Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear 0.9.8, Mac OS X build

2005-01-21 Thread Andrew Midosn
--- Andrew Midosn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that no-one is assuming that this could have been an innocent mistake. I accept that it is unlikely, but it wouldn't be the first time that a file has been included in a software release in error. I would agree that it is entirely

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear 0.9.8, Mac OS X build

2005-01-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:35:37 -0600, Curtis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If people aren't satisfied with the ultimate resolution, then you are by all means free to create an alternative mac package to which I will freely link from the downloads page. ..I get the impression this is as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear 0.9.8, Mac OS X build

2005-01-20 Thread Dave Martin
On Thursday 20 Jan 2005 17:35, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Christian Brunschen -- Thursday 20 January 2005 17:43: Is it really a good idea to have essentially religious propaganda shipped in the semi-official build of FlightGear for Mac OS X? No! I'm utterly disgusted by this abuse! It's an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear 0.9.8, Mac OS X build

2005-01-20 Thread David Megginson
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:35:53 +0100, Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The responsible person should be asked to *immediately* remove the offending religious content. 2. If he refuses (which the GPL lets him), he should not be given any further support. He should be banned

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear 0.9.8, Mac OS X build

2005-01-20 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jim Wilson wrote: David Megginson said: On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:35:53 +0100, Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The responsible person should be asked to *immediately* remove the offending religious content. 2. If he refuses (which the GPL lets him), he should not be given any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear 0.9.8, Mac OS X build

2005-01-20 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: No, it doesn't. But as long as there are no links to this package from the official FlightGear page, there isn't much we can do against this abuse. *If* FlightGear officially links to this package, then I will stop contributing to it. Hmm, you might want to take a nights

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-16 Thread Adam Dershowitz
11:23:21 + (UTC) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Adam Dershowitz wrote: I took a whack at drafting up a new set of Mac build instructions for the users guide. I would appreciate it if someone else could try to run through this step

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-16 Thread Arthur Wiebe
: FlightGear on Mac OS X Adam Dershowitz wrote: I took a whack at drafting up a new set of Mac build instructions for the users guide. I would appreciate it if someone else could try to run through this step by step just to confirm that I did not miss anything (another set

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-16 Thread Arthur Wiebe
, 15 Nov 2004 11:23:21 + (UTC) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Adam Dershowitz wrote: I took a whack at drafting up a new set of Mac build instructions for the users guide. I would appreciate it if someone else could try to run

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-15 Thread James Turner
On 14 Nov 2004, at 13:42, Arthur Wiebe wrote: What needs to be done is something like this if (defined(macintosh) { #include OpenGL/gl.h } else { #include GL/gl.h } Can you tell that I don't program in C? :) Two things - please use __APPLE__ to detect OS-X, 'macintosh' is more for Classic

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-14 Thread ima . sudonim
Arthur, I have built FlightGear on Mac OS X. After a LOT of trial and error building SimGear and FlightGear without the X11 SDK. Great! It seems all that needed to be done was change GL/gl.h and GL/glu.h in all the source files which contained those includes to OpenGL/*. I was really concerned

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-14 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Patches for FlightGear and SImgear (CVS) available http://awiebe.blogdns.net/download/patches/flightgear.patch http://awiebe.blogdns.net/download/patches/simgear.patch These patches were created using cvs diff -u The patches should be applied before you build and will only work on Mac OS X

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-13 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Another way to do it which is what I did was use the following command: locate plibfnt It returned: /fgfs/lib/libplibfnt.a /Users/myuser/FlightGear/plib/src/fnt/libplibfnt.a So no, unless the source file count I do not have another PLIB installation. Even though I really have to work on my own

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-13 Thread Boris Koenig
Arthur Wiebe wrote: Another way to do it which is what I did was use the following command: locate plibfnt It returned: /fgfs/lib/libplibfnt.a /Users/myuser/FlightGear/plib/src/fnt/libplibfnt.a (s)locate doesn't really browse your file system, as 'find' would do - rather, (s)locate runs a query

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-13 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Yes I found out quickly that locate does not stay up to date. But it did find everything. I think the datebase rebuilds daily or something. But I decided to try to build simgear again (from CVS) and it seems in a file called matlib.cxx in material it contains the following line: #include GL/gl.h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-13 Thread Arthur Wiebe
: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think you might be able to modify the mac os x docs for 0.9.6 especially with regard to updating make tools for a successful source build? I'd welcome any sort of submission for documentation updates. This would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-13 Thread Arthur Wiebe
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-12 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I just started over again. Building PLIB, SimGear, and FlightGear all from CVS. PLIB and SimGear worked of course but flightgear halts when building the GUI: Making all in GUI if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/fgfs/include -I/usr/X11R6/include

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Arthur, The missing symbol should be in the -lplibfnt library. Do you perhaps have an older version of plib (or parts of it) built with a different compiler still floating around on your system? By default plib tries to install itself in /usr/lib and /usr/include, so I would check there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-12 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I actually had two different PLIB installations floating around. But only one in the prefix. But even after removing the other two I still get this error. On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:19:13 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arthur, The missing symbol should be in the -lplibfnt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-12 Thread Adam Dershowitz
, such as into the Applications folder. From: Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: home Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: list.flightgear-devel Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:00:48 + (UTC) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-12 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Arthur Wiebe wrote: I actually had two different PLIB installations floating around. But only one in the prefix. But even after removing the other two I still get this error. Compilers will typically search a default path that usually/often includes /usr/include, /usr/lib, /usr/local/include,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-12 Thread ima . sudonim
Arthur, You've come so far, please don't give up now! This is the last day I'm going to work on this. If I can't get it to work today I will wait until Mac OS X 10.4 is released. (Tiger) Curt, Your command to find files works fine on Mac OS X.3.6, here's the result on my system: sudo find /

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
, Arthur wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:49:32 -0500 From: Arthur Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Since I was getting nowhere trying to build FG 0.9.6 I checked it out from CVS instead. After

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Adam Dershowitz
] Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:22:52 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Arthur, Makefile.in isn't in CVS. It is generated by automake. GNU Automake - http://www.gnu.org/software/automake Freeware - Generates makefile.in files from makefile.am

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 12:22:52 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Arthur, Makefile.in isn't in CVS. It is generated by automake. GNU Automake - http://www.gnu.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Adam Dershowitz
From: Arthur Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:41:58 -0500 To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X After setting two environment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Adam Dershowitz wrote: From: Arthur Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:41:58 -0500 To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X After setting two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Boris Koenig
Just a quick note as I am catching up on all this: Arthur Wiebe wrote: Now FlightGear itself is another story. I had to upgrade automake in order to run the autogen.sh script successfully. While I wouldn't consider this to be a very common problem, it would probably not be a bad idea to add a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Adam Dershowitz
From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:09:21 -0600 To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Adam Dershowitz wrote

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I wouldn't mind at all helping with updating the docs. I have some experience with my own projects. Keeping the documentation up to date is harder than writing code :) By the way I have the same problem trying to build FlightGear from CVS as the 0.9.6 release. PLIB, simgear, and almost flightgear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Adam Dershowitz
] Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:25:14 -0800 To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FlightGear developers

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Adam Dershowitz wrote: I finally got it all to build and work! Curt, you were correct, despite what I said below. Seems that when I rebuilt everything, it was not actually everything. I somehow missed a few things. I think that the specific problem was that clouds3d is one directory deeper than

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-11 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Great to hear you got it! But I'm still having problems and I have been using make clean all the time. Don't think that'll help for my situation. On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:11:53 -0600, Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Dershowitz wrote: I finally got it all to build and work!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Arthur Wiebe wrote: Hello. I think I have plib built and installed. Using GCC 3.3 and PLIB straight from CVS 2004-11-08. Looking in /usr/include/plib and /usr/lib/ it looks like plib is installed. The only problem I now have is when trying to configure simgear from CVS (same date) I get: checking

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-10 Thread Giles Robertson
cents. Giles Robertson -Original Message- From: Curtis L. Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2004 18:59 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Arthur Wiebe wrote: Hello. I think I have plib built and installed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-10 Thread Arthur Wiebe
for every compile; PLIB, SimGear, FGFS. My 2 cents. Giles Robertson -Original Message- From: Curtis L. Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 November 2004 18:59 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Arthur Wiebe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-10 Thread Arthur Wiebe
To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Arthur Wiebe wrote: Hello. I think I have plib built and installed. Using GCC 3.3 and PLIB straight from CVS 2004-11-08. Looking in /usr/include/plib and /usr/lib/ it looks like plib

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-10 Thread Arthur Wiebe
: 10 November 2004 18:59 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X Arthur Wiebe wrote: Hello. I think I have plib built and installed. Using GCC 3.3 and PLIB straight from CVS 2004-11-08. Looking in /usr/include/plib

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-10 Thread ima . sudonim
, Arthur wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:49:32 -0500 From: Arthur Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Well... I got

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X

2004-11-10 Thread Arthur Wiebe
--prefix On Nov 10, 2004, at 2:49 PM, Arthur wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:49:32 -0500 From: Arthur Wiebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear on Mac OS X To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED