On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:20:51PM -0500, Brendan wrote:
> Please, oh Lord, someone fork Gimp.
Actually, I doubt that forking the codebase and starting a new project
will solve the problems we're facing. Starting new projects is always
easier than manage them, as well as facing problems and solving
Brendan writes:
> Please, oh Lord, someone fork Gimp.
I can imagine the scenario: (This is a parody, not a flame)
Someones forks GIMP, sets up a project on (say) SourceForge. He spends
lots of effort on the project's web page. (He is a c00l web designer.)
It has a long list of features that this
Hi,
"Martin Nordholts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> However, I think that when you use GIMP, the taskbar quickly gets
> bloated with lots of images. Would a TDI (Tabbed Document Interface)
> be very tough to implement in GIMP? TDI's have become very popular,
> and afaik lots of people agrees tha
Hi,
Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I wonder how many times it will take to hear the "Perhaps Gimp
> should think about having a Photoshop-mode" before we'll stop
> defending Gimp's interface...
How many times will it take before people realize how much work it
would be to add and support
Hi,
"Alexandre Prokoudine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When you say "get rid of" you mean distribute its menu items over
> menus in each document's window?
Yes.
> And when it's done will toolbox still be an always floating window
> or optionally dockable one?
We will have to evaluate this ba
Hi,
Axel Wernicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Simply distributing menu items sounds like a fairly easy task.
>
> Doing so would assume that there is always at least one document
> window. This is not the case in the gui architecture of GIMP right
> now.
But it is something that could be chang
I apologize criticizing GIMP for not having a Photoshop-like interface.
After a bunch of more insightful replies (mostly Carol's) I realize that
GIMP doesn't strive to be the Photoshop of the OSS communities.
I guess I have been blinded by the numerous GIMP vs Photoshop articles I
have read, a
On Thursday 23 March 2006 03:44, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I wonder how many times it will take to hear the "Perhaps Gimp
> > should think about having a Photoshop-mode" before we'll stop
> > defending Gimp's interface...
>
> How many times will it take before peo
On 3/23/06, Brendan wrote:
> I am primarily a KDE hacker. I already donate piles of time to that effort,
> including writing docs. I use Gimp almost every day, but I hear it
> continuously about the need to have it at least have a PS compatibility mode,
> from graphic designers who would love to u
For people who want layer erffects and photoshop style interface. goto...
http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=9
Can we have a section in Gimp's FAQ about why the Gimp does not directly
copy Photoshop?
- Cam
Brendan wrote:
On Thursday 23 March 2006 03:44, you wrote:
Hi,
Brendan <
On Thursday 23 March 2006 05:46, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On 3/23/06, Brendan wrote:
> > I am primarily a KDE hacker. I already donate piles of time to that
> > effort, including writing docs. I use Gimp almost every day, but I hear
> > it continuously about the need to have it at least have a
> Why do you keep using GIMP? Why don't you help Boudewijn with tracking
> down bugs in Krita 1.5 beta2?
Great way to attract collaborators. I guess many people love the GIMP,
but they don't have the attitude to cooperate in its development; I
could not be this harsh even if I tried.
Alex.
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Brendan wrote:
>> Why do you keep using GIMP? Why don't you help Boudewijn with tracking
>> down bugs in Krita 1.5 beta2?
>
> Because I've used Gimp since pre1.0 and I want to see it succeed?
But it is successful. We won't get anything from copying Photoshop,
except much more work by having to f
On 3/23/06, Alex Fernandez wrote:
> > Why do you keep using GIMP? Why don't you help Boudewijn with tracking
> > down bugs in Krita 1.5 beta2?
>
> Great way to attract collaborators. I guess many people love the GIMP,
> but they don't have the attitude to cooperate in its development; I
> could not
Alex Fernandez wrote:
>> Why do you keep using GIMP? Why don't you help Boudewijn with tracking
>> down bugs in Krita 1.5 beta2?
>
> Great way to attract collaborators. I guess many people love the GIMP,
> but they don't have the attitude to cooperate in its development; I
> could not be this har
> Both questions are valid.
They are not valid. If someone said she was a KDE developer on a
Mozilla list, would you think it right to ask why is she using Firefox
instead of helping out with Konqueror?
> How would you phrase them to be less harsh?
Not making them. It is one thing to be curt and
Alex Fernandez wrote:
>> Both questions are valid.
>
> They are not valid. If someone said she was a KDE developer on a
> Mozilla list, would you think it right to ask why is she using Firefox
> instead of helping out with Konqueror?
If he wants to convert Firefox into Konqueror, I would ask thi
On 3/23/06, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > And when it's done will toolbox still be an always floating window
> > or optionally dockable one?
>
> We will have to evaluate this based on user scenarios. ButI don't
> think we would reject a clean patch that adds this functionality.
Sure :)
> > Simply dist
> > They are not valid. If someone said she was a KDE developer on a
> > Mozilla list, would you think it right to ask why is she using Firefox
> > instead of helping out with Konqueror?
>
> If he wants to convert Firefox into Konqueror, I would ask this, yes.
But he doesn't! He said that the GIMP
Alex Fernandez wrote:
> It is not like you can afford turning away any helping hands.
I think this gets us back on track.
> People are usually proud of belonging to a helpful community,
> and are turned away by impolite answers like this one.
IMO is is still arguable whether Alexandre's quest
On 3/23/06, Alex Fernandez wrote:
> But he doesn't! He said that the GIMP could have a PS compatibility
> mode
For usability's sake it's not good to introduce modes that make same
application look and behave different.
It was countless times announced by developers in this and other
mailing list
I've watched, somewhat intrigued, the discussions about abbreviations,
user interfaces, and whether it's more important to have elegant,
largely unused code, or massively popular code that perhaps isn't
entirely clean.
I'd like to add my perspective as a user.
1) Making the interface "just like p
> > We can improve the GIMP UI and it will improve. But if you really
> > think that the only acceptable user interface is a perfect clone of
> > Photoshop, then why don't you go ahead and start a project that aims
> > to create such a clone?
Weren't people complaining about Gimpshop forking ins
Alex Fernandez wrote:
>I have been reading many different developer mailing lists for
>several years now, and I've seen endless bickering, flaming,
>trolling, baiting... but this aggressive attitude towards potential
>developers and despise for users is unheard of. It is IMHO very
>unprofessio
> > But he doesn't! He said that the GIMP could have a PS compatibility
> > mode
>
> For usability's sake it's not good to introduce modes that make same
> application look and behave different.
I completely agree with this. Probably docking palettes or something
like this would be all that is nee
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 06:59:40PM +0100, Alex Fernandez wrote:
> Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>
> > It was countless times announced by developers in this and other
> > mailing lists that they do wish to improve GUI of GIMP, but that they
> > don't want to clone PS. Sven wrote a special posting ab
there are rumors lately that tor will be working on getting the pspi
filter thingies working on linux. when they become available will that
be announced on this list?
i am curious to no end about these; my idea is that even i will be able
to write a pure gimp equivelent of them. they simply have
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 07:07:19AM -0800, Simon Roberts wrote:
> I've watched, somewhat intrigued, the discussions about abbreviations,
> user interfaces, and whether it's more important to have elegant,
> largely unused code, or massively popular code that perhaps isn't
> entirely clean.
>
> I'd
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 04:22:19PM +0100, PLinnell wrote:
>
> In defense of the GIMP team, they are (unfairly IMO) criticized by
> those who are not attuned to the actual state of development and
> their stated goals.
>
> Call it support fatigue if you will, but these kinds of issues have
> b
Carol Spears writes:
> there are rumors lately that tor will be working on getting the pspi
> filter thingies working on linux. when they become available will that
> be announced on this list?
Sure; Today I built pspi on SUSE 10 and Ubuntu. Downloadable from
http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win3
Almost a 1 1/2 months ago I uploaded the updated .po files for
Macedonian translation here
http://l10n-status.gnome.org/HEAD/mk/extras/index.html
and after that, they appeared as yellow (empty strings). I thought it is
temporally error in the script, but this is going on too long now. I
don't k
On Tue, 2006-02-14 at 18:56 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote:
> Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris writes:
> > Unless, of course, the filename is in the ~/.gimp-2.x dir and you try
> > to getthere by start typing "."
> >
> > I am serious about this: I _lost_ almost 20 minutes in a 3 hour
> > workshop trying to
Hello again!
The first step for me to be able to contribute to GIMP is making it build.
I have downloaded and compiled several libraries, but I am having problem
with glib.
I downloaded the 2.10.1 glib tarball from gnome servers, and ran
./configure, make, make install succesfully (well at l
On 3/24/06, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> The first step for me to be able to contribute to GIMP is making it build.
>
> I have downloaded and compiled several libraries, but I am having problem
> with glib.
>
> I downloaded the 2.10.1 glib tarball from gnome servers, and ran
> ./configure, make, make
Looking at the menu we have.
1) Plugin/script development tools
2) Scripts that create new images.
3) The Module and Unit Editors
Wouldn't it make sense to refactor 2) into the file menu - either as a "new
from script", or into the new file dialog - as a special type of template
even.
3) shoul
But how are these filters licensed by Adobe ?
Cedric
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cedric GEMY writes:
> But how are these filters licensed by Adobe ?
What "these" filters? As I said, pspi doesn't even work with Adobe's
filters (those that are bundled with Photoshop). Even if it did, I
don't know whether your Photoshop license would allow them to be used
with other plug-in host
Oops, forgot to tell.
I try to compile the latest tarball: GIMP 2.3.7.
Yep, I first and foremost looked for precompiled libs in Mandrivas packet
manager, but I didn't find some of them, though lots of libs are directly
installed from there.
From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 3/23/06, Simon Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1) Making the interface "just like photoshop" seems like a foolserrand. I've always viewed the "arguement" analogous to English versus Spanish (or pick your favorite language). Photoshop may be like English (lots of people use it), but why would
Hi Martin,
On Mar 23 at 11:14:57, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> The strange thing is that when I run glib-config --version, it spits out
> 1.-something. That's weird isn't it?
What it's weird is that you got glib-config in glib-2.10.1. glib-config
is only in old versions, recent versions use pkg-con
On Friday 24 March 2006 01:00, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> Oops, forgot to tell.
>
> I try to compile the latest tarball: GIMP 2.3.7.
>
> Yep, I first and foremost looked for precompiled libs in Mandrivas packet
> manager, but I didn't find some of them, though lots of libs are directly
> installed f
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