Re: [LU] Riots

2011-08-10 Thread Mark Humphries
: 09 August 2011 22:15 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Damian Walsh; leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Try reading it. I blamed new labour. I forgot about major's existence and I think you are on thin ice and some sort of Tory boy revisionist if you deny thatcher destroyed communities by rationalising

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2011-08-10 Thread Leeds List
Damien I live and work in Enfield and the riots took place about half a mile from my front door. With regard to making things better for everyone our local council spends more than two thirds of it's budget on one part of the borough, there is massive investment by us , the mayor of London,

Re: [LU] Riots

2011-08-10 Thread Mark Humphries
. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Eric B Sent: 10 August 2011 10:27 To: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) Cc: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots maybe they re not using plastic bullets because they dont want to risk

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2011-08-10 Thread matt
Agreed 100% Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Leeds List forzale...@aol.com Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:28:32 To: Damian Walshpussaydam...@gmail.com Cc: leedslistleedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Damien I live

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2011-08-10 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
agosto de 2011 12:08 To: Leeds List; Leeds list; Damian Walsh Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Agreed 100% Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo

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2011-08-10 Thread Eric B
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots maybe they re not using plastic bullets because they dont want to risk killing kids? After all this did start by someone being shot by the police. tear gas wont kill anyone so maybe thats a better idea. I note that quite a few people wants the army involved however I d

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2011-08-10 Thread Mark Humphries
: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I am not TRYING to link it to the guy that got shot. I am actually. I dont think its a coincidence he got shot by the police the same day this started. But thats my opinion only. Apparently another trigger was rough policing

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2011-08-10 Thread Mark Humphries
the march and started the violence. But don't let the facts get in the way of your political agenda! From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 August 2011 11:20 To: Mark Humphries Cc: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I am not TRYING to link

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2011-08-10 Thread Eric B
:* Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 10 August 2011 11:20 *To:* Mark Humphries *Cc:* McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist *Subject:* Re: [LU] Riots ** ** I am not TRYING to link it to the guy that got shot. I am actually. I dont think its a coincidence he got shot

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2011-08-10 Thread sinisterpicturesDB
After Mark Duggan was shot by police, (I have no problems with that, you carry a firearm it's a risk you run, tuff titty) that part of the highroad was closed off for a couple of days as a crime scene. This meant that locals were having to walk through a nearby park to bypass the closed off

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2011-08-10 Thread Mark Humphries
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Just cause I got the timelines does not make any difference to my statements. Me political agenda? you re having a laff mate, I ve never voted in my life. I bet you have. You heard it was the anarchist lot that started this? and then you ask me to get my facts right

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2011-08-10 Thread sinisterpicturesDB
To: Mark Humphries Cc: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Just cause I got the timelines does not make any difference to my statements. Me political agenda? you re having a laff mate, I ve never voted in my life. I bet you have. You

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2011-08-10 Thread Mark Humphries
To: Mark Humphries Cc: 'Eric B'; 'leedslist' Subject: Re: [LU] Riots After Mark Duggan was shot by police, (I have no problems with that, you carry a firearm it's a risk you run, tuff titty) that part of the highroad was closed off for a couple of days as a crime scene. This meant that locals were

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2011-08-10 Thread Mark Humphries
' Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I was there mark! On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:33, Mark Humphries wrote: Where did you get your info? I got mine from the million news reports we have had here in London since Saturday. Where do you live again? From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com

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2011-08-10 Thread Eric B
manc way, and therefore would not have seen all the London news. -Original Message- From: sinisterpicturesDB [mailto:sinisterpictu...@dogz-bollox.co.uk] Sent: 10 August 2011 12:42 To: Mark Humphries Cc: 'Eric B'; 'leedslist' Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I was there mark! On 10 Aug

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2011-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
Yeah one of my mates is in Clapham - looks horrendous. He posted a couple of vids. Said he witnessed some woman telling her kids to cover their face before they looted Argos. What the fck is going on? If it were football fans the fuzz woulda kicked the sht out of them by now. See it's spread

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2011-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Sent: 08 August 2011 19:46 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Riots Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing fck all. Shoot the cnuts... or at least set

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
with this? -Original Message- From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com] Sent: 09 August 2011 07:49 To: Matt Anderson Cc: Wayne; Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Yeah one of my mates is in Clapham - looks horrendous. He posted a couple of vids. Said he witnessed some woman telling

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
showing that police/army mean business ends it now and saves others -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Mark Humphries Sent: 09 August 2011 07:59 To: 'Wayne'; 'Leeds List' Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Water cannon with indelible ink

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
in. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ian Murray Sent: 09 August 2011 08:29 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Do we think there's a racial element to this? Sent from my iPhone On 9 Aug 2011

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2011-08-09 Thread Mark Humphries
-united.net] Sent: 09 August 2011 09:59 To: 'Ian Murray'; 'Mark Humphries' Cc: 'Leeds List' Subject: RE: [LU] Riots not in the way I think you mean however 80% of the rioters are young black/ mixed race youths. It cant be an excuse though it's more a product of environment (slums of Tottenham, hackney

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2011-08-09 Thread matt
...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [LU] Riots We said that, if it was Millwall fans (local scum to me) the police would have beaten them kicked them but (PC filter off) if it's a black or Asian youngster they won't touch them because for some reason they are a community. Yes, the police have been historically

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2011-08-09 Thread Tim Leslie
Andersonm...@leeds-united.net Reply-To: e...@morrish.org Cc: Leeds Listleedslist@gn.apc.org; Ian Murrayianjamesmur...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [LU] Riots We said that, if it was Millwall fans (local scum to me) the police would have beaten them kicked them but (PC filter off) if it's a black

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2011-08-09 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
Sent: martes, 09 de agosto de 2011 11:18 To: 'Matt Anderson'; 'Ian Murray' Cc: 'Leeds List' Subject: Re: [LU] Riots ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist

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2011-08-09 Thread Eric B
] On Behalf Of Wayne Sent: 08 August 2011 19:46 To: Leeds List Subject: [LU] Riots Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing fck all. Shoot the cnuts... or at least set the water cannons on them. Regards Wayne

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2011-08-09 Thread Mark Humphries
I said it wasn't racial. And our police have less powers than most, possibly all, other European countries so not sure what your point is. From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 August 2011 11:57 To: Ian Murray Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots hello

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2011-08-09 Thread matt
I'm a missionary sent here to run businesses while the cockneys drive taxis, sell flowers by the roadside and run market stalls --Original Message-- From: Tim Leslie To: m...@leeds-united.net Cc: e...@morrish.org Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Sent: 9 Aug 2011 11:06 What's

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2011-08-09 Thread matt
: [LU] Riots hello fellow east germans, based on what thinking is it racial? As far as I can see its a mix of ethnicities and colors. have you got other information? also, give the police more powers yeah? they ve got all the fucking CCTVs in the world, they ve got extreme powers and what happens

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2011-08-09 Thread matt
List'leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I said it wasn't racial. And our police have less powers than most, possibly all, other European countries so not sure what your point is. From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 August 2011 11:57 To: Ian Murray Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List

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2011-08-09 Thread John Boocock
On 09/08/2011 12:35, m...@leeds-united.net wrote: Even the 200 caught will end up free or even worse supposedly doing er, community service. I have two very close friends who have lost their livlihoods in North London thanks to the events of the past three nights. The people who did it

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2011-08-09 Thread Eric B
is. ** ** *From:* Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 August 2011 11:57 *To:* Ian Murray *Cc:* Mark Humphries; Leeds List *Subject:* Re: [LU] Riots ** ** hello fellow east germans, ** ** based on what thinking is it racial? As far as I can see its a mix

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
round this way so keep out of the town centre for the time being -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John Boocock Sent: 09 August 2011 13:10 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Riots On 09/08/2011 12:35, m

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
a caution and £50 fine! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Eric B Sent: 09 August 2011 14:27 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I was asking the person who asked if it was racial if that question

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2011-08-09 Thread Ted
Matt said Greenwich is being boarded up now, pictures on twitter, the new decent Turkish restaurant and the handbag shop, there is a mob gathering at Wetherspoons apparently. (classy) So, there's going to be a mean time in Greenwich? Ted H ___

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
Ha ha. Meantime is the name of the local brewery. Worth a try for you bitter drinking folk. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Ted Sent: 09 August 2011 14:56 To: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Matt said

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2011-08-09 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
I'll be off list for the next few days I'm off to sit in a field and ruminate. Bates out! Of your bed? :-) Sent from my iPhone. Dr Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist. On 9 Aug 2011, at 15:10, John Boocock j...@boocock.net wrote: On 09/08/2011 12:35,

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2011-08-09 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
...@blueyonder.co.uk Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:06:52 To: 'Eric B'barl...@gmail.com; 'Ian Murray'ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com Cc: 'Leeds List'leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I said it wasn't racial. And our police have less powers than most

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2011-08-09 Thread Nicholas Armit
: [LU] Riots Someone asked about Police in other countries. My tuppence: I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no reason. It's quite intimidating. So its hard to see why they lost control. So I guess the propensity to violence must be higher. I do know that the Police

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
the Maritime Museum. On this occasion as I’m sat in the middle of it I think I speak with a bit more authority than having an arse/opinion. From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 August 2011 16:30 To: Matt Anderson Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Eric how

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2011-08-09 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
of it I think I speak with a bit more authority than having an arse/opinion. From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 August 2011 16:30 To: Matt Anderson Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Eric how long have you lived in Britain? I suggest you watch Road Wars

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2011-08-09 Thread Eric B
...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Someone asked about Police in other countries. My tuppence: I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no reason. It's quite intimidating. So its hard to see why

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2011-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
To: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Leeds list leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Someone asked about Police in other countries. My tuppence: I have been astonished at the massive

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2011-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
? From: Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com To: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Leeds list leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Someone asked about Police

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2011-08-09 Thread Damian Walsh
There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on the list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it show how many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever true before. All we have to do is get the next generation of potential rioters in

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2011-08-09 Thread Mark Humphries
: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Eric B Sent: 09 August 2011 17:49 To: Nicholas Armit Cc: Leeds list; Leeds List; Dr. Michael Benjamin. Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Someone saying that justice is on the left or on the right is conflicting with justice and its

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2011-08-09 Thread Mark Humphries
2011 17:59 To: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on the list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it show how many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever true before. All we have to do is get

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2011-08-09 Thread Eric B
. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com To: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net Cc: Leeds list leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Someone asked about Police in other countries. My

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2011-08-09 Thread Mark Tuffey
The number of laws make no difference...the number of cops makes no difference...the party in power makes no difference...race makes no difference... all the while that accountability for ones actions cannot owned by the individual and instead his lack of accountability is projected onto other

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2011-08-09 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Someone asked about Police in other countries. My tuppence: I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no reason. It's quite intimidating. So its hard to see why they lost control. So I guess the propensity to violence must be higher. I do

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2011-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
: Leeds list leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Someone asked about Police in other countries. My tuppence: I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no reason. It's quite

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs and phones and the met's leadership or boris's holiday. That's nonsense. I bet 90% don't know who the mayor is Sent from my iPhone On 9 Aug 2011, at 17:59, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote: There's been an astonishing

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
: 09 August 2011 17:59 To: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on the list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it show how many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever true before. All

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2011-08-09 Thread Mark Humphries
blame Thatcher, lets blame Major, lets blame Cameron, lets blame Boris. Yawn. -Original Message- From: Matt Anderson [mailto:m...@leeds-united.net] Sent: 09 August 2011 20:38 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Damian Walsh; leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I agree in main but timeline starts

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2011-08-09 Thread Verner Hanna (Jnr)
Sent: 09 August 2011 21:48 To: 'Matt Anderson' Cc: 'leedslist' Subject: Re: [LU] Riots Again, bollox. The problem with this country is lack of personal responsibility - this attitude that the state controls everything and owes us all. The removal of competition at school, the removal of discipline

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2011-08-09 Thread Mark Humphries
given it or take it. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt Anderson Sent: 09 August 2011 20:26 To: Damian Walsh Cc: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
, lets blame Boris. Yawn. -Original Message- From: Matt Anderson [mailto:m...@leeds-united.net] Sent: 09 August 2011 20:38 To: Mark Humphries Cc: Damian Walsh; leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots I agree in main but timeline starts with thatcher There was always scumbags rogues

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2011-08-09 Thread Matt Anderson
-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt Anderson Sent: 09 August 2011 20:26 To: Damian Walsh Cc: leedslist Subject: Re: [LU] Riots There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs and phones and the met's leadership or boris's holiday. That's nonsense. I bet 90% don't know

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2011-08-09 Thread Steve Gillen
Wife was admitted to St James's Hospital this evening, and on my return home which was via Chapletown I saw at least 6 police vehicles heading at speed to different places with blue lights flashing - interestingly on one occasion in opposite directions on the same road. Saw no crowds and no

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2011-08-09 Thread Damian Walsh
Lots of responses to lots of points - its much easier down the pub ;) First of all, Steve - I hope your wife is OK and its nothing serious. Then the Met and the mayor: no leadership, who is handling these riots (looting without the rioting as far as we see from afar), Superindentants? Divisional

[LU] Riots

2011-08-08 Thread Wayne
Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing fck all. Shoot the cnuts... or at least set the water cannons on them. Regards Wayne ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: