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Oh absolutely. Any method of backing up is a good one. It just doesn't help
when your computer code keeps changing. As long as certain developers keep
using said system no matter how good the product is, I just won't buy from
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I recall hereing of a set of games on computers like the C64 called spindizy
which had those gyroscope style mechanics, but I've not played them
myself.
In truth Jacob, this is one reason I've been so excited about Tom's
work, right from the point he was designing the original Montiz
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tform jumping games like donkey kong, elevator
action, prince of persia, etc. etc.?
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Fair enough, it's justa method which has worked very well for me in the
past.
Beware the grue!
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From: "Darren Harris"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
Oh I've got my emails auto
Oh I've got my emails auto archiving every 24 hours so it's not backups
that's the issue. All keys and codes are stored in their own folder which is
stored on an office data file on another drive. So it's definitely not that
which is the issue.
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It's not even that,
The moment you format a pc the codes change so the key becomes useless. I've
also bought a new pc as well since then so again the code changed rendering
the keys also useless.
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Oh but Tom, i've ordered Mota, therefore I as your lord and master
here by command you to polish my boots!
grin!
Rather reminds me of a friend of mine who worked for a while as a tech
support assistant for the government m.o.t. service and was regularly phoned
by baffled mechanics w
Hi Thomas,
A very good and accurate summary. I thought along the same lines when I
decided to use the name/key approach, but was having second thoughts for a
while when I was told that at least 4 keys are already floating about all
over the place.
What I am going to do is this. Keep Q9 as it
Hi Charles,
Thanks. Anyone who works in customer service or has any dealing with the
general public would understand my frustration easy enough. Those who
haven't worked with the public on a daily basis have no idea how
stressful it can get.
Just for example a few years ago my mom was working f
Hi Philip,
That is a really tough question. Both as a game player and developer
myself I'm faced with this very question. Here is my thoughts on the matter.
What it really boils down to is a question of convenience for the
customer or better security for your product. As a developer who is
inte
personally, whenever I get a game, I copy the E-mail directly to a text
file, save it in my folder imaginatively called game keys, and that
folder, along with just about everything else on my computer's
harddrive which I want to hang on to get's stuck onto my handy backup
external har
I'm not sure, but this was to be about q9, wasn't it?
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Wow, that's 3 games down the pan... quite an expensive pan! I'm
assuming you're smart enough to be doing so already now but definitely
try and keep backups of your emails with keys in and whatnot. Having
been denied an extra key for a GMA purchase for a pretty daft reason
myself I feel your pain,
They were pretty secretive about that.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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From: "Darren Harris"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Audy
I agree completely there. But as you said that's another topic entirely and
not one for this list.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
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Se
Was? Is it over? I can't find any information as to what the result was.
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Behalf Of peter Mahach
Sent: 26 November 2009 20:35
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE:
the gw case was weird. I mean they accused them of, what, using more
advanced bookmark tech? they catched up in jaws 11. back then they didn't
have these marks tied to text rather than line.
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Sent: Thursday, Nove
Heya guys; I need a bit of help starting Soul Calibur 3- PS2 version...
I'm trying to play the main mode which is the path of souls- but not quite
sure when do I select the different paths and what the options are.
Any help would be great.
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If you
Right. Yes I don't really know much about that product but freedom box and
gw are really the way to go in terms of good business philosophies. I still
use the term freedom box because I think that fs's case against them was so
preposterous as to be laughable, just as the shot they took at gw micro.
Hi
Well I do have a legal copy but David Greenwood can't find me in his records
so I just haven't ever bothered buying either game again. They're good and
it's sad that I lost them but I just can't be bothered to shell out more
money for something that I know I did purchase. That's the real danger
Couldn't agree more with that statement.
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Behalf Of peter Mahach
Sent: 26 November 2009 19:12
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Subject: [SPAM] Re: [Audyssey] Registrations was RE: Q9 and cracks
...well
I don't do that my self but I heard of such people, in fact, I remember such
a guy popping up on this list. he was talking about being annoyed at
emailing devs each months for new keys... I think he was asking about
draconis's key system and he mensioned that. ouch!
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...well this is what I call freedom. gw, dolphin... they all are pretty nice
about their registrations. fs, is I'm afraid, not. nothin to do with freedom
on their side... except their name.
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From: "dark"
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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 200
I agree. I own many games that use this method of registration, but I
didn't email the developers for keys. Among them are all the titles made
with the GMA engine, railRacer and Judgment day.
Darren Harris wrote:
Right. Yes if the devs make it to difficult for people to use their product
then t
and we can't forget system access. they don't even ask for any keys. you pay
for an account and depending of your payment plan you keep your subscription
by paying monthly, yearly etc.
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Sent: Thursday, November 2
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Yes I can go with that one. Still I can't say that I'm a fan of fs and their
methods. I can't say that their business philosophy is a good one. I've
never had to worry about installing windoweyes on any of my systems previous
or otherwise I can just do it with no issue at all. That's what I call
fr
Well potentially, though I think if I wanted to register 20 systems
dolphin might be a bit confused.
They're also nicely relaxd about keys if they know you.
I was a litle concernedat one stage, sinse I'd just installed one version of
Hal on my laptop and desktop, then had to system r
I found all developers including vip gameszone were generally reasonable
after my desktop exploded in 2008, despite having many keys on my
laptop.
The only games I'm stil missing now are the lworks ones.
Mississippi I'm not certain of sinse I haven't personally bought the game.
Beware th
hmmm that rocks.
I must say if you keep things going you could in theory never run out of regs
and be able to reg as many systems as you liked as long as you waited that is.
At 04:07 a.m. 27/11/2009, you wrote:
>It doesn't come up with Hal either that I've noticed, and my computers have
>been thr
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If you wan
Well with any luck I'll be trying it myself on Tuesday.
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From: "dark"
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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 11:35 AM
Subject: Re
you can only unreg 3 times.
However if you reformat you can reg all you want.
the advantage is that you can have one key and switch around but only use one
system.
I don't care for net registration myself but if you must have it in addition to
having it have an account username and password you h
I tried initially to not use any other weapon but the club, but just
couldn't get through the cave world, mostly because of those blasted
bears!
I do sometimes wish it was possible to more easily avoid attacks, but as it
is, the only way seems to be kill youit before it hits you.
I
Good grief! reformatting your drive every month sounds like someone who has
their house keys locked in a box, and the keys to that box locked in
yet another box!
I know if I was a lock smith and someone who was doing this complained at me
for making my keys take too much time to unlock I'
I am so glad that common sense, kineness, understanding and well, let's just
say, forgiveness has won out in the end. Nobody is perfect, so welcome
thomas, and thanks for your invaluable input, despite whatever it was you
commited, lol i forget, but welcome anyway. Cheers!
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Hi philip.
Unfortunately as others have said it isn't ultimately going to make a whole
lot of difference what you do as far as security, there are people out there
who feel they are entitled to something for nothing and so they will steal
your product. If you do decide to go with an internet base
. etc.?
Stay well
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Hi,
There are some registration systems that only use the CPU serial, therefore
you would only need to register if you got a new processor.
Regards,
Damien.
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From: "Willem"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Aud
Yet everybody that needs a key has to email you.
Liam Erven wrote:
Agreed. Don't hurt the people that legally buy it. I'm am opposed to
interent registration because not everyone in the world has a net
connection.
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Hi Peter.
As long as the internet licensing system doesn't limit you, but still
keeps track of how many times the key is used there shouldn't be a problem.
When the same key gets licensed 50 times in 1 week that should give
Philip a good indication of what keys are given out. Also I think ther
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I've tried. Unfortunately there is no way to hit a bear without him hitting
you. You have to use a shield or sling shot in order to beat him without
getting hit.
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Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Thur
Hi bryan.
The problem is that some idiots are giving out their keys.
Bryan Peterson wrote:
I tend to agree here. I haven't yet registered my copy but I plan to
as soon as financially possible. And if, heaven forbid I should have a
computer failure I'd much rather be able to use the same key to
first sorry if I repeat my self (I did not read all messages)
now
no for gods sake no internet regging and compuiter based licensing or any
stupid counters! looking at peoplle who take security very seriusly they
might format their pc once a month. 3 months and the game goes banging on
them for
That's hardware activation for you. Plug in a USB stick and you stand a
chance of deactivating, for example, rail racer, because it thinks it's
a new system.
Darren Harris wrote:
Hi,
Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain
stupid though. Take jaws for example. My
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Well again it depends on how it's handled. I mean if you've got to format
your system for example or you're running multiple systems, I have a pc and
a netbook. So if I was using jaws, there's 2 authorisations gone before any
accidents happen. Yes you can get them reset but even that's a pain becau
It doesn't come up with Hal either that I've noticed, and my computers have
been through account crashes, registry issues and all sorts of fun without
messing up Hal. Pluss, dolphin give you a free extra registration every six
months just in case you do have a problem.
I'll say that's another
Hi Raul, ok, I have paypal and I absolutely love it so that is how we will
donate, thanks.
lelia
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From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] list owner and donations
Hello Lelia. You
Hi,
Some of the registration processes and what breaks them are just plain
stupid though. Take jaws for example. My partner had to have some ram
replaced on her pc. Now nothing else was changed. Nothing at all. Well jaws
went straight into demo mode. This was at work by the way. So as you can
imag
I'm a litle surprise at hereing that the save games folder is so large. over
here it's only 6 mb.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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From: "Willem"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bug in entombed 1.6
Hi Hayri
Hi all.
Agreed. This is a compromize between the restrictive hardware based key
system and the "one key activates anywhere" system. When using the
hardware key, you need internet to email and request a key anyway, so I
can't see how internet would be an issue in most cases. In fact you buy
the
Hi Hayri.
This could be an issue with your operating system or computer. If you
are having problems with other games you might have an issue on your end.
Hayri Tulumcu wrote:
it does not help to start up again Entombed it still takes a minute!
Saved games also fills over 300 MB now, so I wish i
Agreed Willem.
whatever your thoughts are on the issue of copywrites in general, and
please! I don't want to start that debate again, audio game developers need
sales to continue developing their games, if nothing else, sound libraries
and hosting are expensive things.
Beware the grue!
Hi tom.
It's simple. If according to you a game is not worth buying, then don't
buy it. The argument "I wouldn't have bought it anyway, so I cracked it"
is a stupid excuse that some people use to kid themselves and others.
The fact is that the audio game market is small enough without cracks
I just looked at my saved folder for Entombed, it's only about 8 meg. I'm
about the mid-point of the game.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Bug in entombed 1.6
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Well Philip, Sadly, people who didn't want buy some products can find a
way to crack it. Not important is, when, but in future, every
game/product will be cracked. This is a brutal world,. For me on-line
registrations are not very good, but this is my personal opinion.
For example, if someon
Well that is the way hal's internet registration works, which is fine
with me, and if philip wanted to introduce that sort of system with three
registrations per customer that wouldn't be an issue.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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To: "Gamers
it does not help to start up again Entombed it still takes a minute! Saved
games also fills over 300 MB now, so I wish if we could turn autosave from!
and
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From: "Jason Allen"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Audy
Hi Dark,
True enough. The system I'm working with, at least for now, allows you to
set a maximum number of computers.
You get a key, whether name or ID based, it activates online, but you can
register it up to how many computers you have available. I always allow up
to 3.
Regards,
Damien.
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My one problem with the vip gameszone's ssolution is it only allows their
games to be registered on one machine, quite a problem if you own both
a desktop and laptop.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursd
Hi Hayden,
In that case unregistration would be useful. That's how VIP Games Zone
approach this problem.
Regards,
Damien.
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From: "Hayden Presley"
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 and cracks
I
Hi Philip,
I think internet registration is the best course of action. I did wonder
whether there may be cracks floating around. Only yesterday, a certain
individual who will remain nameless approached me to give him my Q9 key.
Needless to say I point blank refused.
Regards,
Damien.
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Yes, it would be cool if I could have my game installed on both too, as I
take my netbook with me on trips and stuff and it would be nice to play
there as well. Guess that would only work with regular key registration.
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Hi Philip,
Similar setup to Dark here in that I have two computers and quite
often find myself on the road with only the laptop to game on. Some
developers have been cool about this, others less so. IMHO, the type
of people who crack or share keys will always do so, all your
protection will dict
the grue? where! where! Quick someone, get me a wooden torch!
yaah!
Dark.
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From: "Charles Rivard"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Amo checking was:Q9 version 1.1 released!
The grue is get
Right now, I can't actually imagine any faster system possible, - unless
Philip's working on a telepathic program which could ultimately read your
mind and determine you were the person who paid for the game!
I was amazed how litle time it took for me to get my Q9 key.
Beware the grue!
Da
Hi Philip.
As I have both a laptop and desktop, I personally like having audio games
installed on both. There are periods, sometimes up to weeks at a time,
when I can't get to my desktop at all.
If the internet registration would be similar to Vip gameszones, which only
allows the user
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