Re: [VOTE] Move Jakarta to the Attic; close down Jakarta PMC

2011-11-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
+1 On Nov 11, 2011, at 4:28 AM, Mladen Truk wrote: +1 On 11/10/2011 07:01 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: A joint vote to retire Jakarta into the Attic and to ask the board to close down the PMC. Regards -- ^TM - To

Re: Jakarta at the center of the (ASF) universe

2007-11-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, Earlier today I did some graphs on cross-pollination among Apache projects and blogged a summary at [1]. Jakarta always ended up dominating the graphs, so the version on my blog has Jakarta excluded. Why? W/o Jakarta, the diagrams don't

Re: Jakarta at the center of the (ASF) universe

2007-11-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Nov 18, 2007, at 1:47 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Nov 18, 2007 12:07 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, Earlier today I did some graphs on cross-pollination among Apache projects and blogged a summary at [1]. Jakarta

Re: Jakarta at the center of the (ASF) universe

2007-11-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Nov 18, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 01:58:29PM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: But that's the fact - that most of JavaLand sprang from jakarta... Jukka's graph shows committer cross-polination, not *codebase* I don't think that anyone confused

Re: Nightly builds docu?

2007-01-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: On 1/17/07, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how about biting the bullet and installing one of the well established and obviously easier tools: * Cruise Control (http://cruisecontrol.sourceforge.net/) Just downloaded this

Re: A chart/graph Library suite

2007-01-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:55 AM, J.Pietschmann wrote: Senthil S wrote: Expecting a chart/graph making library from Apache that is similar to jfreechart and has enhanced features to create live and interactive graphs. The question is: why do you think there should be another

Re: A chart/graph Library suite

2007-01-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:55 AM, J.Pietschmann wrote: Senthil S wrote: Expecting a chart/graph making library from Apache that is similar to jfreechart and has enhanced features to create live

Re: offtopic - Woodcrest vs. Xeon

2006-10-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Full disclosure, I work for Intel. :) First, are you sure it's a 2GHz Woodcrest? I thought it would be a 3GHz part. Second, is it two Woodcrest (for 4 cores total) or just 1 Woodcrest? Third, woodcrest is an internal code name, and the parts are sold under the Xeon brand, so which Xeon is

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm +1 and -1. I'm +1 as I do think that Velocity as a TLP is not unreasonable. Not necessary, but not unreasonable. I'm -1

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. Aw, c'mon. It's been in discussion on velocity-dev for over a month, and i gave the vote a full week! Not complaining

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
, Nathan Bubna wrote: On 9/22/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. Aw, c'mon. It's been in discussion on velocity-dev for over a month, and i gave the vote a full week! Still, further votes

Re: [RESULT] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
This vote closed sooner than expected. I was traveling and there was no stated deadline. I'm +1 and -1. I'm +1 as I do think that Velocity as a TLP is not unreasonable. Not necessary, but not unreasonable. I'm -1 because I'm worried that this is a new kind of umbrella that's planned. Making

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Would that group auth then include everyone in the jakarta group auth? Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, +1, with the hope that should a group state their intention to become a TLP, the process for granting them a separate auth group is quick and easy. Yoav On 3/27/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] ApacheCon EU 2006

2006-02-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
I thought the Stanly Cup would be over by then what do you need the TVs for again? Some game w/o scoring or contact? ;) Noel J. Bergman wrote: Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: You are surely aware of the fact that this is right on top of the round of 16 and quarter-final games of The

Re: [draft] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
, for all projects. Just imagine if you read about Sun Tomcat or IBM Tomcat or you read that Microsoft controls 45% of Tomcat ;) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
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Re: [draft-2] SD Magazine: request for change

2005-03-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
Jakarta Aw, spell this out. You want this to be as impressive as it can be for this : Henri Yandell Vice President, Apache Jakarta Project The Apache Software Foundation :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Apache Agila : BPM engine

2004-09-30 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
, at 3:41 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote: Sounds interesting. Is a more detailed description availiable somewhere ? Andreas - Original Message - From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:27 PM

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
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Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
would hit quite a few plugins. :-( Somebody could setup mavendev.org (see cocoondev.org) to host (L)GPL pieces. PS Copying PMC because action is required Vadim -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Apache Agila : BPM engine

2004-09-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
to all to come and participate in the project. I've CC-ed [EMAIL PROTECTED], but lets keep the conversation about it here in the incubator for now. I'll be setting up the mail-lists first, and will note when that happens so we can switch . Thanks geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
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Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until the problem is resolved, right now the only way is to use via a dynamic

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:20 PM, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: On Sep 27, 2004, at 4:41 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is an issue important to me as well - I'd like to see this go away, so we can use software w/ the LGPL. But until

Re: FYI: Author tags

2004-09-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
their names if they want to be an @author :-). Or tell Sun to fix their compiler... geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

(Jakarta|Geronimo|Groovy|*)One

2004-06-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Seems like the Thirsty Bear is going to be the place to count on finding people, and seems like wed *and* thursday nights are going to be populated by people from the above... Hope to meet as many as possible. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL

Re: [Fwd: JavaOne Blogger Meetup Next Monday - Confluence]

2004-06-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
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Re: Hi:

2004-06-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Matrimony: Find your partner online. -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: nag email for dom4j project

2004-06-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
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Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
. If someone doesn't like, they'll squawk. :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
-by-users code is 'dead'. There may not be an active community of developers, but if the code is done, it's done. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
or site. Just paying attention to the lists and putting a notice on the Watchdog site to the effect of dormancy would be an excellent start. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
PROTECTED], or - We just leave them dead, take off the subscription links on the Watchdog site, and indicate in our notice of dormancy that questions about watchdog should be submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not just monitor them? geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247

Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
. And yet those are the addresses linked on the watchdog site. So we actually have broken and misleading information there ;) (!) So why don't we just fix them? -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Watchdog] Dead?

2004-06-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Any interest in a Jakarta JavaOne BOF?

2004-05-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
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[NOTICE] HttpClient is requesting to move from commons to Jakarta sub-project

2004-04-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
better next time. If anyone has any comments, speak now or forever hold it... :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe

Re: [NOTICE] HttpClient is requesting to move from commons to Jakarta sub-project

2004-04-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
the right thing. HttpClient voted as a community to ask Jakarta to be a sub-project. We the PMC had to initiate a formal vote, and I made the mistake of doing it on the pmc list... geir Regards, Adrian Sutton. On 15/04/2004, at 2:29 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: All, The HttpClient project

Re: Jakarta embracing the JCP?

2004-03-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
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Re: Jakarta embracing the JCP?

2004-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
there is no real need to assert that every project at the ASF in Java is some sort of standard, and further, doing a TCK is an awful lot of work. If we do have something that is a candidate to be standardized, we can go to the JCP and do it there. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Jakarta embracing the JCP?

2004-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
. The Groovy EG will be run as an OSS project, btw... geir --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m

Re: Jakarta embracing the JCP?

2004-03-19 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
for a different purpose, and what we have works really, really well :) Bear in mind. It's the end of the week, and this is a typical over a table of beer question :) Except I don't have a beer at the moment... geir Hen On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: On Mar 19, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Noel J

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
. And we're doing it not in the press, but where the rubber meets the road - through code and community. This isn't a meme to be planted - just a fact to disseminate. :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
sheepish I wasn't subscribed to community@ until now, so if there's something there that wasn't xposted to general@, let me know... /sheepish More inline : On Mar 18, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Leo Simons wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: the intention is to get involved snip/ really wanted to keep

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
that are mentioned in the article ? That would be a statement, much better than we like open source java, but our software doesn't run on it because it doesn't really matter. Perfect - this is the way that the ASF has always supported open-source java - by actually doing it... geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

[VOTE RESULT] HiveMind as Jakarta sub-project

2004-03-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
The vote has been running a week now (actually longer), the count has been unanimously supportive (there were two +0 votes, all the rest were +1), so HiveMind is now a Jakarta sub-project. Congratulations to Howard and the rest of the HiveMind community. -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: entering jakarta

2004-03-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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[VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project

2004-03-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
this proposal [ ] 0 I abstain from voting for or against this proposal Comments : * If the bit about PMC members having binding votes bothers you, solve the problem by indicating interest in joining the PMC :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project

2004-03-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Mar 3, 2004, at 9:58 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: All Jakarta Community Members : Howard M. Lewis Ship, on behalf of the committers of the HiveMind project in the Jakarta Commons sandbox, has proposed HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project. The proposal was sent to this list, a copy of which

Re: news reorganization

2004-03-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Mar 3, 2004, at 4:24 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 25 Feb 2004, at 13:33, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Feb 24, 2004, at 5:08 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: i've just committed the reorganization i proposed last week. i've moved all the news documents into the news subdirectory

Re: [VOTE] HiveMind as a Jakarta sub-project

2004-03-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Mar 3, 2004, at 6:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [X] +1 I support this proposal [ ] -1 I don't support this proposal [ ] 0 I abstain from voting for or against this proposal Comments : Are releases going to use

Re: questions license for site documents

2004-02-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
should have license notices added? Might as well make it explicit - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247

Re: Wiki Migration

2004-02-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Wiki Migration

2004-02-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Diggory Software Developer Harvard MIT Data Center http://www.hmdc.harvard.edu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Wiki Migration

2004-02-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Wiki Migration

2004-02-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Feb 27, 2004, at 8:13 AM, Scott Eade wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Does this mean we can have ./jakarta ./jakarta/turbine ./jakarta/whatever Where turbine and whatever are distinct and separate, not just parts of /jakarta? Not quite - the wiki urls would all

Re: news reorganization

2004-02-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
). the html versions of the old pages now redirect to the new ones. i'm considering adding some other redirects into the .htaccess file. That's great. Any support for moving the link to Martin's page up, have a separate section above news In memoriam or like? -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: chairmen..

2004-02-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
reach a real decision if our lives depended upon it. :-) I'm counting on it! geir d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [HiveMind] There's that grant!

2004-02-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
or reject it's addition to Jakarta. If you agree, then we should probably do this first, and assuming success, approach Incubator with the project and the wish of Jakarta to host the project once it passes all incubator requirements. Comments? geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

CLAs : Deadline is March 1, 2004 to avoid suspension of commit privs

2004-02-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
an option. The ASF is working to tie up any IP-related loose-ends, and this is an important one - they will suspend commit privs. Thanks geir, writing on behalf of the Jakarta PMC -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Apache License 2.0 came into effect

2004-01-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Extending the PMC ( was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status)

2004-01-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Differences

2004-01-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: New Project Proposal

2004-01-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Just in case you're curious

2004-01-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 29, 2003, at 10:17 AM, Ted Husted wrote: - Original message From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:05:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
software with very little management effort required. d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Indemnification of the PMC

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
for the best interest of the organization. Please work with us on this. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. If you like it, +1 it. SNIP/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Indemnification of the PMC

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. Please work with us on this. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 28, 2003, at 11:26 AM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] What really saddens me is the idea of chasing them out the door. To use an analogy, its like being the parents of a family, where the children, aged from 4 to 40, are all living at home. It strikes

Re: Indemnification of the PMC

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
No worries. I was just truly baffled. geir On Dec 28, 2003, at 11:59 AM, Ted Husted wrote: Mea culpa. I'm trying a new mail client and managed to press the wrong buttons. Sorry for the confusion. -Ted. - Original message From: Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 28, 2003, at 1:42 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: it's good to see projects come out of Jakarta and continue to grow, and it's sad to see them leave, like when leaving a friend after a visit. I understand. And I understand why you view Jakarta that way. Why do you

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, interested committers) , we have things covered. geir --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
of discussions and awareness will be a natural, open thing, not requiring any special schemes or campaigns geir d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 28, 2003, at 4:44 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think a lot of what you say presupposed some sort of onerous additional work that comes from being a part of the Jakarta PMC. I would argue that it's no different - if you are providing oversight

Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
in. geir On Dec 28, 2003, at 7:05 PM, Stephen Colebourne wrote: From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] We need to get that view corrected, because there is *nothing* that states that every member of the PMC is *directly* responsible for ever part of every code, doc, mail list and CVS usage

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Proactively encourage TLP status

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 28, 2003, at 6:05 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: you haven't seen what the EU has been up to :) Talk about over-regulation... LOL :-) OK, so it is a bad analogy. I don't believe that either Costin or I live in the EU. I don't either. I live in Connecticut, USA

Re: Scalability and oversight (Was: Just in case you're curious)

2003-12-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 27, 2003, at 1:39 PM, Santiago Gala wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El lunes, 22 dici, 2003, a las 16:32 Europe/Madrid, Geir Magnusson Jr. escribió: You are free to do what you want. Is this then about personal google hitcount? To the risk of re-starting

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were

2003-12-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
), and move to VOTE. I don't understand why he's going about it this way. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were

2003-12-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were

2003-12-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, adding people one by one lets us produce a healthy, active PMC rather than simply a redefinition of terms. I hope you can see what I'm trying to say, and hoping you want to help out on the 'work intensive' part :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL

Indemnification of the PMC

2003-12-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
to a minimum :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Indemnification of the PMC

2003-12-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Oh, and thanks to Noel for the links... On Dec 23, 2003, at 6:49 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Here is the clearest description I've found. It's by Roy Fielding, ex chair and board member of the ASF, and from all appearances, extremely knowledgeable in these matters. It was posted here

Re: [VOTE] ORO 2.0.8 maintenance release

2003-12-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
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Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 21, 2003, at 8:17 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 07:17:57AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: That's the point of getting as many people as are seriously interested in the subject on the PMC. Then all can participate, and if we discuss something sensitive (as defined

Sign those CLAs!

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Members of the Jakarta Community : With the privilege of committership in the ASF comes the requirement that each committer sign a document called the Committer License Agreement, or CLA. The CLA is a legal agreement between you, the committer, and the ASF in which you state that the

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 22, 2003, at 7:27 AM, Vic Cekvenich wrote: BIG SNIP Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: ... sensitive things should be on the PMC list, and non-sensitive things should be on the general@ list. /end Geir What could be something that is sensteive in an open source community? This is new direction

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 22, 2003, at 8:05 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:38:54 -0500 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: What could be something that is sensteive in an open source community? This is new direction. Gray areas should be well exposed. If you are ashamed of it, don't do open source

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:35:45 -0500 To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. From: Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
]) On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:07:26 -0500 (Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were) Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: This is what I proposed some weeks ago. I think you would serve the community well if you also posted a summary of pros and cons that we had discussed. On Dec 21, 2003, at 6:14 PM, Ted Husted wrote

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 22, 2003, at 7:07 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: On Dec 22, 2003, at 5:58 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Dec 22, 2003, at 6:23 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: Larry, I'm surprised that no one answered this (at least that I saw). From what I understand, ASF believes that those on PMC have

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