Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8 The only time that I would ever advise two steps is when you have not yet moved your OS/390

RACF Presentations

2007-05-04 Thread Jacky Bright
Anyone having PPTs on RACF do forward me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Teaching RACF to fresh guys is really frustrating job which I'll hav to do .. as part of knowledge sharing session ... Guys give me some tips ..on this . If any of you hav dne tht then do forward me those presentations ..or

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
Gabriel, Does your employer court/train young professionals for mainframe careers? Yes, there are a few trainees with the mainframe departments. Do you work with younger colleagues? Is there a generation gap or is there solidarity within mainframes? Yes, aforementioned trainees and former

Re: ftp of exclusively used Member

2007-05-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Josef Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... If someone uses a member exclusively in edit mode and someone needs access on it with ftp, ftp ends with following message: EZA2563W Data set xy used exclusively by someone else Is there a possible option in ftp to get

Re: Bad NVR for PDSE

2007-05-04 Thread Philippe Leite
On Thu, 3 May 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Betsy Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a PDSE that has it's NVR in one catalog and it's catalog entry in a different one. And, of course, the dataset is SMS managed. Argh. Please don't ask how it happened, I do not know. I have been trying in vain

Re: Mainframe Data Center Permanant Shutdown Procedure Needed

2007-05-04 Thread Ron Hawkins
Eric, If William or you are using HDS disk arrays then you may want to look at using Cross-OS File Exchange (some of you may know this as Rapid Exchange). In simple terms you can share your MVS volumes with UNIX and Windows servers so that MVS flat files can be read directly by the Open Systems

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread B Sysprog
We got there in two steps -- OS/390 R10 to z/OS R6 last year; to z/OSR8 this year. No issues. BK Kosmach From: John Mattson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8 Date: Thu,

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Doug Fuerst
The problem I think with this is if we take this job, admittedly better than unemployment, then other employers get the idea that the market is now that salary. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I was making 100K for doing a job, teachers were making a top salary of 60K and cops

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread R.S.
Rick Fochtman wrote: ---snip--- Many of us have decried jobs being exported overseas. Here is one in the US that pays a decent wage. I agree this position is paying lower than the norm for our profession, but is is still a decent wage. Many

Re: Mainframe Data Center Permanant Shutdown Procedure Needed

2007-05-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Ron, The z/OS datacenter at PH Mining was shut down at the end of March 2006. Both the CPU and the DASD went back to their respective vendors. We had Hitachi Dasd - a 1 TB Lightning box. I don't think anyone thought of hooking up that dasd to Unix boxes, but its been gone for over a year.

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Brian, I post my phone number for most of my posts. I have never to my knowledge had a crank call from posting it here. I think the only thing that gets harvested from a group like this is email addresses, which Darren has pretty well fixed. I have on occasion gotten calls from people on

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I have followed this discussion with great interest, as I am still looking for a job. As I probably mentioned in the past, my first choice would be to find a sysprog job in Milwaukee. The thought of moving somewhere and taking a huge pay cut, and then it's not being a permanent job just turns me

Re: Bad NVR for PDSE

2007-05-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 May 2007 07:05:56 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else a little concerned at all this ???. There have been various rumblings about the Catalog code since 1.7 came out. Flaky is a term that comes to mind. I happen to be a bit sensitive to the state of our catalogs - and the

BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Johnny Luo
Hi, I'm learning QSAM and I found one strange(to me) behaviour of BLKSIZE parameter. It's a very simple program: . OPEN (INVMAST,INPUT) GET INVMAST CLO CLOSE (INVMAST) . INVMAST DCB DDNAME=INVMAST,DSORG=PS,MACRF=GL,EODAD=CLO,BLKSIZE=32750

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Staller, Allan
The supported migration paths are in the 'n-3' (now n-2) are that way because that is the level IBM has determined for coexistence and fallback. i.e. JES, CATALOGS, RACF, etc. can be shared with no ill effects. Outside of the migration range (N-3 or N-2) there *IS NO COEXISTENCE or FALLBACK the

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Joel Ivey
Interesting thread. Then there are those of us who have indeed accepted the lower-paying sysprog jobs in hopes/expectations that the lower salary would be rectified to a higher one as a result of hard work. Ooops. Welcome to state government where merit raises are a thing of the past.I was

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
The blocksize parameter tells QSAM the maximum size of the blocks to be read or written. But since there are only four records in the dataset, the physical blocksize (on DASD) is 200 since QSAM does not pad. By overriding the value to 200-32750 you are instructing QSAM as to the maximum size -

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2007 at 11:12 AM, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Instead of trolling for nuggets why don't you use zoomerang and do a professional survey? What is a professional survey and why do you believe that it is more appropriate than an on-topic query to fora where

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Joel wrote: In five years, I've received one merit increase, while every year receiving excellent reviews -- there is no cause and effect. COLAs are the only help we get. I am also working for a US company, and quite frankly, we were told that the overall performance of our section of the

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/4/2007 7:54:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a professional survey and why do you believe that it is more appropriate than an on-topic query to fora where mainframers hang out? $$$'s vs drool of pedantic old poots

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Johnny Luo
Thanks, Binyamin. I have two extra questions after reading your reply. Sorry for my ignorance. The first is what actually determines the physical blocksize? You told me BLKSIZE parm is a maxmimum value for QSAM. So I guess if I write 105 records to a data set with BLKSIZE=20, I'll get five

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 4 May 2007 22:11:08 +0800 Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :The first is what actually determines the physical blocksize? You told me :BLKSIZE parm is a maxmimum value for QSAM. So I guess if I write 105 records :to a data set with BLKSIZE=20, I'll get five 20-byte physical blocks and

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Johnny Luo
Binyamin, thanks a lot!! One book on my hand has a chapter about channel programming and i'll take a look at it to get more hints. On 5/4/07, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 May 2007 22:11:08 +0800 Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :The first is what actually determines

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Comstock
Johnny Luo wrote: Thanks, Binyamin. I have two extra questions after reading your reply. Sorry for my ignorance. The first is what actually determines the physical blocksize? You told me BLKSIZE parm is a maxmimum value for QSAM. So I guess if I write 105 records to a data set with

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread R.S.
Staller, Allan wrote: The supported migration paths are in the 'n-3' (now n-2) are that way because that is the level IBM has determined for coexistence and fallback. i.e. JES, CATALOGS, RACF, etc. can be shared with no ill effects. Outside of the migration range (N-3 or N-2) there *IS NO

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/4/2007 9:11:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The second is concerning the minimal physical unit a program can process on zos. I know acess method macros like QSAM are still at the high level. From what you told me, I guess the minimal unit QSAM

Re: MVS as a guest OS at D/R

2007-05-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am working on setting up our DR constructs and am interested in having one IEASYSM member for both DR and normal. When you say must be duplicate, does that mean that you have the VMUSERID be the same as the LPARNAME? I thought the VMUSERID was specific to the hot site requiremenst? I am

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 4 May 2007 07:29:39 -0500, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have followed this discussion with great interest, as I am still looking for a job. Also, unless a contract is signed that says if they let you go early, that they will pay you for the rest of the contract, there

Re: ftp of exclusively used Member

2007-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM said: Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:13:20 +0200 Josef Berger wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is there a possible option in ftp to get acces on a exclusively used member ?. One cirumvention I've found is to allocate the member in the

Re: MVS as a guest OS at D/R

2007-05-04 Thread Chicklon, Tom
I can't remember exactly what you are replying to, but I'm guessing that someone must have said that you must duplicate the lines in IEASYMxx for your production LPAR and your DR VM Guest. The definitions can be an exact replication, or you may have some differences between the two. With a bunch

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2007 at 06:22 PM, John Mattson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Doc I have found so far seems to say you can't get there without going thru 1.4. I believe that you will find that it is talking about supported coexistence, not about migration. I'm not aware of any

Re: How difficult would it be for a SYSPROG ? (was RE: Mainframe Data Center Permanant Shutdown Procedure Needed)

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2007 at 12:12 PM, Anthony Saul Babonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: About 10 years ago I took a couple of classes in Novell and deduced that anyone with zOS sysprog background could become a guru in 2-3 days. FSVO guru. I pick up new software rather quickly, but I

Re: Mainframe Data Center Permanant Shutdown Procedure Needed

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2007 at 11:05 AM, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: They also sent a couple of tapes to different places to be converted to test out their services. They could convert the tape fairly FSVO convert. Doing an EBCDIC-ASCII translation of non-EBCDIC data is

Re: Mainframe Data Center Permanant Shutdown Procedure Needed

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2007 at 11:24 AM, Pfeifer, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Univac U3 Wow! I haven't net many people with experience on that box. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2007 at 07:45 AM, Bill Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I was amazed at the hourly rate also and responded to the head hunter that he'd be lucky to find someone at that rate. Then I remembered there were some on the listserv who were unemployed and that $34 was

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Daniel Allen
If you use z/VM, you can run OS390 2.10. We do. Daniel Allen Sr. System Programmer Serena Software, Inc. 13713 Pinto Lane Lodi, CA 95240 800-457-3736 ext. 11241 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serena Software, Inc. www.serena.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 4 May 2007 02:40:13 -0400, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian Westerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8 The only time that I would

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 4 May 2007 08:35:43 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: Johnny Luo wrote: The first is what actually determines the physical blocksize? You told me BLKSIZE parm is a maxmimum value for QSAM. So I guess if I write 105 records to a data set with BLKSIZE=20, I'll get five 20-byte physical

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread richgr
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Here, here.remember, this is a GOV't Contract.that is FEDERAL Gov't folks. Military or not, don't matter none. And they can just walk in one day and say CLEAR OUT.without having to give a reason other than .at the convenience of the

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:38:54 -0400, Rich G. wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Here, here.remember, this is a GOV't Contract.that is FEDERAL Gov't folks. Military or not, don't matter none. And they can just walk in one day and say CLEAR OUT.without having to give a

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 May 2007 10:36:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) wrote: There are historical (hysterical?) reasons for small block sizes, too. Long ago, when you might have only had 120K available for your program and data, you might have had to keep your blocks much smaller. Today, it's

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Dave Kopischke
I am a just starting to turn gray mainframer. I've still got about 20 years before retirement, so I'm thinking WalMart Greeter might enter my career path before it's all done. ==I'm interested in what you're seeing -- in industry, schools, user ==groups, etc. -- regarding new generations of

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 May 2007 08:33:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark H. Young) wrote: Here, here.remember, this is a GOV't Contract.that is FEDERAL Gov't folks. Military or not, don't matter none. And they can just walk in one day and say CLEAR OUT.without having to give a reason other than

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Chicklon, Tom
snip On the other hand, some contracts are not enforceable. They remind me of the sign in the locker room which says not responsible for lost or stolen objects.I suppose that means please don't sue me. /snip I once worked at a place were the mailroom had a sign in it that read: NOT

Are you developing for the Web?

2007-05-04 Thread Phil Payne
I would think just about everyone running a proportion of non-legacy applications would be developing for the web. The more important thing to think about is the future of handhelds. The Nokia Communicator, the Blackberry, etc., were only really technology demonstrators. WAP seems finally to

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Steven Conway
Dave Kopischke said: ==Do user groups adequately educate new folks in this technology and culture? Yes, if you can get to the user groups and find one that's relevant. I hear SHARE is a great learning event, but expensive without subsidy. The only local user groups I'm aware of are for

Re: Systems Programmer job posting

2007-05-04 Thread Howard Brazee
On 4 May 2007 11:22:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chicklon, Tom) wrote: I once worked at a place were the mailroom had a sign in it that read: NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST OR MISPLACED MAIL Wouldn't we all like to be not responsible for the one and only thing we are responsible for! The art

Re: MVS as a guest OS at D/R

2007-05-04 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 4 May 2007 10:20:28 -0500, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am working on setting up our DR constructs and am interested in having one IEASYSM member for both DR and normal. When you say must be duplicate, does that mean that you have the VMUSERID be the same as the LPARNAME?

Re: Are you developing for the Web?

2007-05-04 Thread Steve Comstock
Phil Payne wrote: I would think just about everyone running a proportion of non-legacy applications would be developing for the web. The more important thing to think about is the future of handhelds. The Nokia Communicator, the Blackberry, etc., were only really technology demonstrators.

Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
The quote below was from a posting on another topic. I don't mean this to criticize the author, but just as a representation of some of the things I see in IBM-Main from time to time. Actually, the posting I cut this from was very good. I just wonder if someone reading this who was thinking

Re: MVS as a guest OS at D/R

2007-05-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes I did get an answer. Too many hands have updated our IEASYM over the years. I need to correct some coding issue for the SYSDEF and SYMDEF statements. But I now feel I have a handle on it, thanks to Tom Chicklon Basically need to align my SYSDEF and LPARNAMES correctly, then move the

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Actually a remark like that may be turning off the people that we want to hire us. Two jobs ago, my Director was someone who started on the help desk. When she became manager of the MF Tech Support, she asked if they were going to re-boot the machine. At the job preceding this, the Director's

Re: MVS as a guest OS at D/R

2007-05-04 Thread Mark H. Young
On Fri, 4 May 2007 15:00:06 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I did get an answer. Too many hands have updated our IEASYM over the years. I need to correct some coding issue for the SYSDEF and SYMDEF statements. But I now feel I have a handle on it, thanks to Tom Chicklon

Re: MVS as a guest OS at D/R

2007-05-04 Thread Dana Mitchell
Lizette, The key thing to remember about this setup, once you code HWNAME there is no way to set it back to default. But when you code HWNAME, it resets LPARNAME and VMUSERID too. So typically you would code all of your entries that go by just VMUSERID first, then any HWNAME and LPAR

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Doug Fuerst
Well, I am definitely in the crotchety old farts group:-) At 02:55 PM 5/4/2007, you wrote: The quote below was from a posting on another topic. I don't mean this to criticize the author, but just as a representation of some of the things I see in IBM-Main from time to time. Actually, the

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Jousma, David
At one of my previous jobs I was interviewing for, and got the job, they actually went out on IBM-MAIN and did a search on my name to see what kinds of contributions if any, and the level of questions/answers made. They told me of this AFTER I got the job. It is afterall, a way to get a gut-check

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Craddock, Chris
Dave Jousma said At one of my previous jobs I was interviewing for, and got the job, they actually went out on IBM-MAIN and did a search on my name to see what kinds of contributions if any, and the level of questions/answers made. Well I haven't applied for too many jobs in the past, but when

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Stupidity in cyberspace is forever. We sure live in interesting times Unfortunately, your INTERNET FACE may become your only reference in the future. I got a job writing free-lance due to my contributions to IBM-Main (and others). Fortunately, none of my flames ever went ballistic. - Too busy

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
The manager at my last job also said he had looked at some of my posts on IBM-Main. I don't know if that helped or hindered his decision. I suspect if I had said some idiotic things recently that I would have been tossed out of the running for the job. I know several years ago, my account rep

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread John Mattson
My wife teaches college and had to have a talk with some of her graduating art students who planned to go job hunting after posting arty but topless photos of themselves on their websites. Seniors in college do not seem the least bit smarter than I was at that age.

Another Mainstar claification on Secuity

2007-05-04 Thread Ed Gould
On April 19, 2007, Mainstar sent out an eLetter that included an announcement regarding these two new Mainstar security products. The announcement, which was included in error, incorrectly suggested a retailer's recent computer security breach occurred on a z/OS mainframe. Mainstar now has

Reference to TJ MAXX again?

2007-05-04 Thread Ken Porowski
Mainstar just issued their latest e-letter with the following note (emphasis is theirs) On April 19, 2007, Mainstar sent out an eLetter that included an announcement regarding these two new Mainstar security products. The announcement, which was included in error, incorrectly suggested a

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Ken Porowski
Consistent flaming/derogatory remarks maybe but the type/quality of questions/answers that you post would override the occasional rant and they get to see how well you play with others, how willing you are to help others and what your background has been over the years. There are those on this

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Of course many vendors would prefer you contact them first so they can show how capable their support is. After how many times do you give up? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/04/2007 at 10:03 AM, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: $$$'s vs drool of pedantic old poots You've explained that by professional you mean that you have to pay for it, regardless of the quality of the data. You haven't explained why he would want to. --

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Eric Bielefeld
The problem we had with the CA product went to their support center many times. When I wrote the offending post, it had been back and forth for a couple of months without any fixes. Eric Bielefeld Milwaukee, Wisconsin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: ftp of exclusively used Member

2007-05-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/04/2007 at 09:34 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is that necessarily so? I had believed that PDSE processing follows a sort of logical-unit-of-work isolation protocol such that no process will ever observe another processe's partially updated member.

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 4 May 2007 14:26:36 -0400, Steven Conway wrote: Dave, one thing you can check out is if there is a CMG chapter near you. See the US list at : http://www.cmg.org/groups/regions.html and the international list at:http://www.cmg.org/groups/intreg.html. Local CMG groups generally offer 1 to

WLM questions

2007-05-04 Thread George D Dranes
I was recently looking at my rules for subsystem type STC and the look as follows: 1 TN GRS ___ NO TRANSACTION 1 TN CATALOG ___ NO TRANSACTION 1 TNGONLPRD ___ NO REGION

Re: File Concatenations

2007-05-04 Thread Warner Mach
SNIP Assuming the following JCL: //DD1 DD DSN=dsname1,disp=shr // DD DSN=dsname2,disp=shr // DD DSN=dsname3,disp=shr Where DD1 is opened for input. All files are on DASD. How can I tell when dsname1 has been 'exhausted' and reading starts on dsname2, etc?

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Tom Moulder
Speaking from a vendor perspective, because I have been there, I don't know of any vendor that likes to have his problems exposed to the rest of the world. IBM-MAIN may be able to solve, in many cases faster than any other way. However, from a vendor point of view they would rather not make that

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I have since made every effort to restrain myself when I get ready to rant about someone or product. In my case, I try to make it a request for help, since I'm not getting from the vendor. But, nobody's perfect. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

SHOWzOS 714 abend on z/OS R8 fixed

2007-05-04 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
The abend U4088 RC63 among other followup abend have been solved and Sam just update the archives. I'll verify this at weekend but I'm busy . So in case of z/OS R8 you should download SHOWzOS V715. I'm still working on two other bugs but these doesn't cause any abends. Roland Schiradin ALTE

Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-04 Thread Mark Jacobs
Did anyone read this? http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070504_002027.html Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Reference to TJ MAXX again?

2007-05-04 Thread Bob Rutledge
Ken Porowski wrote: Mainstar just issued their latest e-letter with the following note (emphasis is theirs) On April 19, 2007, Mainstar sent out an eLetter that included an announcement regarding these two new Mainstar security products. The announcement, which was included in error,

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Did anyone read this? Yes, and I've lived it! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: WLM questions

2007-05-04 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 16:54 -0500, George D Dranes wrote: Just curious of I should have all of these set to REGION except CICS or if there is a reason to leave TRANSACTION for some of these like JES2. Can't see that it matters. If no-one registers as a (WLM) server, management of any

Re: WLM questions

2007-05-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What's important is to properly define those server address that *do* care - like CICS and SAP3. Being a proponent of transaction goals, so don't get me wrong, I have a question. Our CICS transactions have a response of sub-half-second. They are all managed under (high) velocity goals. Can

Re: WLM questions

2007-05-04 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 23:17 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Can anybody tell me why I would change to transaction goals? Nope. Transaction goals are an option, not a requirement. Do what you need to meet the business goals. Shane ...

Re: WLM questions

2007-05-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Do what you need to meet the business goals. I (obviously) agree. But, there are lot of 'experts' out there, that are paid the big bucks, telling us 'we must'. I won't mention any names, because I respect them, but they are telling us to do the wrong things. If response (and business) goals

Salary in the future for PC weeny types (HUMOR People)

2007-05-04 Thread Ed Gould
Help Wanted by Robert Byron June 2, 1999 Mr. Joe Pantoliano c/o Warner Bros. Studios 3903 W Olive Ave Burbank, CA 91505-4692 Dear Mr. Pantoliano, I have had the opportunity to see your current movie, The Matrix and I must say that I was quite impressed with your role in the film. I

Re: Turning Off the People We Might Want to Hire

2007-05-04 Thread Mark Levy
Absolutely agree..it's getting real easy to connect the dots. I do it all the time. I also have several internet handles. I started out using them to be anonymous but now it's pretty easy to derive my name by working backwards. I was working at a startup that focused on social search and you can

Re: Ulterior Motive for IBM's Lawsuits

2007-05-04 Thread Shane
Phils back from the depths - must have given up trying to get that Audi to go ... ;-) On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 20:58 +0100, Phil Payne wrote: It's hard to imagine a mainframe as a gaming machine Some of the super-computing folks have been playing with the cell processors - there's even an SDK

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-04 Thread Robert Justice
I just wonder how long it's going to be before people finally WAKE UP in this country and quit putting up with the offshoring, the outsourcing, the free trade b.s, the H1B visa SCAM and completely idiotic ceo compensation. .

Re: WLM questions

2007-05-04 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
1. Your TSO user might complain about bad response times 2. Your route some important workload to a seperate CICS region and your managment set a service level 90% below 1 second then you would like to have your WLM to take care about this service level and ensure WLM give this ASID as much as

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-04 Thread Campbell Jay
When will we ditch Capitalism ? Kill us, Darren ! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Justice Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM? I just

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-04 Thread Robert Justice
capitalism is one thing, CORPORATE GREED AND CORPORATE STUPIDITY is something else entirely. - Original Message - From: Campbell Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-04 Thread Campbell Jay
Different topic... Sorry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Justice Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM? capitalism is one thing, CORPORATE

Re: WLM questions

2007-05-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
1. Your TSO user might complain about bad response times We DO NOT have TSO on our production system, except where absolutely necessary (IE: talking to DB2) 2. Your route some important workload to a seperate CICS region... You missed my point! We don't have that! We do route around with

Re: ftp of exclusively used Member

2007-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 17:40:41 -0300 Is that necessarily so? I had believed that PDSE processing follows a sort of logical-unit-of-work isolation protocol such that no process will ever observe another processe's partially updated

Sharks (late Friday)

2007-05-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Shark Tank: Sometimes you can just see 'em coming http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/5436?from=0comments_per_page=10 -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Article for z/Journal

2007-05-04 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/4/2007 4:28:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for it, regardless of the quality of the data. You haven't explained why he would want to. Folks prohibited from participating in the list for legal or company policy would otherwise partake of

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Brian Westerman
Unfortunately, your client wasted some resources with that effort, but this user is running on a z/890. Their original system is OS/390 2.10, I could understand if it was 2.9 or before, (which can also be made to work), but at 2.10 there are no issues. Sorry. Brian

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Brian Westerman
Unfortunately, when I post my number on the list I end up with a lot of head-hunter calls. I don't think it's the list itself, just that there are some nefarious people out there that take advantage of the availability, having an 800 number is like a magnet for wack-o's. Brian

Re: Finally get to go from os390 2.10 to zOS 1.8

2007-05-04 Thread Brian Westerman
ah, again with the FUD. There is no issue with sharing catalogs, or RACF between OS/390 and z/OS at any level, you just can't do stupid things. There are some incompatibilities with some products, but mostly it's a matter of two inconsistent versions of products that you can handle up front