[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. Given the Post Count mechanism screwup, I'm not completely sure but I think that this is my last post of the week. And, as such, it would probably behoove me to say something intelligent and uplifting in response to one of our more thoughtful members here. Instead, I'm going to respond to John again. So John, might I propose a commentary to your brilliant observation on the vedic texts above? The entirety of my commentary is, Well, duh. If I could control the inhalation and exhalation of my breath by keeping them going, I could live forever, too. So could you. There ain't no adept or yoga in the equation at all. :-) Well, duh. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. Actually, this part is true. Maru lives in a remote cave in the Himalayas with Maitreya (yes, Nabby's Maitreya), where the two of them have a fairly bitch- slap-meets-bitch-slap homosexual relationship. Their spats can be heard from miles away, as can their lovemaking when they run out of K-Y lubricant. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. And then *everyone* is going to have to invest in K-Y lubricant. The resulting era will be known as the Sun Buggery Yuga, or the Age of Enlightened Bendover. :-) I'm just funnin' wit ya, John, to see if you've got a sense of humor about all of this. I would suggest that if you don't, you should probably work on that. I *understand* that you probably wrote your post out of a desire to inspire others here with the same sense of awe and wonder that you felt when reading this fairy story (so to speak), and there are probably a few folks here who will feel that same sense of awe and wonder. You had them at According to certain vedic texts. Say that magic phrase and some are willing to throw common sense out the window and believe anything that follows without question. They are willing to believe stories about living forever, about monkey men leaping from India to Sri Lanka, about big blue chauffeurs getting to decide who lives and who dies, about green flowing soma, and about cows. Lots and lots of stories about cows. But others of us here -- I would suggest many of them firmly still in the I like TM and continue to practice it no matter what camp -- seem to be able to view these fairy tales *as* fairy tales, and enjoy them as such, without feeling the need to believe them as literal fact. You seem to feel the need to believe them as literal fact, the same way that Jim Jim (what *is* it about guys from the South with two first names like Jim Bob or Bubba Sue, anyway?) seems to believe that the Bible is literal fact. So I'm going to pose a few questions to you. You may answer them or not, as you see fit, but I've really just got to ask, because I find your position in all of this as curious as Jim Jim's. First, do you really *believe* that one of Ramachandra's descendents named Maru is still alive and kicking today and living somewhere in India? If so, what makes you believe this? Have you seen any *other* examples of people living forever? If this guy pulled off living forever by being an adept in yoga and Maharishi (obviously) didn't, does that make Maharishi *less* than an adept in yoga? What is the *value* of living forever? ( To the world, that is. I can imagine that if one is ego-bound enough to *want* to live forever it has a value to the self. ) If you were secretly given the location of Ramachandra's descendent, and were to go see him, would you believe the things he told you just because he said them, and he's so freakin' old? ( I mean, Roger Moore just turned 80, but I don't see him as any font of eternal wisdom, even if he did play James Bond for a while. ) If you were to go to see Ramachandra's descendent and the first thing he asked you was, Did you bring your K-Y?, would you have second thoughts about the eternal truth to be found in the vedic texts? And on that note, I think that's 50 and I'm outa here. Jai and away...
[FairfieldLife] A young boy learns about women
Mathias learns about women, in this beautiful 2006 short film by Rasmus Heise. Contains some brief nudity. Film: http://rasmusheise.dk/LM/
[FairfieldLife] Bose [baw-seh]-Einstein condensate and PC?
It seems to me some of the properties of Bose-Einstein condensate resemble those of Pure Consciousness (turiiya == caturtha)... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose_Einstein_condensate
[FairfieldLife] Re: A young boy learns about women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Mathias learns about women, in this beautiful 2006 short film by Rasmus Heise. Contains some brief nudity. Film: http://rasmusheise.dk/LM/ From what I've seen of it, it's great. Unfortunately, the download stalled out about 2/3 the way through. I then tried downloading the actual Quicktime .MOV file: http://rasmusheise.dk/NewFiles/LM.mov It stalled out, too. My connection speed is 5183 kbps this morning, so it's not likely a bandwidth issue on my end.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
i recall in Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda mentions a saint living in the himalayas who is 1,000's of years old as well. there is also mention of a saint who was about 350 years old, though i don't recall where i read about him. even Tat Wala Baba, who was assassinated at the age of 80 or so was said to look only about 35. i am ok with going when i go, though it is remarkable these stories of those who come to earth with the express purpose of showing us that even human life need not be as short as it commonly is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. JR
[FairfieldLife] Re: A young boy learns about women
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Mathias learns about women, in this beautiful 2006 short film by Rasmus Heise. Contains some brief nudity. Film: http://rasmusheise.dk/LM/ From what I've seen of it, it's great. Unfortunately, the download stalled out about 2/3 the way through. I then tried downloading the actual Quicktime .MOV file: http://rasmusheise.dk/NewFiles/LM.mov It stalled out, too. My connection speed is 5183 kbps this morning, so it's not likely a bandwidth issue on my end. Try letting it fully load before watching. That's what I did and it worked fine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
sounds like someone needs a hug.:) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. Given the Post Count mechanism screwup, I'm not completely sure but I think that this is my last post of the week. And, as such, it would probably behoove me to say something intelligent and uplifting in response to one of our more thoughtful members here. Instead, I'm going to respond to John again. So John, might I propose a commentary to your brilliant observation on the vedic texts above? The entirety of my commentary is, Well, duh. If I could control the inhalation and exhalation of my breath by keeping them going, I could live forever, too. So could you. There ain't no adept or yoga in the equation at all. :-) Well, duh. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. Actually, this part is true. Maru lives in a remote cave in the Himalayas with Maitreya (yes, Nabby's Maitreya), where the two of them have a fairly bitch- slap-meets-bitch-slap homosexual relationship. Their spats can be heard from miles away, as can their lovemaking when they run out of K-Y lubricant. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. And then *everyone* is going to have to invest in K-Y lubricant. The resulting era will be known as the Sun Buggery Yuga, or the Age of Enlightened Bendover. :-) I'm just funnin' wit ya, John, to see if you've got a sense of humor about all of this. I would suggest that if you don't, you should probably work on that. I *understand* that you probably wrote your post out of a desire to inspire others here with the same sense of awe and wonder that you felt when reading this fairy story (so to speak), and there are probably a few folks here who will feel that same sense of awe and wonder. You had them at According to certain vedic texts. Say that magic phrase and some are willing to throw common sense out the window and believe anything that follows without question. They are willing to believe stories about living forever, about monkey men leaping from India to Sri Lanka, about big blue chauffeurs getting to decide who lives and who dies, about green flowing soma, and about cows. Lots and lots of stories about cows. But others of us here -- I would suggest many of them firmly still in the I like TM and continue to practice it no matter what camp -- seem to be able to view these fairy tales *as* fairy tales, and enjoy them as such, without feeling the need to believe them as literal fact. You seem to feel the need to believe them as literal fact, the same way that Jim Jim (what *is* it about guys from the South with two first names like Jim Bob or Bubba Sue, anyway?) seems to believe that the Bible is literal fact. So I'm going to pose a few questions to you. You may answer them or not, as you see fit, but I've really just got to ask, because I find your position in all of this as curious as Jim Jim's. First, do you really *believe* that one of Ramachandra's descendents named Maru is still alive and kicking today and living somewhere in India? If so, what makes you believe this? Have you seen any *other* examples of people living forever? If this guy pulled off living forever by being an adept in yoga and Maharishi (obviously) didn't, does that make Maharishi *less* than an adept in yoga? What is the *value* of living forever? ( To the world, that is. I can imagine that if one is ego-bound enough to *want* to live forever it has a value to the self. ) If you were secretly given the location of Ramachandra's descendent, and were to go see him, would you believe the things he told you just because he said them, and he's so freakin' old? ( I mean, Roger Moore just turned 80, but I don't see him as any font of eternal wisdom, even if he did play James Bond for a while. ) If you were to go to see Ramachandra's descendent and the first thing he asked you was, Did you bring your K-Y?, would you have second thoughts about the eternal truth to be found in the vedic texts? And on that note, I think that's 50 and I'm outa here. Jai and away...
[FairfieldLife] Summary of final stimulus package
United States Congress The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 Creating Jobs, Supporting the States and Investing in Our Country's Future The United States is facing its deepest economic crisis since the Great Depression, one that calls for swift, bold action. The goals of this legislation are the same as they have been from day one: to strengthen the economy now and invest in our country's future. This legislation will create and save jobs; help state and local governments with their budget shortfalls to prevent deep cuts in basic services such as health, education, and law enforcement; cut taxes for working families and invest in the long-term health of our economy. We do all of this with unprecedented accountability, oversight and transparency so the American people know their money is being invested responsibly. To accomplish these goals, The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provides $311 billion in appropriations, including the following critical investments: Investments in Infrastructure and Science - $120 billion Investments in Health - $14.2 billion Investments in Education and Training - $105.9 billion Investments in Energy, including over $30 billion in infrastructure - $37.5 billion Helping Americans Hit Hardest by the Economic Crisis - $24.3 billion Law Enforcement, Oversight, Other Programs - $7.8 billion Investments in Infrastructure and Science include: Infrastructure Improvements - $7.2 billion for Broadband to increase broadband access and usage in unserved and underserved areas of the Nation, which will better position the U.S. for economic growth, innovation, and job creation. - $2.75 billion for the Department of Homeland Security to secure the homeland and promote economic activity, including $1 billion for airport baggage and checkpoint security, $430 million for construction of border points of entry, $210 million for construction of fire stations, $300 million for port, transit, and rail security, $280 million for border security technology and communication, and $240 million for the Coast Guard. - $4.6 billion in funding for the Corps of Engineers. - $1.2 billion for VA hospital and medical facility construction and improvements, long-term care facilities for veterans, and improvements at VA national cemeteries. - $3.1 billion for repair, restoration and improvement of public facilities at on public and tribal lands. - $4.2 billion for Facilities Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization to be used to invest in energy efficiency projects and to improve the repair and modernization of Department of Defense facilities to include Defense Health facilities. - $2.33 billion for Department of Defense Facilities including quality of life and family-friendly military improvement projects such as family housing, hospitals, and child care centers. - $2.25 billion through HOME and the Low Income Housing Tax Credit program to fill financing gaps caused by the credit freeze and get stalled housing development projects moving. - $1 billion for the Community Development Block Grant program for community and economic development projects including housing and services for those hit hard by tough economic times. - $1 billion for the Bureau of Reclamation to provide clean, reliable drinking water to rural areas and to ensure adequate water supply to western localities impacted by drought. Transportation - $27.5 billion is included for highway investments - $8.4 billion for investments in public transportation. - $1.5 billion for competitive grants to state and local governments for transportation investments. - $1.3 billion for investments in our air transportation system. - $9.3 billion for investments in rail transportation, including Amtrak, High Speed and Intercity Rail. Public Housing - $4 billion to the public housing capital fund to enable local public housing agencies to address a $32 billion backlog in capital needs -- especially those improving energy efficiency in aging buildings. - $2 billion for full-year payments to owners receiving Section 8 project-based rental assistance. - $2 billion for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes. - $1.5 billion for homeless prevention activities, which will be sent out to states, cities and local governments through the emergency shelter grant formula. - $250 million is included for energy retrofitting and green investments in HUD-assisted housing projects. Environmental Clean-Up/Clean Water - $6 billion is directed towards environmental cleanup of former weapon production and energy research sites. - $6 billion for local clean and drinking water infrastructure improvements. - $1.2 billion for EPA's nationwide environmental cleanup programs, including Superfund. - $1.38 billion to support $3.8 billion in loans and grants for needed water and waste disposal facilities in rural areas. Science - $1 billion total for NASA. - $3 billion total for National Science Foundation
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
Clearly, Vaj is trying to compensate for the mediocre results of his Garab Dorje/Norbu program by making false and twisted claims about the programs which really do work. --I just outright object on the principle of guru bashing as a bad practice altogether. Please stop it now. I can offer no threat to make my words sink in but I accept these words above as proof that ignorance itself is its own pay back. To read the absurdities in the whole stinking topic and the offended outcries is like taking barf for oatmeal. So few people here have any real appreciateion of anything. I mean, there are some here who can appreciate things. But then so many also seem like Christian Puritans. What the hell is all this blather proving exactly. Leave Namkhai Norbu's name entirely out of this discussion please. You offend others than just Vaj. Insult Garab Dorge, insult your own very essence. How low idiotic is that? There is no conceivable difference between Advaita and Dzogchen since neither deals with a conceptual state. All we have are footprints, and some notes from some few interested practitioners. No other's opinions have any bearing on anything. The intellectual trappings of each system in each system try to be overcome from within and they are not always successful. While some people here have excellent grasp of many systems I have yet to see anyone who has synthesized and become intregral. Able to understand ALL the teachings. Without bullshit and name calling and negative insinuation, as if someone who does one path or another is a whore or something. Frankly I have known some nicer whores that some of you here, but that's just neither here nor there really. Some men and women learn compassion faster and give more on their backs then some give on their meditation cushions. And subsequent actions. Of course I'm nobody to talk as I was a stupid TM freak myself for quite a long time and yet it was that fact that showed me that TMO was going the way of fertilizer. I am sure it won't surprise anyone here that I stand up for Vaj's intellectual rigor as I know that he knows more than most of you, since he has been around for a long very long time and known many gurus. You all really have no idea who he is at all. As for many of you others, I don't know you, I only know your words, and when you insult my guru you are inviting me to leave this place. Again. Cause I won't abide it.
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
hey Kirk, all the poster said was that the guru's programs produced mediocre results, as evidenced by the behavior of one of his followers. hardly guru bashing. and you have let this same follower shit all over the Maharishi on a regular basis. quit being a hypocrite and whiner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Clearly, Vaj is trying to compensate for the mediocre results of his Garab Dorje/Norbu program by making false and twisted claims about the programs which really do work. --I just outright object on the principle of guru bashing as a bad practice altogether. Please stop it now. I can offer no threat to make my words sink in but I accept these words above as proof that ignorance itself is its own pay back. To read the absurdities in the whole stinking topic and the offended outcries is like taking barf for oatmeal. So few people here have any real appreciateion of anything. I mean, there are some here who can appreciate things. But then so many also seem like Christian Puritans. What the hell is all this blather proving exactly. Leave Namkhai Norbu's name entirely out of this discussion please. You offend others than just Vaj. Insult Garab Dorge, insult your own very essence. How low idiotic is that? There is no conceivable difference between Advaita and Dzogchen since neither deals with a conceptual state. All we have are footprints, and some notes from some few interested practitioners. No other's opinions have any bearing on anything. The intellectual trappings of each system in each system try to be overcome from within and they are not always successful. While some people here have excellent grasp of many systems I have yet to see anyone who has synthesized and become intregral. Able to understand ALL the teachings. Without bullshit and name calling and negative insinuation, as if someone who does one path or another is a whore or something. Frankly I have known some nicer whores that some of you here, but that's just neither here nor there really. Some men and women learn compassion faster and give more on their backs then some give on their meditation cushions. And subsequent actions. Of course I'm nobody to talk as I was a stupid TM freak myself for quite a long time and yet it was that fact that showed me that TMO was going the way of fertilizer. I am sure it won't surprise anyone here that I stand up for Vaj's intellectual rigor as I know that he knows more than most of you, since he has been around for a long very long time and known many gurus. You all really have no idea who he is at all. As for many of you others, I don't know you, I only know your words, and when you insult my guru you are inviting me to leave this place. Again. Cause I won't abide it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has transcended all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks about. i ask Vaj again- what are you doing here on FFL? I invited Vaj here about two years ago as I became interested in dzogchen and I wanted someone here who could support me. I didn't care for the gangland jumping in ceremony that goes on here amongst all the separate cults. Of course I needed someone on my side, so that's where he came from. As to why he remained, he obviously likes you guys and likes it here and he feels that he is educating you people. For instance, two years ago not a single person here had even heard of Dzogchen, and now people talk about rainbow bodies like it's a done deal. See, Vaj has had a profound effect. Certainly probably more profound to most than Share Intl or Scientology, or triple distilled preboiled virgin water from Mars. Anyone who speaks at all to the essence of the bodhisattva intention for liberating all beings is only doing good, whether others are able to perceive that or not. I personally am more sorry for what he puts up with here than what he puts out. But that is his choice to remain. You know, every ceremony I have ever been at has screaming babies somewhere in the audience. No, I am not talking about Vaj. I am talking about those of you who have no capacity to control your mind and who always act according to habit and emotional turmoil. You guys might TM yourselves to Brahmaloka but, well, but, actually, good luck to you all. Good luck. Maharishi always spoke of 'merit' and deserving power being the real cause of liberation or not. None of this interflensing is going to be helping anyone very much. Now or ever.
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
you think your buddy Vaj is pure as the driven snow, eh? look a little closer. that's yellow snow, bub. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has transcended all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks about. i ask Vaj again- what are you doing here on FFL? I invited Vaj here about two years ago as I became interested in dzogchen and I wanted someone here who could support me. I didn't care for the gangland jumping in ceremony that goes on here amongst all the separate cults. Of course I needed someone on my side, so that's where he came from. As to why he remained, he obviously likes you guys and likes it here and he feels that he is educating you people. For instance, two years ago not a single person here had even heard of Dzogchen, and now people talk about rainbow bodies like it's a done deal. See, Vaj has had a profound effect. Certainly probably more profound to most than Share Intl or Scientology, or triple distilled preboiled virgin water from Mars. Anyone who speaks at all to the essence of the bodhisattva intention for liberating all beings is only doing good, whether others are able to perceive that or not. I personally am more sorry for what he puts up with here than what he puts out. But that is his choice to remain. You know, every ceremony I have ever been at has screaming babies somewhere in the audience. No, I am not talking about Vaj. I am talking about those of you who have no capacity to control your mind and who always act according to habit and emotional turmoil. You guys might TM yourselves to Brahmaloka but, well, but, actually, good luck to you all. Good luck. Maharishi always spoke of 'merit' and deserving power being the real cause of liberation or not. None of this interflensing is going to be helping anyone very much. Now or ever.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint? --- On Fri, 2/13/09, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs ) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 9:41 AM you think your buddy Vaj is pure as the driven snow, eh? look a little closer. that's yellow snow, bub. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has transcended all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks about. i ask Vaj again- what are you doing here on FFL? I invited Vaj here about two years ago as I became interested in dzogchen and I wanted someone here who could support me. I didn't care for the gangland jumping in ceremony that goes on here amongst all the separate cults. Of course I needed someone on my side, so that's where he came from. As to why he remained, he obviously likes you guys and likes it here and he feels that he is educating you people. For instance, two years ago not a single person here had even heard of Dzogchen, and now people talk about rainbow bodies like it's a done deal. See, Vaj has had a profound effect. Certainly probably more profound to most than Share Intl or Scientology, or triple distilled preboiled virgin water from Mars. Anyone who speaks at all to the essence of the bodhisattva intention for liberating all beings is only doing good, whether others are able to perceive that or not. I personally am more sorry for what he puts up with here than what he puts out. But that is his choice to remain. You know, every ceremony I have ever been at has screaming babies somewhere in the audience. No, I am not talking about Vaj. I am talking about those of you who have no capacity to control your mind and who always act according to habit and emotional turmoil. You guys might TM yourselves to Brahmaloka but, well, but, actually, good luck to you all. Good luck. Maharishi always spoke of 'merit' and deserving power being the real cause of liberation or not. None of this interflensing is going to be helping anyone very much. Now or ever. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Summary of final stimulus package
On Feb 13, 2009, at 7:39 AM, do.rflex wrote: United States Congress The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 Thanks for posting this, flex. Makes it a lot more understandable. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
No actually there was clearly a gangbang on Vaj this morning and I find it somehow shallow. It's especially shallow to utilize any supposed guru or master to make some tawdry and inconsequential point. The poster cannot know the results of Norbu or of Garab Dorge as his words show that he felt they didn't work. That's a personal decision and one I hope he unlearns. Dzogchen is not a thing. It will never be explained to anyone. You pick it up by grace of the Dakini or your pass it by. There are some other systems which have been very much like Dzogchen in the distant past, but Sri Devi cults are perhaps the closest Hindu thing. Having a flowing and expanded Brahman awareness is what one is trying to also accomplish in Dzogchen, but it has ethical and epistimological variations from other systems as it will by nature. TM is somehow loosely related to Dzogchen at the outset by virtue of taking an angle of effortlessness. From where is the charm to make anything effortless? This is what one should be asking, and hopefully finding. I feel fortunate that I knew enough to research and find Shakti within, shakti without, clear mental aspect of dakini as guru all complete in Dzogchen. Enough. I am full. I also am a hypocrit. I feel like whining right now. I just am tired of guru/system bashing since I really am essentially rootless and I have to include all different peoples as my friends. I want to like all of you. Over about six years I have been coming here such has not been the case however as some remain permanently in the dumpster, and some people I have learned to actually really dislike and now I would never want to meet them. That's really not the way it should be in this mystical paradise of life, amongst the spiritual, or at least, spirited. My words are not false, and there's no reason for people of some Age of Enlightenment doing alot of bashing - unless it's the kind of bashing that we do really well down here NOLA. Of course in some ways the whole of TMO/Golden Domes etc is a sort of such bashing, a silent bash, if you will, with a small bite of white cake at the end. That's okay. This was enough fun at FFLife for me for one day. And I don't even have a life. - Original Message - From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs ) hey Kirk, all the poster said was that the guru's programs produced mediocre results, as evidenced by the behavior of one of his followers. hardly guru bashing. and you have let this same follower shit all over the Maharishi on a regular basis. quit being a hypocrite and whiner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Clearly, Vaj is trying to compensate for the mediocre results of his Garab Dorje/Norbu program by making false and twisted claims about the programs which really do work. --I just outright object on the principle of guru bashing as a bad practice altogether. Please stop it now. I can offer no threat to make my words sink in but I accept these words above as proof that ignorance itself is its own pay back. To read the absurdities in the whole stinking topic and the offended outcries is like taking barf for oatmeal. So few people here have any real appreciateion of anything. I mean, there are some here who can appreciate things. But then so many also seem like Christian Puritans. What the hell is all this blather proving exactly. Leave Namkhai Norbu's name entirely out of this discussion please. You offend others than just Vaj. Insult Garab Dorge, insult your own very essence. How low idiotic is that? There is no conceivable difference between Advaita and Dzogchen since neither deals with a conceptual state. All we have are footprints, and some notes from some few interested practitioners. No other's opinions have any bearing on anything. The intellectual trappings of each system in each system try to be overcome from within and they are not always successful. While some people here have excellent grasp of many systems I have yet to see anyone who has synthesized and become intregral. Able to understand ALL the teachings. Without bullshit and name calling and negative insinuation, as if someone who does one path or another is a whore or something. Frankly I have known some nicer whores that some of you here, but that's just neither here nor there really. Some men and women learn compassion faster and give more on their backs then some give on their meditation cushions. And subsequent actions. Of course I'm nobody to talk as I was a stupid TM freak myself for quite a long time and yet it was that fact that showed me that TMO was going the way of fertilizer. I am sure it won't surprise anyone here that I stand up for Vaj's intellectual rigor as I
[FairfieldLife] Re: An article from www.mcclatchydc.com
From the article MDixon posted: The president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, in a speech in Detroit Thursday, tried to put a brave face on the tough year ahead. Thomas Donohue acknowledged that big business didn't get in the stimulus bill some of the tax-relief measures it most wanted, but promised the Chamber's support. The bottom line is that at the end of the day, we're going to support the legislation. Why? Because with the markets functioning so poorly, the government is the only game in town capable of jump-starting the economy, Donohue said. = If a comparison can be made with the New Deal: The New Deal worked, worked well, and worked quickly. U.S. Gross Domestic Product 1929-1941 See chart: http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/363/Depression_GDP_output_1.gif The economy had hit rock bottom in March 1933 and then started to expand. As historian Broadus Mitchell notes, Most indexes worsened until the summer of 1932, which may be called the low point of the depression economically and psychologically.[18] Economic indicators show the economy reached nadir in the first days of March, then began a steady, sharp upward recovery. Thus the Federal Reserve Index of Industrial Production hit its lowest point of 52.8 in July 1930 (with 1935-39 = 100) and was practically unchanged at 54.3 in March 1933; however by July 1933, it reached 85.5, a dramatic rebound of 57% in four months. Recovery was steady and strong until 1937. Except for unemployment, the economy by 1937 surpassed the levels of the late 1920s. The Recession of 1937 was a temporary downturn. Private sector employment, especially in manufacturing, recovered to the level of the 1920s but failed to advance further until the war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal Total employment in the United States from 1920 to 1940, excluding farms and WPA. Data was obtained from the U.S. Census Bureau Statistical Abstracts and converted into SVG format GRAPH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Employment_Graph_-_1920_to_1940.svg === McClatchy Washington Bureau Posted on Thursday, Feb. 12, 2009 Will the stimulus actually stimulate? Economists say no By Kevin G. Hall WASHINGTON The compromise economic stimulus plan agreed to by negotiators from the House of Representatives and the Senate is short on incentives to get consumers spending again and long on social goals that won't stimulate economic activity, according to a range of respected economists. I think (doing) nothing would have been better, said Ed Yardeni, an investment analyst who's usually an optimist, in an interview with McClatchy. He argued that the plan fails to provide the right incentives to spur spending. It's unfocused. That is my problem. It is a lot of money for a lot of nickel-and- dime programs. I would have rather had a lot of money for (promoting purchase of) housing and autos . . . . Most of this plan is really, I think, aimed at stabilizing the situation and helping people get through the recession, rather than getting us out of the recession. They are actually providing less short-term stimulus by cutting back, from what I understand, some of the tax credits. Read More...
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
No, a dessert topping. On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Peter wrote: Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint?
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
a gangbang on Vaj? that's rich. howabout people here are just fed up with his arrogance and pinning all of his woes on the Maharishi? how about people calling it like it is. as for knowledge of the various schools of Buddhism, there are several here who know and have experienced far more than the fellow with the Vaj name. he is no teacher, believe me. he is a guy with issues and a funny name who quotes a lot of stuff in order to continue to hide in his tower of fundamentalist thought. wake up Kirk. you are a heartful guy, but you have conveniently closed your eyes to believe in a dream that is just that. yes, you are whining and a hypocrite. Vaj goes on and on and on, every single week, nearly daily, here for the two years you say he has been here; mishy mashy mahesh varma this and mishy mashy mahesh varma that, and at least six of us here start calling him on his bullshit, and all of of sudden you are whining and wringing your hands. as Barry would say, grow the fuck up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: No actually there was clearly a gangbang on Vaj this morning and I find it somehow shallow. It's especially shallow to utilize any supposed guru or master to make some tawdry and inconsequential point. The poster cannot know the results of Norbu or of Garab Dorge as his words show that he felt they didn't work. That's a personal decision and one I hope he unlearns. Dzogchen is not a thing. It will never be explained to anyone. You pick it up by grace of the Dakini or your pass it by. There are some other systems which have been very much like Dzogchen in the distant past, but Sri Devi cults are perhaps the closest Hindu thing. Having a flowing and expanded Brahman awareness is what one is trying to also accomplish in Dzogchen, but it has ethical and epistimological variations from other systems as it will by nature. TM is somehow loosely related to Dzogchen at the outset by virtue of taking an angle of effortlessness. From where is the charm to make anything effortless? This is what one should be asking, and hopefully finding. I feel fortunate that I knew enough to research and find Shakti within, shakti without, clear mental aspect of dakini as guru all complete in Dzogchen. Enough. I am full. I also am a hypocrit. I feel like whining right now. I just am tired of guru/system bashing since I really am essentially rootless and I have to include all different peoples as my friends. I want to like all of you. Over about six years I have been coming here such has not been the case however as some remain permanently in the dumpster, and some people I have learned to actually really dislike and now I would never want to meet them. That's really not the way it should be in this mystical paradise of life, amongst the spiritual, or at least, spirited. My words are not false, and there's no reason for people of some Age of Enlightenment doing alot of bashing - unless it's the kind of bashing that we do really well down here NOLA. Of course in some ways the whole of TMO/Golden Domes etc is a sort of such bashing, a silent bash, if you will, with a small bite of white cake at the end. That's okay. This was enough fun at FFLife for me for one day. And I don't even have a life. - Original Message - From: enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs ) hey Kirk, all the poster said was that the guru's programs produced mediocre results, as evidenced by the behavior of one of his followers. hardly guru bashing. and you have let this same follower shit all over the Maharishi on a regular basis. quit being a hypocrite and whiner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: Clearly, Vaj is trying to compensate for the mediocre results of his Garab Dorje/Norbu program by making false and twisted claims about the programs which really do work. --I just outright object on the principle of guru bashing as a bad practice altogether. Please stop it now. I can offer no threat to make my words sink in but I accept these words above as proof that ignorance itself is its own pay back. To read the absurdities in the whole stinking topic and the offended outcries is like taking barf for oatmeal. So few people here have any real appreciateion of anything. I mean, there are some here who can appreciate things. But then so many also seem like Christian Puritans. What the hell is all this blather proving exactly. Leave Namkhai Norbu's name entirely out of this discussion please. You offend others than just Vaj. Insult Garab Dorge, insult your own very essence. How low idiotic is that? There is
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
i thought it was a dog turd, but whatever, different strokes, right?:) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: No, a dessert topping. On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Peter wrote: Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint?
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Kirk wrote: a good friend of mine just began TM and already he has transcended all of this surface-y stuff that Vaj talks about. i ask Vaj again- what are you doing here on FFL? I invited Vaj here about two years ago as I became interested in dzogchen and I wanted someone here who could support me. I didn't care for the gangland jumping in ceremony that goes on here amongst all the separate cults. Of course I needed someone on my side, so that's where he came from. As to why he remained, he obviously likes you guys and likes it here and he feels that he is educating you people. For instance, two years ago not a single person here had even heard of Dzogchen, and now people talk about rainbow bodies like it's a done deal. See, Vaj has had a profound effect. Certainly probably more profound to most than Share Intl or Scientology, or triple distilled preboiled virgin water from Mars. Anyone who speaks at all to the essence of the bodhisattva intention for liberating all beings is only doing good, whether others are able to perceive that or not. I personally am more sorry for what he puts up with here than what he puts out. But that is his choice to remain. You know, every ceremony I have ever been at has screaming babies somewhere in the audience. No, I am not talking about Vaj. I am talking about those of you who have no capacity to control your mind and who always act according to habit and emotional turmoil. You guys might TM yourselves to Brahmaloka but, well, but, actually, good luck to you all. Good luck. Maharishi always spoke of 'merit' and deserving power being the real cause of liberation or not. None of this interflensing is going to be helping anyone very much. Now or ever. Thanks Kirk. It's funny, whenever someone brings up a topic and I comment honestly--not based on image or a publicity--this truth seems to rankle some who hold onto the image. I think we should try to see our teachers and practices as they really are and that may vary from how they are hyped or advertised. You see the same thing whenever Paul Mason or John Knapp post here. Because their descriptions vary from the airbrushed image and the sales brochure people just fly off the handle. It's as if painting a true and honest picture must be resisted at all costs. We must keep the illusion going. I just can't buy into that. I find the idea of actually having a honest historical picture of various spiritual orgs, whether it be the Catholic church, Shambhala International, Inc. or the TM Org fascinating because the truth is stranger than the fiction. At least that's been my experience. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson
[FairfieldLife] Analysis: Stimulus won't jump-start economy
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[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote: ---Yes, Vaj seems to be suffering from some type of mental aberration, at least in the sense of some engrams from the past forcing him into this bizarre behavior. I can see people dissing MMY, TM, etc; a few times, but I can't fathom why one would continue with this behavior day after day, for years. Though I favor TM, I've long ago grown to accept the fact that people have different preferences for various techniques, or no technique at all. Take the people I work with: attorneys, quite intelligent in the brains department but not a single one of them is in the least bit interested in nondualist Dharma. And I have no desire to tell any of them about TM, mindfulness, etc. Basically, I don't give a crap whether people practice TM, mindfulness, or stand on their heads. The fact that Vaj is so obsessive about dissing MMY and TM is indeed a case-study in a class for abnormal psychology. Bizarre! Why are people so insistent on diagnosing those they tend to agree with on this forum? Mindreading is a favorite occupation. Several times I have disclosed my motivations for hanging around here. Curtis has disclosed his motivations. Beyond that, who knows why any one of us participates? If you are curious, ask.
[FairfieldLife] Why are you here?
Every once in a while someone questions another person's motivations for hanging out on FFL. I am curious. Why are you here? What do you get out of this place?
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
Well, actually it's a dessert topping and a floor polish. So you're partially correct. On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: i thought it was a dog turd, but whatever, different strokes, right?:) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: No, a dessert topping. On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Peter wrote: Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint?
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
I just can't buy into that. I find the idea of actually having a honest historical picture of various spiritual orgs, whether it be the Catholic church, Shambhala International, Inc. or the TM Org fascinating because the truth is stranger than the fiction. At least that's been my experience. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson Uh, having had this sort of roundtable discussion for a long time many of us are of the mind that since religions and their followings, including ourselves, are inhabited by beings who are somehow needy, that they all therefore are basically whack (neurotic) at the outset, so all religious groups will be even more trying and tiresome than ones own family. I mean, I don't really have any agenda at FFLife so much but to emote and hear some familiar voices of spiritual people so we are maybe here for same reasons, maybe different. At any rate Vaj, you have done much to increase the spiritual vocabulary here. I personally at this late date try not to dunk Maharishi since that would be tantamount to declaring myself a total idiot, since I spent so much time involved in it and liking it. I said all I ever needed to when I freaked out about TMO and posted my diatribe on AMT. I was also such a vocal opponent of Maharishi in his last years. Though I don't do TM anymore I still was born out of it anew. I later forgave what I felt of Maharishi's shortcomings instead marvelling that at least one human was loudly making some noise for some sort of positive -through mystical- change. In my mind I remember talking to George Harrison about Maharishi and the set lights outside looked like the foam spray off of a waterfall as it shown down through a slice in the the paper darkened movie set behind him and he was holding his long sandalwood mala and so now I am flashing on Maharishi, a waterfall, a sandalwood mala, a beatle, a pure and powerful mystical time on Earth. that's what Maharishi meant. A beam of Jaya Guru Deva off into deep space thanks to NASA. Even Jesus didn't get that. What M means to me now. He was something like the LSD trials But lately though I am just thankful for any spiritual people of mystical pursuasions anywhere to talk to. They being very rare in this world. The early Eastern gurus burning up alot of freely given Western good will as they have done. So I am wasting time helplessly unable to get my day started. But here goes. Personally though I see no hope for the blending of science and spirituality and in fact it can only lead to disaster through bigotry. This was my main problem with Hindutva in general, the fascism. Thus my joining Vajra clan. Buddhists cannot be fascist. It is not allowed. It is not a possibility. Of course they can be bigoted and opinionated, but not fascist.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why are you here?
I'm emoting remotely. To the aethers, hoping someone will phone.
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
Kirk wrote: when you insult my guru you are inviting me to leave this place. Again. Cause I won't abide it. Kirk, Dude, you know better than most that the trolls are always with us. Every time you've returned here, my spirit notched into a higher gear. Cognitively, you've scattered your identity across many spectrums, and, so, often I'm not there for you, but energy-wise, you've presented something that all we FFL stuffy-heads need -- you have passions. Ya perks up da denizens here. Don't leave the good 'uns here just to turn your back on the nutzoids. The trolls always are taking pot shots at anyone who's as vulnerable as you are, but that's the deal here -- you come to test your ability to be vulnerable and to find that this sort of practice deepens it. Some of my best moments of personal evolution here are when I don't reply to someone. To simply drop the angst from my side can be such a relief from that well-known Internet dynamic of Someone's wrong online and I must correct the bastard. And, you've got some chops, ya know? You can sling the lingo, and that's a rare treat here. You're not parroting in an empty fashion; I get the history behind your usage -- you know a lot about the roots of these mystical concepts. Like Vaj's stuff, your stuff doesn't always ring my chimes, but I'm always interested in your clockworks even if the fine print thereof starts my eyes a'blurrin' and I get tizzied with the flurry of memes you're juggling. 'Course, the opposite of all the above is true too, cuz you're an artist who uses his full palette. Edg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why are you here?
On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote: Every once in a while someone questions another person's motivations for hanging out on FFL. I am curious. Why are you here? What do you get out of this place? I'm here because much of the time it's fun and gives me an opportunity to reconnect with some old friends, make some new ones, and bash the TMO...and frankly, I can't think of a worthier endeavor. :) What do I get out of it? Besides a headache, you mean? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
Ah! No mind, no mind. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs ) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 10:20 AM No, a dessert topping. On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Peter wrote: Dzogchen? Isn't that a breath mint?
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
And, you've got some chops, ya know? You can sling the lingo, and that's a rare treat here. You're not parroting in an empty fashion; I get the history behind your usage -- you know a lot about the roots of these mystical concepts. Like Vaj's stuff, your stuff doesn't always ring my chimes, but I'm always interested in your clockworks even if the fine print thereof starts my eyes a'blurrin' and I get tizzied with the flurry of memes you're juggling. 'Course, the opposite of all the above is true too, cuz you're an artist who uses his full palette. Edg Ah gosh! Break out the whiskey. This is a glass clinking moment, Edge. I have three parrots. That saying about parroting something is pretty fake since they aren't really as great copycats as the Alex Greys would have you believe. No, for being perfect copycats there's nobody like a pundit (pandita). Real parroting (parrots in action) is about sex and alpha dominance. So I guess I am saying that people who parrot are really about sex and dominance. Being less dominator and more masochist I suppose I open up a bit more to others. I'm just kidding about leaving, over people's comments anyway. I usually leave when I can't keep up, get it up for FFLife any longer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
Yogananda was referring to a person by the name of Babaji, as I recall. It appears that certain guru traditions in India are still perpetuating this legend for one reason or the other. For me, this story is telling me that there are natural ways to lengthen one's health and longevity, which are diametrically opposed to the current allopathic practices today. Although our society has advanced in technological terms, it has forgotten how to live like a human being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i recall in Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda mentions a saint living in the himalayas who is 1,000's of years old as well. there is also mention of a saint who was about 350 years old, though i don't recall where i read about him. even Tat Wala Baba, who was assassinated at the age of 80 or so was said to look only about 35. i am ok with going when i go, though it is remarkable these stories of those who come to earth with the express purpose of showing us that even human life need not be as short as it commonly is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. JR
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
We welcome your comments about these matters, Barry. You provide the opposite end of the argument. So, it keeps everybody honest and thinking. Personally, I believe that these stories are written in symbolic codes, aside from the apparent drift of the story. One has to interpret the meaning of these symbols in order to understand the true message. The interpretations may vary for us now. But the ancient writers may have intended them that way. Some guru traditions interpret the stories literally. There are others who don't. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. Given the Post Count mechanism screwup, I'm not completely sure but I think that this is my last post of the week. And, as such, it would probably behoove me to say something intelligent and uplifting in response to one of our more thoughtful members here. Instead, I'm going to respond to John again. So John, might I propose a commentary to your brilliant observation on the vedic texts above? The entirety of my commentary is, Well, duh. If I could control the inhalation and exhalation of my breath by keeping them going, I could live forever, too. So could you. There ain't no adept or yoga in the equation at all. :-) Well, duh. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. Actually, this part is true. Maru lives in a remote cave in the Himalayas with Maitreya (yes, Nabby's Maitreya), where the two of them have a fairly bitch- slap-meets-bitch-slap homosexual relationship. Their spats can be heard from miles away, as can their lovemaking when they run out of K-Y lubricant. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. And then *everyone* is going to have to invest in K-Y lubricant. The resulting era will be known as the Sun Buggery Yuga, or the Age of Enlightened Bendover. :-) I'm just funnin' wit ya, John, to see if you've got a sense of humor about all of this. I would suggest that if you don't, you should probably work on that. I *understand* that you probably wrote your post out of a desire to inspire others here with the same sense of awe and wonder that you felt when reading this fairy story (so to speak), and there are probably a few folks here who will feel that same sense of awe and wonder. You had them at According to certain vedic texts. Say that magic phrase and some are willing to throw common sense out the window and believe anything that follows without question. They are willing to believe stories about living forever, about monkey men leaping from India to Sri Lanka, about big blue chauffeurs getting to decide who lives and who dies, about green flowing soma, and about cows. Lots and lots of stories about cows. But others of us here -- I would suggest many of them firmly still in the I like TM and continue to practice it no matter what camp -- seem to be able to view these fairy tales *as* fairy tales, and enjoy them as such, without feeling the need to believe them as literal fact. You seem to feel the need to believe them as literal fact, the same way that Jim Jim (what *is* it about guys from the South with two first names like Jim Bob or Bubba Sue, anyway?) seems to believe that the Bible is literal fact. So I'm going to pose a few questions to you. You may answer them or not, as you see fit, but I've really just got to ask, because I find your position in all of this as curious as Jim Jim's. First, do you really *believe* that one of Ramachandra's descendents named Maru is still alive and kicking today and living somewhere in India? If so, what makes you believe this? Have you seen any *other* examples of people living forever? If this guy pulled off living forever by being an adept in yoga and Maharishi (obviously) didn't, does that make Maharishi *less* than an adept in yoga? What is the *value* of living forever? ( To the world, that is. I can imagine that if one is ego-bound enough to *want* to live forever it has a value to the self. ) If you were secretly given the location of Ramachandra's descendent, and were to go see him, would you believe the things he told you just because he said them, and he's so freakin' old? ( I mean, Roger Moore just turned 80, but I don't see him as any font of eternal wisdom, even if he did play James Bond for a while. ) If you were to go to see Ramachandra's descendent and the first thing he asked you was, Did you bring your K-Y?, would you have second thoughts about the eternal truth to be found in the vedic
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:51 PM, John wrote: Yogananda was referring to a person by the name of Babaji, as I recall. It appears that certain guru traditions in India are still perpetuating this legend for one reason or the other. For me, this story is telling me that there are natural ways to lengthen one's health and longevity, which are diametrically opposed to the current allopathic practices today. Although our society has advanced in technological terms, it has forgotten how to live like a human being. Long-life practices of the Hindu and Buddhist tantras do exist, are still taught and they do work, but they are not necessarily opposed to allopathic medicine at all. Their mechanism is primarily yogic and although they do combine with the practice of certain rasayanas, there's no reason that I'm aware of to discontinue allopathic medicines while taking them. In fact I know several people who've done the practices while undergoing chemotherapy and radiation therapy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
yes, Babaji is the name i recall, now that you mention it. interesting you bring up the technology angle. i have been thinking lately how technology makes us all sidhas in a way-- ability to fly, supernormal hearing, sight and speech, omniscience (well wikipedia, anyway), etc, but without the requisite development of expanded awareness, it leads to mundane applications at best (American Idol, internet porn) and accelerated extinction at worst (global warming, nuclear war, toxic food and water, super bacteria, etc.). also interesting that just as technology began to expand through time and space beyond our ability to control it, that the Maharishi brought out TM. as if the innate intelligence of the universe saw that an appropriate balance of consciousness vs action was needed in order for us to handle the acceleration of living resulting from the technological explosion we find ourselves in the middle of. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Yogananda was referring to a person by the name of Babaji, as I recall. It appears that certain guru traditions in India are still perpetuating this legend for one reason or the other. For me, this story is telling me that there are natural ways to lengthen one's health and longevity, which are diametrically opposed to the current allopathic practices today. Although our society has advanced in technological terms, it has forgotten how to live like a human being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: i recall in Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda mentions a saint living in the himalayas who is 1,000's of years old as well. there is also mention of a saint who was about 350 years old, though i don't recall where i read about him. even Tat Wala Baba, who was assassinated at the age of 80 or so was said to look only about 35. i am ok with going when i go, though it is remarkable these stories of those who come to earth with the express purpose of showing us that even human life need not be as short as it commonly is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. JR
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Actually, this part is true. Maru lives in a remote cave in the Himalayas with Maitreya (yes, Nabby's Maitreya), Wrong again. Maitreya left the Himalayas in 1977 and is now living in the indian community of London.
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: you think your buddy Vaj is pure as the driven snow, eh? look a little closer. that's yellow snow, bub. HeHe :-)
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: This was enough fun at FFLife for me for one day. And I don't even have a life. Obviously, we know that already. Otherwise, why would you invite your religious, fanatic, obsessed and professional brother Vaj to FFL; because you had nothing better to do ;-)
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Clearly, Vaj is trying to compensate for the mediocre results of his Garab Dorje/Norbu program by making false and twisted claims about the programs which really do work. --I just outright object on the principle of guru bashing as a bad practice altogether. Please stop it now. I can offer no threat to make my words sink in but I accept these words above as proof that ignorance itself is its own pay back. To read the absurdities in the whole stinking topic and the offended outcries is like taking barf for oatmeal. So few people here have any real appreciateion of anything. I mean, there are some here who can appreciate things. But then so many also seem like Christian Puritans. What the hell is all this blather proving exactly. Leave Namkhai Norbu's name entirely out of this discussion please. You offend others than just Vaj. Insult Garab Dorge, insult your own very essence. How low idiotic is that? There is no conceivable difference between Advaita and Dzogchen since neither deals with a conceptual state. All we have are footprints, and some notes from some few interested practitioners. No other's opinions have any bearing on anything. The intellectual trappings of each system in each system try to be overcome from within and they are not always successful. While some people here have excellent grasp of many systems I have yet to see anyone who has synthesized and become intregral. Able to understand ALL the teachings. Without bullshit and name calling and negative insinuation, as if someone who does one path or another is a whore or something. Frankly I have known some nicer whores that some of you here, but that's just neither here nor there really. Some men and women learn compassion faster and give more on their backs then some give on their meditation cushions. And subsequent actions. Of course I'm nobody to talk as I was a stupid TM freak myself for quite a long time and yet it was that fact that showed me that TMO was going the way of fertilizer. I am sure it won't surprise anyone here that I stand up for Vaj's intellectual rigor as I know that he knows more than most of you, since he has been around for a long very long time and known many gurus. You all really have no idea who he is at all. As for many of you others, I don't know you, I only know your words, and when you insult my guru you are inviting me to leave this place. Again. Cause I won't abide it. Lil Mahesh isn't offensive to you, however... L
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson Agreed, and Vaj is a pro Maharishi basher. Why I do not know. Perhaps it is the success of the TMO from within the Buddhist monestaries in Thailand that got him going, perhaps he receives a salary, or perhaps the general rise of the Age of Enlightenment simply makes him feel uncomfortable, not being able to adjust to the new incoming energies. I suppose the reality that Maharishi predicted Heaven will walk on earth in this generation and that Maitreya is about to start His open mission is enough to drive any Buddhist crazy as they claim He will not be reborn in another 50.000 years. When the going gets weird, Vaj turns weirder.
[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig lengli...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: As for many of you others, I don't know you, I only know your words, and when you insult my guru you are inviting me to leave this place. Again. Cause I won't abide it. Lil Mahesh isn't offensive to you, however... L ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
There is a system of ayurveda which the name of escapes me but mainly deals with keeping the tonification and reduction cycles properly maintained. With tonification you keep the body from degenerating and with reduction you eliminate any toxins that could create premature aging. Difficult to do and many new agers get too hung up on the reduction cycle and don't do much tonification. That won't work. I'm just trying to remember the guy from Kerala who was in the area 10 years ago promoting the system. John wrote: Yogananda was referring to a person by the name of Babaji, as I recall. It appears that certain guru traditions in India are still perpetuating this legend for one reason or the other. For me, this story is telling me that there are natural ways to lengthen one's health and longevity, which are diametrically opposed to the current allopathic practices today. Although our society has advanced in technological terms, it has forgotten how to live like a human being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: i recall in Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda mentions a saint living in the himalayas who is 1,000's of years old as well. there is also mention of a saint who was about 350 years old, though i don't recall where i read about him. even Tat Wala Baba, who was assassinated at the age of 80 or so was said to look only about 35. i am ok with going when i go, though it is remarkable these stories of those who come to earth with the express purpose of showing us that even human life need not be as short as it commonly is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. JR
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Actually, this part is true. Maru lives in a remote cave in the Himalayas with Maitreya (yes, Nabby's Maitreya), Wrong again. Maitreya left the Himalayas in 1977 and is now living in the indian community of London. Is he running an Indian grocery or smoke shop? :-D
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[FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. -Hunter S. Thompson Agreed, and Vaj is a pro Maharishi basher. Why I do not know. Perhaps it is the success of the TMO from within the Buddhist monestaries in Thailand that got him going, perhaps he receives a salary, or perhaps the general rise of the Age of Enlightenment simply makes him feel uncomfortable, not being able to adjust to the new incoming energies. I suppose the reality that Maharishi predicted Heaven will walk on earth in this generation and that Maitreya is about to start His open mission is enough to drive any Buddhist crazy as they claim He will not be reborn in another 50.000 years. When the going gets weird, Vaj turns weirder. /me blinks slowly and moves on... L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: [snip] One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. Actually, this part is true. Maru lives in a remote cave in the Himalayas with Maitreya (yes, Nabby's Maitreya), where the two of them have a fairly bitch- slap-meets-bitch-slap homosexual relationship. Their spats can be heard from miles away, as can their lovemaking when they run out of K-Y lubricant. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. And then *everyone* is going to have to invest in K-Y lubricant. The resulting era will be known as the Sun Buggery Yuga, or the Age of Enlightened Bendover. :-) K-Y has all the lubricity of contact cement. With any luck, Jesus will return and bring the Gospel of Astroglide for all mankind. [snip] Jai and away... I think Jai, Jai, and away sounds better.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There is a system of ayurveda which the name of escapes me but mainly deals with keeping the tonification and reduction cycles properly maintained. With tonification you keep the body from degenerating and with reduction you eliminate any toxins that could create premature aging. Difficult to do and many new agers get too hung up on the reduction cycle and don't do much tonification. That won't work. I'm just trying to remember the guy from Kerala who was in the area 10 years ago promoting the system. Kaya-kalpa?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
Vaj wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There is a system of ayurveda which the name of escapes me but mainly deals with keeping the tonification and reduction cycles properly maintained. With tonification you keep the body from degenerating and with reduction you eliminate any toxins that could create premature aging. Difficult to do and many new agers get too hung up on the reduction cycle and don't do much tonification. That won't work. I'm just trying to remember the guy from Kerala who was in the area 10 years ago promoting the system. Kaya-kalpa? That's it!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why are you here?
ruthsimplicity wrote: Every once in a while someone questions another person's motivations for hanging out on FFL. I am curious. Why are you here? What do you get out of this place? A laugh mostly. But then I have a lot in common with folks here who taught TM then walked away from it. And especially the ones who got in to other traditions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
On Feb 13, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There is a system of ayurveda which the name of escapes me but mainly deals with keeping the tonification and reduction cycles properly maintained. With tonification you keep the body from degenerating and with reduction you eliminate any toxins that could create premature aging. Difficult to do and many new agers get too hung up on the reduction cycle and don't do much tonification. That won't work. I'm just trying to remember the guy from Kerala who was in the area 10 years ago promoting the system. Kaya-kalpa? That's it! A lot of people have begun capitalizing off the name, reputation and legend of kaya-kalpa. It's highly unlikely that any of these are legitimate. There are vaidyas in India who've been looking for the secret of kaya-kalpa for many years, so I doubt what's being sold in the US or Europe is the real deal. Mahesh even claimed he was going to restore the kaya-kalpa regimes, but never was able to.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
the natural, anti-aging technique i have used for several years now involves not wearing my glasses when i look in the mirror. that way, the slow deterioration of my eyesight almost perfectly matches the increase of wrinkles on my face, creating a soft focus, and a nearly ageless appearance! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: There is a system of ayurveda which the name of escapes me but mainly deals with keeping the tonification and reduction cycles properly maintained. With tonification you keep the body from degenerating and with reduction you eliminate any toxins that could create premature aging. Difficult to do and many new agers get too hung up on the reduction cycle and don't do much tonification. That won't work. I'm just trying to remember the guy from Kerala who was in the area 10 years ago promoting the system. John wrote: Yogananda was referring to a person by the name of Babaji, as I recall. It appears that certain guru traditions in India are still perpetuating this legend for one reason or the other. For me, this story is telling me that there are natural ways to lengthen one's health and longevity, which are diametrically opposed to the current allopathic practices today. Although our society has advanced in technological terms, it has forgotten how to live like a human being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: i recall in Autobiography of a Yogi, Yogananda mentions a saint living in the himalayas who is 1,000's of years old as well. there is also mention of a saint who was about 350 years old, though i don't recall where i read about him. even Tat Wala Baba, who was assassinated at the age of 80 or so was said to look only about 35. i am ok with going when i go, though it is remarkable these stories of those who come to earth with the express purpose of showing us that even human life need not be as short as it commonly is. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: According to certain vedic texts, an adept in yoga can live forever by controlling the inhalation and exhalation of the breath. One of Ramachandra's descendant by the name of Maru, who was born thousands of years ago, is supposedly still alive today and is living somewhere in India. According to the text, he will revive the lineage of the Sun dynasty sometime in the future. JR
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
bastard! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There is a system of ayurveda which the name of escapes me but mainly deals with keeping the tonification and reduction cycles properly maintained. With tonification you keep the body from degenerating and with reduction you eliminate any toxins that could create premature aging. Difficult to do and many new agers get too hung up on the reduction cycle and don't do much tonification. That won't work. I'm just trying to remember the guy from Kerala who was in the area 10 years ago promoting the system. Kaya-kalpa? That's it! A lot of people have begun capitalizing off the name, reputation and legend of kaya-kalpa. It's highly unlikely that any of these are legitimate. There are vaidyas in India who've been looking for the secret of kaya-kalpa for many years, so I doubt what's being sold in the US or Europe is the real deal. Mahesh even claimed he was going to restore the kaya-kalpa regimes, but never was able to.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
Vaj wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There is a system of ayurveda which the name of escapes me but mainly deals with keeping the tonification and reduction cycles properly maintained. With tonification you keep the body from degenerating and with reduction you eliminate any toxins that could create premature aging. Difficult to do and many new agers get too hung up on the reduction cycle and don't do much tonification. That won't work. I'm just trying to remember the guy from Kerala who was in the area 10 years ago promoting the system. Kaya-kalpa? That's it! A lot of people have begun capitalizing off the name, reputation and legend of kaya-kalpa. It's highly unlikely that any of these are legitimate. There are vaidyas in India who've been looking for the secret of kaya-kalpa for many years, so I doubt what's being sold in the US or Europe is the real deal. Mahesh even claimed he was going to restore the kaya-kalpa regimes, but never was able to. Joseph Kurian was the guy who was promoting it around here. But he mainly talked about it and sold some teas and massage creams. Aging is mainly the effect of vata so if you can keep ahead of that then you are part of the way down the road. Chopra once said you can keep ahead of aging that is if you want to lead that boring of life. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
On Feb 13, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote: A lot of people have begun capitalizing off the name, reputation and legend of kaya-kalpa. It's highly unlikely that any of these are legitimate. There are vaidyas in India who've been looking for the secret of kaya-kalpa for many years, so I doubt what's being sold in the US or Europe is the real deal. Mahesh even claimed he was going to restore the kaya-kalpa regimes, but never was able to. Joseph Kurian was the guy who was promoting it around here. But he mainly talked about it and sold some teas and massage creams. Aging is mainly the effect of vata so if you can keep ahead of that then you are part of the way down the road. Chopra once said you can keep ahead of aging that is if you want to lead that boring of life. ;-) Yes, he was promoting his brand of marma therapy and I was told by a physician who was using them that they were excellent. He also claimed that one day the guy just disappeared. I found his book on the subject unimpressive. It does seem however that this gentleman who was supposed to be MMY's successor, who later withdrew, is the real deal. He's descended from over a hundred generations of vaidyas, back to the guy who healed Krishna of the arrow.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Why are you here?
On Feb 13, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote: ruthsimplicity wrote: Every once in a while someone questions another person's motivations for hanging out on FFL. I am curious. Why are you here? What do you get out of this place? A laugh mostly. But then I have a lot in common with folks here who taught TM then walked away from it. And especially the ones who got in to other traditions. I was contacted, via a television from the early 60's, with a specially constructed antenna, by JHVH-1, a wrathful space-alien God from some corporate sin galaxy, and told to join to Fairfield Life. I am the lineal descendent J.R. Bob Dobbs (Hail Bob!) and live for Slack. I just can't get enough Slack!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@... wrote: the US or Europe is the real deal. Mahesh even claimed he was going to restore the kaya-kalpa regimes, but never was able to. He certainly did just that. Obviously not available to ordinary westerners.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Siddha Yoga
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 no_reply@ wrote: the US or Europe is the real deal. Mahesh even claimed he was going to restore the kaya-kalpa regimes, but never was able to. He certainly did just that. Obviously not available to ordinary westerners. i didn't write the above-- three guesses who did...
[FairfieldLife] Dutch City Fears Loss Of Porn Archive
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_ODD_NETHERLANDS_PURLOINED_PORN?SITE=APSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULTCTIME=2009-02-12-12-28-57 http://tinyurl.com/at47ld Feb 12, 1:22 PM EST Dutch city fears loss of pornography archive By TOBY STERLING Associated Press Writer AMSTERDAM (AP) -- The municipal pornography archive in the Dutch city of Leeuwarden is missing and officials fear it may be gone for good. Spokesman Erik Krikke of the city's historical center said the archive - which contained photos, drawings and erotic texts with a connection to the city - may have been taken home accidentally by an employee or visitor. We're hoping that someone will say 'Hey, I have that in my attic' and bring it back, he said Thursday. No questions asked. Krikke said the collection was small enough to have fit in a moving box. Mayor Ferd Crone of Leeuwarden, 87 miles (140 kilometers) north of Amsterdam, told local media he had been unaware of the collection's existence and was surprised it was gone. Krikke said the bulk of the archive had been assembled by a fanatic curator at the historical center, mostly during the 1960s and '70s. Items such as pictures by local photographers and artists would be difficult or impossible to replace. The collection included a copy of the rare February 1998 edition of Dutch Playboy, Krikke said. It featured girls from each of 11 Dutch cities along the route of the country's most beloved ice skating race, the Elfstedentocht. One of those girls was from Leeuwarden. Asked whether he thought it was unusual for the town to have a pornography collection, Krikke said yes - and that made the loss greater. Actually, we don't have one anymore, he said. (c) 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Learn more about our Privacy Policy.
[FairfieldLife] 'Bishop of London: Rebooting the Culture'
February 12, 2009Bishop of London says that redundancy is good for the soul President Obama is among those who cannot live without their BlackBerrys. He said recently that persuading his security services to let him keep his smartphone had been one of the toughest diplomatic battles of his life. The Right Rev Richard Chartres said that his diocese had been working hard to respond to the prospect of 150,000 unemployed in London's financial sector. The clergy of the City of London have been in the front line of pastoral care, he said. This was particularly true of Fiona Stewart Darling, Bishop’s Chaplain at Canary Wharf, where the parish population is about 100,000 during the day. At least one church in the City has had a poor take-up for its redundancy counselling sessions, however. An evangelical church has had almost no attendees at its lunchtime workshops on the recession. A lay member at the church speculated that this was because redundancy carries a stigma, and that in any case those who had been sacked were back at home with their wives and families in the stockbroker belt.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Dutch City Fears Loss Of Porn Archive
Damn! Haven't they heard of the internet? Plenty of whack material on it for everybody! No archives needed! --- On Fri, 2/13/09, I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com wrote: From: I am the eternal l.shad...@gmail.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Dutch City Fears Loss Of Porn Archive To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 6:34 PM http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_ODD_NETHERLANDS_PURLOINED_PORN?SITE=APSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULTCTIME=2009-02-12-12-28-57 http://tinyurl.com/at47ld Feb 12, 1:22 PM EST Dutch city fears loss of pornography archive By TOBY STERLING Associated Press Writer AMSTERDAM (AP) -- The municipal pornography archive in the Dutch city of Leeuwarden is missing and officials fear it may be gone for good. Spokesman Erik Krikke of the city's historical center said the archive - which contained photos, drawings and erotic texts with a connection to the city - may have been taken home accidentally by an employee or visitor. We're hoping that someone will say 'Hey, I have that in my attic' and bring it back, he said Thursday. No questions asked. Krikke said the collection was small enough to have fit in a moving box. Mayor Ferd Crone of Leeuwarden, 87 miles (140 kilometers) north of Amsterdam, told local media he had been unaware of the collection's existence and was surprised it was gone. Krikke said the bulk of the archive had been assembled by a fanatic curator at the historical center, mostly during the 1960s and '70s. Items such as pictures by local photographers and artists would be difficult or impossible to replace. The collection included a copy of the rare February 1998 edition of Dutch Playboy, Krikke said. It featured girls from each of 11 Dutch cities along the route of the country's most beloved ice skating race, the Elfstedentocht. One of those girls was from Leeuwarden. Asked whether he thought it was unusual for the town to have a pornography collection, Krikke said yes - and that made the loss greater. Actually, we don't have one anymore, he said. (c) 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Learn more about our Privacy Policy. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Do You Know The Whole Truth?
Go to your local church and hear all about PEACE and PROSPERITY, while knowing that God says in the Bible that when you hear these words (lies from the pulpits), then the end will come! But it's not the end of the world, it's the end of an empire (and neighboring nations)! With great hope for a third of its inhabitants. Are you wondering what Empire? For the answers to that question and many others, including what was prophesied about it's 2008 economic collapse. For those who are wanting the pure unadulterated Word, supported by a common logic approach to what is actually stated in the Bible, come get some of exactly that. http://www.theamericannightmare.org/n-iGGG1019_ECON.html Please let me know what you think. Barbara
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do You Know The Whole Truth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Thomas barbara_thoma...@... wrote: Go to your local church and hear all about PEACE and PROSPERITY, while knowing that God says in the Bible that when you hear these words (lies from the pulpits), then the end will come! But it's not the end of the world, it's the end of an empire (and neighboring nations)! With great hope for a third of its inhabitants. Are you wondering what Empire? For the answers to that question and many others, including what was prophesied about it's 2008 economic collapse. For those who are wanting the pure unadulterated Word, supported by a common logic approach to what is actually stated in the Bible, come get some of exactly that. http://www.theamericannightmare.org/n-iGGG1019_ECON.html Please let me know what you think. Barbara Barbara, I'm sure you're a very nice lady who wants to share her belief in the Bible and concern for our immortal souls. In case you haven't noticed, this is a rough crowd. We're just a bunch of jaded, overly intellectual, reprobate Buddhists, atheists and TM folk who for the most part don't believe in a literal interpretation of the bible, biblical prophecy and your downer message. Yes, the economy is a mess and we may well face doom as a nation. Since the end is near, make good use of your time by casting your net for savable souls more receptive to your message.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do You Know The Whole Truth?
---God's Salvation plan: (from Jack Chick)...; God's Plan of Salvation The Bible says there is only one way to Heaven Jesus said: I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me. (John 14:6) Good works cannot save you. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9) Trust Jesus Christ today! Here's what you must do: Admit you are a sinner. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Romans 3:23) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: (Romans 5:12) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:10) Be willing to turn from sin (repent). Jesus said: I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. (Luke 13:5) And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (Acts 17:30) Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried, and rose from the dead. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners. Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9) Through prayer, invite Jesus into your life to become your personal Saviour. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:10) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13) What to pray: Dear God, I am a sinner and need forgiveness. I believe that Jesus Christ shed His precious blood and died for my sin. I am willing to turn from sin. I now invite Christ to come into my heart and life as my personal Saviour. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (John 1:12) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. (2 Corinthians 5:17) -- -- If you have received Jesus Christ as your Saviour, as a Christian you should: Read your Bible every day to get to know Christ better. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15) Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. (Psalms 119:105) Talk to God in prayer every day. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive. (Matthew 21:22) Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. (Philippians 4:6) Be baptized, worship, fellowship, and serve with other Christians in a church where Christ is preached and the Bible is the final authority. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (Matthew 28:19) Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. (Hebrews 10:25) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (2 Timothy 3:16) Tell others about Christ. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. (Mark 16:15) For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! (1 Corinthians 9:16) For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. (Romans 1:16) yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Thomas barbara_thomas73@ wrote: Go to your local church and hear all about PEACE and PROSPERITY, while knowing that God says in the Bible that when you hear these words (lies from the pulpits), then the end will come! But it's not the end of the world, it's the end of an empire (and neighboring nations)! With great hope for a third of its inhabitants. Are you wondering what Empire? For the answers to that question and many others, including what was prophesied about it's 2008 economic collapse. For those who are wanting the pure unadulterated Word, supported by a common logic approach to what is actually stated in the Bible,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do You Know The Whole Truth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Thomas barbara_thomas73@ wrote: Go to your local church and hear all about PEACE and PROSPERITY, while knowing that God says in the Bible that when you hear these words (lies from the pulpits), then the end will come! But it's not the end of the world, it's the end of an empire (and neighboring nations)! With great hope for a third of its inhabitants. Are you wondering what Empire? For the answers to that question and many others, including what was prophesied about it's 2008 economic collapse. For those who are wanting the pure unadulterated Word, supported by a common logic approach to what is actually stated in the Bible, come get some of exactly that. http://www.theamericannightmare.org/n-iGGG1019_ECON.html Please let me know what you think. Barbara Barbara, I'm sure you're a very nice lady who wants to share her belief in the Bible and concern for our immortal souls. In case you haven't noticed, this is a rough crowd. We're just a bunch of jaded, overly intellectual, reprobate Buddhists, atheists and TM folk who for the most part don't believe in a literal interpretation of the bible, biblical prophecy and your downer message. Yes, the economy is a mess and we may well face doom as a nation. Since the end is near, make good use of your time by casting your net for savable souls more receptive to your message. Amen, and, I have serious doubt that the unadulterated word exists in the mainstream markets. N.
[FairfieldLife] Bush and Rice (funi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSmI_zsTgA http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] What is the nature of attachment? (Re: All of Patanjali's 8 limbs )
Lil Mahesh isn't offensive to you, however... L ;-) --Not really anymore. I just never had the real connection to Maharishi that others feel. I mean, I just liked the technique. Maharishi made my mind chase its own tail a bit too much. I don't suppose such things like Aparushaya Bhasya means so much to my daily circumstances. I don't hate Maharishi though. I even love him. But it's not visceral. Like once the Dalai Lama got sick and I worried he was gonna die and I was really worried. At other times I sort of wished Maharishi would finish his job here. At some point a human being what they are they are going to be seen in all their fiery hypocracy and mental bias. I didn't care for Maharishi trying to finesse tyrants and dictators. I don't care for the man on the moon mission statement of the local millionaire chakravartins. I think I take personal affront when people deride teachers who really have not had a sordid history. There are some, and it's because of Maharishi and other jet set gurus that people now are scared. They may ultimately have not served history well, in spite of how some gurus have opened our minds personally. Namkhai Norbu isn't my teacher either. Just so far as I have ever heard he has been integral and not making his followers all emotional. I remember reading lots of Nasruddin the Sufi stories when I was young and he was adept at keeping his devotees mentally and emotionally even tempered. For all the no mood making bullshit the TMO espoused they were the worst sort of sky pilot mood makers one could ever wish for. But as I said in another post such persons comfort me. I remember a teaching I attended where one man hopped around from foot to foot shooting imaginary arrows and at the time I thought he was a kook. But one day I was meditating and he entered my mind and I started laughing for like ten minutes and I thought, hey I am glad we had him there. Just so that you understand my position. I tend to hang with thugs and drunks and other underworld types. I like them as they tend to be known quantities. Gurus in general now make me weary, as weary as politicians and cops. You know, you never heard a negative Schlomo Karlebach story ever. A roller skating ukulele playing hasid rabbi is not someone who is out to create skateparks with his logo on them. His was a simple message which caused little controversy and crossed all lines. We didn't need another hero. I would just rather have some simple honesty. Lots of not simple honesty in TMO, perhaps really worse than Hari Krishna movement, just played smarter by teams of Purusha MBAs. Best just not to get me started. My TMO experience is like a bad divorce and yet there's still some sexual tension when we're together. Allegorically speaking. Besides Maharishi's dead and nothing can touch him now.
[FairfieldLife] BSG
Any fans out there? It is all coming together in such an amazing way. My guess, there are no humans left, everybody is a Cylon!
[FairfieldLife] Founder of Muslim TV Beheads Wife
Unbelievable!! Founder Of Muslim-American TV Network Arrested For Wife's BeheadingFeb 13, 2009 ... Founder Of Muslim-American TV Network Arrested For Wife's Beheading ... Arianna Huffington Why is Obama Reluctant to Kill the Zombie Banks ... www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/13/founder-of-muslim-america_n_16 http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: BSG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Any fans out there? It is all coming together in such an amazing way. My guess, there are no humans left, everybody is a Cylon! Nah, looks like there are a few more twists and turns left ... The Five -- very Vedic ;) JohnY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Do You Know The Whole Truth?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Barbara Thomas barbara_thoma...@... wrote: Go to your local church and hear all about PEACE and PROSPERITY, while knowing that God says in the Bible that when you hear these words (lies from the pulpits), then the end will come! But it's not the end of the world, it's the end of an empire (and neighboring nations)! With great hope for a third of its inhabitants. Are you wondering what Empire? For the answers to that question and many others, including what was prophesied about it's 2008 economic collapse. For those who are wanting the pure unadulterated Word, supported by a common logic approach to what is actually stated in the Bible, come get some of exactly that. http://www.theamericannightmare.org/n-iGGG1019_ECON.html Please let me know what you think. Barbara We met Jesus. Off the Pleides. He was very tall, about 15 feet, very thin, with blue skin, three eyes, but like those of a Jaguar cat, and wielded an ornate golden longbow. His charge was a majestic flying dragon who spoke in tongues, and a transparent crocodile lay sleeping at his feet. His words were tones that played on the mind like sweet melodies, or like a soft breeze over calm water. Our hearts were filled with love, and we saw that history had never existed. We wept with joy, and forgave all those who trespassed against us. -- OffWorldBeings
[FairfieldLife] Amma's healing presence
From a friend for the life of me, I do not know why I'm doing this, however I have this strong urge to share the following with you all.. Ok, here I sit reading Swami Ramakrishnan's Racing Along the Razor's Edge. I'm on Chapter Five: The Importance of Having a Guru and the subsection is titled - Healing Presence. Swami starts this off by describing how people with what may seem to be huge problems in their lives, as they come up to Amma for darshan seems the problems become insignficant, they just melt away as it were. The following, after I read it, I reflected on an incident that I witness at DFW (Dallas/Ft Worth airport). Then this strong urge came up to share this and why I don't know but here goes... When Amma was in Chicago in 1993 at the Parliament of World's Religions Centennial, She was requested to give the closing prayers and message. The devotees brought the car close to the stage door so that Amma would be able to get to the car as quickly as possible when the function was over; otherwise, people would crowd around Her. As the Dalai Lama and some other important celebrities were also on the stage along with Amma, there was tight security. Because of this, it was diffuuclt to get permission to park the car near the stage door. Amma finished Her prayer and message and was walking out the stage door toward the car when She saw a security guard arguing with a devotee. The guard's face was red with anger and his voice was escalating. Amma walked straight up to the guard, stroked his chest and gave him a hug. He was totally taken aback by this unexpected loving and soothing embrace. The guard, who had been insisting that due to security reasons they should move the car and bring Amma only through the designated gate and not through any other door, was now escorting Amma to the car and opening the door for Her! Just one touch was enough to change him. Next year when Amma came to Chicago, he was the first person in the darshan line. I was there and I remember standing way in the back of this open arena. It was nightfall, and so happend I was standing next to another Amma devotee. When it was Amma's turn to come up to the podium, all we both could see from the angle we were at, was Her nose ring shining brilliantly. We both could not believe how radiant it shined! Just a certain way She would turn Her head and the stage lights would hit that ring and it was like all of a sudden seeing a bright light from a lighthouse beaming out and it this instance this dazzling, sparkling, radiant divine brilliance shining forht. It was truly remakable. Sometime in the early 90's I went to see Amma at DFW as She was leaving to go to Chicago. As She was walking to the gate She would stop and either embrace or stroke a person's chest. Devotee or a passerby! It was remarkable to see how She would so naturally come up to a stranger and embrace them. One very sweet moment, for me was when She walked up to an American Airline employee, a young African American male, and just completely showered him with so much affection. You could tell at first he was a bit bewildered, but then completely accepting and grateful what just happened to him. The following year he showed up for darshan there in Dallas. So there you have it, like I said don't know what came over me to write this, but its done and hope you enjoyed the story(s). Happy Valentines Charles
[FairfieldLife] Religious News - Hindu group developing cow urine beverage
http://www.arcamax.com/religiousnews/s-495920-710332
[FairfieldLife] An amalgam of Rick's two posts
IF YOU READ THIS ONE POST, YOU WON'T HAVE TO BOTHER READING BOTH OF RICK'S POSTS... from a friend for the life of me, I do not know why I'm doing this, however I have this strong urge to share the following with you all.. Ok, here I sit reading Swami Ramakrishnan's Racing Along the Razor's Edge. I'm on Chapter Five: The Importance of Having a Guru and the subsection is titled - Healing Presence. Swami starts this off by describing how people with what may seem to be huge problems in their lives, as they come up to Amma for cow urine seems the problems become insignficant, they just melt away as it were. The following, after I read it, I reflected on an incident that I witness at DFW (Dallas/Ft Worth airport). Then this strong urge came up to share this and why I don't know but here goes... When Amma was in Chicago in 1993 at the Parliament of World's Religions Centennial, She was requested to give the closing prayers and message. The devotees brought the car close to the stage door so that Amma would be able to get to the car as quickly as possible when the function was over; otherwise, people would crowd around Her. As the Dalai Lama and some other important celebrities were also on the stage along with Amma, there was tight security. Because of this, it was diffuuclt to get permission to park the car near the stage door. Amma finished Her prayer and message and was walking out the stage door toward the car when She saw a security guard arguing with a devotee. The guard's face was red with anger and his voice was escalating. Amma walked straight up to the guard and gave him a sip of cow urine. He was totally taken aback by this unexpected loving and soothing beverage. The guard, who had been insisting that due to security reasons they should move the car and bring Amma only through the designated gate and not through any other door, was now escorting Amma to the car and opening the door for Her! Just one sip was enough to change him. Next year when Amma came to Chicago, he was the first person in the beverage line. I was there and I remember standing way in the back of this open arena. It was nightfall, and so happend I was standing next to another Amma devotee. When it was Amma's turn to come up to the podium, all we both could see from the angle we were at, was Her nose ring shining brilliantly. We both could not believe how radiant it shined! Just a certain way She would turn Her head and the stage lights would hit that ring and it was like all of a sudden seeing a bright light from a lighthouse beaming out and it this instance this dazzling, sparkling, radiant divine brilliance shining forht. It was truly remakable. Sometime in the early 90's I went to see Amma at DFW as She was leaving to go to Chicago. As She was walking to the gate She would stop and either provide a sip of cow urine or rub cow urine into a person's chest. Devotee or a passerby! It was remarkable to see how She would so naturally come up to a stranger and share the cow urine with them. One very sweet moment, for me was when She walked up to an American Airline employee, a young African American male, and just completely showered him with cow urine. You could tell at first he was a bit bewildered, but then completely accepting and grateful what just happened to him. The following year he showed up for darshan there in Dallas. So there you have it, like I said don't know what came over me to write this, but its done and hope you enjoyed the story(s). Happy Valentines Charles
[FairfieldLife] Scroll in windows w/o focus
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[FairfieldLife] Re: BSG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: Any fans out there? It is all coming together in such an amazing way. My guess, there are no humans left, everybody is a Cylon! Big fan, but my latest episode is still downloading, so I can't comment on last night's revelations. :-( Your theory has been mine ever since the first episode in this season, when Dee croaked herself and Kara found out she had been somehow reincarnated. My theory is that Dee (like the Final Four) had some flashbacks while on Earth of her previous time there and realized the truth and couldn't live with it. But that's just a theory, and the writers of the series have said clearly that they make it up as they go along, with no present plan in mind, so anything could happen. Note: although this discussion has a few spoilers in it, I don't think we have to worry, because no one who isn't already a fan is going to bother to go back and watch five seasons of BSG from the start and have anything ruined for them. All I can say is that I hope Dee comes back because she was a babe. South African actress, gorgeous in that way that only mixed-race humans can be gorgeous. There is something magical about throwing a bunch of genes into a blender and seeing what happens. My fave blend is the Maori royalty, a blend of New Zealand Maori and 17th-century Scottish immigrants. Takes human beauty to new levels.
