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assume the difficult part already exists,
since we can manually trigger the migration?
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I think we need a damned good reason to rename, more so than this name is
cooler. I also think we should ask the broader community's reaction first.
The community is tiny, tiny until it ships with a Plone release. Now is the
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and adding new abilities that will
gracefully degrade in older browsers — and then a few new tags like
video/audio (that are also relatively easy to make degrade) and structural
elements like article/footer, etc.
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and adding new abilities that will
gracefully degrade in older browsers — and then a few new tags like
video/audio (that are also relatively easy to make degrade) and structural
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the question of when we're moving away from Transitional
DOCTYPE. Do we have a sense of when this will happen? I'm particularly keen
on knowing, as it opens up the door for us in terms of geolocation in the
next year or so.
Thanks,
- Veda
On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Alexander Limi wrote:
On Tue
Strict doctype.
On 16 March 2010 20:14, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote:
What does transitional doctype have to do with geolocation?
(and XHTML STRICT is a problem, since it implies serving with XML MIME
type,
which IE doesn't handle, so that's unlikely to happen)
On Tue, Mar 16
March 2010 22:18, Alexander Limi l...@plone.org wrote:
The way it works is that you can use the XHTML spelling (ie. closing
your
tags), but you serve it up as normal HTML.
http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#Should_I_close_empty_elements_with_.2F.3E_or_.3E.3F
There's no Strict or similar
) anymore. It's a
natural point to allow some reshuffling, and the focus in minor releases is
slightly different, so some people might not find that particular type of
projects as compelling.
(Writing this offline, I'm sure others have said the same already, but just
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landing too
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managed projects, similar to what Jarn and others have been doing for Plone
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silently trying to bootstrap a new one (mostly for Plone 5), and I
have rallied them to get Plone 4 beta in shape. Currently my list is Rob,
Denys, Sisi — other suggestions welcome. Spare time and follow-through more
important than skills (which can be learned ;).
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the usual
rounds of review anyway.
I don't think we have a timeline for 4.1 yet.
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On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Kim Chee leong
le...@goldmund-wyldebeast-wunderliebe.com wrote:
Hi,
For the 4.0 release my PLIP 9311 was rejected in the last voting round. I
have
individual.
It might just be a requirement for (or caused by? ;) being the release
manager.
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Nate Aune na...@jazkarta.com wrote:
I think pointing newbies to the list of PLIPs is not a wise move from
a marketing standpoint. You can certainly have the link to the PLIP
page from the roadmap page, but I think there needs
Boo! Hiss!
:)
(this message was brought to you by the inventor of embarrassment-driven
developmenthttp://www.blueskyonmars.com/2009/03/02/embarrassment-driven-development/
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allocate the portlets.
Until we have proper layouts with Plone 5, this is unfortunately the best we
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in
addition to the ones listed in the review notes.
I spent quite a lot of time fixing bugs and adding print/mobile CSS etc this
weekend, and will continue improving it in the coming weeks.
Thanks for getting involved and helping with testing it!
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sorry — I really didn't expect this to be an issue at all.
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2009/7/29 Martin Aspeli optil...@gmail.com
2009/7/29 Jon Stahl jonst...@gmail.com:
So, my question is: what qualifies as explicit agreement? Does it
have to be on the permanent record in some manner?
In our business, an email that you keep tends to be enough. I would:
- Ask the
the mailing list up and running, nevermind — just
wanted to point to a quick and working solution :)
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create a new one. Ross
will try to get that set up.
Why not use the Trac RSS feed instead? Seems like a perfect fit for a
short-term feed like this.
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releases instead of tying
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We can potentially walk people through how to build these using Amberjack
too:
http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/9324
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testing on it, but that
might not be a bad thing, since we know much more about IE6 workarounds at
this point than we did when the original CSS was written.
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these things, and whether there's something they
can learn from it.
Alex is doing something at the Plone Symposium East for this:
http://weblion.psu.edu/news/alexander-limi-to-open-plone-symposium-east-2009
And Geir is doing a similar talk at the European Symposium. It will also
be the main
the state of the ticket to that report, so we can
keep track of the resolved/accepted states.
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this issue.
I think 3.0 had a false start, so 3.0.1 was the real release here. I might
remember wrong, too lazy / bandwidth-constrained to check right now. But
yes, it has definitely happened earlier.
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In the series of talks that were a damn shame that we didn't get at Plone
Conference 2008 (for very understandable reasons, but a lot of people
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removes AT as a part of
Plone-the-product at the very least.
This would have to be named Plone 5.0. Replacing the default types
approach is a huge undertaking, especially from the upgrade side. If Plone
5.0 was a release that only did this change, I'd still be happy with it. :)
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g.j.per...@bton.ac.uk wrote:
Might PloneTrac http://plone.org/products/plonetrac/ provide a useful
foundation to any of this? From its January 2007 (alpha) description:
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This sounds like a good starting point. +1.
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For now, we'll have to tolerate it, and see if we can do something nicer
wrt. indexing when all the other bits are in place. collective.solr would
be nice, but I don't want to put more moving parts on plone.org until we
have sanitized what's already there.
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not be adverse to moving to trac if we had a smooth migration
plan.
Migration plan is: Everything in 3.x stays the way it has been (at least
for now), for 4.0 — and possibly later releases in the 3.x series — we put
PLIPs in Trac.
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here and there, and with Hanno in
agreement, we just did it. If there's any opposition to it, I'm happy to
have that discussion too — we just moved ahead with it since it was
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milestone.
And here's a first stab at a report to track these:
http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/24
(we should probably add component in the table too, but my SQL-fu is
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Shall I draft a call announcement for discussion?
Yes, please! :)
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make an official recommendation based on the available candidates.
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one of them) and others here in San Francisco
as soon as possible.
Related, World Plone Day might offer some useful insights on these pockets
and the potential for local sprints.
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I know that I personally won't have time to work on PLIPs until the Plone
Conference — especially since I'm preparing both for PyCon Brazil and the
Plone Conference, and my mind will be in that space until the conference
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consensus is to keep the 3.0 team for Plone 3.3 (for
continuity), and elect a new FWT for 4.0 — and some overlap would be good,
to make sure the lessons learned from the 3.x releases will be carried over.
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of the missing members, I'm happy to update the group.
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in the
plone.* namespace, where there is a lot of redundancy right now. We should
be able to bring it even further down.
This is a great start for the 40-language translation push. :)
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packages from Kapil that were included in 3.0 (I believe they had a or.*
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the acceptance of the idea
than delivering the implementation at this point, I assume the above
ticket has enough info for you to make a decision for now.
Sorry about the delay!
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the time from announcement of the deadlines until
the actual deadline. 1.5 months is way too short, particularly with
Christmas in there.
I agree with Wichert's goals, but I still think there should be some more
wiggle room the first time around. :)
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got a dual pattern filtering working locally yesterday. will release
for rc2.
Go Whit!
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Alexander Limi wrote:
[..]
Any objections?
no, not from me - as long as you don't break any code ;-)
Checked in:
http://dev.plone.org/plone/changeset/16131
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to get rid of the stray span tag, so either putting the id on
the link tag itself — or remove it altogether if it isn't used — any
comments on whether this would break anything?
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I also tried slimming down the markup and making it consistent with how
other wikis work, as well as the Plone link class standard (non-existant
pages are red, add links have the entire link clickable
. At the moment, you will get duplication and/or the new document
actions in the wrong location, depending on how you look at it.
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descriptions in DCWorkflows in 2.1 final
too (thanks, Jens!):
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/CMF/480
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not a
common enough task for me to defend it from being in the main control
panel. It's something that you're likely to change once (if ever), and
then never touch it again. Sounds like a secondary settings panel to me.
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find a user. Which excludes a lot of new functionality that really needs
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Alexander Limi wrote:
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:45:56 -0700, Wichert Akkerman
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- Members folder gets created even though it's turned off?
Bug, should be fixed.
Still present.
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for an example)
- Adding comments should give you a textfield inline
- etc...
3.0.x minor are for bug and security fixes, not feature changes.
So in 9 months, we can add comments without reloading the page, great...
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to me, I'm happy to merge them and sanitize. I
have asked him several times, but no response yet.
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:43:13 -0700, Alexander Limi
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- There's something strange going on with enabling comments, it
only works on the initial view of the page after saving,
possibly related
This actually seems to be related to the KSS
page (which is a default view in the portal), you
don't get any menus, so it's hard to add anything. In fact, since that's
the only page (and the menus are missing from folder_contents), you can't
really add anything anymore, which is unfortunate. :)
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page *of the previous object* you
looked at
Very bad indeed.
Again, I strongly recommend that we disable this *unless* the KSS people
have time (and willingness) to spend fixing history+URL injection.
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Again, I strongly recommend that we disable this *unless* the KSS people
have time (and willingness) to spend fixing history+URL injection.
That sentence was missing a for now. :)
I'm happy to reintroduce
it into AT and test
that it works TTW right now, but i'll try to get it done tonight unless
someone beats me to it.
Old-skool Zope power ;)
Geir just checked in the fix, and it seems to work for everything I was
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cling
to this distinction.
Because now it's by design, not by accident.
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, as well as making the error page
friendlier:
http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6277
Should be a very straightforward sprint task for the people there this
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:43:13 +0100, Alexander Limi
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- Fieldsets
- Do we still support fieldsets that require something on
fieldset #1 to be filled out before you
in
plone.app.controlpanel, then this is a totally different problem. Let me
turn it on its head: Do you want developers to expose every single setting
in the Plone control panels because it's easier than doing it in other
locations?
Now, *that's* wrong, if you ask me. :)
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presentation mode styling
- Search: only in this section checkbox
- Fix in 3.0.x releases
- Incremental KSS UI improvements, examples:
- Login should be in-place (digg.com for an example)
- Adding comments should give you a textfield inline
- etc...
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Might be a
good time to create that product-developers list we have been
considering
for a while, too.
+1. =)
(Are you talking about an e-mail list?)
Yes
authors to. Might be a
good time to create that product-developers list we have been considering
for a while, too.
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is actually not related
to the IE bug, but rather the fact that it breaks HTML anchors, something
we have started to use a lot lately (and Kupu now has support for).
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takes up
0.52s, and the next most expensive call is
mtool.getMemberInfo(user.getId()), which takes 0.04 seconds (ie. not worth
optimizing). If we can make globalize faster, everyone wins. :)
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http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi?:action=displayname=wickedversion=1.1.1
fixed the on-save/registration issue limi observed
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at the same time? I believe both of these are
very useful (but their release/maintenance/license state is a bit
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