a product of the mind. that's still too much an
aristotelian way to express the "identity" thesis. Consciousness is not physical, it is
the mental state of person associated to machines, when those person develop *s
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:11:56 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 29 Oct 2013, at 17:07, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
>
> What are the 8 hypostases? I've seen this referred to a few other times on
> this list and have never really known what it refers to.
>
>
> It is eight intensional var
On 10/29/2013 9:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Depressingly, until the
middle of the XX century there was no general consensus that all human
beings are people with equal rights.
That's a very recent idea, indeed.
It's so recent that it's well into the future. There are large parts of the Eart
On 10/29/2013 8:30 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I´m not atacking you. I simply I like to talk with people, and for this purpose is
necessary to share a clear definition of concepts.
However, Telmo, If you don´t think so, then of course I´m attacking your position. But
not for much time because e
On 29 Oct 2013, at 17:07, freqflyer07281972 wrote:
What are the 8 hypostases? I've seen this referred to a few other
times on this list and have never really known what it refers to.
It is eight intensional variants of Gödel's arithmetical predicate,
that all self-referentially correct mac
ked to a machine
> Just to keep my mouth from spouting junk
> Must have took me for a fool
> When they chucked me out of school
> 'Cause the teacher knew I had the funk
>
>
> :)
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruno Marchal
On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:22, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alberto G. Corona > wrote:
I know a single concept of people
I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I
manage
(either philosophical or not)
Have they rights?
This is a very good
What are the 8 hypostases? I've seen this referred to a few other times on
this list and have never really known what it refers to.
thanks
dan
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:30:26 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday,
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> I´m not atacking you. I simply I like to talk with people, and for this
> purpose is necessary to share a clear definition of concepts.
> However, Telmo, If you don´t think so, then of course I´m attacking your
> position. But not for muc
, October 29, 2013 12:01 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the
brain
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:20, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
I read, somewhere, Professor Marchal, that it was the "spindle cells" in the
b
I´m not atacking you. I simply I like to talk with people, and for this
purpose is necessary to share a clear definition of concepts.
However, Telmo, If you don´t think so, then of course I´m attacking your
position. But not for much time because even attacking with words becomes
impossible with pe
On 29 Oct 2013, at 14:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:08:16 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> The problem with modernity is precisely the confusion and madness (and I may
> say lack of intellectual strenght) of this fluidity, ever depending on
> audiences and personal interest that makes today amoebas to have rights ...
> and t
The problem with modernity is precisely the confusion and madness (and I
may say lack of intellectual strenght) of this fluidity, ever depending on
audiences and personal interest that makes today amoebas to have rights ...
and tomorrow morning we can massacrate people because at last, they are
li
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> I know a single concept of people
>
> I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I manage
> (either philosophical or not)
>
> Have they rights?
This is a very good question which, in fact, serves well to illust
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:08:16 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the
>> molecular leve
I know a single concept of people
I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I manage
(either philosophical or not)
Have they rights?
2013/10/29 Telmo Menezes
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alberto G. Corona
> wrote:
> > Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and molecules lack self-referential
> means, like quarks.
>
> Then cows are Nietzchian superpeople. That disqualifies half of mi fridge's
> food.
You can't just mix two unrelated philosophical concept
*Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and molecules lack self-referential
means, like quarks. *
Then cows are Nietzchian superpeople. That disqualifies half of mi fridge's
food.
2013/10/29 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:5
On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the
molecular level, and should include the glial cells, which in my
opinion (from diverse reading) handle t
chal
To: everything-list
Sent: Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: Neuroscientists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in
the brain
On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
Dendrites, the bran
On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the
> molecular level, and should include the glial cells, which in my opinion
> (from diverse reading) handle to information.
>
> I also defend the idea t
entists discover new 'mini-neural computer' in the brain
On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
Dendrites, the branch-like projections of neurons, were once thought to be
passive wiring in the bra
On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-10-neuroscientists-mini-neural-brain.html
Dendrites, the branch-like projections of neurons, were once thought
to be passive wiring in the brain. But now researchers at the
University of North Carolina at Ch
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