Re: [Langcom] Approval of Northern Luri Wikipedia

you can see the Bakhtiari (bqi) dialects and Kohkiloyeh and Bouyerahmad (Southern Luri [luz]) as well. On pages #186 to #197 you can compares the example differences between these languages. On 4/27/2015 2:14 PM, Oliver

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Northern Luri Wikipedia

Mr. Mehramooz actually is a university professor and he has PhD, and he has been contributing to Northern Luri Wikipedia under user name User:‏Mehramooz, please contact him for the verification. On 4/28/2015 1:14 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote: Have we passed step #1 yet? i.e. has Northern Luri

Re: [Langcom] Azeri Latin vs. Arabic

Gerard, I really see the need of LangCom face-to-face meetings as some issues seem to be impossible to discuss by email. Anyway, in the face of not being able to meet in person, let's try again by this imperfect medium riddled with potential misunderstandings ... *sigh* How do you propose to

Re: [Langcom] Conformation letter of Lori articles

it on Wednesday the 10th (=1 week after your mail). Activity interface translation is fulfilled. 2015-06-03 19:11 GMT+02:00 Oliver Stegen i...@oliverstegen.net mailto:i...@oliverstegen.net: Dear fellow committee members, With Dr. Mehdi Moshkriz' response - for which many thanks! -, the issue

Re: [Langcom] Western Punjabi Wikiquote approval

No objections from my side. Oliver On 19-Aug-15 9:19 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Hi, I met an editor of Western Punjabi Wikipedia and Wikiquote at Wikimania. Wikiquote is still in incubator. He asked what needs to be done for the project to get out of the incubator. The incubator and the

Re: [Langcom] Western Balochi

First, we need to agree among all LangCom members, that Western Balochi has reached the stage of verification. Second, we need to agree that Azim Shahbakhsh would be an acceptable person to do such verification. (For example, we would need to check that he isn't closely involved with the

Re: [Langcom] Western Balochi

: http://astaff.usb.ac.ir/Default.aspx?ID=952Culture=fa-ir On 8/7/2015 5:31 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote: First, we need to agree among all LangCom members, that Western Balochi has reached the stage of verification. Second, we need to agree that Azim Shahbakhsh would be an acceptable person to do

Re: [Langcom] Neapolitan wikisource

and explicit approval by LangCom should be needed. Best wishes, Oliver Stegen On 06-Aug-15 12:18 AM, C. Russo wrote: I want to bring to the attention of the Langcom that there is an application for a neapolitan wikisource https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Neapolitan

Re: [Langcom] Approval of South Azerbaijani Wikipedia

Glad to hear that we have consensus to move ahead. As in May, I still approve. Thanks, Oliver On 13-Jul-15 12:52 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Go ahead i am not getting responses.. Thanks, Gerard On 13 July 2015 at 11:25, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.com mailto:ever...@evertype.com

Re: [Langcom] Western Balochi

Do we have consensus on Western Balochi being ready for a scholar check? Hoping to resolve this soon, Oliver On 17-Oct-15 6:53 PM, Ibrahim Baloch wrote: Hello. Dear language committee members! anybody can connect with her , she is a scholar of

Re: [Langcom] a language code for Simple English

Indeed, that's a problem! Imho, we'll have to deal with the status of Simple English in general. Any chance of successfully applying an ISO code for it? Otherwise, we'll run into more problems like this one https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Simple_English

Re: [Langcom] Ka.wikisource

+1 from me as well -- Oliver Stegen, PhD Linguistics Consultant, SIL Uganda-Tanzania _http://sil.academia.edu/OliverStegen_ On 30-Nov-15 11:26 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Yes, let's approve them. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living

Re: [Langcom] Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval

Specifically "three consecutive months of activity" - can't find the document but it's in a policy which was drawn up between Milos Rancic and Gerard Meijssen several years ago. Should be findable at the LangCom subpage of Wikimedia. -OS On 14-Dec-15 4:09 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Where is

Re: [Langcom] Circassian Wikipedia - suggested approval

+1 (and a belated happy new year to you all) On 04-Jan-16 10:13 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Happy new year! We're in January, and the incubator is still active. Shall we approve it? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I

Re: [Langcom] Mongolian Wikipedia written in Mongolian script

+1 I think we may have to revise our policy to allow those cases where automatic transliteration is impossible, even if script is the only difference. Of course, community decision rules supreme on that (i.e. if a wiki community wants to allow both within one wiki, we wouldn't force a split

Re: [Langcom] Wikiversity Simple English

MF: the Simple English wikipedia was approved long before we had regulations about ISO codes and suchlike (cf. http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaSIMPLE.htm), and we do not usually "uncharter" active wikis, even if they wouldn't pass our current requirements (I understand that there

Re: [Langcom] Wikiversity Simple English

At one point LangCom had said that a language which has successfully applied for one project can have any following ones without problems (provided there is a community for it which takes care of it). And of course, we do have a Simple English wikipedia. However, in this particular case, I

Re: [Langcom] Mentioning of "revived" languages in the Language Proposal Policy

I thought the issue was a community which would take care of a project. So, even if a revitalized language has a community *outside* of Wikimedia, that doesn't automatically mean that an application for a wiki project would be granted. So, fair enough, we can accept the application for such a

Re: [Langcom] Luri Wikipedia

In May 2015, I had contacted Erik Anonby, a Canadian linguist with specialty in Iranian languages, and he actually verified the contents of lrc:wp (then still in the incubator). It was him who also provided contact for Mehdi Moshkriz who is now maligned by fa:wp editors. [Btw, I do not find

Re: [Langcom] Luri Wikipedia

ow, Oliver ^^^^^^^^ Oliver Stegen, PhD Linguistics Consultant, SIL Uganda-Tanzania Email: _oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>_ _http://sil.academia.edu/OliverStegen_ On 02-Feb-16 4:29 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: Damn these spellcheckers I meant &qu

Re: [Langcom] Luri Wikipedia

akers with different ethnically backgrounds. please explain the situation properly to him and ask if a normal Lur who was educated in Iran, can read this script or not. Best On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:17 PM Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>> wr

Re: [Langcom] Jamaican

Antony Green <toniogr...@web.de <mailto:toniogr...@web.de>> wrote: I agree, it's eligible. Am 2016-04-21 um 15:13 schrieb Michael Everson: On 21 Apr 2016, at 05:15, Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto

Re: [Langcom] Jamaican

Great - thanks, Michael (also to your translator)! Who is going to inform those responsible for and with the ability of turning the incubator wikipedia into jam.wikipedia.org? Oliver On 25-Apr-16 11:29 PM, Michael Everson wrote: My informant says: = Hi Michael, It is proper patwa but

Re: [Langcom] Tulu Wikipedia status?

Thanks for turning our attention to this. Provided that an independent scholar will verify that the content in the incubator is written in proper Tulu, I support the domain tcy to go live. Best, Oliver On 17-May-16 3:38 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Hi, I've been told indirectly that the

Re: [Langcom] Tulu Wikipedia status?

במאי 2016 21:52,‏ "Oliver Stegen" <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>> כתב: Thanks for turning our attention to this. Provided that an independent scholar will verify that the content in the incubator is written in proper Tulu, I support the dom

Re: [Langcom] ASL

Thanks, Gerard, I support this in principle. It could set a standard for other sign languages as well. I expect that there is a dedicated community which would make the ASL wikipedia a viable reality? Looking forward to hearing more about this, Oliver On 15-May-16 9:47 AM, Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Langcom] Greek vs Latin (WAS: Lingua Franca Nova)

<mfwarb...@googlemail.com <mailto:mfwarb...@googlemail.com>> Shouldn't we, when we accept this line of argument, also accept Ancient Greek (grc)? 2017-02-02 12:34 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova

Hi, I found Jan's exposition most helpful and actually convincing - thanks! In response, I am no longer opposed to make lfn eligible. Go ahead! (And may it thrive.) Oliver On 02-Feb-17 10:37, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, I like the argument put forward by Jan and Michael. Personally I do

Re: [Langcom] Ancient Greek (WAS: Lingua Franca Nova)

I'd support Ancient Greek [grc] as well. Alas!, don't the rules say that, if one LangCom member opposes, that leads to rejection? If that truly is the case, we may need to look into that rule. Maybe, we can settle on something slightly more democratic? Fwiw, Oliver On 06-Feb-17 18:24,

Re: [Langcom] Dinka

the condition of successfully concluding verification, of course!). Best, Oliver On 02-Feb-17 13:24, Oliver Stegen wrote: I know a couple of linguists working on Dinka. Bible translations are definitely existing or going on in different varieties but maybe, one wikipedia may still work.

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for the new member

Looks good to me - I'm happy to welcome him into LangCom. Best, Oliver On 24-Jan-17 09:25, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, I am all for it. Thanks, GerardM On 23 January 2017 at 19:14, Srikant Kedia > wrote: I met Satdeep personally

Re: [Langcom] Eligible status for [Wikipedia in] Awadhi language

Thanks, Milos, for updating the status of all those proposals of valid languages to "eligible". Oliver On 20-Jan-17 12:39, Milos Rancic wrote: Proposal is there since 2014 [1]. As I've seen nothing controversial in the request (a valid language, a valid ISO 639-3 code, large population of

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligibility of the [Wikipedia in] Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

I've contacted the Aramaic BT team (http://www.aramaicbible.org/our-team.html) two of whom I know personally. I'll let you know when they respond on the question of dialect (i.e. possibly combinable into arc:wp) vs language (i.e. probably needing a distinct wp). Fwiw, Oliver On 19-Jan-17

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligibility of the [Wikipedia in] Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

:10, MF-Warburg wrote: Thanks for this explanation! 2017-01-27 8:03 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>>: Here are the ISO codes for Aramaic languages (according to https://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/aramaic-1 <https://www

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligibility of the [Wikipedia in] Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

, I can forward more details from his original post, if necessary. He closes with "I hope this helps. More detail and further discussion of course can be provided if desired." Fwiw, Oliver On 24-Jan-17 12:50, Oliver Stegen wrote: I've contacted the Aramaic BT team (http://www.arama

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligibility of the [Wikipedia in] Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

h the most speakers). בתאריך 26 בינו׳ 2017 11:32,‏ "Oliver Stegen" <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>> כתב: Hoi, I've received a lengthy answer from Patrick R Bennett (Principal of the The Jerome Institute, and Prof. Emeritus of the University

Re: [Langcom] Fwd: [Maniphest] [Created] T158730: Automate WMF wiki creation

To be honest, I don't know what you're talking about. Deploy commits? Run scripts? Pybal? If you think that it's not a big deal for LangCom to "have that button" ... I don't know. Fwiw, Oliver On 22-Feb-17 07:48, Milos Rancic wrote: I was talking with Tim Starling about the automation of the

Re: [Langcom] Wikimedia Conference 2017, Berlin

at 8:22 PM, Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org> wrote: Well, they also have a policy of max. two representatives per entity, and I don't even have an invitation. So I guess I'll let it go. On 20-Feb-17 20:16, MF-Warburg wrote: The registration deadline they gave me was 31 January, and

Re: [Langcom] Wikimedia Conference 2017, Berlin

; On 21 February 2017 at 00:13, Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>> wrote: Does one need an official invitation to go? I mean I'm in Germany anyway so wouldn't need funding support to attend. On 20-Feb-17 19:25, Michael Everson wrote:

Re: [Langcom] Wikimedia Conference 2017, Berlin

page could be outdated. 2017-02-20 20:13 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>>: I see, I'm way too late - registration closed on 8 January 2017, cf. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2017/Registration

[Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Wolaytta eligible

I've made the request [1] for a wikipedia in Wolaytta [2] eligible. It's an Omotic language spoken by 1.7 million people in Ethiopia [3]. Unfortunately, the request was made anonymously, and there only is a single article presumably written in the language on incubator, almost five years ago

Re: [Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Wolaytta eligible

on FB ... will see what happens ... Oliver On 09-Feb-17 21:20, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, There is no problem with eligibility. It is the other stuff that is needed to get us to the phase for a new Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM On 9 February 2017 at 21:13, Oliver Stegen <oliver_

Re: [Langcom] Membership changes

Just briefly on your list: Antony Green is an active member of LangCom; he just posted on the topics of Lingua Franca Nova and what's the smallest community some days ago (!), so please don't exclude him! Best, Oliver On 10-Feb-17 01:28, Jon Harald Søby wrote: List of LangCom members I

Re: [Langcom] New Guinea languages (WAS: Membership changes)

In response to the question of New Guinea languages: SIL is probably the one organisation [1] working in most of those languages, almost half of all in PNG alone, which includes over 2,500 publications and a large body of unpublished works about and in 389 languages [2]. Access to amenities

Re: [Langcom] Facebook page

+1 (Finally!) On 26-Feb-17 16:06, Milos Rancic wrote: I've created Facebook page for LangCom: https://www.facebook.com/wmlangcom/ It could be used for various announcements ("New Wikimedia language!", "We are now working on this!" etc.) and discussions about things we are interested in.

Re: [Langcom] Facebook page

Agreement from me also - so I guess any FB-post should be duplicated to the blog and vice versa. Oliver On 26-Feb-17 18:08, Satdeep Gill wrote: Hi agree with Amir that not everybody is on facebook and writing blog posts is indeed better. But having a facebook page will also help us. And

Re: [Langcom] Rejection of Wikipedia Prekmurian

+1 As noted in Ethnologue, Prekmurian remains mentioned under Slovenian (https://www.ethnologue.com/language/slv), especially as the Slovenian dialect as spoken in Hungary. The historical literature written in Prekmurian, as argued about in the request discussion, is already included in

Re: [Langcom] new member proposal: Danny B.

2016-12-05 17:14 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>>: The link leads to an account which was deleted on 3 September 2015. His correct page link is https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Danny_B. (The same

Re: [Langcom] new member proposal: Danny B.

Can you give us a link to his wikimedia page so we can get to know him? I didn't want to assume that "Danny B." was his wiki name ... Otherwise +1 On 05-Dec-16 14:08, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Hi, Danny B., a veteran Czech Wikimedia volunteer, asked me about joining the Langcom. He is

Re: [Langcom] new member proposal: Danny B.

. claimed they are his "enemies" - I don't think this would be conducive to a neutral handling of requests. Given these problems, I do not think it would be good if Danny B. became a langcom member. Best regards, MF-W 2016-12-05 14:37 GMT+01:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.

Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia analysis

+1 Glad to see that Doteli seems to be ready to get their own domain dty.wikipedia.org On 19-Mar-17 14:38, Satdeep Gill wrote: I just got this email. Regards Satdeep Gill *From:* mukund bhandari

Re: [Langcom] Wikimedia Conference 2017, Berlin

, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org> wrote: Well, they also have a policy of max. two representatives per entity, and I don't even have an invitation. So I guess I'll let it go. On 20-Feb-17 20:16, MF-Warburg wrote: The registration deadline they gave me was 31 January, and

Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia

hope he will update us soon. Thanks Biplab On 14 Feb 2017 14:15, "Oliver Stegen" <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>> wrote: Sorry to say that this first link came up dry. I have a second tenuous connection which really is a l

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Fiji Hindi Wiktionary

+1 On 29-Jul-17 18:48, MF-Warburg wrote: Hello. I propose that we approve the admirably active Fiji Hindi Wiktionary: (currently 1

Re: [Langcom] Coptic - eligible?

Yep, that's what I vote for: +1 On 28-Jul-17 18:36, MF-Warburg wrote: To summarize: yes to eligibility and interface translation? 2017-07-21 19:22 GMT+02:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>>: I follow Gerard's line of argumentati

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Fiji Hindi Wiktionary

From countless witnesses of minority language speakers, I can assure you that having an online dictionary makes a lot of sense. Wikidata may include that function but it doesn't look like an online dictionary - and that's what counts to local government, communities and funders when it comes

Re: [Langcom] Ho and Warang Citi

utton at the top of the page) -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2017-06-07 12:46 GMT+03:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>&

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Bashkir Wikibooks

+1 On 21-Jul-17 00:28, MF-Warburg wrote: I propose to approve Bashkir Wikibooks. The test-project is active since 8 months: [As Bashkir Wikipedia already exists,] the most-used messages

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

+1 Thanks, MF, for working Gerard's comments into the new policy draft so sensibly and sensitively! No further comments or changes from my side - I'd be happy to approve those new rules. Oliver On 04-Jul-17 13:31, MF-Warburg wrote: Are there further comments about this? I'd invite those of

Re: [Langcom] Current open requests for Project Closures

If inactivity is not a valid reason, what *would* be? I feel unable to make a decision or even just comment in the absence of a standard list of criteria for closing a project. Probably such a list exists, so if it does, please provide me with the link. Thanks. On 02-Jul-17 01:45, MF-Warburg

Re: [Langcom] Fwd: Starting a Dinka Wikipedia

Thanks, Amir. I've contacted two linguists for their comments on din:wp on incubator . Awaiting their responses, and so long! Oliver On 26-Apr-17 14:37, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Hi, See the forwarded email from Prof. John

Re: [Langcom] Livvi-Karelian Wikisource

Thanks, Antony! I concur (albeit belatedly). Oliver On 22-Apr-17 01:03, Antony Green wrote: I've gone ahead and rejected Old Norwegian and made all the other Wikisources mentioned eligible. Am 2017-04-20 um 00:51 schrieb Michael Everson: Thank you for this thankless clerical work, Antony.

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

Guys! I can't believe that you're writing in public what you've been writing here. Will you please refrain from cluttering the mailing list with these unworthy diatribes? Anyone can construe an argument of anything being racist but honestly, Miloš, that's not a way to get anything done among

Re: [Langcom] [Approval] of Hindi Wikiversity

No objections for one week. Are you going to initiate domain creation? On 13-Jun-17 05:31, MF-Warburg wrote: I think this is ok. 5 months cont. activity now. Let's proceed soonish? 2017-05-06 10:53 GMT+02:00 Satdeep Gill >: Hello

Re: [Langcom] Dinka Wikipedia

As there were no other objections for one week, I guess it's approved? Amir, are you going to put the next steps in motion, or have already done so? On 14-Jun-17 12:28, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Yes, see the private list. Basically, he says that the situations with standards, varieties, and

Re: [Langcom] [Approval] of Hindi Wikivoyage

Looks like editing has picked up - I see five active editors for June so far. Can we approve? And then initiate domain creation after one week? On 13-Jun-17 05:27, MF-Warburg wrote: In this month, which is nearly half over, there has only been one editor so far.

Re: [Langcom] Dutch Wikinews

More discussion by two nl:wn contributors at [1], including the request for LangCom to stick to our own rule of responding to requests within 7 days (I don't think they read that correctly; it's about internal voting that have the 7-day deadline, isn't it? Or have I misunderstood?). Currently

Re: [Langcom] Dutch Wikinews

I've found some examples but I cannot say that it's "mostly unacceptable"; there are at least as many articles which are very well written and highly acceptable. Also, as Gerard wrote, monitoring WN:OR is not one of our responsibilities nor within our guidelines or mandate. So, I guess, that

Re: [Langcom] Ho and Warang Citi

/ On 06-Jun-17 16:20, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Ah, curious. Could you perhaps also ask whether there are any websites in Ho at all? Or would Wikipedia be the first one? בתאריך 6 ביוני 2017 01:20 PM,‏ "Oliver Stegen" <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>> כת

Re: [Langcom] Fwd: Starting a Dinka Wikipedia

-17 15:32, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: Oliver, did you get any replies? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2017-04-26 18:04 GMT+03:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_ste...@sil.org <mailto:oliv

Re: [Langcom] Ho and Warang Citi

I had written to a linguist contact with connections to a Ho literacy and translation project. Interestingly enough, all work and publications of that project is written in the Odia / Oriya script [1], i.e. in neither of the three mentioned so far. I've been put in contact with a Ho person on

Re: [Langcom] Request for closure of Nahuatl Wikipedia

Thanks, Steven - I applaud your wrestling with possible next steps and your proposal of a general RfC page on Meta. Alas!, I don't have enough Spanish to represent LangCom there. Maybe Maor Malul? (the only native Spanish speaker among us) Fwiw, Oliver On 16-Oct-17 19:43, Steven White

Re: [Langcom] Request for closure of Nahuatl Wikipedia

Just read the entire proposal and discussion thread - yikes! Looks like a matter of politics and personal issues to me, neither of which will be solved by the closure of a WMF project. I don't see a) any reason why we should support this request and b) any opportunity to communicate openly and

Re: [Langcom] Saraiki Wikipedia marked as eligible

Thanks, Satdeep! As both Saraiki and Santhali have ISO 639-3 codes, I don't see any problems with either being marked as eligible. Any controversies may come to ight and be discussed accordingly during the verification phase which has started now. Fwiw, Oliver On 29-Aug-17 16:43, Satdeep

Re: [Langcom] Status of tests in Incubator (was "Requests marked eligible")

Steven, thanks - that's brilliant! We need such overviews - otherwise, there's always this thought in the back of my mind that some project might be ready without us knowing. Thanks for keeping tabs on incubator! (and many other things as well ...) Oliver On 15-Nov-17 20:49, Steven White

Re: [Langcom] Looking to close two long-open requests for project closures

"Soft closes" seem particularly suited to Wikinews where old data with long activity gaps is much more embarrassing than in other WMF projects. +1 On 23-Nov-17 17:29, MF-Warburg wrote: Yes, this makes sense. If the main concern are old articles on the main page, clean the main page.

Re: [Langcom] Pashto Wikivoyage: One last project for approval in 2017

+1 Activity looks good and localization looks promising. What can we do to encourage continued translation at translate.wiki? Even Mediawiki core, while being at 72%, is still lacking 1060 items [1]. Fwiw, Oliver [1] https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:LanguageStats=ps=core

Re: [Langcom] Ingush and Gorontalo Wikipedias

Finding experts is usually possible but we don't necessarily explore all possible avenues because these are time-consuming. For example, we could access academic articles on the language in question at GoogleScholar [1] or in public bibliographies like OLAC [2] and contact their authors for

Re: [Langcom] Requests marked eligible

Thanks! My summary: None of these had significant traffic recently, although lld:wp fulfilled the 3 editors with > 10 edits/month requirement in July/August 2014, and it currently has 156 articles on incubator. The other two have no relevant content to speak of yet. To be watched again in

Re: [Langcom] Proposing myself as official clerk to the Language Committee

te: Agreed! On 5/11/2017 9:24 p.m., Milos Rancic wrote: I support Steven as a clerk, as well. (I supoort him as a full LangCom member, but let's finish voting on this issue before we start anything new.) On Nov 5, 2017 8:

Re: [Langcom] Proposing myself as official clerk to the Language Committee

busy for most if not all of us). So, I vote for appointing Steve as our clerk. In the hope of speeding up LangCom's tasks, Oliver Stegen (User:Baba Tabita) On 03-Nov-17 17:29, Steven White wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen: I would like to propose that the Language Committee formally appoint

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia

Thanks, Steve, for the reminder. Last time, the discussion got sidetracked into discussing [grc] instead of [lfn]. Hopefully, we'll stay on track this time. I vote +1 for approving Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia. (Still for the same arguments which swayed me in February, particularly Jan's

Re: [Langcom] our interaction (WAS: Four Wikipedia project requests dating from 2009 or earlier)

I support Michael's call to stop offensive rants. And to be precise: Miloš, I perceive your posts and attitude to be highly disruptive (and that is not just my personal opinion but based on the standards of committee etiquette of several other non-profit organisations I'm familiar with) - it

Re: [Langcom] Some Q here

Of the cases requesting follow-up, I'm aware of the following: 1. request for closure of be-tarask is to be rejected (i.e. be-tarask should continue). 2. request for closure of Nahuatl is to be rejected (further steps are still discussed but LangCom seems to have consensus not to close

Re: [Langcom] Noongar Wikipedia

You requested comments, so here is mine: I don't know about the technicalities of creating separate namespaces but in principle, that sounds like a good solution to me. I understand that it means any visitor to the Noongar wikipedia will first see Noongar only, and for translations into

Re: [Langcom] Noongar Wikipedia

As far as I understand, the English namespace of the Noongar wikipedia is not meant to be a duplication of English wikipedia articles but rather *translations* of Noongar articles for those Noongar whose language skills are not good enough to the Noongar straight away. Reading the

Re: [Langcom] Project requests marked "eligible" that never had a test created

As far as I understand, 'eligible' only means that the language in the proposal has an ISO 639-3 code. I agree with Gerard that eligibility is not affected by staleness. Theoretically, a proposal can remain open for as long as someone works on it sporadically (or if enough content has been

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Ingush Wikipedia

+1 from me as well. Oliver On 01-Jan-18 15:40, Michael Everson wrote: I agree. On 31 Dec 2017, at 17:16, Steven White wrote: Well, there was a discussion starting about December 3, 2016 that MF-Warburg started. Milos and Gerard responded favorably (providing

Re: [Langcom] Pashto Wikivoyage: One last project for approval in 2017

I can understand MF's concern. However, I looked at some articles as well (and got some help through GoogleTranslate), and the content about travel advice seems to be there, e.g. in

Re: [Langcom] Final group of projects with requests lingering since 2010

erard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Introducing these codes is no problem. It has been agreed that once a language is deemed eligible it remains that way. When a new team comes along it may be good to check the standard again to see if something has changed. Thanks,      GerardM On 22 January 2018 at

Re: [Langcom] Western Armenian has been adopted "hyw"

Congratulations, Michael and the entire Western Armenian community (or rather communities!). And thanks for all the effort you put into this! Cheers, Oliver On 30-Jan-18 23:22, Michael Everson wrote: http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/cr_files/639-3_ChangeRequests_2017_Summary.pdf

Re: [Langcom] Chinese Wikiversity

While I can't read/understand zh (and thus cannot say anything about the *quality* of the pages), I follow your argument. So at this stage, I'd be fine with approval. Oliver On 07-Feb-18 20:11, Steven White wrote: I'd like to open this subject up for discussion. Chinese Wikiversity is

Re: [Langcom] Nys wikipedia

So this remains a contentious issue. IIRC, previous discussion tried to come up with a plan for specialized wikis in heritage languages. Does a community where the majority (or even *every* community member) no longer speaks the original language have a right to preserve it in WMF projects? I

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Basque Wikisource

+1 from me Oliver On 23-Feb-18 17:02, Steven White wrote: Links: Language request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Basque Project: https://wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Euskara Discussion:

Re: [Langcom] Wiktionary requests (plus one related Wikipedia request) dating to the first half of 2011

Thanks, Steven, for your continued chipping away at the mountain of LangCom tasks. Your appointment as clerk turns out again and again to have been a very profitable decision. I concur with your suggestions in the five cases you listed here. Oliver On 23-Feb-18 17:13, Steven White wrote:

Re: [Langcom] Gorontalo Wikipedia

Glad to hear. I second your motion :) On 26-Feb-18 20:01, MF-Warburg wrote: Dear colleagues, Suleman Bouti from Universitas Negeri Gorontalo answered my request for content verification and confirmed that the content of the Gorontalo test-project on Incubator is in fact written in the

Re: [Langcom] Noongar Wikipedia

to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2018-05-24 9:31 GMT+03:00 Oliver Stegen <mailto:oliver_ste...@sil.org>>: As far as I understand, the English namespace of the Noongar wikipedia is not meant to be a duplication of English wikipedia articles but rather *translations* of Noongar

Re: [Langcom] Western Armenian - towards approval

Oh c'mon - there must be more Western Armenian scholars than just her, and even ones that haven't been involved with this project. LinguistList, the internet's largest linguistic database, lists 18 scholars for Armenian, see https://linguistlist.org/people/personal/browse-sc-action.cfm

Re: [Langcom] Western Armenian - towards approval

@Nicolas Sorry about the broken link, and thanks for the correction. Of course, Western Armenian doesn't show up in the drop-down menu because it hasn't been recognised as a separate language long enough, so presumably is subsumed. Of the 18 listed scholars, several have publications in

[Langcom] Oliver's absence

Dear all, just wanted to let you know that I'll be incommunicado from next week into October. So don't expect any responses from me. Sorry! Cheers, Oliver ___ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org

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