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sage- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:30 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 > states away from yo

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: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman < brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > Our

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ate Tieline - 89443 >> >> If you feel in control >> you just aren't going fast enough. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >> On Behalf Of Edward Gould >> Sen

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>On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 3:03 AM, Brian Westerman < > > I'm actually kind of surprised at the number of sites that don't code the > OSA-ICC consoles as NIP available. They were designed to function in that > manner, and you can then always have remote access (assuming you have a > VPN). Our

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feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e.

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John, make it a 2-people list then :) Since I've started in mainframes (2006), our operational procedures were to test HMC connectivity a couple hours prior to the IPLs and logon to OSM consoles, so I guess I got used to that. Now it's even better with the Java-less OSM interface, less risk of not

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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 3:03 AM, Brian Westerman < brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: > I'm actually kind of surprised at the number of sites that don't code the > OSA-ICC consoles as NIP available. They were designed to function in that > manner, and you can then always have remote access

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Wow, I wonder how surprised all of the sites we support remotely would be to find out that they are not running a "true production environment"? :) Brian On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 22:38:34 -0500, Edward Gould wrote: >> On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Jerry Whitteridge >>

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t; >> If you feel in control >> you just aren't going fast enough. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >> Behalf Of Edward Gould >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:

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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:32 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > > Times have changed. > > Just ask the auditors if they have VPN access to their files so that they can > work from home. If they say yes, then you should be able to have VPN consoles > too. > > Or, just set it up and

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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:12 AM, John Mattson wrote: > >Fascinating subject for most of us, just look at all the replies. > Makes me sorry that I am close to retirement when things keep getting more > interesting. >Many years ago that I started doing all of the

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> On Sep 29, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Jerry Whitteridge > wrote: > > I take some umbrage if you are implying my sites are not "true production" - > My outages are as costly to our business as any could be. > The fact your sites have trust issues as well as training

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ERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). This is a great post! Quite some years ago a local YMCA activities director acquired a pager. People thought she was burdening herself with an electronic tether. Quite the opposite, she argued. She trusted

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edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) writes: > Brian: > One of there specific episodes we had was that the master console was > the only one that was “talking”. As to other options you listed the > auditors cut them off years ago and no use arguing with them (BTDT). > As for HMC remote access

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Times have changed. Just ask the auditors if they have VPN access to their files so that they can work from home. If they say yes, then you should be able to have VPN consoles too. Or, just set it up and don't tell them. If they ever figure it out, just say that 'Joe' (some retired auditor)

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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Mattson Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Fascinating subject for most of us, just look at all the replies

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Fascinating subject for most of us, just look at all the replies. Makes me sorry that I am close to retirement when things keep getting more interesting. Many years ago that I started doing all of the zOS maintenance because the rest of the group was eliminated or switched to Unix/Win.

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ough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from

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.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Now that most mainframes (at least for the past several years) have OSA-ICC's, there is no reason to w

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ERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). > On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Jerry Whitteridge > <jerry.whitteri...@safeway.com> wrote: > > Let me expand on that previous comment. > > If your Datacenter was/is designed for attended opera

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Of Lester, Bob Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Hi Tony, Belt & Suspenders! Still a good idea! I'm an FTE, but have similar access to my C

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>Brian: >One of there specific episodes we had was that the master console was the only >one that was “talking”. As to other options you listed the auditors cut them >>off years ago and no use arguing with them (BTDT). >As for HMC remote access again the auditors wouldn’t allow it no matter how

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> On Sep 28, 2016, at 11:49 PM, Brian Westerman > wrote: > > Now that most mainframes (at least for the past several years) have > OSA-ICC's, there is no reason to worry about not having a console connection > remotely. We routinely define 16 consoles and 16

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Now that most mainframes (at least for the past several years) have OSA-ICC's, there is no reason to worry about not having a console connection remotely. We routinely define 16 consoles and 16 3270's (non-console) to each LPAR (a few more for production LPARs sometimes). I can't think of the

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> On Sep 28, 2016, at 11:51 AM, Gates, Guy wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Do you have access to login to the HMC? I had a similar situation and > couldn't logon to TSO or even CA-SYSVIEW or another product we have named > BimEdit (From CSI Inc.), which both have authority to

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> On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Jerry Whitteridge > wrote: > > Let me expand on that previous comment. > > If your Datacenter was/is designed for attended operations then console > access is often restricted to physical access and so remote support becomes > an

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I agree, it's kind of cool, but if I were the one paying ofr the hardware, I wouldn't waste it like that. Maybe in a few more years it will be better. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

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ion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Lester, Bob [bles...@ofiglobal.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Hi Len, Same here. I'm not sure if

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: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). [ EXTERNAL ] I've contemplated retiring from my current post-mainframe job sometime if I could find a fitting at least mostly remote job. Another option would be short term contracts and living the RV life

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Reposting to add comments on HMC. See below. -Original Message- From: Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:25 AM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you).

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I've contemplated retiring from my current post-mainframe job sometime if I could find a fitting at least mostly remote job. Another option would be short term contracts and living the RV life :-) I wonder how long my mainframe knowledge will be marketable, how may year away is too long?

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ugh. > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Edward Gould > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. th

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fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from

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MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote

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s. Please then delete the original message > (including any attachments) in its entirety. Thank you > > > -Original Message- > From: "Jesse 1 Robinson" <jesse1.robin...@sce.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:24pm > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

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atson" <che...@watsonwalker.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:51pm To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). I can highly recommend z/OSMF. Steve - have you tried the install on z/OS 2.2? It's con

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IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). You might look at z/OSMF but don't be fooled, it will

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Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:24pm To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Amen to what Jerry said. I just want to substitute the word '(re)design'. Our IT operation was originally 'designed' back in the day

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inal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Amen to

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Whitteridge Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Let me expand on that previous comment. If your Datacenter was/is designed for attended operations

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). This indicates a weak

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en't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 st

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gt; -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Edward Gould > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:10 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states awa

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11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). > On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> > wrote: > > Hi John, > > Our company (Syzygy Incorporated) ful

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> On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman > wrote: > > Hi John, > > Our company (Syzygy Incorporated) fully supports more than 70 sites remotely, > all over the world. On top of that we provide partial support for another 60 > to 70 sites. Some are

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I've been working remote for years. Currently working for a company where the client is on the other side of the country, so 3 days away by car. if you're worried about staying in tune to things, then make sure you attend conference call meetings, up to date on emails, IM, etc.. I don't do

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I realize that there have been a number of replies to this already, but I have a bit of experience with this as well. At both my current employer and my last employer, my office was located several states away from the location(s) of the data center(s) where z/OS was running. While I did have a

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John, I spent about 9 years working remotely, most of it with IBM in various areas. I basically agree with all that has been said thus far, technically there is no reason this can't be easily done as long as you have the support of the network folks to allow you vpn access to HMC's, tape

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:28 AM, Brian Westerman < brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > Our company (Syzygy Incorporated) fully supports more than 70 sites > remotely, all over the world. On top of that we provide partial support > for another 60 to 70 sites. Some are large

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Hi John, Our company (Syzygy Incorporated) fully supports more than 70 sites remotely, all over the world. On top of that we provide partial support for another 60 to 70 sites. Some are large (300+MSU) and some are quite small (8 to 10 MSU), but they all need our expertise and not being

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, 2016 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). This is kind of a curiosity question and kind of serious. There is a chance that I might be offered a job where the data center is about 20 hours away by car (according

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, 2016 11:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). Perhaps it's an "other side of the Pond" thing, but if it is a actual remote position for a large company, I'd expect them to provide all the hardware

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Perhaps it's an "other side of the Pond" thing, but if it is a actual remote position for a large company, I'd expect them to provide all the hardware you need, and even ban you from any access to the company from your own devices (other than phone calls). As others have indicate, working

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2016 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). John, You almost must have a camera for 2-way communication. You can get a good quality USB camera for your computer from Amazon or ebay. They

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27, 2016 11:27 am Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Mitch Mccluhan < 005d889cebf0-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >  John, > > I've been working remotely for years.  The issue is being r

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-Original Message- From: John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2016 11:27 am Subject: Re: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Mi

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LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2016 10:57 am > Subject: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from > you). > > This is kind of a curiosity question and kind of serious. There is a chance > that I might be offered a job where the data center is a

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MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you). This is kind of a curiosity question and kind of serious. There is a chance that I might be off

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to be an integral part of the support team. Regards, Mitch McCluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message- From: John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Sent: Tue, Sep 27, 2016 10:57 am Subject: remote system support (i.e. the data

remote system support (i.e. the data center is 2 states away from you).

This is kind of a curiosity question and kind of serious. There is a chance that I might be offered a job where the data center is about 20 hours away by car (according to Google maps). Needless to say, there is no going in overnight to fix a problem. So I'm wondering if others here support a z/OS