Re: [Audyssey] Saturday's Game Chat
Well Phil, i've actually wanted to join that game but just don't fancy the hours. As to my own game, that is literally live and not online, and actually happens at my friends' house where, - though I take my laptop to reccord stats and use the Gma dice program, I can't connect to the net. I will say though that I've sometimes considdered running a game myself at a more reasonable time for people outside the Us, possibly Friday evenings. The only thing that stops me is though I've played for a few years, 've never gm'd and I know that's a totally different skill, particularly if I was dealing with players who were also inexperienced iin the game. If however someone could start a game at a more reasonable time for those of us closer to Gmt, it would be a good thing indeed. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Saturday's Game Chat Hi Dark, Hey 8 PM would be a great time for a break ! Most of the games on the For the People site start at 2 AM GMT and go to 4 AM GMT. Good for night owls but it should be renamed For the US People! My on-line Dungeons and Dragons sessions now occur 1 AM to 4 AM GMT. Phil - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Saturday's Game Chat unfortunately Phil, for one thig I'm not signed up to the chat sight, and for another that time slaps streight bang in the middle of my saturday evening 6-11 tabletop rp session, which isn't too helpful unfortunately. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Saturday's Game Chat Hi Folks, Philip Bennefall and me had a nice chat for over an hour in the games people play room. Too bad there were very few others there. Three other people popped in for a while. I will visit the room next Saturday at 3 PM Eastern which is 8 PM GMT and 9 PM Sweden time. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2517 - Release Date: 11/21/09 07:47:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Sometimes the idea behind the game isn't properly thought through. If an idea makes sense, it can most likely be programmed with more or less effort. It's true, some things aren't worth the effort to program, but it is a trade off between time, effort and what you want to do. dark wrote: hi Tom. It's just this is something which comes up a lot from various people, including me. who have wild ideas about games and perhaps not enough forthought behind them as to whether they would be possible with current techniques, current sounds or whatever. that's why a good and working knolidge of at least what is possible is needed even before you start considdering contracts etc. Beware the gRue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Multiple headphone jacks and gaming?
Hi. Recently, I picked up a double sterrio headphone jack from a hifi shop, sinse my idiotic downstairs neighbors are complaining about noise, but I stil want to have my friends round for massive doctor who watching evenings. This will let us both have headphones, in just as good quality as if I were using headphones alone. My stupid neighbors aside (I'm currently in discussions with the police about stopping their constant complaints, but that's another story), it did occur to me multi headphone sterrio jacks could be a great addition to audio multiplayer games at the same computer. Imagine for example a completely real time space invaders game with two guns, each with a different targiting sound, acting just the way the old Atari 2600 game did with it's two differently coloured spaceships appearing on screen at once. sets, with two sets connected to test this myself). What do people think? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hi Dar, This is very well put. However, I can't be expected to know the ins and outs of baking bread if I'm not a baker. Similarly, a nonprogrammer can't be expected to know how daunting a suggestion would be to program. Indeed, many things--even to programmers--look easy, but are time-consuming to program depending on how well the game was designed from the start. For instance, building a game to run off of extremely generic input and conditions is more work in the beginning, but adding stuff later on then becomes so easy it's amazing. As an example, I was able to add an autoplay mode to TDV a couple days ago with just a few lines of code. At the same time, some are difficult to code no matter how generic the game's running methods are. Even though it could be done with just one or two more lines of code, a programmer also has to consider performance impact, something we call running time. In the end, the impact a new feature will ahve on running time may not make it worth to code. If someone suggests to me, have the engine start in the off position when the game starts, to them it's probably just a matter of tell the game the engine is off and tell the player to turn it on. Unfortunately, from a programming perspective, it's not as simple as startEngine();. Again though, the person who suggestd it can't be expected to know that, and that's where the programmer's job comes in as dismissing or implementing features. I've had a lot of suggestions that have made it in to TDV, but I will agree tat some people take it too far--so much so that you can write a book called X's Suggestion: Why I Didn't Implement It. In the end though, whatever suggestion comes along is never a bad suggestion. I think everyone means well; in fact, I'd take it as a compliment that this person enjoys the game enough to offer up new features. Munawar A. Bijani Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed. - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha mailto:munaw...@gmail.com http://www.bpcprograms.com - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Al, saying i have no idea about programming but a great idea for a game is a bit like I have no idea about engineering but a great idea for a car you may have a fantastic idea for a car run on hydrogen fuel, but unless you've an idea of hydraulics, fuel convertion, how fuel relates to speed etc, you've got no chance of having a reasonable idea for a car. I too do not have the time to learn programming. Though I have game ideas, I do not share them or try to commition another person to make them, sinse they might be totally impossible. I simply store them up in my head until I may possibley at some point have the time to learn. Your much better considdering what is possible with current techniques, what ideas programmers have for games, and offering your informated in put on those ideas, as nded you are doing on this list and the entombed list, than cranking out wild ideas for games with nobody to make them. Oh btw, if one of the game creation engines such as Philip's scripting language or Tom's Genesis engine is completed, --- -there may be a very nice short cut to making games without knowing too much programming as well. That's certainly my hope, though I might considder seeing if I can learn programming when my phd is finished, assuming then of course I'm not busy with creative writing or other projects as is also likely. Beware the gRue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hi Al, I was recently offered 10 to 15 thousand dollars to program an accessible game. I have also been asked to join a company that produces and sells accessible games. Unfortunately I can not afford to make any money. And of course the gentleman that offered me the 10 to 15 thousand dollars did not mention anything about the game idea that he has. Don't suppose one would want to for fear that I would just take his idea and run with it. BFN Jim Share and enjoy, share and enjoy! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] game suggestion for Jim
Hi Peter, I have never driven a bus or large truck, just cars, motorcycles, go carts, tractors and stuff like that. And truthfully the Logitech MOMO Racing steering wheel that I have feels more like a car's steering wheel and peddles more than anything else. BFN Jim My steering wheel is a Logitech MOMO Racing. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] First computer
Hi Jacob, Thanks for the url to your web site. It looks pretty good. I also have a personal page on my site. However I have recently cut and pasted much of it here. grin Not exactly lucky, but a motorcycle verses car accident could have been much worse right? BFN Jim check my web site for my new personal information page j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Message to Jim Kitchen from a friend (and metoacertain extent)
Hi Jacob, That's too bad about you wasting your friends life with all of the cool games etc that you turn her onto. grin I sure have wasted the major part of my life creating and playing computer games. Of course I really don't consider it wasted time. BFN Jim We waste more time by 8:00 in the morning than other companies do all day. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hi Munawar. This is exactly what I was getting at, it wasn't meant as a don't make suggestions more a be careful what you suggest I like to think that over a long time of playing various sorts of games and discussing them in detail, even though I've never porgrammed a game, I've gained a litle understanding of what is easy to implement and what is not. At the same time, I'd stil bow to the expertees of someone who had more practical experience than I have, and try to tailor my suggestions accordingly. that's why suggesting and play testing and implementing needs to be such a major dialogue. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Message to Jim Kitchen from a friend (andmetoacertain extent)
Yes Jim, you are a horrible time waister! please make your games more boring and less addictive in the future so that we can actually get something useful done, I'm very glad your starting to recognize the terrible problem you are creating here! Grin! Beware the grue!¬ Dark. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Jacob Kruger Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Message to Jim Kitchen from a friend (andmetoacertain extent) Hi Jacob, That's too bad about you wasting your friends life with all of the cool games etc that you turn her onto. grin I sure have wasted the major part of my life creating and playing computer games. Of course I really don't consider it wasted time. BFN Jim We waste more time by 8:00 in the morning than other companies do all day. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hi, What if you are a creative person, with an excellent game idea that he or she believes ... In any event, you may have a little money to put into a project, ... but you simply don't have the time to really learn how to program. So what do you do? ... Turning a game idea in to a game can be done, but the hours it takes to do it vary from programmer to programmer. There are programmers available for hire, but you'd have to be very specific on what you want. A hired programmer's job is to program, not to help draw out a plot or features list. That's where the challenge would be. You, as the man behind the project--the one with all the ideas, storylines, features, etc.--would be thinking differently than the programmer who programs these ideas into the game you want them to create. It could very well be that an idea you give them later on can't be done because of the way they programmed it, or it would cost you an unreasonable amount to code because the programmer would have to make unexpected changes. Another reason your money will drain quickly is because there are several stages to a software development lifecycle. Among these are design. The programmer will have to (if they're a smart and experienced programmer) draw out a basic outline of how the game will work, from the programming perspective. This way, if all goes well and they did it correctly, the game they build will be running on a very generic core, allowing them to add new features and move stuff around without breaking the mass of the code. All the while their hourly counter is ticking away, and your money is going. Developers can easily spend years of programming time, depending on how large-scale the game is. So yes, hired programmers exist, but it's not cheap labor. How would the ownership of the program belong to, and what would the financial sharing look like? Good question. People have different opinions on this one. If you hire a programmer to work for you, they'll be under a contract that will lay out everything ahead of time. Contracts are an excellent way to seal a deal. The drawback is, once you sign a contract, it's pretty much a closed matter, and you can't change it without serious legal repercussions--once again costing money. Developers use contracts all the time--not always for financial reasons, I might add. For instance, I've had to have some parents of minors sign an agreement for me because their child participated--no matter how minutely--in the development of TDV. Granted, the terms of the financial agreement are up to you and the programmer you are hiring. If done correctly, contracts will save a lot of headake in the long run since both of you know what you are proportioned. I do remember someone having an issue with a programmer who took the work put into a project How does one go about avoiding that, that is to say, if it is feasible to accomplish such an arrangement? It is possible. Remember though, humans will do anything at all to satisfy their needs. The more legal protection you have, the better. What I suggest you do if you ever go in to a contract is to have witnesses present. Ask your employee several times whether or not they accept the agreement, and get all of your witnesses to sign testifying that the person agreed fully. Present them with ridiculous amounts. For instance, you can say something like suppose the game brought in $5. Is this agreement still acceptable? That way, if indeed the game brings in $50,000 and they challenge you, you and your witnesses are there to testify against yor employee. I'll be honest, i'm kind of fishing here, but I am also interested for just knowledge sake as well to see what everyone thinks. No problem, you have very legitimate questions, and not everyone is expected to be a programmer; otherwise programmers wouldn't be in such high demand as they are now. Munawar A. Bijani Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed. - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha mailto:munaw...@gmail.com http://www.bpcprograms.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] How to non program a game
Allan asked how you would have someone program your game without problems regarding ownership and the like. The only way that really works is to have a contract with a game developer/programmer that spells out all the details of rights, payment and the like. There are programmers who are contractors and who would be capable of doing what you want. The contract would spell out the deliverables, the time-line, the ownership and the reimbursement. Depending on the size and specifications for the game, this can get expensive, but in this time when work is harder to come by than in really great economic times, you can probably find someone who could do it. You would need to get specifications pulled together to identify the qualifications needed to do the job so you find someone who is qualified to produce what you want. I'm sure other programmers on this list like Thomas, Philip and Jim can help to identify what skills you should be looking for to develop the game you are thinking about. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hi folks, I work with contractors all the time and as Eleanor says, it's absolutely vital to get the specification as thurrow and detailed as possible. I've found www.RentACoder.com to be very good, especially if the budget is tight. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Eleanor elea...@7128.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Allan asked how you would have someone program your game without problems regarding ownership and the like. The only way that really works is to have a contract with a game developer/programmer that spells out all the details of rights, payment and the like. There are programmers who are contractors and who would be capable of doing what you want. The contract would spell out the deliverables, the time-line, the ownership and the reimbursement. Depending on the size and specifications for the game, this can get expensive, but in this time when work is harder to come by than in really great economic times, you can probably find someone who could do it. You would need to get specifications pulled together to identify the qualifications needed to do the job so you find someone who is qualified to produce what you want. I'm sure other programmers on this list like Thomas, Philip and Jim can help to identify what skills you should be looking for to develop the game you are thinking about. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2518 - Release Date: 11/21/09 19:41:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question about pcs.net
Hi. I heard on the net that Monkey Business is no longer being sold. How come it is still on the pricing list? Just curious. Dyna --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question on Monkey Business
Hey gamers. How can I get the full version of Monkey Business if it isn't being sold on Cd? I REALLy want to play the full version. My laptop can't download any games. Can someone help me? Thanks alot. Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question about pcs.net
I haven't heard that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:31 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question about pcs.net Hi. I heard on the net that Monkey Business is no longer being sold. How come it is still on the pricing list? Just curious. Dyna --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business
I'm afraid you're out of luck then if you can't download. Draconis hasn't sold games on CD for some years now. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business Hey gamers. How can I get the full version of Monkey Business if it isn't being sold on Cd? I REALLy want to play the full version. My laptop can't download any games. Can someone help me? Thanks alot. Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Now that's a very good point. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Al, I was recently offered 10 to 15 thousand dollars to program an accessible game. I have also been asked to join a company that produces and sells accessible games. Unfortunately I can not afford to make any money. And of course the gentleman that offered me the 10 to 15 thousand dollars did not mention anything about the game idea that he has. Don't suppose one would want to for fear that I would just take his idea and run with it. BFN Jim Share and enjoy, share and enjoy! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business
What is your download problem? Even if Monkey business was being sold on Cd, there are not a few great audio games you might want to buy which aren't. I'd say attacking the cause rather than the symptom here might be the best way round the problem. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business Hey gamers. How can I get the full version of Monkey Business if it isn't being sold on Cd? I REALLy want to play the full version. My laptop can't download any games. Can someone help me? Thanks alot. Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 action game, my opinion.
I am truly enjoying the game as it is now. This is because it is simple enough to play with out a very complex gaming interface. I have never been a big video gamer, and I can barely beet level 2 of the deaf world. I am really enjoying the game and feel that if the game is made more complex that I would have problems using the game. I played another side scroller (the one that came outfrom l-works). I enjoyed the game, but could nto get in to it do to the complexity of the higher levels. I am truly enjoying the game now. Thank you for making a game that is good. Hving very good sound effects and voice overs. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 action game, my opinion. Hi Thomas and others, About the age limit, I'll quote from the manual: The game is aimed at children aged 14+. There are some mild violent elements of a cartoon nature so adult supervision is advisable to younger gamers. So as you can see, it only says that the game is aimed and not restricted to children over 14. So 14 is merely a recommendation for parents who want to have a little more control over exactly what their children are subjected to; be it through a game, a film, etc. My parents had no problem with my playing titles with as much violence as Q9 when I was 11 or 12, but I know that some would and hense the notice in the manual. I also included it in order to protect myself in the event that the game would become more violent in the future as I would then have fairly free hands. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 action game, my opinion. Hi Dark, Yeah, I have to agree. Setting the age limit at 14 and up is a bit too strict for this title. At around 6 or 7 I was playing Montezuma's Revenge. I was about 9 or so when games like Double Dragon, Megaman, Mario Brothers, etc really became popular. My mom and dad had no problem with me playing those games. Not even Castlevania I which featured mummies, skeletons, the Grim Reaper, and other sci-fi and horror monsters. Compared to the games out today this game would be given an E for Everyone rating and not a T or Teen rating. dark wrote: Well, saying 14 is a bit much. I myself watched films like aliens, terminator and robocop and played games like Mortal combat and moon stone at the age of 10, heck, I playes treetfighter 2 at the age of 8. i'm not saying that games, films etc shouldn't have ratings, just that being too strict about it and the audience and markinting isn't too helpful. then again, it's possible people in the Uk are more relaxed on this front, or at least, are mostly. beware the gRue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.68/2507 - Release Date: 11/16/09 19:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business
being most computers duh, all computers, can download large and small files alike I'd be guessing it's the payment plan. I heard of such plans that charge you each x full amount of space or that give you x gigs/megs of bandwidth after which time each x unit adds to this month's fee. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business What is your download problem? Even if Monkey business was being sold on Cd, there are not a few great audio games you might want to buy which aren't. I'd say attacking the cause rather than the symptom here might be the best way round the problem. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business Hey gamers. How can I get the full version of Monkey Business if it isn't being sold on Cd? I REALLy want to play the full version. My laptop can't download any games. Can someone help me? Thanks alot. Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business
Well peter, if that is the case, maybe Shirly could either wait until next month if the plan renews, or use a download manager to download a certain amount of the program as and when financially viable. Beware the gRue! Dark. - Original Message - From: peter Mahach piterm...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business being most computers duh, all computers, can download large and small files alike I'd be guessing it's the payment plan. I heard of such plans that charge you each x full amount of space or that give you x gigs/megs of bandwidth after which time each x unit adds to this month's fee. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business What is your download problem? Even if Monkey business was being sold on Cd, there are not a few great audio games you might want to buy which aren't. I'd say attacking the cause rather than the symptom here might be the best way round the problem. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business Hey gamers. How can I get the full version of Monkey Business if it isn't being sold on Cd? I REALLy want to play the full version. My laptop can't download any games. Can someone help me? Thanks alot. Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4333 (20090813) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Thanks for that information. It is good to know. smile. al - Original Message - From: Philip Bennefall phi...@blastbay.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Hi folks, I work with contractors all the time and as Eleanor says, it's absolutely vital to get the specification as thurrow and detailed as possible. I've found www.RentACoder.com to be very good, especially if the budget is tight. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Eleanor elea...@7128.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Allan asked how you would have someone program your game without problems regarding ownership and the like. The only way that really works is to have a contract with a game developer/programmer that spells out all the details of rights, payment and the like. There are programmers who are contractors and who would be capable of doing what you want. The contract would spell out the deliverables, the time-line, the ownership and the reimbursement. Depending on the size and specifications for the game, this can get expensive, but in this time when work is harder to come by than in really great economic times, you can probably find someone who could do it. You would need to get specifications pulled together to identify the qualifications needed to do the job so you find someone who is qualified to produce what you want. I'm sure other programmers on this list like Thomas, Philip and Jim can help to identify what skills you should be looking for to develop the game you are thinking about. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.76/2518 - Release Date: 11/21/09 19:41:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
This seems to be the growing consensus. It is good to know this for future reference. grin. thanks al - Original Message - From: Eleanor elea...@7128.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:12 AM Subject: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Allan asked how you would have someone program your game without problems regarding ownership and the like. The only way that really works is to have a contract with a game developer/programmer that spells out all the details of rights, payment and the like. There are programmers who are contractors and who would be capable of doing what you want. The contract would spell out the deliverables, the time-line, the ownership and the reimbursement. Depending on the size and specifications for the game, this can get expensive, but in this time when work is harder to come by than in really great economic times, you can probably find someone who could do it. You would need to get specifications pulled together to identify the qualifications needed to do the job so you find someone who is qualified to produce what you want. I'm sure other programmers on this list like Thomas, Philip and Jim can help to identify what skills you should be looking for to develop the game you are thinking about. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Q9 action game, my opinion.
If you're having problems withSuper Liam, and if youstill wanted to play it, I could probably help you out; some of it is complicated, and the sounds are not explained atall in the readme. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Reinhard Stebner Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:56 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 action game, my opinion. I am truly enjoying the game as it is now. This is because it is simple enough to play with out a very complex gaming interface. I have never been a big video gamer, and I can barely beet level 2 of the deaf world. I am really enjoying the game and feel that if the game is made more complex that I would have problems using the game. I played another side scroller (the one that came outfrom l-works). I enjoyed the game, but could nto get in to it do to the complexity of the higher levels. I am truly enjoying the game now. Thank you for making a game that is good. Hving very good sound effects and voice overs. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Philip Bennefall Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 action game, my opinion. Hi Thomas and others, About the age limit, I'll quote from the manual: The game is aimed at children aged 14+. There are some mild violent elements of a cartoon nature so adult supervision is advisable to younger gamers. So as you can see, it only says that the game is aimed and not restricted to children over 14. So 14 is merely a recommendation for parents who want to have a little more control over exactly what their children are subjected to; be it through a game, a film, etc. My parents had no problem with my playing titles with as much violence as Q9 when I was 11 or 12, but I know that some would and hense the notice in the manual. I also included it in order to protect myself in the event that the game would become more violent in the future as I would then have fairly free hands. Kind regards, Philip Bennefall - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 action game, my opinion. Hi Dark, Yeah, I have to agree. Setting the age limit at 14 and up is a bit too strict for this title. At around 6 or 7 I was playing Montezuma's Revenge. I was about 9 or so when games like Double Dragon, Megaman, Mario Brothers, etc really became popular. My mom and dad had no problem with me playing those games. Not even Castlevania I which featured mummies, skeletons, the Grim Reaper, and other sci-fi and horror monsters. Compared to the games out today this game would be given an E for Everyone rating and not a T or Teen rating. dark wrote: Well, saying 14 is a bit much. I myself watched films like aliens, terminator and robocop and played games like Mortal combat and moon stone at the age of 10, heck, I playes treetfighter 2 at the age of 8. i'm not saying that games, films etc shouldn't have ratings, just that being too strict about it and the audience and markinting isn't too helpful. then again, it's possible people in the Uk are more relaxed on this front, or at least, are mostly. beware the gRue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.68/2507 - Release Date: 11/16/09 19:53:00 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] Message to Jim Kitchen from a friend (andmetoacertain extent)
LOL! You need to hear her tone of voice since she's really _thanking_ us for taking a bit of her time, and giving her something to do with it. She also reckons she uses it as a form of motivation to plan things like studying since she'll literally reward herself with it sometimes. OTOH, I've also already started looking into using trivia for more serious sets of questions, in the random order it makes use of, but not sure you'd necessarily want to keep some of the sound clips for 'serious' use...LOL! Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Jacob Kruger Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Message to Jim Kitchen from a friend (andmetoacertain extent) Hi Jacob, That's too bad about you wasting your friends life with all of the cool games etc that you turn her onto. grin I sure have wasted the major part of my life creating and playing computer games. Of course I really don't consider it wasted time. BFN Jim We waste more time by 8:00 in the morning than other companies do all day. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4627 (20091121) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] First computer
Will check it out. Yes, fact is could quite easily have been in a wheelchair as well, or both deaf (do wear hearing aids, but can still hear most things without them) and blind, etc. etc. The other joke is reckon with the luck I've had, I can now ride a bike almost anywhere I want and won't even hit a bug again...LOL! (do wear full protective gear though) Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Jacob Kruger Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] First computer Hi Jacob, Thanks for the url to your web site. It looks pretty good. I also have a personal page on my site. However I have recently cut and pasted much of it here. grin Not exactly lucky, but a motorcycle verses car accident could have been much worse right? BFN Jim check my web site for my new personal information page j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4627 (20091121) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Great post, thanks. al - Original Message - From: Munawar Bijani munaw...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Hi, What if you are a creative person, with an excellent game idea that he or she believes ... In any event, you may have a little money to put into a project, ... but you simply don't have the time to really learn how to program. So what do you do? ... Turning a game idea in to a game can be done, but the hours it takes to do it vary from programmer to programmer. There are programmers available for hire, but you'd have to be very specific on what you want. A hired programmer's job is to program, not to help draw out a plot or features list. That's where the challenge would be. You, as the man behind the project--the one with all the ideas, storylines, features, etc.--would be thinking differently than the programmer who programs these ideas into the game you want them to create. It could very well be that an idea you give them later on can't be done because of the way they programmed it, or it would cost you an unreasonable amount to code because the programmer would have to make unexpected changes. Another reason your money will drain quickly is because there are several stages to a software development lifecycle. Among these are design. The programmer will have to (if they're a smart and experienced programmer) draw out a basic outline of how the game will work, from the programming perspective. This way, if all goes well and they did it correctly, the game they build will be running on a very generic core, allowing them to add new features and move stuff around without breaking the mass of the code. All the while their hourly counter is ticking away, and your money is going. Developers can easily spend years of programming time, depending on how large-scale the game is. So yes, hired programmers exist, but it's not cheap labor. How would the ownership of the program belong to, and what would the financial sharing look like? Good question. People have different opinions on this one. If you hire a programmer to work for you, they'll be under a contract that will lay out everything ahead of time. Contracts are an excellent way to seal a deal. The drawback is, once you sign a contract, it's pretty much a closed matter, and you can't change it without serious legal repercussions--once again costing money. Developers use contracts all the time--not always for financial reasons, I might add. For instance, I've had to have some parents of minors sign an agreement for me because their child participated--no matter how minutely--in the development of TDV. Granted, the terms of the financial agreement are up to you and the programmer you are hiring. If done correctly, contracts will save a lot of headake in the long run since both of you know what you are proportioned. I do remember someone having an issue with a programmer who took the work put into a project How does one go about avoiding that, that is to say, if it is feasible to accomplish such an arrangement? It is possible. Remember though, humans will do anything at all to satisfy their needs. The more legal protection you have, the better. What I suggest you do if you ever go in to a contract is to have witnesses present. Ask your employee several times whether or not they accept the agreement, and get all of your witnesses to sign testifying that the person agreed fully. Present them with ridiculous amounts. For instance, you can say something like suppose the game brought in $5. Is this agreement still acceptable? That way, if indeed the game brings in $50,000 and they challenge you, you and your witnesses are there to testify against yor employee. I'll be honest, i'm kind of fishing here, but I am also interested for just knowledge sake as well to see what everyone thinks. No problem, you have very legitimate questions, and not everyone is expected to be a programmer; otherwise programmers wouldn't be in such high demand as they are now. Munawar A. Bijani Knowledge is of two types: absorbed and heard. The heard knowledge is only useful if it is absorbed. - Imam Ali Ibn Abu Talib, Nahj Al-Balagha mailto:munaw...@gmail.com http://www.bpcprograms.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hi Jim, Yikes, ten thousand dollars up front is a bit much out of anything I could bring to the table, but I understand precisely what you mean when you say you can't afford to make money. It is funny, but also kind of frustrating. To be honest, money isn't really an issue with me. If I knew that someone would commit themselves to getting the job done from beginning to end, they can have all the profits, as long as I had reasonable creative control. Meaning that the story and structure of plot, characters, etc and so forth I would like the final say on but if something was too hard or too off base, I can switch gears to fit the new parameters. I am thinking of just writing up the ideas into a form for people to read, maybe submit it to the list or to the magazine and let it go. Thanks for writing, al - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Allan Thompson Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Hi Al, I was recently offered 10 to 15 thousand dollars to program an accessible game. I have also been asked to join a company that produces and sells accessible games. Unfortunately I can not afford to make any money. And of course the gentleman that offered me the 10 to 15 thousand dollars did not mention anything about the game idea that he has. Don't suppose one would want to for fear that I would just take his idea and run with it. BFN Jim Share and enjoy, share and enjoy! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Some good points that I never thought of, Tom. Geez, what a mess that can be. al - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game Hi Charles, Yes, things can get very messy in that situation. For that precise reason that's why most mainstream game companies refuse end user suggestions, story ideas, game ideas, etc. They know they have to sign a contract with them, and that could become a legal nightmare. Especially, if the game happens to be come very popular. Let's assume Joe Smith were to sign a contract with Sony Entertainment allowing them to use his ideas for Star Warrior for the grand sum of 10% of the total income. Well, it turns out Star Warrior is very popular and grosses 50 million dollars. Here is the guy with all the ideas and he gets only a meager 5 million for his idea when Sony walks away with the other 45 million. Suddenly he thinks he got shafted, got the short end of the stick, so now he sues Sony and wants a bigger chunk of the money. Say at least 20 million for his idea. Sony is going to tell him to jump in a lake because he got paid according to the contract, but he claims that the terms of the contract were unfair, that he was forced into accepting a lower percentage of the income, and so on. Now, he wants to renegotiate more favorable terms in the original contract. You can see how that could turn into a legal nightmare. The only people who get ritch in a case like that is the lawyers who will want their big chunk of the pie too. Charles Rivard wrote: I thought it was an interesting question, and from your first response, it sounds like things could get messy when it comes to having someone else do your programming. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question about pcs.net
Hi, I'm not sure what you mean by monkey Business is no longer for sale. Monkey Business is still for sale. It is currently owned and sold by Draconis Entertainment http://www.draconisentertainment.com and costs like $34.95 USD. The only thing i can think of to give you that impression is that Monkey Business, like all of Draconis's games, are now download only. They no longer sell the installation cds. Is that what you mean? Shirley Starblanket wrote: Hi. I heard on the net that Monkey Business is no longer being sold. How come it is still on the pricing list? Just curious. Dyna --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on Monkey Business
Hi, Why can't you download it? Is there some bandwidth restriction or cap on your download limits that prevents you from downloading the game? I'm afraid i really don't get what the problem is here. On todays high speed connections it only takes a minute or two to download, and part of the reason why Draconis no longer sells the cds. Most people have high speed internet and no longer need to buy the cds. Plus shipping media to a person costs the developers added expense which they don't have to pay for through download purchases. Cheers! Shirley Starblanket wrote: Hey gamers. How can I get the full version of Monkey Business if it isn't being sold on Cd? I REALLy want to play the full version. My laptop can't download any games. Can someone help me? Thanks alot. Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] the shields of q9
One thing I'm not clear on is how to use them. Do you activate them with the space bar and face the enemies so they can attack and get their own medicine back at them twice?, or do you still have to hit the space bar each time you want to do damage. Thanks. --- This coming Thursday is Thanksgiving day in the United States. Be thankful for, and with, friends, family, good food, and loved ones, not necessarily in that order. Be like a turkey and get stuffed!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Multiple headphone jacks and gaming?
hmmm as I said on the other list you can't wear 2 sets at the same time so it wouldn't work. At 11:46 p.m. 22/11/2009, you wrote: Hi. Recently, I picked up a double sterrio headphone jack from a hifi shop, sinse my idiotic downstairs neighbors are complaining about noise, but I stil want to have my friends round for massive doctor who watching evenings. This will let us both have headphones, in just as good quality as if I were using headphones alone. My stupid neighbors aside (I'm currently in discussions with the police about stopping their constant complaints, but that's another story), it did occur to me multi headphone sterrio jacks could be a great addition to audio multiplayer games at the same computer. Imagine for example a completely real time space invaders game with two guns, each with a different targiting sound, acting just the way the old Atari 2600 game did with it's two differently coloured spaceships appearing on screen at once. sets, with two sets connected to test this myself). What do people think? Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9
Nope, just activate them and let them do their magic. Usually I switch back to my club while the shield in in effect, then smack the enemies around myself too so as to get through more quickly. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 One thing I'm not clear on is how to use them. Do you activate them with the space bar and face the enemies so they can attack and get their own medicine back at them twice?, or do you still have to hit the space bar each time you want to do damage. Thanks. --- This coming Thursday is Thanksgiving day in the United States. Be thankful for, and with, friends, family, good food, and loved ones, not necessarily in that order. Be like a turkey and get stuffed!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Multiple headphone jacks and gaming?
, where did I say I was going to wear two sets? I was thinking of this for having the advantage of a complete and complex sterrio environment for multiplayer audio games, multiplayer meaning, two people! I tested the jack myself by plugging in two sets of headphones and listening to the quality on both successively, sinse the last thing I'd want when I'm sitting down to watch through Doctor who with my friend is to suddenly find one set of headphones had pants audio quality! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9
What I do is activate the shield with spacebar, and then I switch back to the club or slingshot. The shield will do damage for a certain amount of time, while you are facing the enemies, so I get the best of both worlds by using the shield for its timed usage, and wack the other enemies with the club or slingshot while the shield is still active. You only need to press spacebar once per shield. Jeremy - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 One thing I'm not clear on is how to use them. Do you activate them with the space bar and face the enemies so they can attack and get their own medicine back at them twice?, or do you still have to hit the space bar each time you want to do damage. Thanks. --- This coming Thursday is Thanksgiving day in the United States. Be thankful for, and with, friends, family, good food, and loved ones, not necessarily in that order. Be like a turkey and get stuffed!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4628 (20091122) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
what, why not afford to make ny cash do you have benifit restrictions like damien does? In new zealand to some extent we are exempt from said things, ofcause if we are earning a million bucs then maybe that would go away but hmph. At 01:53 a.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Al, I was recently offered 10 to 15 thousand dollars to program an accessible game. I have also been asked to join a company that produces and sells accessible games. Unfortunately I can not afford to make any money. And of course the gentleman that offered me the 10 to 15 thousand dollars did not mention anything about the game idea that he has. Don't suppose one would want to for fear that I would just take his idea and run with it. BFN Jim Share and enjoy, share and enjoy! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question on downloading
Hey gamers. Do I need a CD to download? Maybe that is my problem. I am so slow when it comes to technology. Anyway, do I? Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] question on game hot keys
Hi everyone. I am just wondering if a game can be made for a laptop. When I play my games, it's on a laptop and there is some keys my laptop don't have. For example, the scroll lock key, so I don't know how many monkeys I have left to catch on Monkey Business. So, just a thought. Enjoy yourself. Dyna --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Game chat time
Hey gamers. What time dows the game chat start in my time? I live in Saskatchewan Canada.Oh, what does GMT stand for? I want to join the chat. I've read the policies three times to get it. Thanks. Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Fwd: JamochaMUD release (Accessibility testing)
Begin forwarded message: From: KehzaFox kehza...@gmail.com Date: November 22, 2009 9:20:27 PM EST To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Subject: JamochaMUD release (Accessibility testing) Reply-To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com Hi folks, I have just released a new version of JamochaMUD, a free (open source) Java MUD client. I'm working toward making JamochaMUD as accessibility as possible and always looking for feedback. If anyone feels brave enough to try out the lastest version (version 4.4), you may try the webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html My apologies if this is seen as a mis-use of this mailing list. Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on downloading
Not at all. To download, simply go to Draconis (or elsewhere), where it gives the download link, and click on that. Whatever brouser your using will probably then come up with a box similar to a save dialogue. First it'll ask you if you wish to run or save the file. Click save, then you'll have a save dialogue similar to ones you'll have probably seen in word processors or other such applications. Just click save, and wait for your file to download. Assuming you've got a reasonably fast net connection, it shouldn't take long. Then, go and find wherever you saved the file, and open it with enter, after that just follow the installer instructions and your related to robert! hth. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question on downloading Hey gamers. Do I need a CD to download? Maybe that is my problem. I am so slow when it comes to technology. Anyway, do I? Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9
Just hit space once to activate them and they'll do the rest. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 One thing I'm not clear on is how to use them. Do you activate them with the space bar and face the enemies so they can attack and get their own medicine back at them twice?, or do you still have to hit the space bar each time you want to do damage. Thanks. --- This coming Thursday is Thanksgiving day in the United States. Be thankful for, and with, friends, family, good food, and loved ones, not necessarily in that order. Be like a turkey and get stuffed!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hi Shaun, Yes, there are benifit restrictions. It depends on if the person is on SSI or SSDI. In either case there are some restrictions involved. I can't quite remember the exact amounts, but if I'm correct here is how it works for those people on SSI. You can make up to $80 per month without it effecting your SSI benifits. After that you lose a dollar for every two dollars you earn, or something like that. After a certain point Social security cuts the person off at the knees as he/she is making too much to qualify for the program. Plus he or she must turn in their income to the IRS for tax purposes, and the IRS takes their cut of what you made. Failing to inform Social Security and the IRS of your earnings can actually cause the person involved owing both the IRS and Social Security Administration money. Not to say the least the person can do some serious jail time. So making money especially, unreported money, while on SSI can be a serious problem. I'm going to assume here Jim is on SSI or SSDI. Either way for him to take money under that kind of arrangement is very problematic. SSDI is more flexable, but there are still restrictions involved there too. shaun everiss wrote: what, why not afford to make ny cash do you have benifit restrictions like damien does? In new zealand to some extent we are exempt from said things, ofcause if we are earning a million bucs then maybe that would go away but hmph. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on downloading
No. At least I've never encountered that sort of situation. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 7:52 PM Subject: [Audyssey] question on downloading Hey gamers. Do I need a CD to download? Maybe that is my problem. I am so slow when it comes to technology. Anyway, do I? Dyna. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on game hot keys
Monkey business is one of the most annoying for a laptop, sinse it requires keys a laptop doesn't have, unless Draconis have fixed this sinse I last checked. Just about every other audio game though uses more standard keys exactly for this reason. Hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question on game hot keys Hi everyone. I am just wondering if a game can be made for a laptop. When I play my games, it's on a laptop and there is some keys my laptop don't have. For example, the scroll lock key, so I don't know how many monkeys I have left to catch on Monkey Business. So, just a thought. Enjoy yourself. Dyna --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
This is sounding worryingly familiar Tom. the Uk bennifit laws work very much the same way, with the nastier restriction that you actually can only have £6000 in savings or lose the lot, a penny over and everything goes west. pluss, once your off disability bennifit, your off! On the occasions that relatives have left me money or I've been able to save extra, I actually have to funnel it into an account my parents hold, sinse otherwise I'd actually be seriously struggling to ahve enough money even to buy food, let alone pay my tuition fees. You also under Uk law cannot legally work more than 16 hours a month and keep disability bennifits, and you can only work that 16 hours for a six month period as on the job training. For this reason my brother is stil! working voluntarily for a law firm trying to get his salicitor's training contract, because he legally cannot earn the money without losing his bennifits, and he couldn't make more than what his bennifits are giving him currently without working full time, which he cannot do. And that's aside from the £18000 student lone he stil owes the government for his five years at university geting a law degree and legal practice course, which is going up by an extra £1000 a year! Needless to say, this is also a practical question of disability, which the deffinition in my thesis is going to address. Appologies for the slightly off topic wrant, --- just put it down to inthusiasm about my research! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
aah I understand we had this issue and had to fight for it but we get exempt on the grounds that if something happens or if we need extra stuff we can or something to that effect. Interestingly enough people in the us and uk seem to have a few more issues than here. we seem to have got over most of our stereotypes and things which shouldn't bee, I mean we are a small country so exactly why small places get this quicker when we have less people is beyond me. At 04:24 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, there are benifit restrictions. It depends on if the person is on SSI or SSDI. In either case there are some restrictions involved. I can't quite remember the exact amounts, but if I'm correct here is how it works for those people on SSI. You can make up to $80 per month without it effecting your SSI benifits. After that you lose a dollar for every two dollars you earn, or something like that. After a certain point Social security cuts the person off at the knees as he/she is making too much to qualify for the program. Plus he or she must turn in their income to the IRS for tax purposes, and the IRS takes their cut of what you made. Failing to inform Social Security and the IRS of your earnings can actually cause the person involved owing both the IRS and Social Security Administration money. Not to say the least the person can do some serious jail time. So making money especially, unreported money, while on SSI can be a serious problem. I'm going to assume here Jim is on SSI or SSDI. Either way for him to take money under that kind of arrangement is very problematic. SSDI is more flexable, but there are still restrictions involved there too. shaun everiss wrote: what, why not afford to make ny cash do you have benifit restrictions like damien does? In new zealand to some extent we are exempt from said things, ofcause if we are earning a million bucs then maybe that would go away but hmph. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Maybe it would be worth me looking into the law in newzealand for my thesis, sinse it does seem a better model on this point. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game aah I understand we had this issue and had to fight for it but we get exempt on the grounds that if something happens or if we need extra stuff we can or something to that effect. Interestingly enough people in the us and uk seem to have a few more issues than here. we seem to have got over most of our stereotypes and things which shouldn't bee, I mean we are a small country so exactly why small places get this quicker when we have less people is beyond me. At 04:24 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, there are benifit restrictions. It depends on if the person is on SSI or SSDI. In either case there are some restrictions involved. I can't quite remember the exact amounts, but if I'm correct here is how it works for those people on SSI. You can make up to $80 per month without it effecting your SSI benifits. After that you lose a dollar for every two dollars you earn, or something like that. After a certain point Social security cuts the person off at the knees as he/she is making too much to qualify for the program. Plus he or she must turn in their income to the IRS for tax purposes, and the IRS takes their cut of what you made. Failing to inform Social Security and the IRS of your earnings can actually cause the person involved owing both the IRS and Social Security Administration money. Not to say the least the person can do some serious jail time. So making money especially, unreported money, while on SSI can be a serious problem. I'm going to assume here Jim is on SSI or SSDI. Either way for him to take money under that kind of arrangement is very problematic. SSDI is more flexable, but there are still restrictions involved there too. shaun everiss wrote: what, why not afford to make ny cash do you have benifit restrictions like damien does? In new zealand to some extent we are exempt from said things, ofcause if we are earning a million bucs then maybe that would go away but hmph. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
well on that note I have a couple accounts one is for investments and every so often I keep shoveling cash betwene the 2 accounts. so I don't get too much in either. Ofcause I don't usually have much cash as I contribute to board at home food power the net and other things as well as family stuff. My money gets mixed in with the family cash so no one loses out and its not like I am idol. this does mean on ocations I do have a bit of a large overdraft from 20 cents to a few hundred bucks in my account, but this goes away with the next payment or the next transfer. I don't look at my accounts as much as I should, but I know that is what happens as I have been told that is what happens. There is no restriction per say but lets just say we don't take things for granted here. At 04:37 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: This is sounding worryingly familiar Tom. the Uk bennifit laws work very much the same way, with the nastier restriction that you actually can only have £6000 in savings or lose the lot, a penny over and everything goes west. pluss, once your off disability bennifit, your off! On the occasions that relatives have left me money or I've been able to save extra, I actually have to funnel it into an account my parents hold, sinse otherwise I'd actually be seriously struggling to ahve enough money even to buy food, let alone pay my tuition fees. You also under Uk law cannot legally work more than 16 hours a month and keep disability bennifits, and you can only work that 16 hours for a six month period as on the job training. For this reason my brother is stil! working voluntarily for a law firm trying to get his salicitor's training contract, because he legally cannot earn the money without losing his bennifits, and he couldn't make more than what his bennifits are giving him currently without working full time, which he cannot do. And that's aside from the £18000 student lone he stil owes the government for his five years at university geting a law degree and legal practice course, which is going up by an extra £1000 a year! Needless to say, this is also a practical question of disability, which the deffinition in my thesis is going to address. Appologies for the slightly off topic wrant, --- just put it down to inthusiasm about my research! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
hmmm. i have not touched this but we have laws that make us exempt from jury duty for instance and other things. Its sertainly a fearer system. Supprising than the us or uk, I think that its ok if your spouse is blind and you have blind childrent o though I only had one cast but it seems that we have a semi fearer system as supposed to others. on that note we are going way off topic, dark if you want to take anything up with me then I think we better go off list. At 04:46 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Maybe it would be worth me looking into the law in newzealand for my thesis, sinse it does seem a better model on this point. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game aah I understand we had this issue and had to fight for it but we get exempt on the grounds that if something happens or if we need extra stuff we can or something to that effect. Interestingly enough people in the us and uk seem to have a few more issues than here. we seem to have got over most of our stereotypes and things which shouldn't bee, I mean we are a small country so exactly why small places get this quicker when we have less people is beyond me. At 04:24 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, there are benifit restrictions. It depends on if the person is on SSI or SSDI. In either case there are some restrictions involved. I can't quite remember the exact amounts, but if I'm correct here is how it works for those people on SSI. You can make up to $80 per month without it effecting your SSI benifits. After that you lose a dollar for every two dollars you earn, or something like that. After a certain point Social security cuts the person off at the knees as he/she is making too much to qualify for the program. Plus he or she must turn in their income to the IRS for tax purposes, and the IRS takes their cut of what you made. Failing to inform Social Security and the IRS of your earnings can actually cause the person involved owing both the IRS and Social Security Administration money. Not to say the least the person can do some serious jail time. So making money especially, unreported money, while on SSI can be a serious problem. I'm going to assume here Jim is on SSI or SSDI. Either way for him to take money under that kind of arrangement is very problematic. SSDI is more flexable, but there are still restrictions involved there too. shaun everiss wrote: what, why not afford to make ny cash do you have benifit restrictions like damien does? In new zealand to some extent we are exempt from said things, ofcause if we are earning a million bucs then maybe that would go away but hmph. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9
I like the shields, but the problem I find with them is that they run out unexpectedly and I find myself being attacked. If we had a 3 second warning or something before the shield ran out and if we could activate another shield in that time it would be awesome. main problem here is we have to wait for the shield to run out before activating another. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 Just hit space once to activate them and they'll do the rest. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 One thing I'm not clear on is how to use them. Do you activate them with the space bar and face the enemies so they can attack and get their own medicine back at them twice?, or do you still have to hit the space bar each time you want to do damage. Thanks. --- This coming Thursday is Thanksgiving day in the United States. Be thankful for, and with, friends, family, good food, and loved ones, not necessarily in that order. Be like a turkey and get stuffed!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9
You can tell a shield is on it's way out because the vibration of it increases in speed. I don't mean the pitch goes up, I mean that kinda wah noise it makes slowly when you first activate it increases. Hth Scott On 11/23/09, Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com wrote: I like the shields, but the problem I find with them is that they run out unexpectedly and I find myself being attacked. If we had a 3 second warning or something before the shield ran out and if we could activate another shield in that time it would be awesome. main problem here is we have to wait for the shield to run out before activating another. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 Just hit space once to activate them and they'll do the rest. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 One thing I'm not clear on is how to use them. Do you activate them with the space bar and face the enemies so they can attack and get their own medicine back at them twice?, or do you still have to hit the space bar each time you want to do damage. Thanks. --- This coming Thursday is Thanksgiving day in the United States. Be thankful for, and with, friends, family, good food, and loved ones, not necessarily in that order. Be like a turkey and get stuffed!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Multiple headphone jacks and gaming?
Other than the fact that a passive splitter jack halves the signal each set of headphones are being sent, which most likely wouldn't even make a particularly noticeable difference unless you're using mega good cans, there's nothing but fun to this idea. I remember playing Mortal Kombat 3 and some flavour of Quake over LAN when I was at a college with a very liberal IT department hehe, but in actual coding terms I should imagine playing over LAN isn't too much different then playing over whatever protocol people choose to use to connect gamers over the internet, except there'd probably be even more tech support involved for the devs because LAN options are way easier to mess up. Dark, were you thinking more along the lines of a 2 player setup where each player has half the keyboard or if a game was turn-based? So 2 people yes, but on one computer, as opposed to more traiditional LAN or net play? If so, it sounds like fun. Actually even if not, it sounds like fun. Scott On 11/23/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: , where did I say I was going to wear two sets? I was thinking of this for having the advantage of a complete and complex sterrio environment for multiplayer audio games, multiplayer meaning, two people! I tested the jack myself by plugging in two sets of headphones and listening to the quality on both successively, sinse the last thing I'd want when I'm sitting down to watch through Doctor who with my friend is to suddenly find one set of headphones had pants audio quality! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] question on game hot keys
My netbook has a scroll lock key. It's fn+delete. does that help[ any? don't know if every laptop has that or not. - Original Message - From: dark To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] question on game hot keys Monkey business is one of the most annoying for a laptop, sinse it requires keys a laptop doesn't have, unless Draconis have fixed this sinse I last checked. Just about every other audio game though uses more standard keys exactly for this reason. Hth. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Shirley Starblanket dyna.hender...@sasktel.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:55 AM Subject: [Audyssey] question on game hot keys Hi everyone. I am just wondering if a game can be made for a laptop. When I play my games, it's on a laptop and there is some keys my laptop don't have. For example, the scroll lock key, so I don't know how many monkeys I have left to catch on Monkey Business. So, just a thought. Enjoy yourself. Dyna --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091122-1, 11/22/2009 Tested on: 11/23/2009 12:07:00 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
I'll considder that sean, right now I'm at the heavily deffinitiojnal end of my thesis, --- trying to establish all the ground work for the sort of principles I'm trying for. Blind people are also exempt from jury duty here too, it's just the inability to save, and the laws concerning bennifits which are such a nightmare as I've outlined. Either way, sinse this is Ot I'll stop. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game hmmm. i have not touched this but we have laws that make us exempt from jury duty for instance and other things. Its sertainly a fearer system. Supprising than the us or uk, I think that its ok if your spouse is blind and you have blind childrent o though I only had one cast but it seems that we have a semi fearer system as supposed to others. on that note we are going way off topic, dark if you want to take anything up with me then I think we better go off list. At 04:46 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Maybe it would be worth me looking into the law in newzealand for my thesis, sinse it does seem a better model on this point. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game aah I understand we had this issue and had to fight for it but we get exempt on the grounds that if something happens or if we need extra stuff we can or something to that effect. Interestingly enough people in the us and uk seem to have a few more issues than here. we seem to have got over most of our stereotypes and things which shouldn't bee, I mean we are a small country so exactly why small places get this quicker when we have less people is beyond me. At 04:24 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, there are benifit restrictions. It depends on if the person is on SSI or SSDI. In either case there are some restrictions involved. I can't quite remember the exact amounts, but if I'm correct here is how it works for those people on SSI. You can make up to $80 per month without it effecting your SSI benifits. After that you lose a dollar for every two dollars you earn, or something like that. After a certain point Social security cuts the person off at the knees as he/she is making too much to qualify for the program. Plus he or she must turn in their income to the IRS for tax purposes, and the IRS takes their cut of what you made. Failing to inform Social Security and the IRS of your earnings can actually cause the person involved owing both the IRS and Social Security Administration money. Not to say the least the person can do some serious jail time. So making money especially, unreported money, while on SSI can be a serious problem. I'm going to assume here Jim is on SSI or SSDI. Either way for him to take money under that kind of arrangement is very problematic. SSDI is more flexable, but there are still restrictions involved there too. shaun everiss wrote: what, why not afford to make ny cash do you have benifit restrictions like damien does? In new zealand to some extent we are exempt from said things, ofcause if we are earning a million bucs then maybe that would go away but hmph. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave
Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9
I disagree about being able to activate a new shield before your old one runs out, that would just make them ridiculous! A three second warning though, so that you can peg it away from most of the enemies before your shield stops might be a good idea however. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 I like the shields, but the problem I find with them is that they run out unexpectedly and I find myself being attacked. If we had a 3 second warning or something before the shield ran out and if we could activate another shield in that time it would be awesome. main problem here is we have to wait for the shield to run out before activating another. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 Just hit space once to activate them and they'll do the rest. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] the shields of q9 One thing I'm not clear on is how to use them. Do you activate them with the space bar and face the enemies so they can attack and get their own medicine back at them twice?, or do you still have to hit the space bar each time you want to do damage. Thanks. --- This coming Thursday is Thanksgiving day in the United States. Be thankful for, and with, friends, family, good food, and loved ones, not necessarily in that order. Be like a turkey and get stuffed!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Multiple headphone jacks and gaming?
It's the idea of two people on one computer with a set of headphones, and thus a full sterrio field, each, that I'm driving at here. As I said, imagine troopanum, with each player having control over a different gun with it's own targiting sound, cooperatively trying to shoot down the spaceships, or competing against each other for score. This has been possible for main stream players by having two characters on the same screen right sinse the 1970's, mulotiple headphone jacks would make it just as possible in audio. Of course, external speakers might be an option, but personally I've never had any luck playing complex audio games with speakers at all. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Multiple headphone jacks and gaming? Other than the fact that a passive splitter jack halves the signal each set of headphones are being sent, which most likely wouldn't even make a particularly noticeable difference unless you're using mega good cans, there's nothing but fun to this idea. I remember playing Mortal Kombat 3 and some flavour of Quake over LAN when I was at a college with a very liberal IT department hehe, but in actual coding terms I should imagine playing over LAN isn't too much different then playing over whatever protocol people choose to use to connect gamers over the internet, except there'd probably be even more tech support involved for the devs because LAN options are way easier to mess up. Dark, were you thinking more along the lines of a 2 player setup where each player has half the keyboard or if a game was turn-based? So 2 people yes, but on one computer, as opposed to more traiditional LAN or net play? If so, it sounds like fun. Actually even if not, it sounds like fun. Scott On 11/23/09, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: , where did I say I was going to wear two sets? I was thinking of this for having the advantage of a complete and complex sterrio environment for multiplayer audio games, multiplayer meaning, two people! I tested the jack myself by plugging in two sets of headphones and listening to the quality on both successively, sinse the last thing I'd want when I'm sitting down to watch through Doctor who with my friend is to suddenly find one set of headphones had pants audio quality! Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hello, In the US, the total amount of money you can have is $2000 if you are single and $3000 if you are a married couple who are both on SSI or SSDI. As for working, theyre are ways to get around the restrictions in order to earn some money, but it is complicated, and if you screw the calculations up, the government comes down quite hard on you. Basically, if you receive SSDI, you can earn up to $700 per month without penalty. Above that and you need to be very careful about including your blind-related work expenses, and you must be very good about keeping the proofs of everything you claim. SSD will allow you to earn nice amounts of money for up to nine months on the trial back to work program, and then you can receive another three months if you follow the paperwork properly. After 12 months, the SSD, and all related Medicare and MedicAid are removed. Finally, after the year of benefits while earning other money has completed, you cannot do it again for 72 months because, if you do, there is a good chance that it could take up to two years to reestablish your benefits when you stop working. David Chittenden, MS, CRC, MRCAA dark wrote: This is sounding worryingly familiar Tom. the Uk bennifit laws work very much the same way, with the nastier restriction that you actually can only have £6000 in savings or lose the lot, a penny over and everything goes west. pluss, once your off disability bennifit, your off! On the occasions that relatives have left me money or I've been able to save extra, I actually have to funnel it into an account my parents hold, sinse otherwise I'd actually be seriously struggling to ahve enough money even to buy food, let alone pay my tuition fees. You also under Uk law cannot legally work more than 16 hours a month and keep disability bennifits, and you can only work that 16 hours for a six month period as on the job training. For this reason my brother is stil! working voluntarily for a law firm trying to get his salicitor's training contract, because he legally cannot earn the money without losing his bennifits, and he couldn't make more than what his bennifits are giving him currently without working full time, which he cannot do. And that's aside from the £18000 student lone he stil owes the government for his five years at university geting a law degree and legal practice course, which is going up by an extra £1000 a year! Needless to say, this is also a practical question of disability, which the deffinition in my thesis is going to address. Appologies for the slightly off topic wrant, --- just put it down to inthusiasm about my research! Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game
Hello, That depends on what your thesis is. If it is about countries providing benefits for those who are blind, NZ and AU appear to have some of the better financial support systems set up. I am surprised to hear that the set-up in the UK is not so good. I thought it was similar to that of NZ and AU. If your thesis is about overall societal supports for the blind, this gets a little more complicated. I moved out to NZ eight months ago. Since I have arrived here, and I am living in Christchurch, I have only found one lift with braille or tactile markings on it, and the same with toilet doors. Don't even get me started about the buses. I have been purposefully passed by by buses when the driver realized I was the only person at the stop and noticed my guide dog, and I regularly have drivers forget about my requested stop; in one case causing me to miss an important business meeting because it took an hour to get back to the location. Note: this usually occurs at least three times per week. I have also had the transit authority tell me that I need to understand that when the bus is full, it is completely understandable if the driver forgets about my stop, so the driver will not be repremanded in any way. Every place has its positives and its negatives regarding how its blind residents are treated. David Chittenden, MS, CRC, MRCAA dark wrote: Maybe it would be worth me looking into the law in newzealand for my thesis, sinse it does seem a better model on this point. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] How to non program a game aah I understand we had this issue and had to fight for it but we get exempt on the grounds that if something happens or if we need extra stuff we can or something to that effect. Interestingly enough people in the us and uk seem to have a few more issues than here. we seem to have got over most of our stereotypes and things which shouldn't bee, I mean we are a small country so exactly why small places get this quicker when we have less people is beyond me. At 04:24 p.m. 23/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Yes, there are benifit restrictions. It depends on if the person is on SSI or SSDI. In either case there are some restrictions involved. I can't quite remember the exact amounts, but if I'm correct here is how it works for those people on SSI. You can make up to $80 per month without it effecting your SSI benifits. After that you lose a dollar for every two dollars you earn, or something like that. After a certain point Social security cuts the person off at the knees as he/she is making too much to qualify for the program. Plus he or she must turn in their income to the IRS for tax purposes, and the IRS takes their cut of what you made. Failing to inform Social Security and the IRS of your earnings can actually cause the person involved owing both the IRS and Social Security Administration money. Not to say the least the person can do some serious jail time. So making money especially, unreported money, while on SSI can be a serious problem. I'm going to assume here Jim is on SSI or SSDI. Either way for him to take money under that kind of arrangement is very problematic. SSDI is more flexable, but there are still restrictions involved there too. shaun everiss wrote: what, why not afford to make ny cash do you have benifit restrictions like damien does? In new zealand to some extent we are exempt from said things, ofcause if we are earning a million bucs then maybe that would go away but hmph. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
