Analysts squash rumors of 150,000 IBM layoffs

2007-05-10 Thread Phil Payne
Hmmm... This sounds a lot like Phil Payne's take on the situation ... Perhaps they read IBM-MAIN. You heard it here first, and free. Not for the first time, and probably not for the last, I recommend John Allen Paulos' excellent little book: Innumeracy - Mathematical Illiteracy and its

Re: Analysts squash rumors of 150,000 IBM layoffs

2007-05-10 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 09:22 +0100, Phil Payne wrote: On another subject - did you see that IBM and Amazon have settled? Wanna take a bet that Amazon got a sweetheart deal to get the case off the table and clear the way for the PSI issue? $1 damages? Anyone else detect a whiff of

CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread David Eisenberg
Anyone, I have inherited responsibility for a CLIST; this is not my forte. I'm trying to do something pertaining to the ampersand character, and despite my efforts, I cannot figure this out. As God is my witness, this is not a homework assignment (I'm a BAL programmer, not a sysprog). I've

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread David Eisenberg
Follow up to my original post: the ampersands seem to have nailed me even in my previous message. To clarify (I hope this shows up correctly): if the user enters ABC the CLIST should produce amp;OPTA amp;OPTB amp;OPTC I.e., two ampersand characters concatenated to the relevant string (e.g.,

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On 5/9/2007 9:50 PM, David E. wrote: I have inherited responsibility for a CLIST; this is not my forte. I'm trying to do something pertaining to the ampersand character, and despite my efforts, I cannot figure this out. As God is my witness, this is not a homework assignment (I'm a BAL

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread David Eisenberg
So, as you want 2 ampersands you need to use 4, and thus I suggest trying: IF SUBSTR(K,L)=A THEN SET X=STR(X) amp;amp;OPTA ELSE IF SUBSTR(K,L)=B THEN SET X=STR(amp;X) amp;amp;OPTB ELSE IF SUBSTR(K,L)=C THEN SET X=STR(amp;X) amp;amp;OPTC I've tried things like that; it is absolutely not

zOS 1.6 on z9BC

2007-05-10 Thread Sebastian Welton
An old customer has just called saying they're buying a z9BC, upgrading from a z890 and could I pop along to move them over. They're currently running zOS 1.6 (guest of zVM with other VSE and zLinux guests) and would preferably like to stay on the 1.6 system. I know that since I installed it a

Re: zOS 1.6 on z9BC

2007-05-10 Thread Bob Shannon
After reading the literature it seems that 1.6 is okay to go on the z9BC, all I would have to do is install the 2096DEVICE PSP. Am I correct in this thinking? Or should I do my utmost to convince them to go 1.8 for peace of mind? You should be fine by applying the PSP. However, since 1.6 goes off

Re: zOS 1.6 on z9BC

2007-05-10 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 06:54 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote: You should be fine by applying the PSP. However, since 1.6 goes off support 9/30/2007, I would encourage them to upgrade to 1.8 ASAP after migrating to the z9. Seems mighty sound advice to me. +1 Shane ...

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Comstock
David Eisenberg wrote: [excerpts from original post: WRITENR === READ L DO K=1 TO LENGTH(L) IF SUBSTR(K,L)=A THEN SET X=X OPTA ELSE IF SUBSTR(K,L)=B THEN SET X=X OPTB ELSE IF SUBSTR(K,L)=C THEN SET X=X OPTC END WRITE X . . . The problem: I want each of the tokens in the generated string

RES: How to measure actual usage of BLSR buffers?

2007-05-10 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Maybe there is a way to measuse. It's not acurate, actually it's quite vague but you can have an idea of consume. There is a IEFACTRT exit (present at cbttape in file 311) that builds several statistics, including storage above and below, I/O by ddname and others. Atenciosamente / Regards /

Re: 3270 to Telnet???

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/09/2007 at 08:31 AM, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We have a lot of users that use TPX at my site to access our VM systems, in addition to our MVS on-line applications. Our VM sysprogs would like to get rid of VM-VTAM because it is very expensive. Is

Re: How difficult would it be for a SYSPROG ? (was RE: Mainframe Data Center Permanant Shutdown Procedure Needed)

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/08/2007 at 12:39 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BTW: I was NetWare admin in 1995, AFAIK there was no z/OS, no even OS/390, but MVS 5 in those days. There was no MVS 5; There were various versions of MVS/SP, with an eventual name change to MVS/ESA but retaining

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/09/2007 at 11:09 AM, Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That's a bit harsh. I has two exceptional SEs, one in the early 1980s and one in the late 1980s-early 1990s. It may depend on the size of the shop. My experience at a small shop was that they came untrained

Re: CCSID 1252 Code Page Error

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/09/2007 at 08:41 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Somebody thinks it may be a windows code page and causing problems with windows talking to the mainframe, but while that doesn't make total sense to me, it's the only information we have. It may not make

Re: VLF on z/OS 1.8

2007-05-10 Thread Casey Rhodes
We have also seen this and opened an ETR with IBM. We were pointed to OA20748. If I remember correctly it was on a 1.7 system. The APAR points to 1K0. I believe that is 1.7. We have not seen this on a 1.8 system as of yet. --

JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
We are running z/OS V1.7 Simple question. If I start JES2 with PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that will cold start the Checkpoint and not format the Spool spaces. Then after that finishes do I still need to format the Spool Space or will just cold starting the Checkpoint be sufficient? Or does that

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
I believe there a choice here for CLIST. That is NRSTR rather than STR. If you look in the TSO/E CLIST manual you will find a section on Preserving the Double Ampersand. I seem to recall that there is another function in CLIST that controls the number of times a variable is interpreted, but I

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Chicklon, Tom
I'm not sure this is that much of an issue anymore. Years ago, in a prior life, probably while running MVS/XA, our DR plan called for allocating only one spool volume before the first IPL because the format during the cold start took such a long time. After the IPL, we would allocate the rest of

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler We are running z/OS V1.7 Simple question. If I start JES2 with PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that will cold start the Checkpoint and not format the Spool spaces. Then after that finishes do I

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On 5/10/2007 6:22 AM, David Eisenberg wrote: So, as you want 2 ampersands you need to use 4, and thus I suggest trying: IF SUBSTR(K,L)=A THEN SET X=STR(X) amp;amp;OPTA ELSE IF SUBSTR(K,L)=B THEN SET X=STR(amp;X) amp;amp;OPTB ELSE IF SUBSTR(K,L)=C THEN SET X=STR(amp;X) amp;amp;OPTC

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 May 2007 05:22:53 -0500, David Eisenberg wrote: ELSE IF SUBSTR(K,L)=C THEN SET X=STR(amp;amp;X) amp;amp;amp;amp;OPTC ^ ^^^ Darren, is this a bug in entity conversion by LISTSERV, or did did the submitter post it that way?

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Ah, all good points. But my query is now leaning towards having a clean spool at DR without the headaches. So is my assumption correct? If the checkpoint/spool space that is restored from Full Volume Dumps has a S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that JES2 would invoke a MINI format (QUICK Format) rather

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Lizette Koehler wrote: I believe there a choice here for CLIST. That is NRSTR rather than STR. If you look in the TSO/E CLIST manual you will find a section on Preserving the Double Ampersand. NRSTR prevents more than one level of substitution on a variable; STR prevents evaluation of

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:50:34 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is my assumption correct? If the checkpoint/spool space that is restored from Full Volume Dumps has a S JES2,PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that JES2 would invoke a MINI format (QUICK Format) rather than a full blown format

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread David Eisenberg
NRSTR did the trick! Thank you so much, everyone!!! David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Chicklon, Tom
I think you are going to need someone who restores their spool volumes at DR to answer this one. We just INIT the volumes and allocate the spool space from the DR floor system while the other restore jobs are running; we don't restore the spool volumes. Tom Chicklon

Re: $HASP443 message

2007-05-10 Thread Petersen, Jim
Thanks to all who responded. I will voice my opinion when I get access to the JES2 SHARE Requirements Database. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:

LOGREC Viewer V1.1

2007-05-10 Thread Petersen, Jim
I have sent a note to the author of this wonderful utility about a problem I am having but thought maybe someone on IBM-Main might have experienced it as well. There is a line on the LOGPRIM panel I am not seeing when I run the Viewer. Select LOGREC archive data sets. . . N (N/Y) I can

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Gregory, Gary G
TRIVIA: back in the 70's and 80's Texas state law prevented someone using the title of Engineer unless they were licensed by the state. So, our IBM SE's had the title of Systems Representative on their business cards. Gary Garland Gregory, MS CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1-214-473-1863

ISR only with SW contract

2007-05-10 Thread Walter Marguccio
Hello list, I have been told that the new Internet Service Retrieval feature available with SMP/E 3.4 is tied to the SW support contract with IBM (in Europe it's called 'Comfort Line'). In other words, no SW support contract, no ISR. Anyone heard this ? It sounds VERY strange to me... TIA.

Re: zOS 1.6 on z9BC

2007-05-10 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Welton Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: zOS 1.6 on z9BC An old customer has just called saying they're buying a z9BC, upgrading from a

Re: zOS 1.6 on z9BC

2007-05-10 Thread Mark
Sebastian Welton wrote: An old customer has just called saying they're buying a z9BC, upgrading from a z890 and could I pop along to move them over. They're currently running zOS 1.6 (guest of zVM with other VSE and zLinux guests) and would preferably like to stay on the 1.6 system. I know that

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Hal Merritt
Yea, I never have figured out why DASD folks love doing volume restores only to reformat the volume. I guess it might be easier that trying to keep track of all those allocation jobs. My experience with six 3390-3 volumes is just a couple of minutes to cold start. JES runs much faster right

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Howard Brazee
On Thu, 10 May 2007 07:48:19 -0400, Dan Espen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take my advice. Change the CLIST to REXX. It's not all that hard. There is a rexx equivalent for every CLIST operation and the bulk of the conversion is rote. You'll be happy you did. Rexx is much closer to the type of

Re: zOS 1.6 on z9BC

2007-05-10 Thread Salway, Nigel
We migrated to a z9BC running z\OS 1.4. In our case, we applied the PSP bucket service and the conversion went well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks, That answers the question. Lizette Yea, I never have figured out why DASD folks love doing volume restores only to reformat the volume. I guess it might be easier that trying to keep track of all those allocation jobs. My experience with six 3390-3 volumes is just a couple of minutes to

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 May 2007 08:10:02 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007 07:48:19 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: Take my advice. Change the CLIST to REXX. It's not all that hard. There is a rexx equivalent for every CLIST operation and the bulk of the conversion is rote. You'll be happy you did.

Re: Where did the term clip come from?

2007-05-10 Thread John Eells
The IBM Jargon Dictionary confirms my recollection that it came from Change Label Information Program. http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf Of course, we use ICKDSF nowadays. Bruce McKnight wrote: Greetings all, Does anyone know where the term clip came from? snip -- John Eells z/OS

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Tim Cardozo
I have inherited responsibility for a CLIST; this is not my forte. I'm trying to do something pertaining to the ampersand character, and despite my efforts, I cannot figure this out. As God is my witness, this is not a homework assignment (I'm a BAL programmer, not a sysprog). I've carved

ASCB question

2007-05-10 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
I have a REXX program that scans through the ASCBs to collect information about active STCs, JOBs, etc. It appears the address of a started task name is located in the storage pointed to by the ASCBJBNS field. If ASCBJBNS is zero, then I check to see if it is an initiated job by reading in

Re: LOGREC Viewer V1.1

2007-05-10 Thread Jousma, David
Actually the field is there, you can tab to it. It defaults to non-display, and only gets changed when a variable gets set. For which I have not seen how or why that gets changed. Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL

Re: LOGREC Viewer V1.1

2007-05-10 Thread Jousma, David
Upon further review, the variable IFDS only gets set if you are doing DASD-ONLY logging. If mode=LOGSTREAM the variable does not get set, and the field remains non-dsplayed. This was found in the REXX code of LOGRPRT, Dave Dave Jousma

Re: Where did the term clip come from?

2007-05-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Eells The IBM Jargon Dictionary confirms my recollection that it came from Change Label Information Program. http://www.comlay.net/ibmjarg.pdf Neat book! Here's one from there of possible interest to Bill

Re: ASCB question

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Bielskie, Stephen wrote: I have a REXX program that scans through the ASCBs to collect information about active STCs, JOBs, etc. It appears the address of a started task name is located in the storage pointed to by the ASCBJBNS field. If ASCBJBNS is zero, then I check to see if it is an

IBM loses employee data

2007-05-10 Thread Duane Reaugh
If you work for IBM and have worked for IBM in the past, you might want to look at this URL http://www-1.ibm.com/afteribm/us/inquire.shtml It appears a vendor lost some tapes containing IBM employee data with things like SSN, DOB, Address. The tapes were not encrypted. Maybe IBM should look

Re: ASCB question

2007-05-10 Thread Rob Scott
See the OUCBOMVS bit setting in the OUCB. ASCBOUCB points to the OUCB Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g2 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Can FRR prevent ESTAE from seeing registers?

2007-05-10 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
Greetings, I have an FRR that erases sensitive material from storage areas before it percolates an ABEND. I also want to erase the registers so that any ESTAE that may get subsequent control cannot see the error-time registers. I want the ESTAE to see zeroes in its SDWA. The error-time registers

Re: DFSORT Numeric Field Testing Problem

2007-05-10 Thread Frank Yaeger
On May 10, 5:32 am, OppThumb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be a simple syntax problem, but then again, maybe not. I'm trying to create a sort that will include only numeric values (in display format) in the sorting field. Here are my control cards, complete with error message:

Re: LOGREC Viewer V1.1

2007-05-10 Thread Petersen, Jim
Thank you so much. That did it. I really appreciate you responding. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512-977-2615 direct

Re: DFSORT Numeric Field Testing Problem

2007-05-10 Thread CICS Guy
FWIW, I don't see FS or NUM in my Syncsort manual... *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* SYSIN : SORT FIELDS=(1,20,FS,A) INCLUDE COND=(1,20,FS,EQ,NUM) * SUM FIELDS=NONE WER268A INCLUDE STATEMENT : SYNTAX ERROR

Re: jcl.

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/08/2007 at 08:52 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't think so. The date at which the DEFINE occurs and the system upon which it occurs is known at the time of the DEFINE. Those are not what LOCATE uses to resolve the name. LOCATE uses the variable

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/10/2007 at 03:36 AM, David Eisenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have inherited responsibility for a CLIST; this is not my forte. I'm trying to do something pertaining to the ampersand character, and despite my efforts, I cannot figure this out. As God is my

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/08/2007 at 07:10 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you punish success, who will take the risks? How is punishing success worse than rewarding failure, which is what we currently do for high-profile CEO's? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/08/2007 at 09:04 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why would you, as a stockholder, want to hire somebody you *know* will leave you broke? The BOD doesn't consult with the stockholders when selecting a CEO. Stockholder suits asking for a more direct roles in

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/08/2007 at 09:08 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Oh, yeas, there are such regulators! In your imagination. Invented by Marx, Engels, implemented by Lenin, tuned by Stalin. Get your red herrings while they're fresh. Been there. Where you've been has nothing to

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/09/2007 at 11:43 AM, Dave Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The Elites I'm talking about are the fictitious few who would decide on who gets what in the context of the post I was replying to. The elites that should decide such matters are the stockholders. Board

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/09/2007 at 09:09 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am not sure I agree with you at all on this one. Of course I look at it a little differently than a typical GI. My bosses were GS12's 13's and 14's and I think I had a GS 15 who was their boss. My limited

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/09/2007 at 03:13 PM, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Interesting! I had a similar experience my second day in that 'tropical climate'. Someone was cleaning a machine gun on the table across from me and almost shot my guts out when he pulled the trigger

Re: Measuring Use of BLSR Buffers

2007-05-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/09/2007 at 11:13 AM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At my last job we asked the outsourcer to implement extended format on our 'test' VSAM datasets. He implemented for all VSAM datasets. No change-control process? -- Shmuel

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Bruce Black
In some states the abuse of the term 'engineer' in a job title was met with the legislated requirement that said person indeed be a licensed engineer. Either you had demonstrated engineering training skills or you knew how to drive the trains. Nothing else was tolerated. Here in NJ, a

Re: SMS Question

2007-05-10 Thread Bruce Black
The change you made was to an SCDS. SMS operates from an ACDS. You need an activate to copy from the former to the latter. The validate is for peace of mind/job security/proof reading/etc. I think that SMS requires that a SCDS be validated before it can be activated. -- Bruce A. Black

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Perhaps IBM should be using the IBM Hardware Encyption Tape Drives (TS1120)? I think IBM makes them. Lizette Or the product I work on; CA Tape Encryption. If you work for IBM and have worked for IBM in the past, you might want to look at this URL

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On 5/10/2007 11:58 AM, Duane Reaugh wrote: The tapes were not encrypted. Maybe IBM should look into a product like FDRcrypt from Innovation. I would hope that rather than using someone else's, IBM would use its own encryption facilities (e.g., Encryption Facility for z/OS) or its encrypting

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-10 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Why couldn't they have lost billing data instead ...? This is Chris Hoelscher and I approved this message! Chris Hoelscher Senior IDMS DB2 Database Administrator Humana Inc 502-476-2538 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which

Re: ASCB question

2007-05-10 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Thanks Rob and Steve. Most helpful. Regards, Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ASCB question See the OUCBOMVS bit setting in the

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
snip When I was in basic, cleaning a firearm without examining it properly to ensure that it was fully unloaded would have gotten me a boot in my behind. Doing it on the range would have gotten me an Article 15 at best. Was there any disciplinary action in your case? /snip No, there wasn't any

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Howard Brazee
On 10 May 2007 09:19:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Black) wrote: She proposed a certification exam, but she obviously had no concept of the breadth of specialties among programmers.\ Luckily, cooler heads prevailed and the bill was trashed. I wonder if anybody in Personnel knows what the

Re: Can FRR prevent ESTAE from seeing registers?

2007-05-10 Thread Craddock, Chris
I have an FRR that erases sensitive material from storage areas before it percolates an ABEND. I also want to erase the registers so that any ESTAE that may get subsequent control cannot see the error-time registers. I want the ESTAE to see zeroes in its SDWA. The error-time registers may

Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Patrick Lyon
List - I am having a terrible time finding an AMS messages and codes manual. Didn't they incorporate that with SMS way back when? We have a batch COBOL job that gets a return code of 90 when it attempts to write a record to a VSAM file. The user indicates a 90 as an unknown error. I would

Re: Can FRR prevent ESTAE from seeing registers?

2007-05-10 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Can FRR prevent ESTAE from seeing registers? I have an FRR that erases sensitive material from

Re: Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Comstock
Patrick Lyon wrote: List - I am having a terrible time finding an AMS messages and codes manual. Didn't they incorporate that with SMS way back when? We have a batch COBOL job that gets a return code of 90 when it attempts to write a record to a VSAM file. The user indicates a 90 as an

Re: Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Larry Crilley
You should have received an IDC3351I message that would document the I/O return and reason codes. Larry Crilley Dino Software Corp. Home of REORGadon: The world's first REORG While-OPEN tool for HSM http://www.dino-software.com/ 412.366.3566 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Kirk Talman
If you have QW, do QW STATUS. +---+--+---+-| | 9 | Implementor- | 0 | 1. For multithreading only: A CLOSE | | | defined | | of a VSAM or QSAM file was | | | condition| |

Re: Can FRR prevent ESTAE from seeing registers?

2007-05-10 Thread Craddock, Chris
Sigh... I am writing a service routine called by clients that must not see the error-time registers. The SDWA is completely reallocated for the transition between FRR and ESTAE processing, with only the SDWACOMU copied to the new SDWA from the old SDWA. However, the client won't care about

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Makes me wish there was a certification test required to run for public office! Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent:

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread R.S.
Gregory, Gary G wrote: TRIVIA: back in the 70's and 80's Texas state law prevented someone using the title of Engineer unless they were licensed by the state. So, our IBM SE's had the title of Systems Representative on their business cards. It still takes a place in Europe. Engineer is a

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-10 Thread Chicklon, Tom
As a former IBM employee, I fail to see the humor in any of this. I would have hoped that they would have used these BEFORE the data was lost... Tom Chicklon -- The tapes were not encrypted. Maybe IBM should look into a product like FDRcrypt from

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-10 Thread Taylor, Clarence B
But if you do after the data is lost, the cpu savings would be tremendous Brad Taylor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chicklon, Tom Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM loses

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Tim Hare
Wayne Driscoll wrote: Makes me wish there was a certification test required to run for public office! Why? We all know that those guys are certifiable! Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209

Re: Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Jack Kelly
snip COBOL job that gets a return code of 90 when it attempts to write a record to a VSAM file. snip generally all of vsam rc are explained in msgIDC3009I. RC90 (delete error) doesn't seem to make much sense unless it's the application's RC not vsam's. Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x

Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Howard Brazee
On 10 May 2007 10:52:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) wrote: It still takes a place in Europe. Engineer is a title assigned by technical univeristy to a graduate. In Poland (and not only) only government-approved organizations can be named university (or polytechnic) and only those schools

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
By full volume dump do you mean full track dump of all tracks? On my 2.10 system, a vanilla DSS full volume dump only dumps the used portions of datasets. Since JES never sets the high water mark for spool datasets, my spool packs dump pretty quickly. I've never restored one but in this case I

DSS EXCP counts

2007-05-10 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Can someone give me a hint why the EXCP count for a full volume dump for an unchanged volume would occasionally vary by ~400 between one execution and the next. I run a set of jobs weekly to dump just my system packs to tape using DFDSS. Several of the packs, such as the DLIB volumes, haven't

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread David Eisenberg
I doubt it; in fact, I doubt that you're old enough to have ever seen BAL. And you're certainly not using it on z/OS. I appreciate the CLIST information you provided in your post, but I don't understand why you have accused me of being a liar when I came here for help. This is the first time

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [ snip ] Effects: In Albania salary of minister was 2.5 times larger than cleaning lady. ROTF,LMAO! The nominal salary and the real salary were quite different. Party bosses lived

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Mark Jacobs
Chase, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [ snip ] Effects: In Albania salary of minister was 2.5 times larger than cleaning lady. ROTF,LMAO! The nominal salary and the real salary were quite

OEM software electronic download report card

2007-05-10 Thread Pinnacle
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Re: Help settle a job title/role debate

2007-05-10 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- It may depend on the size of the shop. My experience at a small shop was that they came untrained and IBM transferred them to a more important account once we had taught them enough to be useful. --unsnip--

Re: Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Clark, Kevin
Pat, This takes me back a bit. A 90 was usually an Open Request failure for an empty VSAM file. I believe you get it on a close of an unopened file also. Perhaps return codes from OPEN ACB would be a good start. Kevin --

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/10/2007 2:24:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Explain that! P O W E R! ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Comstock
David Eisenberg wrote: I doubt it; in fact, I doubt that you're old enough to have ever seen BAL. And you're certainly not using it on z/OS. I appreciate the CLIST information you provided in your post, but I don't understand why you have accused me of being a liar when I came here for

Re: CLIST question (the ampersands are killing me)

2007-05-10 Thread David Eisenberg
I think he was picking on BAL because in some contexts that refers to an old Assembler and is therefore not accurate for our context. Right... someone else said the same thing. So I'm a HLASM programmer. But for the record, whatever language it is, I learned it originally in 1980 from the

Is there a Creation Date for Alias?

2007-05-10 Thread Larry Burch
IDCAMS Listcat does not show a Creation Date for an Alias item. I've been trying-out the IGGCSIRX Exec (for Catalog Search Interface) -- but each time I execute it, my os390.210 CATALOG address space produces an SVC dump; and I wouldn't know how (in REXX) to unpack the date field to see if it

EMC-SRDF/A with z/os Sysplex

2007-05-10 Thread Laine, Rogers
We have been using EMC's SRDF/A for almost 12 months now using z/os 1.4 About one month ago we migrated from 1.4 to 1.7 again using SRDF without any problems. This past weekend we put two of the 1.7 LPARS into a SYSLPEX along with GRS. Now we are seeing some programs that do lots of IO running

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-10 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- The civil servants, NCO's, officers and warrant officers that I encountered *after* training were mostly competent, although the paramedics in basic training almost killed me by not allowing me to see a doctor when I had pneumonia[1]. One

Re: Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 10 May 2007 14:15:39 -0400, Jack Kelly wrote: snip COBOL job that gets a return code of 90 when it attempts to write a record to a VSAM file. snip generally all of vsam rc are explained in msgIDC3009I. RC90 (delete error) doesn't seem to make much sense unless it's the application's RC

Re: EMC-SRDF/A with z/os Sysplex

2007-05-10 Thread Field, Alan C.
Rogers, I don't know but we have just completed an upgrade using SRDF to get the data off the old and onto the new EMC box. Some LPARs were at 1.6, some at 1.8. For the week we ran that way our performance guy got some very elongated times and the graphs have a very definite peak for the week.

Re: JES2 at DR

2007-05-10 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- We are running z/OS V1.7 Simple question. If I start JES2 with PARM='COLD,NOFMT' that will cold start the Checkpoint and not format the Spool spaces. Then after that finishes do I still need to format the Spool Space or will just cold

Re: EMC-SRDF/A with z/os Sysplex

2007-05-10 Thread Laine, Rogers
Alan, We understand the performance impact when migrating data from on box to another. What we are doing is over a remote circuit, but the impact is after all data has been moved and now only the changed data is being moved, then the slow downs occurs. I'll be surprised if I get an real answer

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