named questions.

2008-03-12 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have named running as secondary server on v6.2
It will not start without a specific configuration file set
on the command line. After doing some investigation
it appears that that is because it runs chrooted and
there is not a symlink from /etc/namedb. Is that a correct
assumption? I read the man page and it specifies
the default configuration file as /etc/namedb/named.conf
and along with this file there are master and slave directories.
Would I make the /etc/namedb/named.conf file to be a symlink
to /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf?

There are some other entries in rc.conf related to named that
appear in my primary nameserver rc.conf file that relate to getting
it up at boot but I have lost root access to that machine so I cannot
recover the rc.conf details and I do not remember what document-
ation I was using to set it up.

I was advised to start named as a user other than root but when I
tried that named would not start because the user I set it to does
not have write permission in the directory that has the pid file.

When named starts at boot what user does it run as, by default?

Thank you for any guidance.
Jeff K

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re subscribing to the list

2008-03-10 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have unsubscribed form this list but have an emergency and need some
suggestions, that are not covered in the manuals or Absolute FreeBSD.

Specifically,

I have had a machine running with the same root password for some 3 
years.
There was a power failure tonight and when I rebooted the machine I 
found
I was unable to log in as root. No one other than me uses the machine, 
but
it does run several internet servers, Apache, named, postfix. I doubt 
that it

has been compromised to that degree over the network because I have
tcp wrappers blocking ftp and ssh access and have telnet disabled. I
have it shut down now incase that is the situation (someone was able to
change or corrupt the root password) But it appears that it somehow has
just gotten corrupted so it won't work. Is that possible.
The long and short is I want to avoid having to re install the system 
and
software. I do not have Apache and Postfix starting automatically at 
boot.

Thanks in advance;
Jeff K 


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Re: e-mail to root

2007-12-20 Thread jekillen


On Dec 19, 2007, at 7:30 PM, Kurt Buff wrote:


On Dec 19, 2007 6:54 PM, jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello:
Is there a manual or other publication that deals specifically with
reading e-mail messages to root for FreeBSD?  I have gotten a
message:

setuid diffs:
--- /var/log/setuid.today   Sat Sep  8 03:01:34 2007
+++ /tmp/security.9Jz0CWds  Wed Dec 19 03:01:38 2007

followed by references to various programs

then the next segment:
Checking for a current audit database:

Downloading fresh database.
auditfile.tbz   46 kB   42 
kBps

New database installed.
Database created: Wed Dec 19 14:40:00 PST 2007

Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities:

followed by numerous references to programs and
files on the FreeBSD site.

and I do not know quite what this means.


It means that you have portaudit installed, and it's run as part of
the daily scripts. That's a good thing.

I'd recommend consulting the portaudit man page

What it's found are packages on your machine that have security
bulletins against them - that is, the packages named have
vulnerabilities known to the FreeBSD Security team, which they believe
should be patched. There's a link to the bulletin for each one - I
think you'll find it enlightening to read some or all of them.

I'd do a 'pkg_add -r portupgrade' to install that package, do a cvsup
to get a current ports tree, then assess, very carefully, what you
want to upgrade. IMHO all of the packages mentioned should probably
get upgraded, unless you have *exceptional* reasons not to.

To upgrade you can do 'portupgrade packagename' for each package
named, or if you're feeling bold, 'portupgrade -aRr'.


I know that setuid is cause
for concern. I have three other machines with FreeBSD, with one
going back over a year of virtually continuous 24/7 operation and
this is the first time I have seen this type of message. For the
programs
reported with security problems it begs the question of dependencies
if they are removed or updated. Some references are to cups and
fetchmail
neither of which I use or have use for, that I am aware of.


Portupgrade will take care of dependencies. No worries, though you
should also peruse the man page for portupgrade to get your knowledge
up.


This
particular
machine is primarily a web server. It does have Postfix running but 
just

uses local delivery and only listens on private network interface.
I am also a little dubious about posting any specifics to a public
mailing
list.
I am admittedly a novice at this (on all my own systems so no one
else's behind is on the line). Short of paying consultation fees to
someone, this is about the only live contact I have on the subject.
Thanks in advance for info:


We were all novices - I still am, in far too many ways. Don't sweat
it, and keep asking questions. Also, start reading the FreeBSD
Handbook - it's online, and also downloadable, and covers this very
topic.

Kurt



Thank you kindly for the info;
I have been reading the handbook. I have it installed as html on my
everyday work machine. Having a web server on localhost is great.
It does cover portupgrade, portsnap, ports and all that but it was just
the e-mails to root that had me confused. Does this also cover the
setuid question also?
I also have the new Absolute FreeBSD, and the hard copy manual
obtained through FreeBSD Mall.  I had a problem with e-mail messages
to root some time ago that were showing up every 11 minutes. I look
into crontab and found one script that was set to run every 11 minutes.
I opened the script file and read the authors e-mail address and sent
him an e-mail on the problem. He responded scolding me for putting
commands in rc.conf. Sure enough, though I did not have explicit 
commands

in it, I did have the syntax wrong. Who would have guess that a script
dealing with entropy would complain because of problems with rc.conf?
That is an example of question that might arise that could use some
specific coverage in documentation.
Jeff K

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Re: periodic.conf

2007-12-19 Thread jekillen


On Dec 19, 2007, at 12:54 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

jekillen wrote:


I copied a periodic.conf file from a v6.0 system to
a v6.2 system.
Is there any incompatibility that I should be aware of?


Assuming you're not talking about /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, then
it is unlikely you will have any problems.  All that the stuff in
periodic.conf does is set values for a number of shell variables.
Those only make a difference if any of the periodic scripts refer
to them -- otherwise they are harmless.

The only thing that could hurt you is if the meaning of a particular
variable changed significantly between 6.0 and 6.2.  That is something
which would not be allowed to happen by the FreeBSD project just as a
matter of good engineering practice.

Even so, you should sanity check what is set in your
/etc/periodic.conf with the entries in /etc/defaults/periodic.conf
- -- everything you can set to affect periodic scripts that come with
the base system is documented there, and it's fairly well commented
so you can work out what changes you need to make easily. Externally
supplied periodic scripts usually contain some documentation of their
settable variables within themselves. As /etc/periodic.conf should
contain only the overrides from the default settings, this is unlikely
to be a particularly taxing enterprise.

Cheers,

Matthew

It was just to save some typing. I replaced Sendmail with Postfix on 
both machines and
wanted to copy the periodic changes to the 6.2 system by replacing the 
whole file
with the changes from the 6.0 system. That is it. It seems to be 
working. That is the
only tampering I have done with periodic.conf. No one else uses my 
machines.

Thanks for the info.
Jeff K

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e-mail to root

2007-12-19 Thread jekillen

Hello:
Is there a manual or other publication that deals specifically with
reading e-mail messages to root for FreeBSD?  I have gotten a
message:

setuid diffs:
--- /var/log/setuid.today   Sat Sep  8 03:01:34 2007
+++ /tmp/security.9Jz0CWds  Wed Dec 19 03:01:38 2007

followed by references to various programs

then the next segment:
Checking for a current audit database:

Downloading fresh database.
auditfile.tbz   46 kB   42 kBps
New database installed.
Database created: Wed Dec 19 14:40:00 PST 2007

Checking for packages with security vulnerabilities:

followed by numerous references to programs and
files on the FreeBSD site.

and I do not know quite what this means. I know that setuid is cause
for concern. I have three other machines with FreeBSD, with one
going back over a year of virtually continuous 24/7 operation and
this is the first time I have seen this type of message. For the 
programs

reported with security problems it begs the question of dependencies
if they are removed or updated. Some references are to cups and 
fetchmail
neither of which I use or have use for, that I am aware of. This 
particular

machine is primarily a web server. It does have Postfix running but just
uses local delivery and only listens on private network interface.
I am also a little dubious about posting any specifics to a public 
mailing

list.
I am admittedly a novice at this (on all my own systems so no one
else's behind is on the line). Short of paying consultation fees to
someone, this is about the only live contact I have on the subject.
Thanks in advance for info:
Jeff K

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periodic.conf

2007-12-18 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I copied a periodic.conf file from a v6.0 system to
a v6.2 system.
Is there any incompatibility that I should be aware of?
Thanks In Advance;
Jeff K

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Re: Panic on boot

2007-12-16 Thread jekillen


On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Derek Ragona wrote:


At 07:32 PM 12/15/2007, jekillen wrote:


On Dec 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, jekillen wrote:


Hello;
I have had an AMD64 754 system that I have 64 bit SCSI card and
two 15k rpm SCSI drives. It has been running fine with FreeBSD v 6.0
for about two years now. I have several things I wanted to change
and reconfigure, software wise, and hardware wise. The first was a 
new
case which I got today. I shut down the system, put everything in 
the new
case and booted. It booted without any complaint. I got the V6.2 
install

cd and put it in. The system froze during boot process after an entry
for mpt 0. I turned off the power and tried rebooting into the 
install cd.
This time it made  it to sysinstall and went through slice and 
partitioning
and was in the process of installing the base system and it froze 
again,
no error messaged to console.  I rebooted and started again. The 
second

time I got all the way through the install process.

Now on reboot the system is panicking just after the line
mtp0 hidden device members(6)
The error is:
Fatal Trap 12 (the screen does not persist
long enough to transcribe it all.)
Three tries, the same thing in the same place in the boot
process.


I tried it agian and the same thing happened.
This time I got more of the error message.
'page fault while in kernel mode'



does this mean the scsi drives or card is  going bad? (I nope not)
the card is LSI Logic 64 bit card (installed in a standard PCI slot 
but

has been working with an inch of the card hanging off the end
of the slot. I only have one internal bus  available this way, but 
that is

all I need.
Thanks in advance for info
Jeff K
(chewing my fingernails)


Jeff,

Could be anything causing this from your move such as damaged ram or 
other component from static or a somewhat flaky power supply in the 
new case.


Have you run diagnostics on the hard drives?

Make sure all your power connectors are tight, no damaged cables.  It 
is easy with some SCSI cables to damage the cable or connectors, I 
know I have done that a few times.


If you can, separate the power to the hard drives to separate lines 
from the power supply rather than daisy chaining a power line with 
multiple connectors on it.


Have you tried other bootable OS's just to see if they crash too?


I was on the verge of panic myself because this machine is my primary 
DNS server.

But:
What I did was reinstall v6.0 to use as a control test and it installed 
without problem and runs without
a problem. It would appear that this combination of hardware does not 
work with FreeBSD 6.2.
I have another machine with a motherboard with PCI X (64 bit) slots and 
the same LSI logic board
installed with v6.2 and it works fine. I am guessing that 6.2 does not 
like the 64 bit SCSI card in a 32 bit
slot. Both are AMD64 processors but the one with v6.0 is using slot 754 
 processor on ECS Elite Group mb,
and the one with v6.2 is using socket AM2 with ASUS M2N32 ws pro mb; 
Perhaps a difference in the mtp driver(?)
Both are home built. Both have been working without problem (accept for 
this latest).
I do plan on getting another ASUS board like the one I have, but that 
is a $300+ board and I have to
get a new processor and ram for it also. So I have to engineer my 
budget for it.

Thanks for the response;
Jeff K

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Panic on boot

2007-12-15 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have had an AMD64 754 system that I have 64 bit SCSI card and
two 15k rpm SCSI drives. It has been running fine with FreeBSD v 6.0
for about two years now. I have several things I wanted to change
and reconfigure, software wise, and hardware wise. The first was a new
case which I got today. I shut down the system, put everything in the 
new

case and booted. It booted without any complaint. I got the V6.2 install
cd and put it in. The system froze during boot process after an entry
for mpt 0. I turned off the power and tried rebooting into the install 
cd.
This time it made  it to sysinstall and went through slice and 
partitioning

and was in the process of installing the base system and it froze again,
no error messaged to console.  I rebooted and started again. The second
time I got all the way through the install process.

Now on reboot the system is panicking just after the line
mtp0 hidden device members(6)
The error is:
Fatal Trap 12 (the screen does not persist
long enough to transcribe it all.)
Three tries, the same thing in the same place in the boot
process.

does this mean the scsi drives or card is  going bad? (I nope not)
the card is LSI Logic 64 bit card (installed in a standard PCI slot but
has been working with an inch of the card hanging off the end
of the slot. I only have one internal bus  available this way, but that 
is

all I need.
Thanks in advance for info
Jeff K
(chewing my fingernails)

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Re: Panic on boot

2007-12-15 Thread jekillen


On Dec 15, 2007, at 5:21 PM, jekillen wrote:


Hello;
I have had an AMD64 754 system that I have 64 bit SCSI card and
two 15k rpm SCSI drives. It has been running fine with FreeBSD v 6.0
for about two years now. I have several things I wanted to change
and reconfigure, software wise, and hardware wise. The first was a new
case which I got today. I shut down the system, put everything in the 
new
case and booted. It booted without any complaint. I got the V6.2 
install

cd and put it in. The system froze during boot process after an entry
for mpt 0. I turned off the power and tried rebooting into the install 
cd.
This time it made  it to sysinstall and went through slice and 
partitioning
and was in the process of installing the base system and it froze 
again,

no error messaged to console.  I rebooted and started again. The second
time I got all the way through the install process.

Now on reboot the system is panicking just after the line
mtp0 hidden device members(6)
The error is:
Fatal Trap 12 (the screen does not persist
long enough to transcribe it all.)
Three tries, the same thing in the same place in the boot
process.


I tried it agian and the same thing happened.
This time I got more of the error message.
'page fault while in kernel mode'



does this mean the scsi drives or card is  going bad? (I nope not)
the card is LSI Logic 64 bit card (installed in a standard PCI slot but
has been working with an inch of the card hanging off the end
of the slot. I only have one internal bus  available this way, but 
that is

all I need.
Thanks in advance for info
Jeff K
(chewing my fingernails)

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re Absolute FreeBSD

2007-12-14 Thread jekillen

Hi:
I have the book and am reading it. It suits me, in that docs and
man pages can be intimidating and hard to translate into some
thing useful (for me). The one thing about books like this is
that there are a lot more in the way of theory and tutorial
practice. I could not expect anyone to give me specific
instruction on the situations I encounter and have to engineer
my way through, but analogous tutorial, or at least vaguely
comparable descriptions can prime the inductive and deductive
logic process. I work alone, as a hobbyist and spend a god awful
lot on fat paperbacks. The investment is worth it to me. And
the Lucas books hit the spot. I am reading about NanoBSD.
That is the first time I heard of it.  I started with FreeBSD 6.0
and the books up to that point, including the first Absolute
BSD only covered 5x, so I am anxious to get up to current
status. True, as some of the responses to this subject have
said, at some point you  would or should grow beyond needing
to have books at hand. But with webmastering, hostmastering,
learning shells, postmastering, general system admin, programming,
 there is A LOT  of ground to cover. To cover it all fast enough and
be good enough not to need a book occasionally, I think is a little in
the realm of delusion.
My two cents

Jeff K

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Re: ntpd configuration file changes

2007-12-13 Thread jekillen


On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:57 PM, N.J. Thomas wrote:


* jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-12 20:42:47-0800]:

Q: When making changes to ntp.conf it is necessary to restart the
server?


According to the ntpd docs, yes. The ntpd configuration docs say this:

Ordinarily, ntpd reads the ntp.conf configuration file at startup
time in order to determine the synchronization sources and  
operating

modes.


Q: How is that done?


On FreeBSD, it is typically done via /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart.


(I suspect ntpd reload or restart per rc script.. along the lines of
apachectl restart or postfix reload??? Kill -HUP pid ??? ) I am
looking at FreeBSD handbook and ntp documentation and have not found
the answers.


See the Using rc under FreeBSD section of the Handbook:

 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ 
configtuning-rcd.html


It is based on Luke Mewburn's excellent NetBSD rc.d system. See the
document, The Design and Implementation of the NetBSD rc.d system
(PDF) here, it is an excellent read:

http://www.mewburn.net/luke/bibliography.html

Thomas

Thank you for your reply:
I missed it in the ntp docs I have. But maybe I was reading to fast
and impatiently.
I asked these questions because I switched the configuration file
that has all the tier 2 server listed to another machine and let the
remaining machines get time from it. So, now I can get on with it.
Jeff K

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ntpd configuration file changes

2007-12-12 Thread jekillen

Hello:
Q: When making changes to ntp.conf it is necessary to restart the 
server?

(I suspect yes)
Q: How is that done?
(I suspect ntpd reload or restart per rc script.. along the lines of 
apachectl restart

or postfix reload??? Kill -HUP pid ??? )
I am looking at FreeBSD handbook and ntp documentation and have not
found the answers.
thank you in advance for info
Jeff K

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Re: named mystery

2007-12-11 Thread jekillen


On Dec 11, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Bill Vermillion wrote:


On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 18:23 , while impersonating an expert on
the internet, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this to 
stdout:



Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:09:11 -0600
From: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: named mystery
To: jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED],	User Questions  
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org



At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote:

Hello:



I have two name servers for four domains.
The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0
and the secondary is running v 6.2.
I have an MX record for each of the four registered
domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host
mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record
database is for one of the sites. When I try to send
an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages
bounce for dns lookup failure.
The name that is being looked up is
 mxhost.domainName.tld.targetDomainName.tld



Some how the two names are being mashed together and then
looked up, causing the resolution failure.


As the other respondent noted, that was because of the missing
period.

I've found that 'nslint' in the /usr/ports/dns hierarchy
is a nice little program that will tell you all your errors.
I actually run it's output through a 'filter' to get rid of
extranous things such as 'in use by .xxx' as i have
several sites that respond to the same IP.


dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to
my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they
have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this.



There was a period missing after the MX host name record.
I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name
server just to insure that named got the change and checked the
secondary record and it has the change


You don't have to reboot Unix systems for almost all things which
don't require a kernel change.  named.restart   will do the job.

Happy day This is the first time I've seen this command. All
the stuff I have uses rndc reload etc. Right now rndc isn't working
(access denied, if it does that for me, I don't think I have anything
to worry about)
and I do not want to fool with it at the moment. Maybe sometime
when I've won the lottery and am bored to death with chasing women.
So my quick (impatient) approach was just to reboot. Any how dig
turns up the right stuff now, accept that I was still getting a reject
message from my ISP's server for lookup failure; with no explanation.
So I did [EMAIL PROTECTED] and related my sad tail. I think they
may be caching responses and rejecting based on a cached response.
I will have to see.
Jeff K




I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary
name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that
it is actually running at the time, it was and is.
but the bak file on the secondary server has
clip
IN  MX  10  host.domain.tld.
$ORIGIN targetDomain.tld.
/clip

when the record on primary server is
clip
@   IN  MX  10  host.domain.tld.
/clip
@ in this context should reference the domain this
file is for.
If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you
make any suggestions or recommendations?
thank you in advance
Jeff K



Jeff,


I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers.  The primary 
zone

files will have the:
@
while the secondary zone files will not have these.



In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines: ;
MX Record @ IN MX 10 mail.mydomain.com.

Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show
it is a fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in
this zone file.

On the secondary server the zone files has: MX 10
mail.mydomain.com.

In both files the 10 is the weight for the MX record. If you
have multiple servers you want to accept email, you would use
this number to designate the order they should get mail, smaller
numbers are primary to get email.



When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be
sure to change the serial number in that zone file. Also I
usually stop and start named on the primary. I also remove the
backup files on the secondary servers and stop and start named
on those too to see that the new files are transferred and thus
being used.


I have about 250 zones in my DNS and I've done something which
makes sure that I always have the correct date, but all the
domains will show the same date.

I've extracted much of what you put in a zone file and put
it in a file called   named.soa  .  And in each file
is used the $INCLUDE directive [quite handy] that
is   $INCLUDE named.soa

Then I just update the serial number in the one file.  It saves
a lot of time, particualary yesterday when one client of
a support house that uses our servers decided he needed
all the standard variants .com, .net, .biz, .mobi, .info, .org,
and .tv - plus 5 variants on his domain.

I'd just dupe the zone file and make global changes in 'vi

Re: named mystery

2007-12-11 Thread jekillen


On Dec 11, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Derek Ragona wrote:


At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote:

Hello:
 I have two name servers for four domains.
 The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0
 and the secondary is running v 6.2.
 I have an MX record for each of the four registered
 domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host
 mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record
 database is for one of the sites. When I try to send
 an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages
 bounce for dns lookup failure.
 The name that is being looked up is
  mxhost.domainName.tld.targetDomainName.tld

 Some how the two names are being mashed together and then
 looked up, causing the resolution failure.

 dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to
 my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they
 have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this.

 There was a period missing after the MX host name record.
 I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name
 server just to insure that named got the change and checked the
 secondary record and it has the change

 I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary
 name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that
 it is actually running at the time, it was and is.
 but the bak file on the secondary server has
 clip
IN  MX  10  host.domain.tld.
 $ORIGIN targetDomain.tld.
 /clip

 when the record on primary server is
 clip
 @   IN  MX  10  host.domain.tld.
 /clip
 @ in this context should reference the domain this
 file is for.
 If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you
 make any suggestions or recommendations?
 thank you in advance
 Jeff K


 Jeff,

 I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers.  The primary 
zone files will have the:

 @
 while the secondary zone files will not have these.

 In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines:
 ; MX Record
 @   IN MX   10  mail.mydomain.com.

 Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show it is a 
fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in this zone 
file.


 On the secondary server the zone files has:
     MX  10 mail.mydomain.com.

 In both files the 10 is the weight for the MX record.  If you have 
multiple servers you want to accept email, you would use this number 
to designate the order they should get mail, smaller numbers are 
primary to get email.


 When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be sure to 
change the serial number in that zone file.  Also I usually stop and 
start named on the primary.  I also remove the backup files on the 
secondary servers and stop and start named on those too to see that 
the new files are transferred and thus being used.


Yes, I did increment the serial number and put in the final dot. I am 
still getting test messages rejected for name service lookup 
failure--with no explanation.
I contacted the isp about it. It seems as though the rejection was base 
on a cached response.

Thanks for the info;
Jeff K

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named mystery

2007-12-09 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have two name servers for four domains.
The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0
and the secondary is running v 6.2.
I have an MX record for each of the four registered
domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host
mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record
database is for one of the sites. When I try to send
an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages
bounce for dns lookup failure.
The name that is being looked up is
 mxhost.domainName.tld.targetDomainName.tld

Some how the two names are being mashed together and then
looked up, causing the resolution failure.

dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to
my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they
have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this.

There was a period missing after the MX host name record.
I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name
server just to insure that named got the change and checked the
secondary record and it has the change

I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary
name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that
it is actually running at the time, it was and is.
but the bak file on the secondary server has
clip
IN  MX  10  host.domain.tld.
$ORIGIN targetDomain.tld.
/clip

when the record on primary server is
clip
@   IN  MX  10  host.domain.tld.
/clip
@ in this context should reference the domain this
file is for.
If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you
make any suggestions or recommendations?
thank you in advance
Jeff K

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relay host in sendmail?

2007-12-08 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I am using Absolute BSD, Second Ed.
and am looking in the section on Sendmail.
I cannot find where to specify a relay host.
I have a hosts that originate mail to remote
recipients but use a mail hub (Postfix) on
another machine on local network to
relay this mail to the outside. It is not spam.
These messages will be used to verify web
client supplied e-mail addresses.
Thank you in advance;
Jeff K

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Re: relay host in sendmail?

2007-12-08 Thread jekillen


On Dec 8, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Christian Walther wrote:


Hi,

On 08/12/2007, jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello:
I am using Absolute BSD, Second Ed.
and am looking in the section on Sendmail.
I cannot find where to specify a relay host.
I have a hosts that originate mail to remote
recipients but use a mail hub (Postfix) on
another machine on local network to
relay this mail to the outside. It is not spam.
These messages will be used to verify web
client supplied e-mail addresses.
Thank you in advance;
Jeff K



you can specify a smart host in sendmail.mc (or the mc-file created
for your host). The macro you need is already in there, you just need
to uncomment it. It's something like:

dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately
define(`SMART_HOST', `your.relay.host')

This looks like it is for dial up modem connection to an isp's mail 
servers.
But I do not see why it would not work for a relay host on the local 
network.
I have static ip addresses on DSL service. I will have to refresh my 
memory
on what is a smart host. This relay host would also relay the response 
to an
email verification message back to the originating host. And I am 
guessing
that would be a virtual domain alias in the relay host. I am learning 
as I go

along.
Thank you for your help. Much appreciated
Jeff K

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smtp in inetd.conf

2007-12-02 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have my system, running FreeBSD v6.2,
using Postfix.
The following line in inetd.conf is uncommented;
smtpstream  tcp nowait  qmaild  /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env  tcp-env 
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
and, I am getting messages on system boot that qmaild does not exist 
and is being ignored.

Is this line (in inetd.conf) necessary for Postfix to operate?
Or, should I modify the line to remove the references to qmail?
(Meanwhile I have commented the line to see what happens)
Thank you for info;
Jeff K 


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Re: short Q

2007-11-27 Thread jekillen


On Nov 27, 2007, at 2:50 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:


On November 26, 2007 at 07:53PM jekillen wrote:



Did you install this from ports? If so. the script would have been
placed
there all ready.

Yes, that is what provoked the original question. I had built and
installed
from source tarball in the past. But one machine was always a problem.
Once I did install from ports I was lacking info. The startup script
was not
in /etc/rc.d (although I have subsequently got into on
/usr/local/etc/rc.d)


That is where it belongs!

I had followed instructions from MySQL documentation and put the 
script
they supplied in /etc/rc.d; mysql.server, but for some reason the 
script

did not actually start MyQSL. But the systems seems to look for some
thing with mysql in the name and runs it if it is in /etc/rc.d. That 
is

how
I figured out what to do. (or maybe the system will try to run 
anything
that is in /etc/rc.d if there is a corresponding enable line in 
rc.conf

it
understands). The academic question is, is the program that runs the
startup routine, itself a script or is it a binary?
Thanks


If you are referring to the script in '/usr/local/etc/rc.d', it is 
just a

plain script. You can edit it.

No, I was referring to what ever runs the rc script. Is that init?
( could go back and look at Absolute BSD, and as a matter
of fact I am awaiting delivery of the new edition as I write this.


Is there a specific reason you installed from a tarball rather than 
use the
ports system? I have always installed MySQL from ports without any 
problems.
Originally, I was in a hurry and was having trouble with ports. This 
approach had
worked for three machines. But one I was having endless problems with. 
Meanwhile
I got it together to get ports to work. But the port did not install  a 
startup script for

MySQL, at least in /etc/rc.d,




Thank you for your response.
Jeff K

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Re: short Q

2007-11-26 Thread jekillen


On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:57 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:


On November 25, 2007 at 09:51PM jekillen wrote:


[ snip ]


Thank you all for responses.
I did get this straightened out:
It is mysql_enable=YES
and putting a script named mysql
in the /etc/rc.d directory with the
lines;
#! /bin/sh
/usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --user=mysql 
did the trick. This is what the mysql docs
prescribe for starting the server. Perhaps
that is not the best way to go about it at
system start, but it works.
Thanks again;
Jeff K


Did you install this from ports? If so. the script would have been 
placed

there all ready.
Yes, that is what provoked the original question. I had built and 
installed

from source tarball in the past. But one machine was always a problem.
Once I did install from ports I was lacking info. The startup script 
was not
in /etc/rc.d (although I have subsequently got into on 
/usr/local/etc/rc.d)

I had followed instructions from MySQL documentation and put the script
they supplied in /etc/rc.d; mysql.server, but for some reason the script
did not actually start MyQSL. But the systems seems to look for some
thing with mysql in the name and runs it if it is in /etc/rc.d. That is 
how

I figured out what to do. (or maybe the system will try to run anything
that is in /etc/rc.d if there is a corresponding enable line in rc.conf 
it

understands). The academic question is, is the program that runs the
startup routine, itself a script or is it a binary?
Thanks

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named problems

2007-11-25 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I am having some named problems:
The daemon will not start and run on system startup.
There is plenty of info on problems when named
is running, but not when it will not start.
I did get it to start after boot with
#named (su to root without - option)
It started and ran as demonstrated
with ps -aux. But the listing was
just user (me as mortal user) and
named as process (not as a path
to an executable, as is normal
for other processes).
The console messages at start up
gives me configuration file not found
errors. The files are there.
/etc/namedb/named.conf, rndc.key
/etc/namedb is a link to /var/named/etc/namedb where the config
files are. It is set up to be a slave server
for four domains.
How can I go about debugging this
situation?
My suspicions are ownership and permissions
are wrong, but how, and how to fix; ??
Thanks in advance
Jeff k

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Re: named problems

2007-11-25 Thread jekillen


On Nov 25, 2007, at 1:58 PM, bsd wrote:


Bind works perfectly out of the box on most FBSD recent versions.

You should not move things out of the path they have been setup to.
Specially on FBSD /etc is reserved for system files.

By default bind is installed in /var/named and should be kept there.

If I was you I would :
1. install the latest bind version from the port //
2. make sure you don't touch things unless absolutely necessary.
3. copy paste of modify the /var/named/etc/namedb/named.conf so that 
It corresponds to your needs.

4. make sure the /etc/rc.conf has the correct named values.
5. start it with the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ script for named //

Been runing this one with 1000 zones as both masters and slave never 
had any problem.


If you have more issue could give you a help on debuging bind.

My advice : STICK TO THE FBSD RULES AND PATH unless you perfectly know 
what you are doing.


Thank you for your response. I did not actually change anything with 
respect to locations and such,
but some of the permissions in /var/named/etc/namedb I had changed and 
could not find document-
ation to tell me specifically what they are supposed to be. And I was 
not able to deduce it. As it
turned out, I had a line at the end of named.conf that tried to include 
rndc.key file. I removed that
and named started and runs. Now my problem is getting more info on 
rndc. I am somewhat confused

about it. But I will get on top of that too, i expect.
ecrit...that's French for writes or has written... it's been over 40 
years since I took French in high school.

Thanks again much appreciated;
bonjour
Jeff K

Le 25 nov. 07 à 20:19, jekillen a écrit :


Hello;
I am having some named problems:
The daemon will not start and run on system startup.
There is plenty of info on problems when named
is running, but not when it will not start.
I did get it to start after boot with
#named (su to root without - option)
It started and ran as demonstrated
with ps -aux. But the listing was
just user (me as mortal user) and
named as process (not as a path
to an executable, as is normal
for other processes).
The console messages at start up
gives me configuration file not found
errors. The files are there.
/etc/namedb/named.conf, rndc.key
/etc/namedb is a link to /var/named/etc/namedb where the config
files are. It is set up to be a slave server
for four domains.
How can I go about debugging this
situation?
My suspicions are ownership and permissions
are wrong, but how, and how to fix; ??
Thanks in advance
Jeff k



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Re: short Q

2007-11-25 Thread jekillen


On Nov 25, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Gelsema, P ((Patrick)) wrote:


On Sun, November 25, 2007 21:18, Shantanoo Mahajan wrote:


On 26-Nov-07, at 1:23 AM, Paul Schmehl wrote:


--On November 23, 2007 9:04:01 PM -0800 jekillen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello:
Is this the way to start mysqld in rc.conf?
mysqld_enable=YES


head /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server
#
# Add the following line to /etc/rc.conf to enable mysql:
# mysql_enable (bool):  Set to NO by default.
#   Set it to YES to enable MySQL.
# mysql_limits (bool):  Set to NO by default.
#   Set it to yes to run `limits -e -U mysql`
#   just before mysql starts.
# mysql_dbdir (str):Default to /var/db/mysql
#   Base database directory.
# mysql_args (str): Custom additional arguments to be passed
#   to mysqld_safe (default empty).


Cheers

Patrick




Most ports that have daemons will have startup scripts in /usr/
local/etc/rc.d/.  Most of those scripts will include comments about
what switches are required in /etc/rc.conf to start the daemon.
Look there first for instructions.

If you look at the mysqld startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d,
you will notice that it says use msyqld_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf.


I do not have freebsd machine around to verify, but iirc, its
'mysql_enable'
and not 'mysqld_enable'.

regards,
shantanoo


Thank you all for responses.
I did get this straightened out:
It is mysql_enable=YES
and putting a script named mysql
in the /etc/rc.d directory with the
lines;
#! /bin/sh
/usr/local/bin/mysqld_safe --user=mysql 
did the trick. This is what the mysql docs
prescribe for starting the server. Perhaps
that is not the best way to go about it at
system start, but it works.
Thanks again;
Jeff K

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short Q

2007-11-23 Thread jekillen

Hello:
Is this the way to start mysqld in rc.conf?
mysqld_enable=YES

I ask because I have not found the specifics.
I copied the mysql.server script to the rc.d dir.
but the documentation only deals specifically
with Linux where startup scripts are concerned.
Thank you in advance;
Jeff K

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named fails to start and run

2007-11-23 Thread jekillen

Hi;
I am getting the following messaged when named attempts to start
at system startup:
could not configure root hints from 'named.root': file not found
loading configuration: file not found
So what is supposed to tell this script where to find these files?
(in FreeBSD rc script context: i looked over the script named in
rc.d dir, but could not glean anything from it)
They do exist in the proper places (assuming that loading 
configuration

means it is trying to read named.conf, or perhaps rndc.conf).
named version 9.x on FreeBSD 6.2
Extra info:
This is a secondary name server for four domains. It was running on
a laptop that died suddenly of hard drive failure. It was running Yellow
Dog Linux. I've had to reconstruct the server on the present machine
and I was not able to salvage the rndc.key file and rndc.conf from
that machine.

Thank you in advance;
Jeff k

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Re: short Q

2007-11-23 Thread jekillen


On Nov 23, 2007, at 9:25 PM, Josh Tolbert wrote:


On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:04:01PM -0800, jekillen wrote:

Hello:
Is this the way to start mysqld in rc.conf?
mysqld_enable=YES

I ask because I have not found the specifics.
I copied the mysql.server script to the rc.d dir.
but the documentation only deals specifically
with Linux where startup scripts are concerned.
Thank you in advance;
Jeff K


Hello Jeff,

Did you install MySQL from ports? If so, take a look at the rc script 
that

exists for MySQL in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and see what you need to put in
/etc/rc.conf.
yes, after a long saga of travail with mysql on this machine I did get 
it

up and running from ports.
Thank you for the info
Jeff K


If you didn't install MySQL from ports...Then yeah, you're pretty much 
on your

own. :)

Thanks,

Josh
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mysql ports

2007-11-22 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have installed mysql51-client,  mysql51-server, and  mysql51-scripts.
I looked for pkg_message in mysql51-scripts but there is none.
Where do I get info on what this port has and what it does?
Thank you for info
Jeff K

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mysql install Q

2007-11-20 Thread jekillen

Hello;
The following is what I get when I do mysql_install_db.
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libcrypt.so.2 not found, required 
by my_print_defaults
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libcrypt.so.2 not found, required 
by my_print_defaults

(yes, the same message twice)
I looked in ports for crypt but I do not know what exactly to look for 
to satisfy this complaint.

In addition I got the following complaint:
Neither host 'this_host.domain.tld' nor 'localhost' could be looked 
up with

./bin/resolveip
Please configure the 'hostname' command to return a correct hostname.
If you want to solve this at a later stage, restart this script with
the --force option
This is strange because this is also secondary dns server for the 
domain.


I looked in ports at what is available for mysql and there are a number 
of
listings for various versions. For a particular version there appear to 
be
three separate directories, client, server, and scripts.  I am a little 
confused
as to what all to build and install. Now that I have gotten a handle on 
using
ports, I am doing it that way instead of my initial approach, get the 
tarballs
unzip, configure, make and make install (and hope for the best). This 
happens

to be one of those, accept it is a prebuilt binary package.
mysql-max-5.0.18-freebsd5.3-i386 (hmmm...5.3?...)
I will try to remove every thing it installed and got to ports if I can 
not solve

the immediate problems.

Any advice, suggestions, data appreciated.
Thank you
Jeff k

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Re: Cyrus installed

2007-11-18 Thread jekillen


On Nov 18, 2007, at 12:27 AM, Per olof Ljungmark wrote:


jekillen wrote:

Hello:
I have installed Cyrus23 from ports and then read
the pkg-message and it has references to
/usr/local/cyrus and usr/local/etc/imapd.conf
both of which do not exist.
FreeBSD 6.2
Wouldn't the install have created these?
I have lots of docs on Cyrus and Postfix
but none specific to how ports does this.
I have postfix installed and running. Do I
have to redo it with cyrus support. One of
the documents I have seems to say yes.
I do not see anything specific in the
handbook.
Thanks in advance for guidance, suggestions
info, whatever;


Hi,
Look in:
/usr/local/share/examples/cyrus-imapd
where you can find skeleton config files.
Please note that you *must* configure your system to your enviroment, 
it will *not* work out-of-the-box.


I finally got it. I did not run make install, Silly me.
I have gone over the file Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO
and it does not actually indicate rebuilding Postfix with Cyrus
support. It just explains how to configure it for Cyrus.
For me, this is an ambitious learning process.
This file Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO is written for Linux
systems for the most part, so I have to translate into FreeBSD-ese.
I did run make install and now the missing dirs and files are there.
Now, for the actual configurations.
Thank you for your response;
Jeff K

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Sealed Server

2007-11-17 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I am planning on setting up Cyrus on a machine
and the documentation says that it is intended'
for use on 'sealed' servers (servers for which there
are no accounts that can log into the system)
However:
If I use ssh to administer the system, I have to
set it up so I can ssh directly to root, right.
and
Since there are references to use of MySQL
and the MySQL user is set up as a normal
user with a login/pwrd,
How do I get around that? (have MySQL
running on a different machine, or something?)
Please forgive my lack of sophistication on this
issue, I am learning.
(I have also been looking at Dovecot)
I have assembled some documentation on this
but have not found a direct answer, thus the
query here.
system uses Postfix on FreeBSD 6.2
One FYI that may be of interest:
I had my own dns servers listed in
resolv.conf before the isp's dns servers
and messages sent from this machine
(FreeBSD w/Postfix) were failing to deliver
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] due to dns lookup failures.
So I changed the order in resolv.conf (listing isp dns
servers first) and the messages were then delivered.
I  thought that if one server could not respond with
enough info, the next server would be tried until one
was successful (making order insignificant).
Thank you for any info;
Jeff k

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Re: Sealed Server

2007-11-17 Thread jekillen


On Nov 17, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote:


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jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I am planning on setting up Cyrus on a machine
and the documentation says that it is intended'
for use on 'sealed' servers (servers for which there
are no accounts that can log into the system)


This is really just trying to say that you don't need
a Unix login account in order to have an e-mail account
via Cyrus IMAPd.

Of course any server will require user accounts for its
administrators to be able to log in.



However:
If I use ssh to administer the system, I have to
set it up so I can ssh directly to root, right.


Wrong. The best practice is to require users to log in
as themselves (thus establishing some sort of audit trail)
and then use some program like su or sudo to gain rootly
powers.  At work we use a second instance of sshd bound to
a high-numbered port on the loopback so you can ssh to root
only after you've logged in and only if you've using
ssh-agent and your ssh public key is in root's
..ssh/authorized_keys file.

Thank you this answers these questions



and
Since there are references to use of MySQL
and the MySQL user is set up as a normal
user with a login/pwrd,


No -- mysql runs as a non-privileged user which doesn't need
to have any password set or any ability for anyone to get a
login session as the mysql user.  All that ID is for is to own
some files and the various mysqld processes.  This is a standard
practice with most long-running daemons exposed to the network:
it limits the damage that can be done by remote compromise of
the software.

and this accept, I know that MySQL has a separate set of user/passwords
and various levels of access privilege, When I built and installed 
MySQL I had
to create a mysql user as a normal user with password, unless I 
misunderstood.

Someone who knew this password would be able to log into the system as
user mysql (or the name that was given to mysqld to run as)

The best way to configure MySQL in that situation is to

* use 'skip-networking' in the configuration file.  This
  forces all connections to mysql to be via the unix domain
  socket in /tmp/mysql.sock

* Run 'mysql_secure_installation' to remove remote root access,
  set the root password, get rid of wildcarded logins etc.

* Review all user IDs and GRANTS carefully -- if you aren't using
  networking, then all your MySQL users should be
  'userid'@'localhost' Adopt a polict of *minimum privilege* --
  allow only the necessary access required for things to keep
  working.

* In order to prevent the MySQL root password being used routinely
  (which makes it far more likely to be disclosed), create a
  file /root/.my.cnf with contents like:

[client]
user = root
password = yourpassword

  Make sure the file is mode 600: read-write only for the owner
  With this in place, then once you've become the Unix root user
  you can then just type 'mysql' and get a root MySQL session
  without having to type any passwords.  ie. you rely on the
  security of your Unix root account to protect your MySQL
  root account.


Please forgive my lack of sophistication on this
issue, I am learning.
(I have also been looking at Dovecot)
I have assembled some documentation on this
but have not found a direct answer, thus the
query here.
system uses Postfix on FreeBSD 6.2


Dovecot is good, and its configuration -- particularly where stuff 
like SASL
is concerned -- is a lot easier for inexperienced users.  It will run 
a mail
server for tens of hundreds of users perfectly satisfactorily.  On the 
other
hand, if you're looking at thousands of users then Cyrus IMAPd is what 
you

need.


One FYI that may be of interest:
I had my own dns servers listed in
resolv.conf before the isp's dns servers
and messages sent from this machine
(FreeBSD w/Postfix) were failing to deliver
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] due to dns lookup failures.
So I changed the order in resolv.conf (listing isp dns
servers first) and the messages were then delivered.
I  thought that if one server could not respond with
enough info, the next server would be tried until one
was successful (making order insignificant).


Sounds like your own recursive DNSes weren't actually working.
Flaky DNS is the cause of most of the delays or failures that
spoil your user experience:


That is probably the cause, but editing resolv.conf was the quick fix.


 until you've thoroughly mastered managing
DNS servers, I'd recommend using your ISPs servers.  Having
reliable DNS will help you a great deal while you are debugging
your mail server setup.

Actually they work fine for what I set them up for. It was the recursive
aspect that I had forgotten about, but as I remember, there was a
security issue with regard to recursive queries so I have them disabled.
I have the isp's servers set up to relay queries to in my primary  
named.conf

and that is probably what I

Cyrus installed

2007-11-17 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have installed Cyrus23 from ports and then read
the pkg-message and it has references to
/usr/local/cyrus and usr/local/etc/imapd.conf
both of which do not exist.
FreeBSD 6.2
Wouldn't the install have created these?
I have lots of docs on Cyrus and Postfix
but none specific to how ports does this.
I have postfix installed and running. Do I
have to redo it with cyrus support. One of
the documents I have seems to say yes.
I do not see anything specific in the
handbook.
Thanks in advance for guidance, suggestions
info, whatever;
Jeff k

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re: Postfix, dns, and hosts.allow

2007-11-13 Thread jekillen

Sorry:
I sent this message by mistake before completing it.

I had also sent the same message to the postfix user
list.

Thank you in adance for into
Jeff K

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Postfix, dns, and hosts.allow

2007-11-13 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have a question about Postfix and
hosts.allow:
Sendmail and exim are mentioned in the
file and I assume that Sendmail would
refer to Postfix sendmail as well as Sendmail.
But Since Postfix runs smtp.d, how would I
do Postfix in hosts.allow?

I also have a question about how postfix
would resolve names outside of the local
domain, Does it use resolve.conf, hosts.equiv,
nsswitch or does it need a local name server.
I set it up and tried sending a test message
from that host the the prodigy.net address (of
this message) and it just seems to have disappeared.
I was successful sending a message on internal network
link from another machine. I was not successful sending
a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from another machine
(This address would have had to have been resolved
by my name servers, whether it went all the way out to
the isp's system and beyond, and then back, or just from
one static ip address to the other, courtesy of my adsl router ).

I did turn smtp 'on' in inetd.conf.

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cmos clock to utc time code?

2007-11-08 Thread jekillen

Hello again;
Here I am with another awkward question:
I have set up ntp and it is complaining that
the time difference is too great; 3606 or so
seconds, and wants the system clock set to
utc. I rebooted and entered bios set up
but I did not see any explicit clues on how
to set this clock to utc. (0r even if it is possible).
The motherboard is ECS w/AMD64. I did
not catch the bios vendor or version. If  I have
to I will reboot again to look at it or dig up the
manual for the motherboard.
I tried sysinstall but it just asks if the system
clock is set to utc. (thus the question here)
Any advice, suggestions, info appreciated;
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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Re: cmos clock to utc time code?

2007-11-08 Thread jekillen


On Nov 8, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Brent Jones wrote:


There's no time zone setting in a cmos clock.  Just set the time to
whatever UTC is, and you should be good to go.  Ideally though, you
should have the system do an ntpdate command first, which will take 
care

of the clock issue for you.  Just put:

ntpdate_enable=YES

in your rc.conf file, and it will run before ntpd starts.

I have ntpd_enable=YES
in /etc/rc.conf already, would there be a conflict?
While this machine is being configured with all the
functional software I want working, hub mail server with
Cyrus, Apache/php/mysql. while I am getting everything
set up and tested the machine will not be running 24/7
so ntpdate would probably be a better choice, but once
all is square with the world, it will be running 24/7 and I
have three other machines that will use it to get their
time set (unless I have misunderstood and this is not
possible or practical)
Thank you for your response
Jeff K



-Original Message-
Hello again;
Here I am with another awkward question:
I have set up ntp and it is complaining that
the time difference is too great; 3606 or so
seconds, and wants the system clock set to
utc. I rebooted and entered bios set up
but I did not see any explicit clues on how
to set this clock to utc. (0r even if it is possible).
The motherboard is ECS w/AMD64. I did
not catch the bios vendor or version. If  I have
to I will reboot again to look at it or dig up the
manual for the motherboard.
I tried sysinstall but it just asks if the system
clock is set to utc. (thus the question here)
Any advice, suggestions, info appreciated;
Thanks in advance
Jeff K


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Re: FreeBSD on a Mac

2007-11-08 Thread jekillen


On Nov 8, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Jack Barnett wrote:


James Jeffery wrote:

Was wondering.

Can i put FreeBSD on a Quicksilver G4?

I know it already has Tiger on it, which is BSD based, but i have no
use for Tiger at the moment.
At college were using Windows, and my old BSD box now has windows on
it so that i can keep
up with college assignments.

I still have BSD on the box, but on another partition, i loved FreeBSD
7, was really getting the
hang of it and testing out its web server capabilities, its a
nightmare switching the PC on and
off just to run a temp web server to test on.

Is it possible or is there a better solution?

Cheers
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You could also run FreeBSD inside of VMWare on your windows box.
IIRC the VMWare software is free for Windows.
There is also a port for FreeBSD (to run Windows in a VMWare with 
FreeBSD as the host) - but it hasn't been updated in a long time.
for that matter, couldn't you run dual boot with windows and FreeBSD? 
(Like you can with Windows and Linux?)

JK











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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-11-01 Thread jekillen


On Nov 1, 2007, at 11:18 AM, N.J. Thomas wrote:


* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-31 16:08:10 -0800]:

I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd
that there is no route to such and such address. It gives what
appears to be an interface card address.


ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay
offset  jitter
== 

 2610:1f8:d8:2:2 .INIT.  16 u-   6400.000 
0.000 4000.00
 2001:4830:1210: .INIT.  16 u-   6400.000 
0.000 4000.00
 hydrogen.cert.u 164.67.62.1942 u   10   643   13.909   
-261.61   2.936
 pubts2-sj.witim 64.125.78.85 2 u8   643   20.023   
-256.60   2.883


Here are the console messages:
ntpd (706) send to(2610:1f8:d8:2:216:cbff:fea3:4b2e:) no route to host
 (2001:4830:1210:0;280:10ff:fe00:48b9)   

are these ipv6 addresses? Or are they expecting authentication and
refusing connections?


The last two time servers seem to be communicating fine with your ntp
daemon. The bad ones look like IPv6 sites to me. What time servers do
you have listed in your ntp.conf file?

What is the output of grep -i server /etc/ntp.conf?


These are the servers I have listed:
server lain.ziaspace.com
#server ntp2.sf-bay.org
server reva.ziaspace.com
server hydrogen.cert.ucr.edu
server pubts2-sj.witime.net
The one commented out was not responding to ping.
I suppose I should find ones that are reachable via ipv4.
Jeff K

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Re: Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-10-31 Thread jekillen


On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote:


Jeff,


I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd that
there is no route to such and such address. It gives what appears to  
be

an interface card address.


As a general rule, please copy/paste the error message.


The
rest respond without hesitation, both to dig and ping.


The time server is not reponding to dig per se. Dig is a command to
resolve a name into an IP, so that is your DNS server that is
responding to dig.

Yes, I know, my message said it was complaining about what appear to
be arp addresses ( I think they are also referred to as MAC addresses)
I will try to reproduce an error message if I can get one to come up  
now.

Last night I edited ntp.conf to comment out a time server that was not
responding to pings but did turn up a dig response. The ntpd did give
me these messages, so just to get it out of my hair for a while I killed
it. Some time later I restarted it with the command line presented in
the FBSD handbook telling how to start the server. It did not give me
anymore problems.
Another poster requested I send the output from  ntpq -p.

ntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset   
jitter
 
==
 2610:1f8:d8:2:2 .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000  
4000.00
 2001:4830:1210: .INIT.  16 u-   6400.0000.000  
4000.00
 hydrogen.cert.u 164.67.62.1942 u   10   643   13.909  -261.61   
 2.936
 pubts2-sj.witim 64.125.78.85 2 u8   643   20.023  -256.60   
 2.883


Here are the console messages:
ntpd (706) send to(2610:1f8:d8:2:216:cbff:fea3:4b2e:) no route to host
 (2001:4830:1210:0;280:10ff:fe00:48b9)   
 #are these ipv6 addresses? Or are they expecting authentication and
refusing connections?
Thanks for the responses:
Jeff K


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Re: Name resolution solved

2007-10-30 Thread jekillen

Hello again:
I solved the problem with the name resolution associated
with installing ports via ftp, portsnap.
1. I found an erroneous entry in routing tables and removed it
   and rebooted.
There was no route to the default gateway because there was
another erroneous gateway entry before it. I believe removing
this solved it.
2. I did change a few settings in my primary named.conf file to
   allow for queries through a fire wall, and found one wrong
   network address reference. But I did not restart named on
   that machine, so the changes would not have effected the
   problem one way or another ( I believe) .
I tried pinging a remote site by name and it worked so I went
ahead with portsnap fetch and it worked.

Somehow I managed to get things right...eventually. Without
being a computer scientist/networking engineer/technician I
guess I am doing alright on my own, with help from great
people on this list.
Thanks
Jeff K.

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Now it is ntpd that can't find anything

2007-10-30 Thread jekillen

Hello again.
I set up ntpd on FreeBSD 6.2 and am getting complaints from ntpd that
there is no route to such and such address. It gives what appears to be
an interface card address. I found several time servers and listed them
in ntp.conf. One is unreachable as demonstrated by ping failure. The
rest respond without hesitation, both to dig and ping.
But why would ntpd be looking for interface addresses and not ip/domain
names?
The recent resolver problems I had have been solved, to the extent they
have been a problem. Is ntpd trying arp or rarp for these addresses or
is it something else I am not aware of? This is the first time I have 
dealt
with ntp. I am trying to follow instructions from latest FreeBSD 
handbook.

Thanks in advance;
Jeff K

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resolver problems

2007-10-28 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I am still having resolver problems with my 6.2 system.
It has shown up with trying to install ports from the ftp site.
I discovered that there is no resolv.conf file, so I created one.
The funny thing is if I ping one of my web sites with
www.domainName.com ping can't resolve the address.
but if I do actualHostName.domainName.com it works.
Just for control test purposes I tried from a Mac OSX machine
and was able to ping www.domainName.com. I even have
my own DNS servers listed as servers to contact in resolv.conf
To abbreviate this message, I am trying to get ports set up
and working.
This time I tried portsnap fetch and the site indicated as
the source and mirrors could not be found.
Any suggestions, help, advice is appreciated. I am going more
to the existing material, but it obviously cannot anticipate this
sort of problem literally.
Thanks In Advance:
Jeff K

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Name resolution

2007-10-27 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have been trying to tame the use of the ports mechanisms.
I set up a  system with a static ip connection to the internet
and when I run:

pkg_add -r csup-without-gui (verbatim from the freebsd handbook I  
downloaded just a few days ago)


I get this:
Error: FTP Unable to get  
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/ 
Latest/csup-without-gui.tbz: No address record
pkg_add: unable to fetch  
'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/ 
Latest/csup-without-gui.tbz' by URL


I checked inetd.conf and resolv.conf.
ftp is working in inetd.conf but when I went to
look in resolv.conf, there was no file by that name.
So I created one with my local nameservers and the ISP's nameservers.
All of my servers are connected to local network and public. I have
the name servers set to respond to requests from public network only
(I do not want anyone finding out the address numbers I use on the
private network)
But I am not sure whether these changes require that I reboot the  
machine.


The connection is live and working. I can ping another of my static ip
addresses, and other machines running on the private nework. But
if I ping one of my websites by name the ping cannot find it. so I know
it is a resolver issue, with no name server running on this machine.

I have to assume there is a local resolver, but since it is just a  
library, and

not a process, as I understand it, I am thinking that something needs to
be redone to use the file with the changes.

This is because after adding the file /etc/resolv.conf I still get the  
above

complaints.

I am doing this to keep in step with FreeBSD and I have a lot of  
software I
want to install for use with email. In the past I have bypassed ports  
with

programs like Apache, php, mysql and have had little problems. But now
I am 'growing up' to the idea that managing changes and removals will
be much easier if I do use ports. I just need to figure out what it  
wants

and expects, and what I can and should expect.

For instance, If I want to install Apache with php with gd and a lot of
other extensions that have to be built separately by hand so php
can include them and/or use them, how is that accomplished with
ports? Or, suppose I have Apache already installed and want to
install ssl. In the manual method ssl has to be prebuilt and configured
specific to Apache before Apache is built. Could I expect a series of
configure questions from the ports installation process to pick and
choose what I want included, or how I want it configured?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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Re: Name resolution

2007-10-27 Thread jekillen


On Oct 27, 2007, at 4:54 PM, RW wrote:


On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:42:02 -0700
jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello:
I have been trying to tame the use of the ports mechanisms.
I set up a  system with a static ip connection to the internet
and when I run:

pkg_add -r csup-without-gui (verbatim from the freebsd handbook I
downloaded just a few days ago)

I get this:
Error: FTP Unable to get
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.2-release/
Latest/csup-without-gui.tbz: No address record


It's called cvsup-without-gui, but you don't actually need it because
csup (a rewrite in C of the non-gui version of cvsup) is in the base
system.


thank you; your right it is cvsup, but the handbook indicates that I
could use csup in place of cvsup in the command line on v6.2 and up.
 But that does not seem to effect the resolver issue (unless I am
mistaken here and the resolver is actually working and it is just the 
reference)

Jeff K

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Re: Periodic.conf?

2007-10-25 Thread jekillen


On Oct 25, 2007, at 2:46 AM, Gerard wrote:


On October 24, 2007 at 09:50PM jekillen wrote:



The following was a response to a query I posted regarding how to
switch over to Postfix from SendMail:

Also, there are some periodic things that are ran which are SendMail
specific that need to be disabled. That is done within  
/etc/periodic.conf as

such:

daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO
daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
daily_submit_queuerun=NO

However, there is no periodic.conf on my system:
v6.2. There is a periodic directory with specific
subdirectories. One is 'daily' but I do not know
which one would have the above entries.


Create the /etc/periodic.conf file and populate it with the correct
information.


When I installed the OS, I had it include the
Postfix package when sysinstall queried for
package choices.
I want to set this machine up as a hub mail server
for four web sites on four separate machines that
are connected via inside network. I have not dealt
with e-mail related software in general and Postfix
or Sendmail specifically. Since I brought in Postfix
as a package, I am afraid of trying to install it from
Ports for complications, unless ports will account
for that.


You could delete the package and then install it from ports.


There were also advices to place several entries
in rc.conf to disable SendMail. There are no entries
either for SendMail, not Postfix there to begin with
in rc.conf.


You have to add them. Please read /usr/ports/mail/postfix/pkg-message   
for
further details. That is the last stable version of Postfix, by the  
way. The

beta version is under 'postix-current'. You should also check out:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail- 
changingmta.html


for further details.



In mailer.conf I was told it should look like this:
sendmail/usr/local/sbin/sendmail
send-mail   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
mailq   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
newaliases  /usr/local/sbin/sendmail

There were two other entries, hoststat and
purgstat. Should these be kept, modified
or eliminated?

If you install Postfix from the ports system, it will offer to make  
these

modifications for you. See my above comment.



Thank you for the data; Much appreciated
Jeff k

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Periodic.conf?

2007-10-24 Thread jekillen

Hello;
The following was a response to a query I posted regarding how to 
switch over to Postfix from

SendMail:

Also, there are some periodic things that are ran which are SendMail 
specific
that need to be disabled. That is done within /etc/periodic.conf as 
such:


daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO
daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
daily_submit_queuerun=NO

However, there is no periodic.conf on my system:
v6.2. There is a periodic directory with specific
subdirectories. One is 'daily' but I do not know
which one would have the above entries.
When I installed the OS, I had it include the
Postfix package when sysinstall queried for
package choices.
I want to set this machine up as a hub mail server
for four web sites on four separate machines that
are connected via inside network. I have not dealt
with e-mail related software in general and Postfix
or Sendmail specifically. Since I brought in Postfix
as a package, I am afraid of trying to install it from
Ports for complications, unless ports will account
for that.
There were also advices to place several entries
in rc.conf to disable SendMail. There are no entries
either for SendMail, not Postfix there to begin with
in rc.conf.

In mailer.conf I was told it should look like this:
sendmail/usr/local/sbin/sendmail
send-mail   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
mailq   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
newaliases  /usr/local/sbin/sendmail

There were two other entries, hoststat and
purgstat. Should these be kept, modified
or eliminated?

I plan on setting up a test system on the local net.
And when that appears to be working properly, I
will add it to the DNS records and hook in up to
the public network.
I am looking to learn to setup and administer mail systems
I am a hobbyist at this point, but I have static IP addresses
and do web design and related programming, art, music and
graphics and have several services that will need a mail server
to run e-mail address verification checks and registration verification
checks, as well as be a personal mail system so I can let the
prodigy.net address just be a spam catcher.
I am not looking to spam anyone.
Thanks in Advance;
Jeff K

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Re: .PICT mac file

2007-10-03 Thread jekillen


On Oct 3, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Norberto Meijome wrote:


Hi everyone,
I have a load of .pict files which I can't seem to be able to open 
with anything under FBSD. I just want to convert them into something 
more useful (jpg / tiff / svg).


ImageMagick doesn't understand it, so i think this is the Packbits 
compressed .PICT filetype. neither Gimp or XV like them either.


file doesn't identify the files either.

Alternatively, any tool I can script under OSX to conver them to 
something useful? (FYI, 'Preview' under Tiger doens't recognise them 
either, but I can drag them just fine into an Omnigraffle Pro 
diagram).


One of these files is at 
http://www.meijome.net/files/freebsd/image64.pict


thanks,
Beto
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Intellectual: 'Someone who has been educated beyond his/her 
intelligence'

   Arthur C. Clarke, from 3001, The Final Odyssey, Sources.

I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery 
when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is 
worse. You have been Warned.


You may have to use a program like Photoshop; Mac version to do the 
work. I have been using Mac since 1996 and have seen pict files but 
have avoided them mostly
in favor of tif or jpeg. I do not have any Classic Mac installations 
and do not do graphics as much as I used to but I don't recall even 
seeing pict as a file option for
graphics software on Mac, Photoshop, or other program that edits image 
files.
Since X11 can be installed on OSX and Gimp will run on Mac under X11, I 
would think that it would have accommodation for that.
I just launched it and did not see that as a save as option. There is a 
stripped down version of Photoshop available, Photoshop Elements

that may do it without the cost of Photoshop.
But there is probably someone with more knowledge on this than I.
Good Luck;
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Re: question about Postfix

2007-10-02 Thread jekillen


On Oct 1, 2007, at 7:58 PM, Joe in MPLS wrote:




jekillen wrote:


Hello;
I have a quick question about Postfix.
When I install Free BSD and have it
include Postfix  from packages, does
the install process completely replace
Sendmail with Postfix, or do I still have
to replace Sendmail with Postfix separately?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K


The package install of postfix does nothing to sendmail. It's not like 
the MTA switch utility found in some linux distros. Just turn off the 
various bits of sendmail in /etc/rc.conf and start postfix.


...jgm





Postfix does include an executable named sendmail that directly 
replaces some of the old sendmail capability.


This is what is confusing me some. I have a text from SAMS on Postfix 
and it talks about renaming several
sendmail related files and removing the suid permissions on them. 
Because both Sendmail and Postfix are
extensive systems, getting all the cogs and gears together looks like a 
real challenge to me.


Thanks for the info;
much appreciated
Jeff K
(not looking to spam anyone, just set up a mail servers to service 
several domains)


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Re: question about Postfix

2007-10-02 Thread jekillen


On Oct 1, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Duane Hill wrote:


On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 at 19:50 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated:


Hello;
I have a quick question about Postfix.
When I install Free BSD and have it
include Postfix  from packages, does
the install process completely replace
Sendmail with Postfix, or do I still have
to replace Sendmail with Postfix separately?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K


If you install Postfix from the ports collection:

  /usr/ports/mail/postfix

toward the end of the install process, it will ask you if you wish for 
the install to make changes in /etc/mail/mailer.conf. You tell it yes. 
If it did not ask, /etc/mail/mailer.conf should look like this:


sendmail/usr/local/sbin/sendmail
send-mail   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
mailq   /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
newaliases  /usr/local/sbin/sendmail

This is what so-to-speak plugs Postfix into the OS.

To totally disable SendMail from running at startup after a reboot, 
you have to make some additions to the /etc/rc.conf config file. 
Namely, you have to add:


sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO

Also, there are some periodic things that are ran which are SendMail 
specific that need to be disabled. That is done within 
/etc/periodic.conf as such:


daily_clean_hoststat_enable=NO
daily_status_mail_rejects_enable=NO
daily_status_include_submit_mailq=NO
daily_submit_queuerun=NO


O.K. This is something I have not been aware of. As far as MTA's on any 
system I am somewhat of a newbe. I do get regular e-mails to the root 
accounts of my
various (four) systems when they are running constantly, (two are) and 
I have been wondering how a switch over will effect that.
I will need to do a system specific configuration of postfix and define 
system specific aliases, prevent public use of the servers for open 
relaying and such. So I

expect for a first timer I have my work cut out for me.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
Jeff K
(I'm not looking to spam anyone)

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question about Postfix

2007-10-01 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have a quick question about Postfix.
When I install Free BSD and have it
include Postfix  from packages, does
the install process completely replace
Sendmail with Postfix, or do I still have
to replace Sendmail with Postfix separately?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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Re: using the date command

2007-09-30 Thread jekillen


On Sep 29, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:


To set time:

$ sudo /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org
29 Sep 23:48:31 ntpdate[9404]: adjust time server 66.250.45.2 offset
0.001289 sec

To date info about your timezone settings:

$ zdump /etc/localtime
/etc/localtime  Sat Sep 29 23:49:19 2007 EDT

Options:

$ ls /usr/shaoneinfo/ | egrep -v ^d
total 78
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel755 Aug 22 11:11 CET
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel837 Aug 22 11:11 CST6CDT
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel679 Aug 22 11:11 EET
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 56 Aug 22 11:11 EST
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel837 Aug 22 11:11 EST5EDT
[...]

To set timezone:

$ ln -s /share/zoneinfo/$WHATEVER /etc/localtime

For you probably PST8PDT.

For your best NTP experience, use OpenNTP from
ports: /usr/ports/net/openntpd/

~BAS

Thanks for the info, very helpful;
Jeff K



On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 20:33 -0700, jekillen wrote:

Hello all;
I have built 4 machines and installed FreeBSD 6.0 in one and 6.2
in the other three. They are all using the wrong date and time.
The last one (v6.2 on ecs mb with AMD64) is the worst. It is telling
me today is Jan 3 2003 PST (I am on the west coast and it is still 
PDT).

These machines are all web servers. So up until now this has not been
a big issue but a configuration of software is complaining that the
files
it creates have an older date than the files in the software bundle,
it is time to do something about it. So I am looking at man date and 
as

I interpret the instructions #date ccyymmddHHMM.ss  (20079282027.00 or
200709282027.00 for instance) is supposed to set the
clock to the current date. But when I run a command with the
current date and time in the above format I get the complaint that
the format string is wrong.
Can anyone be kind enough to give me a quick tutorial on this?
I will be looking seriously into using NTP, but for now I need to
get the date straight. I have entries in apache error log gener
ated by php scripts that are supposed to use its date command.
Thanks in advance for assistance.
Jeff K

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Re: using the date command

2007-09-30 Thread jekillen


On Sep 30, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Bruce Cran wrote:


Brian A. Seklecki wrote:

To set time:

$ sudo /usr/sbin/ntpdate pool.ntp.org
29 Sep 23:48:31 ntpdate[9404]: adjust time server 66.250.45.2 offset
0.001289 sec

ntpdate is deprecated, you should use ntpd -q instead if you want 
ntpd to set the time once then exit.  From ntpdate(8):


Note: The functionality of this program is now available in the ntpd(8)
program.  See the -q command line option in the ntpd(8) page.  
After a
suitable period of mourning, the ntpdate utility is to be retired 
from

this distribution.

Also, ntpd wil refuse to update the time if the delta is more than 
1000s by default, but you can use the -g option to override this.   To 
set the date to within a reasonable delta, use something like date 
200709282027.  If you want to set the time more accurately using NTP, 
edit /etc/ntp.conf and add server pool.ntp.org to it.  Save it then 
run ntpd -q.  If you need to configure the time zone, an easy way to 
do this is to run sysinstall and select Configuration -- Time Zone.

To date info about your timezone settings:

$ zdump /etc/localtime /etc/localtime  Sat Sep 29 23:49:19 2007 EDT

Options:

$ ls /usr/shaoneinfo/ | egrep -v ^d
total 78
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel755 Aug 22 11:11 CET
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel837 Aug 22 11:11 CST6CDT
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel679 Aug 22 11:11 EET
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 56 Aug 22 11:11 EST
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel837 Aug 22 11:11 EST5EDT
[...]

To set timezone:

$ ln -s /share/zoneinfo/$WHATEVER /etc/localtime

For you probably PST8PDT.

For your best NTP experience, use OpenNTP from
ports: /usr/ports/net/openntpd/

~BAS



On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 20:33 -0700, jekillen wrote:


Thanks, more very helpful info;
Jeff K

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Re: using the date command

2007-09-30 Thread jekillen


On Sep 30, 2007, at 6:13 PM, RW wrote:


On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:17:30 -0700
jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Sep 30, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Bruce Cran wrote:



ntpdate is deprecated, you should use ntpd -q instead if you want
ntpd to set the time once then exit.  From ntpdate(8):

Note: The functionality of this program is now available in the
ntpd(8) program.  See the -q command line option in the ntpd(8)
page. After a
suitable period of mourning, the ntpdate utility is to be
retired from
this distribution.

Also, ntpd wil refuse to update the time if the delta is more than
1000s by default, but you can use the -g option to override this.
To set the date to within a reasonable delta, use something like
date 200709282027.  If you want to set the time more accurately
using NTP, edit /etc/ntp.conf and add server pool.ntp.org to it.
Save it then run ntpd -q.


And if you then add

ntpd_enable=YES
ntpdate_enable=YES

to rc.conf, it will all work automatically thereafter. ntpdate will run
at boot-time followed by ntpd.

The removal of ntpdate is something I'll believe in when it happens.
ntpd -q is a superior drop-in replace for ntpdate when it's being run
from cron. OTOH if you run ntpd -q in place of ntpdate at boot (before
starting ntpd), it adds about 15 seconds to the boot-time for no
significant benefit.


Thanks for the info.
So ntp, as I understand it, has to have time servers to reference, and 
of course
the system has to be connected to the  public network to contact the 
time servers.
Are there any security issues with ntp? Or, where can I find info on 
security issues

related to ntp?
Update on original question related to the use of date in FreeBSD; I 
finally brightened

up and set the time in the bios.
Jeff K

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using the date command

2007-09-29 Thread jekillen

Hello all;
I have built 4 machines and installed FreeBSD 6.0 in one and 6.2
in the other three. They are all using the wrong date and time.
The last one (v6.2 on ecs mb with AMD64) is the worst. It is telling
me today is Jan 3 2003 PST (I am on the west coast and it is still PDT).
These machines are all web servers. So up until now this has not been
a big issue but a configuration of software is complaining that the 
files

it creates have an older date than the files in the software bundle,
it is time to do something about it. So I am looking at man date and as
I interpret the instructions #date ccyymmddHHMM.ss  (20079282027.00 or
200709282027.00 for instance) is supposed to set the
clock to the current date. But when I run a command with the
current date and time in the above format I get the complaint that
the format string is wrong.
Can anyone be kind enough to give me a quick tutorial on this?
I will be looking seriously into using NTP, but for now I need to
get the date straight. I have entries in apache error log gener
ated by php scripts that are supposed to use its date command.
Thanks in advance for assistance.
Jeff K

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Hard drive RPM

2007-09-19 Thread jekillen

Hello;
Is there a utility for measuring the effective RPM of a hard disk?
A software tackometer?
I have IDE drives, SATA drives, both 7200 and 10,000 RPM,
as well as SCSI disks that are supposed to be running at 15k
RPM. I noticed that on the hard drive labels, those on the disk
case itself do not specifically indicate what speed they are supposed
to operate at. The two 10k SATA drives only had labels on the
antistatic packaging indicating that they are 10k drives. I would
like to verify the speeds of these drives. I am hoping that this is
not a case of misrepresentations that I have found on network
attached hard disk storage devices and Firewire drives.
I have one that was expressly advertised on the package to be
120 Gb capacity, and in fact only 111Gb are available for storage.
That is a 9 Gb discrepancy. A Fire wire drive I have is also designated
as 120 Gb and actually only has 117 Gb usable capacity.
Like 9Gb is enough for several operating systems. 3Gb is even
enough for an operating system.

Can anyone shed some light on this? (Storage device labeling,
and specifically, RPM specs)

I would ask the manufacturers but would be suspicious of bias
responses. That is what I got from one of them already.

Thanks in advance for responses.
The hard drives in question are running on FreeBSD systems
on homebuilt hardware. All AMD64 processors, ECS, Gigabyte,
and ASUS motherboards, Hard drives are Western Digital IDE,
SATA, and Seagate SCSI drives.

Jeff K

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Re: Hard drive RPM

2007-09-19 Thread jekillen


On Sep 19, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Rob wrote:


Derek Ragona wrote:
Run the manufacturer's diagnostic utility to check the drives speed 
and performance.  Most of these utilities also give you the drive 
model and serial number as well.  Look for a self-booting version 
that is a cd-rom ISO, these usually run FreeDOS to easily access the 
hardware from a cd-rom boot image.


I'd suggest the Ultimate Boot CD here:  
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
It's a bootable ISO image with all the major disk mfgr's diags and 
other good stuff, ready to go.


  -RW


Thanks for both these responses.
JK

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ip assignments

2007-09-09 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have a question about ip address assignments to multiple
network interfaces on the same machine (running, in this case,
FreeBSD v6.2).
Situation:
I have built a machine with two network interfaces and tried
assigning local addresses in the same subnet mask:
192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2 for example to each of the
interfaces and only one of the interfaces will respond to
a connection attempt (via ftp or ssh for example). I found
that each of the interfaces have to be assigned an address
in a different subnet. for them to both be usable.
Q: Is this characteristic of tcp/ip in general, or specific
to FreeBSD?
I have created aliases for different addresses in the same
subnet on one interface and have had that work.
Thanks for knowledgeable responses;
Jeff K

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panic:vm_fault saga

2007-08-31 Thread jekillen

Hi;
I have not been able to get the boxed set v6.2 install cd 1 to boot
on MSI RX480 Neo2 motherboard/amd64 processor. I started
with an IDE hard drive that I was going to use as boot drive for
OS. I have had panics related to USB controller, ps2 mouse,
md0 and sci0 com port. Disabling the usb controller solves that
accept for a bios setting that seems to work with usb enabled.
It seems to have to do with extended ROM associated with
Realtek ethernet device.
I took out the IDE hard drive because it seemed to give the
system detection problems. It was taking over a minute to
enter the bios setup. I replaced it with another SATA drive.
Now the delay is gone (some problem with the IDE hard drive ??)
The panic related to ps2 mouse was solved by disconnecting
the mouse.
I got what md0 is, memory disc.
The upshot of all of this boils down to one of two possibilities:
There is a problem with this motherboard, or there is some in
compatibility with FreeBSD. Just for kicks I tried booting from
6.0 install cd and got the same result as panic related to md0.
All of the  6.2 panics give the same; vm_fault on no fault entry.
The 6.0 panic message gives too much data to transcribe before
it reboots.
I would take this to mean that vm in vm_fault is virtual memory.
And I am guessing that the kernel on the install cd is trying to
create a temporary swap partition on one of the hard drives and
is having trouble with it.
The short question is, how can I get FreeBSD install cd boot
on this machine, or from misbehavior does it appear possible?
(one other paranoid possibility, MSI and Microsoft conspired
to sabotage attempts to install alternative OS). I will try a linux
distro just for kicks and see what happens.

notes for an X Files episode: I have installed 6.2 from the same
install set on an ASUS/amd64 machine successfully.
So the install disc 1 could have been damaged, the Logitec ps2
mouse is bad all of these possibilities all at once does not seem 
likely.

But it does tend to imply a hardware problem in general. (yes/no?)

Thanks in advance for info, data, consolation, whatever.
Jeff K

 


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panic:vm_fault on nofault device (etc...)

2007-08-29 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I am trying to get a new machine to boot from v6.2 install disc one of 
packaged cd set.

The mother Board I am using is MSI RX480 NEO 2 w/AMD64.
At first I got the message usb1:panic: vm_fault on nofault device and 
an address

I disabled usb in the bios then rebooted.
next I got the same message (without reference to usb1) just after psm0 
which I

surmised was the ps2 mouse. I unplugged it an rebooted.
I am now getting the same message after mo something or another. I did 
not

transcribe the message to reproduce here.

One annoyance about this mother board right off the launch pad is how 
long
it takes to enter bios. I seems to take forever to detect the three 
hard drives I
have installed: to be boot drive is ide and the other two are 10k SATA 
drives.
It also wants to get up on the network via on board ethernet out of the 
box. I had
to fumble around in bios to see if I could dope out what setting would 
kill that.
(how can it get on a network if I cannot install an os and set up the 
network
card in the first place?). I did find a setting that looked 
suspiciously extra
related to the onboard ethernet driver (realtek, etc etc. ) and 
disabling that

seemed to do the trick. I was something having to do with ROM associated
with the driver. (anyone who wants more specific data, let me know and I
will go back and write it down. It is late tonight (11:30) and I have 
been screwing

around with this since about 8:00 P.M.)

Does anyone have advice or data to enlighten me on this situation 
(panic: vm_fault)?
I have used the same cd set to successfully install on ASUS/AMD64 
socket AM2.


usb I can live without, ps/2 mouse I do not need as I will run a server 
w/o xwindows
The next device I am not sure about. And I hope I can get all the 
problem children

placed in foster homes so I can get my show on the road.

Thanks in advance.
Jeff K

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device designation

2007-08-29 Thread jekillen

Hello again:

What is device with designation md0?
I am trying to boot from install 6.2 cd in cd boxed set
on MSI model# RX480 Neo2 motherboard/ AMD64 processor
Right after an entry in the boot sequence referring to this
The kernel panics with vm_fault on no fault entry (and an address).
This panic had happened with usb controller enabled so I disabled it.
It also happened right after entry for psm0 (p/s2 mouse) so I 
disconnected

the mouse.
Now it is happening with this md0 device with path reference to 
/boot/mfsroot
I looked on the FreeBSD site for supported hardware  and did not find 
any
info for specific motherboards, only general reference to AMD and Intel 
processors

which I take to imply that this motherboard should be supported.

Can anyone give me some direction on this matter?

Re: previous post on this matter for which there has been not response 
as yet;
I solved the problem with the system trying to get on the network. It 
was because
the cd ide cable was not properly seated in the socket so it was not 
being detected.
The system seemed the think that there would be a boot device on the 
network
and was sending queries to a dhcp server...that does not exist. I fixed 
the ide cable

and the other problem disappeared.

Thanks in advance;
Jeff K

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Re: Apache access log shows these attack requests

2007-06-13 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have not understood what the request for - - meant. Thank you, 
this as shed a lot of light on it. I
have seen that fairly frequently in my Apache logs. But on one of my 
machines that serves as
secondary name server I also had Apache running to serve a place holder 
site. It was attacked
but voluminous request for that, so much so that it was causing Apache 
to kill processes for
lack of memory. The machine does not have a lot of RAM at its disposal, 
so it was not too surprising.

I do not run Apache on this machine, now, because of that.
I would like to know how do you disallow 'no referrer' and 'no 
browser'? Is this a server configuration
issue? I have not seen mention of this in texts on Apache, nor the 
manual. And queries of the
Apache mailing list yielded indistinct results. I am not running a 
proxy on the public server.
I have shell and ftp access blocked from out side. I am using php as 
application server.
I am running several machines with FreeBSD 6.0 and 6.2 as web servers. 
Only one serves my public addresses.

I am using Apache 1.3.x.
Thanks in advance for guidance.
Jeff K

220.137.74.222 - - [12/Jun/2007:02:07:08 +1000] CONNECT 
msa-mx10.hinet.net:25 HTTP/1.0 403 272 - -


403 = Permission denied.  In this case, because


 I disallow 'no referrer'  plus 'no browser' (- -) connects from 
non-local addresses



 blocking
heaps of rogue robots, but CONNECT requests don't work anyway in apache
1.3 in default configuration .. older logs show 405 responses to these.



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Re: Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-14 Thread jekillen


On May 13, 2007, at 7:13 PM, WizLayer wrote:


On Sunday 13 May 2007 07:17:14 pm Aftab Jahan Subedar wrote:

Would it recharge the battery fully after discharge? I dont think so.
So you got to  recharge the external battery EXTERNALLY after power
failure.


What's wrong with that?  Trickle-charge the battery and ride the 
computers
from the battery at the same time...  That's an uninterrupted power 
supply.
A voltage regulator, converter, and a few filters will give you a 
clean,
constant supply.  It will last longer, and it's a lot cheaper in 
comparison.


Actually, this is a project of mine that's been on the back burner for 
years
now.  I'd like to add a network interface for remote controls, some 
health
checking, and test modes, but would have to incorporate an embedded 
processor

(serial port and/or USB interfaces are just as possible).

Being that I've never messed with such, any suggestions as far as a 
good
processor to start with?  It doesn't necessarily have to be a 
processor that
will do the whole kit-n-kaboodle.  Right now, I'm just looking for 
something

I can learn the basics with.

I know it's not a BSD-related question, but I figured I'd ask anyway.

Thanks

WizLayer



This is another approach that seems like it would be practical:
Use deep cycle car batteries, trickle charge with solar panels.
If a desktop computer can run on square wave generated by
dc/ac converter, use that as a power backup system, It would
have to have some kind of switching system to detect main
power drop and switch to the backup system.
Perhaps someone would be willing to, with engineering expertise
put together servers that would work on laptop batteries, like a
laptop. I do have one machine that has Yellow Dog linux (Mac
Powerbook 3400c) that runs 24/7 as my backup DNS server.
JK

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Auto shutdown/restart software for FreeBSD?

2007-05-12 Thread jekillen

Hello again;
Is there software for ups auto shutdown and restart for use with a ups
system that has the capacity; I.E. a serial connection and references
in the manual to software (for Windows mostly) download? Currently
I have a Vesta Pro 600 unit. I had one made by Minuteman that crapped
out on me last night. It had been doing ok and was a replacement for one
made by Tripp Lite, which also failed permanently. I am running one desk
top FreeBSD system, headless but with high speed SCSI drives in addition
to the boot drive. I am away during the week for at least 8 - 9 hours 
during

the week and cant be there if the power goes down to shut the system
down before the ups exhausts its battery.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Jeff K.

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cleaning uploads

2007-05-02 Thread jekillen

Hello again:
Does anyone on this list know of a system or software bundle
that can be used with php to clean uploaded files. Specifically,
embedded php or shell scripts, shell escape chars, viruses,
executable code in image files, anything that might be hazardous
in any file that might be capable of being sent as an e-mail attachment?
Using FreeBSD 6.2, Apache 1.3.37,  php 5.2.1, web site to receive
uploads will be using ssl.
I have asked on the php general question list but have not gotten
a useable response.
Thanks in advance;
Jeff K

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no libphp5.so

2007-04-01 Thread jekillen

Hello agian;
I have been gripping about
php not producing libphp5.so
for use as a DSO with Apache
on FreeBSD v 6.2
 good news 
I solved it.
By re installing the system
and starting all over again.
After reading the output of ./configure
in the php source dir, it was reporting
that it could not find a compatible version
of Bison.
I cannot say that that is THE cause, but
whatever it was re installing solved it.
I did not get any responses so there
is no one in particular to thank but
thanks all, FreeBSD is free software
and what works is far greater in volume
and value than what does not
Now if only we could get to the developers
of the human (user level) mind, maybe we could
debug that and be better off.
Jeff K

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Re: Install with modified kernel?

2007-03-28 Thread jekillen


On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


jekillen wrote:


On Mar 27, 2007, at 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, jekillen wrote:


Hello:
Is it possible to install FreeBSD ( in this case v6.2 GENERIC
RELEASE) with a modified kernel?
I am having some network problems with an installation on ASUS N2M32
WS pro (AMD64) mb.
I want to try installing without fire wire emulation support, which
means I have to modify the
kernel to eliminate it. But if I install and then modify the Kernel,
it will have made its mark.
Please forgive me it this seems like a stupid question. It probably
is but I just want to be
certain.
Thanks in advance.
Jeff K


Jeff,
Of course you can! Please read this chapter in the handbook,  
which

describes the process in great detail:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ 
kernelconfig.html.


As for the network problems, what exactly are you experiencing?
-Garrett



Hehe.. fun... it appears that I probably got myself into a real mess
with the hardware I just purchased (ATI card, Soundblaster X-Fi card,
Asus motherboard full of nForce stuff :(..). Oh well, I've learned my
lesson I suppose *sign*.

You should probably tell what you told me to the questions@ list
though. I'm not the only one in the freebsd community, ya know ;)?
-Garrett


There's more, as a matter of fact, I should write an FYI. It involves  
much

more than just the interface problem.
Here goes:
I made the mistake of thinking I could use a 64 bit PCIx SCSI adapter in
PCIe slots. Now I have one MSI motherboard, AMD64 socket 939 processor
and 1Gb of DDR ram I can't use the SCSI card with. So I found this ASUS  
($309+)
board, It has PCIx slots, two of them. I also had to get another AMD64  
processor

for it with AM2 slot. I also had to get another Gb of DDR2 RAM.
I started assembling the thing and had trouble with the cdrom (ata)  
drive. It turns
out that this board is picky about what ata connector it is plugged  
into. It is not
the one that is usually right next to the power  connector (20 pin). it  
is one further
down the board and faces not up from the board but toward the front of  
the case.
It has 3 black SATA bus connectors and 6 orange SATA connectors. I  
thought
the black connectors where for internal drives, It turns out that they  
are for external
drives and I should have plugged in the SATA drive I am using to boot  
the system
into one of the orange connectors. The SCSI stuff works fine; 15k rpm  
with backplane
adapters from 80 pin to 68 pin, I have been through this obstacle  
coarse before so

I was already prepared.
Ok, Now it was time to discover the networking problem. First was that  
the onboard
lan is not supported directly by FreeBSD. All I got in the way of  
interfaces to configure
by sysinstall was fwe0 (firewire ethernet emulation). I went looking  
for inet cards that
would work in PCIe slots. The motherboard only has on standard PCI slot  
and I have

a video card installed in it.
I find the Intel cards that are made to work in PCIe lane one slots. I  
go to install them
and one of the lane one slots is blocked physically by a copper heat  
sink assembly
on a nearby component. I cannot use that lane one slot. I ended up  
putting the

two Intel cards in the PCIe lane 16 slots.
Now I get the system installed and go to the Apache site and get a  
v1.3.37
tarball and to the php site and get a v5.2.1 tarball, I go get Openssl  
and mod_ssl
and the php gd module and a binary distribution of MySQL (first one  
specifically
for FreeBSD that I had seen). So configure, build and install went fine  
accept for
a few dumb mistakes on my part with Apache, but I got it together. I  
got all the
stuff built and installed to be used with php , mcrypt, gd with  
freetype and all

that. It went well. Then I go to build and install php.
Now the next problem:
Php goes all the way through the configure, make and make install  
without
complaint. It is being built as a DSO for use with Apache, which means  
that
a file called libphp5.so is supposed to be created and placed in  
Apache's

libexec dir. NO FILE BY THAT NAME SHOWED UP ANY WHERE. I tried it
again, same thing, I went and got a tarball I had around of php 5.1.2  
and

tried that, Same thing; no llibphp5.so and am talking
find / -name libphp5.so -print;
nothing.
I have posted these problems. But the first time I mentioned on this  
list

that I had bypassed ports to install from source I was told that if I do
that do not come to this list with problem. I can really understand that
and I have had specific and impatient reason from bypassing ports.
But, common now, why would php configure, make and install without
errors and not produce a critical file for its operation.?  As a matter  
of
fact the last few posts about this (networking) have been ignored,  
Actually

 your response has been the first on this subject (networking problem).
Um... I take that back, I did get

Re: Re: Install with modified kernel?

2007-03-28 Thread jekillen

Hello again:
It is only fair to post this addenda to the message thread with
this subject:
From various suggestions from list responses, UUASC and I
seem to remember one from this list also, that the problem
could be consecutive addresses on the same subnet is
what is causing the problem.
I was asked by message from UUASC (Unix Users Association Of Southern 
California)
to try changing the address. So I change it to (just for the sake of 
difference)
172.1.1.1 with netmask of 225.225.225.0 and I WAS able to ping the 
inter face

successfully.
was
nfe0 192.168.1.16 (could ping)
nfe1 192.168.1.17 (could not ping)
nfe1 changed to 172.1.1.1 (now returns ping request)
so that does seem to make a difference. I do not know
why. But it looks like I will be able to go ahead and assign
it the public ip address and it should work.
Thanks
Jeff K

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Install with modified kernel?

2007-03-27 Thread jekillen

Hello:
Is it possible to install FreeBSD ( in this case v6.2 GENERIC RELEASE) 
with a modified kernel?
I am having some network problems with an installation on ASUS N2M32 WS 
pro (AMD64) mb.
I want to try installing without fire wire emulation support, which 
means I have to modify the
kernel to eliminate it. But if I install and then modify the Kernel, it 
will have made its mark.
Please forgive me it this seems like a stupid question. It probably is 
but I just want to be

certain.
Thanks in advance.
Jeff K

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kldunload question

2007-03-25 Thread jekillen

Hello;
In the continuing saga of ethernet interfaces
I.E. em0 fwe0 em1 on ASUS N2M32 pro motherboard
with two intel interface cards. One em0 works and the
other em1 does not (can not ping it though it shows
up and running)
I am trying to unload the fwe driver to see if it makes
a difference to em1 function.
after reading Absolute FreeBSD and man kldunload
I did
kldunload - n if_fwe.ko
and
kldunload -n fwe.ko
The result was that kldunload couid no find the named file
...no such file or directory
so I did
find / -name if_fwe.ko -print
and it came up where I found it from
kldstat -v  and manual search.

Anyone have an idea why kldunload would not
find this file when it does exist and I am doing this
as root?

Related question:
where is the file GENERIC.lint?
(Absolute FreeBSD mentions GENERIC.lint
in chapter about kernel modifications and
rebuilding)


Thank you in advance
Jeff K

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order of enet interface drivers

2007-03-24 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have two identical intel interface cards installed
in a ASUS N2M32 pro motherboard. The os version
is 6.2 GENERIC running on AMD64, socket AM2.
The motherboard has dual interfaces that use Marvell
drivers. I cannot use these with this version of FreeBSD
as yet. So I got two Intel interface cards that work in
PCIe slots. Because of the hardware component situation
on this motherboard  I cannot use the interfaces in PCIe lane
one slots as on of these slots is blocked, physically, and the
card will not fit. So I am using the two PCIe lane 16 slots.
I modified rc.conf (see PS at bottom) to bring up the interfaces at 
boot.

They both come up and running with network addressess
assigned, as em0 an em1.
The problem:
I can ping em0 from local host and connect to ftp and ssh
from the inside network, all is well
I cannot ping em1.
ifconfig shows it up and running, with no carrier, I.E. no
network cable attached but I should be able to ping it
from local host, yes? no? Yes.
Here is the obvious question
the order of interfaces listed by ifconfig is
em0
fwe0
em1
the question is:
Is it possible that fwe is blocking em1?
I have fwe0 down and took it out of
rc.conf so it does not come up on boot
but still shows up in this order with ifconfig.
If this is possible, how do I tell the system to
load fwe0 after em1 or not at all  to see if I can ping it successfully?
copied from ifconfig output:
em0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU
inet 192.168.1.16 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:15:17:19:2c:89
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
fwe0: flags=108802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
ether 02:11:d8:bf:40:d4
ch 1 dma -1
em1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU
inet 192.168.1.17 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:15:17:19:2a:b7
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier
ping results:
am2# ping -c 1 em1
ping: cannot resolve em1: Host name lookup failure
am2# ping -c 1 192.168.1.17
PING 192.168.1.17 (192.168.1.17): 56 data bytes

--- 192.168.1.17 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
am2#
Any clues?
Jeff K (being necessarily philosophical at this point)
PS I say I edited rc.conf to make network changes
because I got the syntax correct for doing this. It
does work, not with commands, just variable/value assignments
JK

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Re: order of enet interface drivers

2007-03-24 Thread jekillen


On Mar 24, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Ray wrote:


On Saturday 24 March 2007 8:38 pm, jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have two identical intel interface cards installed
in a ASUS N2M32 pro motherboard. The os version
is 6.2 GENERIC running on AMD64, socket AM2.
The motherboard has dual interfaces that use Marvell
drivers. I cannot use these with this version of FreeBSD


I'm working on a similar board. have you looked at:
http://www.se.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~shigeaki/software/freebsd-nfe.html
I'm having success with this approach.
Ray

Thank you for the info. If you like to read, you can hack through my 
sob story:


I have gotten this reference in a query on this issue when I first 
assembled the board
and did not get the two interfaces to show up. I did retrieve the code 
from this link
but I decided against it for the time being. I have not worked with the 
kernel yet and
am trying to get this server up and running. It has been a real circus 
to date.


First I thought PCIe slots would use my 64 bit SCSI card, no way. I had 
to buy the
ASUS board because it was he only AMD64 board I could find with PCIx 
slots.

And because the ASUS board did not have a AMD 939 socket, I had to buy
another processor for AM2 socket and I had to then buy DDR2 memory 
because
the ASUS board required it. So I now have one Gigabyte motherboard and 
AMD64 939
processor and a Gb of DDR memory I cannot use. I then discovered the 
problem with

the onboard inet interfaces.

Now I am having serious trouble getting Apache 1.3.37 and php 5 to work 
together,
They won't because for some reason libphp5.so is not being produced 
when php is

configured, built and installed. That is another issue.

All I really would like to know at this point is how to get fwe0 to 
load in a different

order so I can eliminate that as a problem or solve it.

I am working on a very large php project and if I cannot get php to 
work with Apache

on this machine it is all in vain.

Yes I know about ports, and yes I have been greeted with disdain on 
this list because
I have been bypassing ports to install this stuff from source. I have 
done it successfully

on two other FreeBSD Machines with FBSD 6.0 Apache 1.3.34 and php 5.1.2.
On this machine I have FBSD 6.2, Apache 1.3.37 and have tried php5.2.1 
and 5.1.2
and have had the same problem. I am suspecting either the apxs script 
with Apache or
something in the FBSD install with make or autoconf. But I am not a 
computer scientist.


So now that I have bent your ear all the way around your head.
How do I tell FreeBSD to load interface drivers in a different order or 
is it really an issue?

Thanks
Jeff K

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Re: sendmail name resolution

2007-03-19 Thread jekillen


On Mar 19, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Derek Ragona wrote:


Sendmail uses the system calls to resolve names.  You need to check:
/etc/nsswitch.conf

In that file check the hosts line, this gives the order for hostname 
resolution, typically it is files then dns.


Then you should check your /etc/hosts file to be sure that localhost 
is there and correct.


Also check /etc/resolve.conf that you have the correct nameservers for 
dns lookups.


-Derek



Thanks, I look into all your suggestions. I think I have gone through 
this before but
I do not install OS's often enough to remember these details. I also 
have so many
books on Unix and related subjects, networking, dns, etc etc that I 
forget where to

find the answer.
Jeff K

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sendmail name resolution

2007-03-18 Thread jekillen

Hello:
Where does sendmail look to find out who it is?
Resolve.conf?
It keeps throwing up messages that it cannot
resolve the name localhost, or that is the
way I am interpreting the messages.
FreeBSD v6.2 generic
Thanks in advance;
Jeff K

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Re: getting mail to work

2007-03-13 Thread jekillen


On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:14 PM, RW wrote:


On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:36:41 -0800
jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, RW wrote:


The important thing is really your reverse DNS, if you have control
of it and looks like a real server name,  e.g. mail.example.com,
you can stay off the dynamic lists. It doesn't help to have a
static address if your reverse dns looks like 12-43-545-example.net



Thank you for your reply;
One of my machines (the one I use all the time and use to send and
receive
e-mai)  does have an ISP assigned name. But the others are FQDN's that
I have registered. One even has .net as the top level domain and that
is one I am planning on using for the mail server.



Just as long as you understand the distinction between forward and
reverse DNS. Based on the whois record for for your IP address, at the
moment you appear to have the following reverse DNS for the address
range 75.7.236.224 - 75.7.236.231:

$ for i in `jot  8 224` ; do dig +short -x 75.7.236.$i  ; done
adsl-75-7-236-224.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-225.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-226.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-227.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-228.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-229.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-231.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.


OK, It appears that it is the ISPs name servers who
are responding. When I call up my sights I get to the
machines they are on according to my present
DNS setup.
try www.brushandbard.com
Jeff K

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Re: getting mail to work

2007-03-12 Thread jekillen


On Mar 12, 2007, at 9:05 AM, RW wrote:


On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:27:52 -0800
jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you will allow me to break in on this exchange;
Does this advise apply if you have static ip service


The important thing is really your reverse DNS, if you have control of
it and looks like a real server name,  e.g. mail.example.com, you can
stay off the dynamic lists. It doesn't help to have a static address if
your reverse dns looks like 12-43-545-example.net



Thank you for your reply;
One of my machines (the one I use all the time and use to send and 
receive

e-mai)  does have an ISP assigned name. But the others are FQDN's that
I have registered. One even has .net as the top level domain and that is
one I am planning on using for the mail server.
Thanks again
Jeff K

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Re: getting mail to work

2007-03-12 Thread jekillen


On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:

of SPF (Sender Policy Framewokr) would immediately identify it as a 
spoof, and will be blocked.


To learn more about this system, see

http://www.openspf.org/


if the same machine is for sending and receiving mail simply putting

IN TXT v=spf1 mx -all

is OK and enough


Thanks for the info,
I think I can use all the knowledgeable help
I can get with this. I did set up my DNS servers
successfully. But I have had more trouble trying
to get Apache configured correctly. Mail servers
look like a whole 'nother world to me but I still
have a little hair left to tear.
Jeffk

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Re: getting mail to work

2007-03-12 Thread jekillen


On Mar 11, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:


On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:27 PM, jekillen wrote:


If you will allow me to break in on this exchange;
Does this advise [don't run your own direct to MX mail server] apply 
if you have static ip service and are running web servers from these 
addresses, with the ISP's blessing? (meaning you also have at least 
two name servers running for the registered sites)


Wow, thanks,
most or what you mention in the way of pluses and negatives
I am either aware of or have had some experience with, E.G.
I had someone attacking a machine I have one of my sites on
and the secondary DNS server. The site has .net as the top
level domain and I supposed that the attack was because some
one assumed I was using it to run a mail server. Anyhow I was
getting requests for - - so often that it was causing Apache
to run out of memory and kill processes. I caught it in process
and shut down and rebooted the machine. But to tell you the
truth, I am not sure if that was causing Apache to run out of
memory, it is just guilt by association. Since all this machine
really does is serve as my secondary DNS server I shut
down Apache, not really needing to have the site up at this
time.
I am itching to get mail service running as it will perform some
important functions for my sites. But I have some serious
learning to do. Every bit of knowledgeable input helps and
this is a serious tutorial.
Thanks again.
Jeff K.




First let's separate questions.  One is dealing with your own incoming 
mail.  The other is with sending mail out direct to MX.  These two can 
(and often should) be separated.


For the question of hosting your own MX there are positives and 
negatives.  Here is a list off of the top of my head.  It is far from 
complete.


Positive:

 (1) You get to fully control your rejection/acceptance policy from the
 beginning.

 (2) You get the learn about running such a system.

 (3) You dramatically reduce your lock-in with an ISP (who can change 
their

 email policy or practice at any time.

 (4) You don't have to pay for some outside service (I use 
fastmail.fm) for
 hosting your incoming mail if you want something better than the 
free

 email service your ISP provides.

Negatives:

 (a) You have to maintain what is really a surprisingly complex system
 for such a simple protocol.

 (b) You have to defend your system against attacks it otherwise 
wouldn't

 receive, including DoS attacks.

 (c) Damage of being overwhelmed (either by deliberate attack or spam 
blowback)

 may be harder to contain.

 (d) Your system needs to fail appropriately.  For example, if you use
 something like LDAP to maintain username or email address 
information, you
 need to make sure that if your LDAP service fails your mail 
server fails
 in an appropriate way (say a complete shutdown) or issuing 
temporary (4xx)
 rejections instead of in an inappropriately issuing 5xx for mail 
that

 would be accepted normally.

If (1) (or (2)) is really important to you, then go ahead.  But 
probably the best way to see whether (1) really matters is to ask 
yourself what things you would like to do that you couldn't do unless 
you ran your own MX.  For example, if you have strong feelings about 
whether DNSbls should be used prior to content filtering or as part of 
it.  Or whether you want spam and virus rejections to occur at SMTP 
time or later.  Whether you want SPF failures to generate immediate 
rejections.  Whether you want to make use of sophisticated IMAP 
features that ISPs can't provide.  If you don't have strong feelings 
about these sorts of questions, then I doubt that (1) applies to you.


Now there is the second question about doing direct to MX for mail 
sending instead of going through your ISP or some third party service.


Positives

 (i) You control queing and retry rates.

 (ii) For bulk mailing (mailing lists) there is an advantage of how 
out-going

  STMP session are organized.

 (iii) You are not as dependent on your ISP or a third party for 
getting your

   mail out, if they are slow or unreliable with mail

 (iv) If your ISP's mail server provide crappy bounce information and 
you

  need better information.

 (v) If your ISP adds junk to your mail or sends out mail in 
unfriendly so as

 to get itself on blacklists or leads to other forms of needless
 rejections.

 (vi) You get to learn about running such systems

Negatives:

  (A) Even with a static IP address, your assigned address may look 
dynamic
  to other servers who may then reject mail coming directly from 
you.


  (B) Your ISP blocks/disallows this sort of thing (not a problem in 
your case)


  (C) The reverse DNS records for your IP need to correspond 
reasonably well
  to your domain name, otherwise lots of servers will reject mail 
from you.


  (D) You need to follow the RFCs and conventions strictly so that you 
don't

  get yourself

Re: getting mail to work

2007-03-11 Thread jekillen


On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:


[mailed and posted]

On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Ed Zwart wrote:


I own my_domain.com.  I've paid a hoster for the last couple years,
but that's ending in a week or so.  Meanwhile, I've used dyndns to
point foo.homedns.org to my IP.


If you will allow me to break in on this exchange;
Does this advise apply if you have static ip service and are running
web servers from these addresses, with the ISP's blessing?
(meaning you also have at least two name servers running for the 
registered sites)
This is important info for me, as I have that and am considering doing 
just that,
run my own mail servers. I expect to have 5 machines doing various 
jobs, DNS
web server(four registered web sites), mail server. I already have 
three of the four sites

up and available from static ip addresses over ADSL.
Thanks so much
Jeff K.


I am going to add my voice to those suggesting that you use your ISP's 
mail server for outgoing mail.


There are a number of reasons.  First of all, if you are on a dynamic 
IP, it is very likely that your ISP blocks outgoing STMP traffic that 
doesn't go via their own mail server.  That is, they won't allow 
direct to MX mailing from dynamic addresses.


Another reason is that it just isn't a good idea to run your own 
direct to MX mail system, unless you have some real expertise in how 
mail transport works.  Professionally, I set up mail servers for small 
and medium sized businesses, and in more and more cases, I actually 
suggest that they use outside mail servers for their out going mail.  
(Generally, I think that ISPs tend to do really poor jobs with email 
and that it is best to avoid being locked into your ISP for much, so I 
recommend services like fastmail.fm.)


Let me also add, that while I do set up and manage mail servers for 
others, I don't do direct to MX from home myself.  (Well, I do for a 
mailing list server I run, but not for my normal everyday mailing.)  
So even with the expertise needed, I don't really recommend running 
your own MX (incoming) or own Direct to MX (outgoing) servers unless 
you have a specific need to fill.


Anyway

With postfix you just need to specify

 relayhost=YOUR-ISPS-OUTGOING-SMTP-SERVER-HERE

in

 /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf

and then run

 # postfix reload

Then just send a test, eg

$  mail -s test [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null

to see what happens.

If your ISP wants authentication for handling your outgoing mail, look 
at


 http://macosx.com/tech-support/smtp-relay-host-authentication/938.html

which describes how to configure postfix for that on Mac OS X.  For 
FreeBSD just replace


  /private/etc/postfix/

in all of the paths mentioned with

  /usr/local/etc/postfix/


-j
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Re: hardware question

2007-03-02 Thread jekillen


On Mar 1, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


jekillen wrote:

On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:

jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would 
have

it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?
By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K


Maybe. Read this document: 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540.

-Garrett

Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message 
and then
decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I 
came up
with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look 
back at the
specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards 
and there
it was, pretty plain. There is still a problem. One of the cards is 
initializing and
the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the 
punch line
is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in 
ifconfig.
I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it 
appears
that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is 
listed as supported
by the em driver, but Intel® 82572EI or Intel® 82572GI Gigabit 
Controller is not

listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent.
thanks for the response.
Jeff K


There's always -current or an RMA. Weird though... I didn't think that 
the slot size was large enough though for a PCIx card slot. 
Interesting...


There  is more, I had one card in the secondary x16 slot and one card 
in the usable x1 slot. I noticed that in the above situation, the fwe 
inteface

was still configured.
I took the card from the secondary x16 slot and put it in the primary 
x16 slot, Booted up and the em0 interface came up. I shut down the fwe 
interface
and was able to ping the em0 interface. I moved the card from the 
usable x1 slot and moved it to the secondary x16 slot. Now both cards 
show up
as up and running but I cannot ping the em1 interface. I went into 
rc.conf and took out the fwe configuration line. It still shows up in 
ifconfig listed
between em0 and em1. I am suspecting that this interface is somehow 
interfering with the em1 interface. So progress is happening but I am 
weary
of the sleuthing I have to do to get things working. At least I do have 
one enet connection to the machine, now.

Jeff K

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Re: defrag

2007-03-01 Thread jekillen


On Mar 1, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Ivan Voras wrote:


Lowell Gilbert wrote:


If you know the standard computer science terminology, it can be
described quite tersely.  UFS fragmentation is a way of avoiding
internal fragmentation from wasting too much space.  MS-DOS-FS
fragmentation is an example of external fragmentation in the storage
space.  They don't really have anything to do with each other.


It looks like I actually AM arguing about semantics here:

UFS fragmentation refers to dividing blocks (e.g. 16KB in size) into
block fragments (e.g. 2KB in size) that can be allocated separately in
special circumstances (which all boil down to: at the end of files).
This is done to lessen the effect of internal fragmentation.

	Fragmentation without UFS prefix, as mostly used today (and which 
I

believe it's how the original poster understands it) refers to dividing
files into non-continuous regions, i.e. external fragmentation.

Correct so far?

% fragmentation message from fsck cannot refer to internal
fragmentation as the numbers don't add up, so it almost certainly 
refers

to external fragmentation.


This discussion has been about UFS vs MS file system. But I have been
using Macs and have run file system utilities, Norton, and watched it 
defrag
a Mac disc. I am just curious as to how the HFS and HFS+ file systems 
fit
into this picture. Particularly since OSX is essentially a Unix 'like' 
system

but still uses HFS+
Just for some perspective and idle curiosity.
Thanks
Jeff K

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hardware question

2007-03-01 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have
it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?

By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K 


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Re: hardware question

2007-03-01 Thread jekillen


On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:18 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


Garrett Cooper wrote:

jekillen wrote:

Hello;
I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard.
It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces.
I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of
v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and
instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was
to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have
it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat
dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not
fit in the slot for the obstruction.
So, my question is simple:
Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot
in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work?

By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using
this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address
assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also.
I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh
and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network.
Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet
Jeff K
Maybe. Read this document: 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540.

-Garrett


Actually after looking at the size and slots of PCI-Express x16 vs 
standard PCIe, _no_, you can't. In 
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3767 there's a picture 
comparing PCIe x16 to PCI, PCIe x8, and PCI-X, and there's no way that 
it will fit... Besides the PCI-x has 1 lane while PCI-x16 has 16. 
That's what I get for not having a up to date machine that I could 
judge this from (still stuck in the PCI dark ages).


-Garrett



Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message and 
then
decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I came 
up
with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look back 
at the
specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards 
and there

it was, pretty plain.
Compatible with x1, x4, x8, and x16 full-height and low-profile PCI 
Express slots

There is still a problem. One of the cards is initializing and
the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the punch 
line
is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in 
ifconfig.
I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it 
appears
that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is 
listed as supported
by the em driver, but Intel® 82572EI or Intel® 82572GI Gigabit 
Controller is not

listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent.
thanks for the response. I guess I will try the driver source route 
from another
message from this list, for the Marvell interfaces. I will have to burn 
it to a cd

and install from that.
Jeff K


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Enet driver for Marvell

2007-02-20 Thread jekillen

Hello;
A while ago, a matter of a few months I inquired of this list regarding
installation of FreeBSD v6.0 on ASUS M2N32 WS Pro motherboard.
I was not able to set up dual ethenet inter faces as the only option
presented by sysinstall when configuring enet interface was
fw30 as firewire ethernet emulation. I was advise to upgrade to v6.2
which I have just done. I still do not have more than the fwe interface
presented.
The response to the original message, I can not find, but I was told
that the motherboard was probably one with new Marvell interfaces.
Now, I have looked at the features listed on the motherboard package
and there it is;
2x Marvell 88E1116 PHY
Is there a driver that has to be activated by kernel config setting or
what is the status of support for this hardware in FreeBSD?
I just looked through the supported hardware/ethernet devices for
the i386 architecture and did not find any reference to Marvell.
I purchase a cd set of v6.2 cds from FreeBSD Mall (not inplying
any criticism, just that it represents a method of contribution to
this project).
This is frustrating because this machine is supposed to be a production
web server. Hardware including dual 15K SCSI drives and adapter  has run
in the neighborhood of $1000 and it still is not useful for it' 
intended purpose

Any info or advice appreciated
Thanks in advance;
Jeff K

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Re: Re FreeBSD mall

2007-02-12 Thread jekillen


On Feb 11, 2007, at 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, jekillen wrote:


Hello all;
I have purchased a set of 6.2 cds from FreeBSD Mall
and have not received answers to querys re when it
will be delivered.
Does anyone here have pull there? Buying it is a
way of donating to this community right?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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Jeff,

I have a subscription with them and, except for one very minor snafu, 
they have been fine. The CD sets are not put out immediately 
certainly, but they have never failed to send one to me as scheduled. 
Of course, in the world of business everything can change overnight, 
but I'm not worried that my set isn't going to show up.


Thanks, odd this is the second copy of your message I have received. 
This afternoon I came home from work and found a notice to pick up a 
parcel
from the post office. I am never around when they or UPS tries to 
deliver stuff. So I will pick it up and I am guessing it is the cd set, 
I am not execting

anything else from the post office like that.
Jeff K

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Re FreeBSD mall

2007-02-11 Thread jekillen

Hello all;
I have purchased a set of 6.2 cds from FreeBSD Mall
and have not received answers to querys re when it
will be delivered.
Does anyone here have pull there? Buying it is a
way of donating to this community right?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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Q: re ASUS motherboard with dual inet interfaces

2007-01-30 Thread jekillen

Hello,
I have a new machine with an ASUS motherboard that
has, or is supposed to have dual ethernet interfaces.
And in fact it has two rj-45 ports for connecters.
But when I use sysinstall to configure the interfaces
all I get is fwe0 fire wire ethernet emulation.
And when I use sysinstall it only lists one device.
ifconfig only lists this device.
What is the explanation for this and how would I
get it to configure and use the second port?
Using FreeBSD v6.0. Need separate local and public
connections to this machine.
Thanks in advance
JK

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Re: PCIe Core2 Duo Motherboard?

2007-01-21 Thread jekillen


On Jan 21, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Andrew Fremantle wrote:


Hello,

I'm looking at building a few new general-purpose servers in the near 
future. I'd like to use Intel Core 2 Duo processors in these machines. 
I'm currently evaluating a machine with a looks-good-on-paper 
motherboard, the Intel DG965OT. However, I have come across two major 
problems with this board.


First, the board locks up several seconds after finishing it's kernel 
initialization. Sysinstall runs and displays the region/country list, 
then freezes solid a few seconds later. This does not happen if I 
select to boot without ACPI support.


Second, this board has 1 PATA and 6 SATA connectors. FreeBSD detects a 
generic PCI ATA controller, and then fails to detect the optical drive 
attached to it. This problem is not unique to FreeBSD. I understand 
the Linux folks have similar troubles with the Marvell controller. The 
kernel appears to detect four of the six SATA headers on this board.


So my questions are

1) Does anyone know how to make this board work properly with FreeBSD?

2) Can anyone suggest a well supported board with gigabit lan, onboard 
video, and PCIe expansion, that accepts Core2 Duo CPUs?


Also, the amd64 documentation states support for Athlon64s, Opterons, 
certain Xeons, and EMT64 capable Pentium 4s, Pentium Ds, and Celerons. 
Will it not run on Core 2s or is this a shortcoming in the 
documentation? I though the Core 2s were 64-bit capable.


- Andrew


If you are willing to try AMD64 I have built one with
ASUS M2N32 WS pro. It has two PCI-e slots and
two PCI x slots. Uses new AM2 socket and DDR2
memory, is not modestly priced at over $300 for
the board alone. But there is also a model
M2N32 SLI version that does not come with the
PCI x slots and is somewhat less expensive.
You might consider, I believe you can get
AMD 64 dual core processors to use with it.
But perhaps since you already spent the money
on Intel, you are not willing to go this route.
Oh, yes, the boards have dual gigabit built in
NICs that appear to be well supported chip sets.
It also has 6 internal SATA busses and 3 external
SATA buses.
I got the M2N32 WS Pro because I wanted to use
two 15 k rpm SCSI drives along with an SATA
boot drive. The SCSI adapter I got, LSIlogic,
would only fit in PCIx slots.
I have installed FreeBSD v6.0 and have had no
problem with sysinstall what so ever. And it boots
just fine, so far.
Hope this helps
JK

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[OT]two networks, one nic

2006-11-13 Thread jekillen

Hello FreeBSD users,
I have been operating under the assumption that
the same network interface card cannot handle two
different networks. But then I seem to have seen
an example in one of the OReill¥ books on networking
that had one interface with one assigned inet address
and also aliased with another address that could only
be on another network. If I understood that right, it
seems to imply that I can use one Network interface
card for at least two different networks, like so;
192.168.1.somthing and
alias 172.0.0.something
or;
192.168.1.something
alias 192.168.2.something
If this is possible is it accomplished via a special routing?
My concern is that I have a laptop with one network
interface, built in,  but would like to access it both at
a public static address and a private network address.
Is this possible?

Thanks in advance for time and attention;
Jeff K

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altering text files.

2006-10-26 Thread jekillen

Hello fellow FreeBSD users;

I have a technical question about text files:

Is there a way to edit a text file via a script
by searching and replacing small portions
of a text file, instead of having to rewrite
the whole file for what may be negligible
alterations? I'm assuming not, but I'm not
really sure.

My interest is with any scripting or even
compiled language, but specifically the
use of php to edit files on a web server.

I have created an application for a web
client that allows the client to contact their
site and make changes to a file that lists
event date, title, location, subject. And
creates a separate file for details related
to each event listing. I'm concerned about
allowing the client to edit the listings and
detail files in the event that a mistake is
made in the data entered from a event
posting form. (I don't want to have to
manually edit the files for them in this event)

So, the idea of correcting the spelling of
a word like is when it was spelled  it seems
over kill  (to over write a whole file just to change
one character).

Thanks in advance;
Jeff k

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next episode, continuing saga

2006-09-21 Thread jekillen

Hello again;
With FreeBSD and in general, If the monitor is turned off
is it safe to disconnect it from the machine while the machine
is running?
AMD64 socket 754 with separate PCI video card on ECS
motherboard; no Xwindows installed. if it makes a difference.

want to run the machine headless without shutting it down to
switch the monitor to another machine.

Thanks to the gracious responses on previous queries
I don't have to buy another KVM switch.
Jeff K

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mail to root

2006-09-19 Thread jekillen

Hello again;
I have a question about how mail from the system is generated for root.
This question was prompted when I edited the Postfix aliases file and
ran newaliases, then did postfix reload, assuming the mail system was
running. I was informed that Postfix was not running. So the question,
how does mail generated by the system get delivered to the root account?
Here is my motive:
I have a server that I want to run headless. I want to be able to 
retrieve

mail to root from another machine via ssh login (on the same private net
work number/netmask 255.255.255.0). I cannot login to the system as
root over ssh. I don't know if I can read root mail with su (as wheel 
group

member). I tried this but maybe I'm not using the appropriate parameter.
Or maybe there isn't any. I don't know where to look for an answer to 
this

question, other than this knowledgeable group.Oh, man mail maybe?
Thanks in advance
Jeff K

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csh as default root Shell

2006-09-18 Thread jekillen

Hello;
Since I have been advised by way of correspondence with  UUASC (Unix 
Users of Association of Southern California)
that changing the root shell in FreeBSD is not advised and I have two 
machines up and running and a third on the
way, I have purchased a text from (I don't know if it is appropriate 
for this list to mention the publisher by name but

it is closely connected to the publisher of Absolute BSD).
Has anyone any comments regarding this text based on familiarity (Using 
Csh and Tcsh). I noticed the publication
date is 1995. It's a manual of sorts, I'll read it before stumbling 
around on lists for answers to awk ward questions.


Thanks in advance.
Jeff K.

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Help re nvnet driver

2006-08-31 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have a machine with two SLI slots and two regular pci slots.
The motherboard is Gigabyte with nVidia network interface
built in. I have one regular pci slot taken with a video card
and one with a D-Link nic. I need another nic and as it stands
either the video card goes or I get  a functional nvnet driver.
The system has refused to deal with the nvnet interface and
the compilation of the driver for it was initially unsuccessful.
I posted a note to this list about it at the time and was told
after some delay that the nvnet driver was 'broken'. My plan
is to use one of the extended pci slots for a SCSI adapter
which leaves the other extended slot unused(and unusable
if I understand correctly). The machine has no built in video.
Can anyone tell me if there is a functioning nvnet driver avail-
able presently and if it will run on v6.0.

My present use of the machine is as a development machine
and I need to configure Apache for mock virtual sites with
both an internal network connection and a mock external
connection. Eventually, I will have the machine actually connected
to a public address so for that I need the extra net work interface
card also.

I think I can get by with six internal addresses alias to the same card
and split them up as far as Apache is concerned but having the use of
the built in network interface will be a great help.

Other wise every thing is satisfactory with FreeBSD on this machine.
I'm building a third machine along the same lines (but it has more
standard pci slots and only one extended slot which will also be for
a SCSI adapter card). I'm shoe horning my budget for the project so
that isn't a viable alternative for me at this time.

Thanks in advance.
Jeff K.

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Re: mail to root

2006-08-28 Thread jekillen


On Aug 28, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:


jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Unfortunately, there is not to my knowledge a comprehensive
text that will offer an analysis of every possible mail message to
root and what it means.


Well, no, any more than there is a comprehensive text that will list
every single noise your car might make and what it means.


rc.conf to set the aliases and rebooted the machine. The new aliases
didn't
show up with ifconfig so I added them with ifconfig ( I must have made
a mistake
in the rc.conf lines).


Right.  Sounds like you put inappropriate lines in rc.conf, which is
only supposed to contain variable settings, not actual commands.

Since you didn't show the lines you'd added, we can't suggest the
right way to do it, but look at the if settings in rc.conf(5) and the
Handbook description of configuring networking.

Good luck.
I did add the ifconfig commands to rc.conf, but the problem started 
before
I did that, I did find a line in rc.conf setting ifconfig to something 
already
having to do with configuration of an interface. I'll have to go back 
and

get the actual line, and remove the others as well. I hope no one has
cracked the machine, I get failed login attempts over ftp all the time. 
I have

ftp blocked on the public addresses.
Thanks for the info,:
JK

--
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/



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mail to root

2006-08-26 Thread jekillen

Hello:
I have been getting this message in the mail box for root for the last 
several days.

Can anyone tell me what this means.

From operator@(host name) Sun Aug 27 08:11:00 2006
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:11:00 -0700 (PDT)  -- the date and time is 
wrong, it is Sat the 26th. I've know his for a week or two but haven't 
changed it.

From: operator@(host name) (Cron Daemon)
To: operator@(host name)
Subject: Cron operator@(host) /usr/libexec/save-entropy
X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh
X-Cron-Env: PATH=/etc:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
X-Cron-Env: HOME=/
X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=operator
X-Cron-Env: USER=operator

ifconfig: not found
ifconfig: not found

I have eliminated the actual host name from the text.
Unfortunately, there is not to my knowledge a comprehensive
text that will offer an analysis of every possible mail message to
root and what it means. I am learning.
 ifconfig is there, I used it to alias an interface as well as to 
display the

current setup. The machine has been up as a web and dns server for 95
days and this message has just started showing up. I added the lines to
rc.conf to set the aliases and rebooted the machine. The new aliases 
didn't
show up with ifconfig so I added them with ifconfig ( I must have made 
a mistake
in the rc.conf lines). The shell complained that using  ifconfig rl0 
inet (address) netmask (netmask)
was a bad address. I removed 'inet' from the instruction and it was 
accepted. I assume that I have
to remove that also from the rc.conf line. About this time  the mail 
message came up again.

Thanks in advance.
JK

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Writing drivers that will work with FreeBSD

2006-08-10 Thread jekillen

Hello;
Is there a one stop location where I can get info on writing
device drivers that will work with FreeBSD (v6+)? There is
a book out called Linux Device Drivers (perhaps I shouldn't
mention the publisher). I would be mostly a beginner
and presume that some assembler knowledge would be needed.
Is there an 'API' type of approach to this?
I'm trying to estimate the feasibility of writing a driver for a
MIDI interface (I don't know which yet, it would depend on
how much data a particular manufacture makes available
about a particular device).
Thanks in advance
JK

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default umask for Apache

2006-07-09 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I've not had to do this on a Unix system before. But now I have Apache 
running as nobody and
have php scripts creating and writing to directories. The files it 
creates have the default mask
rw-r-r and I want to change it to rw-rw-- so I can remove the files and 
dirs with group write permissions

via ftp.
I'm using default csh.
I don't remember where to find this info in Complete FreeBSD, or other 
sources.

so:
question
How do you change the default mask for a user like Apache on a Unix 
system?

/question
(I assume there is a separate default for both files and directories.)
Other wise I have to manually cd into each directory, remove the files 
as root,
cd back, remove the dir, cd to the next, etc. It could add up to 
hundreds of

directories with multiple hundreds of files to remove.
Maybe I could practice shell scripting with this, or modify the php 
code to unlink
the files and remove the dirs. But i may need to save some for future 
reference.


thanks in advance;
JK

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ftp proxy.

2006-06-29 Thread jekillen

Hello,
I have successfully installed FreeBSD 6.0 commercial boxed cds in 2 
AMD64 machines. All ports and packages selected and all went well.
but some other software that is not installed by default, like Apache, 
I couldn't get ports to install because the this particular machine
was on an inside network. I need to know how to get ftp to use an ftp 
proxy (on another machine that has a direct connection).
Since the machine in question is configured to be a server, I did'nt 
install the Xwindows softwares. So I need to know what to do with
the command line (default csh for root). The other machine does have 
Xwindows installed so I can use the configuration apps to set it.
I'm being a little lazy and not looking at Absolute FreeBSD nor the 
manual that can be obtained from the same source as the CD set.
If a fast and simple suggestion isn't fast and simple tell me to go 
read the books (again). My bio-chemical buffer is getting a little 
cranky..

and clumsy.
Thanks in advance
JK

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dual boot; Linux, FreeBSD

2006-06-09 Thread jekillen

Hello;
If I want to set up a dual boot of either Linux or FreeBSD, what is the 
best way to go about it?
Use Lilo, grub, or does FreeBSD have a boot loader that it likes better 
and Linux won't object to?
i'm planning on using Debian on a separate bootable hard drive. I have 
to get more info on what
version of Debian I will use. FreeBSD is version 6.0 release. It works 
great, has little quirks here
and there but are negligible, Xwindow screen saver daemon won't run, 
but that's ok because
mostly I shut the monitor off when not using the system. Gnome throws 
up a dialog every
time it starts stating that a panel is already running. Once it kept 
presenting the same dialog
several times before it was satisfied that I got the message. Monitor 
works great without any
intervention from me. I sure is nice to have a computer system that 
just runs and runs and

I don't have to do finger nail biting trying to stay ahead of crashes.
Thanks in advance:
JK

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Midi and Linux compatibility

2006-06-08 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I'm interested in setting up midi and sound recording gear on a Linux 
system. There is a program I'm interested in
getting installed and using called Rosegarden. I also have to contend 
with the availability of Linux compatible
midi interfaces (which is a blurred subject as far as my research into 
availability is concerned) My question to
the FreeBSD mailing list is: if I use FreeBSD with its Linux 
compatibility, how do I deal with drivers (for midi inter
faces, for instance) and installation. Is there an area of ports for 
Linux software, specifically Rosegarden or
something that will do audio recording, midi sequencing, audio/midi 
sync, and has a good score editor that

will print sheet music?
I would be using it on AMD 64 slot 939 FreeBSD v 6.0 Release.
(commercial boxed set of cd's from FreeBSD Mall).
I'm interested in this because my other option is to set up a
machine with Debian and some Debian midi specific software.
But I can't afford to build or buy another machine at present.
I want to avoid dual boot if I can.
One extra question re nvnet driver. I had trouble installing and using 
it
and a response to a query to this list indicated that the port was 
broken.

Can anyone tell me if it has been fixed?
Thanks in advance:
JK

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