of circumstances have led to the use of a truly
unfortunate piece of software as a key part of the user experience.
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Hi,
I don’t have it in a production environment, but FeameMaker 12 works fine
for me in 64-bit Windows 8.1 in the latest version of Parallels on a
MacBook Pro using Mavericks.
Sean
On Jul 13, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Steve Rickaby
Hi!
I work for a small startup that delivers documentation to software developers.
I’m investigating how to continue our strategy of publishing to HTML so that we
can “merge” our reference documentation (such as Javadoc) with our developer
guides, samples, and so forth.
Our legacy is
I think that you chose well by having a digital version and a print version.
That immediately solves one of the major problems.
I use the rubric save big and shrink down, that is, make relatively big
images and then scale them down. Scaling algorithms do reasonably well at
throwing away
I think that you chose well by having a digital version and a print version.
That immediately solves one of the major problems.
I use the rubric "save big and shrink down", that is, make relatively big
images and then scale them down. Scaling algorithms do reasonably well at
throwing away
, etc.
I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?
Joe Malin
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I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?
Joe Malin
Wiki and wiki are the accepted spelling. I only mention this so you can
maintain your cred with your SMEs.
I've been using a Wiki based on TWiki software for the past two years. I see
no problem in using one to collaborate, as long as you ensure it has these
features:
- Notification:
To all Framers everywhere:
When you post technical problems like this, you'll get the fastest, most
accurate, and most useful response when you add in these points of
information:
- Which type and version of OS you're on (ie Windows XP Pro, SP 2)
- Your hardware details (Computer maker and
"Wiki" and "wiki" are the accepted spelling. I only mention this so you can
maintain your cred with your SMEs.
I've been using a Wiki based on TWiki software for the past two years. I see
no problem in using one to collaborate, as long as you ensure it has these
features:
- Notification:
To all Framers everywhere:
When you post technical problems like this, you'll get the fastest, most
accurate, and most useful response when you add in these points of
information:
- Which type and version of OS you're on (ie Windows XP Pro, SP 2)
- Your hardware details (Computer maker and
Hi!
Looking for a bylaws template for FM 8. Is someone willing to share for
free?
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Looking for a bylaws template for FM 8. Is someone willing to share for
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A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD
displays. I see the following configurations in use:
* Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
bottom up) but sometimes also straight
I use an IBM/Lenovo T43P in a docking station. The docking station has a
VGA port and a DVI port. This particular laptop has the ATI Mobility
FireGL V3200. Most video cards these days support dual monitors.
Peter Courlis wrote:
When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
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use?
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Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A slight hijack: for people
who are using dual monitors, what
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
LCD
displays. I see the following configurations in use:
* Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top
A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD
displays. I see the following configurations in use:
* Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
bottom up) but sometimes also
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> displays. I see the following configurations in use:
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tors, what video card do you use?
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>> Joe Malin wrote: A slight hijack: for people
>> who are using dual monitors, what
>> configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
>> LCD
>> displays. I see the following con
What he's saying is that FM files are binary, which means they're not
composed entirely of printable characters (that's a simplified
explanation). You can't do the normal type of ClearCase operation on
them. That probably freaks him out. It shouldn't; I have used ClearCase
and other SCM products
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What he's saying is that FM files are "binary", which means they're not
composed entirely of printable characters (that's a simplified
explanation). You can't do the "normal" type of ClearCase operation on
them. That probably freaks him out. It shouldn't; I have used ClearCase
and other SCM
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Hi!
I have used FrameMaker and ClearCase before. I don't particularly see a
need to link together all the files in a book within ClearCase, unless
you're going directly from ClearCase to FM or invoking ClearCase from FM
itself. Of course, you have to treat FM files as binary; you can't
compare
This a bit tricky. I haven't done it before, but I found instructions
for it in the Adobe FrameMaker help. The topic title is
Including the total page count of a book in a header or footer
The Page Count ($lastpagenum) variable ordinarily resets on a
file-by-file basis, but you can make it do
to the current paragraph, making the display unreliable.
What Shlomo chose to do was hide the unreliable display while
still allowing you to pull down the list and select a different tag
to apply.
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> applied to the current paragraph, making the display unreliable.
> What Shlomo chose to do was hide the unreliable display while
> still allowing you to pull down the list and select a different tag
> to apply.
>
>
>> From: Joe Malin
>> Reply-To: jmalin at jmalin.com
Hi!
I have used FrameMaker and ClearCase before. I don't particularly see a
need to link together all the files in a book within ClearCase, unless
you're going directly from ClearCase to FM or invoking ClearCase from FM
itself. Of course, you have to treat FM files as binary; you can't
compare
Two excellent questions.
The first one I have run into before; I just finished working as a lone
writer who had to do exactly what you are doing.
FM does not have an "external" formats doc. What you can do, though, is
apply the formats in a document to all the files in a book. To do this,
you
This a bit tricky. I haven't done it before, but I found instructions
for it in the Adobe FrameMaker help. The topic title is
"Including the total page count of a book in a header or footer"
The Page Count (<$lastpagenum>) variable ordinarily resets on a
file-by-file basis, but you can make it
Hi!
Interesting question regarding Shlomo's excellent ToolbarPlus Express
tool. The tool originally had a "bug" where the Paragraph Tag dropdown
box was nearly invisible. I know there's a fix for this, but I can't
remember what it is. Can anyone help?
Joe
Hey!
Uh, I've been laid off, again. Bummer! On the other hand, I had already
been thinking it was time for me to move on. The company has changed
directions, and just doesn't need a tech writer, especially now that
I've finished the last round of documentation!
If you're in the SF Bay Area and
Hey!
Uh, I've been laid off, again. Bummer! On the other hand, I had already
been thinking it was time for me to move on. The company has changed
directions, and just doesn't need a tech writer, especially now that
I've finished the last round of documentation!
If you're in the SF Bay Area and
.
Though I want to have single-source and people here like the idea, I
don't think anyone here needs it urgently enough to spend money on it,
yet.
Joe
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Though I want to have single-source and people here like the idea, I
don't think anyone here needs it urgently enough to spend money on it,
yet.
Joe
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gone the same route, would
be much appreciated.
As you probably know, I have many years experience in software
development, so developing my own EDD is not an issue.
Joe
TuVox, Inc.
19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715
Joe Malin
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gone the same route, would
be much appreciated.
As you probably know, I have many years experience in software
development, so developing my own EDD is not an issue.
Joe
TuVox, Inc.
19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715
Joe Malin
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.
I have tried using the conversion tool in FM itself, but the
documentation for it is, shall we say, a bit sparse...
Joe
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The views
Hi!
by a number, followed by the resource's definition.
Since numbers would be hard to keep track of, you can use a C-style
header file to define symbols for each number.
Joe
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The views expressed in this document are those
by a number, followed by the resource's definition.
Since numbers would be hard to keep track of, you can use a C-style
header file to define symbols for each number.
Joe
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The views expressed in this document are those
there to comment. I'm sure that IBM itself is *not* using Rational
SoDA for this, at least around here (Silicon Valley). That ought to be
an indication.
Can your colleague join the list and elaborate what's going on? Maybe
she's misinterpreted what they're asking her to do?
Joe Malin
Technical
Rickaby
Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com; Joe Malin
Subject: Re: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool
My bad - as a technical writer, I should have been much more clear - she
is being told that Framemaker is going bye-bye at her organization
because the powers that be insist Rational Soda will do
there to comment. I'm sure that IBM itself is *not* using Rational
SoDA for this, at least around here (Silicon Valley). That ought to be
an indication.
Can your colleague join the list and elaborate what's going on? Maybe
she's misinterpreted what they're asking her to do?
Joe Malin
Technical
, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Steve Rickaby
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com; Joe Malin
Subject: Re: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool
My bad - as a technical writer, I should have been much more clear - she
is being told that Framemaker is going bye-bye at her organization
because the powers that be insist
! In fairness to both Adobe and FM, it is confusing because it is not
what we expect.
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rting, I sure
did! In fairness to both Adobe and FM, it is confusing because it is not
what we expect.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
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necessarily reflect those
generate dynamic controls as the
program is running, by issuing Windows API calls. If you modify the
static controls or the dialog box containing them, you may end up
putting a static control at the same place a dynamic control is supposed
to appear.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
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Developers generate dynamic controls as the
program is running, by issuing Windows API calls. If you modify the
static controls or the dialog box containing them, you may end up
putting a static control at the same place a dynamic control is supposed
to appear.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(40
that excludes some chapters if it goes out to
customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to
re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal
version. Does anyone have a better way?
Joe
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my variables.
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Yes, in fact I do this all the time with Tip/Note/Warning text that I
put in a table.
If you want, I can send you an unstructured FM 7.1 file with the
paragraph, character, and table formats I use.
Joe
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I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering
properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the
numbering properties at the book level.
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ave a book that excludes some chapters if it goes out to
customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to
re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal
version. Does anyone have a better way?
Joe
Joe Malin
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www
my variables.
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Yes, in fact I do this all the time with Tip/Note/Warning text that I
put in a table.
If you want, I can send you an unstructured FM 7.1 file with the
paragraph, character, and table formats I use.
Joe
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I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering
properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the
numbering properties at the book level.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
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Hi Ealasaid!
Have you tried deleting the TOC and re-generating it?
If you need additional help off-list, write me an e-mail directly.
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Hi Ealasaid!
Have you tried deleting the TOC and re-generating it?
If you need additional help off-list, write me an e-mail directly.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
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jmalin at tuvox.com
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, and therefore gave up on ResHacker.
If you just change fonts, you should be OK; just don't change the size
of anything.
I have no idea why FM engineers haven't changed the index marker dialog
or the font size. I think it has to be no more than a 10-minute job.
Joe
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either be groaning or snickering.
I have not had a situation in which I could use sparklines, but I think
they're a great idea.
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either be groaning or snickering.
I have not had a situation in which I could use sparklines, but I think
they're a great idea.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
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www.tuvox.com
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before.
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entry between columns using the shuttle
buttons.) Hold down the shift key, and then click the arrow key. This
will move *everything*. The best place to use this is in the Generate
Acrobat Data dialog box, to clear out the paragraph tags FM puts into
your PDF before you add what you wan
there from before.
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not
be what Linux or HP-UX people want to hear, but I think it's a useful
distinction.
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. This may not
be what Linux or HP-UX people want to hear, but I think it's a useful
distinction.
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Dunno, but I have been using the Adobe PDF driver + write to file +
distilling for nearly five years now without any problems on both
unstructured and structured FM versions 6.0 - 7.1. I haven't yet run
into a need for save as PDF.
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Dunno, but I have been using the Adobe PDF driver + write to file +
distilling for nearly five years now without any problems on both
unstructured and structured FM versions 6.0 - 7.1. I haven't yet run
into a need for "save as PDF".
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at
Right, I know about that. I'm not willing to go down the route towards
DITA until I understand more about structured FM and Docbook, though.
DocBook fits more closely with what I have.
Joe
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Is it a paragraph tag in the catalog, or just a starred one?
Paragraph Tools from Silicon Prairie handles various paragraph tag
management tools for a single document, but not for a whole book.
FrameScript could probably do this.
Joe
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I stand corrected. I will go look at the documentation (what a
concept!). I bought the dang tools and yet I don't know all their
features! I have to say that they are great tools, well worth the price.
Joe
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Right, I know about that. I'm not willing to go down the route towards
DITA until I understand more about structured FM and Docbook, though.
DocBook fits more closely with what I have.
Joe
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I stand corrected. I will go look at the documentation (what a
concept!). I bought the dang tools and yet I don't know all their
features! I have to say that they are great tools, well worth the price.
Joe
Joe Malin
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Well, once again I have neutrino-sized particles of bandwidth with which
to investigate structured Frame.
I have chosen to start with DocBook rather than DITA, just because I've
worked in structured Frame with a DTD that was based on full DocBook.
Question is, which version of DocBook should I
Well, once again I have neutrino-sized particles of bandwidth with which
to investigate structured Frame.
I have chosen to start with DocBook rather than DITA, just because I've
worked in structured Frame with a DTD that was based on full DocBook.
Question is, which version of DocBook should I
make with Tweak UI. Word 2003 seems to
stick to the Office 2003 standard instead.
If none of this makes any sense to you, then the bottom line is that you
can't do it.
Joe
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can make with Tweak UI. Word 2003 seems to
stick to the Office 2003 standard instead.
If none of this makes any sense to you, then the bottom line is that you
can't do it.
Joe
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* conjunction (and) connecting the
same two phrases!
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mmatically incorrect. You have have *both* a *subordinate*
conjunction (if) and a *coordinate* conjunction (and) connecting the
same two phrases!
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Yeah, but I haven't saved up enough yet to buy FrameScript. We'll see
how things go this week; I may be able to get my company to buy it.
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Yeah, but I haven't saved up enough yet to buy FrameScript. We'll see
how things go this week; I may be able to get my company to buy it.
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Some really good answers from others here. I agree with you, though,
that making a separate set of templates for A4 would be a major time
commitment. It would also lead to all sorts of management problems.
Trust me on this, I *know*.
Joe
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really need their *definitions*, just the words
themselves.
Joe
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need to search for Termblah/Term.
Very handy!
I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like sed) that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.
Joe
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Some really good answers from others here. I agree with you, though,
that making a separate set of templates for A4 would be a major time
commitment. It would also lead to all sorts of management problems.
Trust me on this, I *know*.
Joe
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin
really need their *definitions*, just the words
themselves.
Joe
TuVox, Inc.
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, you
just need to search for blah.
Very handy!
I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like "sed") that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.
Joe
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
hope this helps. If the OP has questions or clarifications he or she
can contact me directly.
Joe
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www.tuvox.com <http://www.tuvox.
No offense to Kate, and I hope someone takes this job; it sounds like a
good one, but...
if you take it, watch where you put your hand (with apologies to
"Fantastic Voyage")
Joe
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The views expressed in thi
CONFIDENTIAL).
I use Leximation's BookVars FM plug-in, with which I can set the
variables for all the files in a book from one text file.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
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www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do
text I want (in my
case, it's "CONFIDENTIAL").
I use Leximation's BookVars FM plug-in, with which I can set the
variables for all the files in a book from one text file.
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this
Good grief! Just send a message to Shlomo Perets and ask *his* advice!
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
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www.tuvox.com
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can elaborate if necessary.
Joe
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can elaborate if necessary.
Joe
Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
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