: 09 August 2011 22:15
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: Damian Walsh; leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Try reading it. I blamed new labour.
I forgot about major's existence and I think you are on thin ice and some
sort of Tory boy revisionist if you deny thatcher destroyed communities by
rationalising
Damien
I live and work in Enfield and the riots took place about half a mile from my
front door. With regard to making things better for everyone our local council
spends more than two thirds of it's budget on one part of the borough, there is
massive investment by us , the mayor of London,
.
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Sent: 10 August 2011 10:27
To: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
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Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
maybe they re not using plastic bullets because they dont want to risk
Agreed 100%
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Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Damien
I live
agosto de 2011 12:08
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maybe they re not using plastic bullets because they dont want to risk
killing kids? After all this did start by someone being shot by the police.
tear gas wont kill anyone so maybe thats a better idea.
I note that quite a few people wants the army involved however I d
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Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I am not TRYING to link it to the guy that got shot. I am actually. I dont
think its a coincidence he got shot by the police the same day this started.
But thats my opinion only. Apparently another trigger was rough policing
the march
and started the violence.
But don't let the facts get in the way of your political agenda!
From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 August 2011 11:20
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I am not TRYING to link
:* Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 10 August 2011 11:20
*To:* Mark Humphries
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*Subject:* Re: [LU] Riots
** **
I am not TRYING to link it to the guy that got shot. I am actually. I dont
think its a coincidence he got shot
After Mark Duggan was shot by police, (I have no problems with that, you carry
a firearm it's a risk you run, tuff titty) that part of the highroad was closed
off for a couple of days as a crime scene. This meant that locals were having
to walk through a nearby park to bypass the closed off
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Just cause I got the timelines does not make any difference to my
statements.
Me political agenda? you re having a laff mate, I ve never voted in my life.
I bet you have.
You heard it was the anarchist lot that started this? and then you ask me
to get my facts right
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill); leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Just cause I got the timelines does not make any difference to my
statements.
Me political agenda? you re having a laff mate, I ve never voted in my life.
I bet you have.
You
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: 'Eric B'; 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
After Mark Duggan was shot by police, (I have no problems with that, you
carry a firearm it's a risk you run, tuff titty) that part of the highroad
was closed off for a couple of days as a crime scene. This meant that locals
were
'
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I was there mark!
On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:33, Mark Humphries wrote:
Where did you get your info?
I got mine from the million news reports we have had here in London
since Saturday.
Where do you live again?
From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com
manc way,
and therefore would not have seen all the London news.
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From: sinisterpicturesDB [mailto:sinisterpictu...@dogz-bollox.co.uk]
Sent: 10 August 2011 12:42
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: 'Eric B'; 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I was there mark!
On 10 Aug
Yeah one of my mates is in Clapham - looks horrendous. He posted a couple of
vids. Said he witnessed some woman telling her kids to cover their face before
they looted Argos.
What the fck is going on? If it were football fans the fuzz woulda kicked the
sht out of them by now. See it's spread
.
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Wayne
Sent: 08 August 2011 19:46
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Riots
Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing fck
all. Shoot the cnuts... or at least set
with this?
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From: Ian Murray [mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 07:49
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: Wayne; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Yeah one of my mates is in Clapham - looks horrendous. He posted a couple of
vids. Said he witnessed some woman telling
showing
that police/army mean business ends it now and saves others
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Humphries
Sent: 09 August 2011 07:59
To: 'Wayne'; 'Leeds List'
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Water cannon with indelible ink
in.
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Ian Murray
Sent: 09 August 2011 08:29
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Do we think there's a racial element to this?
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On 9 Aug 2011
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Sent: 09 August 2011 09:59
To: 'Ian Murray'; 'Mark Humphries'
Cc: 'Leeds List'
Subject: RE: [LU] Riots
not in the way I think you mean however 80% of the rioters are young black/
mixed race youths. It cant be an excuse though
it's more a product of environment (slums of Tottenham, hackney
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Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
We said that, if it was Millwall fans (local scum to me) the police would
have beaten them kicked them but (PC filter off) if it's a black or Asian
youngster they won't touch them because for some reason they are a
community.
Yes, the police have been historically
Andersonm...@leeds-united.net
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Cc: Leeds Listleedslist@gn.apc.org; Ian Murrayianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
We said that, if it was Millwall fans (local scum to me) the police would
have beaten them kicked them but (PC filter off) if it's a black
Sent: martes, 09 de agosto de 2011 11:18
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Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
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Behalf Of Wayne
Sent: 08 August 2011 19:46
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Riots
Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing fck
all. Shoot the cnuts... or at least set the water cannons on them.
Regards
Wayne
I said it wasn't racial.
And our police have less powers than most, possibly all, other European
countries so not sure what your point is.
From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 11:57
To: Ian Murray
Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
hello
I'm a missionary sent here to run businesses while the cockneys drive taxis,
sell flowers by the roadside and run market stalls
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From: Tim Leslie
To: m...@leeds-united.net
Cc: e...@morrish.org
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Sent: 9 Aug 2011 11:06
What's
: [LU] Riots
hello fellow east germans,
based on what thinking is it racial? As far as I can see its a mix of
ethnicities and colors. have you
got other information?
also, give the police more powers yeah? they ve got all the fucking CCTVs in
the world, they ve got
extreme powers and what happens
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Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I said it wasn't racial.
And our police have less powers than most, possibly all, other European
countries so not sure what your point is.
From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 11:57
To: Ian Murray
Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List
On 09/08/2011 12:35, m...@leeds-united.net wrote:
Even the 200 caught will end up free
or even worse supposedly doing er, community service.
I have two very close friends who have lost their livlihoods in North
London thanks to the events of the past three nights. The people who
did it
is.
** **
*From:* Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 09 August 2011 11:57
*To:* Ian Murray
*Cc:* Mark Humphries; Leeds List
*Subject:* Re: [LU] Riots
** **
hello fellow east germans,
** **
based on what thinking is it racial? As far as I can see its a mix
round this way so keep out of the town
centre for the time being
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of John Boocock
Sent: 09 August 2011 13:10
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
On 09/08/2011 12:35, m
a caution and £50 fine!
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Eric B
Sent: 09 August 2011 14:27
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I was asking the person who asked if it was racial if that question
Matt said
Greenwich is being boarded up now, pictures on twitter, the new decent
Turkish restaurant and the handbag shop, there is a mob gathering at
Wetherspoons apparently. (classy)
So, there's going to be a mean time in Greenwich?
Ted H
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Ted
Sent: 09 August 2011 14:56
To: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Matt said
I'll be off list for the next few days I'm off to sit in a field and
ruminate.
Bates out!
Of your bed?
:-)
Sent from my iPhone.
Dr Michael Benjamin.
Community Psychiatrist.
On 9 Aug 2011, at 15:10, John Boocock j...@boocock.net wrote:
On 09/08/2011 12:35,
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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:06:52
To: 'Eric B'barl...@gmail.com; 'Ian Murray'ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com
Cc: 'Leeds List'leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I said it wasn't racial.
And our police have less powers than most
: [LU] Riots
Someone asked about Police in other countries.
My tuppence:
I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no reason.
It's quite intimidating.
So its hard to see why they lost control.
So I guess the propensity to violence must be higher.
I do know that the Police
the Maritime Museum.
On this occasion as Im sat in the middle of it I think I speak with a bit
more authority than having an arse/opinion.
From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:30
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Eric how
of it I think I speak with a bit
more authority than having an arse/opinion.
From: Eric B [mailto:barl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 August 2011 16:30
To: Matt Anderson
Cc: Mark Humphries; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Eric how long have you lived in Britain? I suggest you watch Road Wars
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Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Someone asked about Police in other countries.
My tuppence:
I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no
reason. It's quite intimidating.
So its hard to see why
To: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
Cc: Leeds list leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List
leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Someone asked about Police in other countries.
My tuppence:
I have been astonished at the massive
?
From: Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com
To: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
Cc: Leeds list leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List
leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Someone asked about Police
There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on the
list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it show how
many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever true before.
All we have to do is get the next generation of potential rioters in
: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Eric B
Sent: 09 August 2011 17:49
To: Nicholas Armit
Cc: Leeds list; Leeds List; Dr. Michael Benjamin.
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Someone saying that justice is on the left or on the right is conflicting
with justice and its
2011 17:59
To: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on the
list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it show how
many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever true before.
All we have to do is get
. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com
To: m...@leeds-united.net m...@leeds-united.net
Cc: Leeds list leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org; Leeds List
leedslist@gn.apc.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Someone asked about Police in other countries.
My
The number of laws make no difference...the number of cops makes no
difference...the party in power makes no difference...race makes no
difference...
all the while that accountability for ones actions cannot owned by the
individual and instead his lack of accountability is projected onto other
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Someone asked about Police in other countries.
My tuppence:
I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no
reason. It's quite intimidating.
So its hard to see why they lost control.
So I guess the propensity to violence must be higher.
I do
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Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Someone asked about Police in other countries.
My tuppence:
I have been astonished at the massive presence with very little or no
reason. It's quite
There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs and phones and
the met's leadership or boris's holiday.
That's nonsense.
I bet 90% don't know who the mayor is
Sent from my iPhone
On 9 Aug 2011, at 17:59, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote:
There's been an astonishing
: 09 August 2011 17:59
To: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
There's been an astonishing amount of Colonel Blimp rubbish spouted on the
list about these riots. Probably a good thing because at least it show how
many more of us are now part of the establishment than was ever true before.
All
blame Thatcher, lets blame Major, lets blame Cameron, lets
blame Boris.
Yawn.
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From: Matt Anderson [mailto:m...@leeds-united.net]
Sent: 09 August 2011 20:38
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: Damian Walsh; leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I agree in main but timeline starts
Sent: 09 August 2011 21:48
To: 'Matt Anderson'
Cc: 'leedslist'
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
Again, bollox.
The problem with this country is lack of personal responsibility - this
attitude that the state controls everything and owes us all. The removal of
competition at school, the removal of discipline
given it or take it.
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From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Anderson
Sent: 09 August 2011 20:26
To: Damian Walsh
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs
, lets
blame Boris.
Yawn.
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From: Matt Anderson [mailto:m...@leeds-united.net]
Sent: 09 August 2011 20:38
To: Mark Humphries
Cc: Damian Walsh; leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
I agree in main but timeline starts with thatcher
There was always scumbags rogues
-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Anderson
Sent: 09 August 2011 20:26
To: Damian Walsh
Cc: leedslist
Subject: Re: [LU] Riots
There is no link at all between 15 year old chavs nicking tvs and phones and
the met's leadership or boris's holiday.
That's nonsense.
I bet 90% don't know
Wife was admitted to St James's Hospital this evening, and on my return
home which was via Chapletown I saw at least 6 police vehicles heading at
speed to different places with blue lights flashing - interestingly on one
occasion in opposite directions on the same road.
Saw no crowds and no
Lots of responses to lots of points - its much easier down the pub ;)
First of all, Steve - I hope your wife is OK and its nothing serious.
Then the Met and the mayor: no leadership, who is handling these riots
(looting without the rioting as far as we see from afar), Superindentants?
Divisional
Watching the London riots on TV.. can't believe the police are doing fck all.
Shoot the cnuts... or at least set the water cannons on them.
Regards
Wayne
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