[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi, IMO, has a quality of severe and intense focus. Personal anger, what I beleive the gita is referring

[FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A working automobile will take you to a given location. A broken down '78 Chevy might get you there. A Volkswagen will get you there cheaper. A Porsche will get you there faster, more expensively, and in class. And

[FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A working automobile will take you to a given location. A broken down '78 Chevy might get you there. A Volkswagen will get you there

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Masters and Yogis

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you are qualified to discriminate between them? Yes I am. And there's the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karl Rove's/ Mantra-Divide and Rule...'

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's all around nasty stuff. I'm amazed the SC decided this way. It was a 5-4 decision though. Yeah, but so were the results of the 2000 Presidential election. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either that or it could mean that your assumption about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect. :-) Just joking around because I *don't* assume that he is Self-realized. But I do agree with you that no behavior

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting allusion to Rgveda in the Giitaa?

2005-06-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XIII 13 (12?) jñeyam yat tat pravakSyaami yaj jñaatvaa'mRtam ashnute anaadimat paraM brahma *na sat tan naasad ucyate* (na; sat;

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting allusion to Rgveda in the Giitaa?

2005-06-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XIII 13 (12?) jñeyam yat tat pravakSyaami yaj

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Vaj
On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:39 AM, sparaig wrote: My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs to take into account where MMY has been. If you look at it objectively M. is the CEO of a meditation and meditation goods and service organization. The vast majority who learned

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Vaj
On Jun 24, 2005, at 9:37 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Use a shiva mantra. I also have used Om Rama Krishna Hari which is recommended in Dr. Ranade's (sp?) ayurvedic book for calming pitta with good success. Also be sure you don't have a vata aggravation too. Both pitta and vata can get

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:38 AM, sparaig wrote: SSRS isn't ever going to be interviewed on national TV in the USA based on his reputation from 30 years previously, now is he? Lawson, indulge me here. Are you seriously trying to make a case for a spiritual teacher's worth or validity being

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either that or it could mean that your assumption about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect. :-) Just joking around because I *don't* assume that he is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that's all good and fine, but are you understanding this to mean that a realized person

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karl Rove's/ Mantra-Divide and Rule...'

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's all around nasty stuff. I'm amazed the SC decided this way. It was a 5-4 decision though. Yeah, but so were the results of the 2000 Presidential election.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A working automobile will take you to a given location. A broken down '78 Chevy might get you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A working automobile will take you to a given location. A broken down '78 Chevy might get you there. A Volkswagen will get you there cheaper. A Porsche will get you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen SS Ravi Shankar angry? Karunamayi? Mother Meera? Its near impossible for me to concieve of anger within them. For the last master you mentioned I am probably one of the very few people who could answer

[FairfieldLife] Jacques in the Street

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
Hey Unc, what does the average, Jacques in the street think about America? Any interesting conversations with your average French dude? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi, IMO, has a quality of severe and intense focus.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman/Attn Cardmeister

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen SS Ravi Shankar angry? Karunamayi? Mother Meera? Its near impossible for me to concieve of anger within them. For the last master you mentioned I am

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/24/05 2:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi, IMO, has a quality of severe and intense focus. Personal anger, what I beleive the gita is referring to, is a very scattered,

[FairfieldLife] Another letter sent to reporter about meditation increasing life span- feel free to use this

2005-06-25 Thread Ron F
Dear Sir/Madam: With reference to your article about Meditation and increasing life span: If a study were released to the Associated press proving that Johnson and Johnson's brand baby food takes away a baby's rash, it would be if very irresponsible if the press reported-all brands of baby food

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs to take into account where MMY has been. Without at all intending to detract from your most commendable devotion to MMY, I would merely suggest that

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs to take into account where MMY has been. Without at all intending to detract from your most

[FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2005, at 5:37 PM, t3rinity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tantric mantras manifest in the dimension beyond mind in certain adepts throughout history. That

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman/Attn Cardmeister

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Cardmeister, do you know what the sanskrit word is that is being translated as anger in English? I think it's krodha. 1 krodha m. anger , wrath , passion VS. xxx , 14 AV. S3Br. c. ; (ifc. f. %{A}) Amar. ; Anger (personified as a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/25/05 12:35 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, that's all good and fine, but are you understanding this to mean that a realized person can not exhibit angry behavior? Why would that occur? Forget

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Vaj
On Jun 25, 2005, at 9:12 AM, t3rinity wrote: In my eyes you are narrowing down the way mantras can be used, A gross (and typical) error on your part--deliberate obfuscation as per your usual alt.m.t antics! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who you calling pig-dung, boy! Me and Me alone :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To

[FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 9:12 AM, t3rinity wrote: In my eyes you are narrowing down the way mantras can be used, A gross (and typical) error on your part--deliberate obfuscation as per your usual alt.m.t antics! You know

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who you calling pig-dung, boy! Me and Me alone :-) Wait a minute pal, you have also indicated frequently, that you and me are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why some people get a hit from some teachers and why others have no such experience with those teachers Maybe the subjective exper- iences of the individual seeker say more about the potential resonance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman/Attn Cardmeister

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cardmeister, do you know what the sanskrit word is that is being translated as anger in English? I think it's krodha. 1

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The behavior you miscast as anger in Maharishi, IMO, has a quality of severe and intense focus.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
SSRS said that he could get angry, but that it has a high cost. It's hard to imagine him getting angry, but I have seen him confront someone's organizational shortcomings in a very intense, focused manner that was pure power with no bliss at all. Just like MMY. He said it has a high

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Ingegerd
I think that is a very important statement, and why people are drawing into different spiritual paths. That is why we should respect whatever path people choose. Ingegerd Mr Reddy, Mother Meera's uncle said the same thing. He said that some people may not feel anything, not because they are

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who you calling pig-dung, boy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and Me alone :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I believe you are miscasting this focussed intensity as anger -- the explosive, chaotic flaming thing. These are two very different behaviors or states. As such it becomes a matter of definition. What do you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Vaj
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:08 AM, t3rinity wrote: Why only connected to it? Why not BE it? When referring to separateness it is helpful to point out that you can BE connected. Not everyone experiences that. The realization is that all arises interdependently, the network and the node, so yes

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who you calling pig-dung, boy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and Me alone :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karl Rove's/ Mantra-Divide and Rule...'

2005-06-25 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/24/05 11:33:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it seems like local town and state governments inmany locations are interpreting it this way. "Publicgood" is now understood to include economic benefitfrom an increased tax rate on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
Either that or it could mean that your assumption about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect. :-) Just joking around because I *don't* assume that he is Self-realized. But I do agree with you that no behavior is inconsistent with enlightenment. Well, within

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes,

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:38 AM, sparaig wrote: SSRS isn't ever going to be interviewed on national TV in the USA based on his reputation from 30 years previously, now is he? Lawson, indulge me here. Are you

[FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 9:12 AM, t3rinity wrote: In my eyes you are narrowing down the way mantras can be used, A gross (and typical) error on your part--deliberate obfuscation as per your usual alt.m.t antics! the

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who you calling pig-dung, boy! Me and Me alone :-) Oh, I'm pig-dung and I'm OK... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just stated that I don't assume that Maharishi is Self-realized/enlightened, and you want

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They both do much more charitable work than the TMO ever did (any charitable work would be more). They're each going about it in their own way. But

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just stated that

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:39 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. MMY did a very good job popularizing TM. My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs to take into account where MMY

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Vaj
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:46 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:38 AM, sparaig wrote: SSRS isn't ever going to be interviewed on national TV in the USA based on his reputation from 30 years previously, now is he? He

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Vaj
On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:47 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:39 AM, sparaig wrote: My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs to take into account where MMY has been. If you look at it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume MMY is enlightened in the same way I assume I exist ..this belongs in Pseud's Corner of Private Eye magazine viz:

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 8:09 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is simply that judging someone else in contrast to MMY needs to take

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen SS Ravi Shankar angry? Karunamayi? Mother Meera? Its near impossible for me to concieve of anger within them. For the last master you mentioned I am probably one of the very few people who could

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read the full gita text, quote after quote. Upon reading that, and in your personal experience of silence and wholness, tell us what role does anger play for spritually absorbed, spiritually mature people?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume MMY is enlightened in the same way I assume I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last part of the 70ths I was in Seelisberg to celebrate the 12th of January, I think. MMY had some idea that it was CIA-people in the Hall. He was angry, but not in the way that he was screaming. The Hall was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The behavior you

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 8:09 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Ingegerd
I do not know how many still is practising TM - but many continues because they feel good about it - regardless of MMY and the TMO.The common TM-practitionar do not care much about MMY - they have never met him, only seen him on tapes during the Initiation Course. They only care about their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:05 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The behavior you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Read the full gita text, quote after quote. Upon reading that, and in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 24, 2005, at 11:48 PM, anonymousff wrote: In all seriousness, what does anger or the lack thereof have to do with enlightenment? Are you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman/Attn Car

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SSRS said that he could get angry, but that it has a high cost. It's hard to imagine him getting angry, but I have seen him confront someone's organizational shortcomings in a very intense, focused manner that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should I consider the Gita authoritative? Because you do? Hell no, boy, you should consider the Gita authoritative because the Bible says so. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I believe you are miscasting this focussed intensity as anger -- the explosive, chaotic flaming thing. These are two very different

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should I consider the Gita authoritative? Because you do? Hell no, boy, you should consider the Gita authoritative because the Bible says so. Well, we all know

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 1:39 AM, sparaig wrote: My point is simply that judging

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 12:35 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Ingegerd
As Enlightened, He should be beyond fear. Better for the SCI-Guys, if they were present, to listen to the knowledge than being hit by MMYs frustration and the whole audience was hit by the frustration as well. It was really paranoid, as you said. Ingegerd Not to comment on MMY's paranoia or

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Karl Rove's/ Mantra-Divide and Rule...'

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/25/05 12:35:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's the justification. However, the conservative judges were mostly against it. Yes and we need several more strict

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his mocassins... What if he goes barefoot? Than either judge him immediately or not at all... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/25/05 8:09 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread marekreavis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: **SNIP** I feel M.'s own characterization of himself not as the guru, but as a doorkeeper to the tradition is an honest and poignant one--because truly even if many did not remain with TM, he opened an important door for a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Peter Sutphen
It is great posts like this that make FFL worth reading. Thanks Anon, nice job. --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ??? Anger, like all other experience, is a relative thing. While someone in Unity may well be one with the anger, you can make a case that the analysis of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So Sparig, while you are correct that Atman is not disturbed by anger (fear or craving), also the mind (manas) of the self-realized is not agitated and distured, overcome, lost, become unglued or unfocused by

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Enlightened, He should be beyond fear. Better for the SCI-Guys, if they were present, to listen to the knowledge than being hit by MMYs frustration and the whole audience was hit by the frustration as well. It was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, we all know that God wrote the bible, but who in the hell wrote that thar Gita thang? Could be the devil, don't know. Wanna be prudent. Of COURSE it was the devil, or one of them false gods, since my God is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either that or it could mean that your assumption about Maharishi's enlightenment is incorrect. :-) Just joking around

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] So Sparig, while you are correct that Atman is not disturbed by anger (fear or craving), also the mind (manas) of the self-realized is not

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: on 6/24/05 10:43 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/24/05 2:38 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never met SSRS. I'm sure Amma is, so I'm not implying, I'm

[FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/25/05 9:49 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be interesting to hear others experiences in the area of TM and laxity. Well, aside from the advice given that people who find themselves sleeping a lot during TM should sleep more BEFORE TM? BTW, I go through periods

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: choice of mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A working automobile will take you to a given location. A broken down '78 Chevy might get you there. A Volkswagen will get you there cheaper. A Porsche will get you there faster, more expensively,

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote: On Jun 24, 2005, at 9:37 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Use a shiva mantra. I also have used Om Rama Krishna Hari which is recommended in Dr. Ranade's (sp?) ayurvedic book for calming pitta with good success. Also be sure you don't have a vata aggravation too. Both pitta and vata can

[FairfieldLife] Global country gets loan, tax break for Manhatten building

2005-06-25 Thread Ron F
The city’s Industrial Development Agency approved financing assistance to help two industrial companies and four nonprofits and grow their business. The aid will help generate about $80 million in private investment and create about 130 new jobs. Global Country of World Peace, a nonprofit

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re: Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/25/05 10:39 AM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know how many still is practising TM - but many continues because they feel good about it - regardless of MMY and the TMO.The common TM-practitionar do not care much about MMY - they have never met him, only seen him on tapes

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Spirituality/Karl Rove/Division and Fear...'

2005-06-25 Thread Bhairitu
Robert Gimbel wrote: In order to contrast the policies of the Bush Administration, with Spirituality, we use the example of Jesus. Jesus taught above all the unifying principle of brotherhood and love. On the other hand, Mr. Rove and his philosophers have taught and propagated division, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global country gets loan, tax break for Manhatten building

2005-06-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Global Country of World Peace, a nonprofit alternative health care services provider, was authorized to receive $6.2 million tax-exempt bond financing and a mortgage recording tax waiver of $175,000. The Iowa-based

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/25/05 8:54 AM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might also consider getting a mantra from Ammachi if you can get to one of her tour cities (http://amma.org/tours/amma-tours/n_america.html). She knows a thing or two about imparting mantras. I'm curious, Rick, as when I was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting allusion to Rgveda in the Giitaa?

2005-06-25 Thread cardemaister
Oops, I'm afraid A.C's (Vaishnavite??) interpretation of anaadimatparaM brahma (anaadi-matparaM brahma) might be the more likely one, after all... :/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Rahu and Ketu Beeja Mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Rahu and Ketu Beeja Mantras The last 2 of the beeja mantras are for Rahu and Ketu. These are not actually planets as many of you know. They are opposite values of the same solar/lunar function with rahu being the shadow on the moon in a lunar eclipse and ketu being the shadow on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Vaj
On Jun 25, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I also find that some gentle attentiveness vs. allowing the mind to just mess around makes a big difference in terms of clarity and frequency of transcending. At Estes Park, M quoted the Vedas as saying, Be easy to us with gentle effort.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anger and Self-Realized, Liberated Sages/Yogis Absorbed in Brahman

2005-06-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Laxity, was: For Vaj Re:Pitta-aggravating mantras

2005-06-25 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/25/05 12:35 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I also find that some gentle attentiveness vs. allowing the mind to just mess around makes a big difference in terms of clarity and frequency of transcending. At Estes Park, M quoted

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