Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 dependencies

2009-06-08 Thread Tom Lazar
On 01.06.2009, at 21:42, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I think we can move all the admin-UI stuff like preference screens, folder_copy, object_rename and author pages and the like from CMFPlone to browser views in Plone 4, as these tend not to be customized that often. +1 also, those views

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 2009: Going from here

2009-05-26 Thread Tom Lazar
On 13.05.2009, at 01:23, Steve McMahon wrote: By my reading, here is the list of those willing to participate in a Plone 4 framework team: Raphael R. Ross P. Matthew W. David G. Calvin H.P. Alec M. Erik R, Laurence R. [...] If you'd like your name added, or removed, please put in a message

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Tom Lazar
for the record, i think this is a great idea. this will also take some weight off of the 4release, since some of its low-risk components will have had some real-world usage by then. also, it should make migrations from 3.x to 4.x easier, i could imagine. i'm also more than fine with eric as

Re: [Framework-Team] Working out-of-the-box WebDAV (PLIP 187) in Plone 3.4 or later

2009-04-10 Thread Tom Lazar
On 08.04.2009, at 11:02, Graham Perrin wrote: A question for FWT: * instinctively, where/when on Plone roadmap do you envisage PLIP 187? given that 3.3 is in rc state, 3.4 will be the earliest possible release. it would be great, if this work would be picked up and completed. i'm

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #246 ready for review (pending review notes)

2009-03-09 Thread Tom Lazar
On 07.03.2009, at 14:38, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Jan 18, 2009, at 1:44 AM, Ricardo Alves wrote: - Change the view name to ics_view, which is the same name used for a single event. I find the current name (calendar.ics) a bit confusing, because I would expect it to be the downloaded file's

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #234 Review Revisions

2009-02-12 Thread Tom Lazar
On 12.02.2009, at 13:19, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 12, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: [...] i did notice that test (which is why i added almost in almost none of the changes are actually tested ;)), but found that one was far from enough. anyway, tom will make sure there are

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #234 Review Revisions

2009-02-11 Thread Tom Lazar
thanks, calvin! i'll take a look at it ASAP, which probably will mean saturday, though... also thanks for the changeset url, that kind of stuff is really helpful for reviewers (*hint* *hint* to other list members ;-) cheers, tom On 10.02.2009, at 06:55, Calvin Hendryx-Parker wrote:

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #234 Review Revisions

2009-02-08 Thread Tom Lazar
absolutely fine by me. it would be great, though, if you could deliver the final version before wednesday, then i could review it on the last day of the berlinale-sprint here, after that i will be really busy with catching up on stuff. cheers, tom On 08.02.2009, at 07:24, Calvin

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Final review report

2009-02-04 Thread Tom Lazar
thanks steve, for the summary report! there's only one thing i'd like to point out (or rather make explicit), namely, that: On 04.02.2009, at 17:48, Steve McMahon wrote: [...] PLIP #234: Standardizing our use of INavigationRoot Review Complete: -2 does not mean, that it is flat out

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 243 review buildout available

2009-02-02 Thread Tom Lazar
i have updated my review after the recent changes: --snip-- Second review after fixes (2009-02-02) -- After fixes by Wichert and Danny the picture looks much prettier :-) * All but two tests passed. One is explicitely related to another ticket and

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2009-01-31 Thread Tom Lazar
On 30.01.2009, at 21:56, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: FYI i have completed my two remaining reviews and have additionally reviewed #243 which was without a review. I've fixed the problems you saw with #243. i've updated my local buildout and the the site works fine

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2009-01-30 Thread Tom Lazar
FYI i have completed my two remaining reviews and have additionally reviewed #243 which was without a review. there are still outstanding reviews from raphael, witsch and mj (or have they perhaps not updated the pliptallies page[1]?) and IMO #243 would also warrant a UI review! i have

Re: [Framework-Team] Concern about review progress

2009-01-23 Thread Tom Lazar
On 23.01.2009, at 10:07, Wichert Akkerman wrote: We are not almost a week into the two review period, and at this point two out of the required 22 reviews have been done, two PLIPs have not been assigned a second reviewer and none of PLIPs have received UI feedback. That lack of progress has me

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2009-01-19 Thread Tom Lazar
thanks wichert for your reminder and andi and raphael for your quick replies. i've taken this thread as opportunity to summarize the plips and who (so far) has taken on which review. i've included andi's and raphael's and added mine. since danny won't be able to do technical evaluations

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: NuPlone and Plone 3.2

2009-01-13 Thread Tom Lazar
On 13.01.2009, at 00:14, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: The question now is how we deal with the release. We could: - Add Products.NuPlone as a dependency of the Plone egg. This would mean 'Plone' always comes with NuPlone, but there's no reason overt for the dependency.

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: NuPlone and Plone 3.2

2009-01-05 Thread Tom Lazar
On 04.01.2009, at 04:06, Martin Aspeli wrote: Matthew Wilkes wrote: On 3 Jan 2009, at 07:55, Graham Perrin wrote: In partial answer, http://dev.plone.org/plone/wiki/WheredItGoOnPloneTrunk http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/8805

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP lifecycle

2008-12-28 Thread Tom Lazar
On 27.12.2008, at 23:28, Alexander Limi wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:56:23 -0800, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote: One way to keep these cross-checks lightweight might be to start with a statement of impact. There are code changes, for example, that have no UI impact. In such

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Tom Lazar
On 18.12.2008, at 11:21, Martin Aspeli wrote: In particular, one of the things we'd discussed and would like to see more of, is a consultative approach where the framework team reviewer asks for review from people outside the team. Anyone who is motivated to contribute opinions will be heartily

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Tom Lazar
On 18.12.2008, at 11:34, Wichert Akkerman wrote: [...] things like user interface and documentation should be a full part of the process, absolutely and therefore should be reflected in the membership of the group which makes decisions based on those factors. i think that conclusion is

Re: [Framework-Team] Supported Plone Releases

2008-12-12 Thread Tom Lazar
my question is: how can the fwt decide this question if the key issue is the available man power and willingness to perform the actual support for a particular version. we can decide to support 2.5 but that alone doesn't make it so. personally, alec's statement would be enough for me to

Re: [Framework-Team] Plone 4 framework team nomination

2008-11-11 Thread Tom Lazar
On 11.11.2008, at 08:54, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I feel that I know Plone and Zope reasonably well by now, and I arlready have a passing familiarity with the framework and release processes. that made me LOL ;-) SCNR! and for the record: i'd love to have you on board ;-)

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: 4.x team nomination

2008-11-11 Thread Tom Lazar
On 07.11.2008, at 17:18, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Nov 7, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Steve McMahon wrote: Jon and I can maintain that. Maybe next year we should use a Trac ticket. you could also use a trac ticket now (instead of the wiki page). that would probably make it easier to trac(k)

Re: [Framework-Team] Draft Call for Team Membership Applications

2008-11-04 Thread Tom Lazar
On 02.11.2008, at 12:17, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 00:31, Steve McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got it. How's this? +1 from me :-) me, too. the new version does sound a bit more inviting than the old one, good feedback, martijn! cheers, tom -- Martijn Pieters

Re: [Framework-Team] 3.3 timeline

2008-11-04 Thread Tom Lazar
On 03.11.2008, at 10:27, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I've been told the framework team wants to be involved with setting timeframes for releases. I want to propose to take this one step further during the PLIP handling phase: I would like the framework team to propose a timeline for PLIP

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Draft Call for Team Membership Applications

2008-10-31 Thread Tom Lazar
On 31.10.2008, at 17:13, Steve McMahon wrote: We should get this out soon. If you'd like changes, please get them in right away. like i said, +1 from me ;-) go steve! Steve On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Steve McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DRAFT Call for Plone 4.x Framework Team

Re: [Framework-Team] Draft Call for Team Membership Applications

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Lazar
thanks for the draft, steve! i wouldn't change anything, but unless my cold is still clogging up my brain too much, it doesn't seem to state the number of members the team will have, which might be worth mentioning to applicants. so perhaps we could stick that in there somewhere? cheers,

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Lazar
On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote: Well, I am all in favor of having the UI fixed. Perhaps some of the kss boys can do this. You need to have a hover event that shows a button next to the widget (button can styles using css into a pencil or something) and the click

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #197: Add FeedParser as external requirement

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Lazar
oops, this one slipped under my radar yesterday (as evidenced my steve's tally sheet). so for the record: +1 ;-) cheers, tom On Oct 26, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 23:59, Maurits van Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose plip 197 for Plone 3.3. Or

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP Tallies

2008-10-28 Thread Tom Lazar
steve, here's the tally of my remaining plips: 126 +1 228 +1 236 -1 238 +1 239 +1 240 +1 241 +1 242 -1 243 +1 244 -1 247 +1 i've posted the votes and their motivations at the plips, but not on the list. cheers, tom On 28.10.2008, at 11:21, Tom Lazar wrote: yes, sorry for holding things

Re: [Framework-Team] Comments on PLIP 244

2008-10-28 Thread Tom Lazar
On 28.10.2008, at 11:53, Ricardo Alves wrote: Hi framework team, I'm sorry I didnt' comment on the previous discussion about PLIP #244, but I wasn't subscribing this list. Anyway, I'd like to comment on some of the objections already posted in the PLIP page. About the usefulness of

Re: [Framework-Team] Kicking off Plone 4: Release Manager candidate

2008-10-28 Thread Tom Lazar
On 28.10.2008, at 13:03, Alan Runyan wrote: +1 to Hanno/Martin being Plone 4 release manager/communicator same here! tom -- Alan Runyan Enfold Systems, Inc. http://www.enfoldsystems.com/ phone: +1.713.942.2377x111 fax: +1.832.201.8856 ___

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 246: View for rendering events as an iCalendar file

2008-10-24 Thread Tom Lazar
having looked at the diff (and having witnessed its creation on the plane ;-) i'd hereby like to +1 the plip, as well as the implementation. it's a small, useful enhancement and i would like to keep it small. let's keep refactoring ATCT for another day and plip ;-) cheers, tom On

Re: [Framework-Team] Notes from Framework Team Meeting in DC

2008-10-20 Thread Tom Lazar
thanks stve for the concise write up. this kind of stuff (i.e. putting consensus into written form) is very important imho. personally, i think your write up (and the decisions we reached during the meeting) strike a very good balance between being too formal and thus restricting on the

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 244: Portlet management improvements

2008-10-16 Thread Tom Lazar
+1 from me The way I understand the proposed changes they are not breaking backwards compatibility, but simply make it easier to achieve already existing functionality. also +1 on the idea of making portlet assignments browser layer dependant. that's a feature i often find a need for.

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 244: Portlet management improvements

2008-10-16 Thread Tom Lazar
On 17.10.2008, at 00:39, Martin Aspeli wrote: I used to think that way, I'm not so sure anymore. Speaking to people about this over the past few months, I've come to realise that our model of thinking that the site root is the parent of all content from which things like portlets can

Re: [Framework-Team] Meeting up in DC

2008-10-06 Thread Tom Lazar
On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Steve McMahon wrote: I'll take that as a nomination for Fado. Fado it is! Shall we aim for 7pm? well, there's the dinner meeting at 6pm at the ethipian restaurant[1] and for 8pm at fados. my personal plan was to meet folks at 6pm at the restaurant (Meskerem

Re: [Framework-Team] Meeting up in DC

2008-10-06 Thread Tom Lazar
for monday: Monday, October 6th, 6pm, Ethiopian dinner at Meskerem 2434 18th St NW. so, see y'all there then! cheers, tom On 6 okt 2008, at 11:36, Tom Lazar wrote: On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Steve McMahon wrote: I'll take that as a nomination for Fado. Fado it is! Shall we aim for 7pm

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #187: Working out-of-the-box WebDAV

2008-10-06 Thread Tom Lazar
On Oct 3, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: I would like to propose PLIP #187 for Plone 3.3. feature wise i think we all agree that it's a very desirable feature. IMHO i think it's a perfect match for 3.3 as it represents a backend improvement that doesn't affect API or UI. so i'm

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.2 and 3.3 planning

2008-09-17 Thread Tom Lazar
if any of my previous conferences and sprints are an indicator, i just *know* that i won't be doing any actual fwt review work while in DC. but that's not important. review work is 'fleissarbeit' to use a nice german term here and can easily be done alone, whenever one can find some time.

Re: [Framework-Team] Framework Team Meeting at Conference

2008-09-12 Thread Tom Lazar
On 12.09.2008, at 10:22, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Sep 12, 2008, at 4:16 AM, Jon Stahl wrote: I'd love to join you all, if you're willing to let an interested bystander horn in. ;-) please do! :) absolutely! andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Re: Framework Team Page Needs Updating

2008-08-29 Thread Tom Lazar
just for the record: the way i recall things, all current members pretty much agreed from the start to follow up until 3.2. now it seems, that that, which was originally (albeit vaguely) planned for 3.2 will be split up into 3.2 and 3.3. i'm certainly happy to serve on the board until 3.3

Re: [Framework-Team] Resource Registries improvements PLIP

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Lazar
+1 from me, too. i'm wondering though, if there could be a more elegant solution to the SSL issue. i.e rather than requiring two registry entries with their own https-conditions, why not make that decision at render time i.e. in the template? (i.e. Products/ResourceRegistries/www/

Re: [Framework-Team] availability over the next 5 months

2008-07-01 Thread Tom Lazar
hi wiggy et. al.! i'll be on vacation (and entirely offline!) from july 26th through to august 11th. other than that i will try my best to help get 3.2 out the door... bring it on! ;-) cheers, tom On 29.06.2008, at 21:43, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Can the members of the framework team

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] moving description to aviewlet

2008-05-21 Thread Tom Lazar
On 20.05.2008, at 06:53, Jon Stahl wrote: I agree that we should have a stronger opinion about this in Plone 4.0. Personally, I lean towards making it pure-metatadat and adding a lead-in content field. +1 FWIW, this is exactly what we are doing here for a current (newspaper) project

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: WebDAV changes

2008-02-27 Thread Tom Lazar
On 24.02.2008, at 21:49, George Lee wrote: Tom Lazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for the record: the front-page issue mentioned by wiggy did *not* occur in my testing of the bundle itself, which suggests that it is perhaps caused by some side-effect of previous merges. and certainly outside

Re: [Framework-Team] WebDAV changes, tests and process improvements

2008-02-27 Thread Tom Lazar
On 27.02.2008, at 17:43, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 27, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: On 27 Feb 2008, at 10:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With this lack of general knowledge, I didn't (don't) know ... My apologies! I just noticed http://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7732#comment:2

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: WebDAV changes

2008-02-24 Thread Tom Lazar
as a member of the framework team (and as somebody who co-reviewed sidnei's bundle) i feel the need to speak up. sidnei, i understand your frustration but please consider the following: * your bundle was one of the most complex ones submitted (certainly the one with the largest impact) *

Re: [Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Lazar
On 20.02.2008, at 09:35, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Thanks very much for the report Raphael. I'm going to treat this as the official recommendatation of the framework team. and so will i. some of the +3 and +4 would actually need to be increased by one, namely my own vote, which i chose to

[Framework-Team] Ticket #7816 Improve Framework Team process

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Lazar
FYI, limi has created a ticket for improving the framework team process -- but s3kritly, it seems ;-). thanks to raphael for the pointer, though. perhaps others would like add themselves to the cc: list: https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/7816 cheers, tom

Re: [Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Lazar
maybe i didn't understand you correctly, but i was under the impression that you had additionally suggestded that the inline validation should als explicitly *clear* and statusmessages. this would certainly address the issue you're mentioning below... at least i think so. *scratches head*

Re: [Framework-Team] Ticket #7816 Improve Framework Team process

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Lazar
On 20.02.2008, at 16:29, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 20, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: FYI, limi has created a ticket for improving the framework team process -- but s3kritly, it seems ;-). that's a PSPS focus area ticket, i.e. one of the things identified at the summit

Re: [Framework-Team] The final(?) verdict

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Lazar
On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:45 PM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote: Hi all, sorry for the late reply, had a busy day. Anyway, thanks again Raphael for your wrap up. On 20 feb 2008, at 15:48, Raphael Ritz wrote: Now, a variant that we might want to consider is only to clear (but not to issue the error

Re: [Framework-Team] Testing for PLIP 209: Unified Installer Plus Buildout

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Lazar
. Steve On 2/17/08, Tom Lazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi graham, thanks for the hint, however, i had tried that already myself and it didn't work, either. sudo sh ./install.sh --target=/opt/zope/instances/209 -- user=tomster -- instance=plip209 zeo ZEO Cluster Install selected This install

Re: [Framework-Team] Suggestion for more a better streamlined process?

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Lazar
On 18.02.2008, at 11:41, Martin Aspeli wrote: Thanks Danny, There have been various good ideas about how to improve the process. I think right now we need to focus on finishing the release, but we should definitely capture the lessons learned afterwards and write up a clearer process,

Re: [Framework-Team] Testing for PLIP 209: Unified Installer Plus Buildout

2008-02-17 Thread Tom Lazar
stumble over the same issues. tom On Feb 16, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Graham Perrin wrote: On 16 Feb 2008, at 11:55, Tom Lazar wrote: sudo sh install.sh --target=/opt/zope/instances/209 --user=tomster --instance=plip209 zeo Where you have sudo sh install.sh should that be, sudo sh ./install.sh

[Framework-Team] Re: tomorrow's PLIP review deadline

2008-02-17 Thread Tom Lazar
judging by andi's summary and the recent reviews we currently have the following plips that have only one review (there aren't any left, that have been submitted and have not been reviewed, so at least we've got that covered...) #187: Working Out-of-the-box WebDAV

Re: [Framework-Team] my review status

2008-02-17 Thread Tom Lazar
On Feb 18, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 17, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: sorry for the delay, i went out with hannosch and lurker yesterday evening, instead of finishing my last review ;-) way to go. i finished 201 but still couldn't get 209 to work (despite

Re: [Framework-Team] Testing for PLIP 209: Unified Installer Plus Buildout

2008-02-16 Thread Tom Lazar
i just realized, that steve might not get notifications from trac, so i hereby post my previous comment: after checking out : and issueing the following command: sudo sh install.sh --target=/opt/zope/instances/209 --user=tomster -- instance=plip209 zeo i get the following output: ZEO

[Framework-Team] my review status

2008-02-16 Thread Tom Lazar
just FYI since the review deadline is *today*, as of now i have reviewed and submitted the following plips: #195: Support product dependencies #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library #213: Prepare for better Syndication #215: Include new KSS versions the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-02-16 Thread Tom Lazar
the scope of the 3.1 release (polishes under the hood) On Jan 31, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: a big 'thank you' from me, too. i think the changes you mentioned are well worth including in 3.1 and i will definitely review this plip, too (also it fits quite nicely with florian's jquery plip

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Re: PLIP 212 ready for review

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Lazar
On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Florian Schulze wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:20:40 +0100, Tom Lazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12.02.2008, at 23:41, Florian Schulze wrote: instead i got the following error in jquery.js (via firebug) a is not a function [Break on this error] eval

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 213 ready for review

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Lazar
On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Florian Schulze wrote: Hi! The buildout is at https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip213-syndication-preps Notes are in the buildout. I guess this is the smallest PLIP of all :) yay, a nice small plip. it certainly works nicely during my clicktests.

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 213 ready for review

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Lazar
On 15.02.2008, at 11:34, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: however, i have one problem, which is more svn-kungfoo related than to this plip. given the branch you've cut of CMFPlone https://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/CMFPlone/branches/plip213-syndication-preps how can i

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Re: PLIP 212 ready for review

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Lazar
are we going to go about this? will we collect explicit votes from andi, martijn and danny? On 15.02.2008, at 13:41, Raphael Ritz wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Florian Schulze wrote: I can't reproduce any of these issues. I tried

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 213 ready for review

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Lazar
after looking at the diffs -- :-) -- i'd hereby like to cast my approval of this plip, as well. On 19.01.2008, at 18:48, Florian Schulze wrote: Hi! The buildout is at https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip213-syndication-preps Notes are in the buildout. I guess this is the smallest

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Re: PLIP 212 ready for review

2008-02-15 Thread Tom Lazar
On 15.02.2008, at 11:56, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Florian Schulze wrote: I can't reproduce any of these issues. I tried my exisiting buildout and I made a fresh co of the buildout and ran buildout with the option to get the newest

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Updated PLIP review deadline

2008-02-14 Thread Tom Lazar
On Feb 14, 2008, at 7:19 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 7, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Once you post your reviews (here?) what happens? How does the team arrive at a final yes/no vote? How long does that take? hmm, i can't decide on these, of course, but i'd still like to try

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Updated PLIP review deadline

2008-02-14 Thread Tom Lazar
On Feb 14, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: otherwise we should have a complete set of votes by monday night, at which point i'll post the verdict or rather the recommendations of the framework team. that should leave enough time for merging and last-minute polishing before the alpha

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 212 ready for review

2008-02-13 Thread Tom Lazar
hello florian, hello martijn, i've completed my review and committed the notes in the svn bundle. i repeated the manual tests with windows IE 6.0, but not with 7.0 as i didn't have the time to install a new windows VM to install IE 7 without overwriting my existing 6.0 but since everything

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 212 ready for review

2008-02-12 Thread Tom Lazar
hi florian, hello fellow framework team members, i started reviewing plip 212 on the plane back to berlin and got most covered. i committed my initial review and post a copy of it here, for your convenience. i still need to repeat the click tests i've done with IE 6 and IE 7, as i haven't

Fwd: [Framework-Team] Two more reviews primed

2008-02-09 Thread Tom Lazar
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Re: [Framework-Team] February 16 Deadline?

2008-02-09 Thread Tom Lazar
thanks for the post george, i will definitely be able to meet the feb 16th deadline and hereby volunteer to additionally pick up any 'leftovers' if neccessary! cheers, tom On Feb 9, 2008, at 9:30 PM, George Lee wrote: Hi, When Andi suggested the February 16 deadline, it seemed to be

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-02-04 Thread Tom Lazar
://wwwkeys.de.pgp.net/ plone 3.0.5 released! -- http://plone.org/products/plone Tom Lazar http://tomster.org ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team

Re: pyflakes? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Translation effort for Plone 3.1)

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Lazar
On 01.02.2008, at 12:07, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Feb 1, 2008 11:51 AM, Andreas Zeidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: talking about weeding out stuff bring another thing to mind. not exactly related to translations, but i'll throw it in here

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs 208 and 217 Ready for Review

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Lazar
updates and fixes would only go into the new package. of course, we'd leave the old packages around. and, of course, maintaining two branches just for naming reasons is out of the question. we can add a note in README.txt or somesuch and make an announcement at the product's PSC presence.

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs 208 and 217 Ready for Review

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Lazar
i'd like to make a case for 'building the plone brand' not only for the integrator/user audience (as we already are doing) but also for the develeoper audience. let's not be too shy or modest here. borg is as 'plonish' in regard to its cleanliness, documentation, extensibility etc. as it

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs 208 and 217 Ready for Review

2008-02-01 Thread Tom Lazar
, On 01/02/2008, Tom Lazar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd like to make a case for 'building the plone brand' not only for the integrator/user audience (as we already are doing) but also for the develeoper audience. let's not be too shy or modest here. borg is as 'plonish' in regard to its cleanliness

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Lazar
/ plone 3.0.5 released! -- http://plone.org/products/plone Tom Lazar http://tomster.org ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Lazar
a big 'thank you' from me, too. i think the changes you mentioned are well worth including in 3.1 and i will definitely review this plip, too (also it fits quite nicely with florian's jquery plip) again, i will try to fit this in before the 12th (but no promises...) cheers, tom On

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Lazar
i, too must apologize for my lack of reviewing so far. i'm busy in a project and my wife has started working again this month. add two kids and a pesky tax deadline to the equation and geek time approaches zero... andi and i are going to meet this week and will do some review work

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-21 Thread Tom Lazar
just a quick 'heads up' from me that i have no problem with the delay. i'd very much like to see new and improved kss in every new version of plone ;-) cheers, tom p.s. have fun in austria, wish i could be there... On 20.01.2008, at 02:04, Balazs Ree wrote: Dear Framework Team, we

Re: [Framework-Team] Organizing the review

2008-01-19 Thread Tom Lazar
andi, sorry about the silence, i've fallen a bit ill (that noro virus that's going round here in berlin, watch out...) i think the idea with trac is excellent and have, in fact, been harbouring similar ideas in that regard but kept quiet since i knew that i don't have the resources right

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Official submission: PLIP 184, 200, 203 and 204

2008-01-16 Thread Tom Lazar
wiggy, you are right. i wasn't wearing my 'user perspective glasses' ;-) cheers, tom On Jan 16, 2008, at 9:05 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: for the record (as a framework team member) i'd like to support martin on this issue. the formlib wysiwyg support

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Official submission: PLIP 184, 200, 203 and 204

2008-01-15 Thread Tom Lazar
for the record (as a framework team member) i'd like to support martin on this issue. the formlib wysiwyg support is a *new* feature, and if it happens to *not* work for fckeditor, eventhough wysiwg support used to work for kupu *and* fckeditor prior to formlib, then that's

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 195 implementation ready for review

2008-01-15 Thread Tom Lazar
On 15.01.2008, at 22:43, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Raphael Ritz wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: 2. Not sure it's the best possible UI to completely hide a product if a dependency is missing. [...] I'ld like some input from Hanno on that. What I did was update the isInstallable method in the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #187 for Plone 3.1

2007-12-22 Thread Tom Lazar
for the record, i totally second andi's approach re: the deadline issue. it's a tricky dance, for sure and we must never forget that we're dealing with voluntarily submitted offers of (often) hard work which shouldn't be cast aside lightly, but then again, we do need a timetable in order

Re: [Framework-Team] A question about bundles and PLIP 203

2007-12-21 Thread Tom Lazar
On 21.12.2007, at 10:21, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, I have two, somewhat related questions: - For pretty much all of my PLIPs, I'll be changing one package only. I suspect many Plone 3.1 PLIPs will be the same. I can obviously create a buildout (copying

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 220: Improve browser layer support

2007-12-14 Thread Tom Lazar
On 14.12.2007, at 21:18, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 220: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/ 220 +1 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple.

Re: [Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Lazar
now that i've understood what it's about: +1 from me, too ;-) thanks raphael! cheers, tom On 13.12.2007, at 08:41, Raphael Ritz wrote: Tom Lazar wrote: On 11.12.2007, at 13:35, Laurence Rowe wrote: I'd like to see the following for 3.1: #210: Improve UI support for objects on multiple

Re: [Framework-Team] collecting votes / assigning plips to 3.1 in PSC

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Lazar
On 13.12.2007, at 13:33, Andreas Zeidler wrote: so, all in all i'm -1 for adding them right away. sure, no problem. after the deadline is just fine, too. (and much simpler in this case) ___ Framework-Team mailing list

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: My PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-12 Thread Tom Lazar
On 12.12.2007, at 18:45, Raphael Ritz wrote: Alec Mitchell wrote: [..] I will be writing a PLIP shortly which will hopefully make any merging of CMFPlacefulWorkflow into the workflow tool unnecessary. The idea is adapter based workflow assignment. By default all IDynamicType objects

Re: [Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-12 Thread Tom Lazar
On 11.12.2007, at 13:35, Laurence Rowe wrote: I'd like to see the following for 3.1: #210: Improve UI support for objects on multiple workflows DCWorkflow allows for a chain of workflows to be specified for a type. please explain. does chaining mean, that an object/type can have multiple

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-09 Thread Tom Lazar
On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:45 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: ... there's another kind of portlet which we can provide (ship with or not, up to you guys) - a referenced content portlet. Here, you search (using an UberSelectionWidget) for a Page that's then rendered as

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-08 Thread Tom Lazar
hi everybody, here's my feedback on the plips submitted by martin. On Dec 2, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: 1. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/184 - Ship additional portlets This is actually raised by Jon Stahl, but I've been involved in the implementation of the portlets

Re: [Framework-Team] review bundle for PLIP 195 ready

2007-12-08 Thread Tom Lazar
On 03.12.2007, at 23:12, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have prepared a review bundle for PLIP 195: https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip195-dependencies There were a couple of bugs related to handling of export steps in GenericSetup. Those have been

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-04 Thread Tom Lazar
i'll take a look at the plips and check out their bundles (including wiggy's #195) during the weekend and will report by sunday evenening. cheers, tom On Dec 3, 2007, at 11:20 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 2, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi team, hi martin, I'm

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #195: Support product dependencies

2007-11-26 Thread Tom Lazar
On Nov 26, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Nov 26, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: sounds great to me, esp after having to manually install eight or so packages for every new test site in the correct order for far too long... :) so, i'm +1 for accepting the PLIP.

Re: [Framework-Team] Move footer.pt and colophon.pt to viewlets?

2007-06-07 Thread Tom Lazar
On 07.06.2007, at 02:18, Martin Aspeli wrote: This is a bit late in the game, but I'd like to offer for consideration whether we should move footer.pt and colophon.pt to viewlets? Why? Because custom skins very often want to hide these. With the (incredibly cool) new viewlet manager

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: plone.theme - one more package for Plone 3?

2007-05-22 Thread Tom Lazar
On 21.05.2007, at 23:57, Martin Aspeli wrote: whit wrote: I would say this point you are at wiggy's mercy. FWIW: i like this feature a lot and would be very pleased with its inclusion in 3.0 final. judging from my own frustration that i've had so far with five based views 'messing up'

Re: [Framework-Team] plone products leaders (v2)

2007-03-17 Thread Tom Lazar
On Mar 17, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Thierry Benita wrote: What do you think of this idea ? Do you think that it is possible/affordable ? + 100 and thanks for the nice writeup, i think this initiative comes at a very good time, because on the one hand we definitely need to lighten the load of

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