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2014-11-20 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-20 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, just like that. Good example is Barry's naked and raw envy of my enlightened state. He is at no loss for insults and even screaming in print, about it. He doesn't realize the insights that enlightenment brings to oneself, and would never be able to continue his isolated and nasty

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur wrote : I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two

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2014-11-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
What were you expecting? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Funny about

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2014-11-20 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   I think this brings up an interesting point. How does one define 'enlightenment'. The most overreaching

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2014-11-20 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
like From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor  On 11/19/2014 10:45 AM, Share Long wrote

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2014-11-20 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
like From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor  On 11/19/2014 7:39 AM, steve.sundur wrote

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2014-11-20 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say

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2014-11-20 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, November 19, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Buddhist tradition, I realized

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Buddhist tradition, I realized that the success rate was terrible. People were in it for enlightenment, but very few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
into it. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over. Till it became obvious that no one was getting enlightened

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor From: Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM

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2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning

Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment

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2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
to fulfill my desires. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
to fulfill my desires. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread nablusoss1008
to fulfill my desires. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two teachers whose philosophy you bought into. The second one dies, and then you return to the first. Okay,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LIKE (-: From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Yes, the thing goes full circle, from chasing the dream

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2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor  I've always said the experiencing enlightenment is the thing to say even if it is for a few minutes a day.  Honestly, I think some folks believe that enlightenment will put them in a perpetual state of celestial consciousness as if you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, 2014 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Buddhist tradition, I realized that the success rate was terrible. People were in it for enlightenment, but very few were

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So, there has never been a model, of how an enlightened person acts, as a householder. Maharishi brought out a lot of elements regarding diet, architecture, health, and even fashion (saris and crowns, robes and cream

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So, there has never been a model, of how an enlightened person acts, as a householder. Maharishi brought out a lot of elements regarding diet,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   What were you expecting? He's pretty normal, from what I can tell... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Funny about Adya, I love his writing. But when he came to FF and spoke in person

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2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
is on paper? Doesn't matter. I still love his writing. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor What were you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
.                   —Ursula K. Le Guin From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

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2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   I was just curious - maybe he is not a very flamboyant speaker, or doesn't make an effort to connect with people in his audience

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep. Seems like the idea of average people like me walking around enlightened, with the ability to act in a spontaneous way, is frightening to some. Must be an ego thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
with tiers and tiers of seats. And it was packed for his event. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor I was just

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep. Seems like the idea of average people like me walking around enlightened, with the ability to act in a spontaneous way, is frightening to some. Must be an ego thing. I think it's lack of vision and, yes, envy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   I think this brings up an interesting point. How does one define 'enlightenment'. The most overreaching attempts include the entire universe as a connected unity, and that would imply simply that all that exists is what enlightenment

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I never understood envy - what a useless emotion. Envy must be nature's way of saying, Get off your butt, and Do Something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yep. Seems like the idea of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor I've always said the experiencing enlightenment is the thing to say even if it is for a few minutes a day

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
. *From:* Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor I think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur wrote : I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two teachers whose philosophy you bought into. The second one dies, and then you return to the first. Okay, makes a little more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over. Till it became obvious that no one was getting enlightened even

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I never understood envy - what a useless emotion. Envy must be nature's way of saying, Get off your butt, and Do Something. I think you are absolutely right. Envy could lead to positive action. On the other hand,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur wrote : I guess your TM obsession began the day Fred died? That would make sense. I think Edg called that one. Two teachers

Re: Enlightened householders [was Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor]

2014-11-19 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re ENVY: Yes, I've always regarded it as an odd vice! It's really wishing that you weren't who in fact you are. I mean, I can idly fantasize about being a Wimbledon champion but as I'm not fit, I have minimal will power and couldn't be arsed to train every day, I've clearly never been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread nablusoss1008
Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place that the other rumours have, the place where Marshy has to be a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been unable to produce even a single person they can point at and say, This person is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker. From

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Well this is one I haven't heard before - certificates of enlightenment??? What bs. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with the signposts of higher consciousness outlined by M. I always had a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. Of course it was rubbish but it comes from the same sort of place

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group

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2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
appear taller. Too bad it doesn't work that way. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   MJ, surely some qigong and kung fu programs offer certificates of mastery for the various levels. How is that different? From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

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2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Great, salyavin! But did you ENJOY? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : MJ, surely

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance of this phrase, used by anyone in the TMO. He is more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
have been much happier ever since. Others I know still like it, go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Do your still TMSP practicing friends have tea with you, or do they avoid you so as to not catch the OTP disease? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

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2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
18, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Great, Salyavin! But did you ENJOY? At first I liked the TMSP but after a while it was more of a drag than a pleasure. Like TM I think most

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2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]   On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] Most Absurd Rumor   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Even after all I have seen and heard some of the TM junkie mentality is still hard to believe. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 3:59 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. And, don't forget the ColdBluIce, the discredited bhakti yoga impostor. According to these two rumor-mongers, SBS died because the Jyotirmath Ashram cook, in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
./ *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:00 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor Well this is one I haven't heard before

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   Share claims some orgs are giving out certificates in enlightenment so they must guarantee

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
salyavin, I think few folks could match you for sense of humor. Yours is pretty darn developed. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
I'd forgotten all that, the plot thickens! Is the spiritual world this crazy for people in other groups? On 11/18/2014 7:09 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: */It can get much worse. Any time you have a group of people so lacking in real self-esteem that they gain pretty much ALL of their sense of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
that I value more. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   From: Bhairitu noozg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
to world peace. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   First of all, I'm familiar

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor   And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over. Till it became obvious that no one was getting enlightened even with the 10,000

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 7:12 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Actually, Barry, you've discounted Maharishi's progress on the spiritual path as someone who had achieved nothing. At the same time you've discussed your experiences practicing his technique, which happen to coincide with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
, 2014 7:38 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates. This is the age in which we live, a path for every kind of seeker

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] On 11/18/2014 09:17 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor And yet from the very beginning of the Movement till about the 1980's enlightenment was what we were all chasing and what Marshy emphasized over and over. Till

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 10:47 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Barry is trolling. I have never heard anyone in the TM Org, including my teacher, say that TM was the fastest way to enlightenment. It is not on any tapes, or in any lectures, or books. I challenge Barry to find even one recorded instance

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 04:26 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */It's not so much a rumor, more of a sales pitch or claim, but I've always gotten a chuckle from TM is the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, coming from an organization that in over 50 years has been

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't know - When I was around the teachers, it was for a specific purpose - I was focused on the course, or the TMSP, or whatever it was. My path started to diverge from the orthodoxy of the seven states, a year or so after learning the TMSP, (1981-ish), being plunged into so many

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
What organization does? */Just to make a point about the kinds of bullshit humans are willing to accept, think about the TM sales pitch for enlightenment, compared to almost anything else being sold on this planet:/* */ /* */-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*/-- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook, line, and sinker. /* /* */ On 11/18/2014 11:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Inspired. Here's a genuine conversation I had with a TM teacher at the academy: When you are enlightened you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled Shame it didn't work out that way for MMY ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : -- You think WE'RE insane? Talk to the millions of people who bought this exact sales pitch hook,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled Shame it didn't work out that way for MMY

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
*/ /* */-- So, that's your introductory lecture. Just sign here, pay us your $75, and we promise you that you will be fully enlightened in five years. /* But now I have to ask: did you claim this in *your* intro lectures? Are you guilty as charged? I don't recall claiming this in mine.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That is my recollection as well, as one who did give many lectures and teach courses. It just wasn't a talking point. Of course was going to produce dozens of teachers who claimed something, I forget what, a few days ago. I requested he produce one, which of course he couldn't.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/18/2014 5:59 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You won't desire money or sex because your desires are already fulfilled Shame it didn't work out that way for MMY /Apparently MMY got everything he wanted or needed./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor turq, if you are genuinely interested in such a path, the Oneness group headed by Bhagavan and Amma claim lots of enlightened followers, even give them certificates

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor

2014-11-18 Thread Duveyoung
Somebody's gotta be the drummer on this ship of 'oars.

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2014-11-18 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Same conclusion as everyone else's - Edg nailed it to the wall. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : That is my recollection as well, as one who did give many lectures and teach courses. It just wasn't a talking point. Of course was going to produce dozens of

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