madhu-kara-raajan (honey-maker-king) = queen-bee
From Vyaasa's bhaaSya on YS II 54 (pratyaahaara):
yathaa *madhukara-raajaM* makSikaa utpatantamanuutpatanti
nivishamaanamanunivishante tathendriyaaNi citta-nirodhe
niruddhaaniityeSa pratyaahaaraH
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How about thread hijacking? Look how deep the threads get here
when there are actually several
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yeah but I never said what he is alluding to, that an absence of
thoughts is indicative of a lack of progress during TM. I'm not
sure
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madhu-kara-raajan (honey-maker-king) = queen-bee
On Jun 27, 2005, at 1:14 AM, John wrote:
It appears that Mantreshwar, if he were alive today, would consider
TM as a form of Buddhist practice.
If he were he would be wrong. TM does not teach the four noble truths
or bodhichitta, therefore it would not qualify :-) Since it has not
created
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Who is the other non-TM teacher? Moi?
Mentioned only because someone (I don't know who) asked.
I don't know why that person asked. Perhaps they noticed
what I have, that on Internet TM-related forums often the
people who
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 1:14 AM, John wrote:
It appears that Mantreshwar, if he were alive today, would consider
TM as a form of Buddhist practice.
If he were he would be wrong. TM does not teach the four noble truths
or
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Who is the other non-TM teacher? Moi?
Mentioned only because someone (I don't know who) asked.
I don't know why that person asked. Perhaps
on 6/27/05 4:07 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nonsense, I was just pointing out how threads get in a mess
here. I'm sure I'm not the only one who notices.
The real culprit is Yahoo. There is good BB software out
there. FFL could either migrate to it, or have someone
as stern
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[snipt* --see?]
Or we could exercise a little more self-discipline and change the
subject
line when we change the subject, as I just did with this post.
Snipping
would help too. People are still routinely posting
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Who is the other non-TM teacher? Moi?
Mentioned only because someone
Hari Om, It seems America has swept certain things under the carpet. Look-up at this Web-Link,
http://www.doublestandards.org/drayton1.html
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Having practiced both styles of meditation, I can
attest to the fact that using certain styles of focused
or concentrative meditation,
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 1:14 AM, John wrote:
It appears that Mantreshwar, if he were alive today, would consider
TM as a form of Buddhist practice.
If he were he would be wrong. TM does not teach the four noble
truths
or
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 7:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
What accumulations are those? Is Zen a non-buddhist technique?
The accumulations of a Buddha, merit and wisdom.
Re: Zen, go to Google, put in the words 'Zen Buddhism' and click
search.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/04/020408075854.htm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/05/29/CMGD8CH62P1.DTL
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Well, considering that Gautama was a prince in Vedic kingdom,
trained by Brahmin priests and who learned Sanskrit and the Vedas in
depth, it is not surprising that what he taught (or rather what his
disciples taught) was a form of Vedic knowledge. It is like the
difference between Catholicism
On Jun 27, 2005, at 8:23 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
This is not true.
Bevin the Buddha.
If you see him by the road, swerve.
...but you might want to make sure you are in a Hummer first :-)
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And I transcended once whilst standing on my my hands riding a
bicycle, eating candy floss, singing Monty Python's always look
on the bright side of life. And then I hit a bump.
It's the Monty Python song that
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yeah but I never said what he is alluding to, that an absence of
thoughts is indicative of a lack of progress during TM. I'm not
sure
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 8:42 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
However, once he was safely dead, they had a change
of heart and claimed that the same guy they'd been
demonizing had miraculously become an incarnation of
Vishnu.
Also Shiva depending on who you talk to.
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TM as a form of Buddhist practice.Regards,John R.
-But if you're not a Buddhist you can't
rightly say though. Moreover, there is not just one form of Buddhist
meditation.
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 7:46 AM, sparaig wrote:
What accumulations are those? Is Zen a non-buddhist technique?
The accumulations of a Buddha, merit and wisdom.
Re: Zen, go to Google, put in the words 'Zen Buddhism' and
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It's a cyberstalking thang, Jim. :-)
I just used a phrase that I'd heard from many TMers
who had grown concerned that because thoughts
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 1:14 AM, John wrote:
It appears that Mantreshwar, if he were alive today, would
consider
TM as a form of Buddhist
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The real culprit is Yahoo. There is good BB software out
there. FFL could either migrate to it, or have someone
as stern as Stalin imposing discipline, or kidnap the
children of Yahoo's Chief of Software and hold
On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Llundrub wrote:
-But if you're not a Buddhist you can't rightly say though. Moreover, there is not just one form of Buddhist meditation.
What's interesting, at very least as history, is that it appears Advaita Vedanta--both that of Shankara and his paramguru
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And I transcended once whilst standing on my my hands riding a
bicycle, eating candy floss, singing Monty Python's always look
on
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 8:23 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
This is not true.
Bevin the Buddha.
If you see him by the road, swerve.
...but you might want to make sure you are in a Hummer first :-)
But if you swerve, be
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Well, considering that Gautama was a prince in Vedic kingdom,
trained by Brahmin priests and who learned Sanskrit and the
Vedas
in
On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, sparaig wrote:
You have no idea what accumulations of merit and wisdom the long-term
witnessing folk show.
Then tell. I'm listening.
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:15 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
No, that is a myth. Made up. No historical evidence. They barely
noticed his few hundred followers.
Isn't that kinda like saying people barely noticed Shankara's four
followers?
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Just to put this stalker silliness in some sort of
perspective before going back to ignoring her, the
stalker in question said on a.mt. only *two days ago*,
with regard to moi:
Actually things have been *vastly* more pleasant
here since you decided you'd have more luck
putting over your phony
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Llundrub wrote:
-But if you're not a Buddhist you can't rightly say though.
Moreover, there is not just one form of Buddhist meditation.
What's interesting, at very least as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:15 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
No, that is a myth. Made up. No historical evidence. They barely
noticed his few hundred followers.
Isn't that kinda like saying people barely noticed Shankara's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If he were he would be wrong. TM does not teach the four noble
truths
or bodhichitta, therefore it would not qualify :-) Since it has not
created any Buddhas it could not be considered a path to
enlightenment--after all
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If he were he would be wrong. TM does not teach the four noble
truths
or bodhichitta, therefore it would not qualify :-) Since it has
not
On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
(I love the smell of dogma in the morning)
It's just the facts m'am!
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Just to put this stalker silliness in some sort of
perspective
The stalker silliness is put in perspective by
noting the fact that Barry *invited* alt.m.t
participants to join FFL.
before going back to ignoring her,
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The real culprit is Yahoo. There is good BB software out
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as stern as Stalin
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, sparaig wrote:
You have no idea what accumulations of merit and wisdom the
long-term
witnessing folk show.
Then tell. I'm listening.
Researchers at MUM had subjects fill out various
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:15 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
No, that is a myth. Made up. No historical evidence. They barely
noticed his few hundred followers.
Isn't that kinda like saying people barely noticed Shankara's
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[...]
I'm happy to oblige. a.m.t.
just isn't interesting enough these days to read
regularly.
So you don't like the thread on AI, Turing Tests, consciousness,
spirituality and so on?
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(I love the smell of dogma in the morning)
It's just the facts m'am!
Facts? We don't need no stinking facts! :-)
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, sparaig wrote:
You have no idea what accumulations of merit and wisdom the
long-term
witnessing folk show.
Then tell. I'm listening.
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[...]
OK, I'll give it a try:
As bees follow the queen-bee when she flies out or returns
to the nest (a rather free translation) so do indriyas become
niruddha in citta-nirodha; that's called pratyaahaara.
1 indriya a.
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I'm happy to oblige. a.m.t.
just isn't interesting enough these days to read
regularly.
So you don't like the thread on AI, Turing Tests,
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
(I love the smell of dogma in the morning)
It's just the facts m'am!
Just out of curiosity -- did you ever take the Keirsey/Jung
personality test? I am wondering if you (and
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
(I love the smell of dogma in the morning)
It's just the facts m'am!
Just out of curiosity -- did you ever take the Keirsey/Jung
personality test? I am wondering if you (and
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, sparaig wrote:
You have no idea what accumulations of merit and wisdom the
On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
(I love the smell of dogma in the morning)
It's just the facts m'am!
Just out of curiosity -- did you ever take the
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Shankara traditionally is said to have debated all the great
spiritual leaders/gurus of his time in order to prove their
understanding of enlightenment false (or something).
Explains a lot about the TM approach to other
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, sparaig wrote:
You have no idea what accumulations of merit
and wisdom the
long-term
witnessing folk
On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:36 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
Oh yea, this from a guy that posts some California dude with his toy
EEG machine showing his empty mind.
Well Off, it's a casual experiment, I would hope you wouldn't take it
as any more than that. The most interesting thing is that he
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Just out of curiosity -- did you ever take the Keirsey/Jung
personality test? I am wondering if you (and Bob Brigante) might be
something like a --TJ, as opposed to an --FP, for example...
I ask this as I am tempted to
On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
Good assessment instruments for self-report measures
take a good amount of time to develop because of the
above problems. The questions need to have low face
validity (i.e., it is not self-evident what is a
good or a bad response). The
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Pretty hard person to find.
Well for starters one might look at the rather large pool of
disaffected ex-TMers, particuarly ones exhibiting strong anti-TM bias,
and examine some of them for signs of enlightenment :-)
To
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Llundrub wrote:
-But if you're not a Buddhist you can't
rightly say though.
Moreover, there is not just one form of Buddhist
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
Good assessment instruments for self-report
measures
take a good amount of time to develop because of
the
above problems. The questions need to have low
face
validity (i.e., it is not
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I actually have a friend who is licensed to give that test and I
took
the long test (as opposed to the short ones you see on the net). I
guess the results are broken down into four pairs. I fell in the
middle
on all four
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, sparaig wrote:
You have no idea what accumulations of merit and wisdom the
On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
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wrote:
Just out of curiosity -- did you ever take the Keirsey/Jung
personality test? I am wondering if you (and Bob Brigante) might be
something like a --TJ, as opposed to an
On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pretty hard person to find.
Well for starters one might look at the rather large pool of
disaffected ex-TMers, particuarly ones exhibiting strong anti-TM bias,
and examine some
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
[...]
Good assessment instruments for self-report measures
take a good amount of time to develop because of the
above problems. The questions need to have low face
validity (i.e., it is not self-evident what is a
good or a bad response).
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
Good assessment instruments for self-report measures
take a good amount of time to develop because of the
above problems. The questions need to have low face
validity
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Llundrub wrote:
-But if you're not a
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I actually have a friend who is licensed to give that test and I
took
the long test (as opposed to the short ones you see on the net). I
guess the results are broken down into four pairs. I fell in the
middle
on all four
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snip
The concept of Maya is clearly stated in the Rig
Veda Richo Akshare
verse, and many other places. It is a constant
theme, and to say
that Buddha invented it
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[...]
There's some good research in TM and some really
crappy research in TM. Most of the crappy research
comes about because pilot studies are being done with
marginal research designs because the researcher is
looking for some effect
Vaj, I was thinking of putting a website together that consists of all
robust scientific research published in serious peer-reviewed
scientific journals. The above would be my criteria for inclusion.
I think there is some on Buddhist meditation and Tibetan meditation.
Do you know the
On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:22 AM, authfriend wrote:
MMY's translation of the Richo Akshare verse:
The verses of Veda exist in the collapse of fullness in the
transcendental field, in which reside all the impulses of creative
intelligence, the laws of Nature, responsible for the whole manifest
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I guess you would have to find someone like that. I think your
issue is that when responses are made in regards to a particular
path you are assuming that is what I Vaj or someone else believes.
Paths are relative.
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It would be even more interesting to look at the pool who simply see
things as they are.
Of course, but if you are looking specifically to eliminate pro-TM
bias, you might want to select from anti-TM those-who-see-things-as-
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Vaj, I was thinking of putting a website together that consists of
all
robust scientific research published in serious peer-reviewed
scientific journals. The above would be my criteria for inclusion.
The
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:22 AM, authfriend wrote:
MMY's translation of the Richo Akshare verse:
The verses of Veda exist in the collapse of fullness in the
transcendental field, in which reside all the impulses of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:22 AM, authfriend wrote:
MMY's translation of the Richo Akshare verse:
The verses of Veda exist in the collapse of fullness in the
transcendental field, in which reside all the impulses of
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Shankara traditionally is said to have debated all the great
spiritual leaders/gurus of his time in order to prove their
understanding of
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Vaj, I was thinking of putting a website together that consists of
all
robust scientific research published in serious peer-reviewed
On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:37 AM, sparaig wrote:
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, no?
The question would be: is MMY's translation ad hoc? If it is accurate,
than the claim that maya is a buddhist invention seems strained...
Well I never said that it was an invention. I merely pointed out that
Maya
On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:44 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
This is great. Thanks.
Does anyone know ? Was Herbert Benson a TM researcher, practitioner? I
know he later proved that people relaxing were in fact, relaxing, and
that Tibetan Buddhists could increase the temperature of their toes.
But
On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:15 AM, sparaig wrote:
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 10:36 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
Oh yea, this from a guy that posts some California dude with his toy
EEG machine showing his empty mind.
Well Off, it's a
Shankara traditionally is said to have debated all the great
spiritual leaders/gurus of his time in order to prove their
understanding of enlightenment false (or something).
Explains a lot about the TM approach to other
forms of spiritual development, n'est-ce pas? :-)
I'm
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Vaj, I was thinking of putting a website together that
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:37 AM, sparaig wrote:
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, no?
The question would be: is MMY's translation ad hoc? If it is
accurate,
than the claim that maya is a buddhist invention seems
strained...
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Shankara traditionally is said to have debated all the great
spiritual leaders/gurus of his time in order to prove their
understanding of enlightenment false (or something).
Explains a lot about the TM
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My point is that there are many spiritual traditions
on the planet that would never even *conceive* of
entering into a debate with another tradition to
prove their understanding of enlightenment false
(or, if the
on 6/27/05 10:44 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is great. Thanks.
Does anyone know ? Was Herbert Benson a TM researcher, practitioner? I
know he later proved that people relaxing were in fact, relaxing, and
that Tibetan Buddhists could increase the temperature of their
On Jun 27, 2005, at 12:08 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Clearly, if the story you refer to is true, that
was not true for Shankara, and for his tradition.
Wasn't Shankara's debate trip about Dvaita vs. Advaita?
Arguably his most famous work, the Brahma-sutra-bhasya, is all about
how he feels
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Shankara traditionally is said to have debated all the
great
spiritual leaders/gurus of his time in order to prove
their
I read this stuff but don't always look at what journal it's in etc.
Since much of this is on the web, it should be easy to find--esp. if
you have Medline or similar access. I've read the abridged accounts of
the Science and Life series and they contain numerous refs.
On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:25
Barry and Judy,
Please stop the tivial ego wars. We don't care about your age old
grievances from AMT. You are both inteligent and interesting people
with positive things to contribute. Lick your old wounds, and focus on
things beyond your wounded egos.
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On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
Yes, I guess this is where we differ -- I honestly don't think
any path is going to take us anywhere other than here, and so I
don't think Buddhahood can be achieved at all. Rather, we do
what we do until we don't, if you see what I mean.
And
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Barry and Judy,
Please stop the tivial ego wars. We don't care about your age old
grievances from AMT. You are both inteligent and interesting people
with positive things to contribute. Lick your old wounds, and
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