it's a case of i'm right and the whole world didn't figure it out right
anyhow, i'm leaving that place very soon
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:02:38 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/22/2006
at 08:17 PM, Ambat Ravi Nair [EMAIL
how was it done prior to XE ?
and what sort of monitoring is being conducted ?
isn't messages on console sufficient ?
else some automation packages (AF/Operator, etc)
can help - depending on your needs.
the picture still isn't clear to me - sorry.
- ravi.
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:10:57 -0700,
i migrate remote 3174 to CISCO router in place of 3745.
we have a problem that some control units timed out and disconnect then
connect each 5 seconds.
the control unit is connected thru modem to serial interface.
the interface configured as SDLC.
Can I PUT a temporary dataset using FTP... For example, I have a job
where the last thing it should do is slap some results over to a GDG
on another machine. I'd really like to be able to:
PUT TEMPDSN 'SOME.REMOTE.GDG.BASE(+1)'
However, TEMPDSN doesn't appear to get resolved to it's real
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:41:20 -0700, Skip Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To shut down, we VARY XCF OFF. The HMC beeps and turns red. We move on. No
system reset.
Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject
Re: Fw: IXC102A automated by SFM ?
What do you do to shutdown? The red icons indicate
Abdullah,
Please post the NCP definition of a typical 3174, that is the GROUP, LINE
and PU statements (don't bother about LU statements). Also post the
specifications you have used with your Cisco machine software - is it SNASw
with DLSw+ perhaps?
I assume the 3274 control units worked quite
Walt's link is all you need, but the short version is //DD:REPFILE
The earlier (current?) versions of the FTP manual manage to hide this
feature like they were ashamed of it or something, but as a result of my
grumbling in this forum I was contacted by the head of IP documentation and
they have
All,
The Re-scheduled Enterprise Security Guide meeting will take place on the 8th
June 2006.
The location will be either IBM Southbank or Bedfont Lakes; I am awaiting
confirmation and will let you know ASAP.
The Agenda is setout below. If you would like to attend this meeting please
send an
In a recent note, Walt Farrell said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:41:59 -0400
On 4/24/2006 7:28 AM, Steve Flynn wrote:
...snipped...
PUT DD:REPFILE 'SOME.REMOTE.GDG.BASE(+1)'
Is FTP GDG-savvy? There's a long litany of problems accessing
GDG generations by any method other than
Dennis,
Besides reading the book that John pointed you too, I'd suggest a mod-9
is NOT overkill. Just out Root, and Java filesystems together on 1.6
are 50,612 tracks. Regarding SYSRES, we just use a single mod-27 to
house all targets, and SMPE controlled HFS(non-SMS managed) datasets,
and a
In a recent note, Steve Flynn said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:27:51 +0100
PUT TEMPDSN 'SOME.REMOTE.GDG.BASE(+1)'
However, TEMPDSN doesn't appear to get resolved to it's real
temporary name.
I had believed the name construct is a JCL interpreter facility,
available in no other
Good Morning
Can anyone tell me what the F means when I display a dasd unit?
UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE
924A 3390 F-NRD /RSDNT
Thanks
-
Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make
Can anyone tell me what the F means when I display a dasd unit?
UNIT TYPE STATUSVOLSER VOLSTATE
924A 3390 F-NRD /RSDNT
F short for OFFLINE and NRD is NOT READY. If the device was READY, it
should just show as OFFLINE.
--
Bruce A. Black
- Original Message
From: Bill Neiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Walter,
When the documentation speaks about automating IXC102A, what it
really means is that the system will not issue IXC102A at all, with SFM
set up appropriately in a parallel sysplex. Barbara is correct - in a
parallel
Willie,
If you look up the message ID (should be like an IEE message) with this
display you would find that it means that the dasd unit is offline. NRD
means not ready. So you need to have someone vary the device online. If
that does not work, then you would need to have someone do a display of
Are you/they perhaps confusing create a new GDG [new group] with create a
new generation of an existing GDG? I *think* FTP can do the latter but not
the former.
All of the why questions are valid but as useless as many why questions. Why
did they do it that way? Because they did.
Why they didn't
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/21/2006
09:37:14 PM:
To shut down, we VARY XCF OFF. The HMC beeps and turns red. We move
on. No
system reset.
The VARY XCF OFF puts the system in a wait state, thus the red icon.
But it does not do a system reset.
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:33:04 -0700, Skip Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Without mining thru previous posts--I thought the dangling issue was the
last system down, where SFM no longer has the power to initiate a cleanup.
Isn't that the case where system reset is proposed as necessary?
Also
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:48:59 -0400, Roland Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Listers, my client is looking for a software package for monitorring
the STK tape libraries. They are at z/OS 1.5.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
What do you want to monitor? Cell free space? What is where?
If you are looking for charts based on STK's user SMF records,
my company has a product that will do that. Check our website
or contact me offlist if you want more information.
Regards,
Mark Vitale
Senior Software Engineer
Telephone 610.865.0300 (ext. 138)
ISM - The power behind great IT
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/24/2006
at 01:29 AM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Check this out. It appears to be CMS HELP for the LOAD command. It
includes a description of the REP card but also a VER card.
Thanks.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position;
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/24/2006
at 01:46 AM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The conjecture may be mine. The operating system was *not* DOS (VSE)
or VM. I'm pretty sure it was the usual smaller OS of the time, VS1
was it mot?
OS/VS1 was the follow-on to OS/360 MFT II. While smaller
On Monday 24 April 2006 08:58, Charles Mills wrote:
... the short version is //DD:REPFILE
The earlier (current?) versions of the FTP manual manage to hide this
feature like they were ashamed of it or something, .
My understanding (I may be wrong) is that support for //DD:ddname was a
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/24/2006
at 02:26 AM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I think the text you found logically, if not chronologically,
precedes the introduction of the type 2.1 node and the introduction
of the control point as the entity managing the node rather than
always the PU.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/23/2006
at 06:08 PM, John S. Giltner, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Any OS can support the hardware clock for the platform it is running
on to be set to local time or UTC.
Where did I imply that a OS can support hardware that is not
there?
The text that you quoted
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
04/23/2006
at 11:06 AM, willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Subject: TSO COLUMNS Command
Do you mean ISPF?
I would like to just view columns 50 -55 when in edit/browse mode in
a dsn.
ISPF EDIT and VIEW provide a line command called BNDS that can be used
to limit
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TOD Clock the
same as the BIOS clock in PCs?
Date: Date: Mon, Apr 24 2006 4:36 am
which was probably brought to you by the same people who have a bizarre
collating sequence where zero follows 9 (see your local keyboard or
telephone keypad for
However CMS LOAD rejects a SYM card as invalid. Assembler generates it,
LOAD hiccups.
Chris Mason wrote:
Shmuel,
Check this out. It appears to be CMS HELP for the LOAD command. It includes
a description of the REP card but also a VER card.
--
Chris Langford,
Cestrian Software:
Jim Mulder wrote:
APAR OY36587 on SP4.1.0 (around 1991) added support for a System Control
Program Initiated Reset. When MVS loads a disabled wait state (for
example, the 0A2 wait state which results from VARY XCF OFF), MVS issues a Diagnose
instruction to initiate the reset and load the
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/23/2006
at 08:48 PM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If the appropriate SETPROG is issued, each address space gets the new
linklist.
Isn't there still some code in the system that uses the original DEB?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
F-NRD offline, not ready
willie bunter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OO.COM
SNAPSHOT: Please join us for an IBM System z9 Business Class announcement
on Thursday, April 27 at 16:30 UK.
Who thinks of these things, and do they have ANY contact with reality?
OK, guys. We've had an increasingly tough time over the past couple of
decades, mostly
because of IBM's software
USSTAB - fine - but why only some of the LUs?
To reply to that question only, you don't need USSTAB's for printers.
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For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the
In a message dated 4/24/2006 11:40:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
when was the last time a paid mainframe employee flew Business Class at
company
expense?
October, 1998 was my last time. It all depends on who your employer is, how
profitable they are, their
Some of these questions I am asking the originator of the project and have
not gotten an answer yet.
Some I can answer: Yes, all of the sessions are 5250/3270, some are
printers, but they are still considered 'of that type'.
The other 3 questions will remain unanswered for now.
Sorry.
On
Phil Payne wrote:
SNAPSHOT: Please join us for an IBM System z9 Business Class announcement
on Thursday, April 27 at 16:30 UK.
Who thinks of these things, and do they have ANY contact with reality?
OK, guys. We've had an increasingly tough time over the past couple of
decades, mostly
Please refrain from using words in your posts that may be
deemed offensive or inappropriate. ...like the one just recently posted.
Personally, I don't care, but I am getting flooded with rejections
from all the content analyzers (Mail Marshall, etc.). If it happens
again, I will put the offender
Phil Payne wrote:
SNAPSHOT: Please join us for an IBM System z9 Business Class announcement
on Thursday, April 27 at 16:30 UK.
Who thinks of these things, and do they have ANY contact with reality?
OK, guys. We've had an increasingly tough time over the past couple of
decades, mostly
I would have to try it to be sure, but I don't believe it matters in
regards to your concern for totally messing things up.
If IEASYMXY is specified in LOADxx, but not present in parmlib I would
expect the following:
IEA013E ERROR DETECTED PROCESSING IEASYMxx:...
IEA011A RESPECIFY ENTIRE
Hello, DB2 V7.1, z/OS 1.4, WLM Goal Mode here, with DB2 PM, cross posting
to DB2-L and IBM-Main, here!
There is a lot written about this topic in the archives, and I'm also
looking at other resources (Hugh Smith presentation, DB2 Admin guide,
etc.) but I'd like to make a recommendation to our
Hi Dave. I too have an unpleasant taste in my mouth from multi-level
aliases. I don't remember a lot of the details, but they were a PITA when
I was merging two master catalogs. It didn't help that the shop I was in
also made extensive use of dataset aliases, which I detest.
One question
1 SI DBP1
2PN FIPLAN DB2TTRAN
2PN MANTIS DB2PTRAN
2PN *
DBP1 is our production subsystem. I assume that DBTTRAN has a lower
priority than DB2PTRAN. (Because FIPLAN is mostly batch against
production and MANTIS is mostly online.)
Can't make
Let me get this straight: you offer ten labs [that] let you get your hands on
. . . Hot Catholic High School Girls in Bondage?
Computer training sure has changed a lot over the years.
Jon
snip
Back in 1999, I wrote a course about inter-language
communication in OS/390 and asked the
Steve
It appears that the first level definition does not specify a default
service class for SI DBP1. Therefore the asterisk does exactly what it
should, putting the fallthrough threads in DISC.
The problem can be remedied by specifying as follows:
1 SI DBP1DB2TTRAN
2 PNMANTIS
I've got a question for the group-at-large, which I hope
will be obvious to someone deeply in-the-know.
I've got a program that opens a VB PDS (RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=2550,LRECL=255).
But - note that I said it opens the PDS, not a member of the PDS. That
open succeeds, and presumably, the program
Jon Brock wrote:
Let me get this straight: you offer ten labs [that] let you get your hands on . . . Hot Catholic High School Girls in Bondage?
Computer training sure has changed a lot over the years.
Yeah. Well, I try to stay current!
-Steve Comstock
In a recent note, Gilbert Saint-Flour said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:03:42 -0400
My understanding (I may be wrong) is that support for //DD:ddname was a
by-product of a change in one of the C routines used by the FTP client,
i.e. it's not something that resulted from a change in
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:41 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?
I've got a question for the group-at-large, which I
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:40:51 -0400 Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:I've got a question for the group-at-large, which I hope
:will be obvious to someone deeply in-the-know.
:I've got a program that opens a VB PDS (RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=2550,LRECL=255).
:But - note that I said it opens
I have defined a new loadlib to our APF member list but am not sure if it is
OK to do an LLA,REFRESH since our LINKLIB has extents. Is it possible?
Thanks,
Desi de la Garza
Systems Programmer
Bexar County Information Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas David Rivers
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:19 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?
Hi John,
snip
So - I suppose - what's
If all you have done is added a file to the APF list, an LLA REFRESH is not
necessary. You will need to do a SET PROG command, however.
Jon
snip
I have defined a new loadlib to our APF member list but am not sure if it is
OK to do an LLA,REFRESH since our LINKLIB has extents. Is it possible?
If the loadlib has been added to JUST APF, then there is no need to do
anything with LLA.
If the loadlib is LLA-managed, then an LLA,UPDATE is less disruptive
than LLA,REFRESH.
I'm not clear what you mean by our LINKLIB has extents. Did a library
in linklist go into extents after IPL?
Don
Hi
I just looked at SMPE 3.4 and it requires IBM SDK for z/OS, Java 2
Technology Edition, Version 1.4 to receive maintenance from the server.
Was it supposed to include with my server pack order or was I supposed to
know to order it. Either way I don't have it. I hope it's free!
You could trying getting the FMT1DSCB for the data set and looking at the
organization.
Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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04/24/2006 03:18 PM
Please respond to
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
To
In a recent note, Thomas David Rivers said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:18:39 -0400
So - I suppose - what's the best way to ask Hey - is this at
all a reasonable thing to be trying a VB-read on?
My inclination would be to verify:
o DSORG != PO in the DCB after OPEN. (But DON'T
Use DYNALLOC Information Retrieval for the DSORG.
From: Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:18:39 -0400
Hi John,
Yeah... I
In a message dated 4/24/2006 1:41:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've got a program that opens a VB PDS (RECFM=VB,BLKSIZE=2550,LRECL=255).
But - note that I said it opens the PDS, not a member of the PDS. That
open succeeds, and presumably, the program will
Hi Binyamin!
That would work.. the program could avoid even trying the OPEN.
In this case, the OPEN succeeds... and then the subsequent READ (BSAM)
gets some bytes, but they aren't valid...
I tried looking at DCBDSORG after the OPEN, but it has the value
DCBDSGPS (Physical Sequential),
I have defined a new loadlib to our APF member list but am not sure if it is
OK to do an LLA,REFRESH since our LINKLIB has extents. Is it possible?
Extents are irrelevent, except where you end up with more than 255 of them.
Each library counts as at least one.
PDSE's count as only one,
Cathy,
You ask why do MLA? It's not my call, the Storage group is the one
calling this one as they own all the usercats. I've read the quote
you mention, in fact I had already sent them the same quote a few weeks
ago. I don't know that it is a bad thing. One of the reasons I believe
they are
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:42:53 -0400 Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
: That would work.. the program could avoid even trying the OPEN.
Get the JFCB, use it (DSNAME + VOLUME) to read the DSCB.
The DSCB will indicate whether it is a PDS and what its recorded RECFM and
LRECL are. The
Great tips -- thanks all.
Using RMF screens (which I have access to) and looking over someone's
shoulder for WLM screen's (which I don't have access to) I found that my
assumptions were basically correct, but that I was looking at the wrong
thing.
Our production DDF thread rules are:
1 SI
In a recent note, Binyamin Dissen said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:52:21 +0300
Get the JFCB, use it (DSNAME + VOLUME) to read the DSCB.
I very much deplore it when people do that, then treat any
unexpected result as a failure. It's an unwarranted flouting
of the OS/360 I/O
Hi Bill...
Well - yes - you've hit the nail on the head - the routines are very
confused because they are expecting to see VB-type records (with a BDW
and RDW) and they are not.
The program uses BSAM I/O.
The issue here is that the program expects to not be directed to a PDS,
and when
George Bly wrote:
I just looked at SMPE 3.4 and it requires IBM SDK for z/OS, Java 2
Technology Edition, Version 1.4 to receive maintenance from the server.
Was it supposed to include with my server pack order or was I supposed to
know to order it. Either way I don't have it. I hope it's
Thomas David Rivers wrote:
Hi Bill...
Well - yes - you've hit the nail on the head - the routines are very
confused because they are expecting to see VB-type records (with a BDW
and RDW) and they are not.
The program uses BSAM I/O.
The issue here is that the program expects to not be
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:06:11 -0600 Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:In a recent note, Binyamin Dissen said:
: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:52:21 +0300
: Get the JFCB, use it (DSNAME + VOLUME) to read the DSCB.
:I very much deplore it when people do that, then treat any
In a recent note, Thomas David Rivers said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:11:15 -0400
Someone else suggested using DYNALLOC to query the organization
of the file before the OPEN... is there a way to accomplish
this after the OPEN?
I would expect DYNALLOC IR to work equally well
In a message dated 4/24/2006 3:12:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I'm looking for is some way for the program to say Hey! This
isn't a sequentional VB file at all.
Make sure the DCB in the program does not specify the file organization.
Then that field
On May 30, 2005, Antonio Fonseca wrote:
I'm looking at ICETOOL for displaying SMF71 records and for
the majority of the fields it works OK. But...
Is there a way to process the floating fields (like the
high-medium-low impact central storage frames...) in ICETOOL
or it is necessary to make a
Your inclinations assume that:
(a) DCBDSORG will change during OPEN, and
(b) the data will appear in his program without an error.
I don't believe (a) ever happens.
I think he already has the error before he sees the data.
From: Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe
I haven't tried it, but after attending Mark Thomen's Best Practices for
Catalog and VSAM session (3057) at Seattle SHARE, I'm seriously considering it.
The handout is on the SHARE web site.
Bob
Jousma, David wrote:
I think the push is to
separate test from production in the catalog
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/24/2006
04:11:15 PM:
The issue here is that the program expects to not be directed to a PDS,
and when that accidently happens - things go, as you mention,
alarmingly wrong.
What I'm looking for is some way for the program to say
John,
Permit me to vent for a moment. This has been one of my pet-peeves for
a while. I've placed many Servpac orders over the years, and one thing
I wish IBM would do, is somehow distinquish no-charge products from the
others when ordering on ShopZ. Another is the XML-toolkit. I order
In a recent note, J R said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:24:54 -0400
Your inclinations assume that:
(a) DCBDSORG will change during OPEN, and
I don't believe (a) ever happens.
I certainly did assume that. Have I misunderstood the
following:
Title: z/OS V1R5.0 DFSMS: Using
Matthew Webber wrote:
Steve,
I appreciated the humour, but some spam filters may not. Consider posting
without embedded text that may result in the message not being seen
by some
folks.
FWIW
Hmmm. Perhaps you're right. OK, here's the squeaky clean version:
Announcing the availabliity of
Please do not laugh.
My management is asking me how much overhead is consumed by z/OS for
processing the SMF records. I have no idea. Has anyone ever researched this
and can share some info on it.
Thanks in advance.
Joel Wolpert
Director - Performance and Capacity Planning
Shared Data Center
In a recent note, Darren Evans-Young said:
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:18:20 -0500
Personally, I don't care, but I am getting flooded with rejections
from all the content analyzers (Mail Marshall, etc.). If it happens
again, I will put the offender on NOPOST and forward all these
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:09:30 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
In lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;, on 04/24/2006
at 02:26 AM, Chris Mason lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; said:
gt;I think the text you found logically, if not chronologically,
gt;precedes the introduction of the type 2.1
In a message dated 4/24/2006 3:54:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My management is asking me how much overhead is consumed by z/OS for
processing the SMF records. I have no idea. Has anyone ever researched this
and can share some info on it.
PHB's say the
I may be wrong but I thought that DSORG
was not optional on the DCB macro.
From: Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:40:33 -0600
Hi again Bill...
Yeah - that's a good idea... But - I don't think I'm communicating
something right...
But - in this case, the user specified a file name. OPEN filled in the
DCBRECFM, etc... and the program went merrily on its way trying to
do what the DCB said would work...
This would
My management is asking me how much overhead is consumed by z/OS for
processing the SMF records.
Producing SMF records is the cost.
Presenting them to SMF and having the task write them out is cheap.
Because it's asynchronous.
Move SMF down in importance and you won't suffer.
The records will
J R wrote:
I may be wrong but I thought that DSORG
was not optional on the DCB macro.
RECFM is optional.
--
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
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Los Angeles, CA 90045
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Thanks. This is good info. Does this mean that if I measure the CPU usage
of the SMF address space I will be able to approximate the CPU overhead?
In a message dated 4/24/2006 4:01:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My management is asking me how much overhead is consumed by z/OS for
processing the SMF records. I have no idea. Has anyone ever researched this
and can share some info on it.
The eternal correct
In a message dated 4/24/2006 4:12:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does this mean that if I measure the CPU usage
of the SMF address space I will be able to approximate the CPU overhead?
No. The greatest part of the overhead is in creating them, and this takes
Are they asking about the overhead of collecting them, and/or the overhead
of processing them to
derive useful information - or hadn't they thought of that.
Please do not laugh.
My management is asking me how much overhead is consumed by z/OS for
processing the SMF records. I have no idea.
They are asking about the overhead of collecting them. I know how to
measure the overhead of processing them.
Thanks.
In a message dated 4/24/2006 4:05:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So far, it seems the only way to do that is to get the JFCB, etc...
My first inclination was to answer the same way, since I did that many
decades ago. But that approach may not work now for due
Does this mean that if I measure the CPU usage
of the SMF address space I will be able to approximate the CPU overhead?
No!
Most of the overhead is in the sub-systems producing the records.
CMF, DB2, NPM, SILO, RMF, JES2, etc.
SMF actually writing them is cheap.
-
-teD
O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS!
Code DINRTORG to request the return of the data set organization (DSORG) of
the specified resource.
Code DINRTMEM to request the return of the member name associated with the
specified allocation.
By getting this information *before* OPEN you should be able to set up your
DCB appropriately.
Sorry, Gil, but I have to disagree with you here. I have no say over
the spam/porn/naughty word filter in use here, nor do I know whether or
not the filter sent a nasty-gram back to Darren or if the filter simply
dropped the offending messages. I didn't even know there was a problem
until
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 12:18 -0500, Darren Evans-Young wrote:
Please refrain from using words in your posts that may be
deemed offensive or inappropriate. ...like the one just recently posted.
How is one to judge - see a recent advertising campaign by an agency of
the federal government of this
How is one to judge - see a recent advertising campaign by an agency of
the federal government of this country.
Would such usage qualify ???.
*extremely* common usage here.
I got slammed once for using a real vile word when I hadn't.
I was discussing British soccer and I mentioned a team.
The
Please do not laugh.
Ok. My lips are contorted into a strange shape like a chortle in
progress, but I swear I am not laughing. Well, ok, maybe just a little.
My management is asking me how much overhead is consumed by z/OS for
processing the SMF records. I have no idea. Has anyone ever
Don't forget to add in the cost of the periodic IFASMDFP jobs that copy
the SMF data from the SYS1.MANx datasets
I make those IMP=5.
The cost is nothing, since I bought the machine for other work.
IFASMFDP fills in the valleys that would not be used if they weren't there!
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-teD
O-KAY! BLUE!
In a recent note, Shane said:
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:38:25 +1000
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 12:18 -0500, Darren Evans-Young wrote:
Please refrain from using words in your posts that may be
deemed offensive or inappropriate. ...like the one just recently posted.
How is one to
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