Re: web-safe fonts characters 2014

[Joe Malin]

Wait, isn't this an argument *for* using Helvetica? After all, seeing a
blank page would encourage people to stop using IE.

Just kidding, although I am proud to say that I haven't used IE in many,
many years and have no intention of changing that behavior. It's
unfortunate that a variety of circumstances have led to the use of a truly
unfortunate piece of software as a key part of the user experience.

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On 8/5/14, 11:58 AM, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote:

I can tell you one font that is NOT Web-safe: Helvetica. I recommend
that you keep it out of your Web documents. There is a Windows bug that
causes IE to display Web pages as blank when Helvetica is installed on
the computer and listed as the first font in a page's CSS. When I was
unfortunate enough to have problems displaying Web pages, it took me
quite a while to find the solution online. If you search Google for
Helvetica blank pages IE, you'll see all kinds of information on it.

Mike Wickham


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Re: FM 12 in Parallels using Win7

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+1

On 7/16/14, 2:38 PM, Sean techwordsm...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I don’t have it in a production environment, but FeameMaker 12 works fine
for me in 64-bit Windows 8.1 in the latest version of Parallels on a
MacBook Pro using Mavericks.

Sean

On Jul 13, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Steve Rickaby
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:

 I had a quick search but couldn't see that this issue has been
discussed recently.

 I'm in the process of upgrading to FM 12 using Win7 in Parallels on a
Mac Pro. My question is simple: which is best, 32-bit Win7 or 64-bit
Win7?

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FrameMaker to HTML

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

I work for a small startup that delivers documentation to software developers. 
I’m investigating how to continue our strategy of publishing to HTML so that we 
can “merge” our reference documentation (such as Javadoc) with our developer 
guides, samples, and so forth.

Our legacy is unstructured FrameMaker 12, which I’d prefer to continue for the 
moment. We use FrameMaker’s multi-publishing feature to output to Responsive 
HTML5, using the RoboHelp features that come with FM. However, this approach 
isn’t customizable, as far as I can tell. I’m sure to get pressure to make our 
docs conform to the rest of the company’s design philosophy.

How should I proceed? Full RoboHelp would probably give us the customization we 
need without a lot of work, but RoboHelp is very expensive. We could go to 
structured FM and convert XML to HTML5 using XSLT (I was a software engineer in 
a past life, so I don’t find this troubling), but it’s a lot of work. Going to 
a different content/publishing solution would take some ‘splaining, since we’ve 
already invested in FM 12. But, if it were cheap enough, we could consider it.

I should add that we use Git for CMS. This approach actually works pretty well, 
since our goal is to track versions and branches rather than save space or do 
line-by-line reviews. For reviews, we’re currently using Acrobat XI features 
based on tagged PDF from FM 12.

Thoughts? I would be grateful for any advice!

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Re: DPI Recommendation for Images

[Joe Malin]

I think that you chose well by having a digital version and a print version.
That immediately solves one of the major problems.

I use the rubric save big and shrink down, that is, make relatively big
images and then scale them down. Scaling algorithms do reasonably well at
throwing away information. Nothing does well at creating information from
nothing. The larger the original image, the more pixels you have for any
particular image point. The algorithm can always throw away extra pixels or
color levels.

Multiple scaling is also a no-no. Scale the image *once*. Scale the document
it goes into *once*. Scalings are multiplicative.

Alas, not enough formats out there support vector graphics. We're incredibly
fortunate that the world has adopted what are essentially vector fonts.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Alison Craig
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.comwrote:


 I have to admit to being curious about this discussion as image quality has
 never been an issue for me (if it matters: FM9, all patched on Windows 7).

 I use only EPS files or, if I need to insert arrows or other highlighted
 options on an image, I use a TIF or PNG inside a Visio file which I then
 save to PDF. All images are imported by reference. (I *very* seldom scale a
 PDF after importing it and if I do, I try to keep it within a few percentage
 points of 100%.)

 I create my final PDFs twice from the same book setup with different
 joboption files so I get a digital version for viewing and a press quality
 one for printing on a professional, 600 dpi, high-speed, colour laser
 (with/without links and lower/higher image downsample settings are the major
 differences).

 Both of these options result in good, onscreen image quality at reasonable
 zoom levels (if you're going to zoom to 600% or 1000%, you get what you
 get).

 I have to plead major ignorance in the field of images, so how did I luck
 into a reliable method which I devised after a little trial and error?

 Alison


 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets
 Sent: March 25, 2011 3:04 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: DPI Recommendation for Images

 Alan Litchfield wrote:

 ... There is no value that I see in trying to dictate to the reader what
 they will see at any specified zoom. The reader will decide what is
 `good enough' for their viewing pleasure.  ...


 Forcing a specific zoom (related to the DPI value at which the screen
 captures are placed in FM) is indeed not practical, especially since
 readers can easily switch between view settings of Fit Page, Fit Width etc.
 (that result in different zoom levels in different computers/screens).

 However, this variable zoom effectively guarantees that the rendering of
 screen captures will be suboptimal, with different levels of distortion
 (missing pixels and/or blurred display). This is not a problem when the PDF
 is primarily intended for print purposes, but many PDFs are primarily used
 on-screen (even when the intended use is print, e.g. to benefit from
 interactivity/search).

 No easy solutions, unfortunately. Displaying the screen capture without any
 distortion is possible through off-page display -- see different examples
 at http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF29.html .

 [ The same issue applies directly to the display of SWF screen movies
 (where FM8/9/10 only support in-document placement; distortion of movie
 display in the PDF is practically guaranteed), see comparison of playback
 modes at
 http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes.pdf
 or
 http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes-Native.pdf,
 Acrobat/Reader 9 or higher ]



 Shlomo Perets

 MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
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DPI Recommendation for Images

[Joe Malin]

I think that you chose well by having a digital version and a print version.
That immediately solves one of the major problems.

I use the rubric "save big and shrink down", that is, make relatively big
images and then scale them down. Scaling algorithms do reasonably well at
throwing away information. Nothing does well at creating information from
nothing. The larger the original image, the more pixels you have for any
particular image point. The algorithm can always throw away extra pixels or
color levels.

Multiple scaling is also a no-no. Scale the image *once*. Scale the document
it goes into *once*. Scalings are multiplicative.

Alas, not enough formats out there support vector graphics. We're incredibly
fortunate that the world has adopted what are essentially vector fonts.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Alison Craig
wrote:

>
> I have to admit to being curious about this discussion as image quality has
> never been an issue for me (if it matters: FM9, all patched on Windows 7).
>
> I use only EPS files or, if I need to insert arrows or other highlighted
> options on an image, I use a TIF or PNG inside a Visio file which I then
> save to PDF. All images are imported by reference. (I *very* seldom scale a
> PDF after importing it and if I do, I try to keep it within a few percentage
> points of 100%.)
>
> I create my final PDFs twice from the same book setup with different
> joboption files so I get a digital version for viewing and a press quality
> one for printing on a professional, 600 dpi, high-speed, colour laser
> (with/without links and lower/higher image downsample settings are the major
> differences).
>
> Both of these options result in good, onscreen image quality at reasonable
> zoom levels (if you're going to zoom to 600% or 1000%, you get what you
> get).
>
> I have to plead major ignorance in the field of images, so how did I luck
> into a reliable method which I devised after a little trial and error?
>
> Alison
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets
> Sent: March 25, 2011 3:04 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: DPI Recommendation for Images
>
> Alan Litchfield wrote:
>
> >... There is no value that I see in trying to dictate to the reader what
> >they will see at any specified zoom. The reader will decide what is
> >`good enough' for their viewing pleasure.  ...
>
>
> Forcing a specific zoom (related to the DPI value at which the screen
> captures are placed in FM) is indeed not practical, especially since
> readers can easily switch between view settings of Fit Page, Fit Width etc.
> (that result in different zoom levels in different computers/screens).
>
> However, this variable zoom effectively guarantees that the rendering of
> screen captures will be suboptimal, with different levels of distortion
> (missing pixels and/or blurred display). This is not a problem when the PDF
> is primarily intended for print purposes, but many PDFs are primarily used
> on-screen (even when the intended use is print, e.g. to benefit from
> interactivity/search).
>
> No easy solutions, unfortunately. Displaying the screen capture without any
> distortion is possible through "off-page" display -- see different examples
> at http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF29.html .
>
> [ The same issue applies directly to the display of SWF screen movies
> (where FM8/9/10 only support in-document placement; distortion of movie
> display in the PDF is practically guaranteed), see comparison of playback
> modes at
> http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes.pdf
> or
> http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultimediaAsst/PlaybackModes-Native.pdf,
> Acrobat/Reader 9 or higher ]
>
>
>
> Shlomo Perets
>
> MicroType, http://www.microtype.com
> FrameMaker/TCS training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants
>
>
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Utilities for FM 8

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.

I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?

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Utilities for FM 8

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

After a 3-year hiatus I am trying to work with FM 8 (unstructured) again for
a non-work project. Having designed a lot of my own templates and documents,
I know a *lot* about what's built in to FM 8, but I've forgotten all the
utilities I once used such as Character Tools, Paragraph Tools, etc.

I'm looking for tools that will automatically copy formats, layouts, master
pages, reference pages, etc. from an existing document to a new one. Is
there a site somewhere that has a list of sources?

Joe Malin

Re: Using wickies

[Joe Malin]

Wiki and wiki are the accepted spelling. I only mention this so you can
maintain your cred with your SMEs.

I've been using a Wiki based on TWiki software for the past two years. I see
no problem in using one to collaborate, as long as you ensure it has these
features:

   - Notification: unfortunately, our wiki was not set up correctly. Nearly
   all its documents were put into one site or web, and the software can
   only send out notifications at the web level. Since we now have more than
   10K documents at the same level, notifications are useless. I suggest that
   you look for software that can notify at the page level, or set up some
   effective system that can notify all authors when a page changes.
   - Change tracking: our wiki does lock a page while someone is editing
   it, preventing simultaneous edits. Still, you will want to know what changes
   were applied when you go in to edit. Our wiki also tracks this, and can even
   back out changes.
   - Completeness: Wikis promote the idea that a document is never finished.
   Instead of abhorring this idea, you should embrace it! Within reason, allow
   continual updates to the content. In return, you get the most up-to-date and
   accurate information. You may want to set a freeze date, and then
   highlight material that changes after that date. Don't lock down your wiki;
   you'll be throwing away one of its major advantages.
   - Responsibility: When you allow multiple people, including customers,
   SMEs, and others to edit, you have to let go somewhat. You should volunteer
   to set up templates and style guidelines. Let go of the idea that you
   control everything. Provide editorial control as a *feature* of your
   involvement. In return, you'll get much more cooperation, and overall a
   better source of information.
   - Findability: If you're going from books to online, remember that you'll
   lose much of the functionality of a TOC, and you won't really have an index.
   Make sure your wiki software has adequate search capabilities.
   - Kruft: Unless you take away the right to create pages from everyone
   except writers, your wiki will accrete kruft (the techie word for
   unsightly and useless junk). Be ready for this. I leave it to you to choose
   *how*. In my organization, we simply accept it as a price for freedom of
   speech. Other wikis, like Wikipedia, maintain a somewhat tighter editorial
   control; they allow new pages but they scrutinize them closely.

These are just some of the considerations. Wikis are a great tool, but you
have to change your mindset to get the best use of them.



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 wrote:

 Our Honeywell doc group is currently using Frame 7.1, but we're considering
 using a wicki as a doc review center.  Have any of you used a wicki as a
 joint-authorship medium--that is, have reviewers and/or customers actually
 collaborate on the same wicki file that eventually becomes the finished
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Re: FrameMaker 8 behavior

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To all Framers everywhere:

When you post technical problems like this, you'll get the fastest, most
accurate, and most useful response when you add in these points of
information:

   - Which type and version of OS you're on (ie Windows XP Pro, SP 2)
   - Your hardware details (Computer maker and model, amount of RAM, type of
   video card, type of monitor)
   - Your network details including connection type and provider (ie DSL
   from SBC)
   - Version of software you're using (which Thomas has dutifully provided!)
   - *Detailed* steps you use to duplicate the problem.
   - How long the problem has been occurring. Here, Thomas does not say if
   this has always happened or just started.
   - Does it occur with other software?

In the modern world, it also helps to note what type of monitor you're
using, and if you're using any fancy hardware such as a KVM switch (a
hardware device that lets you share a keyboard, video display, and mouse
between two or more computers).

To Thomas:

In this case, I am curious to know if you are using a KVM switch,
particularly one that is connecting two computers that use DVI. I have seen
a similar phenomenon in my home setup, which I attribute to my inexpensive
and therefore somewhat flaky KVM switch. I am supporting two Windows XP Pro
computers, one a homebuilt with a powerful video card using full DVI, and
the other my work Lenovo laptop (through a docking station) also using DVI.

If you are using a KVM switch, try disconnecting it and routing your monitor
directly to the computer on which you're running FM. See if that fixes the
problem. If it does, it's a switch problem.

Also, please write back to tell us if this behavior occurs in any other
software.

Joe

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Thomas Scalise 
thomas.scal...@crossmatch.com wrote:

 Esteemed colleagues,



 I am using FrameMaker 8.0 p273. The program seems very jittery. It flashes
 at me from time to time, and the screen will occasionally go white when I
 click and drag an item. The screen-going-white behavior also occurs when I
 Save as... to create a PDF. It seems to be working okay other than these
 little tics. But, they raise a concern on my mind that something isn't right
 and may rise up at an inopportune moment to bite me in the butt.



 Has anyone else seen this behavior?



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 Manager, Information Development

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Using wickies

[Joe Malin]

"Wiki" and "wiki" are the accepted spelling. I only mention this so you can
maintain your cred with your SMEs.

I've been using a Wiki based on TWiki software for the past two years. I see
no problem in using one to collaborate, as long as you ensure it has these
features:

   - Notification: unfortunately, our wiki was not set up correctly. Nearly
   all its documents were put into one "site" or "web", and the software can
   only send out notifications at the web level. Since we now have more than
   10K documents at the same level, notifications are useless. I suggest that
   you look for software that can notify at the page level, or set up some
   effective system that can notify all authors when a page changes.
   - Change tracking: our wiki does "lock" a page while someone is editing
   it, preventing simultaneous edits. Still, you will want to know what changes
   were applied when you go in to edit. Our wiki also tracks this, and can even
   back out changes.
   - Completeness: Wikis promote the idea that a document is never finished.
   Instead of abhorring this idea, you should embrace it! Within reason, allow
   continual updates to the content. In return, you get the most up-to-date and
   accurate information. You may want to set a "freeze date", and then
   highlight material that changes after that date. Don't lock down your wiki;
   you'll be throwing away one of its major advantages.
   - Responsibility: When you allow multiple people, including customers,
   SMEs, and others to edit, you have to let go somewhat. You should volunteer
   to set up templates and style guidelines. Let go of the idea that you
   control everything. Provide editorial control as a *feature* of your
   involvement. In return, you'll get much more cooperation, and overall a
   better source of information.
   - Findability: If you're going from books to online, remember that you'll
   lose much of the functionality of a TOC, and you won't really have an index.
   Make sure your wiki software has adequate search capabilities.
   - Kruft: Unless you take away the right to create pages from everyone
   except writers, your wiki will accrete "kruft" (the techie word for
   unsightly and useless junk). Be ready for this. I leave it to you to choose
   *how*. In my organization, we simply accept it as a price for "freedom of
   speech". Other wikis, like Wikipedia, maintain a somewhat tighter editorial
   control; they allow new pages but they scrutinize them closely.

These are just some of the considerations. Wikis are a great tool, but you
have to change your mindset to get the best use of them.



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Richard Geiger  wrote:

> Our Honeywell doc group is currently using Frame 7.1, but we're considering
> using a wicki as a doc review "center."  Have any of you used a wicki as a
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> collaborate on the same wicki file that eventually becomes the finished
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FrameMaker 8 behavior

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To all Framers everywhere:

When you post technical problems like this, you'll get the fastest, most
accurate, and most useful response when you add in these points of
information:

   - Which type and version of OS you're on (ie Windows XP Pro, SP 2)
   - Your hardware details (Computer maker and model, amount of RAM, type of
   video card, type of monitor)
   - Your network details including connection type and provider (ie DSL
   from SBC)
   - Version of software you're using (which Thomas has dutifully provided!)
   - *Detailed* steps you use to duplicate the problem.
   - How long the problem has been occurring. Here, Thomas does not say if
   this has always happened or just started.
   - Does it occur with other software?

In the modern world, it also helps to note what type of monitor you're
using, and if you're using any fancy hardware such as a KVM switch (a
hardware device that lets you share a keyboard, video display, and mouse
between two or more computers).

To Thomas:

In this case, I am curious to know if you are using a KVM switch,
particularly one that is connecting two computers that use DVI. I have seen
a similar phenomenon in my home setup, which I attribute to my inexpensive
and therefore somewhat flaky KVM switch. I am supporting two Windows XP Pro
computers, one a homebuilt with a powerful video card using full DVI, and
the other my work Lenovo laptop (through a docking station) also using DVI.

If you are using a KVM switch, try disconnecting it and routing your monitor
directly to the computer on which you're running FM. See if that fixes the
problem. If it does, it's a switch problem.

Also, please write back to tell us if this behavior occurs in any other
software.

Joe

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Thomas Scalise <
Thomas.Scalise at crossmatch.com> wrote:

> Esteemed colleagues,
>
>
>
> I am using FrameMaker 8.0 p273. The program seems very jittery. It flashes
> at me from time to time, and the screen will occasionally go white when I
> click and drag an item. The screen-going-white behavior also occurs when I
> "Save as..." to create a PDF. It seems to be working okay other than these
> little tics. But, they raise a concern on my mind that something isn't right
> and may rise up at an inopportune moment to bite me in the butt.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else seen this behavior?
>
>
>
> Tom Scalise
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Bylaws template for FM 8

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Hi!

Looking for a bylaws template for FM 8. Is someone willing to share for
free?

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Hi!

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Re: Somewhat OT Section 508 and Note, Caution, and Warning Symbols in FM

[Joe Malin]

Call it accessibility (abbreviated A10Y) unless you mean specifically 
that you need to certify under section 508.


Your printed documentation is not likely to be the primary source for 
handicapped users. I assume that they will either use PDF or HTML to 
access the documentation, either with screen readers, or viewers (for 
the deaf) or similar devices. In turn, this means that visually-impaired 
users should get easy-to-read graphics /plus/ text equivalents. The ANSI 
standard symbols ought to be as good as any, but make them visible and 
provide text equivalents for them. Also, remember that color should be 
unimportant.


Joe

Diane Gaskill wrote:

Hi everyone,

We are developing new FM templates for our next release of docs, and we have 
decided to make them 508 compliant.  I have reviewed quite a bit of information 
I found on the net (including the government sites) but I cannot find the 
answer to the one question I have regarding 508.

Are there special 508 versions of Note, Caution, and Warning symbols, or do the 
ANSI standard symbols meet 508 requirements?  At first glance, the ANSI symbols 
seem to meet the requirements, and we are including the words Note, Caution, 
and Warning (in the right cell of the 2-celled tables on the reference page) 
which is what 508 specifies, but I thought I'd check with all the experts on 
our list to make sure.

Thanks in advance for any shared knowledge.

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I use a table rather than a tag. You can build a one-row two-cell table; 
the left cell has the graphic and the right cell has the text. You can 
then put the paragraph tags you want into the text cell.

Knox Drew-KFP368 wrote:
> How do I build a paragraph tag that has the title "Warning," room for a
> para below, a graphic to the left vertically centered, and all of that
> bound by a filled rectangle? 
>  
> I put the word "Warning" into Numbering in the Paragraph Designer but
> can't recall how to include a return for the warning text nor how to
> include the warning graphic.
>  
> I'm also stuck in properly referencing the bounding box. I built a
> filled rectangle on the Reference page but that comes in either above or
> below the word "Warning" instead of enclosing it.
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Somewhat OT Section 508 and Note, Caution, and Warning Symbols in FM

[Joe Malin]

Call it accessibility (abbreviated A10Y) unless you mean specifically 
that you need to certify under section 508.

Your printed documentation is not likely to be the primary source for 
handicapped users. I assume that they will either use PDF or HTML to 
access the documentation, either with screen readers, or viewers (for 
the deaf) or similar devices. In turn, this means that visually-impaired 
users should get easy-to-read graphics /plus/ text equivalents. The ANSI 
standard symbols ought to be as good as any, but make them visible and 
provide text equivalents for them. Also, remember that color should be 
unimportant.

Joe

Diane Gaskill wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We are developing new FM templates for our next release of docs, and we have 
> decided to make them 508 compliant.  I have reviewed quite a bit of 
> information I found on the net (including the government sites) but I cannot 
> find the answer to the one question I have regarding 508.
>
> Are there special 508 versions of Note, Caution, and Warning symbols, or do 
> the ANSI standard symbols meet 508 requirements?  At first glance, the ANSI 
> symbols seem to meet the requirements, and we are including the words Note, 
> Caution, and Warning (in the right cell of the 2-celled tables on the 
> reference page) which is what 508 specifies, but I thought I'd check with all 
> the experts on our list to make sure.
>
> Thanks in advance for any shared knowledge.
>
> Diane Gaskll
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Re: Replacing Framemaker

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I usually ignore what the STC says.

What part of usda is aphis? My mom used to work for arserrc.

JOe

Yves Barbion wrote:

I wouldn't call this lack of recent development:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/framemaker_ap/

Definitely something worth considering if you plan on going structured.





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I usually ignore what the STC says.

What part of usda is aphis? My mom used to work for arserrc.

JOe

Yves Barbion wrote:
> I wouldn't call this "lack of recent development":
>
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>
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

[Joe Malin]

A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:


   * Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
 bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
 use.
   * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
 These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
 cramped.
   * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
 this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
 forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
 configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.


In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my 
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I 
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset. I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.


Joe

John Posada wrote:

--- Richard Doll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
??s follow:



Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.

With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
where you left it before you shut down.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually 
known what the question is.
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

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I use an IBM/Lenovo T43P in a docking station. The docking station has a 
VGA port and a DVI port. This particular laptop has the ATI Mobility 
FireGL V3200. Most video cards these days support dual monitors.


Peter Courlis wrote:

When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?

-pc

*/Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD
displays. I see the following configurations in use:

* Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from
multiple machines.

In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
I am
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
windows
rather than moving one off to the second display.

Joe

John Posada wrote:
 --- Richard Doll wrote:


 As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
 ??s follow:


 Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

 As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
 desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
whatever
 screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
 right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.

 With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
 monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

 As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
when
 you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
 where you left it before you shut down.

 John Posada
 Senior Technical Writer

 I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

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This is another configuration that's often used here.

John Posada wrote:

I have a laptop. Laptops have an external video port. The laptop is
the left monitior and the 17 LCD is the right monitor.


--- Peter Courlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
  
  -pc


Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A slight hijack: for people
who are using dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:


* Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
  bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is
what I
  use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of
course.
  These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it
felt
  cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually
see
  this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/
(top
  forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite.
The
  configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.


In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my

normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I

think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in
an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.


Joe

John Posada wrote:


--- Richard Doll  wrote:

  
  

As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . .


My


??s follow:



Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
  

whatever


screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to
  

the


right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things
  

around.


With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the
  

left


monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
  

when


you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
where you left it before you shut down.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've
  

never actually known what the question is.


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A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:

* Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
  bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
  use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
  These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
  cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
  this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
  forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
  configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.

In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my 
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I 
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset. I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.

Joe

John Posada wrote:
> --- Richard Doll  wrote:
>
>   
>> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
>> ??s follow:
>> 
>
> Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
>
> As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
> desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
> screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
> right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.
>
> With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
> monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
>
> As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
> you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
> where you left it before you shut down.
>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
> actually known what the question is."
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

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I use an IBM/Lenovo T43P in a docking station. The docking station has a 
VGA port and a DVI port. This particular laptop has the ATI Mobility 
FireGL V3200. Most video cards these days support dual monitors.

Peter Courlis wrote:
> When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
>
> -pc
>
> */Joe Malin /* wrote:
>
> A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what
> configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD
> displays. I see the following configurations in use:
>
> * Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
> bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
> use.
> * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
> These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
> cramped.
> * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
> this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
> forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
> configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.
>
> I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from
> multiple machines.
>
> In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
> normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
> think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
> I am
> just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an
> old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
> windows
> rather than moving one off to the second display.
>
> Joe
>
> John Posada wrote:
> > --- Richard Doll wrote:
> >
> >
> >> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
> >> ??s follow:
> >>
> >
> > Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
> >
> > As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
> > desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
> whatever
> > screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
> > right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.
> >
> > With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
> > monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
> >
> > As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
> when
> > you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
> > where you left it before you shut down.
> >
> > John Posada
> > Senior Technical Writer
> >
> > "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that
> you've never actually known what the question is."
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

[Joe Malin]

This is another configuration that's often used here.

John Posada wrote:
> I have a laptop. Laptops have an external video port. The laptop is
> the left monitior and the 17" LCD is the right monitor.
>
>
> --- Peter Courlis  wrote:
>
>   
>> When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
>>   
>>   -pc
>>
>> Joe Malin  wrote:  A slight hijack: for people
>> who are using dual monitors, what 
>> configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
>> LCD 
>> displays. I see the following configurations in use:
>>
>> * Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
>>   bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is
>> what I
>>   use.
>> * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of
>> course.
>>   These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it
>> felt
>>   cramped.
>> * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually
>> see
>>   this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/
>> (top
>>   forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite.
>> The
>>   configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.
>>
>> I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
>> multiple machines.
>>
>> In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
>>
>> normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
>>
>> think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
>> I am 
>> just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in
>> an 
>> old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
>> windows 
>> rather than moving one off to the second display.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> John Posada wrote:
>> 
>>> --- Richard Doll  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . .
>>>> 
>> My
>> 
>>>> ??s follow:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
>>>
>>> As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
>>> desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
>>>   
>> whatever
>> 
>>> screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things
>>>   
>> around.
>> 
>>> With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the
>>>   
>> left
>> 
>>> monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
>>>
>>> As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
>>>   
>> when
>> 
>>> you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
>>> where you left it before you shut down.
>>>
>>> John Posada
>>> Senior Technical Writer
>>>
>>> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've
>>>   
>> never actually known what the question is."
>> 
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> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
> actually known what the question is."
>
>   

Re: Clear Quest/Case with Framemaker files

[Joe Malin]

What he's saying is that FM files are binary, which means they're not
composed entirely of printable characters (that's a simplified
explanation). You can't do the normal type of ClearCase operation on
them. That probably freaks him out. It shouldn't; I have used ClearCase
and other SCM products before with FM files with no problems.

I can only guess that he has a set process that doesn't account for
binary files. If so, I can't imagine how he handles graphics files like
JPGs. Maybe he thinks that he's responsible for merging changes that
multiple writers make to the same FM file. I can't imagine that you are
doing this anyway. I can not honestly think of any other reason to use
XML instead of FM.

I should explain that diff/merge handles the typically programming
situation. Two or more engineers must edit the same source file. They
then have to check their changes back in. Inevitably, one gets there
first, leaving the other to check in his or her changes on the changes
made by the first one. Rather than having one set of edits overwrite the
other, the SCM program runs a diff (named after the old UN*X command)
on the files to find out what's different between the two. Based on
this, it suggests a merge strategy. The engineer checking in the file
works with the program to make the merge.

Engineers quite often have to share source files. In the old days, they
shared .h header files used by the C programming language. Nowadays,
they may share a Java resource bundle, an XML configuration file, or
other source file.

In comparison, writers usually don't do this. We use SCM to make
different versions (branches) of our files, back them up, and integrate
them with the product build process. As I have said, FM files work fine
in SCM, and PDF files also work.

Show this e-mail to your engineer. I'd like to know what his response is.

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
 All,

 My SCM guy is swearing that Framemaker and Clear Quest/Case don't play
 nicely together. I am not even remotely knowledgeable enough about Clear
 Quest/Case to refute any of his concerns. At previous gigs, we used
 either CMVC and therefore, just checked in/out the PDFs (never had to
 deal w/ the Framemaker source files) or VSS, which meant that Framemaker
 source files were not an issue. VSS handled them just fine. If anybody
 can provide any insight whatsoever about using Framemaker and having
 Clear Quest/Case as your source control tool that would be great. Is
 there anything special that I have to do with the Framemaker source
 files. (Right now, my SCM guy wants me to save them as XML files - I
 can't intelligently explain as to why this is his reasoning), and I
 don't see any need to link the Framemaker files in a book in Clear Case,
 but he says that has to be done and he needs to figure out how. So, any
 and all advice is appreciated.

 Thanks in Advance,

 TVB

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Clear Quest/Case with Framemaker files

[Joe Malin]

What he's saying is that FM files are "binary", which means they're not
composed entirely of printable characters (that's a simplified
explanation). You can't do the "normal" type of ClearCase operation on
them. That probably freaks him out. It shouldn't; I have used ClearCase
and other SCM products before with FM files with no problems.

I can only guess that he has a set process that doesn't account for
binary files. If so, I can't imagine how he handles graphics files like
JPGs. Maybe he thinks that he's responsible for merging changes that
multiple writers make to the same FM file. I can't imagine that you are
doing this anyway. I can not honestly think of any other reason to use
XML instead of FM.

I should explain that diff/merge handles the typically programming
situation. Two or more engineers must edit the same source file. They
then have to check their changes back in. Inevitably, one gets there
first, leaving the other to check in his or her changes on the changes
made by the first one. Rather than having one set of edits overwrite the
other, the SCM program runs a "diff" (named after the old UN*X command)
on the files to find out what's different between the two. Based on
this, it suggests a merge strategy. The engineer checking in the file
works with the program to make the merge.

Engineers quite often have to share source files. In the old days, they
shared .h header files used by the C programming language. Nowadays,
they may share a Java resource bundle, an XML configuration file, or
other source file.

In comparison, writers usually don't do this. We use SCM to make
different versions (branches) of our files, back them up, and integrate
them with the product build process. As I have said, FM files work fine
in SCM, and PDF files also work.

Show this e-mail to your engineer. I'd like to know what his response is.

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> All,
>
> My SCM guy is swearing that Framemaker and Clear Quest/Case don't play
> nicely together. I am not even remotely knowledgeable enough about Clear
> Quest/Case to refute any of his concerns. At previous gigs, we used
> either CMVC and therefore, just checked in/out the PDFs (never had to
> deal w/ the Framemaker source files) or VSS, which meant that Framemaker
> source files were not an issue. VSS handled them just fine. If anybody
> can provide any insight whatsoever about using Framemaker and having
> Clear Quest/Case as your source control tool that would be great. Is
> there anything special that I have to do with the Framemaker source
> files. (Right now, my SCM guy wants me to save them as XML files - I
> can't intelligently explain as to why this is his reasoning), and I
> don't see any need to link the Framemaker files in a book in Clear Case,
> but he says that has to be done and he needs to figure out how. So, any
> and all advice is appreciated.
>
> Thanks in Advance,
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Engineering Technical Writer
> InsureWorx
> 303-729-7733
> tvanboening at insureworx.com
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Re: Framemaker Plug-in for Clear Quest/Clear Case?

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

I have used FrameMaker and ClearCase before. I don't particularly see a
need to link together all the files in a book within ClearCase, unless
you're going directly from ClearCase to FM or invoking ClearCase from FM
itself. Of course, you have to treat FM files as binary; you can't
compare unstructured files and comparing MIF or SGML/XML files makes
little sense.

PDFs also have to be treated as binary. Also be sure to test your files
between platforms if you are working in a mixed Windows/UN*X environment.

Joe

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
 All,

 New gig here and like so many others have done on this list, getting
 them converted from Word to Framemaker. My SCM guy just stopped by to
 talk to me about getting the Framemaker files into Clear Case. He has
 worked with Framemaker files before (yea!) and seems to remember a long
 time ago that there was a plug-in that helped link all the files in a
 Framemaker book when using Clear Case. Does anyone know of such a
 plug-in or heard of one? And, if you're using Clear Case with
 Framemaker, any helpful tidbits, bites of knowledge, gotcha's, etc. that
 I would need to know would be most helpful. (At previous gigs, we used
 either VSS, so Framemaker files weren't an issue, or CMVC, so we just
 used the PDFs and worked with the deltas between releases.)

 TIA,

 TVB

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Re: Continuous Numbering in framemaker

[Joe Malin]

This a bit tricky. I haven't done it before, but I found instructions
for it in the Adobe FrameMaker help. The topic title is

Including the total page count of a book in a header or footer

The Page Count ($lastpagenum) variable ordinarily resets on a
file-by-file basis, but you can make it do otherwise.

Joe

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
  
  

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 From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:42 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [techcomm-discuss] Continuous Numbering in framemaker


  Oops - fat-fingered some numbers in my statement. see corrections
 below. Thanks! 



 Hi All, 

 I am in the process of migrating existing draft documentation in Word to
 final version documentation in Framemaker. The old Word documentation
 was but a single file - the first page was reserved for cover
 information, the second page was Word's TOC, and the remaining pages
 were the content of the document. The old numbering scheme, beginning
 with the first page was Page # of #, which for a single document in
 Word, worked fine. In Framemaker, I have split up this large document
 into three separate files - Cover File, TOC, and the Chapter document. I
 have been asked to keep the numbering scheme the same - Page # of Total
 Page Count. I know how to keep the numbering continuous across the
 files, but the system variable that keeps total page count is obviously
 on a per file basis. For example, the singe Cover page file has no
 number, but the first page of the TOC says page 2 of 4 (because it is
 the second page in the book, and there are four pages in the TOC total),
 so the next page says Page 3 of 4 and the final page says Page 4 of 4.
 When I open the document chapter, it says Page 5 of 19, because the
 first page of the content chapter is indeed the fifth page in the book,
 but there are 19 pages in the Content chapter. What do I need to do to
 get this to number the same way as Word - if it's possible for files in
 a book? I want the first page of the TOC to say page  2  of 24, the
 second page to say page  3  of 24, etc. and I want the first page of the
 Content Chapter to say Page 5 of 24, etc.

 TIA, 

 TVB 

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Re: ToolbarPlus Express

[Joe Malin]

Yes, I apologize to Shlomo, that is correct.

Fred Ridder wrote:
 It wasn't a bug in Shlomo's tool; it was a deliberate design decision.
 The issue was (and still is) a bug in FrameMaker itself which allows
 the toolbar list box to display something other than the tag that is
 applied to the current paragraph, making the display unreliable.
 What Shlomo chose to do was hide the unreliable display while
 still allowing you to pull down the list and select a different tag
 to apply.


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 Subject: ToolbarPlus Express
 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:07 -0700

 Hi!

 Interesting question regarding Shlomo's excellent ToolbarPlus Express
 tool. The tool originally had a bug where the Paragraph Tag dropdown
 box was nearly invisible. I know there's a fix for this, but I can't
 remember what it is. Can anyone help?

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ToolbarPlus Express

[Joe Malin]

Yes, I apologize to Shlomo, that is correct.

Fred Ridder wrote:
> It wasn't a bug in Shlomo's tool; it was a deliberate design decision.
> The issue was (and still is) a bug in FrameMaker itself which allows
> the toolbar list box to display something other than the tag that is
> applied to the current paragraph, making the display unreliable.
> What Shlomo chose to do was hide the unreliable display while
> still allowing you to pull down the list and select a different tag
> to apply.
>
>
>> From: Joe Malin 
>> Reply-To: jmalin at jmalin.com
>> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: ToolbarPlus Express
>> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:31:07 -0700
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Interesting question regarding Shlomo's excellent ToolbarPlus Express
>> tool. The tool originally had a "bug" where the Paragraph Tag dropdown
>> box was nearly invisible. I know there's a fix for this, but I can't
>> remember what it is. Can anyone help?
>>
>> Joe
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Framemaker Plug-in for Clear Quest/Clear Case?

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

I have used FrameMaker and ClearCase before. I don't particularly see a
need to link together all the files in a book within ClearCase, unless
you're going directly from ClearCase to FM or invoking ClearCase from FM
itself. Of course, you have to treat FM files as binary; you can't
compare unstructured files and comparing MIF or SGML/XML files makes
little sense.

PDFs also have to be treated as binary. Also be sure to test your files
between platforms if you are working in a mixed Windows/UN*X environment.

Joe

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> All,
>
> New gig here and like so many others have done on this list, getting
> them converted from Word to Framemaker. My SCM guy just stopped by to
> talk to me about getting the Framemaker files into Clear Case. He has
> worked with Framemaker files before (yea!) and seems to remember a long
> time ago that there was a plug-in that helped link all the files in a
> Framemaker book when using Clear Case. Does anyone know of such a
> plug-in or heard of one? And, if you're using Clear Case with
> Framemaker, any helpful tidbits, bites of knowledge, gotcha's, etc. that
> I would need to know would be most helpful. (At previous gigs, we used
> either VSS, so Framemaker files weren't an issue, or CMVC, so we just
> used the PDFs and worked with the deltas between releases.)
>
> TIA,
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Engineering Technical Writer
> InsureWorx
> 303-729-7733
> tvanboening at insureworx.com
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Question on external formats and question on TOC settings

[Joe Malin]

Two excellent questions.

The first one I have run into before; I just finished working as a lone
writer who had to do exactly what you are doing.

FM does not have an "external" formats doc. What you can do, though, is
apply the formats in a document to all the files in a book. To do this,
you open the "style" document, then select all the files in the book,
then select File > Import > Formats and choose the formats you want to
apply. This will overwrite formats with the same name, add new formats,
and leave old formats unchanged.

If all you are doing is updating formats, you're set. The new
definitions overwrite the old ones. That still leaves you with the issue
of "converting" formats. For example, how do you move everything with
paragraph format Para2 to a new format Para3?

For this, I recommend to you two very useful FM add-ons by Silicon
Prairie: Character Tools and Paragraph Tools. You can find a useful
description of them, and many other add-ins, at this wonderful site:
http://leximation.com/toolsearch/?type=P=FM

Character Tools and Paragraph Tools were lifesavers for me. In short,
they convert characters and paragraphs from one tag format to another.
Once you have these tools, your task is much simpler.

Another technique: if all you want to do is apply *one* format change,
and leave everything else the same, create a throwaway document that
contains the new format, delete all the other formats from it, and then
apply that document.

As you come up with new and improved formats, store them in new template
files. For example, store all the formats you use in normal chapters in
a chapter template file chapter.fm. You can then start with that and
have everything set from the beginning.

I can offer more detailed advice, but this is the best I can do late at
night!

The tab issue is easier to solve, but you do have to understand how
generated TOCs work.

When FM creates a TOC, it creates a xxxTOC paragraph format for every
xxx paragraph format you specify should be in the TOC. So, if you say
that you want Head2 format paragraphs listed in the TOC, you
automatically get a Head2TOC paragraph format.

FM applies the Head2TOC format to Head2 entries it adds in the TOC. *In
addition*, FM creates a line in the TOC reference page for the TOC. This
line is a mask or template that defines what the Head2 entry will look
like. You can modify this line to format Head2 entries. For example, you
can put this in (I put tab characters in parentheses for clarity; if you
turn on text symbols, you can see them as a single right parenthesis):

(tab)<$paratext>(tab)...<$pagenum>

The paragraph format for this line must be Head2TOC.

You put the actual tabs into *this* line in your reference page. FM then
automatically expands the variables to their value for the Head2 entry
and inserts the tab. You do not have to put the tabs in manually.

You do have to set up the Head2TOC paragraph format. You can edit it
just like any other format. Once you have set it up, FM will not
overwrite it. You have to define the tab positions and the leader. In my
example, you get the "." if you put that in as the leader for
the second tab in the paragraph format. You will also want to set the
second tab to be a "right" tab so that all your numbers line up on the
right.

Read the FM online help about tabs. They don't work the same as in MS Word.

Paul Pehrson wrote:
> Hello fellow Frame users,
>
> This is my first post to the list; I joined yesterday. I've been using
> Frame
> for about two years, but I only recently started a job where I'm a lone
> writer, in charge of all documentation for my organization.
> Previously, I've
> been using Frame, but my supervisor was the one who created/updated all
> templates, formats, etc., so I didn't really learn to use a lot of
> Frame's
> features.
>
> I'm excited to be on this list and to learn from your collective
> experience.
>
> Today I come with two questions. First: is there a way to use an external
> formats document similar to a CSS style sheet using unstructured Frame?
>
> I have four books that I'm developing concurrently. The average book
> has 6
> chapters, so I've got a good number of individual .fm documents I'm
> working
> with. As I go, I'm encountering new format needs. I modify the format
> accordingly, but then I have to import that document's formats into
> all the
> other documents I'm working with. I'd like to know if Frame has an
> external
> formats document that can be referenced, such that formats changed in
> that
> document are automatically reflected across all documents that link to
> that
> formats doc. Does that make sense? Do you know any way to make Frame do
> this? (I'm stuck with Frame 7.0 for now.)
>
> Second: When you build a TOC, is there a way to get Frame to insert a tab
> between the heading text and the page number? I'm having to do this
> manually
> every time I build the book files (which is daily, because I'm making my
> 

Continuous Numbering in framemaker

[Joe Malin]

This a bit tricky. I haven't done it before, but I found instructions
for it in the Adobe FrameMaker help. The topic title is

"Including the total page count of a book in a header or footer"

The Page Count (<$lastpagenum>) variable ordinarily resets on a
file-by-file basis, but you can make it do otherwise.

Joe

Tammy Van Boening wrote:
>  
>  
>
> Tammy Van Boening 
> Engineering Technical Writer 
> InsureWorx 
> 303-729-7733 
> tvanboening at insureworx.com 
> *** 
> Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way 
>
>  
>
> 
>
> From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:tvanboening at insureworx.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:42 AM
> To: techcomm-discuss at stcrmc.org
> Subject: [techcomm-discuss] Continuous Numbering in framemaker
>
>
>  Oops - fat-fingered some numbers in my statement. see corrections
> below. Thanks! 
>
>
>
> Hi All, 
>
> I am in the process of migrating existing draft documentation in Word to
> final version documentation in Framemaker. The old Word documentation
> was but a single file - the first page was reserved for cover
> information, the second page was Word's TOC, and the remaining pages
> were the content of the document. The old numbering scheme, beginning
> with the first page was Page # of #, which for a single document in
> Word, worked fine. In Framemaker, I have split up this large document
> into three separate files - Cover File, TOC, and the Chapter document. I
> have been asked to keep the numbering scheme the same - Page # of Total
> Page Count. I know how to keep the numbering continuous across the
> files, but the system variable that keeps total page count is obviously
> on a per file basis. For example, the singe Cover page file has no
> number, but the first page of the TOC says page 2 of 4 (because it is
> the second page in the book, and there are four pages in the TOC total),
> so the next page says Page 3 of 4 and the final page says Page 4 of 4.
> When I open the document chapter, it says Page 5 of 19, because the
> first page of the content chapter is indeed the fifth page in the book,
> but there are 19 pages in the Content chapter. What do I need to do to
> get this to number the same way as Word - if it's possible for files in
> a book? I want the first page of the TOC to say page  2  of 24, the
> second page to say page  3  of 24, etc. and I want the first page of the
> Content Chapter to say Page 5 of 24, etc.
>
> TIA, 
>
> TVB 
>
> Tammy Van Boening 
> Engineering Technical Writer 
> InsureWorx 
> 303-729-7733 
> tvanboening at insureworx.com 
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ToolbarPlus Express

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

Interesting question regarding Shlomo's excellent ToolbarPlus Express
tool. The tool originally had a "bug" where the Paragraph Tag dropdown
box was nearly invisible. I know there's a fix for this, but I can't
remember what it is. Can anyone help?

Joe

Ooops (Is this gonna go through?)

[Joe Malin]

Hey!

Uh, I've been laid off, again. Bummer! On the other hand, I had already
been thinking it was time for me to move on. The company has changed
directions, and just doesn't need a tech writer, especially now that
I've finished the last round of documentation!

If you're in the SF Bay Area and you want a really skilled API-level
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Sorry if this breaks the rules of some list; I am really bad at *not*
paying attention to the list rules.

Joe
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Ooops (Is this gonna go through?)

[Joe Malin]

Hey!

Uh, I've been laid off, again. Bummer! On the other hand, I had already
been thinking it was time for me to move on. The company has changed
directions, and just doesn't need a tech writer, especially now that
I've finished the last round of documentation!

If you're in the SF Bay Area and you want a really skilled API-level
tech writer, drop me a note at jmalin at jmalin.com.

Sorry if this breaks the rules of some list; I am really bad at *not*
paying attention to the list rules.

Joe

RE: Docbook versus Home-Grown

[Joe Malin]

Thanks for the quick reply. I have worked in structured FM before, using
someone else's EDD. I think I understand structure pretty well. I have
worked with XML and HTML quite extensively both as a software developer
and as a writer. 

I don't mind writing an EDD from the ground up. What I want to avoid is
producing an EDD that is off-track from easy conversion to DocBook XML.
My overall goal is to convert my unstructured FM to structured FM and
then to XML on the way to HTML. Obviously this will be a long project. 

One of the important constraints is that I have to do it for 0 dollars.
Though I want to have single-source and people here like the idea, I
don't think anyone here needs it urgently enough to spend money on it,
yet.

Joe

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-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:36 AM
To: Joe Malin
Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Docbook versus Home-Grown

At 11:22 -0700 7/10/06, Joe Malin wrote:

Well, I *finally* finished the new book for our next software release,
so I can justifiably turn my attention to getting myself into structured
docs.

I am not going to go with DITA just yet. My plan is to convert my
existing unstructured docs to structure first, and then start the next
round of docs in DITA. So, my first decision is what EDD to use. Should
I develop an EDD myself from scratch, or start with the DocBook EDD? My
only hesitation in using the DocBook EDD is that it will have a lot of
elements that I don't want to use.

Any advice, particularly from those who have gone the same route, would
be much appreciated.

Hi Joe

I was in exactly the same position about a year and a half ago, and was
involved in a most helpful discussion with several structured experts on
this list, so first off you should fine some relevant stuff in the
archives. One thread was titled 'Structured Frame novice falls in at the
deep end' (that was me), another 'Structure/Schema - Custom or off the
shelf?'. If that fails for you, mail me off-list and I'll forward
something.

The issue you raise is a big one and one that can have ramifications
down the line. In the end, the right route for me was a 'roll your own'
EDD, but that doesn't mean that it's the right one for you. I think of
it as the 'BigSmall' decision, but that will have no resonances for
anyone who doesn't watch UK commercial television (it features on a
Toyota ad for the Yaris).

There are many pros and cons in both approaches. If you are new to
structure, as I was, you will be floundering in trying to cut down a big
EDD, whereas with familiarity it would not be too bad a job. Conversely,
again if you are new to structure, writing your own simple EDD from the
ground up is a great way to learn.

There is also Scriptorium's 'DocFrame' product, which as I understand it
is DocBook tamed: http://www.scriptorium.com/docframe/index.html. I
believe that there are people on the list who have used it, although I
haven't. Clearly, you have to pay for it.


Orthogonal to the decision you are battling with, and applying only if
you 'roll your own', is the decision over how much authority you will
give the EDD over formatting. Again, molto argumentos. Some things, such
as indented lists, are easier if the EDD is given some formatting
authority (ie. 'if level 2, set indent to X'), although my current
preference is to keep structure and presentation completely separate,
the first in the EDD  (i.e. 'if list level 2, set para tag X') and the
second in the template. This is in line with what I beleive software
folks refer to as 'the principle of the separation of concerns'.

HTH

-- 
Steve
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Docbook versus Home-Grown

[Joe Malin]

Thanks for the quick reply. I have worked in structured FM before, using
someone else's EDD. I think I understand structure pretty well. I have
worked with XML and HTML quite extensively both as a software developer
and as a writer. 

I don't mind writing an EDD from the ground up. What I want to avoid is
producing an EDD that is off-track from easy conversion to DocBook XML.
My overall goal is to convert my unstructured FM to structured FM and
then to XML on the way to HTML. Obviously this will be a long project. 

One of the important constraints is that I have to do it for 0 dollars.
Though I want to have single-source and people here like the idea, I
don't think anyone here needs it urgently enough to spend money on it,
yet.

Joe

 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] 
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:36 AM
To: Joe Malin
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Docbook versus Home-Grown

At 11:22 -0700 7/10/06, Joe Malin wrote:

>Well, I *finally* finished the new book for our next software release,
so I can justifiably turn my attention to getting myself into structured
docs.
>
>I am not going to go with DITA just yet. My plan is to convert my
existing unstructured docs to structure first, and then start the next
round of docs in DITA. So, my first decision is what EDD to use. Should
I develop an EDD myself from scratch, or start with the DocBook EDD? My
only hesitation in using the DocBook EDD is that it will have a lot of
elements that I don't want to use.
>
>Any advice, particularly from those who have gone the same route, would
be much appreciated.

Hi Joe

I was in exactly the same position about a year and a half ago, and was
involved in a most helpful discussion with several structured experts on
this list, so first off you should fine some relevant stuff in the
archives. One thread was titled 'Structured Frame novice falls in at the
deep end' (that was me), another 'Structure/Schema - Custom or off the
shelf?'. If that fails for you, mail me off-list and I'll forward
something.

The issue you raise is a big one and one that can have ramifications
down the line. In the end, the right route for me was a 'roll your own'
EDD, but that doesn't mean that it's the right one for you. I think of
it as the 'BigSmall' decision, but that will have no resonances for
anyone who doesn't watch UK commercial television (it features on a
Toyota ad for the Yaris).

There are many pros and cons in both approaches. If you are new to
structure, as I was, you will be floundering in trying to cut down a big
EDD, whereas with familiarity it would not be too bad a job. Conversely,
again if you are new to structure, writing your own simple EDD from the
ground up is a great way to learn.

There is also Scriptorium's 'DocFrame' product, which as I understand it
is DocBook tamed: <http://www.scriptorium.com/docframe/index.html>. I
believe that there are people on the list who have used it, although I
haven't. Clearly, you have to pay for it.


Orthogonal to the decision you are battling with, and applying only if
you 'roll your own', is the decision over how much authority you will
give the EDD over formatting. Again, molto argumentos. Some things, such
as indented lists, are easier if the EDD is given some formatting
authority (ie. 'if level 2, set indent to X'), although my current
preference is to keep structure and presentation completely separate,
the first in the EDD  (i.e. 'if list level 2, set para tag X') and the
second in the template. This is in line with what I beleive software
folks refer to as 'the principle of the separation of concerns'.

HTH

-- 
Steve

Docbook versus Home-Grown

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

 

Well, I *finally* finished the new book for our next software release,
so I can justifiably turn my attention to getting myself into structured
docs.

 

I am not going to go with DITA just yet. My plan is to convert my
existing unstructured docs to structure first, and then start the next
round of docs in DITA. So, my first decision is what EDD to use. Should
I develop an EDD myself from scratch, or start with the DocBook EDD? My
only hesitation in using the DocBook EDD is that it will have a lot of
elements that I don't want to use.

 

Any advice, particularly from those who have gone the same route, would
be much appreciated.

 

As you probably know, I have many years experience in software
development, so developing my own EDD is not an issue.

 

Joe

 


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Docbook versus Home-Grown

[Joe Malin]

Hi!



Well, I *finally* finished the new book for our next software release,
so I can justifiably turn my attention to getting myself into structured
docs.



I am not going to go with DITA just yet. My plan is to convert my
existing unstructured docs to structure first, and then start the next
round of docs in DITA. So, my first decision is what EDD to use. Should
I develop an EDD myself from scratch, or start with the DocBook EDD? My
only hesitation in using the DocBook EDD is that it will have a lot of
elements that I don't want to use.



Any advice, particularly from those who have gone the same route, would
be much appreciated.



As you probably know, I have many years experience in software
development, so developing my own EDD is not an issue.



Joe




TuVox, Inc.


19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715

Joe Malin

Technical Writer

(408)625.1623

jmalin at tuvox.com

www.tuvox.com

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Experiences with MIF2GO and Webworks Pro

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

 

From time to time I hear rumblings about having an HTML version of my
documentation, which I currently have in unstructured Frame. In an
effort to wow my manager and spare myself sudden, shocking, and
twitch-inducing stress, I'm being *proactive* about this. My long-term
goal (once I get all these darn alligators off my ass) is to use DITA.
In the short term, I'm investigating ways to convert FM to HTML. 

 

WebWorks Standard doesn't seem to do enough; for example, I can't set up
macros for handling tables and character formats. WebWorks Pro handles
the stuff I want, but the price tag would go over like a dirigible made
of depleted uranium. I don't know much about MIF2GO, but I have heard
good things about it. I am going to look at the demo version; meanwhile,
I eagerly(?) await your experiences, opinions, and general rants and
raves about either or both of these products.

 

I have tried using the conversion tool in FM itself, but the
documentation for it is, shall we say, a bit sparse...

 

Joe

 


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Experiences with MIF2GO and Webworks Pro

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Hi!

RE: Icon resource ID

[Joe Malin]

Is this in relation to using the FDK? I assume that they're talking
about an icon defined in a Windows resource file. In the Windows API
architecture, you can use resource files to define GUI components such
as controls, dialogs, menus, and icons. The basic file structure is a
resource, identified by a number, followed by the resource's definition.
Since numbers would be hard to keep track of, you can use a C-style
header file to define symbols for each number.

Joe

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Subject: Icon resource ID

Hi all,
does anyone know where I can get data on Icon Resource IDs. I'm adding
Icons 
to my ToolBar but ran into this ID thing. Can't find where they are
defined.
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Icon resource ID

[Joe Malin]

Is this in relation to using the FDK? I assume that they're talking
about an icon defined in a Windows resource file. In the Windows API
architecture, you can use resource files to define GUI components such
as controls, dialogs, menus, and icons. The basic file structure is a
resource, identified by a number, followed by the resource's definition.
Since numbers would be hard to keep track of, you can use a C-style
header file to define symbols for each number.

Joe

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Of Michael Zaichenko
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:49 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Icon resource ID

Hi all,
does anyone know where I can get data on Icon Resource IDs. I'm adding
Icons 
to my ToolBar but ran into this ID thing. Can't find where they are
defined.
Michael

RE: Question about Rational SODA tool

[Joe Malin]

Hunh? As far as I can tell, Rational SoDA is a tool for *managing* the
*internal* documentation associated with projects. Nothing on the web
page suggests that you can write user-oriented documentation with it. If
nobody from the IBM tech pubs area responds, I can get some colleagues
from there to comment. I'm sure that IBM itself is *not* using Rational
SoDA for this, at least around here (Silicon Valley). That ought to be
an indication.

Can your colleague join the list and elaborate what's going on? Maybe
she's misinterpreted what they're asking her to do?

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Subject: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool

All,

I have a colleague who is being told that Framemaker is to go bye-bye
very 
soon and that she will be needing to use Rational SODA to develop her 
documentation. I have googled this tool (as has she) and if they (as in 
her powers-that-be) want a developer who likes to write, then this would

appear to be the tool of choice; however, for classic end-user 
deliverables such as Sys Admin guides, User Guides, OLH, etc. is does
not 
appear to be the tool to use. She is desperately needing some supporting

arguments/input to validate why Framemaker needs to stay.

Has anybody used this tool? Does anybody know anything about it?
Arguments 
for/against using it as a classic TW tool? This list has so many 
literate, articulate and knowledgable folks, I am sure somebody has 
experience with this or can explain the for/against tool arguments and 
help her along - Fred, John, Shlomo, Steve, Peter, Lynn, Kay, Bernard, 
etc. . . . Calling all to arms!
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RE: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool

[Joe Malin]

I wasn't questioning the FM is dead. I'm just really surprised to see
that they'd replace FM with Soda. To me, that's like replacing Eclipse
with FM!
 
Joe



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Subject: Re: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool



My bad - as a technical writer, I should have been much more clear - she
is being told that Framemaker is going bye-bye at her organization
because the powers that be insist Rational Soda will do the same thing -
not Framemaker overall going bye-bye. 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

09/05/2006 12:42 PM 

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Re: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool






At 08:46 -0600 5/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a colleague who is being told that Framemaker is to go bye-bye
very
soon and that she will be needing to use Rational SODA to develop her
documentation.

And could we have some informed comment on this, please? I know folks
like Bernard get sick of refuting 'FrameMaker is dead' rumors, but they
scare the living wossnames out of the rest of us for whom FrameMaker is
an essential part of our professional lives.

-- 
Steve


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Question about Rational SODA tool

[Joe Malin]

Hunh? As far as I can tell, Rational SoDA is a tool for *managing* the
*internal* documentation associated with projects. Nothing on the web
page suggests that you can write user-oriented documentation with it. If
nobody from the IBM tech pubs area responds, I can get some colleagues
from there to comment. I'm sure that IBM itself is *not* using Rational
SoDA for this, at least around here (Silicon Valley). That ought to be
an indication.

Can your colleague join the list and elaborate what's going on? Maybe
she's misinterpreted what they're asking her to do?

 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
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[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:46 AM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool

All,

I have a colleague who is being told that Framemaker is to go bye-bye
very 
soon and that she will be needing to use Rational SODA to develop her 
documentation. I have googled this tool (as has she) and if they (as in 
her powers-that-be) want a developer who likes to write, then this would

appear to be the tool of choice; however, for "classic" end-user 
deliverables such as Sys Admin guides, User Guides, OLH, etc. is does
not 
appear to be the tool to use. She is desperately needing some supporting

arguments/input to validate why Framemaker needs to stay.

Has anybody used this tool? Does anybody know anything about it?
Arguments 
for/against using it as a classic TW tool? This list has so many 
literate, articulate and knowledgable folks, I am sure somebody has 
experience with this or can explain the for/against tool arguments and 
help her along - Fred, John, Shlomo, Steve, Peter, Lynn, Kay, Bernard, 
etc. . . . Calling all to arms!

OT: Question about Rational SODA tool

[Joe Malin]

I wasn't questioning the FM is dead. I'm just really surprised to see
that they'd replace FM with Soda. To me, that's like replacing Eclipse
with FM!

Joe



From: tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
[mailto:Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Steve Rickaby
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com; Joe Malin
Subject: Re: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool



My bad - as a technical writer, I should have been much more clear - she
is being told that Framemaker is going bye-bye at her organization
because the powers that be insist Rational Soda will do the same thing -
not Framemaker overall going bye-bye. 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com 



Steve Rickaby  

09/05/2006 12:42 PM 

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cc
Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com, "Joe Malin"  
Subject
Re: OT: Question about Rational SODA tool






At 08:46 -0600 5/9/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:

>I have a colleague who is being told that Framemaker is to go bye-bye
very
>soon and that she will be needing to use Rational SODA to develop her
>documentation.

And could we have some informed comment on this, please? I know folks
like Bernard get sick of refuting 'FrameMaker is dead' rumors, but they
scare the living wossnames out of the rest of us for whom FrameMaker is
an essential part of our professional lives.

-- 
Steve

RE: Character formatting problem

[Joe Malin]

You're not missing anything. The FM interface is quite confusing for
this task.

I do character tags with the following steps:
1. Open the Character Designer (I use CTRL+D)
2. In the document, click to clear any selections. To verify you've done
it correctly, the
   *Character Tag* text box in the Designer should be blank.
3. Select *Commands  New Format*.
4. Enter a name for the new tag. In your case, it would be Subscript.
5. Set *Store in Catalog*, but _clear_ *Apply to Selection*.
6. Click *Create*. _Notice that the *Character Tag* text box is still
blank._
7. With the insertion point still outside a selection, select
*Subscript* from the Designer
   dropdown box.
8. Set or clear the options you want. For a plain subscript, set
everything to *As Is*, and set
   the *Spread* and *Stretch* fields to blank. Also clear all the
options at the right of the
   Designer.
9. Set the checkbox next to *Superscript/Subscript*, then select
*Subscript* from the dropdown
   box.
10.Click *Update All*.

Test this. You should see a subscript. 

_Notice that the Character Designer shows you all the other settings
that previously applied to 
your selection_. That is, Character Designer does *not* switch to *As
Is* when you make a
selection. Instead, it shows the _current state_.

That's the confusing part of the UI. FM dialogs work that way. FM didn't
start out as a Windows app, so its UI does not show a Microsoft
influence. You may find it confusing; when I was first starting, I sure
did! In fairness to both Adobe and FM, it is confusing because it is not
what we expect.



 Joe Malin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of Charles Beck
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:48 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Character formatting problem

Fellow Framers,
 
I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This
format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
(relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the As
Is option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it (As Is)
and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
the paragraph I am currently in. That then becomes the default font size
for this character format from that point on. 
 
How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the
font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
missing?
 
Chuck

Chuck Beck | Sr. Information Developer | Infor Global Solutions, Inc. |
Office: 614-523-7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
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Character formatting problem

[Joe Malin]

You're not missing anything. The FM interface is quite confusing for
this task.

I do character tags with the following steps:
1. Open the Character Designer (I use CTRL+D)
2. In the document, click to clear any selections. To verify you've done
it correctly, the
   *Character Tag* text box in the Designer should be blank.
3. Select *Commands > New Format*.
4. Enter a name for the new tag. In your case, it would be "Subscript".
5. Set *Store in Catalog*, but _clear_ *Apply to Selection*.
6. Click *Create*. _Notice that the *Character Tag* text box is still
blank._
7. With the insertion point still outside a selection, select
*Subscript* from the Designer
   dropdown box.
8. Set or clear the options you want. For a plain subscript, set
everything to *As Is*, and set
   the *Spread* and *Stretch* fields to blank. Also clear all the
options at the right of the
   Designer.
9. Set the checkbox next to *Superscript/Subscript*, then select
*Subscript* from the dropdown
   box.
10.Click *Update All*.

Test this. You should see a subscript. 

_Notice that the Character Designer shows you all the other settings
that previously applied to 
your selection_. That is, Character Designer does *not* switch to *As
Is* when you make a
selection. Instead, it shows the _current state_.

That's the confusing part of the UI. FM dialogs work that way. FM didn't
start out as a Windows app, so its UI does not show a Microsoft
influence. You may find it confusing; when I was first starting, I sure
did! In fairness to both Adobe and FM, it is confusing because it is not
what we expect.



 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Beck
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:48 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Character formatting problem

Fellow Framers,

I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This
format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same
(relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default
paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the "As
Is" option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it ("As Is")
and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for
the paragraph I am currently in. That then becomes the default font size
for this character format from that point on. 

How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the
font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I
missing?

Chuck

Chuck Beck | Sr. Information Developer | Infor Global Solutions, Inc. |
Office: 614-523-7302 | Charles.Beck at infor.com 


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RE: how to enlarge conditional text window

[Joe Malin]

I noted previously that most FM dialogs have both static and dynamic
controls. If you resize the dialog box and move around the static
controls, you risk damaging the dynamic behavior.

Developers define static controls in resource files which get compiled
into executables or DLLs. Developers generate dynamic controls as the
program is running, by issuing Windows API calls. If you modify the
static controls or the dialog box containing them, you may end up
putting a static control at the same place a dynamic control is supposed
to appear.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: how to enlarge conditional text window

Rick and Melissa:

 You can use a resource editor such as ResHacker or PE Module Explorer 
(http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/d10resourceeditor.htm).

Make a backup copy of fmdlg.dll before you start hacking (but you knew 
this anyway, right?).  I tried to do this just a week ago with FM 7.2
but 
FM complained when booting, then died.  I don't know if the fmdlg.dll
file 
has somehow changed.  Mind you, I changed the relative positions of some

of the buttons, etc. as well as generally enlarging the dialogue, so 
perhaps that was it.  Has anybody successfully hacked FM 7.2 dialogues?

s and info.
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how to enlarge conditional text window

[Joe Malin]

I noted previously that most FM dialogs have both static and dynamic
controls. If you resize the dialog box and move around the static
controls, you risk damaging the dynamic behavior.

Developers define static controls in "resource files" which get compiled
into executables or DLLs. Developers generate dynamic controls as the
program is running, by issuing Windows API calls. If you modify the
static controls or the dialog box containing them, you may end up
putting a static control at the same place a dynamic control is supposed
to appear.

     Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of hedley.finger at myob.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:49 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: how to enlarge conditional text window

Rick and Melissa:

> You can use a resource editor such as ResHacker or PE Module Explorer 
>(http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/d10resourceeditor.htm).

Make a backup copy of fmdlg.dll before you start hacking (but you knew 
this anyway, right?).  I tried to do this just a week ago with FM 7.2
but 
FM complained when booting, then died.  I don't know if the fmdlg.dll
file 
has somehow changed.  Mind you, I changed the relative positions of some

of the buttons, etc. as well as generally enlarging the dialogue, so 
perhaps that was it.  Has anybody successfully hacked FM 7.2 dialogues?

s and info.

RE: Using the same chapters for several books

[Joe Malin]

The way I do this is:

* distinguish books by part number
* one book file per part number
* unique title.fm for each book
* store all variables, conditional text settings, and colors in title.fm
* use variables for book-level changes, like titles in the footer, etc.
* use conditional text for parts of a shared chapter that should or
should not appear.
* use color settings with conditional text for editing purposes

With this method, I do have to re-apply variables and conditional text
settings every time I re-generate a book, but to me this is a minor
task.

Hijack: I have a book that excludes some chapters if it goes out to
customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to
re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal
version. Does anyone have a better way?

Joe

Joe Malin
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www.tuvox.com
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Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Using the same chapters for several books

Could anyone give me a brief overview of how to use the same chapters 
for several books, or the right terminology to find this in the online
help?

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

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RE: One more question about sharing FM files

[Joe Malin]

I prefer variables. That way I can show all conditional text and not get
a mess!

Of course, I use a variable for the book name even when it's *not*
conditional. We are ever-changing here, and I'd go nuts if I depending
on terminology from one day to the next :). I use the Bookvars tool to
manage my variables.

Joe Malin
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Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:54 AM
To: Framers
Subject: One more question about sharing FM files

In the footer, is it better to use a variable for the book name or 
hidden conditional text.
Conditional text seems better in the sense that there probably are other

things in the chapter that are conditional, but I've heard there is a 
limitation on the amount of conditional text types you can have.

What do most people do for this?

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

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RE: Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

[Joe Malin]

Yes, in fact I do this all the time with Tip/Note/Warning text that I
put in a table.

If you want, I can send you an unstructured FM 7.1 file with the
paragraph, character, and table formats I use.

Joe

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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:10 AM
To: framers@frameusers.com
Subject: Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

Hi Framers

I am caught with a strange problem. I need to define a table with single
row
and two columns. The left column has to contain graphic and the right
column
contains Text. I know that we can do this manually by selecting formats
from
the fomat selection drop-down. But is there a way to assign both the
columns
different formats. So that when ever that table format is selected; both
the
columns automatically reflect the assigned table format.

Please let me know of the possibility with any of structured ot
unstructured
framemaker.

Thanks a lot
Surbhi
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RE: Using the same chapters for several books

[Joe Malin]

I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering
properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the
numbering properties at the book level.



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Charles Beck
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 12:01 PM
To: Framers
Subject: RE: Using the same chapters for several books

Joe Malin wrote:

Hijack: I have a book that excludes some chapters if it goes out
to customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to
re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal
version. Does anyone have a better way?

Joe

Are you using a single book for both outputs? If so, why not just set up
two separate books, each with its own numbering rules?

Chuck
 



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Using the same chapters for several books

[Joe Malin]

The way I do this is:

* distinguish books by part number
* one book file per part number
* unique title.fm for each book
* store all variables, conditional text settings, and colors in title.fm
* use variables for book-level changes, like titles in the footer, etc.
* use conditional text for parts of a "shared" chapter that should or
should not appear.
* use color settings with conditional text for editing purposes

With this method, I do have to re-apply variables and conditional text
settings every time I re-generate a book, but to me this is a minor
task.

Hijack: I have a book that excludes some chapters if it goes out to
customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to
re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal
version. Does anyone have a better way?

Joe

Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:36 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Using the same chapters for several books

Could anyone give me a brief overview of how to use the same chapters 
for several books, or the right terminology to find this in the online
help?

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

One more question about sharing FM files

[Joe Malin]

I prefer variables. That way I can show all conditional text and not get
a mess!

Of course, I use a variable for the book name even when it's *not*
conditional. We are ever-changing here, and I'd go nuts if I depending
on terminology from one day to the next :). I use the Bookvars tool to
manage my variables.

Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:54 AM
To: Framers
Subject: One more question about sharing FM files

In the footer, is it better to use a variable for the book name or 
hidden conditional text.
Conditional text seems better in the sense that there probably are other

things in the chapter that are conditional, but I've heard there is a 
limitation on the amount of conditional text types you can have.

What do most people do for this?

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

[Joe Malin]

Yes, in fact I do this all the time with Tip/Note/Warning text that I
put in a table.

If you want, I can send you an unstructured FM 7.1 file with the
paragraph, character, and table formats I use.

Joe

Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Surbhi Singhal
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:10 AM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Urgent: Table Row with different Table Cell formats

Hi Framers

I am caught with a strange problem. I need to define a table with single
row
and two columns. The left column has to contain graphic and the right
column
contains Text. I know that we can do this manually by selecting formats
from
the fomat selection drop-down. But is there a way to assign both the
columns
different formats. So that when ever that table format is selected; both
the
columns automatically reflect the assigned table format.

Please let me know of the possibility with any of structured ot
unstructured
framemaker.

Thanks a lot
Surbhi

Using the same chapters for several books

[Joe Malin]

I have two separate books, but they share chapters. The numbering
properties seem to persist for a chapter file, even if I set the
numbering properties at the book level.



 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Beck
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 12:01 PM
To: Framers
Subject: RE: Using the same chapters for several books

Joe Malin wrote:

Hijack: I have a book that excludes some chapters if it goes out
to customers (external version). The drawback to this is that I have to
re-set some chapter numbering settings when I re-generate the internal
version. Does anyone have a better way?

Joe

Are you using a single book for both outputs? If so, why not just set up
two separate books, each with its own numbering rules?

Chuck

RE: Newbie here with a TOC issue in Frame

[Joe Malin]

Hi Ealasaid!

Have you tried deleting the TOC and re-generating it?

If you need additional help off-list, write me an e-mail directly.

Joe Malin
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Subject: Newbie here with a TOC issue in Frame

Hi, everybody!

Just joined the list at my Dad's suggestion (Dad = Guy Haas). I have 
been beating my head against a FrameMaker issue for several days with no

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Newbie here with a TOC issue in Frame

[Joe Malin]

Hi Ealasaid!

Have you tried deleting the TOC and re-generating it?

If you need additional help off-list, write me an e-mail directly.

Joe Malin
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Of Ealasaid A. Haas
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:40 AM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Newbie here with a TOC issue in Frame

Hi, everybody!

Just joined the list at my Dad's suggestion (Dad = Guy Haas). I have 
been beating my head against a FrameMaker issue for several days with no

success.

tiny marker window (WAS: SOLVED Index Problems)

[Joe Malin]

This is a decent idea, but it has pitfalls.

I could explain the reasons why, but they are very technical.

You will find, though, that if you're not careful when you modify the
dialog box with ResHacker, you'll lose some of the UI. ResHacker assumes
that the UI is static, so that the dialog box displays only what you see
in the DLL. However, dialog boxes can contain controls that are set up
as the program runs. You could re-size the dialog box or controls in
ResHacker and then find that you've unintentionally hidden another part
of the UI that you didn't see.

I discovered this the hard way, and therefore gave up on ResHacker.

If you just change fonts, you should be OK; just don't change the size
of anything.

I have no idea why FM engineers haven't changed the index marker dialog
or the font size. I think it has to be no more than a 10-minute job.

Joe

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[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:30 PM
To: Murray Moore
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: tiny marker window (WAS: SOLVED Index Problems)

Murray Moore wrote:

> To make these entries easier for me to read and edit in the tiny
> index marker window

I too strongly encourage you to get IXGen or another indexing tool. But 
if that is not possible, you can save your eyesight by getting hold of 
ResHacker.exe at http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/
and using it to modify the characteristics of the marker dialog boxes.
The file you want to modify (after backing it up!!) is fmdlg.dll in your

installation\fminit folder. Look for EDIT_MARKERS and INS_MARKER and 
change the font size to something comfortable (I use 10 instead of the 
default 8). If you have Show Dialog selected, it's easy to drag the 
borders of the dialog box and its various components to a larger size as

well.

RE: Edward Tufte Fans: Sparklines

[Joe Malin]

Many years ago I worked as a software engineer for HP, doing business
graphics systems. That was when I first read the marvelous Mr. ET. 

On the one hand, his ideas are a revelation. On the other hand, once you
learn his stuff, you'll be unable to sti still in the typical business
meeting; you'll either be groaning or snickering.

I have not had a situation in which I could use sparklines, but I think
they're a great idea.



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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:58 PM
To: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Edward Tufte Fans: Sparklines

Do you try to use Edward Tufte's ideas?

Implemented sparklines?

Please do tell. :)

Best regards,
Whitney

Whitney C. Broach
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Edward Tufte Fans: Sparklines

[Joe Malin]

Many years ago I worked as a software engineer for HP, doing business
graphics systems. That was when I first read the marvelous Mr. ET. 

On the one hand, his ideas are a revelation. On the other hand, once you
learn his stuff, you'll be unable to sti still in the typical business
meeting; you'll either be groaning or snickering.

I have not had a situation in which I could use sparklines, but I think
they're a great idea.



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Technical Writer
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jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Whitney Broach
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:58 PM
To: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Edward Tufte Fans: Sparklines

Do you try to use Edward Tufte's ideas?

Implemented sparklines?

Please do tell. :)

Best regards,
Whitney

Whitney C. Broach
Broach Services, Inc.


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RE: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table ofContentsInclude Paragraphs Tagged

[Joe Malin]

You have to move the styles manually, even if the template TOC file had
styles set up from before. My guess is that FM clears out the old
information as a feature; it only allows you to add paragraph tags
that are in your existing files, so it must first clear out everything
that was there from before. 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:14 PM
To: Karen L. Zorn; 'List, Framers'
Subject: RE: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table
ofContentsInclude Paragraphs Tagged

Karen...no, it doesn't. 

1) I have a book, named Test, with three files:
   TestFile1
   TestFile2
   TestFile3

   No TOC yet

2) In the book, I select Add - Table of Contents. I do 
   not move any styles, just click the Add button.
 
   It creates TestTOC.fm

3) I open an existing TOC, we'll call it mpls_install_guideTOC.fm
4) I save it as c:\temp\TestTOC.fm and say its OK to overwrite
5) Return back to test.book, select Edit - Update Book
6) Click all option except Apply Master Page, the testTOC is in
generate, and click Update.
7) Highlight the file testTOC.fm, right click and select Set Up table of
Contents

No styleas are in the left side pane.

Why not?

--- Karen L. Zorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you have a previous TOC version that you like:
 
 1. Generate new TOC. Save the file and close.
 2. Open old TOC. Save As new TOC file name.
 3. Regenerate TOC.
 
 Karen L. Zorn
 Zorn Technologies, Inc.
 Mesa, AZ
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf
 Of John Posada
 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:45 PM
 To: List, Framers
 Subject: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of 
 ContentsInclude Paragraphs Tagged
 
 
 Hi, guys...sorry for the long subject line, but..
 
 OK...follow along..I have a book with 5 new files. They've had their 
 styles imported from a template file or previous product file.
 
 When I generate a new TOC in the book, I get the Set Up Table of 
 Contents dialog, and all the styles appear in the Don't Include pane 
 on the right.
 What I'm trying to do is get the xxTOC styles to appear on the left 
 pane (Include Paragraphs tagged) without having to move them over 
 individualy.
 
 How can I do this?


John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never
actually known what the question is.
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How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"

[Joe Malin]

Why do you want TOC styles? This isn't clear. The TOC styles are
automatically created by FM in the TOC file itself; you use them to
format paragraphs in the TOC. You *don't* use them to include paragraph
tags from other files.

Basically, it goes like this:
1. You create a TOC using Setup Table of Contents, and include all the
regular paragraph tags from the individual files
   that you want represented in the TOC. So if you have ChapterTitle,
H1, H2, and H3 as paragraph tags for the chapter
   title and heading 1-3, you'd include those in the left-hand column.
2. When you generate the TOC, FM automatically adds these paragraph tags
to the TOC file:
   ChapterTitleTOC
   H1TOC
   H2TOC
   H3TOC
3. FM also adds a reference page to the TOC file called "TOC". On this
page, it adds 4 lines that start out looking
   something like
   <$pagenum>
   If you click in a line, you'll see that it has one of the paragraph
tags listed in the preceding step 2. 
   The line works like an autonumber format, and governs how an entry
will appear in the TOC. For example, if you put
   in the following line

   )<$paranum>)<$paratext>)  <$pagenum>

   (the parentheses stand for tab marks)

   and then tag it with the paragraph tag "ChapterTItleTOC", then in
your TOC, the chapter title entries will start
   tabbed in from the starting point, and will consist of the chapter
number, the title, two spaces, and then the
   page number in bold.
4. FM maintains the association between an ordinary paragraph tag in
your files and its TOC entry by having the TOC
   entry's paragraph tag be TOC. You can't change this. If
you change ChapterTitleTOC to UghTOC and then
   delete ChapterTitleTOC, FM will just automatically create another
one.

As you can see, it makes no sense to have paragraph tags ending in "TOC"
in the Setup Table of Contents dialog box.

By the way, FM has a somewhat hidden shortcut for moving all the entries
from one column to another (Oracle calls this type of control a
"shuttle", and you "shuttle" an entry between columns using the shuttle
buttons.) Hold down the shift key, and then click the arrow key. This
will move *everything*. The best place to use this is in the Generate
Acrobat Data dialog box, to clear out the paragraph tags FM puts into
your PDF before you add what you want.


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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of John Posada
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:45 PM
To: List, Framers
Subject: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of
Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"

Hi, guys...sorry for the long subject line, but..

OK...follow along..I have a book with 5 new files. They've had their
styles imported from a template file or previous product file.

When I generate a new TOC in the book, I get the Set Up Table of
Contents dialog, and all the styles appear in the Don't Include pane on
the right. What I'm trying to do is get the xxTOC styles to appear on
the left pane (Include Paragraphs tagged) without having to move them
over individualy.

How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table ofContents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"

[Joe Malin]

You have to move the styles manually, even if the template TOC file had
styles set up from before. My guess is that FM clears out the old
information as a "feature"; it only allows you to add paragraph tags
that are in your existing files, so it must first clear out everything
that was there from before. 


     Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of John Posada
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:14 PM
To: Karen L. Zorn; 'List, Framers'
Subject: RE: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table
ofContents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"

Karen...no, it doesn't. 

1) I have a book, named Test, with three files:
   TestFile1
   TestFile2
   TestFile3

   No TOC yet

2) In the book, I select Add -> Table of Contents. I do 
   not move any styles, just click the Add button.

   It creates TestTOC.fm

3) I open an existing TOC, we'll call it mpls_install_guideTOC.fm
4) I save it as c:\temp\TestTOC.fm and say its OK to overwrite
5) Return back to test.book, select Edit -> Update Book
6) Click all option except Apply Master Page, the testTOC is in
generate, and click Update.
7) Highlight the file testTOC.fm, right click and select Set Up table of
Contents

No styleas are in the left side pane.

Why not?

--- "Karen L. Zorn"  wrote:

> If you have a previous TOC version that you like:
> 
> 1. Generate new TOC. Save the file and close.
> 2. Open old TOC. Save As new TOC file name.
> 3. Regenerate TOC.
> 
> Karen L. Zorn
> Zorn Technologies, Inc.
> Mesa, AZ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf
> Of John Posada
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:45 PM
> To: List, Framers
> Subject: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of 
> Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"
> 
> 
> Hi, guys...sorry for the long subject line, but..
> 
> OK...follow along..I have a book with 5 new files. They've had their 
> styles imported from a template file or previous product file.
> 
> When I generate a new TOC in the book, I get the Set Up Table of 
> Contents dialog, and all the styles appear in the Don't Include pane 
> on the right.
> What I'm trying to do is get the xxTOC styles to appear on the left 
> pane (Include Paragraphs tagged) without having to move them over 
> individualy.
> 
> How can I do this?


John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never
actually known what the question is."
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RE: Looking for a technique for applying conditionals

[Joe Malin]

This is rather off-topic:

You're not working for Oracle by any chance, are you?

At Oracle I had to deal with all four OSes: Win32, Solaris, Linux, and
HP-UX. I didn't bother with conditionals, though. We had one manual to
cover everything, and put all four in the same manual. I also discovered
that the three variations of UN*X had enough differences between them
that conditionals within a paragraph or even section wouldn't have been
that useful.

Just a note. Also, this meant that the technical marketing team decided
to list each OS separately instead of just saying UN*X. This may not
be what Linux or HP-UX people want to hear, but I think it's a useful
distinction.


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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:06 PM
To: Combs, Richard; List, Framers
Subject: RE: Looking for a technique for applying conditionals

 My advice: Use three conditions, Win, Unix, and Both, and three 
 _complete_ paragraphs, one for each condition. Applying conditions to 
 a word here and there is just asking for trouble -- extra spaces or 
 spaces missing, etc.

The problem with this part is that we have some applications that run on
Solaris and Linux only, some that run on Solaris and HP-UX only, some
that run only on Solaris...you get the idea.

However, I do agree about the problms with conditionalizing at the word
level...just hoping that someone will come out with an ah HAH!
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Looking for a technique for applying conditionals

[Joe Malin]

This is rather off-topic:

You're not working for Oracle by any chance, are you?

At Oracle I had to deal with all four OSes: Win32, Solaris, Linux, and
HP-UX. I didn't bother with conditionals, though. We had one manual to
cover everything, and put all four in the same manual. I also discovered
that the three variations of UN*X had enough differences between them
that conditionals within a paragraph or even section wouldn't have been
that useful.

Just a note. Also, this meant that the technical marketing team decided
to list each OS separately instead of just saying "UN*X". This may not
be what Linux or HP-UX people want to hear, but I think it's a useful
distinction.


     Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of John Posada
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:06 PM
To: Combs, Richard; List, Framers
Subject: RE: Looking for a technique for applying conditionals

> My advice: Use three conditions, Win, Unix, and Both, and three 
> _complete_ paragraphs, one for each condition. Applying conditions to 
> a word here and there is just asking for trouble -- extra spaces or 
> spaces missing, etc.

The problem with this part is that we have some applications that run on
Solaris and Linux only, some that run on Solaris and HP-UX only, some
that run only on Solaris...you get the idea.

However, I do agree about the problms with conditionalizing at the word
level...just hoping that someone will come out with an "ah HAH!"
technique. 

RE: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0

[Joe Malin]

Dunno, but I have been using the Adobe PDF driver + write to file +
distilling for nearly five years now without any problems on both
unstructured and structured FM versions 6.0 - 7.1. I haven't yet run
into a need for save as PDF.

Joe Malin
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Subject: RE: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0

Hi,

Are there any advantages/disadvantages to using the SAVE AS PDF function
over printing to a postscript file and then distilling?

Thanks, Paul 

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Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0

[Joe Malin]

Dunno, but I have been using the Adobe PDF driver + write to file +
distilling for nearly five years now without any problems on both
unstructured and structured FM versions 6.0 - 7.1. I haven't yet run
into a need for "save as PDF".

Joe Malin
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jmalin at tuvox.com 
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Of Paul Grigg
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:06 AM
To: framers at omsys.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Using SAVE AS PDF in FrameMaker 6.0

Hi,

Are there any advantages/disadvantages to using the SAVE AS PDF function
over printing to a postscript file and then distilling?

Thanks, Paul 

RE: DocBook

[Joe Malin]

Right, I know about that. I'm not willing to go down the route towards
DITA until I understand more about structured FM and Docbook, though.
DocBook fits more closely with what I have.

Joe 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:42 AM
To: Joe Malin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: DocBook

If you can hold off a couple of weeks Adobe will be releasing a Frame
DITA application of their own.

It'll be in beta form in a couple of weeks.

This might give the both the opportunity to work within structured
FrameMaker AND to evaluate how DITA could fit into your workflow.

Regards

Mark Poston
Mekon Ltd
Skype: mark_mekon.com

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Behalf Of Joe Malin
Sent: 12 July 2006 21:13
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Subject: DocBook

Well, once again I have neutrino-sized particles of bandwidth with which
to investigate structured Frame.

I have chosen to start with DocBook rather than DITA, just because I've
worked in structured Frame with a DTD that was based on full DocBook.

Question is, which version of DocBook should I use in order to get the
most leverage from the resources included in Frame 7.1 (note the
version)?

Any advice? And yes, I *know* that DITA is the way to go. I'm not even
committing to do structured Frame in production; I just want to
experiment.

I have already written some production docs in unstructured FM 7.1,
sticking like glue to my own standardized templates for *everything*
(including equations!). My initial thought is to convert these
unstructured docs to structured by crafting an EDD based on the
unstructured templates.

 

Joe

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RE: Remove a paragraph format from a book

[Joe Malin]

Is it a paragraph tag in the catalog, or just a starred one?

Paragraph Tools from Silicon Prairie handles various paragraph tag
management tools for a single document, but not for a whole book.

FrameScript could probably do this.

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Subject: Remove a paragraph format from a book

At the book level, is there a single command or script to remove a
paragraph format from all of the documents in the book?

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RE: Remove a paragraph format from a book

[Joe Malin]

I stand corrected. I will go look at the documentation (what a
concept!). I bought the dang tools and yet I don't know all their
features! I have to say that they are great tools, well worth the price.

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Subject: RE: Remove a paragraph format from a book

A correction

Paragraph Tools has always happily handled paragraph tag management for
both individual files and for books. In fact, the last update added an
additional routines to better list how paragraph tags are used for an
entire book.

You can get the latest version here:
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com

Steve
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management tools for a single document, but not for a whole book.

FrameScript could probably do this.

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DocBook

[Joe Malin]

Right, I know about that. I'm not willing to go down the route towards
DITA until I understand more about structured FM and Docbook, though.
DocBook fits more closely with what I have.

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-Original Message-
From: mark.poston at mekon.com [mailto:mark.pos...@mekon.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:42 AM
To: Joe Malin; techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: DocBook

If you can hold off a couple of weeks Adobe will be releasing a Frame
DITA application of their own.

It'll be in beta form in a couple of weeks.

This might give the both the opportunity to work within structured
FrameMaker AND to evaluate how DITA could fit into your workflow.

Regards

Mark Poston
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Behalf Of Joe Malin
Sent: 12 July 2006 21:13
To: techwr-l at lists.techwr-l.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: DocBook

Well, once again I have neutrino-sized particles of bandwidth with which
to investigate structured Frame.

I have chosen to start with DocBook rather than DITA, just because I've
worked in structured Frame with a DTD that was based on full DocBook.

Question is, which version of DocBook should I use in order to get the
most leverage from the resources included in Frame 7.1 (note the
version)?

Any advice? And yes, I *know* that DITA is the "way to go". I'm not even
committing to do structured Frame in production; I just want to
experiment.

I have already written some production docs in unstructured FM 7.1,
sticking like glue to my own standardized templates for *everything*
(including equations!). My initial thought is to convert these
unstructured docs to structured by crafting an EDD based on the
unstructured templates.



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Remove a paragraph format from a book

[Joe Malin]

I stand corrected. I will go look at the documentation (what a
concept!). I bought the dang tools and yet I don't know all their
features! I have to say that they are great tools, well worth the price.

Joe 


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-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of steve at siliconprairiesoftware.com
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:03 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Remove a paragraph format from a book

A correction

Paragraph Tools has always happily handled paragraph tag management for
both individual files and for books. In fact, the last update added an
additional routines to better list how paragraph tags are used for an
entire book.

You can get the latest version here:
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com

Steve
steve at siliconprairiesoftware.com



>Paragraph Tools from Silicon Prairie handles various paragraph tag 
>management tools for a single document, but not for a whole book.
>
>FrameScript could probably do this.
>
>Joe



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DocBook

[Joe Malin]

Well, once again I have neutrino-sized particles of bandwidth with which
to investigate structured Frame.

I have chosen to start with DocBook rather than DITA, just because I've
worked in structured Frame with a DTD that was based on full DocBook.

Question is, which version of DocBook should I use in order to get the
most leverage from the resources included in Frame 7.1 (note the
version)?

Any advice? And yes, I *know* that DITA is the way to go. I'm not even
committing to do structured Frame in production; I just want to
experiment.

I have already written some production docs in unstructured FM 7.1,
sticking like glue to my own standardized templates for *everything*
(including equations!). My initial thought is to convert these
unstructured docs to structured by crafting an EDD based on the
unstructured templates.

 

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DocBook

[Joe Malin]

Well, once again I have neutrino-sized particles of bandwidth with which
to investigate structured Frame.

I have chosen to start with DocBook rather than DITA, just because I've
worked in structured Frame with a DTD that was based on full DocBook.

Question is, which version of DocBook should I use in order to get the
most leverage from the resources included in Frame 7.1 (note the
version)?

Any advice? And yes, I *know* that DITA is the "way to go". I'm not even
committing to do structured Frame in production; I just want to
experiment.

I have already written some production docs in unstructured FM 7.1,
sticking like glue to my own standardized templates for *everything*
(including equations!). My initial thought is to convert these
unstructured docs to structured by crafting an EDD based on the
unstructured templates.



Joe

RE: Displaying a directory

[Joe Malin]

Both Frame and Word use the new Explorer-style dialog box routines. Word
seems to be using a custom template that adds some controls; it's hard
to tell. I venture to guess that newer versions of Word use MFC, but I
don't know what FM 7.x uses. In any event, the Windows OS routines for
File  Open dialog boxes are so customizable that two programs could use
the same library code and yet display two very different dialogs.

FM apparently does not have any tweaks for changing the file display
default; on the other hand, it does pick up the global Common Dialogs
Places bar customization you can make with Tweak UI. Word 2003 seems to
stick to the Office 2003 standard instead.

If none of this makes any sense to you, then the bottom line is that you
can't do it.

Joe


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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:41 PM
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Subject: Displaying a directory

When I click File  Import  File, Frame displays the directory using
List mode.  I would prefer it default to Details mode.  Word doesn't
display anything in List mode when I click File  Open, so I'm fairly
sure this isn't an operating system (XP) issue.  Is there some tweak I
can make, perhaps in the Maker.ini, to make Frame default to displaying
in Details mode?

Thanks,

Doug
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Displaying a directory

[Joe Malin]

Both Frame and Word use the new Explorer-style dialog box routines. Word
seems to be using a custom template that adds some controls; it's hard
to tell. I venture to guess that newer versions of Word use MFC, but I
don't know what FM 7.x uses. In any event, the Windows OS routines for
File > Open dialog boxes are so customizable that two programs could use
the same library code and yet display two very different dialogs.

FM apparently does not have any tweaks for changing the file display
default; on the other hand, it does pick up the global Common Dialogs
Places bar customization you can make with Tweak UI. Word 2003 seems to
stick to the Office 2003 standard instead.

If none of this makes any sense to you, then the bottom line is that you
can't do it.

Joe


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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:41 PM
To: Framers List; techcomm at user.itconsult.co.uk
Subject: Displaying a directory

When I click File > Import > File, Frame displays the directory using
List mode.  I would prefer it default to Details mode.  Word doesn't
display anything in List mode when I click File > Open, so I'm fairly
sure this isn't an operating system (XP) issue.  Is there some tweak I
can make, perhaps in the Maker.ini, to make Frame default to displaying
in Details mode?

Thanks,

Doug
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RE: Syntax for if/then statement

[Joe Malin]

Hmmm. Doesn't make much sense to me.

In a *sentence* if a, then b, the word then isn't required. It's
really an emphasis attached to b. 

For example, you could say If you are using Windows, follow these
instructions: and omit the then. The word that really joins the two
phrases is if, which is a conjunction; if appears first because
you've reserved the phrase order. That is, by the way, the real reason
you need the comma.

To say If you are using Windows, and then follow these instructions is
grammatically incorrect. You have have *both* a *subordinate*
conjunction (if) and a *coordinate* conjunction (and) connecting the
same two phrases!


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Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

All,

I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information
for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used
the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If blah,
blah, then blah, blah. We have a new editor that just joined who is
in the process of defining our styles and standards. Obviously, everyone
has an opinion about what is right and what is wrong in editing . .
.in many cases,  it's so subjective. That said, when we have our
editorial meetings about defining our styles and standards, you need to
be prepared with some factual support for a certain type of style or
standard - not just the emotional because we've always done it this
way. Years ago, I had such a reference for writing if/then statements
this way - I don't remember which manual I referenced. Our new editor
wants to add the word and to such statements - if blah, blah, AND
then blah, blah. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor
on this one - it should be just if/then - no and. I have tried for the
life of me to find a documentation reference that would support this
syntax (something like Sun's Read Me First guide, etc), and although I
know I had one in the past, I can't find it now. Googling only leads me
to programming references - the thin thread here would be since we are
writing software documentation, if/then, would make sense, since that's
where the  if/then statement syntax was developed, but. . . . 

Any and all references/advice would be much appreciated.

TIA,

TVB 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
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Syntax for if/then statement

[Joe Malin]

Hmmm. Doesn't make much sense to me.

In a *sentence* "if , then ", the word "then" isn't required. It's
really an emphasis attached to . 

For example, you could say "If you are using Windows, follow these
instructions:" and omit the "then". The word that really joins the two
phrases is "if", which is a conjunction; "if" appears first because
you've reserved the phrase order. That is, by the way, the real reason
you need the comma.

To say "If you are using Windows, and then follow these instructions" is
grammatically incorrect. You have have *both* a *subordinate*
conjunction (if) and a *coordinate* conjunction (and) connecting the
same two phrases!


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[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:22 AM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Syntax for if/then statement

All,

I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information
for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used
the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If <blah,
blah>, then <blah, blah>. We have a new editor that just joined who is
in the process of defining our styles and standards. Obviously, everyone
has an opinion about what is "right" and what is "wrong" in editing . .
.in many cases,  it's so subjective. That said, when we have our
editorial meetings about defining our styles and standards, you need to
be prepared with some factual support for a certain type of style or
standard - not just the emotional "because we've always done it this
way." Years ago, I had such a reference for writing if/then statements
this way - I don't remember which manual I referenced. Our new editor
wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if <blah, blah>, AND
then <blah, blah>. Both I and the other writer disagree with the editor
on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and." I have tried for the
life of me to find a documentation reference that would support this
syntax (something like Sun's Read Me First guide, etc), and although I
know I had one in the past, I can't find it now. Googling only leads me
to programming references - the thin thread here would be since we are
writing software documentation, if/then, would make sense, since that's
where the  if/then statement syntax was developed, but. . . . 

Any and all references/advice would be much appreciated.

TIA,

TVB 

Tammy Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc.
303-328-4420
tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
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RE: Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Yeah, but I haven't saved up enough yet to buy FrameScript. We'll see
how things go this week; I may be able to get my company to buy it. 


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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:03 AM
To: Joe Malin; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Hi Joe,

If you have FrameScript 4.0R2 and MSXML 4, you can easily extract a
single element from an XML file. You could also avoid the XML step
entirely with FrameScript.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

I am using Frame.

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Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Yeah, but I haven't saved up enough yet to buy FrameScript. We'll see
how things go this week; I may be able to get my company to buy it. 


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Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:03 AM
To: Joe Malin; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Hi Joe,

If you have FrameScript 4.0R2 and MSXML 4, you can easily extract a
single element from an XML file. You could also avoid the XML step
entirely with FrameScript.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com

I am using Frame.

RE: Localization and switch to A4 paper

[Joe Malin]

Some really good answers from others here. I agree with you, though,
that making a separate set of templates for A4 would be a major time
commitment. It would also lead to all sorts of management problems.
Trust me on this, I *know*.

Joe


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Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:13 PM
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Subject: Localization and switch to A4 paper

Hi all,
My group is in the process of figuring out what is involved in
translating our docs into other languages. We have a translation vendor
and are well on our way to starting our first prototypes. Our first
issue is that we want to have some of the versions on A4 PDF/paper size,
but we have no idea what is involved. Our FM templates are set up for
8.5x11. We are wondering if we need to make a duplicate set of FM
templates--and we *really* don't want to do that.
Anyone done this before?
Apologies if this has been answered previously. I looked through the
archive, but didn't find anything.
Thanks much for any advice!
--
Melanie Raney
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Earth Decision Sciences
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Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Hi!
 
Scattered through my current book I have important terms that I'd like
to collect into a glossary. These terms are marked with a special
character tag that only they use. Does anyone out there have a great
idea for a tool or process (or both) that would help me collect the
terms? I don't really need their *definitions*, just the words
themselves.
 
Joe
 

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RE: Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

I am using Frame.

I discovered a neat feature of FM 7.1 that helps a lot.

You can save a .FM file as XML, *even if it's unstructured*. It will use
your paragraph and character tag names as elements, so if you're looking
for all strings that you've marked with the character tag Term, you
just need to search for Termblah/Term.

Very handy!

I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like sed) that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.

Joe


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-Original Message-
From: Dick Margulis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:55 PM
To: Joe Malin
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Find and replace?

I don't know whether you're in Word, Frame, or something else, but the
logic is the same in any case.

1. Make a copy of the document (you're about to trash it, so this is
strictly a scratch copy).

2. Search for everything that is NOT tagged with your special tag and
replace it with a single space character. If you check the wildcards
option in Word, you can search for NOT-something.

3. Search for a two spaces and replace with one space (or, if you have
large quantities of white space left after step 2, search for ten spaces
and replace with one space, then nine, then eight, ... then two).

4. When you're down to just your glossary words and single spaces
between them, replace the spaces with hard returns and you're done.



Joe Malin wrote:
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Localization and switch to A4 paper

[Joe Malin]

Some really good answers from others here. I agree with you, though,
that making a separate set of templates for A4 would be a major time
commitment. It would also lead to all sorts of management problems.
Trust me on this, I *know*.

Joe


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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Melanie Raney
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:13 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Localization and switch to A4 paper

Hi all,
My group is in the process of figuring out what is involved in
translating our docs into other languages. We have a translation vendor
and are well on our way to starting our first prototypes. Our first
issue is that we want to have some of the versions on A4 PDF/paper size,
but we have no idea what is involved. Our FM templates are set up for
8.5x11. We are wondering if we need to make a duplicate set of FM
templates--and we *really* don't want to do that.
Anyone done this before?
Apologies if this has been answered previously. I looked through the
archive, but didn't find anything.
Thanks much for any advice!
--
Melanie Raney
Senior Information Developer
Earth Decision Sciences
phone | 713 787 0746 x113
email | raney at earthdecision.com
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Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

Scattered through my current book I have important terms that I'd like
to collect into a glossary. These terms are marked with a special
character tag that only they use. Does anyone out there have a great
idea for a tool or process (or both) that would help me collect the
terms? I don't really need their *definitions*, just the words
themselves.

Joe


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Glossary tools

[Joe Malin]

I am using Frame.

I discovered a neat feature of FM 7.1 that helps a lot.

You can save a .FM file as XML, *even if it's unstructured*. It will use
your paragraph and character tag names as elements, so if you're looking
for all strings that you've marked with the character tag "Term", you
just need to search for blah.

Very handy!

I have to caution you that since it's XML, it is *not* line-oriented.
You can't use a typical search and replace tool (like "sed") that is
line-oriented. Fortunately, I know how to handle this.

Joe


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-Original Message-
From: Dick Margulis [mailto:margul...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:55 PM
To: Joe Malin
Subject: Re: Glossary tools

Find and replace?

I don't know whether you're in Word, Frame, or something else, but the
logic is the same in any case.

1. Make a copy of the document (you're about to trash it, so this is
strictly a scratch copy).

2. Search for everything that is NOT tagged with your special tag and
replace it with a single space character. If you check the wildcards
option in Word, you can search for NOT-something.

3. Search for a two spaces and replace with one space (or, if you have
large quantities of white space left after step 2, search for ten spaces
and replace with one space, then nine, then eight, ... then two).

4. When you're down to just your glossary words and single spaces
between them, replace the spaces with hard returns and you're done.



Joe Malin wrote:

"3D" biomolecule drawing tools

[Joe Malin]

Hi!

Sorry for the spam-like post, but I can't remember who posted the
original question...

Someone asked about tools for drawing pictures of biomolecules like
proteins.

My mom responds that she knows a variety of tools, but they aren't
readily usable by non-scientists. She herself uses a very complex tool
that represents 3D structures with stereoscopic pictures that you should
view with a special optical viewer. Some people can master the trick of
viewing them by crossing their eyes; Oliver Sacks (as usual) wrote a
fascinating article about this in the New Yorker just last week!

Other tools can draw 2D representations of 3D structure. These tools are
readily available, but they do assume you know a fair amount of
biochemistry! 

My mom suggests that authors may allow reproductions of real pictures
for non-commercial purposes. For commercial illustrations, she suggests
clip-art.

I hope this helps. If the OP has questions or clarifications he or she
can contact me directly.

Joe

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Technical Writer Opening

[Joe Malin]

No offense to Kate, and I hope someone takes this job; it sounds like a
good one, but...

if you take it, watch where you put your hand (with apologies to
"Fantastic Voyage")

Joe 


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From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Chapa, Kate
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:17 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Technical Writer Opening
Importance: High

Hi All,

I'm the Technical Recruiter with IntraLase Corp. located in Irvine, CA.
We are known for our niche Femtosecond Technology.  The IntraLase
ultrafast femtosecond laser is the first bladeless
<http://www.intralase.com/corporate/aboutus/index.html##>  laser
technology for performing Step One of LASIK and the most accurate
technology for corneal flap creation available today. The laser focuses
an infrared beam of light to precisely separate tissue through a process
called photodisruption. In this process, the focused laser pulses divide
material at the molecular level without the transfer of heat or impact
to the surrounding tissue.  

RE: Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Joe Malin]

I put an unanchored text frame on each of my master pages, rotated at 45
degrees, using a paragraph tag I call Watermark. This paragraph tag
uses the FM color LtGray, which I have defined as RGB 90%-90%-90%.  I
then insert a variable I call Watermark with the text I want (in my
case, it's CONFIDENTIAL).

I use Leximation's BookVars FM plug-in, with which I can set the
variables for all the files in a book from one text file. 


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Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:58 AM
To: Mike Wickham; Linda Sachs; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Sachs, Linda
Subject: RE: Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

I added a variable to each of my Master page templates (I have about 5
for my book). Then, before the final copy goes out, I change the
variable to nothing and import it throughout my book.  


Thanks,

Gillian Flato


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Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

[Joe Malin]

I put an unanchored text frame on each of my master pages, rotated at 45
degrees, using a paragraph tag I call "Watermark". This paragraph tag
uses the FM color "LtGray", which I have defined as RGB 90%-90%-90%.  I
then insert a variable I call "Watermark" with the text I want (in my
case, it's "CONFIDENTIAL").

I use Leximation's BookVars FM plug-in, with which I can set the
variables for all the files in a book from one text file. 


 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 8:58 AM
To: Mike Wickham; Linda Sachs; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Sachs, Linda
Subject: RE: Where to find instructions for creating a watermark

I added a variable to each of my Master page templates (I have about 5
for my book). Then, before the final copy goes out, I change the
variable to nothing and import it throughout my book.  


Thanks,

Gillian Flato

RE: Hebrew language documents in Frame

[Joe Malin]

Good grief! Just send a message to Shlomo Perets and ask *his* advice! 


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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Hebrew language documents in Frame

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone successfully created a Hebrew language document using Frame

 (in Windows)?

You may be able to kludge FM into displaying some Hebrew characters, but
AFAIK there's no way to get FM to write right-to-left. 
You'll have to use something else (e.g. Indesign, Word) instead. 

Harro de Jong
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RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

[Joe Malin]

My $.02 

Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the
money, Photoshop is the way to go. 

Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop,
Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro.

You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application
is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in
turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately,
Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of
help is available.

Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap
graphics? I can elaborate if necessary.

Joe


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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:11 PM
To: 'Cris Reeser'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit
are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you.  You are
describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more
appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks.

If budget is a concern, you can also try:

 PaintShopPro
  $79 US
  http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro
  Free evaluation version available
  Win only

 the Gimp
  **FREE**
  http://www.gimp.org
  Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc..

-Michael


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From: Cris Reeser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My
writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We
need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or
MSWord files. 

We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places,
artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that
cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale
because the hidden lines or text show up again. 

We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not
have the source file.

Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you
recommend?


Cris Reeser
Sr. Technical Writer


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Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

[Joe Malin]

My $.02 

Cleaning up graphics is one of Photoshop's target tasks. If you have the
money, Photoshop is the way to go. 

Creative Suite is worth the price, since it includes Photoshop,
Illustrator, *and* Acrobat Pro.

You will find that any sufficiently powerful bitmap editing application
is difficult to use. More power usually means more options, which in
turn means more ways to accidentally do something wrong! Fortunately,
Photoshop is one of the world's most popular packages, so all sorts of
help is available.

Does everyone understand the difference between vector and bitmap
graphics? I can elaborate if necessary.

Joe


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Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Michael O'Neill
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:11 PM
To: 'Cris Reeser'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

Based on what you wrote, and assuming that the graphics you have to edit
are not Vectors, I would say Photoshop is the tool for you.  You are
describing editing pixels, and Photoshop would likely be more
appropriate than Illustrator for these tasks.

If budget is a concern, you can also try:

 PaintShopPro
  $79 US
  http://www.corel.com/PaintShopPro
  Free evaluation version available
  Win only

 the Gimp
  **FREE**
  http://www.gimp.org
  Win, Mac, Linux, Unix, etc..

-Michael


-Original Message-
From: Cris Reeser [mailto:c...@magma-da.com]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:58 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My
writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We
need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or
MSWord files. 

We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places,
artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that
cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale
because the hidden lines or text show up again. 

We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not
have the source file.

Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you
recommend?


Cris Reeser
Sr. Technical Writer


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