Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp's rendering speeds

2011-02-02 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 02/02/2011 02:32 PM, Jeremy Nell wrote:
 Will the next release of Gimp be a bit quicker?

I'm afraid not; the next release of GIMP, GIMP 2.8, will not be quicker 
in this regard.

The release after that, GIMP 3.0, will focus on running on GTK 3.0 and 
bringing high bit depths into the picture.

3.2 will focus on non-destructiveness

Maybe in 3.4 we'll have time to solve this in a proper way.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Deleting multiple layers

2011-01-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/19/2011 12:10 PM, Ofnuts wrote:
 On 01/19/2011 09:19 AM, Jeremy Nell wrote:
 No, you can't select multiple layers.  I'm suggesting that there
 should be a way to do so (and delete them).

 The ability to select multiple layers opens a rather large can of worms.
 What happens when you paint with several layers selected?

One way to deal with it would be to have two concepts, active layers and 
selected layers. There is only one active layer, but there can be 
several selected layers. When you paint, the active layer is affected. 
When you free-transform, the selected layers are affected. Whenever 
there is only one selected layer, that layer is also the active layer.


On 01/19/2011 12:17 PM, Jeremy Nell wrote:
The ability to select multiple layers opens a rather large can of
  worms. What happens when you paint with several layers selected?
 
  Then Gimp simply doesn't allow you to paint (because it doesn't know
  which layer you want). Simple.

Not painting at all is not a very good solution if the user clearly acts 
like he wants to paint. It's better to make a best-guess; if it was 
wrong, well then the user have to be more specific. At least we tried 
our best.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 16 bit Handling

2010-11-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 11/04/2010 02:53 AM, TomBrooklyn wrote:
 When will GIMP be able to handle 16 bit (per channel) photo files?

I'd guess a nightly build will have this capability in 1 - 2.5 years

But no one knows, because we have not scheduled this work yet, we only 
know it is important and that we want it in the next stable release 
after 2.8

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Re: [Gimp-user] Separate+ 0.5.8-beta1

2010-08-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/28/2010 11:28 AM, Yoshinori Yamakawa wrote:
 Hi,

 Beta1 of Separate+ 0.5.8 is available.

Hi Yamakawa-san

What do you think about getting this plug-in into upstream GIMP for GIMP 
2.8? Thanks in advance for your comment on this.

Best wishes,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Free select tool in 2.6

2010-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/19/2010 10:48 AM, Jeffery Small wrote:

 I recently upgraded from Gimp 2.4.3 to 2.6.8.  The free select tool has
 changed to allow polygon edges and this also now requires that the stop
 point be extremely close to the start point in order to close the area when
 dragging the cursor.  Is there a way to re-establish the old behavior so
 that holding down the left mouse button and dragging the cursor to define a
 region will automatically close when the mouse button is released?  There is
 no mention of this in the manual.

Hi

There currently is no way to do this, but note that you can press Return 
to close a pending free selection, so you can replace

   1. Drag and release

with

   1. Drag and release
   2. Press Return

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Re: [Gimp-user] 16-bit - why the long delay?

2010-07-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/05/2010 12:23 PM, Claus Cyrny wrote:
 Hi all,

 after this has first been announced, I think, in 2002 (!),
 I wonder why 16-bit/channel has still not been implemented.
 Two years ago (or something like this) I read that 16-bit
 would be available in 2.6, but now someone stated that it
 would probably take a few more years (!). IMHO, 16-bit
 should be right on top of the list of priorities, now that GEGL
 has been implemented--at least it's definitely more important
 than, say yet another new icon set for Gimp. And anti-aliasing
 could also be improved. Programs such as Krita (I'm using
 Ubuntu) have much better anti-aliasing. I really enjoy working with
 the Gimp (currently 2.6.8), but especially 16-bit is really long overdue.

We know it's long overdue and we know it sucks that we don't have higher 
bit depths yet. If we would have done higher bit depths before the 2.6 
and 2.8 UI changes however, we would have received a lot of criticism 
for a useless UI instead.

As soon as 2.8 is out, we are ready to introduce support for higher bit 
depths. GIMP 2.8 is currently scheduled for arrival late 2010. Maybe 
there will be a GIMP 2.9 development snapshot with support for higher 
bit depths half a year or so after that.

The best way you can help with getting high bit depths support in GIMP 
is help us get 2.8 out, which basically boils down to helping us fix 
remaining bugs on the 2.8 milestone:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?product=GIMPbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDtarget_milestone=2.8

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Re: [Gimp-user] Biggest Frustration

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 06/21/2010 05:16 PM, Steve VanSlyck wrote:
 My biggest frustration with GIMP is the complete lack of a general object
 selection tool. Not having an arrow tool is counter intuitive to the
 way we've been taught since the Faraday saw the first semiconductor claw
 its way into visibility in 1833.

There is a specification for such a tool:
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Transformation_tool_specification

Someone just needs to write the code. We won't have time to do that for 
2.8 though.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 06/21/2010 05:31 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
 Is it still being worked on?  If so, is there any word
 on availability?

 When it's ready is the best you can get :)

There is more to say.

Right now the top priority is to get GIMP 2.8 released. The current goal 
is late 2010. GIMP 2.8 does not have support for high bit depths.

Once GIMP 2.8 is out, we will start phasing out the legacy 
8-bit-per-channel code and replace it with GEGL. In other words, we will 
start for real to introduce support for high bit depths in GIMP. There 
is no schedule of this work, so a date cannot be given. It is reasonable 
though to expect this work to go on for say 2-4 years.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How is 16 bit GIMP doing?

2010-06-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 06/21/2010 08:00 PM, John Culleton wrote:
 And what is the priority/schedule for CMYK?

We know we need CMYK sooner or later, but higher bit depths and 
non-destructiveness is much more important. So first good support for 
the latter, then we can begin looking into proper support for the former 
IMO. Maybe in a stable version 6-8 years from now with the current pace 
of development.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

2010-06-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 06/20/2010 06:45 PM, Sven Neumann wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 03:29 +0200, Branko Vukelic wrote:
 Better way would be to do what most text editors do. Create a backup
 of the old file (remember those files that end with a tilde '~'?)
 before overwriting it with the new save. It should be a trivial fix.

 It is actually a very difficult fix. There are hundreds of save plug-ins
 and all would have to be fixed. Also GIMP plug-ins may save using a
 helper plug-in that transparently enables saving to remote locations. It
 is definitely not trivial to fix this.

Doing it for XCF would be enough, especially with the new Save and 
Export separation we do.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!

2010-05-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 05/23/2010 03:55 PM, Anna wrote:
 Right after that I turned off my computer

Just to make sure: Did you turn it off by cutting power, or did you turn 
it off in a proper/nice way?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Fw: Re: toolbox

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 04/29/2010 04:00 AM, Steve VanSlyck wrote:
 Is there no way to dock these darn things onto the main drawing window?
 (When I minimize an app I want the whole think gone, not just the
 subwindow I'm working on.

Not in 2.6, but in 2.8 there will be a single-window mode.

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Re: [Gimp-user] toolbox

2010-04-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 04/29/2010 12:05 AM, Thomas Hart wrote:
 Using  Windows 7 with Gimp 2.6.8 I can't hide the toolbox. If I click on
 the x-box the entire app closes. I can't see anything in Preferences. ???
 Thomas J. Hart

That's how GIMP 2.6 works. In GIMP 2.8 you will be able to close the 
toolbox.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Open a file r/o

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 03/24/2010 11:03 PM, Lennart Svensson wrote:


 Sven Neumann wrote, On 2010-03-23 21:38:
 On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 14:19 +0100, Lennart Svensson wrote:
 When you start gimp from the promptline you got the Application Options:
 -a, --as-newOpen images as new

 Why is this not available (as a button) when you open a file inside gimp ?

 It is considered useful for applications that want to send images to
 GIMP by means of opening them from a temporary location. We haven't seen
 any potential use for it in the user interface so far.


 Sven




 This button should inhibit the possibility to save the file during editing and
 destroy the original file. Same as the command line option -a.

There are plenty of other strategies you can use
* Only open copies of files
* Version control your files
* When you discover you overwrote a file, if possible, undo to the 
initial state of the image and resave

Having a button as you propose is not an elegant solution to the problem 
you are trying to solve.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to keep toolbox and Layer, channel box docked to the main window? Minimize-all-at-one?

2010-03-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 03/23/2010 12:58 PM, BenXS wrote:

 Ok, thank you.

 When will  be v2.8 (=with single-window-mode) roughly released?

Current estimate is Decemeber 2010

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to switch menu language?

2010-03-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 03/20/2010 11:00 PM, BenXS wrote:
 Ok, currently english is my main menu language of Gimp.
 But occasionally other people use my computer and I want to switch to
 another
 language (e.g. german or russian).

 Where exactly (!) can I switch the menu language?

 I found no entry in preferences?


For 2.6, follow these instructions:
http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-fire-up.html#gimp-concepts-running-language

GIMP from git master have a setting in Preferences for this.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to keep toolbox and Layer, channel box docked to the main window? Minimize-all-at-one?

2010-03-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 03/20/2010 11:06 PM, BenXS wrote:

 Currently when I move the main window of Gimp (under WinXP) then the two
 small windows at the side Toolbox and Layer,Channel... stay at their
 places on the desktop.
 Is there a way to define them as docked. In other words: Whenever the main
 window is moved they should be moved as well.

No, not in GIMP 2.6, but with the single-window mode in 2.8 you'll be 
able to get that behaviour.

 Similarly when I minimize the main window the sub-windows remain visible.
 Is there a settings which (automatically) minimizes all windows when I
 minimize the main window?

There is code in GIMP that does that, but it doesn't work 100% always on 
Windows unfortunately.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Nordholts
2010/3/11  bossyph...@netscape.com:
 When I try to save a picture I have worked on it always tells me I'm not 
 authorized to save it.  How do I become authorized so I can save my edited 
 photos?

Can it be that you are running GIMP from a read-only device, and it
defaults to save in a folder on the read-only device? What if you try
to save in your home folder? Where exactly did you get GIMP from?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Enlarge Canvas: Is there a way to do it by dragging? Could/Should there be?

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 03/11/2010 04:57 PM, Jay Smith wrote:
 It just occurred to me that it would be really handy to be able to
 enlarge the _canvas_ by dragging.

Hi

This is the wrong forum, you should be on the gimp-developer mailing list.

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Re: [Gimp-user] ?? Status of remembering Layers setting for Canvas Resizing -- in most recent version

2010-03-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
2010/3/10 yahvuu yah...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 Jay Smith wrote:
 I believe that this setting should be remembered a) during the session
 of editing an image; b) during all sessions editing all images; and c)
 between sessions of shutting down and restarting Gimp.

 It seems to me that there are quite a few of these situations in Gimp.

 Another point of view:

 Each of these dialog options points at a potential interaction problem. If the
 dialog remembers an option, the user also has to remember that option.
 In general, this amounts to additional cognitive burden to keep the mental 
 model
 in sync with the application state.

Hi yahvuu

Hmm I don't understand, how would there be additional cognitive burden
on users if a dialog remembers a setting across invocations? Or do you
mean that the setting itself is additional cognitive burden? If so,
then I agree. The more options we can get rid of, the better.

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Re: [Gimp-user] ?? Status of remembering Layers setting for Canvas Resizing -- in most recent version

2010-03-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 03/09/2010 11:15 PM, Jay Smith wrote:
 It seems to me to be more useful to remember what the user does rather
 than some setting that the user never uses.

Hi,

Absolutely. This isn't controversial. Now all that is missing is a patch.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes too much

2010-01-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
BGP wrote:
 No other program on my machine locks up except gimp.
 How can I fix this?

Hi!

By figuring out the step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce the 
problems and then file bug reports to bugs.gimp.org so the problems can 
be fixed

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes too much

2010-01-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
BGP wrote:
 Gimp locks up too often on my computer.  It just stops working and the 
 screen turns gray and then the entire computer stops responding to 
 commands so I can only shut down by pushing the power button and rebooting.
 
 No other program on my machine locks up except gimp.
 
 
 How can I fix this?

Actually, it sounds like you're out of RAM and your computer starts 
using the disk. This happens if you work with large images and/or have a 
small amount of RAM. You might want to tweak the tile cache:
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-setup-tile-cache.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes too much

2010-01-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
BGP wrote:
 1G of ram is too small for a 4k file?

No, so in that case, figure out a step-by-step instruction on how to 
reproduce the problem you are having.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Cut out?

2010-01-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
BGP wrote:
 I have an image that I want to cut a part out of to use as a separate 
 image.  The shape of the area I want to cut out and use is irregular.  
 How can I cleanly cut out that part and copy it as a seperate image?

Select the part you want to copy, then Edit - Copy, then Edit - Paste 
as - New Image

To select irregular shapes, try the Free Select Tool and the quick mask.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
doug wrote:
 Most people thinks having two different menubars in one application is
 insane. The small amount of people that thinks it is a good idea will
 have to maintain code for that themselves, sorry.

 In a few months' time anybody wanting to look up XXX or YYY in the 
 archives is going to miss them if they're all mixed up under this one 
 thread GIMP vs Photoshop.

And they will probably also look in the gimp-developer archives rather 
than the gimp-user archives, so we should move any further discussion there.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Ken Warner wrote:
 Well, I've experienced the same.  When I close the tool window, GIMP
 exits.  Really a pisser

This is fixed in git master and will be further polished for GIMP 2.8

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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Ken Warner wrote:
 Yeah, I hate that too.  What's the point of having a floating window
 if you can never bring it to the top of the stack?

Edit - Preferences - Window Management, change the toolbox and dock 
hints to 'Normal window'

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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Ken Warner wrote:
 Thanks... Much better.  Why didn't I think of that?  Maybe because
 I didn't think there was three different kinds of windows.  Do we
 really need three different kinds of windows?  I'm just asking

Since we removed the menu from the toolbox for GIMP 2.6, we don't. In 
git master this is fixed, the setting is not separate for the toolbox 
and other docks, it's a single setting shared for both the dock window 
with the toolbox and the other dock windows.

But I think we need to keep the setting we have. Some people prefer it 
the way you do, they want their image windows to hide docks, while 
others don't want the docks to be hidden.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Programmer In Training wrote:
 Then the old behavior from 2.4 should be made optional, or at least a
 reasonable facsimile.

Most people thinks having two different menubars in one application is 
insane. The small amount of people that thinks it is a good idea will 
have to maintain code for that themselves, sorry.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop

2010-01-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
Michael J. Hammel wrote:
 For example, they've
 responded to requests for a single window mode from the Windows user
 community by adding it to development for 2.8.  We Linux users don't
 need this so the developers are making this configurable.

This is a common misconception. The single-window mode is just as much 
for Linux users as it is for Windows users. It is in many ways my own 
itch I am scratching: I run Linux but hate to manage windows and/or 
workspaces, and single-window mode will fix this for me.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp copy/pasted layer has selection around it

2010-01-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
gordon13 wrote:
 Aaah right! Thanks for that. Its really anoying, I dont know why we need
 boundaries like that..

We don't, which is why we will make layer boundaries automatically 
managed when we migrate to GEGL.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Is this a bug? Setting image w/corrupted icc profile to sRGB; plugin dies

2009-12-18 Thread Martin Nordholts
Jay Smith wrote:
 I was attempting to contribute and share and experience and information.
 
 I infer from your response that I have been instructed to think twice
 before trying to get involved again.

Hi,

You seem like a nice guy with a healthy attitude, so it would be a shame 
if this would end up as your only contribution to GIMP. I encourage you 
to file a bug report so that it is possible to reproduce the problematic 
behavior and so that we can track progress in dealing with this.

The address http://bugs.gimp.org/ redirects to GIMP's bugzill, which 
right now seems to be done.

Thanks and regards,
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Crashing

2009-12-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Flyer0101 wrote:
 Hi, this is my first post, anyway everytime i open gimp it crashes or does not
 respond i have even tried older versions of gimp my OS is Windows 7 64 - bit
 and specs are 4GB RAM 2.9 Duel Core so i don't no why it isn't working.

One common cause of this is that you have large amounts of data, try 
starting with an empty GIMP2_DIRECTORY.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Users - getting colors to match.

2009-11-18 Thread Martin Nordholts
D Dziedzic wrote:
 Hi:
 
 Color management is device specific through ICC profiles.

Hi Dziedzic

I expressed myself a bit clumsy. What I tried to say is that the 
_concepts_ of color management is not GIMP specific. Before one learns 
how color management works in a particular program, one needs to 
understand color management in general. If tessanne already know about 
color management in general and were only after information on how to 
perform color management in GIMP, I apologize.

 So the question is:  Will the Gimp get serious about color management as it 
 expands into the 16 bit arena or miss the serious color management boat all 
 together?

Proper color management is essential to the high-end photo manipulation 
program that GIMP wants to be, so yes, GIMP takes color management 
seriously. We are not completely there yet, but we strive to be.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.7 Install on Centos

2009-11-07 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 11/07/2009 09:41 AM, Greg S. wrote:
 *** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.22.2, but GLIB (2.12.3)
 *** was found! If pkg-config was correct,

Looks like you didn't set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it needs to be set during
configure-time since configure links a test-program

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Re: [Gimp-user] getting colors to match.

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 10/31/2009 11:13 PM, tess anne wrote:
 I'm trying to get a print out (onto paper) that matches, in color an original
 photo that i scanned.

Have you looked into doing proper color management with color
profiles?

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Re: [Gimp-user] getting colors to match.

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 11/01/2009 08:52 AM, tessanne wrote:
 Have you looked into doing proper color management with color
 profiles?

 / Martin

 how do I do this... I am a beginner at gimp!
 tessanne

Color management is not program or device specific, to start
you need to learn about color management in general. Googling
on color management and reading the first few hits would
be a good start. Next could be to buy a book on the subject.

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Re: [Gimp-user] hi

2009-09-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/30/2009 11:04 PM, TREY Mcatt wrote:
 I would like to stop receiveing the gimp e-mail's. Thanks

Then why don't you unsubscribe? Link can be found at the
bottom of the mails

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Re: [Gimp-user] Bits per channel

2009-09-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/29/2009 03:36 AM, Phil Labonte wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have looked online on the Gimp site and I am not clear if Gimp
 supports 16 or 24 or 32 bit images?
 
 Can someone point me to the correct answer for Gimp 2.6.7

Hi

GIMP 2.6 does not and GIMP 2.8 will not work with higher than
8 bits-per-channel images. GIMP 2.10/3.0 will.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes

2009-09-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/09/2009 07:45 PM, James B. wrote:
 With an opened photo, the filters section runs ok.  However, tools and
 colors crashes Gimp with a Windows message that the program has stopped
 working.  Downloaded/installed Gimp 2 times with same problem.


 
 
 Start gimp up, create a new blank image, then select something from the
 colors menu and it should work from then on. u just have to keep doing this
 everytime u start gimp.

The GIMP 2.6.6 installer was corrupt, the GIMP 2.6.7 installer has this problem
fixed. If you install GIMP 2.6.7, you should not get these crashes anymore. Is
it 2.6.7 you are seeing these crashes in?

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Re: [Gimp-user] A non-tool selection...

2009-09-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 09/04/2009 08:27 AM, Ilya Zakharevich wrote:
 On 2009-08-28, Greg Chapman gregtu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 I find it annoying that there 
 appears to be no selection tool that turns off all tools.
 
 I am confused by this feature request.
 
 The GIMP is an image editing package not an image display package. 
 
 Wrong.  GIMP is a package for whatever the *USER* decides it is going
 to use GIMP for.  And an absence of a convenient non-destructive tool
 is a major misfeature.

Whether the absence of such a tool is a misfeature has to be argued
from a product vision [1] perspective. That is, if having such a
tool would help us fulfill our product vision, we should add it.

 / Martin

[1] http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign#product_vision

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Re: [Gimp-user] Installing 2.6.7 in Ubuntu

2009-08-30 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/30/2009 06:56 PM, Jozef Legény wrote:
 Please consider that Gimp 2.6.7 is a developpement version and as such has no 
 place in Ubuntu's repositories.

You got it wrong, GIMP 2.7.0 is unstable, GIMP 2.6.7 is stable

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Re: [Gimp-user] A non-tool selection...

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/29/2009 12:58 AM, zed wrote:
 As a very new user of the Gimp, I find it annoying that there appears to be
 no selection tool that turns off all tools.  I am thinking of a package like
 Inscape, where the default is that when loaded no tool is selected and one
 has to make a selection before anything happens.

 Is there such a tool in the Gimp?  If there is, please will someone tell me
 how to select it, 'cos I just cannot find it?

There currently isn't, but the transform tool will be pretty similar to 
the default Inkscape tool:

http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Transformation_tool_specification

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to use layers

2009-08-25 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/25/2009 07:23 PM, thomas w. wrote:
 I've read the documentation several times and every tutorial I could get my
 hands on, but I still can't make any sense out of how to properly use
 layers..

 For example, I want to merge two pictures, by taking some regions from one
 picture and some from another.

Hi,

This seems like the first thing you need to grasp about layers: layers 
are not supposed to be merged, the whole point of layers is that they 
allow you to divide an image into several independent parts.

Instead of merging, you could add a layer mask to the top-most layer and 
get rid of the parts you don't want using the mask.

 It's so tragic that after all these years, GIMP's user interface has seen no
 improvement. I had hoped that at least the documentation would be useful.

GIMP development happens slowly but steadily. Being completely ignorant 
about the efforts that have been made to improve the GIMP UI lately is a 
good way to demotivate further work to be done. Just have some patience, 
or better, help us improve GIMP instead of complaining.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Opening huge images

2009-08-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/22/2009 07:40 AM, M. Bashir Al-Noimi wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm working on NLP project so I've to use huge TIFF images
 (12*12 px) but I can't do open or create them by GIMP!

GIMP should be able to handle such large images, what happens if you 
try? Due to constant swapping of memory to and from disk editing will be 
very slow, but it should work.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Levels tool with Layers

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/12/2009 04:21 PM, David Gowers wrote:
btw, martin nordholts is doing some great work
on layer trees presently and in the last few months.. they are shaping
up well.

You are confusing me with another M.N.

It is Michael Natterer that has been doing great work recently on 
preparing for layer groups

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Re: [Gimp-user] GELG in GIMP 2.6.6 for Windows

2009-08-12 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/12/2009 04:37 PM, J Figueroa G wrote:
 I have the 2.6.6 and when I work this filter, not work fine and close
 the program.
 I know that in another old versions the GELG work so good.

 Tutorial Link (english):
 http://www.flickr.com/groups/gimpusers/discuss/72157619079536887/
 Tutorial Link (spanish): http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddqdn9jz_8335d6vkdf

 Someone have an answer for this BUG.

 TY so much.

There is a known problem with the GIMP 2.6.6 installer, the GIMP 2.6.7 
installer will work properly. Until then, I recomend the GIMP 2.6.4 
installer. AFAIK the GIMP 2.6.5 installer is also broken.

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Re: [Gimp-user] not working

2009-08-11 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/12/2009 01:28 AM, Mary Dargis wrote:
 hi,
 I have a new hp laptop running vista x64
 i have installed and uninstalled gimp a few times and keep getting the
 message that gimp has stopped working.

The Windows installers for GIMP 2.6.5 and GIMP 2.6.6 is packaged wrongly 
and will only keep from crashing with luck.

You should either use GIMP 2.6.4 or wait for GIMP 2.6.7 to be released, 
which should be soonish.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Layer Style

2009-08-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/10/2009 01:55 AM, Robert N. Lott III wrote:
 Are there still plans to implement Layer Styles?

Yes, we can't call GIMP high-end without such a feature. It is 
impossible to say when we will have it implemented, but we are 
constantly working towards it.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem

2009-08-06 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/06/2009 07:55 AM, julien wrote:
 Hi,

 glib and gtk-related .pc files are in /usr/lib/pkgconfig. In
 /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig I have babl.pc, gegl.pc, gio-2.0.pc,
 gio-unix-2.0.pc, glib-2.0.pc but no gtk.pc, probably because it is not
 installed yet?

 I ran
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig
 export PKG_CONFIG_PATH
 and still I have this damned eroor on 'make':

PKG_CONFIG_PATH is a configure time environment variable. make does not 
care about PKG_CONFIG_PATH. You need to reconfigure with PKG_CONFIG_PATH 
and probabl LD_LIBRARY_PATH set (but again, note that LD_LIBRARY_PATH is 
not needed when later running the built software due to libtool's use of 
rpaths.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem

2009-08-05 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/05/2009 11:54 AM, Doug wrote:
 Look in /usr/lib/pkconfig and /usr/local/lib/pkconfig and check where
 various glib- and gtk-related .pc files are located.
 You may well need both pkconfig folders.
 Then
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkconfig:/usr/lib/pkconfig; export
 PKG_CONFIG_PATH; ./configure

 You should be able to compile but you may not be able to run, because
 the program can't find this or that library which you know you have -
 you get a message saying couldn't find library lib..so.

 Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH may avoid that happening, but quite often it
 doesn't.

Setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH is only necessary at configure time. After that 
it is not necessary since libtool sets the necessary rpaths of the 
binaries it builds, at least for the babl/GLib/GTK+/GEGL/GIMP stack.

And why use a prefix that requires root write privileges?

Instead of manually setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH, let 
configure do that. Just put this in /home/user/dev/share/config.site:

   export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
   export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH

and invoke ./autogen.sh or configure with --prefix=/home/user/dev. By 
having config.site there is no need to keep PKG_CONFIG_PATH and 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH globally, and automatic reconfiguration when making 
after e.g. configure.in/ac changes works without issues.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Please ,check this image

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/01/2009 01:05 PM, photocomix wrote:
   i never noticed a similar bug, even if i used Gimp to save as copy  
 thousands
 of jpeg, and i would never believed this possible, but i have to face
 evidence

 to the point image dimensions: 90x116 Size: 547KB

 And what is really weird is that seems impossible , re-saving from gimp  as
 jpg reduce the file size...even at quality 1 ( !!) i can't shrink it

The JPEG has an embedded ICC color profile which GIMP ignores since it's 
a CMYK profile, but it keeps it around anyway and writes it to the JPEG 
if you resave it.

To see the size of the attached color profile, first extract it:

   $ exiftool -icc_profile -b -w icc lightbulb.jpg

Then look at how big it (and the image) is:

   $ du -hb lightbulb.*

which gives the output

   557168  lightbulb.icc
   560484  lightbulb.jpg

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Re: [Gimp-user] GTK make problem

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/01/2009 08:44 PM, julien wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to install gtk+-2.16.5 from sources under openSuse-11.0,
 (before installing unstable GIMP for UI translation).
 Configure gives no error message.
 Running make gives this error:
 
 /usr/local/lib/libgio-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_poll'

 I can't find how to resolve this problem.
 I'd be grateful for any help.

Looks like you're not linking against the proper GLib library, make sure 
to setup PKG_CONFIG_PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH at configure time so that 
the right dependencies are found preferably through the use of config.site.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Please ,check this image

2009-08-01 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/01/2009 09:11 PM, photocomix wrote:
 @ David
 Perhaps it should also mention the size of the profile
 will be nice,as will be useful a option  a option to discard it.(as Exif data
 that occupy much less space may be discarded)..i mean a option from the Save
 (or if you prefer the term Export)dialog

 Or  similar issues are too rare to require changes ?

To me, keeping the CMYK profile around and writing it to an RGB jpeg 
does not make sense; I don't think GIMP does the right thing here. 
Showing the size of the color profile would be informative, but only a 
workaround to the problem we're seeing here.

I don't want to spend time to patch things here and there with regards 
to color management though. We need a specification on how color 
profiles should be managed on a bigger scale, otherwise we'll end up 
with an inconsistent program.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP

2009-07-23 Thread Martin Nordholts
With some help from Jernej I have now been able too look into this 
problem. It would be of great help if people with crashes when doing:

  1. Start GIMP
  2. Create new default image
  3. Tools - GEGL Operation...

could try to move

  C:\Program Files (x86)\GIMP-2.0\lib\gegl-0.0\load-buffer.dll

into a temporary dir, just so that GEGL does not pick up load-buffer.dll 
when starting.

On my tests on Vista SP2, removing this GEGL operation from the 
operations GEGL loads gets rid of this particular crash, and I suspect 
this will get rid of this particular crash on XP systems as well.

If anyone is able to confirm that removing/moving load-buffer.dll fixes 
the above crash, please let me know and report what version of Windows 
you are using.

  Thanks,
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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 09:35 PM, John Culleton wrote:
 On Sunday 19 July 2009 05:13:06 am you wrote:
 On 07/19/2009 03:16 AM, John Culleton wrote:
 IMO
 these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release
 itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that.
 Embedding babl and GEGL in the GIMP tarball would make usage of
 GEGL by other projects much more complicated, and we don't want
 that. A library shared between many apps will have much more
 development and maintenance than a library only used by a single
 app, so we should encourage usage of these libraries by other
 projects.

/ Martin
 I look at it from the point of view of the user, who just wants to
 install the program and get it running on his/her machine.

If you just want to install gimp and run it, use the package manager 
that comes with your distro. By nature, building software can be quite 
complicated and is not intended for normal users.

Also, please keep the discussion on-list.

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 11:20 PM, John Culleton wrote:
 I see no compelling reason not to include the libs in the tarball.

What is so problematic about fetching the libs from ftp.gimp.org?

If you suggest we should have the actual babl and GEGL code in the GIMP 
tarball, this is a bad idea. babl and GEGL are version controlled in 
different git repos, and it is not an option to version control them in 
the GIMP repo. They are separate, self-contained libraries.

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 11:47 PM, John Culleton wrote:
 The version that matches the version of Gimp in the tarball is what
 should be included IMO.

There is no version of GEGL that matches a given version of GIMP. GEGL 
is a library with an API (currently somewhat unstable due to 
immatureness of the library, but this is beside the point) that is 
independent of GIMP. Distributing GEGL in GIMP would imply that GEGL can 
not be bugfixed as maintainted separately, and this is wrong.

  If e.g. Slackware can prepackage Gimp with all the
 required libraries it seems to me that the Gimp folks could do the
 same.

Nothing prevents you from stepping up and becoming part of the GIMP 
folks so to speak and do Slackware packaging.

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/19/2009 03:16 AM, John Culleton wrote:
  IMO
 these required libraries should be embedded in the Gimp release
 itself but there may be turf issues that prevent that.


Embedding babl and GEGL in the GIMP tarball would make usage of GEGL by 
other projects much more complicated, and we don't want that. A library 
shared between many apps will have much more development and maintenance 
than a library only used by a single app, so we should encourage usage 
of these libraries by other projects.

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/19/2009 04:58 AM, Owen wrote:
 if you built babl and gegl from scratch, no problems, but sounds like
 you might be using Ubuntu or fedora. So look in you package manager
 for things like gegl-dev and babl-dev

If he is trying to build git master then the packages provided by his 
distro will not work since he basically needs git master of babl and 
GEGL too.


 If you built babl and gegl in some non standard directory, you need to
 tell the system where to find them, hence;

 export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/non_standard/directory/lib/pkgconfig

There is method to deal with building for non-standard prefixes that is 
superior to manually managing the environment variables, and this method 
is config.site.

Put this in the file /home/user/dev/share/config.site:

   # for development: export CFLAGS=-g -O0
   export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH
   export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/user/dev/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH

This file will then be sourced by configure whenever it is invoked with 
the prefix /home/user/dev, so assuming you have all build dependencies, 
all you have to do to build babl, GEGL and GIMP is to clone all the 
repos from git://git.gnome.org/project and then do

   ./autogen.sh --prefix=/home/user/dev
   make
   make install

in all of them, in that order. Then after git pull --rebase you don't 
need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do

   make

and all dependencies will be processed properly with the right env vars set.

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/19/2009 11:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:
 Then after git pull --rebase you don't
 need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do

   make

That should of course be

   make
   make install

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/19/2009 11:39 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:
 On 07/19/2009 11:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote:
 Then after git pull --rebase you don't
 need to bother about setting up the environment again, you just do

 make

 That should of course be

 make
 make install

 / Martin

I should also mention that to run your fresh build of GIMP you don't 
need to setup any env vars at all since libtool have setup the rpaths in 
the binaries, so just doing

   /home/user/dev/bin/gimp-2.7

without messing with environment variables will launch GIMP 2.7.

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote:
 Hi Martin,

 Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many
 times.  Please advise  regards

Exactly what commands do you use?

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 01:22 AM, Greg S. wrote:
 On 07/20/2009 01:11 AM, Greg S. wrote:
 Hi Martin,

 Thanks for your info, but git did not work. Other end hungup. Tried many
 times.  Please advise  regards
 Exactly what commands do you use?

   / Martin
 These are the commands to set up git from the git site.
 git config --global user.name Rupert Monkey
 git config --global user.email rup...@example.com


 Plus below also from git site.

 To clone all the history and branches of a project, from a shell:

 git clone git://git.gnome.org/[project]


You need to specify the project, try

   cd ~/source
   git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl
   git clone git://git.gnome.org/gegl
   git clone git://git.gnome.org/gimp

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Re: [Gimp-user] babl

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/20/2009 02:05 AM, Greg S. wrote:
 I have all the repos from git for babl, gegl  gimp. I have run ./configure
 and still configure can't find babl.

 What do I do next. This is driving me nuts. /Greg


You are supposed to use ./autogen.sh, not ./configure. Calm down adn 
read my instructions again:
http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/2009-July/015313.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] GEGL crashes Gimp 2.6.6 on XP

2009-07-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/15/2009 09:57 AM, John wrote:
 Using Gimp 2.6.6 on XP SP3 and all current updates.
 When attempting at open the GEGL dialog, Gimp crashes.
 Anything else that I try works just fine (so far).
 Is this known? Is there a work around?
 Gimp 2.6.4 did not crash.



GIMP 2.6.6 has had really bad stability on Windows and no one knows why. 
Hopefully it will disappear as quickly in 2.6.7 as it appeared in 2.6.6.

Most of the bug reports have not been about GEGL crashing though but the 
color tools, there have been a lot of duplicates of this bug:
Bug 577581 – Crashes when using any colors tool/functionBug 577581 – 
Crashes when using any colors tool/function
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577581

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Re: [Gimp-user] Crashes in GIMP 2.6.6

2009-07-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/04/2009 06:33 AM, John Coppens wrote:
 I recompiled a new version of Gimp (still 2.6.6) and the error remains.
 But now I can get a backtrace:

 It's not much, but it might help. Is this some error of mine, or should I
 submit this as a bug report?


Yes please, submit a bug report:
bugs.gimp.org

Be sure to specify the GTK+ version you use, and also step-by-step 
instructions on how to reproduce the problem

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes

2009-06-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
G J J wrote:
 I get the same thing.  So I checked my event logs.  I get 0xc005 
 error, 
 To figure out what this is, you  drop the 'c' and plug it into net 
 helpmsg. 
  This is what I got

 C:\Users\thisismenet helpmsg 5

 Access is denied.

The above error is due a memory access fault aka segmentation fault, it 
has nothing to do with file access.


 So for weeks I tried to think of what it is trying to access.  I kept 
 thinking that
 Vista updated itself and caused the problem with a new version.  I 
 think this is
 partially correct as it did not happen till a while after I installed 
 2.6.6

 Finally, it hit me.   Vista gives you grief when you access some parts
 of the c:\documents and settings folder.  So I right-clicked on the
 gimp-2.6.exe file and said run as administrator. 
 This worked moments ago so I am unsure as to the permanency of
 the work around.  I am posting in the hopes that the developers will
 see this and correct it on their end

This is still very interesting, does GIMP crash for you when you use 
color tools if you don't run as admin? I.e. is running as admin a 
workaround for the frequently reported color tool crash problem?:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577581

Best regards,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp crashes

2009-06-21 Thread Martin Nordholts
G J J wrote:
 I hjave not tested extensively.  but so far, yes

 
 **
 This is still very interesting, does GIMP crash for you when you use 
 color tools if you don't run as admin? I.e. is running as admin a 
 workaround for the frequently reported color tool crash problem?:
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577581

 Best regards,
 Martin



Excellent, CCing gegl-developer.

Jernej, any clues of why this might be?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Manual format.

2009-06-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
John Culleton wrote:
  git clone --depth=0 git://git.gnome.org/gimp-help-2
 
 This is just what I was looking for! Thanks.  Am I correct in 
 assuming that setting depth=0 delivers just the latest version?

   

You get the latest version also without --depth=0, but you also get the 
entire history of gimp-help-2, which is huge. So unless you want the 
history, --depth=0 will save you vast amounts of data copying.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Green Stripes On Tools?

2009-05-29 Thread Martin Nordholts
STINGER wibblywobblyteapot.co.uk wrote:
 If I use the paths tool and drag to move I get a horrible green mess of
 breadcrumbs where the tool has been.

Looks like http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421466

The cause is a driver problem, the workaround is to add

  (xor-color (color-rgb 1.0 1.0 1.0))

to your gimprc

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6 Features

2009-05-17 Thread Martin Nordholts
Asif Lodhi wrote:
 Hi,

 IIRC, in one or more earlier posts to this list, the Gimp people said
 that 2.6 would have enhanced color support (CYMK, etc???) and
 non-destructive layer work functionality, etc. Has this been
 implemented in 2.6?

Hi, you can read about the new features in GIMP 2.6 compared to GIMP 2.4 
here:
http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html

There were no significant improvements for CMYK and non-destructive 
layer tweaking in 2.6.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Lost dialogues for clone tools

2009-04-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
Simon Lowen wrote:
 When I start the clone tool
 the dialogue box in the panel is missing. This is the box that allows
 the adjustments of the clone tool and the way it interacts with the
 image. It had sat in the portion that says You can drop dockable
 dialogs here, but I remember closing this area accidently.
   

Just resize the toolbox, that will expose that area. Then you can drag 
any dockables to that area that you like. In your case, you want the 
Tool Options dockable.

Refer to http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-concepts-usage.html and the 
sections linked to.

BR,
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Re: [Gimp-user] [GSoC] (Almost) final slot count, final project ranking

2009-04-13 Thread Martin Nordholts
Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Tuesday 00:04:41 Martin Nordholts wrote:
   
 Let's have this as a base for discussion.
 
 My top would be Brush Dynamics, followed by Dynamic
 Resampler.

I should add that I didn't sort the projects in any particular order in 
my list

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Re: [Gimp-user] Annoying Windows Layering

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
Brian Weese wrote:
 I have the latest build of GIMP 2.6.6 ad running Windows XP.
  
 The Toolbox dialog and any dockable dialogs are ALWAYS in front of the 
 file I am working on.  I usually have the layers and brush dialogs 
 open while I'm working on a file.  I could increase the screen 
 resolution but it makes the text so tiny...  I have been able to work 
 around it for now, but it is really annoying.

Hi

You can change the dock window hints in Edit - Preferences - Window 
Managment to Normal window if you don't want them as utility windows.

Note that you can toggle visibility of docks with the Tab key.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 16-bit/CMYK roadmap?

2009-04-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
Claus Cyrny wrote:
 Hi,

 after following the thread on printing out of the Gimp,
 I wonder when 16-bit/CMYK is supposed to be implemented
 in the Gimp?

There is no fixed date set. Work is ongoing. It is impossible to say
when it will be done.

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Re: [Gimp-user] color sampler

2009-04-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
norman wrote:
 Is there an equivalent in GIMP to the Color Sampler tool in Photoshop,
 please?
   

What does that tool do?

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Re: [Gimp-user] color sampler

2009-04-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
norman wrote:
 What does that tool do?
 

 This has come directly to me so I assume you only copied it to the list.
 That means the list will not see my reply.

 I will quote what I see in a book I have:-  With the Color Sampler tool
 active, clicking in your image attaches up to four samplers. These four
 Color Samplers can be used to measure and track shadows, mid tones,
 highlights and a fourth tone of your choice. While you are actively
 adjusting tonal values the color samplers provide a before and after
 readout in the Info palette.

 It seems to be a bit like the Eyedropper but more so.

 Norman

That's what the Reply to All button in your mail client is for.

The Sample Points should give roughly what you want:
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-sample-point-dialog.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] Change ruler to inches.

2009-03-22 Thread Martin Nordholts
Carusoswi wrote:
 I had her email me the xcf file which I opened in
 GIMP 2.6 on my machine.  We constructed the template with the rulers showing
 inches, but on my machine, they are showing something else (I don't know
 what).  
   

Hi

The unit of the rulers is the same as the unit in the bottom of the
image window, in the left part of the statusbar.

The unit you used to display the image is not saved to the file, so when
you open the file on another computer (or the same computer) the unit of
the window will default to pixels. One could argue that the unit used to
display the file should be saved, but it is not trivial to solve since
one image can be shown using different units in different image windows.

In any case, to show the rulers in inches on your machine, just change
the unit in the statusbar to inches.

BR,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Where did Gimps menu's go?

2009-03-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Gene Heskett wrote:
 gimp is a 2.6, whatever Fedora 10 is shipping. I hadn't run it since 
 upgrading 
 to F10 from F8, and I can't find the xsane linkage or anything.  The tools 
 menu looks like it has some empty space where those menu items used to be.

 How do I get them back  usable.

   

Hi

The toolbox menu is gone, refer to release notes for more info:
http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.6.html

You can find XSane in File - Create - XSane

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Re: [Gimp-user] problem getting the thing to work

2009-03-19 Thread Martin Nordholts
Red Green wrote:
 I am having an EXTREME AMOUNT OF TROUBLE getting this stupid thing to work.
 1 I downloaded version 2.6.5 and opened it.  It wouldn't run.  It gave an 
 error box but did not explain what the error was.

 2 Somebody told me they thought it was because I have windows 2000.  The web 
 page says windows 2000 is ok.

 3 I downloaded 2.4.0 and it wouldn't work.

 4 I downloaded 2.2.17 and it wouldn't work.

 Could I get some help with this??
   


What installer are you using? Exact link please. Exactly what does the
error message you get say?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Change Language in Gimp

2009-03-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
OnyX wrote:
 Hello. In my iMac Leopard System Pereference - International.  Swedish is set 
 as first  language. I like that. My Blender speak english. why not in Gimp. 
 How kan I change to english.
   

Does these instructions help?

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-fire-up.html#gimp-concepts-running-language

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP needs to close (!)

2009-03-11 Thread Martin Nordholts
David Herman wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 March 2009, aether wrote:
   
 Hi, again.

 I appreciate you guys taking the time to help me with GIMP.  I
 have checked everything you've suggested, and I find nothing at
 all.
 

 Abiword is another program that uses gtk, you could try installing 
 that, if abiword works, give gimp one more try.
   

The typical cause of these kind of problems is that there is a
system-wide installation of GTK+ that is incompatible with your version
of GIMP. GIMP comes with a compatible version of GTK+, but a system-wide
install overrides that.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Method to add File Menu to Toolbox?

2009-03-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
Pigeon wrote:
 So just forget about
   
 the idea of adding a file menu to the toolbox. The toolbox is not a
 normal toplevel window any longer, it's just a utility window for the
 active image window.


 Sven
 

 Sorry, I'm not going to forget about it. I want it back the way it was -
 with the File menu at the top of the toolbox window, the toolbox window
 behaving as a normal toplevel window, and no default blank image window. It's
 much more convenient that way. 
   

Hi Pigeon

There is no way to get the menu back and no such way is going to be
added. The only way to get a menu in the toolbox is to use GIMP 2.4.
There were many reasons to get rid of the toolbox menu, one being that
two menubars in one application is just plain wrong. For more reasoning
behind the change, refer to the UI specification [1]

BR,
Martin

[1] http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/No_image_open_specification
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Re: [Gimp-user] [GSoC] Logo, Flyer, FAQ, Timeline, Project Proposals

2009-02-17 Thread Martin Nordholts
John Culleton wrote:
 Not into IRC---too many technologies, too little time. So a 
 quick question: are there any plans to have Gimp work in 
 the cmyk color model, as does Scribus, Krita etc. and thus 
 open it up more fully to the publishing market?  

There are no plans other than at some point we should start adding
proper CMYK support to GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
peter kostov wrote:
 peter kostov wrote:
   
 Hi :)

 I am having this problem - when I slect Gegl Operation the Gegl
 operation toolbox appears as normal, but when I select anything from the
 drop list with operations the sliders and check boxes for inputting
 settings are missing.

The tool is experimental so it might panic every once in a while.

Don't you literally get any settings widget all all, for any operation
you choose? Maybe you get them but the window does not resize it self to
allow them to be showed? (there have been problems with that)

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Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
peter kostov wrote:

 Before upgrading GIMP system wide to this version, I had an
 installation in my home dir, in which this tool worked fine!

 Thanks, Peter

The version installed in your home dir might conflict with the
system-wide version. Have you made sure this is not the case? If you
haven't, try remove the version in your home dir.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
peter kostov wrote:

 Hi Martin,

 done that already. Nothing from the previous installation in my home
 dir has left, even the .gimp-2.6 folder :)

 The error messages I get are showing clearly a problem with glib, I
 think, but my knowledge is limited :(

 Thanks again, Peter

The problem is unlikely to be in GLib, it's just that GLib is used to
output the errors.

Please install debugging symbols and run with --g-fatal-warnings and
report back with a stack trace of exactly where things are reported to
go wrong.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
peter kostov wrote:

 In the moment I select anything from the drop down list in 'Gegl
 operation' GIMP crashes with these messages and nothing more:


 Peter

Run it in a debugger, refer to http://developer.gimp.org/faq.html#id2467309

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Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
peter kostov wrote:

 Or if I run GIMP so:
 pe...@peter ~ $ gimp --g-fatal-warnings --stack-trace-mode=always
 --debug-handlers

 GLib-GObject-WARNING **: type name `GimpGeglTool-gegl:box-blur-config'
 contains invalid characters
 aborting...
 gimp: terminated: Aborted
 #0  0xb7f4c424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
 #1  0xb75d0f9b in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
 #2  0xb75ef577 in g_on_error_stack_trace () from
 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
 #3  0x0011 in ?? ()
 #4  0x0b2ce178 in ?? ()
 #5  0x0001 in ?? ()
 #6  0x in ?? ()

 (script-fu:1936): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: gimp_wire_read():
 error


 Peter


That was not the entire stack trace was it? Make sure you have debugging
information in the binary, i.e. make sure the -g flag is passed to gcc.

Another thing that is interesting is what your output of 'ldd gimp' is.
Does it only link against libraries you expect it to?

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Re: [Gimp-user] gegl operation dialog box is missing the sliders

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Nordholts
peter kostov wrote:
 O.K. This time I did the backtrace properly, unfortunately there is
 nothing more. Below is the whole backtrace.log file from gdb:

Please come to #gimp on irc.gnome.org as it is much more convenient to
debug these kind of problems over IRC than over a mailing list.

My nick is Enselic.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Ask for the release time of gimp 2.6.5

2009-01-20 Thread Martin Nordholts
Aron wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I want to know when will gimp 2.6.5 release

Hi

Sven usually makes a new release when the number of fixed bugs since the
last release (which you can see in the ChangeLog [1]) becomes about the
same amount as always for a bugfix release (which you can see in the
NEWS file [2]). There are no specific dates to be given but you can try
to extrapolate a release date by looking at dates for previous releases).

- Martin

[1] http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gimp/branches/gimp-2-6/ChangeLog?view=markup
[2] http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.6
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-2.6.4-i686-setup.exe win-gimp

2009-01-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Jim Carlock wrote:
 One last thing I'll add to this...

 script-fu.exe - Entry Point Not Found
 The procedure entry point g_format_size_for_display could not
 be located in the dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll.

GIMP 2.6 comes with GTK+/GLib .dlls. If you have .dlls in a system wide
directory such as C:\Windows\System32 these will however be picked up
first. My guess is that you have GTK+/GLib .dlls in a system wide
directory and GIMP does not end up using the GTK+/GLib DLLs it is
supposed to.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2 questions about layers and selection

2009-01-11 Thread Martin Nordholts
poppe wrote:
 Hello

 How can i select multiple layers at once?
 For example when i want to delete 10 layers at once.

 Where can i see what my selection size is?
 It tells nowhere what the selection size is after releasing mousebutton.

   

Hi

You can currently only select on layer at a time.

The size of the selection can easily be seen in Windows - Dockable
Dialogs - Pointer, but you need GIMP SVN trunk for that (i.e. it will
be in GIMP 2.8). The enhancement request was:
Bug 138101 – Pointer (Information) tab should display selection bounds
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138101

BR,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Key commands?

2009-01-04 Thread Martin Nordholts
Al G. wrote:
 Hi,
 is there a way to use undo key command in GIMP? For some reason it does not
 work on my Mac (G5)

   
Hi

Maybe you have reassigned the keys? Look in Edit - Keyboard Shortcuts.
You should also see the current keyboard shortcut next to the menu item
under in the Edit menu.

- Martin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Foreground Select Tool

2009-01-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
Owen wrote:
 Selecting the Foreground Select Tool gives me the 'lasso' (Free Select
 Tool) tip and it acts as the Free Select Tool, not as the Foreground
 Select Tool

Hi,

The Foreground Select Tool is based on the Free Select Tool and you are
supposed to select the initial area using the Free Select Tool logic.
Refer to the (not updated for 2.6) documentation:
http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-foreground-select.html

BR,
Martin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Win32: Use standard Windows File Open/Save dialog

2009-01-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
Dotan Cohen wrote:
 2009/1/3 Heinrich Moser use...@heinzi.at:
   
 Is it possible to make GIMP use the default Windows File Open/Save
 dialog*, for example, by setting some secret configuration option? I
 remember that there was a plug-in for this a long time ago (which
 added Windows Open and Windows Save As menu options) but I cannot
 find that anymore.

 

 There seems to be a NIH syndrome in many programs, Gimp included,
 where the devs feel (possibly rightly in many cases) that they must
 reimplement core OS functionality.

Hi,

GIMP not reimplementing core OS functionality, we are using the GTK+
library so that we can care as little as possible about OS specific
things. Your point about inconsistent file choosers is still valid but I
don't really see a trivial solution. Keep in mind that GIMP's usage of
the file chooser is more involving than just firing up a dialog to get a
file path. It would not be feasible to maintain the code that interacts
with the file chooser for multiple file choosers, at least not with the
current GIMP developer resources.

BR,
Martin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Problem loading BMP; invalid BMP or bug in GIMP?

2008-12-29 Thread Martin Nordholts
Roel Schroeven wrote:
 Hi,

 I have some BMP-files that GIMP doesn't load correctly; GIMP shows
 almost the whole image as transparent instead of the real image data.
 Only a small region is visible, and even that with partial transparency.
 The image doesn't contain any transparency though (I don't even think
 BMP supports transparency).

 Other image editors and viewers such as Irfanview and Paint.NET open the
 image correctly.

 I'm using GIMP 2.6.2 on Windows XP.
 If you want to see the image, get it at
 http://rschroev.fastmail.fm/radar-20081222T090636-00.bmp (5 MB) or
 http://rschroev.fastmail.fm/radar-20081222T090636-00.zip (854 kB).

 Should I report this as a bug? Or is the BMP maybe written in an invalid
 format?

   

Hi

If other editors are able to open the file it is not corrupt. (Maybe it
is but the other loaders are then at least able to adjust for this.)

Feel free to file a bug report and attach the BMP.

- Martin

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Re: [Gimp-user] Method to add File Menu to Toolbox?

2008-12-29 Thread Martin Nordholts
DJ wrote:
 Hi Gimp-user,

 With the recent version of The Gimp, the File Menu was removed from
 the Tool Box window, and now there are 2 windows at all times. When I
 want to open an image, do a screen capture, change The Gimp
 Preference, etc, I have to rummage around for a currently open image
 to access the File menu. These usually are minimized.

 Does anyone know of a way to get the File Menu back on the Toolbox, or
 to get the interface to work like it did in the past in version 2.2?

Hi,

You can't get the toolbox menu back, but you can press Tab to hide the
Toolbox and any Dialogs, leaving you with only one window and a menu
again, the empty image window.

- Martin

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