Hi Tom,
Yes, I know that about the adrift. But there are some guys on the
rec.arts.int-fiction forum that write there from time to time, even there
was an interest for the accessibility on boath the english and the italian
groups that I follow. So you have the great chance for the answer
no I don't mind, in fact I never thought about that.
At 05:17 p.m. 28/02/2011, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Oh, I can't resist saying this. Altogether munchkins let's sing our song.
Ding dong the group is dead. The group is dead. The group is dead.
Ding dong the PKB group is dead.
Hahaha. Hope you
Well you can but its pointless its dead.
So is the folder you can look on groupsim for the pkb chat if you
just want to be part of a group which has nothing on it.
It does not exist anymore.
in fact all the material is basically non usefull to most, i have the
entire folder as does a lot of
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Hi list
I've done a recording where I talk about how I feel about the future of
games for the vi.
This recording is very straightforward.
There's no strong language, but I use the bible often in this recording.
I'd like to hear what you think.
Here is the link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wdww6p
On the drink issue, it reminds me of a rather funny quote from one of the
father Brown detective stories by gk chesterton.
Father brown (a catholic priest), is at a hotel and is offered a glass of
lemonade with his dinner instead of wine because the hotel staff assume he
believes wine to be
Hi Nicol.
What you're basically saying here, to me, is that people should only
consider Jehova witnesses when making games. You and only you.
Calling others without love for goodness because they create games
with violence and supernatural aspects to them is very, very
judgmental. Just
Wow dude. Really well written and echos what I would say, but way more
eloquently.
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Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:43 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re:
Well games are for entertainment only. If someone takes it for more
than that, Please seek help for your head.
I do be leave in God, but do not and never will be leave in
programmed religion!
And you really don't want me going past that thought.
The games are there to play and no one will twist
I try. lol. Did you like my question at the end?
At 04:47 AM 28/02/2011, you wrote:
Wow dude. Really well written and echos what I would say, but way more
eloquently.
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Hi
I'm catholic, and I have baptist and luthern friends. There's nothing
wrong with harry potter, doom, those games. I know that they are fiction.
Josh
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Hi
Actually Catholics do not do the same thing with the rosary. You seem to
have been misinformed somehow. The If you read the following websites
you will be able to obtain more accurate information.
http://www.catholic.com/library/Rosary.asp
Good... but could you just post to the thread already in existence
next time instead of creating another one? Thanks.
At 06:35 AM 28/02/2011, you wrote:
Hi
I'm catholic, and I have baptist and luthern friends. There's
nothing wrong with harry potter, doom, those games. I know that they
are
Hi josh.
appologies, I was just trying to think of a quick example of a Christian
prayer which used a symbolic aide as well as words, but was probably a bit
hasty.
all the best,
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Clement, it was never my intention to put down any dev.
And it was never my intention to say that developers should only make games
for Jehovah's witnesses.
I am just unhappy because pipe2 has shooting when there are so many other
shooting games.
And what I said throughout the recording, is not
Clement, about the martial arts.
Well, its quite simple.
We are taught at our meetings that martial arts is wrong in God's eyes.
Its as simple as that.
I am not part of the people who prepares the meetings, so I cannot tell you
why we are taught martial arts is wrong.
In our meetings there is no
That doesn't excuse you calling other developers loveless because
they make violent games. And the shooting in pipe 2 is vastly
different from shooting in other games. And I hate to be harsh... but
there are some things that are taught that just seem so obvious
shoudln't be believed... but to
So... half the dojo I practice in is obviously evil or
violence-loving... because at least half of us are Christians. That's
the problem with religion as a whole... it's too black and white.
Aikido, for example, is another martial art... yet is not aggressive
or violent. It focusses just as
There's no point in being taught something if you aren't prepared to ask
questions about it. I know of pastors who would say that you shouldn't just
follow blindly because if god gave us brains then he obviously intended for
us to use them.
To say that x is wrong and I'm saying this because
Clement, I have to agree. Yes, I do play many violent games, but for Three
reasons. 1. Because they have a bit of violence, but not to turn me out. 2.
Because I enjoy them. 3. I'm not like those guys who think if they play
violent games they could shoot and kill who they please.
And Clement.
It is not wrong, sie. Sometimes there are times when there is not a point to
pay attention to some people.
HTH.
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To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a
People may try to teach you something, but why do you believe their
attempted teachings? If I have been playing games in which death occurs for
a number of years with no ill effects on my character, and people preach to
me that this is wrong because of what it will do to me, should I suddenly
Nicol,
There are two things I want to emphasise myself on this subject, and I want
you to be crystal clear on them..
Number one.
You believe what you want to believe. Don't let anybody brain wash you into
thinking that what I say goes and is the way forward in life. If you are
taught to
Hi Darren,
I wouldn't go as far as to say it is weak. Some people don't know what it is
to have a mind of their own. Some countries, families and authoritarians are
just so keen to make sure that the people under them are so scared of
thinking of things in their own free will and using their
If God hates violence, I wonder what he thought of David's battle with
Goliath? How about the drowning of the Egyptians in the Red Sea? The flood
that Noah and his family survived? The destruction of Sodom and Gomorra?
Let's go into our daily lives. Ever killed a fly, cockroach or
Hi Clement,
I cirtainly will ask about there PS3 models.
Fighting and music games are alright for me. There are quite a few,
after all and they all have something different about them.
Besides, there still games like You don't know Jack.
Best regards
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all nice, but... blindsoftware.com? meh, that name just sounds so absolutely
blink'ish. and I probably wouldn't offer games through it. I think justin
should have bscgames.com redirect to blindsoftware.com rather than just
killing it, since it'll be a hard change. if anyone could forward my
Hi Charles,
Well said.
I believe that violence is essential for survival. In all other aspects such
as greed, vengeance, anger, hatred, jealousy, I believe it is wrong. Who
knows? Maybe if everybody believed that there would be no wars or murders in
the world. But of course that will never
Hi Bryan,
well, maybe this would be the opportunaty to refresh your German a bit.
*smiles*
But there should be such stores in the US as well, like you said. I hope
you find something. *smiles*
Best regards
Sarah
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Hi there, I'm sorry but I don't remember your name.
but I did listen to your voice recording and here are my thoughts.
What you can do is instead of burning your bridges what you can or
could have done is talk with developers and make a game of your own. If
you don't like a game, just don't
Hi Michael,
yeah, your arguments are very valid. Taking into account what others
already said, I think it will really be a play station.
As for final fantasy, I really would like to play these games myself.
But I really have no idea, how a blind person could play them all alone.
I listened
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Hi all,
First things first. Please let noone be offended, I am talking here about
some true things that occured to me, and some others still in the topic of
gaming and religion.
Several religious organizations tried to get me in a fiew ways, some of
those similar to Nikol's ways,
Hi Tommy,
thanks, I'll check out these. *smiles*
Best regards
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Exactly. And that's why we have brains in our sole.
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a strong message about the future of games for the
vi
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 01:45:35PM +0200, NIcol wrote:
I've done a recording where I talk about how I feel about the future of
games for the vi.
[My Reply:]
Hi NIcol,
No offense, but I'mm still sitting here, waiting for the
download to complete, because I don't want the
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 04:43:23AM -0800, Clement Chou wrote:
What you're basically saying here, to me, is that people should only
consider Jehova witnesses when making games. You and only you.
[My Reply:]
Hi Clement,
No worries. The righteous don't need to be saved, and Jesus
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 04:00:39PM -, darren harris wrote:
I know of pastors who would say that you shouldn't just follow blindly
because if god gave us brains then he obviously intended for us to use
them.
[My Reply:]
Hi Darren,
I think it goes:
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 05:44:28PM +0200, NIcol wrote:
We are taught at our meetings that martial arts is wrong in God's eyes.
[My Reply:]
Hi Nicol,
Then why did God warn the Israelites that if they didn't kill
every Philistine, man, woman, child,, and livestock, that they'd
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 07:56:13AM -0800, Clement Chou wrote:
and again, I bring you back from the crusades. If god hated violence,
and all us Christians were taught to go against that, crusades would
never have happened.
[My Reply:]
Hi Clement,
Well, as you can plainly see
Yes, please do it on dropbox.
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:38 PM
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vi
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 01:45:35PM +0200, NIcol wrote:
How about those of us who don't have Drop Box?
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a strong message about
while (as a student of philosophy for many years), I certainly have opinions
on this subject, might I suggest list members back off a bt.
Having 30 people all post long explanations about why your wrong can be at
the least intimidating. Might I suggest people try and phrase their
Actually, even though if you don't have dropbox, you can still download the
files as much as you want.
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:28 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] downloading
In the recording, which I am now listening to, it is stated that there are
no games for the blind that don't contain violence or the super natural?
Ever tried any of the racing or puzzle or trivia games? How about the
sports games?
It is said that God hates violence, yet have you never
I am not asking for that, Charles. I know if I think if I just think about
the issue in that manner, I would live in my own world which wouldn't be
fun. I was just curious to listen. and the reason is because of what I heard
and because of the sendspace payment thing. - Original Message
Hi Nickol,
Martial arts is not wrong because you have the right to self defense.
Also this website
http://www.catholic.com/radio/event.php?calendar=1category=event=6493date=2010-11-22
Talks about a catholic christian priest who studdied martial arts.
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Hi Nockol,
you wrote.
We are taught at our meetings that martial arts is wrong in God's eyes.
My question is this. who is teaching you that martial arts is wrong in
God's eyes and where are they getting their information from? In the old
testament the Israelites God's people went to war and
Hi
I looked up information on the crusades. this website has audio files
which accurately explains the crusades.
http://www.catholic.com/radio/event.php?calendar=1category=event=6452date=2010-10-25
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I am so sorry if you guys took this up the wrong way.
I must add that that was my first recording and I am a shy type of person
and my words might went down differently as intended.
I really thought that if I voice my thoughts in a recording, it would not
be seen as breaking the
Here's a dropbox link to a slightly smaller file - I dropped it down to
56kbps to halve the file size, but don't think really changed quality as
such.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13327195/vi%20gaming.mp3
Will just also say that I am not religious at all, and don't necessarily
agree with anyone
Hi Jacob,
Thank you. I can't thank you enough. Going to listen to it now.
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a strong message about the future of
God is no longer using miracles? Hmm. Healing that baffles doctors who
have tried everything they know? Babies being born? New plant life?
People not being injured, and surviving until a rescuer comes in earthquakes
and other tragedies? Stuff like this can be chalked up to miracles. And
Just curious: Are you taught that the teachings and occurrences in the Old
Testament are no longer valid because the entire Bible had not been written
yet? If so, what are we to think about where it all began? As in the book
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Man you know what I wish? I wish that Draconis would find a way to just
have the sports games in one package of ESP that would be way cool. I'm
lovin this home run game.
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Home run game'
you mean pinball extreme home run table?
oh that game was weird. hehe
On 2/28/11, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:
Man you know what I wish? I wish that Draconis would find a way to just
have the sports games in one package of ESP that would be way cool. I'm
lovin
Guys, Tom, Justin, please just forgive me!
I am really terribly sorry. sad face.
I am not joking.
Really guys, I made a big mistake.
I should have let my mom listen to the recording prior to posting it.
I realize that I used harsh words.
I am terribly afraid I will be summonsed for character
No worry man. I'll forgive you.
Tommy
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Ok guys, the recording I have done to sincerely apologized is on its way.
Its busy uploading.
Please bare with me; this is only 2 mb.
I've done it with sendspace as I have the sendspace wizard.
In the future if I do game recordings, I will try drop box.
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Ok guys, here is the link for my apology recording.
I hope things are cleared up finally.
Lets get back to gaming, shall we?
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hlh3g7
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it's actually one of the tables I like more, though i'm also fond of
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The Top Gun table is my favorite. It is not easy.
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it's actually one of the
Hi nicol.
It's doubtful that an isp provider would ever get involved for you
expressing an opinion online, there are afterall thousands of people
with blogs who do the same thing and express all manner of opinions from
course to inteligent on every subject imaginable.
Really Nicol, i'd
I've never managed to get to the bonus stage on that table, hmmm, I think i
need to give it another try.
Beware the Grue!
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:52 PM
O but I love that game, I just played it and kept getting more and more
new balls and once I got a high score, I'm about to eat dinner so had
to quit arg wish I'd have known my score, man o man that game is
addicting. Too bad its only a demo.
Original message:
Home run game'
you mean pinball
Hey Hey!!! its ok, you said what you felt you wanted to say, we
expressed our opinions, its ok. No worries.
Original message:
Guys, Tom, Justin, please just forgive me!
I am really terribly sorry. sad face.
I am not joking.
Really guys, I made a big mistake.
I should have let my mom listen to
Hi Nicol,
Nicol wrote:
Martial arts is violence and we are taught, everything connected to
violence is wrong because god hates violence; as simple as that.
My reply:
Nicol, you are welcome to believe whatever you want, but I can assure
you what you have been taught is false. Not only is it
Ok I have to agree with what is said here. for example the Sarah game
is just a game all the stuff is fiction especially Harry Potter they use
mechanical machines to produce the sound affects and pictures what
occurs in those movies. So I don't see any harm on what games are
created on this
Oh ok well you need to say when you are recording or posting messages
that is what I have been taught or that's what I heard in my opinion so
other people don't think that's not where you stand on that issue just
trying to help.
On 2/28/2011 10:41 AM, NIcol wrote:
Clement, it was never my
It's precisely because of matters like this that I don't like organized
religion. Games are just one example as far as I'm concerned.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Hi,
Nicol, I haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about; blacklisted
with Telkom?
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Hi Nicol,
It sounds as if what your people are saying is pure guesswork. I am a
Catholic, and I'll be the first to tell you that a lot of Catholic beliefs
are questioned but most of them have at least some biblical basis. What you
are saying about God no longer needing miracles or wars makes no
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Hi Nicol,
I just downloaded and finished listening to your message. Here are my
thoughts and comments in a sort of question and answer format.
Q: Tom, why must you use mythology in Mysteries of the Ancients?
A: Well, Nicol, there are a number of reasons why I use mythology in
my games like
Hi Nicol,
Nicol wrote:
Today we have the complete bible so today god is no longer using miracles
or wars.
My reply:
Oh, you of little faith. Do you seriously believe that God performed
thousands of myricles during the old testament period, Christ
performed thousands more during his life time
I agree here as well, Thomas, and have just one more point to mention
before I let this drop... I pretty much said all I had to say this
morning. lol.
To clear up for Nicol's benefit and anyone else who might be
wondering... although this is not strictly related to gaming.
Martial arts are
Hi Nicol,
Take it easy bro. Nobody is going to black list you, kick you off the
list, moderate you, or turn you over to the police or anything like
that. You expressed an opinion, and I for one wasn't offended by it.
Everyone has a right to their opinions, personal beliefs, and I've
learned a
I agree here as well, Thomas, and have just one more point to mention
before I let this drop... I pretty much said all I had to say this
morning. lol.
To clear up for Nicol's benefit and anyone else who might be
wondering... although this is not strictly related to gaming.
Martial arts are
Hi,
I agree; you have been taking a very rational standpoint. I could've
foreseen a lot worse.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Hi,
I like it as well; the name sounds like something APH would come up with.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Hi everyone,
Ok, I think all of us, including me, have gotten too carried away with
the games verses religion topic. Let us please stear things back on
topic as I don't think everyone wants to read another hundred messages
on this topic. However, before I go this is just a word of friendly
advice
Hi all, so here I am playing games and loving homerun as you all know
by now. But here is my dilemma and I'm wondering if I can do anything
about this? As sometimes in the ESP games I need to use the shift keys.
Sometimes when I'm running as fast as I can or throwing peanuts or
popcorn at
Agreed, Thomas... let's get back to gaming... whatever definition
that might have for people. I don't remember seeing this many
messages on the list in a day for quite a while. lol.
At 06:55 PM 28/02/2011, you wrote:
Hi everyone,
Ok, I think all of us, including me, have gotten too carried
Hi,
If you go into control panel, there is an option called accessibility. You
can email me if you need more help, but needless to say the option to
disable the shortcut is in there.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Well says Thomas.
Tommy
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On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 09:57:24PM +0200, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Here's a dropbox link to a slightly smaller file - I dropped it down
[My Reply:]
Thanks for the link! Hey! Popeye the Sailor isn't violent?!?!?
He kicked Bluto's butt in nearly episode of the cartoon!
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 12:00:40AM +0200, NIcol wrote:
I am really terribly sorry. sad face.
[My Reply:]
You're fired! We're taking away your driver's license, too.
That'll fix you.
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Hi,
I for one agree with you. The
blindsoftware.com
name sounds so unprofessional. Sounds like something lame that APH or
some other blind organization would come up with. I personally would
have been happier if they renamed them both BSC Software or something
like that.
Cheers!
On 2/28/11,
Hi Josh,
No offense there are a number of historical inaccuracies on the
website that are clearly taken from a Catholic only point of view, and
not from a broader more historical point of view. The Crusades, both
major and minor, is a very complex subject because there are so many
different
Yes I think we should get back to the game topic.
Tommy
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Hey, Phil, any word on when the new update for the Sarah game is going to
finally be released?
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this is all well and good but the games are old now no new titles are
forthcoming?
On 1 Mar 2011, at 02:53, Hayden Presley wrote:
Hi,
I like it as well; the name sounds like something APH would come up with.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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