--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I hadn't ever really understood -- or thought about --
> why the intellect needs to be sharp to realize enlightenment.
> Or if I did, I forgot what I knew. So the explanation below was
> interesting. Thanks.
>
I hadn't ever really understood -- or thought about --
why the intellect needs to be sharp to realize enlightenment.
Or if I did, I forgot what I knew. So the explanation below was
interesting. Thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In Fa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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> > One of the characteristics of resting the mind in the Natural,
non-
> > dual State is that thoughts will not repeat themselves in
samsaric
> > chains--they self-liberate of and by themselves, "like a snake
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:13 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> --- In Fai
re: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/84484
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[BIG SNIP]
> My sense of the vasanas are the tight grip of residue and
structure of
> conditionings and experiences that make "I" appear to be the body
o
On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:13 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:33 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:33 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Use of the
On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:33 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Use of the term the "non-dual state", in this context, appears odd to me. Maintaining pure awareness while holding a though
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:33 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:20 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> It would s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:33 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
>
> > Use of the term the "non-dual state", in this context, appears odd to
> > me. Maintaining pure awareness while holding a thought, consciousness
> > glowing within i
On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:33 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:20 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: It would seem if the "so-called" non-dual state is enough to unknot the knot of samskara, then it is enough to prevent its r
On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:33 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:Use of the term the "non-dual state", in this context, appears odd to me. Maintaining pure awareness while holding a thought, consciousness glowing within itself -- akin to a developing yet not complete TMO CC state -- appears to be what you are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:20 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
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> > It would seem if the "so-called" non-dual state is enough to unknot
> > the knot of samskara, then it is enough to prevent its re-knotting.
> > Stick through water s
> One of the characteristics of resting the mind in the Natural, non-
> dual State is that thoughts will not repeat themselves in samsaric
> chains--they self-liberate of and by themselves, "like a snake
> untying itself from a knot". The nice thing is, if we can experience
> thought from th
On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:20 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:It would seem if the "so-called" non-dual state is enough to unknot the knot of samskara, then it is enough to prevent its re-knotting. Stick through water sort of thing. samsara, not samskara.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> One of the characteristics of resting the mind in the Natural, non-
> dual State is that thoughts will not repeat themselves in samsaric
> chains--they self-liberate of and by themselves, "like a snake
> untying itself
On Jan 10, 2006, at 7:50 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:I dunno... maybe my thinking is muddled, but Akashanon's comment didn't strike me as the least bit funny. Yesterday, while alone on a trip to Iowa City, the sentence, "A clear, finely tuned intellect is necessary for realization and appreciation o
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That there are apparent contradict
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That there are apparent contrad
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > That there are apparent contradiction
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > That there are apparent contradictions as consciousness unfolds,
> > does not imply that ALL contradictory statements are valid
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > "This is not a problem of semantics, nuance and poetic
> > > > differences. The four statments together are a farce.
> > > > It
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > Thanks for this. I haven't had such a good la
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[Big Snip]
> Usually people who have something to contribute towards a discussion
> do so. Those that don't but feel a sense of disagreement -- often
> unspecified and unarticulated -- simply attack the poster. I think
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Thanks for this. I haven't had such a good laug
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Thanks for this. I haven't had such a good laugh
> > in days.
>
>
> Usually people who have something to contribute towards a
> dis
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > That there are apparent contradictions as consciousness unfolds,
> > does not imply that ALL contradictory statements are valid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> That there are apparent contradictions as consciousness unfolds,
> does not imply that ALL contradictory statements are valid or
> "enlightened". Doublespeak, masquerading as rational or superior
> insights, is t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > "HAHAHAHA.
> >
> > Peter, the ever extending audacity of your
> > doublespeak, and that of
> > your pals, never ceases to
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> wrote:
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> "HAHAHAHA.
>
> Peter, the ever extending audacity of your
> doublespeak, and that of
> your pals, never ceases to amaze me. "There
> absolutely is no
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Hey, I just hopped on after watching the Giants
> > getting there asses handed to them.Guess I'll have
> > to see what this is all ab
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What was your favorite saying again
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > What was your favorite saying again Jim?
> >
> > Oh yes. "The world is as we are". Nice saying
>
> Nice saying?...and you w
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> > > Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, double talk is
> > > just double talk, a
> > > hoax is just a hoax, absurdity is just absurdity."
>
> And a latte is just a latte--case closed.
Not at the "TM cafe." If yo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Hey, I just hopped on after watching the Giants
> getting there asses handed to them.Guess I'll have
> to see what this is all about.
The game would have been more interesting.
Today's discussion seems to be about peop
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> >
> > Same thing, amongst other things, Jimi Hendrix meant when he
sang a
> > few years later "Are you Experienced?"
>
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> Same thing, amongst other things, Jimi Hendrix meant when he sang a
> few years later "Are you Experienced?"
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Are You Experienced?
If you can just get your mind together (jivan mukti)
then come acros
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >
> > > DO yuo know what "grok" means?
> >
> > Just what I got from Heinlein and how it's used in common use now.
> >
> > Read Stranger i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:17 PM, sparaig wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, if you mean enlightenm
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>
> On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:17 PM, sparaig wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, if you mean enlightenm
On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:17 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Well, if you mean enlightenment to mean "something good is happening", then fine. Its just traditionally the term has been used in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
>
> > Well, if you mean enlightenment to mean "something good is
happening",
> > then fine. Its just traditionally the term has been used in
specific
> > ways. And in rec
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> --You could be a Nichiren Shoshu Buddhist, without knowing it.
Are you referring to me (a_non_moose_ff)?
> This
> is a "desire" oriented form of Buddhism, 180deg. in contrast to most
> traditional sects of Buddhism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> Yes, it does sound a bit odd, but the problem is that
> there is no subjective self or "me" that any word
> points to. So you can say, "I'm cold," but there is no
> "I", there's just cold.
>
> I have not been posting
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yaho
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Same with the person who says there *is
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>
>
> "Howewer I find no reason to assume as a priori
> true that Peter is a
> gifted psychotherapist or that this is his stategy.
>
> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, double talk is
> ju
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
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> > > That doesn't mean the person who i
Hey, I just hopped on after watching the Giants
getting there asses handed to them.Guess I'll have
to see what this is all about.
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> wrote:
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> "Howewer I fin
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
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> > wrote:
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> > > That doesn't mean the person who is enlightened
> > > can't speak
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > That doesn't mean the person who is enlightened
> > can't speak about what the self is feeling, e.g., insulted.
>
> Not in this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Yeah, I said awhile back that there is an ego experienced in
> enlightenment, and made it clear at the time that the identification
> shifts from self to Self. This can also be interpreted as the
> disappearance of th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Yeah, I said awhile back that there is an ego experienced in
> enlightenment, and made it clear at the time that the identification
> shifts from self to Self. This can also be interpreted as the
> disappearance o
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same with the person who says there *is* ego in
> > enlightenment; they may be referring to the self rather
> > than the Self but simp
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>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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>
>
> "Howewer I find no reason to assume as a priori true that Peter is a
> gifted psychotherapist or that this is his
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wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same with the person who says there *is* ego in
> > enlightenment; they may be referring to the self rather
> > than the Self but simp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
"Howewer I find no reason to assume as a priori true that Peter is a
gifted psychotherapist or that this is his stategy.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, double talk is just double talk, a
hoax is just a hoax
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Same with the person who says there *is* ego in
> enlightenment; they may be referring to the self rather
> than the Self but simply not making that distinction
> clear. It might be if you sat 'em both down and asked
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2006, at 1:31 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > But when the person says there is no ego in enlightenment,
> > perhaps they are speaking of the Self, what they now
> > identify with. The trick is to make it clear whic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > But in the specifics of this particular discussion, the poetic
> analogy
> > does not hold up. We are not talking about various
On Jan 8, 2006, at 1:31 PM, authfriend wrote:But when the person says there is no ego in enlightenment, perhaps they are speaking of the Self, what they now identify with. The trick is to make it clear which--self or Self--is the referent in a particular statement. If it's not made clear, confu
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wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >
> > > Well, Anon, the only solution is to "get" e
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>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> "HAHAHAHA.
>
> Peter, the ever extending audacity of your doublespeak, and that of
> your pals, never ceases to amaze
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well, Anon, the only solution is to "get" enlightened
> > and join the fun. But in all seriousness, the
> > difference in expressions and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
"HAHAHAHA.
Peter, the ever extending audacity of your doublespeak, and that of
your pals, never ceases to amaze me. "There absolutely is no ego in
E., but there is an ego in E. ... la de dah".
Also the mark
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, Anon, the only solution is to "get" enlightened
> and join the fun. But in all seriousness, the
> difference in expressions and attitudes regarding
> enlightenment are just the impact of That on different
> "mind-strea
HAHAHAHA.
Peter, the ever extending audacity of your doublespeak, and that of
your pals, never ceases to amaze me. "There absolutely is no ego in
E., but there is an ego in E. ... la de dah".
Its a technique of cults to ask memebers to acccpt as true bigger and
bigger lies and inconsistencies.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Well, Anon, the only solution is to "get" enlightened
and join the fun. But in all seriousness, the
difference in expressions and attitudes regarding
enlightenment are just the impact of That on different
"mind-streams (if I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Well, Anon, the only solution is to "get" enlightened
> and join the fun.
For some reason, when I read this I heard the
Kingston Trio singing in the background:
I see by your outfit that you are enlightened
You see my my
On Jan 8, 2006, at 7:06 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 7, 2006, at 6:30 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: I've never had much interest in all that Vedic, Yogic, Brahman, Hiranyagarba, etc. Eastern esoterica, so if the space I've arrived
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 7, 2006, at 6:30 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
> > I've never had much interest in all that Vedic, Yogic, Brahman,
> > Hiranyagarba, etc. Eastern esoterica, so if the space I've
> > arrived in is not Vedicly kosher, I w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I've never had much interest in all that Vedic, Yogic, Brahman,
> Hiranyagarba, etc. Eastern esoterica, so if the space I've arrived in
> is not Vedicly kosher, I won't lose so much as one microsecond of
Amen, bro
>
> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
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> > And I sense vasanas can and do get more radically transformed as
jiva
> > mukti flows in to veheda
I guess "videha (vi-deha) mukti" (~we-day-huh mooktee)
vi (prob. for an original %{dvi} , meaning `" in two parts "' ; and
opp. to %
A Female Lama, named Khandro Rinpoche is coming to Norway teaching
in Tibetanian Buddhism. Does someone know something about her?
Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "coshlnx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --You could be a Nichiren Shoshu Buddhist, without knowing it.
This
> is a "
On Jan 7, 2006, at 7:03 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
>>
>>> Well, if you mean enlightenment to mean "something good is
>>> happening",
>>> then fine. Its just tradition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I've never had much interest in all t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I've never had much interest in all that Vedic, Yogic, Brahman,
> Hiranyagarba, etc. Eastern esoterica, so if the space I've arrived in
> is not Vedicly kosher, I won't lose so much as one microsecond of
> sleep
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
>
> > Well, if you mean enlightenment to mean "something good is happening",
> > then fine. Its just traditionally the term has been used in specific
> > ways. And in recen
On Jan 7, 2006, at 6:30 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: My sense of the vasanas are the tight grip of residue and structure of conditionings and experiences that make "I" appear to be
--You could be a Nichiren Shoshu Buddhist, without knowing it. This
is a "desire" oriented form of Buddhism, 180deg. in contrast to most
traditional sects of Buddhism which have a stern condemnation of
attempting to fulfill "selfish" desires.
In Nichiren's Buddhism, the energy latent in all p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've never had much interest in all that Vedic, Yogic, Brahman,
> > Hiranyagarba, etc. Eastern esoterica, so if the space I've
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
> >
> > > My sense of the vasanas are the tight grip of residue and
structure of
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
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> > My sense of the vasanas are the tight grip of residue and structure of
> > conditionings and experiences that make "I" appear to be the body or
> > mind or intellect.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
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> > My sense of the vasanas are the tight grip of residue and structure of
> > conditionings and experiences that make "I" appear to be the body or
> > mind or intellect.
On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:Well, if you mean enlightenment to mean "something good is happening", then fine. Its just traditionally the term has been used in specific ways. And in recent years some have hijacked the term and used it to label almost anything, BUT implying tha
On Jan 7, 2006, at 4:38 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:My sense of the vasanas are the tight grip of residue and structure of conditionings and experiences that make "I" appear to be the body or mind or intellect. When that grip lossens, then that false sense of I dissolves. But the structure of vasana
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is it your belief that an enl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is it your belief that an e
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Is it your belief that an enlightened person no longer has
> > an ego or conditioned mind?
[snip]
> And I assume, correction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" wrote:
"a_non_moose_ff" wrote:
> My original comments, abve, on Tom's post are part of my periodic
> laughter at the ironies, paradoxes and/or inconsistencies sxpressed by
> so-called self-proclaimed enlightened. Tom procl
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[...]
> The local band of self-proclaimed enlightened on FFL appear to take
> themselves so seriously, and don't seem to have much if any ability to
> laugh at themselves -- and ironies that inevitably arise.
>
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