[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Robert Gimbel
(snip) Doug died a few years ago of liver cancer. Debbie donated all of Doug's millions to the TM Movement. She then joined the TM Mother Divine Program. Mother Divine is a convent-like program, but the women meditate about six hours per day. They become very soft spoken and spacey.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last thing a person needs is transcending when they are decompensating and the ego is overwhelmed with primary process impulses. But unfortunately the TMO will not listen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote: As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and depressive disorders, Dr. Pete, I thought it was supposed to be an effortless technique for the reduction of stress in general--that's what I remember. I don't recall hearing anything about anxiety or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread llundrub
If Debbie Henning went nuts I'm very sorry to hear it. She was a great person. Still is, I'm sure. - Original Message - From: bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread llundrub
Sometimes sensitive people just have mental breakdowns. Does anyone know if Michael Richards, has cut back on his 'Sidhi Program'? R.G. R.G. I had what I have decided is a nervous breakdown at one job where I walked out. I'm a tough guy. Shit happens. Best if people allow others to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Peter
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote: As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and depressive disorders, Dr. Pete, I thought it was supposed to be an effortless technique for the reduction of stress in general--that's what I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: The last thing a person needs is transcending when they are decompensating and the ego is overwhelmed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote: As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and depressive disorders, Dr. Pete, I thought it was supposed to be an effortless technique for the reduction of stress in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 27, 2006, at 8:58 AM, Peter wrote: --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Peter wrote: As I just posted, TM is great for anxiety and depressive disorders, Dr. Pete, I thought it was supposed to be an effortless technique for the reduction of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
Lsoma wrote: ...where are you getting this kind of information from? From the informants on this forum?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread Lsoma
Don't be a jerk please. Someone stated that Debbie Henning has been admitted to a mental institution. Just commenting about someone's personal life because its on this forum is not a good enough reason to respond. Making disparaging remarks about someone is grounds for legal problems. We

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread Vaj
On Nov 26, 2006, at 7:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be a jerk please. Someone stated that Debbie Henning has been admitted to a mental institu Now there's a surprise. Well at least he didn't poison her.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 26, 2006, at 7:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be a jerk please. Someone stated that Debbie Henning has been admitted to a mental institu Now there's a surprise. Well at least he didn't poison

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 26, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Jason Spock wrote: But, TM is a Scientific technique practiced for thousands of years by Vedic Seers. LOL. Have you been readin' them thar Vedic comic books again Jase? The only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 26, 2006, at 7:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be a jerk please. Someone stated that Debbie Henning has been admitted to a mental institu Now there's a surprise. Well at least he didn't poison

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 26, 2006, at 7:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be a jerk please. Someone stated that Debbie Henning has been admitted to a mental institu Now there's a surprise. Well at least he didn't poison

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Nov 26, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Lsoma@ wrote: Don't be a jerk please. Someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-11-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last thing a person needs is transcending when they are decompensating and the ego is overwhelmed with primary process impulses. But unfortunately the TMO will not listen to any mental health professionals, even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The ultimate form of this enforced ignorance I'm talking about, of course, is when someone points out that the diehard TMer really doesn't know very much, they *admit* that they don't know very much, and then they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
So any who disagree will be lying? There is another possiblity. Wanna guess what that is? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: TM is not that unique in its process. It is called yogic meditation in other circles. The actual use of the bijas particularly

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop Chandola was taught to meditate by Swami Shantananda Saraswati, and he's under

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a Sparaig, or a Peter Klutz, or a Judy Stein? They just talk. That's all they'll EVER do. Even now, when someone is willing to *pay* them to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you might have been told on your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a Sparaig, or a Peter Klutz, or a Judy Stein? They just talk. That's all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- 'Shhhhh...(Let's make a deal!)

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snip) TMO sleazy, or in some cases simply hardball business methods (not a crime, and done by many businesses -- MMY was a very hard and creative negotiator -- a postive trait in many businesses) is quite a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous times. What I don't understand is why nobody ever threatened to sue the SOBs. That's deception, pure and simple. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread vajradhatu108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So any who disagree will be lying? There is another possiblity. Wanna guess what that is? Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:08 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous times. What I don't understand is why nobody ever threatened to sue the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [...] When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus showing up for a course, or a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require his/her students to kneel or they wouldn't be taught, not even the Indian ones teaching in India. I'm also wondering what the instructions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually--as with TM where an effort must be taken to sit down to meditate and close eyes, maintain mindfullness to return to mantra, etc., etc. The first effort--sitting down and closing the eyes--is irrelevant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This entire group of people who have never tried any other technique of meditation or self discovery but TM, many of whom have been too afraid even to *read* about any other technique but TM, and yet they consider

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:08 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 8:00 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: I've heard about thispolicy numerous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip This entire group of people who have never tried any other technique of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: TM is not that unique in its process. It is called yogic meditation in other circles. The actual use of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require his/her students to kneel or they wouldn't be taught, not even the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, the entire range of know- ledge I ever read or was exposed to in the TM movement was just that -- A, B and C. Since leaving the TM movement and spending almost 30 years doing a lot of reading in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread Bhairitu
jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, the entire range of know- ledge I ever read or was exposed to in the TM movement was just that -- A, B and C. Since leaving the TM movement and spending almost 30 years doing a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, vajradhatu108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require his/her students to kneel or they wouldn't be taught, not even the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I'm glad you got your credit redeemed, John, sorry that it took such an effort and that you were treated so shabbily. Experiences like yours pretty are pretty much along the lines of others I have heard of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: snip I find it hard to believe that ANY TM teacher was ever instructed to require

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing compared to the issues found in people who practice Kundalini techniques. How many TMers grab butcher knives and castrate themselves? I know of one documented case in the movement. With the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before deciding to become TM teachers. and that THAT is what all the legends spring from: super-heavy unstressing of heavy dopers. Detox isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie. And this is Sparaig, who *still* hasn't gotten that what this admission means, if true, is that *his* teachers were taught to lie to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads you to challenge that statement about what teachers were taught? Neither

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teacherwere taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before deciding to become TM teachers. and that THAT is what all the legends

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie. And this is Sparaig, who *still* hasn't gotten that what this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip But Sparaig won't believe this, and he similarly won't believe any other TM teacher who chimes in and answers his question with a hearty Yes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks, Curtis! That's way interesting. The Finnish translation is, to say the least, rather lame; something like those, who have chosen not to marry. The Latin goes like qui se ipsos castraverunt... (those who castrate themselves), and the German die sich selbst verschnitten haben um des

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final word. We have both been down this road before. Of course the many examples of MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
Just a few quick replies, even though we ALL know she'll do nothing with them but nitpick and claim Why those aren't really lies...they're just an alternative way of saying things. :-) :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Spraig, Your dismissive answer does not hide your ignorance about hypnosis. TM researchers fixation on proving that the TM state is unique is part of their marketing hype. Hypnosis researchers do not have the same agenda, so they may not just focus on the variables TM researchers use to prove

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With a history of Castrati singers man's casual attitude towards another man's manhood is dark. This verse inspired a whole cult which swept through prisons in the South US to take him at his word. I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Curtis! That's way interesting. The Finnish translation is, to say the least, rather lame; something like those, who have chosen not to marry. The Latin goes like qui se ipsos castraverunt... (those

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread curtisdeltablues
Yeah, that is really taking one(or two) for the team! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: With a history of Castrati singers man's casual attitude towards another man's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before deciding to become TM teachers. and that THAT is what all the legends

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie Henning

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spraig, Your dismissive answer does not hide your ignorance about hypnosis. TM researchers fixation on proving that the TM state is unique is part of their marketing hype. Hypnosis researchers do not have the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: Remember: this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a few quick replies, even though we ALL know she'll do nothing with them but nitpick and claim Why those aren't really lies...they're just an alternative way of saying things. :-) :-) :-) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly can't and have no clue what you're talking about...and, hey, I've got ALOT of complaints about the TMO and MMY but your litany is foreign to me. If you worked on National or International staff this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Peter wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After my period as a State Coordinator, I was asked to take over Barney Potratz's job at National while he was away on his sidhis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a few quick replies, even though we ALL know she'll do nothing with them but nitpick and claim Why those aren't really lies...they're just an alternative way of saying things. :-) :-) :-) It's hugely ironic for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: My guess is that TM teachers in the 60's and 70's were heavy into drugs before

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the final

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hugely ironic for Barry, who is a documented chronic, incorrigible liar, to take such a tough stance on people who say things not quite the way he would say them and declare them to be liars. And it must be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: It's hugely ironic for Barry, who is a documented chronic, incorrigible liar, to take such a tough stance on people who say things not quite the way

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teachers were taught to lie Was it your experience of TTC that leads you to challenge that statement about what teachers were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick that TM teacherwere taught to lie Was it your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Remember: this is the guy who told

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither Sparaig nor Judy Stein ever attended TTC. The things they parrot here as if they were Great Cosmic Truths are things that were taught to them by people just like us, who had been trained to lie to them by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't know about Sparaig, but it seems clear that Judy has never *had* that desire to help others, so I don't think it would ever have become relevant. Of course, that's only clear in Barry's increasingly sick

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop Chandola was taught to meditate by Swami Shantananda Saraswati, and he's under the impression that he learned TM or something extremely similar to it. TM is not that unique in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither Sparaig nor Judy Stein ever attended TTC. The things they parrot here as if they were Great Cosmic Truths are things that were taught to them by people just like us, who had been trained to lie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sparaig wrote: [...] Who they? Annoop Chandola was taught to meditate by Swami Shantananda Saraswati, and he's under the impression that he learned TM or something extremely similar to it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: I approved everyone who ever applied at the centers I worked at. Several of them were blackballed by other teachers, for greivous sins like reading off-the-program books, living together while

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I mean, just look at the alternative, all the people on this forum who pretend to be spiritual and pretend to be gung-ho TMers, but who couldn't walk their talk on a bet. When are you *ever* going to see a Nablus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread Bhairitu
wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Neither Sparaig nor Judy Stein ever attended TTC. The things they parrot here as if they were Great

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread hermandan0
OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you might have been told on your courses. Nor am I speaking about the lack of integrity in the TMO that is so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 19, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Peter wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: After my period as a State Coordinator, I was asked

[FairfieldLife] Re: Debbie henning -- keep anonymous

2006-09-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I'll jump in here, not for the sake of being argumentative, but just to relate my experience. I became a teacher much later than all of you pioneers, so I cannot speak to what you might have been told on your

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