Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-05 Thread J.Pietschmann
Glen Mazza wrote: Congratulations, Joerg Thanks! -we didn't know! I tend to keep private matters within my family. No offense meant. J.Pietschmann

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-04 Thread Glen Mazza
--- "J.Pietschmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, child care (my son is 6 > month now), a new > Congratulations, Joerg--we didn't know! Glen

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-04 Thread Victor Mote
Simon Pepping wrote: > I am not sure why you consider this an insult to you. Joerg Pietschmann wrote: > I'm not annoyed about the matter, nor did I intend to insult anyone. The original question was "do you still have x? and do you have any interest in contributing it? I did not find it at y",

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-04 Thread J.Pietschmann
Simon Pepping wrote: I am not sure why you consider this an insult to you. I can imagine that Jörg is a bit annoyed about the matter because at the time of the quoted email I did not react very enthousiastically. I'm not annoyed about the matter, nor did I intend to insult anyone. The ASF switched

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-04 Thread Simon Pepping
On Sat, Apr 02, 2005 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Victor Mote wrote: > OK. Thanks. I think we'll leave the existing patterns intact until we learn > of problems, but start building new ones that have a more clear heritage. > The only way I see to do this right is to start word lists, let users > contribute

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-04 Thread Simon Pepping
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:12:05PM -0700, Victor Mote wrote: > Hi all: > > I think FOray wants to take a different approach to the hyphenation pattern > licensing problem. Specifically, I think we still need such patterns under > an Apache-style license, and would like for FOray (or someone else)

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-04 Thread Simon Pepping
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:17:17AM -0600, Victor Mote wrote: > J.Pietschmann wrote: > > > Victor Mote wrote: > > > OK. Thanks. I think we'll leave the existing patterns intact until we > > > learn > > > of problems, but start building new ones that have a more clear heritage. > > > The only way I

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-04 Thread Victor Mote
J.Pietschmann wrote: > Victor Mote wrote: > > hyphenation patterns ourselves. Joerg, do you still have the Java > > patgen port mentioned here? > > Yes, it is still available somewhere. Putting this together with the unanswered question from my original post, I suppose this is intended to be a

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-02 Thread J.Pietschmann
Victor Mote wrote: hyphenation patterns ourselves. Joerg, do you still have the Java patgen port mentioned here? Yes, it is still available somewhere. I'm also considering writing a small web application which would help producing lists of hyphenated words in a collaborative style. J.Pietschmann

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-02 Thread Victor Mote
Jeremias Maerki wrote: > If you look at my initial post for the vote you'll see my > main reasons for getting this started. If we want to be clean I had. > about following ASF policy then we would have had to invest > more time sorting out the problems. I think the patterns that > remained

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-02 Thread Jeremias Maerki
If you look at my initial post for the vote you'll see my main reasons for getting this started. If we want to be clean about following ASF policy then we would have had to invest more time sorting out the problems. I think the patterns that remained until the end were not tainted as such. They are

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-02 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Simon, thank you very much for looking into this and for writing down what you found out. That will be helpful to someone who wants to give it another shot again later. Thanks also to Andreas and Clay. On 01.04.2005 21:35:47 Simon Pepping wrote: > This has been done now. Andreas took care of the

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-01 Thread Victor Mote
Hi all: I didn't want to interfere with your vote, but it looks like the dust has settled a bit. I think FOray wants to take a different approach to the hyphenation pattern licensing problem. Specifically, I think we still need such patterns under an Apache-style license, and would like for FOray

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-04-01 Thread Simon Pepping
This has been done now. Andreas took care of the FOP side. I have uploaded compiled patterns in jar files for FOP 0.20.5 and for FOP HEAD. Clay has contributed a new design for the web pages. Check it out: http://offo.sourceforge.net. Regards, Simon On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:05:40AM +0100, Jerem

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-19 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When the jar is built by ant it should end up as > '${FOP_HOME}/build/fop-hyph.jar'. When it is downloaded from > elsewhere, '${FOP_HOME}/lib/fop-hyph.jar' would be a good place. All > jars in lib are added to the clas

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-18 Thread Simon Pepping
On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 02:19:46PM +0100, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > > > > > > > > Have the scripts --.bat and .sh-- append > > '${FOP_HOME}/build/fop-hyph.jar' to > > > the loc

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-18 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Bowditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > > > > Have the scripts --.bat and .sh-- append > '${FOP_HOME}/build/fop-hyph.jar' to > > the local CLASSPATH. I'm not too sure about the location here: > is 'build' > > OK, or should we

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-18 Thread IndianAtTech
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:50:31 +, Chris Bowditch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > > > > Have the scripts --.bat and .sh-- append '${FOP_HOME}/build/fop-hyph.jar' to > > the local CLASSPATH. I'm not too sure about the location here: is 'build' > > OK, or should we dum

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-18 Thread Chris Bowditch
Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: Have the scripts --.bat and .sh-- append '${FOP_HOME}/build/fop-hyph.jar' to the local CLASSPATH. I'm not too sure about the location here: is 'build' OK, or should we dump it in the 'lib' folder, or just the 'hyph' folder? I think this should be the "hyph" folder. ll fi

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-18 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > As for the build targets: so we don't remove these, but it > seems we definitely could/should tweak these to accomodate > the creation of the JAR that will be offered through OFFO, What I did so far (locally):

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-17 Thread Simon Pepping
On Thu, Mar 17, 2005 at 04:02:00PM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > On 17.03.2005 15:02:02 Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > > > or b) making the XML available via the userconfig. > > > > > > You mean the uncompiled hyphenation XMLs? Not sure here. > > > > Yes, I wasn't sure of it myself... Ult

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-17 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 17.03.2005 15:02:02 Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On 17.03.2005 11:00:15 Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > > > > - Installing: > > > should basically come down to > > > a) making sure the JAR contai

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 17.03.2005 11:00:15 Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > - Installing: > > should basically come down to > > a) making sure the JAR containing the hyphenation patterns > >is accessible to FOP, > > I

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-17 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 17.03.2005 11:00:15 Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ... The work to be done is: > > > adapt the page hyphenation.html t

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-17 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Andreas L. Delmelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > > From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ... The work to be done is: > > adapt the page hyphenation.html to the new situation, > > I'll have a closer look at FOP's hyphena

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-16 Thread Simon Pepping
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:34:05PM +0100, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Simon, > > > and creating a jar file with all hyphenation patterns > > compiled for fop-0.20.5. > > OK. As a slight detail, the hyphenation bu

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-16 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Simon Pepping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Simon, > ... The work to be done is: > adapt the page hyphenation.html to the new situation, I guess an update is required for both hyphenation pages --FOP and OFFO. I'll have a closer look at FOP's hyphenation page lat

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-16 Thread Chris Bowditch
The Web Maestro wrote: On Mar 14, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: I'd like to propose moving all of the remaining hyphenation patterns to http://offo.sourceforge.net. Various reasons: +1 +1 from me too. Chris

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-15 Thread Simon Pepping
Andreas, On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:29:02AM +0100, Andreas L. Delmelle wrote: > (and I *do* mean 'one', as in 'if there is anything specific I can do to > alleviate Simon's workload, just give me a yell...' --got some spare time > coming up that I'd be happy to put to good use) I would be pleased

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-15 Thread Glen Mazza
+1 (leider mit der Bedeutung von +0 ;) Glen --- "Andreas L. Delmelle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jeremias Maerki > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I'd like to propose moving all of the remaining > hyphenation patterns to > > http://offo.sourceforge.net.

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-15 Thread The Web Maestro
On Mar 14, 2005, at 2:05 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote: I'd like to propose moving all of the remaining hyphenation patterns to http://offo.sourceforge.net. Various reasons: +1 Web Maestro Clay -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - My religion is simple. My religion is kindness

RE: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-15 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
> -Original Message- > From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'd like to propose moving all of the remaining hyphenation patterns to > http://offo.sourceforge.net. +1 (and I *do* mean 'one', as in 'if there is anything specific I can do to alleviate Simon's workload, just gi

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-14 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 14.03.2005 20:43:15 Simon Pepping wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:05:40AM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > I'd like to propose moving all of the remaining hyphenation patterns to > > http://offo.sourceforge.net. Various reasons: > > - One-stop shop for all FOP hyphenation patterns > > - Mo

Re: [VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-14 Thread Simon Pepping
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:05:40AM +0100, Jeremias Maerki wrote: > I'd like to propose moving all of the remaining hyphenation patterns to > http://offo.sourceforge.net. Various reasons: > - One-stop shop for all FOP hyphenation patterns > - Most patterns are completely unproblematic from a license

[VOTE] Move all hyphenation patterns to offo.sourceforge.net

2005-03-14 Thread Jeremias Maerki
I'd like to propose moving all of the remaining hyphenation patterns to http://offo.sourceforge.net. Various reasons: - One-stop shop for all FOP hyphenation patterns - Most patterns are completely unproblematic from a license perspective but not from a Apache license policy perspective. - There ar