Re: Problems with ordinary user permissions

2003-10-20 Thread Terry Lambert
carmoda wrote:
> ~sigh~
> 
> seems like an awful lot of stuffing around for something that a
> user/developer should be able to access by default *in my opinion*. so
> far i have about 30% of functionality of my previous W2K system after
> several times the time required for setup. [as a workstation]
> 
> FreeBSD may be 'free' and more stable, but after i add my time to a
> setup it is over twice the price of XP Pro.

You charge too much.  8-) 8-).


> Something HAS to be done on the install front. I did select 'developer +
> X-windows' in the sysinstall and i think it would make more sense if the
>   account security was more 'open' for the average user given they would
> be 'developing' on the platform. i mean, half of my apps didnt work due
> to permissions being short. again, i did select that i wanted a
> 'developer - x-windows' install.

Windows defaults to "everyone on the Internet can write my disk";
FreeBSD defaults to "only root can write my disk"; OpenBSD defaults
to "only God can write my disk, and even he needs a 1024 bit key".

It's all a matter of trading security vs. ease of use.

For the most part, you should install all software as root, and
then expect that the software can be configured to "do the right
thing" as part of the install.

In general, I would say that most of your problems arise from the
UNIX security model, and the failure of the software vendors or
ports maintainers or both to anticipate you using your machine as
if it's a signle use box.

FWIW, if you are going to use the machine as a single user box,
you probably want to create your user as uid 0:0, even if the name
is not actually "root", and then auto-login the user without a
password into something like a KDE environment.

Then the console user owns all the hardware, and there's no issues
for single user use that need you to go to root to resolve.

-- Terry
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Re: Any ideas on X freezing up with NVIDIA drivers?

2003-10-20 Thread Don Whitteker
( I am sorry if this was duplicated...mistyped address
and it was returned)

--- Chris Readle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fellow newb here, but I've also been working on X
> issues with my GForceFX
> in Linux *and* FBSD so I might (and I stress might)
> be able to help.

Hey man...any help at all is appreciated = )

> First things first, can you post your
> /etc/X11/XF86Config file?
here ya go..

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"

# Load "freetype"
# Load "xtt"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
#Load  "dri"
Load  "dbe"
#Load  "record"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "type1"
Load  "speedo"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "Auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
HorizSync31.5 - 48.5
VertRefresh  50.0 - 70.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "nvidia"
Option  "NvAgp" "1" #was tring this out 
#when I
was experimenting with the nvidia AGPGART
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes"1024x768" "800x600"
"640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection
> Are you using *dm (xdm, kdm, gdm, etc) or are you
> booting to CLI and doing
> startx?  I've had more issues with kdm and my FX
> than with CLI + startx.

Actually I start up in the CLI and startx to get in

> As for AGP and kernel config, I've gotten mine
> working with AGP in the
> kernel and compiled with no optimizations other than
> CPUTYPE.

I will try again with it like that

> Once I get a look at your files (and compare them to
> mine at home) I might
> have some more suggestions.
> 
> chris

That would be very cool = )

Don

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Re: root passwd change

2003-10-20 Thread Eric Pogroski
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 19:37:19 +
DanB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there other way to change the root password that been lost without
> shutting down the computer.
> 
> Old way shutdown space barboot -s  #mount  -t ufs -a
> #passwd
> # exit to multiusers.

Try this:

# shutdown now
< hit return to accept 'sh' as the default shell >
# passwd
# exit

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4.8-REL firewall/gateway not playing nicely with Comcast COM21 modem

2003-10-20 Thread J. Seth Henry
Hey gang,
I have been trying to build an Internet gateway using a 933MHz EPIA
mainboard, and a couple of 3Com 3C905C-TX NIC cards. The gateway works
great, under low load - but has a problem with dropping connectivity
under load.

At first, I thought it might be the VIA LAN port, a vr device. However,
I put two 3Com cards in the box, and it still has problems. Both boards
are known good - they run just fine, at full loads, in other systems.

I have noticed it has a real issue when I window applications through
ssh, or use the cisco ATA (for Vonage VOIP). Sometimes it will work just
fine for hours, then just die. The router host itself is fine - it just
stops routing. I can login at the console, run ifconfig, etc. It just
won't send or receive packets.

Sometimes this causes the cable modem to hang, but other times the cable
modem appears fine. I can't tell, of course, but it is happily blinking
away as normal. I typically reboot both the router and the modem when
this occurs, so I don't know for sure if it was still "alive".

Oddly enough, sometimes this issue "self-corrects". Today, I lost
connectivity for an hour, then it came back up on its own.

Given the odd nature of the problem, I'm not sure what info I should
include - but I'll take a stab at it.

-dmesg:



Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 20 19:32:12 EDT 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/router
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 933371982 Hz
CPU: VIA C3 Samuel 2 (933.37-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "CentaurHauls"  Id = 0x67a  Stepping = 10
  Features=0x803035
real memory  = 264175616 (257984K bytes)
avail memory = 253591552 (247648K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0369000.
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 5 entries at 0xc00fdc80
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0:  on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  at device 1.0 on
pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pci1:  at 0.0 irq 10
isab0:  at device 17.0 on
pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 0xc000-0xc00f at device 17.1
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0:  port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 9 at device
17.2 on pci0
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uplcom0: ATEN International Serial adapter, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2
uhci1:  port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 9 at device
17.3 on pci0
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
chip1:  at device 17.4 on
pci0
pcm0:  port 0xd400-0xd403,0xd000-0xd003,0xcc00-0xccff irq
3 at device 17.5 on pci0
pcm0:  (id=0x56494161)
pci0:  (vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3065) at 18.0 irq 10
xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem
0xe400-0xe47f irq 10 at device 19.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:04:75:95:08:13
miibus0:  on xl0
xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
xl1: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe000-0xe07f mem
0xe4002000-0xe400207f irq 11 at device 20.0 on pci0
xl1: Ethernet address: 00:04:75:95:07:fa
miibus1:  on xl1
xlphy1: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus1
xlphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
orm0:  at iomem
0xc-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xc,0xd-0xd97ff on isa0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0:  flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on
isa0
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
plip0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus0
joy0 at port 0x201 on isa0
IP Filter: v3.4.31 initialized.  Default = block all, Logging = enabled
ad0: 38154MB  [77520/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: CDROM  at ata1-master PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a

-- i/f configuration:
ifconfig_xl0="DHCP"
ifconfig_xl1="inet 192.168.1.254  netmask 255.255.255.0"

-- sysctl settings:
net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
net.inet.ip.check_interface=1
net.inet.tcp.blackhole=2
net.inet.udp.blackhole=1
net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535
net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65535

-- firewall settings:
# External Interface
block out on xl0 all
block in log on xl0 all

pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep
frags keep state
pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep
frags keep state
pass in quick on xl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 23 flags S keep
frags keep state
pass in quick on xl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 

RE: Help with NV driver - More information part 2

2003-10-20 Thread Jason Dictos
Hers is my xf86config:
 Section "Module"
Load"dbe"   # Double buffer extension
SubSection  "extmod"
  Option"omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
Load"type1"
Load"speedo"
Load"freetype"
Load"xtt"

Load   "glx"
Load   "dri"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/artwiz-fonts"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
#Option "NoTrapSignals"
#Option "DontVTSwitch"
#Option "DontZap"
#Option "Dont Zoom"
#Option "DisableVidModeExtension"
#Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"
#Option "DisableModInDev"
#Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard1"
Driver  "Keyboard"
#Option "Protocol"  "Xqueue"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
#Option "Xleds"  "1 2 3"
#Option "LeftAlt" "Meta"
#Option "RightAlt""ModeShift"
#Option "XkbModel""pc102"
#Option "XkbModel""microsoft"
#Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#Option "XkbLayout"   "de"
#Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys"
#Option "XkbOptions"  "ctrl:swapcaps"
#Option "XkbRules""xfree86"
#Option "XkbModel""pc101"
#Option "XkbLayout"   "us"
#Option "XkbVariant"  ""
#Option "XkbOptions"  ""
Option "XkbDisable"
Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel"   "pc101"
Option "XkbLayout"  "us"
Option "XkbVariant" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse1"
Driver  "mouse"
#Option "Protocol"  "XQUEUE"
Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Buttons""3"
#Option "Resolution""256"
#Option "Protocol"  "Xqueue"
#Option "BaudRate"  "9600"
#Option "SampleRate""150"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons"
#Option "Emulate3Timeout""50"
#Option "ChordMiddle"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "NEC2080UX"
HorizSync   74.9
VertRefresh 59.9
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Standard VGA"
VendorName  "Unknown"
BoardName   "Unknown"
Driver  "nv"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "NVIDIA"
Driver  "nv"
#VideoRam131072
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Main"
Device  "NVIDIA"
Monitor "NEC2080UX"
DefaultDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1600x1200"
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Simple Layout"
Screen "Main"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection


And here is the log from the last start:

XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 [ELF] 
Build Date: 24 May 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 20 08:46:02 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
(==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Main" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "NEC2080UX"
(**) |   |-->Device "NVIDIA"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(WW) KEYBOARD: XKB should be disabled in the ServerFlags section instead
of in the "keyboard" InputDevice section.
(**) Option "XkbDisable"
(**) XKB: disabled
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/".
Entry deleted from font path.
(Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/").
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/us
r/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr
/X11R6/lib/X

RE: Help with NV driver - More information

2003-10-20 Thread Jason Dictos
I just noticed that if I connect the DVI cable to the second DVI port and
reboot the machine, when I start X it loads a screen full of garble (tons of
lines going everywhere) but when I check the monitors diag, it says it is at
1600x1200 70h 60v

Is anyone else using a Geforce ti 4600 Gainward Golden Sample (The only dual
DVI geforce I know of)?

-Jason 


-Original Message-
From: Jason Dictos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:35 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Hi,
 
I'm having difficulty getting the nv driver to work properly on my
FreeBSD 5.1 box. Recently, the nvidia driver started causing my kernel to
crash consistently, so I decided to move to the non-glx enabled NV driver.
Whenever that driver starts using the SAME config as the one used for the
nvidia driver, the screen goes blank with "unsupported resolution" but you
can hear the gui initializing in the background. I'm using the DVI port on
the Geforce (it has dual DVI), and I know for a fact that the horizontal and
vertical refresh rates are to the spec (74.9, 59.9 respectively). 

-Jason



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Help with NV driver

2003-10-20 Thread Jason Dictos
Hi,
 
I'm having difficulty getting the nv driver to work properly on
my FreeBSD 5.1 box. Recently, the nvidia driver started causing my
kernel to crash consistently, so I decided to move to the non-glx
enabled NV driver. Whenever that driver starts using the SAME config as
the one used for the nvidia driver, the screen goes blank with
"unsupported resolution" but you can hear the gui initializing in the
background. I'm using the DVI port on the Geforce (it has dual DVI),
and I know for a fact that the horizontal and vertical refresh rates are
to the spec (74.9, 59.9 respectively). 

-Jason



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Re: Upgrade to 4.8 RELEASE

2003-10-20 Thread Robert H. Perry

Hello,

I'm making plans to upgrade from 4.7 RELEASE to 4.8 RELEASE.  My 
previous attempt was a binary upgrade from 4.5 to 4.7 which did not go 
very well.  I eventually purchased the 4.7 CD.  

The FreeBSD Handbook stresses  backing up the system and implies that 
/dump/ is a better backup program.  Chapter 12.9.8.1 of  the handbook 
recommends having a copy of the boot and fixit floppies available and 
making sure they have all your devices, otherwise you'll need to prepare 
two bootable custom floppies  that contain /fdisk, disklabel, newfs, 
mount, /and your backup program.   It goes on to say that these programs 
must be statically linked.  I understand hard and soft links but I'm not 
familiar with static links.  The handbook also provides a script for 
creatinng a bootable floppy.
   

A static link is a firm link:) Seriously, static linking has nothing to
do with filesystem links. A statically linked program just uses no
shared libraries. AFAICT the programs in /stand (and /bin and /sbin) are
statically linked (note that those in /stand are also a "crunchbox",
that is, a single "monolithic" program which runs differently depending
on the name it was run as). You really have to mess with this only if
you are going to write your own program to run from a boot floppy.
You can use file(1) if you want to see if a program is staticlally linked:

$ file /usr/bin/find 
/usr/bin/find: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 4.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
$ file /stand/find 
/stand/find: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), for FreeBSD 4.8, statically linked, stripped

Thanks for the education Sergey.  This makes a lot more sense now.

I never prepared a boot floppy when I initially installed 4.7 so I 
thought the handbook was suggesting a necessary alternative (?).  If 
it's not absolutely necessary, I'll skip it. 

Any suggestions relative to the upgrade process is also appreciated.

In fact, a source update isn't as dangerous as you expect.

That's what I've heard and I suspect you're right.  However, AFAICT, 
past failures have usually come as a result of not following the 
handbook.  Maybe this floppy is a bit of overkill though.

Thanks again.

Bob

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Re: not updating XFree86 related stuff while performing portupgrade

2003-10-20 Thread Michael Lee(HINET)
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:04:20 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:31:49PM +0800, Michael Lee(HINET) wrote:
>
> > Now I know the way to manipulate the actions of portupgrade for not
> > upgrading everything.
> > I just posted earlier another question for portupgrade not being able to
> > upgrade
> > the installed apache-1.3.27_4 to apache-1.3.28
>
> You should just be able to 'pkg_delete -f apache-1.3.27_4' and then
> 'portinstall www/apache' and then run 'pkgdb -Fvu' and everything
> should be happy.
>

Yes it worked. Thank you.
There is one thing that I am not sure of. I read again an article in FreeBSD
Diary
http://www.freebsddiary.org/portupgrade.php
and it said that if I force it to pkg_delete a certain package that other
packages depend on,
there might be problems of broken dependencies.
I tried the way you teach me first then read the article and then I decided
to first uninstall them all
and do the portupgrade -N again from the begining.

After the whole installation process, pkg_version shows me that every
packages installed are consistent
to the port tree. ( and it is good to me )

Thank you again for your help.

Michael Lee

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Re: Hacking calendar(1)

2003-10-20 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 19 October 2003 at 16:13:09 -0500, Charles Howse wrote:
> Hi,
> When I get my daily calendar email, there is no explanation of which
> entries come from which calendars.
> Other than hacking the source code, is there a way to get some headers
> like this?
>
> Music History:
> Oct 20Three members of Lynyrd Skynyrd die in a plane crash, 1977
>
> World History:
> Blah blah blah
>
> Computer History:
> Blah blah blah

The daily calendar information comes from the script
/etc/periodic/daily/300.calendar.  It should be relatively
straightforward to change that script.

Greg
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Weirdness with permissions after mounting USB flash drive

2003-10-20 Thread Paul Murphy
usbd.conf snippet:

device "Flash Drive"
devname "umass0"
vendor 0x0ea0
product 0x2168
release 0x0200
attach "/sbin/mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /flash_drive"

permissions of '/flash_drive' before mounting:

drwxrwxrwx2 root  wheel  512 Oct 20 22:27 flash_drive


permissions of '/flash_drive' after mounting:

d-1 root  wheel22016 Dec 31  1979 flash_drive

(notice the date too!)


 I _can_ read/write to it as root, but I would really like to use it as
a non-root user. Any thoughts as to why this is happening?


[earth] /: usbdevs -v
Controller /dev/usb0:
addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x), VIA(0x), rev
1.00 port 1 powered
 port 2 addr 2: power 200 mA, config 1, Flash Disk  (0x2168), USB   
 (0x0ea0), rev 2.00

[earth] /: uname -a
FreeBSD earth.upton.net 4.9-RC FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Fri Oct 17 17:05:59
EDT 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EARTH_ACPI  i386

/var/log/messages snippet:

Oct 20 22:41:55 earth /kernel: umass0: USB  Flash Disk  , rev
2.00/2.00, addr 2 
Oct 20 22:41:55 earth /kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0
target 0 lun 0 
Oct 20 22:41:55 earth /kernel: da0:  Removable
Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
Oct 20 22:41:55 earth /kernel: da0: 650KB/s transfers 
Oct 20 22:41:55 earth /kernel: da0: 125MB (256000 512 byte sectors: 64H
32S/T 125C)


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Re: a few questions about rebuilding a system?

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Sweetleaf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1. Make world. is it really necessary to follow this step?
> 
> 21.4.2 Check /etc/make.conf

That step doesn't require you to actually change anything, so
obviously it's not really required.  Most people find it worth doing
for efficiency reasons, if nothing else, but it will certainly work in
any case.

> 2. If i update my src and ports via cvs, run make world and then install
> the binaries does this affect currently installed apps?

No.  If you want to rebuild those too, you'll need to do so separately.

> 3. rebuilding the kernel.  The handbook shows how to go into single user
> mode to run make world which works very well for me as the speed gained
> is a great increase. Is it ok to compile the kernel in this mode to or
> does the system need to be in multi-user mode? If its ok i think i would
> compile all my src from now on in single user mode if this is acceptable.
> Also is it ok to compile the kernel and other src with the -j4 option on
> a single proc. machine or is this only for buildworld?

For both questions, the answer is that it should be fine either way.
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Re: root passwd change

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
DanB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there other way to change the root password that been lost without
> shutting down the computer.

Other than hacking the password file, no.
At least, I hope not -- that would be a big security hole.
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Re: Monitor's picture position

2003-10-20 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 20 October 2003 at  0:30:13 +0400, CBuH wrote:
>
> I have two Os-es on one PC: Win & FreeBSD,
> in Win picture at resolution 1280x1024 is placed (by my hand's configure) in
> proper position (I mean each corner on my CRT monitor). Then -- in FreeBSD I
> see that in such resolution (and this configuration of monitor) the picture
> has moved to the right... I'm in doubghts what I _can_ do to solve this
> problem -- Is there any config tool to ``move'' the picture on the monitor?

First, of course, this is a relative question.  You can use your
monitor controls to position FreeBSD correctly, and then it will be
the Microsoft image which is wrong :-)

You can tune your X image with xvidtune.  Once you have the results,
you should feed the resultant mode line back into your XF86Config
file.

Greg
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Re: S-ATA disks

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
vipto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Could you say me, if *BSD systems support S-ATA disks and DVD+-RW
>   hardware (i cant find them in "Hardware Notes")?

S-ATA support has been going in on -CURRENT.  I think, but am not
sure, that they (or at least most of them) should work in standard ATA
mode on any version.

DVD writable media are supported under burncd, but again, I think a
lot of this has been going in under -CURRENT.
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Re: Noob FreeBSD 5.1 install question

2003-10-20 Thread Jud
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:22:07 -0400 (EDT), <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi All,
I am new to this list and new to freeBSD.  I run a Mandrake 9.1 server 
and
wish to convert to FreeBSD.  Here are 2 questions that I have.

A) I have reinstall freeBSD many times over and over.  I work with W2k
machine at work and do a Unattended install when I don't want to select
the same options over and over again on multiple machines.  Is there a 
way
I can create a install Config file to select all my options for me?  Is
there a way I can take a snapshot of the way the OS is currently
configured and make a Install Config File?  Maybe something that will 
auto
set my TimeZone, Partition / Slice sizes, just to get the Base OS
installed without any ports (except for maybe Lynx Text Web Browser)

B) after installing Various ports on the system, do I have to do a Make
Clean after each install or can I run Make Clean after installing all of
my required Ports?
Just as FYI I am running FreeBSD 5.1, I have downloaded and Burned the 2
ISO's (Full Install and Repair / Fix It) I run the install from the cd,
then I choose to NOT install the ports, download the 19.x meg file from
FreeBSD.org/ports and un Tar it into the /usr folder.
Thanks for any help you can provide.

John
A) Have a look at dump and restore.

B) Type 'make install clean' or use portupgrade.

Jud
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Re: Pentium 120 reboots after loading mfsroot floppy

2003-10-20 Thread Pete Renshaw
> > "Frederick Bowes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> I was hoping to try out FreeBSD on an old machine I have been given
> >> (Pentium 120, 514MB HD, 8mb ram) and it reboots after loading the 
> >> mfsroot
> >> floppy disk. You insert the disk, it goes /|\|/ for a while then 
> >> reboots.
> >>
> >> What might cause this problem?

I just had the same problem installing 5.1 on an intel D865GL motherboard with
2.4 celeron, two maxtor 120gb 133 hard drives with 133 adapter, 512 ecc
ram(should be non-ecc I think).  The floppy's didn't seem to have the bus
driver I needed so I used the 5.1 CD to set up.  User directories are on
separate drive.  I have had no problems for five days now.

Pete
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Re: Vinum Offset for Swap: 265 or 281?

2003-10-20 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 19 October 2003 at  0:42:38 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sanity check whether the mirrored vinum root drive is setup correctly.
> Going to setup two more machines the same way, so wanted to make sure the
> reference machine was setup correctly.
>
> Was surprised to see that the vinum dumpconfig shows the offset for the
> swap partition to be 265. Remember vaguely that it was supposed to be 281.
> Do I have a misconfigured machine? The bsdlabel reports the offset to be
> 281. The vinum.conf used driveoffset of 265s for swap - would think it
> should have been 281s.
>
> The machine works, but have had a couple of unexplained reboots. The
> mirrored drives are ad4s1 and ad8s1.

Vinum uses the first 265 sectors on a drive for configuration
information.  That has never changed.  It leaves the first 7 sectors
free for other stuff and puts the Vinum label in sector 8.
Unfortunately, this isn't compatible with bootstraps, which use
sectors 1 to 16.  The result is that if you put a Vinum drive exactly
at the beginning of a bootable disk, you will overwrite the bootstrap.
Thus the recommendation to put the drive at offset 16, so that nothing
will get clobbered.  This means that the first subdisk in the drive
will be at offset 281 from the beginning of the disk.  The offset of
the first subdisk in the drive remains the same at 265.  That's what
you have on your system:

>  b:   4194023  281  swap
>  h: 398283401   16 vinum

If you're having "reboots" (I suppose you mean panics or spontaneous
resets), it's almost certainly not because of the disk layout.  Follow
the instructions and we can probably find out what it is.  Note that
Vinum seems to be tickling bugs in -CURRENT ata code at the moment.

Greg
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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS (long)

2003-10-20 Thread Jud
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:45:48 -0400, Osmany Guirola Cruz 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


-Original Message-
From:   Jud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Mon 10/20/2003 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Osmany Guirola Cruz
Cc: freebsd-questions
Subject:Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

you might try FTP-ing the latest
ports collection.

Ok People i download the latest port.tar.gz
it includes the mozilla-firebird if i install it what could happen whit 
my system it needs xfree greater than i have installed
?what should i do? upgrade the entite syste?
OK, very good - you now have a very recent set of ports "skeletons" (the 
instructions to download the source for, compile, and install on your 
system any of over 9000 applications).

As you see, these ports have 'dependencies' (other ports they need), and 
upgrading a port sometimes means upgrading one or more dependencies.  
FreeBSD has an excellent application for managing port upgrades that will 
help you.  It is called (not surprisingly) 'portupgrade.'  Find it in the 
ports system (usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade) and install it.

Now, regarding your question whether you should upgrade your whole system: 
It is a good idea to keep your system up-to-date with your ports.  
However, the usual way to do this is with cvsup.  :(  (You should read 
about CTM, as Kris mentioned, in the Handbook online at the FreeBSD web 
site to determine whether you might be able to update using that method.)  
Therefore, you probably want to try installing the latest Mozilla-Firebird 
without updating your entire system.  To do this, after you have installed 
portupgrade and either rebooted or typed "rehash," type

# portupgrade -RN mozilla-firebird

If you get an error saying a dependency is already installed, you can try

# portupgrade -fRN mozilla-firebird

I have an alternative to suggest that may be quicker and easier, because 
building the latest mozilla-firebird from the port is a very long 
process.  Did you install Linux emulation when you installed FreeBSD?  If 
yes, then type

# portupgrade linux_base

If not, type

# portupgrade -RN linux_base

or

# portupgrade -RN linux_base-8

(As before, if you see an error that a dependency is already installed, 
try adding the -f option to portupgrade.)  Add the following line to your 
/etc/rc.conf file if it is not already there:

linux_enable="YES"

Then download the Mozilla-Firebird Linux binary from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firebird/releases/0.7/MozillaFirebird-0.7-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz>.  
Install the Linux binary, reboot, and you should have a working version of 
the latest Mozilla-Firebird on your system in much less time than if you 
compiled it from a port.

Jud

P.S.  Osmany, please type your replies at the bottom rather than the top 
of the messages to which you are replying, and try to make some kind of 
visual separation between the original message and your reply.  It makes 
everything much easier to read.
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portupgrade -arR problem

2003-10-20 Thread ivan georgiev
Hello,

I use 5-1p10. I do not know what happened but now I get:

-su-2.05b# portupgrade -arR
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:325:in `deorigin': failed 
to convert nil into String (PkgDB::DBError)
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:918:in `tsort_build'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:917:in `each'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:917:in `tsort_build'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:909:in `each'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:909:in `tsort_build'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:931:in `sort_build'
from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.6/pkgdb.rb:935:in `sort_build!'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:674:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `initialize'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `new'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `main'
from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1846

Can someone tell how to fix it. I tried "pkgdb -uf" but it doesn't 
help.

Ivan

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error in packet "Ierrs"

2003-10-20 Thread Your Name
Hi all

How can I verify the 3 in "Ierrs" coming from?

Thank you for your help

netstat -i
-- 
NameMtu Network   Address  Ipkts IerrsOpkts 
Oerrs  Coll
vr01500   00:0c:6e:93:14:8515569 3  253 
0 0
vr01500 24.100.96/24  route51498 -  
249 - -
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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:42:55PM -0400, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
>  I do cd to  /usr/ports/www/mozilla-firebird and these port does not exist
>  I can do cvsup due to restrictions on my FIREWALL

I already told you how to get around this..see my earlier mail.

Kris


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Re: 5406 warnings during buildworld & other q's

2003-10-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 06:38:18PM +0100, David Carter-Hitchin wrote:

> > d) installworld failed the first time as the user 'smmsp' didn't
> > exist.  I dutifully followed the advice given in UPGRADE by building
> > and running mergemaster.  Second run of installworld also failed - at
> > mergemaster, saying "Don't know how to build mergemaster.sh".  I'm not
> > sure if I did the right thing, but copying  /usr/sbin/mergemaster to the
> > source directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster and renaming it to
> > mergemaster.sh, fixed the problem.  Can anyone comment on this?
> 
> = It looks like your buildworld didn't complete before you tried to
> = installworld it.
> 
> As far as the process is concerned it definitely completed, and I grepped
> for errors and found none in the logfile.  The last thing buidlworld
> logged was:
> 
> chmod 444 freebsd.submit.cf
> 
> Having done this for the first time, I don't know what the last line
> should be.  Does it say "buildworld complete"?

I forgot you're upgrading from an old version of FreeBSD..it could be
related to your other bootstrapping problems.

Kris


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Re: thunderbird 0.3 wont compile

2003-10-20 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 18:59, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I am using FBSD-4.8 STABLE with ports upgraded to the latest as I am 
> writing. I compiled firebird 0.7 with no problem, thunderbird 0.2 is 
> installed, but I can't upgrade it to 0.3 because:
> ../../../dist/include/string/nsBufferHandle.h:388: See 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html> for instructions.
> gmake[4]: *** [nsDocumentEncoder.o] Error 1
> gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
> `/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla/content/base/src'
> gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
> gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
> `/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla/content/base'
> gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
> gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
> `/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla/content'
> gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
> gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
> `/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla'
> gmake: *** [default] Error 2
> *** Error code 2
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird.
> 
> Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks.

Not enough information to go on here, but I bet you're using
non-standard CFLAGS.  Try reducing your optimization level, and try the
build again.  Alternatively, if this is a P4, you may be experiencing
data corruption caused by an active PSE instruction.  This was fixed in
4.9-RC.  It could also be bad hardware.

Joe

> 
> Regards,
> Alin.
> 
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Re: I upgraded from CVSup: did I get a -stable branch ?

2003-10-20 Thread Johan Hendriks
If you installed 4.5 and want to stay that way use :
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_5

This way you stay at the release engenering stream!

Succes

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:38 AM
Subject: I upgraded from CVSup: did I get a -stable branch ?


>
> Hi,
>
> just a question for a doubt I have:I updated the src tree via cvsup using
> the file included below.According to some BSD literature (not found in the
handbook),
> by using the 'RELENG_4' tag in the supfile, I will get the source tree for
the latest
> -STABLE branch, and that is what I wanted.I CVSuped,the I recompiled the
source tree
> and the kernel,according to the FreeBSD Handbook instructions.
> All went OK.This is the output from the 'uname -a' command after the
process:
>
> FreeBSD ciao.singles.it 4.9-RC FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Wed Oct 15 00:12:26 CEST
2003 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CURRENT_WINE  i386
>
> I have two questions:
> 1)looking at the output of 'uname', is this a STABLE version of FreeBSD
(as I would expect) ?
> 2)if I wanted, for example, 4.5 stable, or instead 4.3 stable, which
options should I put in the supfile ?
>
> Thank you very much.
> Bruno
>
> THE SUPFILE:
> --

> # $FreeBSD: /root/cvsup/stable-supfile,v 1.19.2.4 2000/08/18 18:50:21 jkh
Exp $
> #
> *default host=cvsup10.FreeBSD.org
> *default base=/usr
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
>
> *default compress
>
> ## Main Source Tree.
> src-all
> --

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Re: Virtual Console Keyboard Layout

2003-10-20 Thread Rommel B. IKEDA
Thank you very much for the reply.
I was not only ABLE to configure my proper Keyboard Layout for my 
virtual consoles...I was also ABLE to FINALLY compile my FIRST KERNEL...
Thank you...
Actually, the compilation was the most challenging and interesting not 
to mention that I have been preparing so much in HOW TO compile my 
kernel...Failed at my FIRST try though...but succeeded on the second 
try...FreeBSD Handbook is the BEST!

Rommel B. Ikeda

Lowell Gilbert wrote:

"Rommel B. IKEDA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

My shell is the default Bourne Shell...can anyone help or give me
advice on where to search in the man pages about setting my virtual
console keyboard layout to 105...
   

man kbdcontrol
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Re: Sent and Email but did'nt get my copy

2003-10-20 Thread Rommel B. IKEDA
Yesterday, the Email that I sent appeared in the mailing list after I 
sent an Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this Email...I was able to 
cancel the Email that I sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I am sorry for not 
being a little patient...
Anyway, thank you very much for your reply.

Rommel B. Ikeda

Matthew Seaman wrote:

On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:52:03AM +0900, Rommel B. IKEDA wrote:

 

Almost an hour or so ago...I sent an Email to 
freebsd-questions.org...asking for advice...BUT, I did not get my copy...

I was just wondering where did it go...
I did check if I am still a subscriber to this list and I am still...
Since, I read somewhere, I was not suppose to send my Emails twice...I 
am now sending this Email just to check...

Sorry for wasting your time...I did not mean to...just worried...
   

Since the switch to mailman as the list management software it has
been possible to opt not to receive your own posts to any lists.
That's not the default as far as I know.  It's also possible that your
message may have got held up in the workings of the FreeBSD mail
system: it seems that this morning a number of such apparently lost
messages have suddenly turned up in the lists.  In any case, if you go
to
   http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions

you'll be able to log in and check your settings.  You can also check
the list archives at the same site:
   http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/

to see if your message made it to the list, so long as you wait 24h
after posting.
	Cheers,

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Re: I upgraded from CVSup: did I get a -stable branch ?

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chris Readle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_5
> or:
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3
> 
> respectively.  Those tags will also get any future security updates to
> either of those versions as well.

Maybe.  Nobody's promising to support them, but many updates get put
onto those branches anyway.
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Re: Odd network interface (PCMCIA) problem; going insane

2003-10-20 Thread Heath Volmer
When in doubt, check for updates...

After about twenty hours of messing with this, I decided to check for an
update.  I was running 5.0; downloaded 5.1: Viola!  Everything is good.  I
was sure that the problem was in FreeBSD and I guess it was.

Thanks for the reply.
Heath



On 10/20/03 7:03 AM, "Lowell Gilbert"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Heath Volmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> The problem: My PCMCIA network interface (Linksys PCM100) doesn't seems to
>> work - SORT OF.  This is odd.  I can get online okay, use Mozilla to browse
>> the web, but when I fire up sshd or apache or any other kind of server they
>> don't seem to be accessible from the machines sitting right next to it on
>> the desk.
>> 
>> The BSD machine is @ 10.0.0.3, have a mac @ .2, XP @ .4.
>> 
>> Subnets are fine.
>> 
>> I can't ssh, telnet, ftp or even ping!! .3 from .2 or .4.
>> 
>> When I ping FROM .3 to any another, I get some strange dup responses.  This
>> only happens on this machine.
>> 
>> I CAN ping to .3 from .3.  This makes sense.
>> 
>> Have tried direct x-over cable connection between machines.  No good.
>> 
>> Have removed card and installed in XP machine.  Good.
>> 
>> Have reinstalled FBSD.  No luck.
>> 
>> In order to confirm that the machine is okay, I reloaded win2K clean over
>> the BSD.  Good!
>> 
>> The PCM100 is listed in the pccard.conf file (I think that's it's name.)  I
>> do not see any reference to it in dmesg.
>> 
>> I swear this worked at one point.  Any suggestions?
> 
> This sounds like some sort of cabling problem (at least from the
> router's point of view).  What does the physical topology (connections
> between machines/routers/bridges) look like?

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Noob FreeBSD 5.1 install question

2003-10-20 Thread whizkid
Hi All,
I am new to this list and new to freeBSD.  I run a Mandrake 9.1 server and
wish to convert to FreeBSD.  Here are 2 questions that I have.

A) I have reinstall freeBSD many times over and over.  I work with W2k
machine at work and do a Unattended install when I don't want to select
the same options over and over again on multiple machines.  Is there a way
I can create a install Config file to select all my options for me?  Is
there a way I can take a snapshot of the way the OS is currently
configured and make a Install Config File?  Maybe something that will auto
set my TimeZone, Partition / Slice sizes, just to get the Base OS
installed without any ports (except for maybe Lynx Text Web Browser)

B) after installing Various ports on the system, do I have to do a Make
Clean after each install or can I run Make Clean after installing all of
my required Ports?

Just as FYI I am running FreeBSD 5.1, I have downloaded and Burned the 2
ISO's (Full Install and Repair / Fix It) I run the install from the cd,
then I choose to NOT install the ports, download the 19.x meg file from
FreeBSD.org/ports and un Tar it into the /usr folder.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

John
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Re: weird KDE alt-tab problem

2003-10-20 Thread JacobRhoden

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:28 am, David Gerard wrote:
> Every now and then, I press alt-tab to go between applications
> in KDE 3, and it goes into a strange mode: I press alt, hold and
> press tab, and the window menu comes up ... I press alt again
> and it actually goes to the next window.

> 1. What is happening?
Dont know..

> 2. How did it get there?
Dont know (Well actually, it got there by pressing alt tab)

> 3. What can I do to get out of it without just restarting KDE?
Why would you restart kde? I just use alt tab a few times and it goes away 
again (:

_
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Re: GTK

2003-10-20 Thread Andrew Kozak
Hi All

Thank You very much to C Ulrich and Sergey 'Double F' Zaharchen for your
help with my GTK problem. Unfortunately I think that  C Ulrich is right in
that I will have to install again from scratch. Unfortunately reinstalling
GTK, gettext etc. has not helped. Ohh well, practice make perfect, and
Sergey, you have started something now, what on earth does 'In the words of
M. Bulghakov, "Annushkauzhe razlila maslo..."' mean ? Thank you both so much
for using terms I can understand, and although it seems I cannot repair the
problem, I have learnt a valuable lesson, and picked up a couple of tips
along the way :) I definitely do intend to read a great deal more about
FreeBSD, I just have trouble finding time (work 60+ hours a week, new Dad
etc.) so I guess I will just take a little longer than some :) But I'll get
there !!

Thanks Again
Andrew Kozak
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Re: How to get out of Africa?

2003-10-20 Thread mpd
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:24:51PM +, Wayne M Barnes wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD,
> 
>During installation, I accidentally hit Africa for my timezone.
> 
>I have looked all over the documentation, and I cannot find
> out to reset my time zone.
> 
>Does anybody else know?  I installed 5.1 from the CD.
> 
>Thank you,
> 
>  Wayne

tzsetup

mike
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Re: How to get out of Africa?

2003-10-20 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:24:51PM +, Wayne M Barnes wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD,
> 
>During installation, I accidentally hit Africa for my timezone.
> 
>I have looked all over the documentation, and I cannot find
> out to reset my time zone.
> 
>Does anybody else know?  I installed 5.1 from the CD.

Running the tzsetup(8) utility might prove to be useful.
('man -k timezone' is useful for finding out what commands might be
useful for this purpose.)

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Re: How to get out of Africa?

2003-10-20 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:24:51PM +, Wayne M Barnes wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD,
> 
>During installation, I accidentally hit Africa for my timezone.
> 
>I have looked all over the documentation, and I cannot find
> out to reset my time zone.
> 
>Does anybody else know?  I installed 5.1 from the CD.
> 

You can reenter the same tool be typing /stand/sysinstall. Go to
configuration section. This should do it.

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Setting time zones (was: How to get out of Africa?)

2003-10-20 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 21 October 2003 at 18:24:51 +, Wayne M Barnes wrote:
> Dear FreeBSD,
>
>During installation, I accidentally hit Africa for my timezone.
>
>I have looked all over the documentation, and I cannot find
> out to reset my time zone.
>
>Does anybody else know?  I installed 5.1 from the CD.

Find the appropriate time zone file in the hierarchy
/usr/share/zoneinfo and copy it to /etc/localtime.

Greg
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`atacontrol enclosure` does not work (ioctl(ATAENCSTAT): Device not configured)

2003-10-20 Thread Constantine
Hello.

It just does not seem to work. How do I fix that?

cnst# whoami
root
cnst# atacontrol enclosure 0 0
atacontrol: ioctl(ATAENCSTAT): Device not configured
cnst# uname -r
4.8-RELEASE
Cheers,
Constantine.
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RE: HP Deskjet 5150

2003-10-20 Thread Derrick Ryalls

> 
> I really need to know if my HP Deskjet 5150 works with 
> freebsd, if not, i have to change it in 3 days, please help me!
> 
> I've configured cups like it said in www.freebsddiary.org, 
> with a difference, i dont have a compatible browser to 

What browser are you trying?  I have had success with IE and Opera.  You
will need to change 2 places in the cups.conf file to access the web config
from anywhere but localhost.

> adminsistrate cups, so i do these to add my printer in the server:
> 
> /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p DeskJet -E -v usb:/dev/ulpt0 -m 
> deskjet.ppd (is this correct?)
> 

I don't know, I have only used the web utility.  Anything helpful appear in
the logs?  Is the daemon running?

> is this correct?! and when i access to CUPS with workstation 
> i see the printer, but i can't print anything, neither from 
> the server or from the workstation!!!
> 

Once you can print via CUPS, if you share it out via samba, on the client
end you will need to add it like so:

1) Add new printer
2) Local Printer (not remote)
3) Specify new port
4) Dialog comes up, specify printer (i.e. \\printserver\PrintShare)

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How to get out of Africa?

2003-10-20 Thread Wayne M Barnes
Dear FreeBSD,

   During installation, I accidentally hit Africa for my timezone.

   I have looked all over the documentation, and I cannot find
out to reset my time zone.

   Does anybody else know?  I installed 5.1 from the CD.

   Thank you,

 Wayne
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Re: I upgraded from CVSup: did I get a -stable branch ?

2003-10-20 Thread Chris Readle
--- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FreeBSD ciao.singles.it 4.9-RC FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Wed Oct 15 00:12:26
> CEST 2003 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CURRENT_WINE  i386
> 
> I have two questions:
> 1)looking at the output of 'uname', is this a STABLE version of FreeBSD
> (as I would expect) ?

Yes this is the -STABLE branch.  It just happens that at the present
moment 4.9-STABLE is a release candidate, which is why you see 4.9-RC. 
Once it's released then it will be 4.9-RELEASE and they'll increment
-STABLE to 4.9.1 (or would it go to 4.10?).

> 2)if I wanted, for example, 4.5 stable, or instead 4.3 stable, which
> options should I put in the supfile ?

Change the "default release" line in the sup file from:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4

to:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_5
or:
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3

respectively.  Those tags will also get any future security updates to
either of those versions as well.

> 
> Thank you very much.
> Bruno

You are quite welcome,

chris


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thunderbird 0.3 wont compile

2003-10-20 Thread Alin-Adrian Anton
Hi guys,

I am using FBSD-4.8 STABLE with ports upgraded to the latest as I am 
writing. I compiled firebird 0.7 with no problem, thunderbird 0.2 is 
installed, but I can't upgrade it to 0.3 because:
../../../dist/include/string/nsBufferHandle.h:388: See 
http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html> for instructions.
gmake[4]: *** [nsDocumentEncoder.o] Error 1
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla/content/base/src'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla/content/base'
gmake[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla/content'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_9] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird/work/mozilla'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mozilla-thunderbird.

Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks.

Regards,
Alin.
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Re: 5406 warnings during buildworld & other q's

2003-10-20 Thread David Carter-Hitchin
Hi Kris,

Thanks for replying...  

> d) installworld failed the first time as the user 'smmsp' didn't
> exist.  I dutifully followed the advice given in UPGRADE by building
> and running mergemaster.  Second run of installworld also failed - at
> mergemaster, saying "Don't know how to build mergemaster.sh".  I'm not
> sure if I did the right thing, but copying  /usr/sbin/mergemaster to the
> source directory /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster and renaming it to
> mergemaster.sh, fixed the problem.  Can anyone comment on this?

= It looks like your buildworld didn't complete before you tried to
= installworld it.

As far as the process is concerned it definitely completed, and I grepped
for errors and found none in the logfile.  The last thing buidlworld
logged was:

chmod 444 freebsd.submit.cf

Having done this for the first time, I don't know what the last line
should be.  Does it say "buildworld complete"?

> I checked the timestamp on both ld-elf.so.1 and libm.so.2 and they were
> built today - anyone know what might have caused this?  Do I need to
> rebuild cvsup, if so how?

= This is explained in UPDATING.

Ah yes... thanks.  

> Readme.html's.  Is that a bug? 

= No, you told cvsup to delete your ports collection (the ports tree is
= not branched).  This is also explained in the handbook.

DOOF! Won't be doing that again in a hurry.

Thanks,
David

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RE: IPFW Antics

2003-10-20 Thread Tyler McGeorge
Fortunately for you, natd offers DCC forwarding support without mapping
ports.
Take a gander at `man natd` and pay particular attention to -punch_fw

Tyler McGeorge
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Hey-
I am trying to run an IRC file server inside my network that is protected by
a FreeBSD box that is running natd.  I am running natd with the following
options to enable IP forwarding to allow people to request files from my
file server (192.168.0.101):

/sbin/natd -f /etc/natd.conf -redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.101:-7000
-7000 -n ep1

Unfortunately, it appears that the natd box is not forwarding the incoming
request packets correctly.  Can anyone provide some insight on this?  Thanks
in advance.

-ts

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I upgraded from CVSup: did I get a -stable branch ?

2003-10-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

just a question for a doubt I have:I updated the src tree via cvsup using
the file included below.According to some BSD literature (not found in the handbook),
by using the 'RELENG_4' tag in the supfile, I will get the source tree for the latest 
-STABLE branch, and that is what I wanted.I CVSuped,the I recompiled the source tree 
and the kernel,according to the FreeBSD Handbook instructions.
All went OK.This is the output from the 'uname -a' command after the process:

FreeBSD ciao.singles.it 4.9-RC FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Wed Oct 15 00:12:26 CEST 2003 
root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CURRENT_WINE  i386

I have two questions:
1)looking at the output of 'uname', is this a STABLE version of FreeBSD (as I would 
expect) ?
2)if I wanted, for example, 4.5 stable, or instead 4.3 stable, which options should I 
put in the supfile ?

Thank you very much.
Bruno

THE SUPFILE:
--
# $FreeBSD: /root/cvsup/stable-supfile,v 1.19.2.4 2000/08/18 18:50:21 jkh Exp $
#
*default host=cvsup10.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4
*default delete use-rel-suffix

*default compress

## Main Source Tree.
src-all
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weird KDE alt-tab problem

2003-10-20 Thread David Gerard
Every now and then, I press alt-tab to go between applications
in KDE 3, and it goes into a strange mode: I press alt, hold and
press tab, and the window menu comes up ... I press alt again
and it actually goes to the next window.
1. What is happening?
2. How did it get there?
3. What can I do to get out of it without just restarting KDE?
- d.



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Re: Hacking calendar(1) - SOLVED

2003-10-20 Thread Charles Howse
>> When I get my daily calendar email, there is no explanation of which
>> entries come from which calendars.
>> Other than hacking the source code, is there a way to get some
headers
>> like this? 
>> 
>> Music History:
>> Oct 20  Three members of Lynyrd Skynyrd die in a plane crash, 1977
>> 
>> World History:
>> Blah blah blah
>> 
>> Computer History:
>> Blah blah blah
>
> Not really.
> The only cheap-and-easy hack I can think of is to modify (each line
> of) the calendar files themselves.

I found an old post by Greg Lehey that I have modified.
I run it from cron at midnight every day.
It's working great so far!
Comments, suggestions?

-
#!/usr/local/bin/bash
#
# Go through the calendars and find out what happened today.

dir=/usr/share/calendar
file=/root/today_cal

if [ -a $file ] ; then
rm $file
fi

if [ -n "`/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.birthday`" ] ; then
echo "Birthdays:" >> $file
/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.birthday >> $file
echo >> $file
fi

if [ -n "`/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.christian`" ] ; then
echo "Christian:" >> $file
/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.christian >> $file
echo >> $file
fi

if [ -n "`/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.computer`" ] ;then
echo "Computer:" >> $file
/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.computer >> $file
echo >> $file
fi

if [ -n "`/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.music`" ] ; then
echo "Music:" >> $file
/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.music >> $file
echo >> $file
fi

if [ -n "`/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.usholiday`" ] ; then
echo "U.S. Holidays:" >> $file
/usr/bin/calendar -f $dir/calendar.usholiday >> $file
fi

cat $file | mail -s "Today's Calendar" charles
-

Output of today's email:

Birthdays:
Oct 21  Alfred Nobel born in Stockholm, 1833

Computer:
Oct 20  Zurich ALGOL report published, 1958

Music:
Oct 20  Three members of Lynyrd Skynyrd die in a plane crash, 1977



Thanks,
Charles

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RE: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
Ok People i download the latest port.tar.gz
it includes the mozilla-firebird if i install it what could happen whit my system it 
needs xfree greater than i have installed 
?what should i do? upgrade the entite syste? 


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Osmany Guirola Cruz
Cc: freebsd-questions
Subject:Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

On 20 Oct 2003 13:25:49 -0400, "Mailing Lists Catcher"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> There is no port for 5.x that I can find so updating your ports tree
> wont do much good.
> 
> You can try downloading the package for 4-stable or wait for it to
> appear for 5.x.  I am not certain what would happen if you downloaded
> the package for 4-stable and tried pgk_adddo this at your own risk.
> 
> Jason Cribbins
> 
> On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:27, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
> >  I have 5.1 Realease and i want install mozilla-firebird, but in these realease 
> > don exist, what can ido?
> > i found the package  for the 4.8-Stable and can  not install it due to 
> > dependencies whit gettext xfree_libraries . Waht should i do? How can i update 
> > my ports collection ? AHH very important I CAN NOT CVSUP
> > Thanks

[Sigh] Don't believe everything you read.  The ports are the same for 4.x
and 5.x.

Do you have the ports collection (the /usr/ports directory and contents)
in your version of 5.1-RELEASE?  If so, you can cd to
/usr/ports/www/mozilla-firebird and type 'make install clean' (no
quotes).  That should get you version 0.6, I believe.

Why are you unable to cvsup?  If it is because you don't have the cvsup
application installed, see if you can download and install the package
for it (I'd recommend choosing the cvsup-without-gui package; you can
also install cvsup using the port, but that takes a very long time
downloading, compiling and installing Modula-3).  Once you have cvsup
installed, you can use it to install/update the ports collection.  If you
cannot use cvsup for some other reason, you might try FTP-ing the latest
ports collection.  (Since I am behind a firewall without FTP access ATM,
can someone tell us whether there is an FTP-able ports collection with
version 0.7 of Mozilla-Firebird?)

Jud





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Re: STrange network problem

2003-10-20 Thread Steve Hovey

You show 167 as a broadcast on the first IP line then try to use it also
as an available ip


On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Rus Foster wrote:

> Hi All,
> I've just tried to bring up a new IP alias and am having trouble using it
> 
> Currently
> 
> ls512# ifconfig -a
> vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> inet 63.247.81.162 netmask 0xfff8 broadcast 63.247.81.167
> inet6 fe80::230:1bff:fe37:fb48%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> inet 63.247.81.163 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.163
> inet 63.247.81.164 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.164
> inet 63.247.81.165 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.165
> inet 63.247.81.166 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.166
> inet 63.247.81.167 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.167
> ether 00:30:1b:37:fb:48
> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
> status: active
> lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500
> faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500
> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500
> sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552
> ls512# ping 63.247.81.167
> PING 63.247.81.167 (63.247.81.167): 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
> ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
> ^C
> --- 63.247.81.167 ping statistics ---
> 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
> 
> but ...
> 
> ls512# ping 63.247.81.166
> PING 63.247.81.166 (63.247.81.166): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 63.247.81.166: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.048 ms
> 64 bytes from 63.247.81.166: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.031 ms
> ^C
> --- 63.247.81.166 ping statistics ---
> 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.031/0.040/0.048/0.009 ms
> 
> ls512# netstat -rn
> Routing tables
> 
> Internet:
> DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
> default63.247.81.161  UGSc   9891635vr0
> 63.247.81.160/29   link#1 UC  10vr0
> 63.247.81.161  00:0a:8a:f2:e1:00  UHLW   950vr0   1188
> 63.247.81.163  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW231131lo0 =>
> 63.247.81.163/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
> 63.247.81.164  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW268201lo0 =>
> 63.247.81.164/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
> 63.247.81.165  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW2 2336lo0 =>
> 63.247.81.165/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
> 63.247.81.166  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW04lo0 =>
> 63.247.81.166/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
> 63.247.81.167  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLWb   0   27lo0 =>
> 63.247.81.167/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
> 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1  UH  0   48lo0
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Nothing in dmesg
> Nothing in /var/log/messages
> 
> rus
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Re: Oracle client question

2003-10-20 Thread S H A N
hi,

Port:   oracle7-client-0.02
Port:   p5-DBD-Oracle-1.14

all you need to connect to oracle7/8/8i databases (and may be 9 also try your luck)

rgds,

S H A N


On Tue Oct 21, 2003 at 03:07:00AM SGT, Louis LeBlanc wrote:

> Hey all.  I'm sure this has been asked a few times, but I've not found
> the answer to my specific question regarding Oracle on FreeBSD.
> 
> Here goes:  I don't need to run the Oracle server on FreeBSD, so I'm
> not above simply copying in the headers and libraries by hand.  So the
> installation procedure is NOT necessary.  The handbook and FAQ do not
> discuss actually *linking* linux specific libraries.
> 
> Here's the real question:  Is anyone out there linking CLIENT
> applications that successfully connect to a separate Oracle server?
> 
> If this can be done easily enough, then I may be porting a very high
> volume network application (500+ HTTP transactions/sec on a base
> Netra running Solaris8) to FreeBSD 5.x.  The problem is that I am
> inextricably tied to Oracle.
> 
> If anyone has had any experience in this area, I'd certainly
> appreciate some pointers.  I'd also appreciate knowing if anyone has
> actually built an Oracle client on Linux and run it on FreeBSD.
> 
> And no, I don't believe Linux is being considered as an actual runtime
> platform option.
> 
> TIA
> Lou
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Re: STrange network problem

2003-10-20 Thread Wes Zuber
Hi Rus, looks like you added an alias beyond the usable range. inet 
63.247.81.167 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.167 is your 
broadcast.

--WEs

On Oct 20, 2003, at 12:43 PM, Rus Foster wrote:

Hi All,
I've just tried to bring up a new IP alias and am having trouble using 
it

Currently

ls512# ifconfig -a
vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
inet 63.247.81.162 netmask 0xfff8 broadcast 63.247.81.167
inet6 fe80::230:1bff:fe37:fb48%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet 63.247.81.163 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.163
inet 63.247.81.164 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.164
inet 63.247.81.165 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.165
inet 63.247.81.166 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.166
inet 63.247.81.167 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.167
ether 00:30:1b:37:fb:48
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
status: active
lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500
faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500
sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552
ls512# ping 63.247.81.167
PING 63.247.81.167 (63.247.81.167): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
^C
--- 63.247.81.167 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
but ...

ls512# ping 63.247.81.166
PING 63.247.81.166 (63.247.81.166): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 63.247.81.166: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.048 ms
64 bytes from 63.247.81.166: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.031 ms
^C
--- 63.247.81.166 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.031/0.040/0.048/0.009 ms
ls512# netstat -rn
Routing tables
Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif 
Expire
default63.247.81.161  UGSc   9891635vr0
63.247.81.160/29   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.161  00:0a:8a:f2:e1:00  UHLW   950vr0   
1188
63.247.81.163  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW231131lo0 =>
63.247.81.163/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.164  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW268201lo0 =>
63.247.81.164/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.165  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW2 2336lo0 =>
63.247.81.165/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.166  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW04lo0 =>
63.247.81.166/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.167  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLWb   0   27lo0 =>
63.247.81.167/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1  UH  0   48lo0

Any ideas?

Nothing in dmesg
Nothing in /var/log/messages
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STrange network problem

2003-10-20 Thread Rus Foster
Hi All,
I've just tried to bring up a new IP alias and am having trouble using it

Currently

ls512# ifconfig -a
vr0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
inet 63.247.81.162 netmask 0xfff8 broadcast 63.247.81.167
inet6 fe80::230:1bff:fe37:fb48%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
inet 63.247.81.163 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.163
inet 63.247.81.164 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.164
inet 63.247.81.165 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.165
inet 63.247.81.166 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.166
inet 63.247.81.167 netmask 0x broadcast 63.247.81.167
ether 00:30:1b:37:fb:48
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX )
status: active
lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500
faith0: flags=8002 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500
sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552
ls512# ping 63.247.81.167
PING 63.247.81.167 (63.247.81.167): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
ping: sendto: Can't assign requested address
^C
--- 63.247.81.167 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

but ...

ls512# ping 63.247.81.166
PING 63.247.81.166 (63.247.81.166): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 63.247.81.166: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.048 ms
64 bytes from 63.247.81.166: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.031 ms
^C
--- 63.247.81.166 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.031/0.040/0.048/0.009 ms

ls512# netstat -rn
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default63.247.81.161  UGSc   9891635vr0
63.247.81.160/29   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.161  00:0a:8a:f2:e1:00  UHLW   950vr0   1188
63.247.81.163  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW231131lo0 =>
63.247.81.163/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.164  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW268201lo0 =>
63.247.81.164/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.165  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW2 2336lo0 =>
63.247.81.165/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.166  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLW04lo0 =>
63.247.81.166/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
63.247.81.167  00:30:1b:37:fb:48  UHLWb   0   27lo0 =>
63.247.81.167/32   link#1 UC  10vr0
127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1  UH  0   48lo0

Any ideas?

Nothing in dmesg
Nothing in /var/log/messages

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Re: Any ideas on X freezing up with NVIDIA drivers?

2003-10-20 Thread Chris Readle
Fellow newb here, but I've also been working on X issues with my GForceFX
in Linux *and* FBSD so I might (and I stress might) be able to help.

First things first, can you post your /etc/X11/XF86Config file?

Are you using *dm (xdm, kdm, gdm, etc) or are you booting to CLI and doing
startx?  I've had more issues with kdm and my FX than with CLI + startx.

As for AGP and kernel config, I've gotten mine working with AGP in the
kernel and compiled with no optimizations other than CPUTYPE.

Once I get a look at your files (and compare them to mine at home) I might
have some more suggestions.

chris

--- Don Whitteker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all and thank you in advance...first off I am
> still a bit of a
> newbie with FreeBSD (and *NIX in general) but am
> learning more every
> day = ) I hope I got this on the correct list but feel
> free to point
> me in the right direction if I did not
> 
> OK...here's the problem. I have an A7N8X board
> (deluxe) and am trying
> to use the nvidia driver with my GeForceFX. I've
> installed 5.1-Release
> (I tries 4.8 too but the 5.1 just seemed to flow
> better with me) and
> have ACPI turned off in my BIOS and in FBSD. However
> no matter what I
> do all I seem to be able to get when I start up X is
> the nvidia logo.
> I lose all keyboard function and thus have to do a
> hard reboot. I have
> been working on this particular little problem for a
> number of weeks
> now to no avail. I have searched any relevant docs I
> could find
> (nvidia, handbook,XFree86 site, nforce2 site) to no
> avail. I have
> googles so much I have trouble remembering which
> keyword combination I
> used to get to a particular page. Basically I am
> clueless on what to
> try next. I have tried make setup with the
> WITH_FREEBSD_AGP with agp
> in the kernel, tried the WITH_FREEBSD_AGP with it not
> in the kernel
> but as a module, I have tried with no agp in kernel or
> agp.ko and
> using the cards AGPGART. I have even tried
> combinations between them.
> I have compiled and recompiled with optimizations
> (-march=athlon-xp
> CHFLAGS= -o -pipe) and without but nothing seems to
> change.
> 
> The only errors I am getting in my XFree86.0.log is a
> couple of
> warnings about some resolution I don't use anyway not
> working with my
> monitor and of course it not being able to verify AGP
> usage when I am
> using freebsd's agpgart. Other than that everything
> looks peachy keen.
> Everything works fine with "nv"
> 
> Looking back I probably would not have gotten such a
> problematic
> chipset if I had known I was going to be giving up
> windows and moving
> to something a little more fun = )...btw besides the
> whole video
> driver thing I am loving this OS.
> 
> oh yeahif you need me to post my dmesg or config
> file or log or
> anything just let me know
> 
> = )
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Oracle client question

2003-10-20 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Hey all.  I'm sure this has been asked a few times, but I've not found
the answer to my specific question regarding Oracle on FreeBSD.

Here goes:  I don't need to run the Oracle server on FreeBSD, so I'm
not above simply copying in the headers and libraries by hand.  So the
installation procedure is NOT necessary.  The handbook and FAQ do not
discuss actually *linking* linux specific libraries.

Here's the real question:  Is anyone out there linking CLIENT
applications that successfully connect to a separate Oracle server?

If this can be done easily enough, then I may be porting a very high
volume network application (500+ HTTP transactions/sec on a base
Netra running Solaris8) to FreeBSD 5.x.  The problem is that I am
inextricably tied to Oracle.

If anyone has had any experience in this area, I'd certainly
appreciate some pointers.  I'd also appreciate knowing if anyone has
actually built an Oracle client on Linux and run it on FreeBSD.

And no, I don't believe Linux is being considered as an actual runtime
platform option.

TIA
Lou
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Re: Virtual Console Keyboard Layout

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Rommel B. IKEDA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My shell is the default Bourne Shell...can anyone help or give me
> advice on where to search in the man pages about setting my virtual
> console keyboard layout to 105...

man kbdcontrol
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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Eric Pogroski
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 13:38:03 -0400
Osmany Guirola Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can not use cvsup due to restrictions on my network and i need to do updates of my 
> ports. 
> how and what can i do?

can you ftp? or use a browser (relatively) freely? If so, go here:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz
untar it to your /usr directory, and you'll have a only slightly out-of-sync ports 
tree.

or you could attempt to tell cvsup to use alternate ports.

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Re: GTK

2003-10-20 Thread C. Ulrich
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 03:53, Andrew Kozak wrote:
> From: Andrew Kozak
> Date: Monday, 20 October 2003 05:42:11 PM
> To: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: GTK
>  
>   
> Hi Everyone
>  
> Hope someone can help me here, I've kinda stuffed up big time. Whilst trying
> to install etherape, I received a message that my gtk was too old, and that
> I should uninstall it and install the new one. Which I did. Immediately
> afterwards, I found that quite a few programs rely on this older version of
> gtk I have lost all web browsers other than knoqueror (missing dillo, what a
> nice efficient fast little browser that is). I am using FreeBSD 4.9RC on a
> Pentium 2 with 128Mb of RAM. I have downloaded the gtk version that used to
> run the broken programs (version 1.2.0) and tried to ./configure, which goes
> ahead, but complains about glib not being there, so I downloaded that, still
> complains that glib is not there. I did download version 1.2.0 and did the
> /configure but no good, still complains that this file is missing. 

>From your description, this machine sounds like its had some of its
parts (software parts, that is) upgraded over a period of time and now
you're running into problems with version compatibility. We call this
"dependency hell", though the phrase is usually used in a slightly
different context. I'm afraid I don't have any advice specific to your
problem, but I can give some general advice starting with: Consider
saving all of your important data (to include networking configuration,
custom scripts, and X configuration) and start from scratch with a new
install of 4.9RC.

> The error
> I get if I try and run one of the broken programs is /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so
> 1: Shared Object "libintl.so.4" not found If I do a locate libintl.so.4, the
> machine tells me that is is located in libexec, right where it should be,
> however, when I log into that directory and look, It's not there - and I
> have been logging in as root to make sure that I get all privileges and can
> see hidden files.

The 'locate' utility uses a database, located in
/var/db/locate.database, to keep track of things. Theoretically, this
database is supposed to be updated weekly via a cron job, which can
result in a confusing scenario for those not familiar with how locate
works. If you do any work to the filesystem (installing a program,
deleting some files, etc) then the locate database will be out of date
until the the next time the cron job is run. This is the problem that
you're describing. Do an 'ls -l' on the database file and look at the
timestamp--that will tell you the exact time that the database was last
synched with the system.

I personally lothe the locate system because it's most useless when it's
most needed. I tinker on my system a lot, and if I've just installed
something and run into library dependency issues, I usually want to know
where my libraries are *now*, not last Saturday at 4:15AM. For this
reason, I usually disable the weekly database sync (to save wear and
tear on my disks) and resort to 'which', 'whereis', and 'find'. See the
manpages for each.

[snip]

> Please don't bother if you are a 'boffin' who likes big words such as just
> hiblib the hoobiwhastis with alt 67 and configure the path to match the
> environment via port 28774. Don't get me wrong, I'm not unappreciative, but
> it goes over my head, and is a waste of time for all of us. I do not
> understand code or programming, I am just a workstation operator who is
> trying to learn this flexible powerful system. I hope to be able to discuss
> and understand terminology associated with code and programming when I get
> my head around the basics and have an  opportunity to learn more. I am a
> newbie and need laymen terms to understand.

I'm sure you're not unappreciative, but bear in mind that FreeBSD is a
complex, technical system and that technical language is usually
required to communicate any meaningful solution or idea. There might be
a few on this list who enjoy trying to flex their alleged superiority
over newbies by using throwing in advanced words and highly technical
concepts, but most of us are just here volunteering our valuable time to
help. Understanding, however, can never simply be given. That's a
journey that you have to take up yourself. If you're having trouble with
the technical jargon, you should strive to learn it by reading as many
docs and manpages as you can, especially since you indicate that your
intention is to learn. I can sympathize with your situation, though,
because I'm not much of a programmer either. This is a significant
disadvantage when it comes to learning FreeBSD as its surrounding
culture is deeply intertwined with programming and development, even
compared to other Unix clones and derivatives. But with persistance and
a LOT of reading, FreeBSD is far from impossible to learn.

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Any ideas on X freezing up with NVIDIA drivers?

2003-10-20 Thread Don Whitteker
Hello all and thank you in advance...first off I am
still a bit of a
newbie with FreeBSD (and *NIX in general) but am
learning more every
day = ) I hope I got this on the correct list but feel
free to point
me in the right direction if I did not

OK...here's the problem. I have an A7N8X board
(deluxe) and am trying
to use the nvidia driver with my GeForceFX. I've
installed 5.1-Release
(I tries 4.8 too but the 5.1 just seemed to flow
better with me) and
have ACPI turned off in my BIOS and in FBSD. However
no matter what I
do all I seem to be able to get when I start up X is
the nvidia logo.
I lose all keyboard function and thus have to do a
hard reboot. I have
been working on this particular little problem for a
number of weeks
now to no avail. I have searched any relevant docs I
could find
(nvidia, handbook,XFree86 site, nforce2 site) to no
avail. I have
googles so much I have trouble remembering which
keyword combination I
used to get to a particular page. Basically I am
clueless on what to
try next. I have tried make setup with the
WITH_FREEBSD_AGP with agp
in the kernel, tried the WITH_FREEBSD_AGP with it not
in the kernel
but as a module, I have tried with no agp in kernel or
agp.ko and
using the cards AGPGART. I have even tried
combinations between them.
I have compiled and recompiled with optimizations
(-march=athlon-xp
CHFLAGS= -o -pipe) and without but nothing seems to
change.

The only errors I am getting in my XFree86.0.log is a
couple of
warnings about some resolution I don't use anyway not
working with my
monitor and of course it not being able to verify AGP
usage when I am
using freebsd's agpgart. Other than that everything
looks peachy keen.
Everything works fine with "nv"

Looking back I probably would not have gotten such a
problematic
chipset if I had known I was going to be giving up
windows and moving
to something a little more fun = )...btw besides the
whole video
driver thing I am loving this OS.

oh yeahif you need me to post my dmesg or config
file or log or
anything just let me know

= )
Don Whitteker

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RE: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
 I do cd to  /usr/ports/www/mozilla-firebird and these port does not exist
 I can do cvsup due to restrictions on my FIREWALL


Do you have the ports collection (the /usr/ports directory and contents)
in your version of 5.1-RELEASE?  If so, you can cd to
/usr/ports/www/mozilla-firebird and type 'make install clean' (no
quotes).  That should get you version 0.6, I believe.

Why are you unable to cvsup?  If it is because you don't have the cvsup
application installed, see if you can download and install the package
for it (I'd recommend choosing the cvsup-without-gui package; you can
also install cvsup using the port, but that takes a very long time
downloading, compiling and installing Modula-3).  Once you have cvsup
installed, you can use it to install/update the ports collection.  If you
cannot use cvsup for some other reason, you might try FTP-ing the latest
ports collection.  (Since I am behind a firewall without FTP access ATM,
can someone tell us whether there is an FTP-able ports collection with
version 0.7 of Mozilla-Firebird?)

Jud





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Re: Error Message

2003-10-20 Thread Charles Swiger
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 02:11 PM, Bob Moore Computer Recruiters 
TekJobs.com wrote:
I'm doing
pine -inbox-path=users/tekjobs/mail/Trash
Gives me this message
Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed to run pine.
What do I need to do?
Where are you running pine?  If you're logging in directly on the 
machine, setting TERM to 'cons25' is likely correct.  If you're running 
X-windows, try using 'xterm' or 'vt100' as the value of TERM.

--
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Error Message

2003-10-20 Thread Bob Moore Computer Recruiters TekJobs.com
I'm doing 
pine -inbox-path=users/tekjobs/mail/Trash

Gives me this message
Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed to run pine.
What do I need to do?
Thanks for your help
Bob Moore 
tekjobs.com




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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Jud

On 20 Oct 2003 13:25:49 -0400, "Mailing Lists Catcher"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> There is no port for 5.x that I can find so updating your ports tree
> wont do much good.
> 
> You can try downloading the package for 4-stable or wait for it to
> appear for 5.x.  I am not certain what would happen if you downloaded
> the package for 4-stable and tried pgk_adddo this at your own risk.
> 
> Jason Cribbins
> 
> On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:27, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
> >  I have 5.1 Realease and i want install mozilla-firebird, but in these realease 
> > don exist, what can ido?
> > i found the package  for the 4.8-Stable and can  not install it due to 
> > dependencies whit gettext xfree_libraries . Waht should i do? How can i update 
> > my ports collection ? AHH very important I CAN NOT CVSUP
> > Thanks

[Sigh] Don't believe everything you read.  The ports are the same for 4.x
and 5.x.

Do you have the ports collection (the /usr/ports directory and contents)
in your version of 5.1-RELEASE?  If so, you can cd to
/usr/ports/www/mozilla-firebird and type 'make install clean' (no
quotes).  That should get you version 0.6, I believe.

Why are you unable to cvsup?  If it is because you don't have the cvsup
application installed, see if you can download and install the package
for it (I'd recommend choosing the cvsup-without-gui package; you can
also install cvsup using the port, but that takes a very long time
downloading, compiling and installing Modula-3).  Once you have cvsup
installed, you can use it to install/update the ports collection.  If you
cannot use cvsup for some other reason, you might try FTP-ing the latest
ports collection.  (Since I am behind a firewall without FTP access ATM,
can someone tell us whether there is an FTP-able ports collection with
version 0.7 of Mozilla-Firebird?)

Jud
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Can I get SMBFS to cooperate with NT apps as well as Sharity Light?

2003-10-20 Thread Doug Lee
I am trying to open a series of database files from FreeBSD that are
hosted by a Windows NT share.  I only need read-only access at this
point.

For some reason though, if a file is opened by a Windows program,
FreeBSD can't get read access to it if I use smbfs, but other Windows
machines can and so can FreeBSD if I mount the share with Sharity
instead of smbfs.  I tried to find information in the mount_smbfs man
page and in the smbfs source code on how to make smbfs grant me read
access to an already-opened file, but I didn't find anything.

Is there a way to get smbfs to grant the same access to files that
Windows is using?

This is FreeBSD 4.8-RC, in case it matters for this.

Thanks much.


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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:38:03PM -0400, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
> I can not use cvsup due to restrictions on my network and i need to do updates of my 
> ports. 
> how and what can i do?

This is answered in the handbook - there are other ways to obtain
updates to FreeBSD, like CTM.

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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:25:49PM -0400, Mailing Lists Catcher wrote:
> There is no port for 5.x that I can find so updating your ports tree
> wont do much good.

There certainly is a port.  What makes you think otherwise?

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kernal panic when trying to recompile world or kernel

2003-10-20 Thread Hicks, Raymond
Hello all, 

  I was hoping to get some insight into what could be causing these issues.
Any thing you can do to help is appreciated. Here is the situation: 

  I have an asus A7M-266D with dual athalon MP 1800+  and 1.5G of DDR 2100
RAM.  The machine has 3 120GIG IDE drives, one floppy and one CD drive.
Drives are western digital. The kernel is compiled for SMP and the release
is FREEBSD-5.1-RELEASE although sources were current till about June at
which time I moved and did not do much to system.  Now I have gotten the
system out of storage and set it up .. it runs fine but I have recently
tried to cvsup then recompile world and I get: 

KERNEL PANIC with CPUID = 0 
lapic.id = 

  It seems like a random error in that it sometimes does it in 2 minutes and
other times it will go for almost 10 minutes.  Once it happens, the machine
reboots.  I originally thought this could be due to heat from processors so
I took measures to reduce heat.  There are currently 2 fans pushing air into
the case and 3 fans plus 1 blower pulling air out of the case.  Each CPU has
a new amd cpu fan with bearings and the temp is well within the limits of
normal operation.   I am at a loss for this and was wondering if anyone had
any ideas on ways to fix / mitigate.  

please respond directly as I am not on the mailing list.

many thanks 

Ray 
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RE: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
I can not use cvsup due to restrictions on my network and i need to do updates of my 
ports. 
how and what can i do?


-Original Message-
From:   Derek Zeanah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Mon 10/20/2003 1:23 PM
To: Osmany Guirola Cruz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
Subject:Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

>Waht should i do? How can i update my ports collection ? AHH very important I CAN NOT 
>CVSUP 

I'm something of a newbie with FreeBSD, but it seems like cvsup'ing your ports tree is 
the preferred solution.  Why can't you do this?  Can you use the package management 
system instead or ports, or is there a basic issue that keeps you from using both?



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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Mailing Lists Catcher
There is no port for 5.x that I can find so updating your ports tree
wont do much good.

You can try downloading the package for 4-stable or wait for it to
appear for 5.x.  I am not certain what would happen if you downloaded
the package for 4-stable and tried pgk_adddo this at your own risk.

Jason Cribbins

On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 12:27, Osmany Guirola Cruz wrote:
>  I have 5.1 Realease and i want install mozilla-firebird, but in these realease don 
> exist, what can ido?
> i found the package  for the 4.8-Stable and can  not install it due to dependencies 
> whit gettext xfree_libraries . Waht should i do? How can i update my ports 
> collection ? AHH very important I CAN NOT CVSUP
> Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: info on FreeBSD

2003-10-20 Thread Mailing Lists Catcher
everything you wanted to know is on http://www.freebsd.org
In particular check out:
http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html

Then before you attempt an install besure to read through the handbook
at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/index.html and the faq
a: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/index.html

After all that if you have a more specific question feel free to ask.

Jason Cribbins

On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 13:07, nigel p lawrence wrote:
> Dear Sirs
> 
> I aew to linux what is Freeebsd ?
> Is some kind of unix or linux ?
> 
> Thanks Nigel P Lawrence
>Amateur Radio Call sign os G0MEJ
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Re: info on FreeBSD

2003-10-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 06:07:30PM +0100, nigel p lawrence wrote:

> I aew to linux what is Freeebsd ?
> Is some kind of unix or linux ?

Like it says right at the top of the page at http://www.freebsd.org/ --

What is FreeBSD?

FreeBSD is an advanced operating system for x86 compatible, DEC
Alpha, IA-64, PC-98 and UltraSPARC(R) architectures. It is derived
from BSD, the version of UNIX(R) developed at the University of
California, Berkeley. It is developed and maintained by a large
team of individuals. Additional platforms are in various stages of
development.

It's not Linux, although there are some similarities and both OSes can
run a large amount of software in common.

Cheers,

Matthew 

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Re: 5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Derek Zeanah

>Waht should i do? How can i update my ports collection ? AHH very important I CAN NOT 
>CVSUP 

I'm something of a newbie with FreeBSD, but it seems like cvsup'ing your ports tree is 
the preferred solution.  Why can't you do this?  Can you use the package management 
system instead or ports, or is there a basic issue that keeps you from using both?



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info on FreeBSD

2003-10-20 Thread nigel p lawrence
Dear Sirs

I aew to linux what is Freeebsd ?
Is some kind of unix or linux ?
Thanks Nigel P Lawrence
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Re: burncd ``only wrote -1...'' coasting discs.

2003-10-20 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:26:28AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Lewis Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm trying to use burncd to write an ISO to a blank disc.  The discs are
> > all fine, etc. and this is a new DVD drive (writes DVDs and CDs), so I'm
> > guessing that is the problem.
> 
> By itself, it shouldn't be.  If you're running 5.x, that's another
> story.

In true me style I am and as ever I always forget to add some relevant
detail to all posts, so this is it.  I'm using 5.1-RELEASE-p8.

  Could you point me (or just tell me ;) in the direction of where I can
find out about this problem?

  Thanks very much,

-lewiz.

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5.1-Realease UPDATE PORTS

2003-10-20 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
 I have 5.1 Realease and i want install mozilla-firebird, but in these realease don 
exist, what can ido?
i found the package  for the 4.8-Stable and can  not install it due to dependencies 
whit gettext xfree_libraries . Waht should i do? How can i update my ports 
collection ? AHH very important I CAN NOT CVSUP
Thanks


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Re: mplayer + xmms issue!

2003-10-20 Thread Mailing Lists Catcher
Are you getting any sounds at all?
Check in /dev to see if you even have a sound device.  My guess is no.

All sound drivers (I believe) are disabled initially.  Check out
/boot/defaults/loader.conf and /boot/loader.conf.  Also the Handbook has
a sound card section.

Most PCs have a cable connected directly from the CDROM to the sound
card so CDs might play even if FreeBSD is not setup to use your sound
card.

Jason Cribbins

On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 06:09, Bryan Cassidy wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 05:04:38 -0500
> Bryan Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I dont want to get into why I had to do a reinstall but I did. Now
> > that I have mplayer installed and xmms installed I can play cds on
> > xmms but can't play streaming audio from live365.com *anymore*. I use
> > to be able to play them. Which was yesterday. I can play videos in
> > mplayer but I don't have any sound. What is goin on? I never had this
> > problem before. All I had to do was configure sound in kernel and
> > boom. I was all set. Wouldn't mind some help here.
> > 
> Sorry I didn't add this before.
> I don't get any errors from mplayer but when I go to play streaming
> video from live365.com in xmms I get the 
> 
> Please check that
> 1. You have the correct output plugin selected. Only two and I'm sure
> it's not diskwriter I should use.
> 2. No other programs is blocking the soundcard. NOTHING loading the is
> playing audio.
> 3. Your soundcard is configured properly. lmao.. ya think?

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Re: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE 4.8-RELEASE 4-9-RC-2 4.9-RC2 4.9-RC3 floppy install problem.

2003-10-20 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:38:25AM +0800, Evgeny Larionov wrote:
> I just try install some versions FreeBSD from floppy disks via FTP
> (HTTP-proxy). During instalation system unsuccessfully trying download
> necessary files from
> ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snaphots/i386/
> bacuase this directory (snapshots/i386) on primary and others
> ftp sites is empty. After setting URL manualy in
> ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386 system try download files
> from
> ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386
> How must installed from floppy via ftp ??

This suggests you are using the wrong boot disks.  Release boot disks
don't try to fetch from that URL.

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Re: Best place to start a misc program at bootup

2003-10-20 Thread Mike Maltese
>So there's /etc/rc, and etc/rc.local, and then there's the fancy
rc.conf
> scripts which stat programs. /etc/rc and /etc/rc.local don't appear to be
> "designated" places for starting up misc. programs, so where do we put
these
> misc programs which we want to run at startup?

Take a look in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/.

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Re: Howto change from RELEASE to STABLE

2003-10-20 Thread Mailing Lists Catcher
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 15:50, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
> I am running 5.1-RELEASE and would like to update to 5.1-STABLE. How
> can I go about it? I just want to install the software and not the
> kernel itself. Is that possible? 
> 
> Also, where is the information for pkg_add kept? I mean when I say
> 'pkg_add -r bash2' how does it know where to go get it? Is there a
> config file for pkg_add somewhere? I searched for it but could not find
> it. 
> 
I am not certain where the "config" file is but I am sure there is
probably one somewhere.  But pkg_add pretty much gets everything from
ftp.freebsd.org which is the only place I know of to get reliable
packages.

Jason Cribbins

> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -D
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Re: CVSup supfile question

2003-10-20 Thread Alden Louis-Pierre
Graham Lillico wrote:

On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 08:04:54PM -0400, Alden Louis-Pierre wrote:
 

  So running my sample CVSup supfile would not patch my system for the 
security advisories from SA-03:08 - SA-0318(as of 10/19/03)?  I'm under 
the impression this supfile would take care of security advisories, 
being that I'm updating the /usr directory.  For everything to take in 
effect I must build and install my kernel as well?  I'm looking through 
the FreeBSD Handbook and I don't
see this extra step. 

Thank You
Alden Louis-Pierre
   

If you are wanting to do binary updates then "FreeBSD Update" might be what
your looking for. It can be found at http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update/
Grez..
 

   Thanks everyone for your help.  I manage to do a source upgrade.  I 
did not know if it would be this involved.  Updating the
source was simple, but a little tedious.  I never thought I would be 
compiling so many different things, which made me a little
hesitate at first.

   Graham, thank for the info on the binary update.  This is exactly 
the kind of tool I wanted.  For a second there I thought my supfile
would do a binary update.

Thank You
Alden Louis-Pierre
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Re: IP Bandwidth Usage Monitoring Question

2003-10-20 Thread Adam Gardner
Check out ipa in the ports.

/usr/ports/sysutils/ipa

Requires a firewall though.

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

> "Jason L. Schwab" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have a machine with several ip addresses where users run alot of
> > different services, and I am wondeirng if anyone knows a way or
> > some recommended software than can monitor the inbound and
> > outbound bandwidth usage per ip-address.
> >
> > I have SNMPd and MRTG setup, but that just does the entire machine
> > as a whole, which is useful also, but I need to know per ip, as
> > its one ip per customer for the bigger users, and there the ones
> > I need to know, so I can doing billing, etc, etc.
> >
> > Let me know you folks thoughts, thanks very much!
>
> I've never done any of this sort of thing, but
> wouldn't, e.g., mrtg be able to handle this fine
> just by diverting each address of interest over a
> separate divert socket?  It doesn't scale well,
> of course...
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Re: buildingworld & sysctl -w kern.securelevel=2 help??

2003-10-20 Thread David Landgren
Lowell Gilbert wrote:
is it safe to reboot the system with the sysctl -w kern.securelevel
variable  set to -1 ..AFTER the OS has just done a make buildworld ? and
then just pickup where i left off ??


The buildworld should work fine in raised securelevels.  Installing
(kernels or the rest of the "world") won't, but that's one of the
To confirm, at securelevel -1, you will be able to remove immutable 
files and so forth, in order to install a new kernel. At level -2 and 
-3 you can no longer modify immutable files and/or change the firewall 
rulesets. The latter is not so much of a problem, but the former will 
effectively prevent you from installing a new kernel.

David

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HP Deskjet 5150

2003-10-20 Thread geek

I really need to know if my HP Deskjet 5150 works with freebsd, if not, i have to 
change it in 3 days, please help me!

I've configured cups like it said in www.freebsddiary.org, with a difference, i dont 
have a compatible browser to adminsistrate cups, so i do these to add my printer in 
the server:

/usr/sbin/lpadmin -p DeskJet -E -v usb:/dev/ulpt0 -m deskjet.ppd (is this correct?)

is this correct?! and when i access to CUPS with workstation i see the printer, but i 
can't print anything, neither from the server or from the workstation!!!

Please help me, urgent :(

PS: what the difference between deskjet.ppd and deskjet2.ppd

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RE: IPFW Antics

2003-10-20 Thread Tom Servo
Each time that I see the request dialog come up in my IRC client the request
times out because I think that my gateway is dropping the request packets
instead of forwarding them to my IRC machine.  I know that ircd usually runs
on port 6667 so I am guessing that DCC requests must land in the same area.
I specified all ports from -7000 to be safe but maybe these are the
wrong ports???

-Original Message-
From: Lowell Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 8:51 AM
To: Tom Servo
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IPFW Antics


"Tom Servo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am trying to run an IRC file server inside my network that is 
> protected by a FreeBSD box that is running natd.  I am running natd 
> with the following options to enable IP forwarding to allow people to 
> request files from my file server (192.168.0.101):
> 
> /sbin/natd -f /etc/natd.conf -redirect_port tcp 
> 192.168.0.101:-7000 -7000 -n ep1
> 
> Unfortunately, it appears that the natd box is not forwarding the 
> incoming request packets correctly.  Can anyone provide some insight 
> on this?  Thanks in advance.

Is anything getting forwarded at all?  How are those packets incorrect?


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Re: errors with dependant packages while installing ports.

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:06:40PM +, carmoda wrote:
> 
> > I seem to get failures just about every time i try to install anything:
> > 
> > in particular errors with dependant packages:
> > 
> > "An older version of whatever/whatever is already installed..."
> > 
> > now, on attempts to update any of these dependancy packages i break my 
> > system... so. do i just accept i cannot update or run certain things, or 
> > is there some trick t this i am missing...?
> > 
> > please 'CC' me as i am on digest mode...
> 
> This is the main problem that portupgrade(1) solves: package
> dependency ordering.

*Most* of the time, just building from ports instead of installing
from packages solves this particular case of the dependency problem.

If the new program really *requires* an updated version of the
dependency (as opposed to the packages case, where it's linked against
that version but could -- typically -- just as easily have been linked
against an older version), then you need to update the dependency, and
everything else that's dependent on it.  This is where portupgrade
really saves you an awful lot of (tedious) effort.

Telling the two cases apart can be a bit tricky for non-programmers,
but building the port will usually tell you.
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Re: Postfix problems

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Nicolai P Guba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Saturday 20 September 2003 15:34, fbsd_user wrote:
> > server you have to disable sendmail and reboot FBSD.
> 
> *ouch*  reboots are evil.
> 
> surely there is another way of doing this. or?

Yes.  You can just kill your sendmail processes.

In this case, though, I would recommend doing the reboot so that you
can be sure it will come up properly if you have an unscheduled
reboot.  E-mail is too important to trust in untested startup
procedures.  
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Anyone know of a good way to handle mail for multiple domains (my own _and_ not my own)?

2003-10-20 Thread Scott W
Hey all- this is something I've looked for a good solution for for some 
time, and I'm sure someone else has already worked out.  Any ideas 
appreciated.

The scenario:
I have entirely too many email addresses, several of which from domains 
that are mine, but others that are not mine, but am
unable to get rid of entirely.

My freeBSD system is going to become a mail server among other things, 
to handle mail for several of my own domains.  Not
a big deal there, have done that enough times...however:

I'd like to also pull email from the mail accounts which are _not_ mine, 
so I can simply use IMAP to my mail server to access all
of my different accounts email.

In the past, I've used fetchmail to accomplish this somewhat, but that 
was on a per user basis via user cron jobs.  I'd rather avoid adding 
user accounts (at the shell/system level) for each email account I have.

Does anyone know of an alternative way to do this, that would work well 
for say, a dozen accounts for multiple domains of my own, and perhaps 
another dozen accounts from domains that are not my own?

Thanks in advance,

Scott



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Re: errors with dependant packages while installing ports.

2003-10-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:06:40PM +, carmoda wrote:

> I seem to get failures just about every time i try to install anything:
> 
> in particular errors with dependant packages:
> 
> "An older version of whatever/whatever is already installed..."
> 
> now, on attempts to update any of these dependancy packages i break my 
> system... so. do i just accept i cannot update or run certain things, or 
> is there some trick t this i am missing...?
> 
> please 'CC' me as i am on digest mode...

This is the main problem that portupgrade(1) solves: package
dependency ordering.  Generally what happens is that a port looks for,
say, a particular version of a shared library.  If you've got an older
version of the shared library installed, the test to find the
particular shared library will fail, and the ports system will try and
re-install the dependent package.  As you've discovered, trying to
install a package on top of an older version of itself generates
errors.

The trick is to update the dependencies first, and then the ports that
depend on them.  It's also a good rule of thumb to take all your
ports/packages from a consistent source: ie. always use the packages
directory for your particular release from the FTP servers, or always
install from a freshly cvsup(1)'d ports tree.  That isn't a hard and
fast rule, but it generally helps you to avoid this sort of version
mismatch thing if you stick to it as closely as you can.

Note that sometimes a port providing a particular shared library may
have any number of dependents, and they can be broken by your updating
the shared library.  The gettext port seems to be a prime offender in
this reguard, as witnessed by the regular floods of messages to this
list about 'libintl.so.N not found'.  portupgrade(1) gets around that
shared library problem by keeping a copy of old version of shlibs in
/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg and there will generally be a heads-up
e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when some particularly important port gets
updated.

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Re: errors with dependant packages while installing ports.

2003-10-20 Thread David Lodeiro
Hi, 

# cd /usr/ports/xxx/directory of port that wont compile

# make deinstall

# make install  or  # make install clean  or   # make package

works for me without any problems

Seeya

David Lodeiro
> Hi,
>
> I seem to get failures just about every time i try to install anything:
>
> in particular errors with dependant packages:
>
> "An older version of whatever/whatever is already installed..."
>
> now, on attempts to update any of these dependancy packages i break my
> system... so. do i just accept i cannot update or run certain things, or
> is there some trick t this i am missing...?
>
> please 'CC' me as i am on digest mode...
>
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Re: buildingworld & sysctl -w kern.securelevel=2 help??

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Brent Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> After i started my
> make buildworld
> while it was building .. i noticed that the kernel sysctl was set to
> sysctl -w kern.securelevel=2

That's fine.

> i tried set it back to 0 or -1 ..but it wouldnt let me.

Right.  That's the point of securelevels.  If it could be changed
without rebooting, it wouldn't be much use for security.

> is it safe to reboot the system with the sysctl -w kern.securelevel
> variable  set to -1 ..AFTER the OS has just done a make buildworld ? and
> then just pickup where i left off ??

The buildworld should work fine in raised securelevels.  Installing
(kernels or the rest of the "world") won't, but that's one of the
reasons you usually want to do those things in single-user mode.  It's
quite acceptable (and common) to do the buildworld with the high
securelevel and then reboot to continue with the installation.
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Re: burncd ``only wrote -1...'' coasting discs.

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Lewis Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm trying to use burncd to write an ISO to a blank disc.  The discs are
> all fine, etc. and this is a new DVD drive (writes DVDs and CDs), so I'm
> guessing that is the problem.

By itself, it shouldn't be.  If you're running 5.x, that's another
story (the relevant code has gone through a whole series of
significant changes there), but since you didn't mention what your OS
configuration was like, I'll assume you're running a "production"
release of the OS (4.x).

>   A simple output is as follows:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/packages/unix/isos/hurd > sudo burncd -s max -f
> /dev/acd0 data disc1.iso fixate
> next writeable LBA 0
> writing from file disc1.iso size 646272 KB
> written this track 832 KB (0%) total 832 KB
> only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes: Device busy
> 
> fixating CD, please wait..
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mnt/packages/unix/isos/hurd >
> 
>   This leaves me a bit annoyed but with a shiny new mat for my glass.
> Problem is I have quite a collection now and I'll have to start handing
> them out to my friends soon.

I tend to recommend using CD-RW disks for experimenting instead of
CD-Rs.  They tend to require much lower speeds, which can hide some
kinds of problems, but at least you can rule out a number of areas.

>   I'm wondering if it's because the drive doesn't have BurnProof (or
> similar)?  It's a fairly hi-spec machine (XP2800) and the CPU usage at
> the time was around 4%.

BurnProof shouldn't be relevant.  I don't think burncd will use it
anyway, although I'm too lazy to actually check the code.  With a
*really* fast burner, I suppose it's possible that your system can't
the data off the hard disk fast enough (particularly if the image is
mounted over a network, as seems to be the case from your directory
path), then buffer underruns are definitely possible.

The first thing to look at is whether it works at a lower speed.  In
fact, start with a burn speed of 1x or 2x.  If that works, then the
media you're using can't handle the top speed of the drive.  This is
quite common these days.  If underruns are occurring, then burning at
a slower speed should avoid the problem as well. 
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RE: Postfix problems

2003-10-20 Thread Vince Hoffman

> 
> On Saturday 20 September 2003 15:34, fbsd_user wrote:
> > server you have to disable sendmail and reboot FBSD.
> 
> *ouch*  reboots are evil.
> 
> surely there is another way of doing this. or?
> 

you shouldnt have to reboot. try making the rc.conf changes then,
$ killall sendmail
to get rid of any sendmail processes hanging on.
then since you are disabling sendmail in rc.conf i assume you are using the
startup wrapper /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix.sh rather than the
/etc/mail/mailer.conf wrappper. if this is so then try
$ /usr/local/etc/rc.d/postfix.sh start


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Re: Hacking calendar(1)

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Charles Howse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I get my daily calendar email, there is no explanation of which
> entries come from which calendars.
> Other than hacking the source code, is there a way to get some headers
> like this? 
> 
> Music History:
> Oct 20Three members of Lynyrd Skynyrd die in a plane crash, 1977
> 
> World History:
> Blah blah blah
> 
> Computer History:
> Blah blah blah

Not really.
The only cheap-and-easy hack I can think of is to modify (each line
of) the calendar files themselves.

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Re: IP Bandwidth Usage Monitoring Question

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Jason L. Schwab" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I have a machine with several ip addresses where users run alot of
>   different services, and I am wondeirng if anyone knows a way or
>   some recommended software than can monitor the inbound and
>   outbound bandwidth usage per ip-address.
> 
>   I have SNMPd and MRTG setup, but that just does the entire machine
>   as a whole, which is useful also, but I need to know per ip, as
>   its one ip per customer for the bigger users, and there the ones
>   I need to know, so I can doing billing, etc, etc.
> 
>   Let me know you folks thoughts, thanks very much!

I've never done any of this sort of thing, but
wouldn't, e.g., mrtg be able to handle this fine 
just by diverting each address of interest over a 
separate divert socket?  It doesn't scale well,
of course...
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Re: Postfix problems

2003-10-20 Thread Nicolai P Guba
On Saturday 20 September 2003 15:34, fbsd_user wrote:
> server you have to disable sendmail and reboot FBSD.

*ouch*  reboots are evil.

surely there is another way of doing this. or?

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Re: Odd network interface (PCMCIA) problem; going insane

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Heath Volmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The problem: My PCMCIA network interface (Linksys PCM100) doesn't seems to
> work - SORT OF.  This is odd.  I can get online okay, use Mozilla to browse
> the web, but when I fire up sshd or apache or any other kind of server they
> don't seem to be accessible from the machines sitting right next to it on
> the desk.
> 
> The BSD machine is @ 10.0.0.3, have a mac @ .2, XP @ .4.
> 
> Subnets are fine.
> 
> I can't ssh, telnet, ftp or even ping!! .3 from .2 or .4.
> 
> When I ping FROM .3 to any another, I get some strange dup responses.  This
> only happens on this machine.
> 
> I CAN ping to .3 from .3.  This makes sense.
> 
> Have tried direct x-over cable connection between machines.  No good.
> 
> Have removed card and installed in XP machine.  Good.
> 
> Have reinstalled FBSD.  No luck.
> 
> In order to confirm that the machine is okay, I reloaded win2K clean over
> the BSD.  Good!
> 
> The PCM100 is listed in the pccard.conf file (I think that's it's name.)  I
> do not see any reference to it in dmesg.
> 
> I swear this worked at one point.  Any suggestions?

This sounds like some sort of cabling problem (at least from the
router's point of view).  What does the physical topology (connections
between machines/routers/bridges) look like?
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errors with dependant packages while installing ports.

2003-10-20 Thread carmoda
Hi,

I seem to get failures just about every time i try to install anything:

in particular errors with dependant packages:

"An older version of whatever/whatever is already installed..."

now, on attempts to update any of these dependancy packages i break my 
system... so. do i just accept i cannot update or run certain things, or 
is there some trick t this i am missing...?

please 'CC' me as i am on digest mode...

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Re: ipfw routing

2003-10-20 Thread Petre Bandac
On Monday 20 October 2003 15:48 Anno Domini, Lowell Gilbert wrote using one of 
his keyboards:
> Petre Bandac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have to use a freebsd machine as a gateway router; I did manage to make
> > natd work, but now I have also a subnet routed to the machine
>
> That sounds fine.  How you handle it will depend on whether you want
> outside hosts to be able to initiate connections into that subnet or
> not.  If not, it's easy:  you just need '-unregistered_only'.
>
> If you do want full access into those machines, I don't see why
> just setting up a route on the gateway machine shouldn't be enough to
> just do it on a machine already configured for IP forwarding.  Of
> course, you'll need to let the packets through the firewall.

all I did was 
ipfw add pass all from any to $subnet 
ipfw add pass all from $subnet to any

and it works

my problem was that I googled around and didn't find the answer to my problem, 
so I had to figure it out myself

if you are familiar with freebsd routers/gateways, I would welcome any hints/
advices/howtoes/links/etc

what I want is to get the LAN behind rl1 to the internet (connected via rl0) 
with routable (i.e. public) IP addresses

> > I'm looking for the ipfw command similar to iptables' -A FORWARD -d
> > $subnet/ $mask -j ACCEPT
>
> Sorry, I don't use iptables, so that doesn't mean anything to me.

I am new to freebsd (and slowly moving to the intermediate level), but I have 
a few years of linux experience behind, that's why I tried a comparison 
between the 2 

> I can guess that it's going to just let in all packets destined for
> subnet/mask, but surely you want to do *some* firewalling...

yes, I surely do

> > also, what's the difference between ipfw add pass and ipfw add forward ?
>
> The former accepts a packet for processing by the IP stack, while the
> latter bypasses the forwarding portions of the stack.

got it

thanks,

petre

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VXA-2 Packet Drive

2003-10-20 Thread Jeronimo Romero
Does anyone know if FreeBSD supports Exabyte VXA-2 Packet 
Drives??
We are interested in purchasing one but i didn't see it in 
the hardware compatibility list and we wanted to make 
sure. 
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PQI Intelligent Stick 64M problem

2003-10-20 Thread Vlad Kozin
Hi.
I'm trying to read data from my new PQI Intelligent Stick 64Mb usb flash
drive. But even 'usbdevs' doesn't see it :( I tried restarting 'usbd'
but it didn't help.

#uname -a
FreeBSD 4.9-RC #0: Sun Oct 19 03:38:20 MSD 2003 i386

Inside the kernel:

# USB support
device  uhci# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device  usb # USB Bus (required)
device  ugen# Generic
device  uhid# "Human Interface Devices"
device  ums # Mouse

device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required)
device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
device  pass# Passthrough device (direct SCSI
access)

#kldload umass


Any suggestions?

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Best regards Vlad Kozin.

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Re: install problems

2003-10-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
I realize you're hobbled by Microsoft software, but please don't top-post.

"chuck miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> probing for pnp devices on ppbus0
> ppbus0:  scp,vlink
> plip0:  on ppbus0
> ad0: dma limited to udma33,non-ata66 cable or device
> ad0: read command timeout tag=0 serv=0 -resetting
> ata0: resetting devices..
> 
> this is where it locks up!

Seems like some sort of termination or jumpering problem.  Maybe the
new disk isn't set up for the way it's connected?

>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Lowell Gilbert 
>   To: chuck miller 
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 12:24 PM
>   Subject: Re: install problems
> 
> 
>   "chuck miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   > Hi, I'm having problems trying to install freebsd 4.8 on my sony
>   > vaio pcv-rx850.Everything is factory except I added a
>   > 2gig hard drive..The problem I have is my computer locks up trying
>   > to install and never gets to the menu. However if the hard drives
>   > are disconnected I can get to the menu but can get no further.  Can
>   > you help or at least guide me in the right direction
> 
>   What is the last message before it locks up?
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