On 4 Feb, Raphael Quinet wrote:
> I wouldn't be too sure about that. On a system that I was previously
> administering (students' network at the university), I have seen some
> users that were using /var/tmp or /tmp to store their applications
> while they were logged in, and deleted the stuff
On 4 Feb, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> I'm constantly finding myself looking for tools. I know that they are
> there, but I have to stop and look closer at almost every single tool.
> There are simply too many tools (some of them could well be combined),
> and the icons look very much the same
Hiho!
I think it's time to remove that useless pencil before the release
of the magic version 1.2. Did anyone use it in the last time?
It contains no functionality that paintbrush doesn't have except of
hard edges (anyone needing that "feature"?)...
Anyway: This is up for discussion on this
Hi developers,
At the moment we have got 2 Pathtools in GIMP. One which is called
Bezierselect in the Toolbox but has a Path dialog
(in the Layers/Channels dialog???) and another one called Path tool.
The latter works a lot nicer IMHO but I haven't managed yet to
transform a path into a sel
On 4 Feb, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
>>What does Photoshop do?
> What does that matter?
Photoshop is the most used graphicstool out there and it makes sense
to have a closer look on their behaviour especially in the UI sector.
Anyway, even if books do now say that Fill fills with the back
Hi developers,
Kelly did a try to clean up this issue with the hwrapbox which is
currently used in the toolbox. Unfortunately this hasn't helped a lot
and since other approaches for the toolbox after 1.2 rise up it seems
sensible to revert to the old behaviour (which is fine, what should
th
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Pathtool?
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:03:44 +0100 (CET)
> Which one should we keep? Or better: should we
> merge it into one Tool which works nicely AND has a support dialog?
I hope them to be merged into one tool with support dialog.
Anyway, the dialog window tit
> Kelly did a try to clean up this issue with the hwrapbox which is
> currently used in the toolbox. Unfortunately this hasn't helped a lot
> and since other approaches for the toolbox after 1.2 rise up it seems
> sensible to revert to the old behaviour (which is fine, what should
> the use o
> I think it's time to remove that useless pencil before the release
> of the magic version 1.2. Did anyone use it in the last time?
> It contains no functionality that paintbrush doesn't have except of
> hard edges (anyone needing that "feature"?)...
It is a very important feature, believe m
Hi,
Daniel, please, do you follow the discussions on this list?
> At the moment we have got 2 Pathtools in GIMP. One which is called
> Bezierselect in the Toolbox but has a Path dialog
> (in the Layers/Channels dialog???) and another one called Path tool.
>
> The latter works a lot nicer IM
On 5 Feb, FUJITA Yuji wrote:
>> Which one should we keep? Or better: should we
>> merge it into one Tool which works nicely AND has a support dialog?
> I hope them to be merged into one tool with support dialog.
> Anyway, the dialog window title should be something like
> "Layers, Channels
On 5 Feb, Sven Neumann wrote:
> OK, I'll repeat it once again: The new tool was an approach to design
> better path tool taken by Simon Budig.
Well, I talked with Simon about it.
> The goal was to exchange the
> user interface of the BezierSelect tool when it becomes useable. Simon
> didn't f
On 5 Feb, Sven Neumann wrote:
> It is a very important feature, believe me!
It's your right to consider it useful, I don't and won't believe you...
> But the pencil can easily
> be merged with the Paintbrush by adding a "Hard Edges" option.
Yes, if you appreciate. But the makes the eraser r
On 5 Feb, Sven Neumann wrote:
> It works much better now (/me thanks Kelly).
"much" is a bit too much... :)
It definitely works better but the current behaviour isn't acceptable
for the release anyway
> Well, if you don't see the advantages of a more configurable toolbox
> layout, I ca
Hi,
>I'm all for removing the Path Tool, the Xinput Airbrush and and merging
>Pencil and Paintbrush. If I counted correctly this would reduce the
>number of tools to 24. This is a perfect number of tools since
>24 % [2|3|4] == 0 which means we always get a nicely layed out toolbox.
core and pl
Hi,
> It works, it may not have all the features that Simon desired but it's
> nice nevertheless...
Do you have any idea how much work is needed to integrate it with the
Paths dialog? A number of new bugs would certainly be introduced by doing
so. That's why I say: It's too late!
> I'd like
On 5 Feb, SHIRASAKI Yasuhiro wrote:
>> I'm all for removing the Path Tool, the Xinput Airbrush and and
>> merging Pencil and Paintbrush. If I counted correctly this would
>> reduce the number of tools to 24. This is a perfect number of tools
>> since 24 % [2|3|4] == 0 which means we always get a
On 5 Feb, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Do you have any idea how much work is needed to integrate it with the
> Paths dialog?
No, not yet, but I'll have a closer look on this.
> A number of new bugs would certainly be introduced by
> doing so. That's why I say: It's too late!
Every line of code in
> >I'm all for removing the Path Tool, the Xinput Airbrush and and merging
> >Pencil and Paintbrush. If I counted correctly this would reduce the
> >number of tools to 24. This is a perfect number of tools since
> >24 % [2|3|4] == 0 which means we always get a nicely layed out toolbox.
>
> core
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 01:46:14PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Do you have any idea how much work is needed to integrate it with the
> Paths dialog? A number of new bugs would certainly be introduced by doing
> so. That's why I say: It's too late!
Agreed. Broken stuff with no-one working on it
On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 10:01:04AM +0100, Raphael Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree with you, Mark. Knowing the difference between tools and
> plug-ins is rather important, but is not easy for the beginner who has
> several dialogs open and is not familiar with all of them. If the
The
On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 02:59:11PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > "Repeat Last" will repeat the last plug-in. Since menus do not provide
> > feedback of wether an entry is a plug-in or "built-in" (I think it
> > would even be wrong to do so), you have to know this, which is not
> > easy for
On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Garry R. Osgood wrote:
> Tom Rathborne wrote:
>
> > I just noticed this new CVS entry:
> >
> > Fri Feb 4 18:27:16 CET 2000 Stanislav Brabec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > * app/global_edit.c: edit_fill with foreground, not background.
>
> >
>
> Indeed, some of the
Sven Neumann wrote:
>
>
> I'm all for removing the Path Tool,
Agreed: In my opinion, there is just too much work to integrate
for March 31 (56 days away and counting).
> the Xinput Airbrush
Agreed: I've just got Wacom Intuos working with GTK+/GDK on SGI,
and on this platform using the Xinput
I found also that app/gimpui.c and app/gimpunit.c contain partially the
same contents as libgimp/gimpui.c and libgimp/gimpunit.c
When I save pbm in GIMP it is not saved as pbm but as pnm.
Martin
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 12:53:56AM +0100, "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At home 3 of 3 read text better than understand icons. Dunno way, but that
> is the fact (rare family?).
No. Text has much higher information bandwidth than icons for "skilled
people". T
On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 01:38:32AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
>plug-ins/maze/*
>
> is being written back. This (unfortunately!!) means that changes done to
> these files in the gimp cvs will get overwritten. I've not found a better
> way to synchronize two cvs trees better (maybe CVSup would
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:38:32 +0100, Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Ok. I've just enabled automatic mirroring from the sourceforge cvs
>back to the gimp cvs.
FWIW, I think this should be used sparingly. It is my belief that
we should try to move plugins into a separate package from the
I'd really like to see the setting for default brush reappear. So
much so that I'd do it myself.
Hows this fit with the freeze? I hate to violate the freeze, esp
since its been getting better. But I'm SO SICK OF THAT CALIGRAPHIC
BRUSH (10x10)! Comments?
Seth
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
~/.sig:
In ChangeLog :
>> Fri Jan 28 01:16:35 CET 2000 Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>* PLUGIN_CVS: updated to give Kevin Turner write access to
>>the maze plug-in (therefore, the maze plug-in is no longer
>>managable within the gnome cvs server. If you have any
>>c
Hi,
> Ok. I've just enabled automatic mirroring from the sourceforge cvs back
> to the gimp cvs.
>
> The file gimp/PLUGIN_CVS in the cvs tree controls which paths are mirrored
> and which are not. If anything goes havoc just delete that file and the
> script will stop doing anything.
>
> At the
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:40:32 -0500, Zach Beane - MINT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Count this as a cry out against it. I suggest waiting for a logical
>pause in development, such as the release of GIMP 1.2, to begin
>making these not-insubstantial changes in source management.
My position is sourc
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:29:48 +0100, Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>As it is now there is the slight danger that the "self-management"
>can cause _more_ work for the maintainers. If Sven has to od a
>one-line change in every plug-in he would be force to use two
>different cvs servers.
We
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Zach Beane - MINT wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 05:29:48PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > However, since the masses haven't cried out yet, I guess we can try and
> > see how it works in practise.
>
> Count this as a cry out against it. I suggest waiting for
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 11:23:48PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> Just to throw in my opinion: gimp is _NOT part of gnome, other than in a
> technical way, and I personally think it is important that it stays so.
>From the user's perspective The Gimp is part of GNOME. For 1.2 this
won't be really t
>If you need to tell USERS something important then it should not be
>in these strings, you should rather write a paragraph for the GUM.
>
> > (B) don't mark the strings for translation, not in the core, neither in
> > the plug-ins
It depends on what is meant by having something important to
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2000 13:19:03 +0100, Torsten Rahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>said:
>
> GNOME claims GIMP as part of GNOME because GIMP is better than any of
> the existing GNOME apps. They're trying to piggyback on our success.
> Personally, I think thi
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Raphael Quinet wrote:
> My personal opinion: I'm all for using some of the GNOME things
> (especially gnome-font, gtk-pixbuf and gnome-canvas) as long as they
> do not have any dependencies on ORBit or other stuff that is difficult
> to compile on non-Linux systems or stuff t
On Tue, 01 Feb 2000, Kelly Lynn Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> GNOME claims GIMP as part of GNOME because GIMP is better than any of
> the existing GNOME apps. They're trying to piggyback on our success.
> Personally, I think this is odious, but hey...
This statement is ridiculous. They ar
On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 07:07:37PM -0500, Zach Beane - MINT wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 06:59:57PM -0500, Tom Rathborne wrote:
> > I just noticed this new CVS entry:
> >
> > Fri Feb 4 18:27:16 CET 2000 Stanislav Brabec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > * app/global_edit.c: edit_fill wi
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:45:16 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> I think it's time to remove that useless pencil before the release
>of the magic version 1.2. Did anyone use it in the last time? It
>contains no functionality that paintbrush doesn't have except of hard
>edges (anyone needing th
My vote is for the merge of pencil and paintbrush. I don't see that
having a hard-edged paintbrush is really worthy of its own icon, though
it will need an option added in paintbrush. I don't know of anything
that utilizes pencil in PDB at this point, but maybe I'm mistaken? I
doubt removing
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:36:52 -0800
From: Nick Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 11:23:48PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> Just to throw in my opinion: gimp is _NOT part of gnome, other than in a
> technical way, and I personally think it is important that it stays so
Thus spoke Shawn T . Amundson
> Just wanted to let you guys know that I wrote up a story
> on advogato.com you guys might want to read for a good
> laugh:
>
> http://advogato.com/
> 'Andover.Net and the deep pockets of Wilber the GIMP?'
Interesting story, and not really suprising. I heard som
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:00:19 -0700 (MST), "Michael J. Hammel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>The last comment I saw under this story said that a $2K award was
>given to "Wilbur the Gimp". Since Gimp has no non-profit (or for
>profit) organization, who got that money? Just curious.
It goes to Yosh,
On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 12:44:36AM -0500, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:00:19 -0700 (MST), "Michael J. Hammel"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >The last comment I saw under this story said that a $2K award was
> >given to "Wilbur the Gimp". Since Gimp has no non-profit (or for
Here a list of buggy plugins in GIMP-1.1.16:
tileable blur plugin:
the status bar is appearing in an extra window
--
color exchange / color mapping plugins:
color selection: you can choose a color but black is taken instead
-
On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 08:53:50PM -0500, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:07:37 -0500, Zach Beane - MINT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >>Fill (by default Ctrl-.) has filled using the background colour in
> >>the GIMP for as long as I can remember. I don't think it's a bug
> >[sni
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 11:45:16AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hiho!
>
> I think it's time to remove that useless pencil before the release
> of the magic version 1.2. Did anyone use it in the last time?
> It contains no functionality that paintbrush doesn't have except of
> hard edges
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 01:09:13PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > I think it's time to remove that useless pencil before the release
> > of the magic version 1.2. Did anyone use it in the last time?
> > It contains no functionality that paintbrush doesn't have except of
> > hard edges (anyone
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 01:28:43PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > There's no
> > need to discuss which path tool should make it into 1.2, since there
> > is only one that is working.
>
> It works, it may not have all the features that Simon desired but it's
> nice nevertheless...
It does
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 11:45:16AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hiho!
> >
> > I think it's time to remove that useless pencil before the release
> > of the magic version 1.2. Did anyone use it in the last time?
> > It contains no function
You wrote on Fre, 04 Feb 2000:
>On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 12:48:50AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Since the menus were reorganized I am constantly guessing wether
>> > "Repeat Last" will repeat my last action, the one before or not work
>> > at all, since you can't tell from the menu anymore
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 07:04:44PM +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (unless we have alpha) and Fill should use foreground. but like I said
> earlier, I dont really have an usage pattern on this feature so I cannot say
> much..
My usage pattern is
Fill => Undo => Swap Colours
I can find no evidence that this is actually used anywhere in the
GIMP. Anybody know what it's for and whether it even works?
Kelly
Thus spoke Zach Beane - MINT
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 05:29:48PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > However, since the masses haven't cried out yet, I guess we can try and
> > see how it works in practise.
>
> Count this as a cry out against it. I suggest waiting for a logical pause in
Thus spoke Kelly Lynn Martin
> My position is sourceforge should be used at this time only for
> plug-ins which are not already in the source tree. Such plug-ins will
> not be a part of 1.2 anyway because 1.2 is frozen at this time. When
> 1.3 development begins, we can decide what to do with th
Michael J. Hammel said...
|
|I'm curious why any new plug-ins should be added to the core *at all*.
|Gimp's distribution is fairly large as it is. Isn't it getting time to
|limit additional plug-ins to the core distribution to plug-ins which are
|considered "vital" in some way? Even some estoric
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:33:38 -0800
From: "Michael J. Hammel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm curious why any new plug-ins should be added to the core *at all*.
Gimp's distribution is fairly large as it is. Isn't it getting time to
limit additional plug-ins to the core distribution to pl
Michael J. Hammel spontaneously blurts out:
>
> I'm curious why any new plug-ins should be added to the core *at all*.
> Gimp's distribution is fairly large as it is. Isn't it getting time to
> limit additional plug-ins to the core distribution to plug-ins which are
> considered "vital" in some
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:33:38 -0800, "Michael J. Hammel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
>I'm curious why any new plug-ins should be added to the core *at
>all*. Gimp's distribution is fairly large as it is. Isn't it
>getting time to limit additional plug-ins to the core distribution to
>plug-ins whic
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 12:22:49PM -0800, Seth Burgess wrote:
> I'd really like to see the setting for default brush reappear. So
> much so that I'd do it myself.
>
> Hows this fit with the freeze? I hate to violate the freeze, esp
> since its been getting better. But I'm SO SICK OF THAT CAL
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 07:13:00PM +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in my previous mail on this thread, I use the paintbrush as a "fine tuning"
> tool together with the "real" tool I am drawing with. And if it is the
> paintbrush, then there is no way to toggle fast between tho
I'm just trying to catch up on the traffic here since returning from
LinuxWorld. There has been lots of very interesting discussion of late,
but I wasn't sure if I understood what the consensus was for each thread.
Here is my interpretation so far. Let me know if I got it wrong.
Prior to 1.2:
1
On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 09:07:06PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 07:13:00PM +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > in my previous mail on this thread, I use the paintbrush as a "fine tuning"
> > tool together with the "real" tool I am drawing with. And if it
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