[LegacyUG] Just updated to 7.5.0.270 pictures are now gone!
Its been many months since I've done anything with genealogy, so I don't know how old the update is ... but I just updated to build 270 and allowed it to modify the file. All the media is gone. Is there a quick way to restore it? Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Just updated to 7.5.0.270 pictures are now gone!
yep that worked thanks. not sure why the update caused legacy to forget where the files are, but no matter -- all set now. Thanks! On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.comwrote: Are the pictures not linked at all (picture icon under people who had pictures are no longer coloured) or is it just that Legacy is not able to find the pictures when you click on the picture icon? In one case all you need to do is point legacy to the right location, if no links exist however you will have to recreate them from scratch. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 25/10/2013 12:30 PM, Scott Hall wrote: Its been many months since I've done anything with genealogy, so I don't know how old the update is ... but I just updated to build 270 and allowed it to modify the file. All the media is gone. Is there a quick way to restore it? Thanks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Mass edit to Child-Parent Relationships
Hi... I have been using the Family Search add-on to bring additional data into my family file. Sometimes when doing this, the Child-Parent Relationship field is being updated. I would like an easy way to clear these records -- other than one-by-one. I can't figure out how to do a Search and Replace or any other way to mass edit the Child-Parent relationships in my file. Any ideas? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Centennia - is there anything similar for the UK
There is GenMap UK (http://www.archersoftware.co.uk/genmap01.htm), but I know little of it -- I think it may be more of a way to map your data than to provide you with boundary changes over time. Scott On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Olwyn Bourne dobou...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm nervous about asking a question which has possibly been asked a million times before but .Is there a UK equivalent to AniMap and Centennia? Regards Olwyn -- From: jbro...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 21:02:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Centennia To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Scott - I am a happy user of both AniMap and Centennia. The short answers to your questions are: Is Centennia as detailed as Animap - no. Is it worth its price - yes. First, I wish AniMap went to the township level, not just county (township being smaller political jurisdictions). In many counties of my ancestors the township changes were as significant for record finding as counties. You will find a similar problem in Centennia. Note that Centennia says it is based upon actual control of land, not political boundaries. Centennia has a free period of time download that you should check out before buying to see if the detail suits your need. I have found the mist value (to me) of Centennia to be able to see and understand the trials and tribulations of the populace at the various times and places of my immigrant ancestors homeland. That provides important insights into the why they emigrated question. Worth the price to me. John On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have an opinion on Centennia, the mapping software for Europe? I currently have AniMap and find it very useful for figuring out the history of county borders in the U.S. Is Centennia as detailed? Here's my situation -- I want to record place names in accordance with the common standard, that is, at the time the event occurred. I have an entire family who came from Saint Wendel, which is in the Saarland of Germany. Tracking the history of this region is not easy, as it has been, at various times in the last 200 years, part of Lichtenstein, Prussia, Bavaria, the German Empire, Germany, an independent state, and a protectorate of the United Nations. If Centennia does nothing more than show me the change in borders of Germany, that's probably not enough detail for me. I'd like to see the evolution of the Rheinland-Pflaz, and even, if possible Sankt Wendel Kreis, the district that Sankt Wendel sits in. So, particularly for users of AniMap, is Centennia worth its price? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Examples of marriage events?
I'll add that, like some others, I use the Marriage Events to record anything that related to the couple, rather than the individual. For example, I record the census under marriage when a couple appear together. Scott On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I add anything that happened to the family (as a whole, or part of e.g. mum and son, dad and three out of four children, mum and dad, the three siblings) - some examples are group photos, a family holiday, a census event. If, for arguments sake, I had a photo of a child's graduation and mum and dad are in the photo with the child I would add this as an event for the child, not the family - however, if it was a group photo take at a picnic I would include it as a marriage (read 'family') event because it isn't specific to any one person. If I find a census entry for one of the children on his / her own, they would get an individual event - but if the rest of the family was together at a different location that entry would still be a family / marriage event. I have also changed the wording for reports to something like The following involved [couplenames] and / or their children. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: julia m [mailto:aga...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 06:34 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Examples of marriage events? I'm a long time Legacy user but have never, ever added an Event in the Marriage Information section. I would like to know some examples of what could/should be added there? Maybe I'm adding some of my information to the individual when it actually should be an Event in the Marriage section. I don't know. I think I'm asking this because I started seeing discussions about some people adding the Census Event under the Marriage section (although I still need to wrap my head around that idea and why I should do it.) Thanks,Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?
Those of you critical of my approach are right -- it will be a lot of work to bring the source information into the proper format. I will say that even if I had all sourcing in (as I do for events like census), I still would use my note system as I want to track where differences are -- and see them at a glance -- which is the whole point of Research Notes. If I were doing this the ideal way, I'd track the data in notes AND record the sources against the data field. I didn't do this last step because I wasn't sure the best way to record multiple sources (the point of the OP's question) -- show every source, or decide which was the most viable? In my example, I have nine sources for my grandfather's name -- most of them identical to each other. I probably don't need to record 9 sources for one fact -- so which do I choose? The obituary, cemetery transcription, and census are all about equal levels of surety, but the only source of his middle name comes from the personal knowledge of my father, which is, by definition, less reliable than official sources. Even when I answer this question and decide which sources to link, I think that I would still wish to keep the Research Notes as they not only provide the at a glance reference I mentioned before, but also serve as a research log. I know I don't need to search out his obituary, or look for him in the SSDI -- I've already done that and capture what those sources said. Scott On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Scott: To each his own, but I sincerely hope that Legacy users don’t jump on this particular bandwagon. Years ago I was an FTM user and the sourcing capability was so weak that I too put everything in Notes. On switching to Legacy I found that converting those notes to proper sources was a major project. When the tools are there to allow doing it right, it's *so* much better to use them. Kirsten From: Scott Hall Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact? I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page. I do this because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need official sources as end notes right now. At some point, I will have to consider how to move my source information. I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply). Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes, such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said. For example, here are the research notes for my grandfather: *** Name CEM-MoCC: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1920: Donald H. HALL CEN-US1930: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL (1) OBIT-RDC: Donald HALL (2) (3) PK-EGH: Donald Higgins HALL RCA-HMR: Donald HALL SSDI-RW: Donald HALL Birth CEM-MoCC: 1913 CEN-US1920: 6y [bet 2 Jan 1913 - 1 Jan 1914]; New York CEN-US1930: 17y [bet 2 Apr 1912 - 1 Apr 1913]; New York SSDI-RW: 6 Mar 1913 PK-EGH: White City, NY Death CEM-MoCC: 1976 OBIT-RDC: 15 Jun 1976 PK-EGH: Rochester, NY SSDI-RW: Jun 1976 Burial CEM-MoCC: West Webster Cem., Webster, NY OBIT-RDC: cal 18 Jun 1976; West Webster Cem., Webster, NY SSN SSDI-RW: 715-01-9675 Notes (1) Per father Fred's obituary [RIN 7]. (2) Per mother Nina's obituary [RIN 8]. (3) Per brother Gerald's obituary [RIN 38]. *** You can see, for example, that his name is sourced from various places -- Cemetery records (CEM-MoCC), Census records (CEN-US), Obituaries (OBIT-xxx), Marriage records (RCA-HMR), the SSDI (SSDI-xx), and the personal knowledge of my father (PK-EGH). Scott On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote: I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example: You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source. Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I find them?!? Thanks, Julia Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http
Re: [LegacyUG] Burial plot number
I use Burial Notes On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.comwrote: I put it in the event notes. I have cemetery as an event. I put a transcription of the marker and plot location if there is one. Michele From: Rita Lynn McKale [mailto:cagr...@comporium.net] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Burial plot number I would like to know where others record a cemetery plot number. Is there a specific place (that I can’t seem to find) for this or is everyone just putting this in Notes somewhere? Thanks, Rita in South Carolina Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Adding second spouse as blank record (both given and surname unknown)
Hi. I am a new user of Legacy, and have come across a challenge I can't figure out. If one doesn't know an ancestor's parents, Legacy will use a blank record, thus enabling me to enter siblings even though no parent appears. But, I can't figure out how to do that in other situations. The one specifically I am dealing with is a second wife. I know she existed, but have no record of her name. There was a child. I'd rather not clutter my file with records of Unknowns and like that Legacy uses blank records. So, if I want to enter this child, how do I do it? When I try, Legacy keeps trying to link the child to the ancestor's first wife. I hope I'm being clear. Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Upgrading to latest build?
New user here. I see some discussion about 7.4.0.19. When I check my version, I'm on 7.4.0.6. How do I upgrade? I could not find a Check for Updates option in the program, nor did I see any update download, other than the full program, on the site. Thanks in advance... Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrading to latest build?
Thanks Ron. Always takes a few messages to learn the rules! Here's another rule question -- I see most message subjects start with [LegacyUG]. Is this manually entered by the sender, or automatically put in by the mail list? I didn't see anything about it in the ettiquette link. Same question for the rules, etc. when posting a new message. Perhaps its just the way Gmail shows it, but they came across in a seperate message. Thanks, Scott On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Scott, Welcome! In Legacy, under the HOME tab, on the righthand side you will see a box which will tell you if there is an update, if so just click and it will update your program For information, downloading and installing the full program will also be fine as only the latest files will be installed. Neither method will affect your data, *but* in common with updates of any program do ensure your back-up is up to date - just in case! By the way, As a new user you are probably not aware that all posts should be in Plain Text and not HTML (Rich Text). Oh, and the Legacy rules etc. for using this site should be deleted when replying to posts. These rules are intended in part to keep the size down for the many users who are on metered dial-up. Ron Ferguson _ Create your Website with Legacy, see Tutorials at: http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ - Original Message - From: Scott Hall To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: 16 March 2010 01:37 Subject: [LegacyUG] Upgrading to latest build? New user here. I see some discussion about 7.4.0.19. When I check my version, I'm on 7.4.0.6. How do I upgrade? I could not find a Check for Updates option in the program, nor did I see any update download, other than the full program, on the site. Thanks in advance... Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Three source questions
1. What do people put under source for name? All records/books/materials discovered in which the name appears? Only the one it was first discovered? Something else? Nothing? 2. When using a published lineage book as a source (such as the many family genealogy books published in the 19th century), in which a family line may go on for multiple pages, do you attach each fact to the particular page it was found, or simply use the page range for any and all facts (e.g. pp. 102-5)? 3. What do people use the Unspecified source line for? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Three source questions
Thanks for the replies. The reason I was asking about names is because one of my principal sources is a Settler's History published some 160 years ago which lists the genealogy and descendants of the first settlers in a particular area. It is from this book, for example, that I know Ancestor #1 had 4 children, who's names were A, B, C, and D. I know nothing else about A, B, C, or D -- no birth dates, marriage dates, death dates. I only know their names and parentage. I want to be sure my file answers the question why do I think A existed and was a child of Ancestor #1? For some names, however, additional research yields the missing pieces. The name may appear in other lineage books, or other source materials. Let's say I find A listed in another book, with his birthdate. Obviously, I'll reference the second book as the source of the birthdate, but should I also cite the book under name? Perhaps my source citation under name should simply be the first place I discovered the name. A similar situation occurs when Book #1 lists a person as Joe Nobody, and Book #2 helps clarify that it was actually Joe C. Nobody. If I only souce Book #1 under name, I haven't really linked to why I know Joe's middle initial. Thinking aloud as I write this, perhaps this is a good solution: 1. Under name, cite the first source where the person is discovered; that is, evidence of his or her existence. 2. If other sources fill in the details, cite that source for those details only. 3. If other sources enhance knowledge about the name, cite those sources under name. 4. If two sources conflict, use the Alt. events and cite each line seperately; keeping the most likely data in the main entry. Now, under this rule, if I had run across the other sources first, I wouldn't have included the first source, but that's a detail I can live with. I suppose I could eliminate the first source if the second clearly evidences the person's existence, or I could leave both as confirming sources (maybe source #1 is a lineage, and source #2 is a marriage record -- I wouldn't want to leave open the question of How do you know THIS Joe Nobody is the same Joe Nobody whose children were A, B, C, and D? Because the two sources, together, confirm it. Thoughts? I'm probably overthinking this, but one of my major file improvement objectives is accurate and thorough source citation -- of course, without excessive source citations. On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com wrote: Scott Hall wrote: 1. What do people put under source for name? All records/books/materials discovered in which the name appears? Only the one it was first discovered? Something else? Nothing? If you're asking what source(s) I assign to the person's name, mostly, I put those sources which tend to prove the parentage of the person, like census records where the person is listed as a son in the father's household, or a will in which the person is named as an heir. I certainly don't put every single place I find the name. If the person is usually found in records as John, but I find an odd record that refers to him as Johnathan, I enter Johnathan as an Alt. Name and assign a source to the Alt. Name. 2. When using a published lineage book as a source (such as the many family genealogy books published in the 19th century), in which a family line may go on for multiple pages, do you attach each fact to the particular page it was found, or simply use the page range for any and all facts (e.g. pp. 102-5)? I always put the specific page where I can find the data I'm entering. If John Doe's birth date is on p. 102, that is the source detail (page #) that goes in the birth date field. If his death date is on p. 103, then p. 103 is the source detail for the date of death field. You want to be able to easily find where you found a piece of information, and for your readers to be able to do the same thing. 3. What do people use the Unspecified source line for? I never use it. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Generic search?
Is there a way to do a general search in Legacy? For example, I'm trying to find any place -- any field, that is -- where Kittitas county is... it could be in birth, death, event, anything ... even in source, it could be in multiple places if there are a few towns within the county in the location master. I've learned that the County Finder in Legacy has a typo for this county -- it spells it incorrectly as Kittias, omitting the third T. I want to update my file with the correct spelling, but don't want to have to hunt for every instance. Why is there no Find Anywhere option? Thanks! Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Citing city directories
I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city directories. I've looked through the archives and gleaned some information, but still need some advice. Like a lot of you, I rely heavily on Elizabeth Shown Mill's book to guide how my citations should look. Occassaionaly, I also use sites like the ProGenealogist for help. I think it important that sources be cited accurately and completely; not just so one can go back and find the document again, but to ensure consistency of formatting, proper attribution, and professional standards. The challenge I seem to run into is that while the SourceWriter is an excellent tool, it still seems a little deficient when using sources that are digitized and made available online. The challenge I'm currently having is with city directories, which, as people are likely familar, are published across multiple years, sometimes with different titles and publishers. I'm currently working with the Rochester, NY city directories. Here is my dilemmas and question: I'm using multiple years/volumes (75 years so far) to track and record people's residences and occupations. I'd like to avoid having 75 master sources (one for each year). Instead, having a generic citation for the years in which the same publisher published the directory is my intent. For Rochester, the directory was published by C. C. Drew in 1869-71, who became Drew, Allis Co. from 1872-43, and then The Drew Allis Company from 1844-1918. During these years, the directory's title remained the same. I can accomplish that by simply putting all of the years in the publish date, or by using a grouping such as 1869-1918. However, when I get to the detail source I seem to be stuck. I can figure out no way to show that person B appears in the 1871 directory (volume 22) on page 150, in the 1872 directory (volume 23) on page 156, in the 1873 directory (volume 24) on page 206, etc. in a single citation. I *could* have multiple detail citations pointing to the one master, but is this any better than having multiple masters? Thoughts? How have you handled this? What I want to avoid is having one master source, entering tons of information, and then realizing that to be accurate or proper each should have their own reference. I am not aware of an easy way to split master sources other than finding the detailed information and changing it one by one by one--a process I do not wish to do. Secondly, is there any way to edit the automatic formatting in the master source? For example, if I wanted to add bracketed information such as [various subtitles] after the title, but do not want it italicized, can I do that somehow? Lastly, unrleated to the above--is there any way to copy a master source such that specific details could be edited rather than retyped? I currently have 82 master sources for federal censuses (one for each county each year), which is necessary to have the proper citation. After typing HertiageQuest Online in for the 40th time, I was sure wishing I could simply copy the master source ... yes, copy and paste will work, but only for a single line. I used it to avoid typing http://www.hertiagequestonline.com; 82 times. Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories
Jenny I'm using SourceWriter, but not committed to it. If Basic provides the better answer, I'll use that. Ward Thanks for the reply. Having multiple detail citations will be a pain, especially given a single event (example: Joe Smith lived at 123 Main Street from 1901-1924 -- I'd have one residence event, not 24 of them. But will I need to have 24 detail citations?) Regarding my third question, it isn't the detail I'm trying to copy ... its master sources. Often master sources will be very similar (such as the census), and having the ability to copy or duplicate one master source would be a faster way to create the second one. Make sense? Thanks On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Scott Hall wrote I'm a little stumped at the best way to use Legacy to cite city directories. Are you using SourceWriter or Basic? -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Citing city directories
Rick/Jenny , well that worked like a charm!! Thanks ... On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Rick Bowden bowd...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Scott, To create a copy of a Master Source you must create at least one detail citation using it. Once you have done that you can simply go to the Master Source list and edit that Master Source and make the changes which you require. When you save the Master Source you are given two options , 1 to apply the changes to all references of this Master Source and 2 to apply the changes to a New Copy of this Master Source. It's always a good move to create at least one detail citation as soon as possible after creating a Master Source as it is very easy to forget that the Master is unused. If you then make changes to it thinking that you are going to create a copy , Legacy will simply assume that you are putting the finishing touches to your Master and will save the changes without the New Copy option. Rick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Using multiple sources to complete record
How do you handle the use of multiple sources to complete a single record (i.e. name, birthdate, etc.)? I know you can have multiple sources attached to a single record, but how do you record from which source each piece came from? For example let's say Source A provided the birth date for John Smith. I type in the date and cite the source. But Source A provides no detail on the birthplace. Source B, however, does. I enter the birthplace from Source B and cite that source as well. Now, for birthdate/place, two sources are cited, but short of reviewing the sources themselves again, I won't recall why two sources were needed, or which piece of information came from which source. Do you fill out this level of detail in the source notes? Do you print them in your citation? This comes up a lot for dates and place, but also for names ... especially when one source gives first last, a second source adds the middle initial, and a third source completes the middle name. How do you track this? Thanks! Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Group sheets etc. NOT provided by compiler
Hey all ... is there any way to build a citation when a family group record, GEDCOM file, etc. is provided by someone OTHER than the compiler? For example, my great uncle gave me a bunch of Family Group Sheets a dozen years ago. He was NOT the compiler. I have no idea who was, and my uncle is now dead. So, supplied by should be him, shouldn't it? What if I knew the compiler was, say, his older brother? How can I build the citation in Legacy to say Uncle A, compiler; supplied by Uncle B? Thanks... Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Formatting not sticking on citation comments?
Has anyone else noticed that if you enter comments in the citiation comments section and then apply formatting (such as italics), the next time you use that citation, the formatting is reset? To replicate: Enter data, enter source, add comments in source detail comments. Format comments. Select Add these comments ... Save. Enter data on differnet line, add source, note in comments formatting is removed. This should not occur. If I am replicating a source, including comments (used to enhance citiations), the replication should be exactly as I first entered it. I'll add to the troubleshooting report if others see this. I don't know if this is limited to the latest build. Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Another search question
Given the discovery that formatting on the source comments doesn't stick, I want to verify that all formats I intended are proper. However, I can find no way to search for all records where there is a comment in the source detail comments section. I'm not looking for any particular comment, just any comment. I continue to be frustrated by what seems to be Legacy's restrictive search capabilities. This is my second genealogy program, and I do not recall having these types of search issues with the former program (Sierra's Generations, no longer published). I appreciate that the nature of the database may be to blame, but the above question is a perfect example of something that seems to me a search I should able to do. So, how to perform this search: Find all individuals where detail source comments are not null (blank). Thanks for guidance with my specific question and any comments on searching in general (especially compared to other genealogy programs). Are my expectations missplaced? Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Formatting not sticking on citation comments?
7.4.0.38 also. Here's an additional discovery that's odd ... If I open the Edit the Source Detail text box, the formatting is gone ... even in the box I just applied it to. The output preview does not show the formatting either. If I do not save it, and return to the Assigned Sources for: screen, under the tab Text/Comments, the formatting is applied and correct. I closed and reopened the program, but still get the same result. Can you try again to replicate? I'd sent an attachment to show you, but its against the mail list rules. On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Robert Carneal USA carnea...@roadrunner.com wrote: Scott, I couldn't repeat that, but all that means is we have something different. Which version are you using? I am using 7.4.0.38. Robert At 2010-04-26 01:20 PM, you wrote: Has anyone else noticed that if you enter comments in the citiation comments section and then apply formatting (such as italics), the next time you use that citation, the formatting is reset? To replicate: Enter data, enter source, add comments in source detail comments. Format comments. Select Add these comments ... Save. Enter data on differnet line, add source, note in comments formatting is removed. This should not occur. If I am replicating a source, including comments (used to enhance citiations), the replication should be exactly as I first entered it. I'll add to the troubleshooting report if others see this. I don't know if this is limited to the latest build. Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Formatting not sticking on citation comments?
Brian: I sent you the following, with screenshots, to your e-mail: The easiest way to see this is via screen shot. Please see attached. For the person attached I entered the birth information, hit ALT+2 to record the Master Source. Prompt for Detail is enabled, so the Source Clipboard appeared. Under Text/Comments I typed some additional citation information, for which the citation rules require a portion to be italicized. (Screen shot 1). I hightlighted the material and clicked the italicize button. The text, as expected, italicized. (Screen Shot 2). Notice that the Output Preview changed as well. I clicked Add this Source Citation ... I saved the record and noticed on the Assigned Sources screen, the Detail Comments shows the additional text properly formatted (Screen Shot 3). BUT .. when I re-enter the Source Detail screen, and click the Text/Comments tab, the formatting has been removed. (Screen Shot 4). If I click Save again, the formatting has now been removed on the Assigned Sources screen as well. (Screen Shot 5). The additional place this occurs is when entering data on another line, say Death. Because Legacy remembers the data in the Source Detail clipboard, when I hit ALT+2 and the clipboard appears, all of the information I had entered before is still there ... good, because they came from the same source. But, I can't simply save because the Source Detail formatting is wrong -- in this case, the italicized portion is no longer italicized. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: I cannot duplicate this problem. When I saved formatted comment text for either the Master Source or the Source Details, copied that to the source clipboard and pasted the clipboard to the next data the format for both the Text and Comments were retained. Perhaps you should expand on the detail in the steps you said to use. Especially on how you are adding the source details when you get to the next data you enter. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 26/04/2010 2:20 PM, Scott Hall wrote: Has anyone else noticed that if you enter comments in the citiation comments section and then apply formatting (such as italics), the next time you use that citation, the formatting is reset? To replicate: Enter data, enter source, add comments in source detail comments. Format comments. Select Add these comments ... Save. Enter data on differnet line, add source, note in comments formatting is removed. This should not occur. If I am replicating a source, including comments (used to enhance citiations), the replication should be exactly as I first entered it. I'll add to the troubleshooting report if others see this. I don't know if this is limited to the latest build. Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Missing citation in Mills' book for family trees found online?
OK, Elizabeth Shown Mills fans ... while I like Mills' book a lot, it still seems a little light on information found online. I can find no information on how to properly cite family trees and GEDCOMs files published to the web. ProGenealogists provides guidance, but beause Legacy Source Writer's tempates are based on Mills book and she seem to omit this source, I can't find a good Source Writer template to use. Even though the data extracted is a secondary source, until it is verified and repalced with a primary source, I want to ensure its cited properly. For all you neurotic, gotta-get-the-citation-right researchers like me, which template do you use? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Missing citation in Mills' book for family trees found online?
Thanks all ... the templates for online database have worked well. I note with interest that this template has at the detail level a credit line field, but the GEDCOM template does not. A suggestion for Millenia -- all secondary source templates should have this line. Thanks for the replies ... Scott On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote: Dan Bateham wrote I believe that for the online family trees, the generic online database template would work, with fields filled out to match _EE_ as appropriate. (see page 156 - section 3.44). That's what I use. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] GPS settings format for Legacy?
Yes, Legacy's format is D-M-S. You can use the coordinates calculator to convert to D-M-S if need be, or you can calculate yourself, multiplying or dividing by 60 as appropriate. For example, GPS devices often use Degrees-Minutes and fractions of minutes rather than seconds. A latitude reading of 40 35.202 (40 degrees, 35.202 minutes) would convert to 40-75-12.12 in D-M-S format (.144 x 60 = 8.64). Sites like Epodunk use decimal degress only, for example 40.5867 degrees. To convert to D-M-S, multiple the decimals by 60, and repeat = 40 degrees plus .5867 x 60 = 35.202 minutes plus .202 x 60 = 12.12 seconds, or 40d 35m 12.12s. Make sense? Scott On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mary Fowler Leek ml...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Is the Legacy preferred format for GPS settings degree's, minutes and seconds? Sorry to be so dense but I'm totally ignorant of how to enter the GPS locations in Legacy and I 'think' there are two GPS recognized formats for entering a location. My thanks, Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] GPS settings format for Legacy?
Wow .. sorry for the typos down there !!! Let me repost this. The first paragraph was a mess. This is better: Yes, Legacy's format is D-M-S. You can use the coordinates calculator to convert to D-M-S if need be, or you can calculate yourself, multiplying or dividing by 60 as appropriate. For example, GPS devices often use Degrees-Minutes and fractions of minutes rather than seconds. A latitude reading of 40 35.202 (40 degrees, 35.202 minutes) would convert to 40-35-12.12 in D-M-S format (.202 x 60 = 12.12). Sites like Epodunk use decimal degress only, for example 40.5867 degrees. To convert to D-M-S, multiple the decimals by 60, and repeat = 40 degrees plus .5867 x 60 = 35.202 minutes plus .202 x 60 = 12.12 seconds, or 40d 35m 12.12s. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Legacy's format is D-M-S. You can use the coordinates calculator to convert to D-M-S if need be, or you can calculate yourself, multiplying or dividing by 60 as appropriate. For example, GPS devices often use Degrees-Minutes and fractions of minutes rather than seconds. A latitude reading of 40 35.202 (40 degrees, 35.202 minutes) would convert to 40-75-12.12 in D-M-S format (.144 x 60 = 8.64). Sites like Epodunk use decimal degress only, for example 40.5867 degrees. To convert to D-M-S, multiple the decimals by 60, and repeat = 40 degrees plus .5867 x 60 = 35.202 minutes plus .202 x 60 = 12.12 seconds, or 40d 35m 12.12s. Make sense? Scott On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mary Fowler Leek ml...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Is the Legacy preferred format for GPS settings degree's, minutes and seconds? Sorry to be so dense but I'm totally ignorant of how to enter the GPS locations in Legacy and I 'think' there are two GPS recognized formats for entering a location. My thanks, Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Power outage now errors and other issues
Tonight the power blipped out for about 12 seconds while I was using Legacy. When it returned, I restarted my computer and restarted Legacy ... but now the program is doing all sorts of funky things. It starts by asking me what report fonts I want, and then tells me it can't find a printer. When I'm in the database, I notice it has reset a bunch of options (like the headers on the Index View). When entering new people I get the error message 3021: No current record. Try again? If I click no, all seems well. Why would Legacy flip out because it wasn't shut off properly? Power outages happen. How do I get the program to operate normal again? Do I need to uninstall and reinstall? If so, how can I not have to redo every custom setting? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Power outage now errors and other issues
As a rule I backup everytime I exit Legacy, and am glad the program prompts you to. I'm also happy about the File Repair feature, which along with the instructions on the specific error, solved the issue. I remain a little puzzled why some settings (such as the headers in the Index View) reverted to their defaults after the power outage, but these are minor compared to the potential of a corrupted database. Fortunately, that turned out to not be the case for me. The battery idea is a good one ... I may look into that. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote: On 2010/05/06 19:29, leo macdonald wrote: I agree with Charles, you need to backup frequently and not just to your computer, use DVD's, USP's, external harddrives, unline websites, whatever you have at hand because a power surge could destroy your computer's hard drive. Here in South Africa, this is a common problem. On the high-veldt here, we are prone to some very violent thunderstorms which can knock the power out or make it dip. We make extensive use of Surge Protection on mains outlets and, indeed, on telephone jacks. Doesn't stop the power outages or data corruptions, but it does help to prevent lightening entering the house. Glad to know that other people around the world are facing similar problems :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Copy Event
A search of the archives found an message thread from 2008 that said there was no way to copy existing events in the Event Master to create new ones. It appears this is still the case. Want to check to see if I'm missing something. If not, this would be a great addition to future versions ... having to retype each sentence option is a pain. (I'm creating the missing Alt. Marriage and would like to use Alt. Birth or Alt. Death as a template -- also, I want to create Disproven events in the same way -- right now, this is a somewhat laborious processes) Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A simple search question
That did it! Thanks... On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 13:57:54 -0400, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: How do you search for anything within a field? For example, I want to search for any individual with any text in the General Notes field. The asterisk is for zero or more characters, the ? is only when a single character exists... I've experimented with all of the wildcards and can't get it to work. Try: ?* -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] A simple search question
That works also. Now I have options! :) On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Mary Fowler Leek ml...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Scott, Click on Search: Click on: Detailed Search tab Look for: Individual Where to look: Notes-General How to look: Not Equal To What to look for: don't have ANYTHING showing in this box, it should visually appear blank/empty tick Clear List before this search Click on Create List This should provide a list of everyone who has something entered in their General Notes. Mary - From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com How do you search for anything within a field? For example, I want to search for any individual with any text in the General Notes field. The asterisk is for zero or more characters, the ? is only when a single character exists... I've experimented with all of the wildcards and can't get it to work. What am I misssing? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] When a married couple have the same grandparents, how highlight this?
Does LTools have this feature? I haven't used that program yet, but when I previewed it I thought I remember seeing the option. Scott On 5/20/10, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote If A and B are siblings, then that is the relationship that is closest, and should be used. In my own family, I am my 3rd, 5th and 7th cousin to myself; but I would not call my brother my 3rd cousin, or my sister my 5th cousin. It is not inaccurate, but can be misleading. I agree the marriage of siblings can cause many medical and legal issues, but that is customs, morals, and medical. A and B chose this situation, aware of the taboo additude of society, computers and programs don't make judgement calls, people do. Whoa! How did we get on to morals and taboos and so on? All the OP wanted to know was whether Legacy could or should alert us when we are entering individuals who are or could be duplicates of people already in our file. In this case the OP had entered a husband and wife and their respective sets of parents grandparents, without realising that the parents were siblings and thus shared the same grandparents. I believe FTM does says something like Is this Joe Bloggs the same as the other Joe Bloggs? but Legacy doesn't do that. I think it's something which could be requested (Suggest a new feature on Legacy Home tab) but if it was ever incorporated, I hope it would be an option to select or not. Personally, I would switch it off! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Sent from my mobile device Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Two Citation Questions...
Hey smithrmp... I, too, am learning the best way to record information in the database, and like you, started over when I bought Legacy, re-entering all of the information I had from an earlier program. Even now, however, I still am learning on the fly thus having to update or correct information and sources to ensure the data is recorded accurately, that I have a clear picture of where each piece of datum came from, and that the source citations are proper. In regards to different sources providing different pieces of the puzzle, I began to use detailed research notes. I assign each master source a File ID and list where each component came from. For example, I learned the birthdate and location of one person in my file, Egbert Pennington Hall, from a GEDCOM file provided to me from another genealogist. Because this file was a bit lackidasical in citing its sources, I've decided to give all data obtained from it with a surety level 1, and aim to replace it with more credible sources when they are discovered. The 1900 census is a more credible source, and corroborates some of the information (specifically month, year, and state). The Social Security Death Index is also a more credible source, and also corroborates some of the information (inlcuding day, month, and year). The city where Egbert was born is in neither of the the census nor the SSDI, and so my source for that remains the GEDCOM file. My research notes state: Birth CEN-1900-F: Month; Year; State SSDI-RW: Day GEDCOM-HAF: City/Town The codes are my file IDs for the three sources. Alternatively, I could note that the SSDI-RW also includes the month and year, but have not yet decided if I wish to do this or not. I struggle between recording corroborating sources and not wanting an index of every single place I found information about this person when such information is identical to that obtained elsewhere. I am curious how others handle this. I only use Alt. events when information conflicts. Say, for example, the 1900 census says Egbert was born in Pennsylvania, but the GEDCOM says New York. In this case I'd list the date of birth but not the location in the Birth field, citing the census and the SSDI and listing each in the Research Notes. I'd then create an Alt. Birth event with the information from the GEDCOM file. If I later prove the GEDCOM file to be incorrect, I'd eliminate the event entirely and make no mention of it (because the GEDCOM is a secondary source). If, however, I discover the census to be incorrect, I'd move that data to the Alt. Birth event and change the event name to Disp. [Disproven] Birth and maintain it as a permanent record, although one I'd supress from reports. Alternatively, I might also use the research notes to list the incorrect information, as I did with this relative, who's name appears differently in multiple censuses: Michael Thein Research Notes: Name A number of alternate spellings are found throughout the census records, all of which are considered errors and thus excluded from this database. They are: CEN-1850-F: Michael TINE CEN-1860-F; Michael THEIN (accurate) CEN-1870-F: Michael THEIM CEN-1880-F: Michael THIN CEN-1900-F: Michael THIEM CEN-1910-F: Michal THEIN I am still working out the best way to record multiple sources and conflicting information, and have not perfected a method. Scott On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:44 PM, smithmp smit...@hughes.net wrote: I used to say that I was researching my genealogy. Now, after over 15 years, I have started over because much of what I had gathered in the beginning did not have a source citation attached. Nor did I know anything about putting notes in the research section so that when I came back to a person after a very long time I would know what I had already searched and where I thought I might search next. I guess I should have just called it Gathering Family Folktales. As painful as it is, I have started over, using my old database as just a reference point. I have come up with a couple of problems. 1. There are times when I find in a source only the date of an event such as a birth date but no location. Then I'll find just the location but not the date or at least not the full date. How do I source it in Legacy to reflect that a source had half of the birth date and another source had the other half with out having to put an alt. birth event? Or is this the only way to do this? Because if this is so then reports like the Pedegree chart will only list half of the information. 2. I have begun using the to-do feature in Legacy and have found it a wonderful resource for keeping track of where I've looked and what my thoughts were on a specific piece of research. Even if I looked at a source and did not find anything in it for what I am looking for, I add it as a source on that particular to-do item with a notation in the source detail that I did not find anything concerning the
[LegacyUG] Sourcing question
Hey Sourcing experts ... I'm stumped. How do I cite this source? The City of Rochester, NY owns two cemeteries, Mount Hope Cemetery and Riverside Cemeteries. The cemetery records for each cemetery, from their opening through 2002 have been scanned and are available online at a site hosted by the Department of Rare Books Special Collections of the River Campus Libraries of the University of Rochester. To comply with the rules, I won't post the link, but you can find it by simply Googling Mount Hope Cemetery Records. To comply with the source of a source rules and the guidelines set out by Elizabeth Shown Mills, how would you properly cite this in Legacy with SourceWriter? I can't really find a good example in Mills' book, nor can I find a good template to use. Could someone put together a citation for me? Many thanks! Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing question
Hey all... thanks for the dialog. Here's what I currently built, using the Cemetery Records template. University of Rochester River Campus Libraries—Department of Rare Books, Special Collections and Preservation, Mt. Hope Riverside Cemetery Records Database and images (http://www.lib.rochester.edu/index.cfm?page=3310 : accessed 5 May 2010), George B. Oswold (interred 10 August 1935); Mount Hope Cemetery Office. Italics are removed, of course, due to the Plain Text formatting. Some of the replies made an assumption that my source is a database—it is not. They are online images of the interrment books of each cemetery. The books were first scanned onto microfilm, and the microfilm rolls were made available online. The online images are hosted at the University of Rochester's River Campus Libraries. So, in essence, its an online image provided by the U of R of a microfilm created by who knows of the official records of each cemetery. The index combines both of the cemeteries, although when you click on any particular link, you'll go to the image of a particular page of a particular microfilm sheet which is a particular page of a particular book of a particular cemetery. Whew! It's basically like HeritageQuest's images of the censuses, and thus probably should be cited similar to those censues (an example is below), but I'm not sure the best way to do this. Is my citation above adequate or would Ms. Mills shake her head and say nice try, but ...? 1900 U.S. census, Monroe County, New York population schedule, Rochester, enumeration district (ED) 44, sheet 2B, p. 12 (stamped), dwelling 29, family 32, George B. Oswald [Oswold]; digital images, HeritageQuest Online (http://www.heritagequestonline.com : accessed 8 May 2010); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm T623, roll 1074. Continued thanks... Scott On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Scott: Do consider what you want the lead element in the citation to be. Personally I'd like it to be the name of the cemetery. Using one of the cemetery templates it's then easy enough to state that the transcription comes from an online database and any of the other pertinent details. Another researcher might use the URL that you would include (assuming it would still be valid), or possibly go to the university to find the original cemetery records, or even go to the cemetery itself to search out the marker. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Scott Hall [mailto:seh0...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:36 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcing question Hey Sourcing experts ... I'm stumped. How do I cite this source? The City of Rochester, NY owns two cemeteries, Mount Hope Cemetery and Riverside Cemeteries. The cemetery records for each cemetery, from their opening through 2002 have been scanned and are available online at a site hosted by the Department of Rare Books Special Collections of the River Campus Libraries of the University of Rochester. To comply with the rules, I won't post the link, but you can find it by simply Googling Mount Hope Cemetery Records. To comply with the source of a source rules and the guidelines set out by Elizabeth Shown Mills, how would you properly cite this in Legacy with SourceWriter? I can't really find a good example in Mills' book, nor can I find a good template to use. Could someone put together a citation for me? Many thanks! Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing question
missed it, but I see no reference to the cemetery office on the website? [I never cite something I don't know for certain from the source I'm looking at, unless it's as an explanatory comment]. As mentioned in my previous post on this thread, I would include a description of the images, i.e. that they appear to be a multi-volume index, that the handwriting suggests the index may not have been prepared at the time of the burial, and that it is not clear which volume of the index has been imaged. My citation might look something like this: Mt Hope Riverside Cemetery Records, database and digital images, River Campus Libraries, University of Rochester (http://www.lib.rochester.edu/index.cfm?page=3310 : accessed 5 May 2010), entry for George B. Oswold (1935), p. 525 (stamped) of handwritten index, volume name not provided. The consistency of the handwriting suggests the index was not prepared at the time of the burials. Although I wrote this citation from scratch, I can replicate it with the Internet Database and images template. Connie --- On Tue, 5/25/10, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing question To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 1:19 PM Hey all... thanks for the dialog. Here's what I currently built, using the Cemetery Records template. University of Rochester River Campus Libraries—Department of Rare Books, Special Collections and Preservation, Mt. Hope Riverside Cemetery Records Database and images (http://www.lib.rochester.edu/index.cfm?page=3310 : accessed 5 May 2010), George B. Oswold (interred 10 August 1935); Mount Hope Cemetery Office. Italics are removed, of course, due to the Plain Text formatting. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] A sourcing question -- how many to include?
A search of the archives pulled some threads on this topic, but from a few years back, so I thought revisiting it would be OK. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to record multiple sources that provide a single piece of information. There seem to be three key considerations: 1. Whether each source corroborates or conflicts with the other sources 2. The surety level of the source (e.g. primary v. secondary) 3. Keeping track of your research history (identifying that you've researched a source) There must be a balance between these considerations. For example, let's say your only record of a particular ancestor is the U.S. census, and appeared in all censuses from 1850–1880. Let's also assume that the each census accurately shows his age in intervals of 10 (in other words, the censuses corroborate each other). Because you have no other record of his birthdate, you can calculate the range based on his age. If, in 1850, he was 25, you know he must have been born between 2 Jun 1824 and 1 Jun 1825, given the census date of June 1. As implied above, the 1860, 70, and 80 censuses list his age as 35, 45, and 55, respectively, all calculating to the same birth range. Do you list all four censuses as sources? Now, let's add the 1900 census to our example, which again corroborates the earlier censuses, listing your ancestor at age 75 and providing the month and year of birth, say August 1824. I assume you'd replace the birth range with the month and year provided by the 1900 census, but what do you do with the other censuses as sources? Do you leave them (and if so, how do you indicate that they are only corroborating, as none support August 1824, just the range)? Do you remove them entirely (and if so, how do you note that you have, in fact, researched them)? Let's add another piece of information to our example—a death certificate. Although the census is a fairly reputable source, its likely lower on the surety scale than an official death certificate. Let's say the death certificate again corroborates the censuses, listing your ancestors birthdate as 15 August 1824. Again, you update the field and cite the certificate, but what you do with the censuses as sources? Lastly, let's twist the scenario slightly—let's say the death certificate does NOT provide you ancestor's date of birth, but rather only the date of and age at death. If he died on 5 September 1901 at age 77 years, 0 months, and 21 days, you could alculate the birth date as 15 August 1824. But proper protocal demands that you prefix this date with Cal. to show that the date was calculated. Now what do you do with the censuses as sources? We could continue the example with other records that corroborrate or conflict, such as obituaries, cemetery indexes, tombstones, etc. All have varying levels of surety. You want to know that you reviewed each source, so as not to duplicate your work, but do you want a catalog of every source you've ever looked at? If not, how do you balance keeping track of what you've reviewed, having sufficient sources such that the conclusion can be reasonably supported, and keeping your data file neat and organized and your reports crisp and not burdened with excessive redundancy? Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Re: Changing templates after use
Anyone know if this is possible? On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: Following up to an earlier thread I started, I use one Source Writer template for my master source and created a number of detail citations attached to it throughout my file. After more research and dialog on this list, I realize that a different template would better enable proper citation of my source. Is there a way to convert a Master Source from one template to another, or do I have to re-do every instance? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Facebook as source
Anyone have a citation they can provide for information obtained from Facebook? What Source Template do you use? What does your citation look like? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook as source
Ron: Thanks. One problem I see with that is where do you reference the specific page you were on? The generic internet template only includes source information for the website as a whole. There isn't really anyplace to properly source the page used. I've tried to use the Database template, but I can't seem to permanently clear the Format field, which is not needed. Shouldn't the source look like the below (italics marked by *)? Barack Obama, Barack Obama, *Facebook* (http://www.facebook.com/#!/barackobama : accessed 8 June 2010) Obama, Barack. Barack Obama *Facebook*. http://www.facebook.com/#!/barackobama : 2010 Thanks, Scott On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Scott Hall wrote: Anyone have a citation they can provide for information obtained from Facebook? What Source Template do you use? What does your citation look like? Thanks, Scott Scott, InternetwebsiteGeneric Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook as source
Picked up most of this thead this AM. Glad to see healthy dialogue. A couple of return thoughts. 1. The primary reason I ask about citations is because my intent is to publish my file--likely only to the web, but given that the information will be accessible to others, I'm trying to meet a standard higher than simply recording where I got the information from. 2. RE: Mills and Facebook, she doesn't call out Facebook specifically with a citation, but it is included in the book, in §2.33 Core Elements to Cite (Online Materials): Online sources are publications with the same core elements as print publications. This rule applies ... [when] we are using a social-networking site such as Facebook, MySpace, or LinkedIn. ... If the website offers multiple items by different creators (as with the social networking sites), it is the equivalent of a book with chapters by different authors. That calls for citations of ... additional items. The items mention include citing the title of the personal page and, when necessary, the item's creator. Thus, the challenge with Facebook is that using the generic source makes it appear that, in my example, Barack Obama is the author or creator of the website. He, of course, isn't. He is the author of a page within the website. If we treat this like a book with multiple chapters then we should source both, but I see no Legacy template that does this. Internet E-journals and e-magazines might provide the best solution: First citation: Barack Obama, Barack Obama, *Facebook* (http://www.facebook.com : accessed 9 Jun 2010) Source list: *Facebook*. http://www.facebook.com. You have to ignore some of the fields, but you get the citations above, which aren't too far off from what I think they should be. The Source List doesn't include the page, just the website, which after thought might be better anyway. It certainly means less Master Sources, as there is now only one for all of Facebook (the rest is at the detail level). It also seems to be better in that the bibliography only lists the book (that is, the website), not the chapter (the actual page). Scott On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Connie, I never took what you said as a criticism, and even if I had, I can take it (I was in public life for a few years!). Neither have I any problem with people discussing, or promoting the use of, Mrs Mills and her sourcing systems. In my previous post I said: There is no standard wording in the UK for sourcing, simply it must be clear, accurate, concise and reproducable by others. Below is the output from one of the templates I use (taken from my website - I have removed the html styling): Free BMD, BMD Indexes Database (N.p.: n.p., n.d.), volume 20, page 182, Dec quarter 1840, Barton and Chorlton district; citing the General Register Office's England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. Repository: Free BMD, England, [I insert the URL here] Cit. Date: 10 Feb 2009. Comparing this with what *I* require, it is accurate, reproducable (ie. others can find it), not quite concise and certainly not clear. Unless one is familiar with Evidence explained how would one know what (N.p.: n.p., n.d.), means? I don't need to enter these fields, ever, because it is attached to an Event with these details in it. Please don't post to tell me how to improve it, since that is my intention, but I haven't got round to it as yet, and I don't use this template now. Actually, compared with some of my other sources this one is pretty verbose, usually I have less detail, just the basics. Anyhow that is why I do not get involved in the details of sourcing. To be honest, I probably prefer the old style sourcing but now have too many using Source writer to consider reverting back. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Connie Sheets wrote: Ron, I have no problem whatsoever with your approach; nothing I ever post should be interpreted as a criticism of you or your approach. It's just not for me in all circumstances. One of the things I love about Legacy is its versatility and ability to meet the desires and needs of both lumpers and splitters and those of us who think we are moderate on the issue. Although I'm not an expert by any means, I do try to share what I have learned from Mrs. Mills and other US teachers about source citation practices, for those who may wish to pursue that avenue. Connie Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Connie, I do not recognise the word correct in this context. There is no standard wording in the UK for sourcing, simply it must be clear, accurate, concise and reproducable by others. Which is why, although a
[LegacyUG] Eek! Just joining Ancestry.com - citation nightmare?
I have finally decided to start my subcription to Ancestry.com, but have hit a bit of a barrier out of the gate--my old friend, citations. Ancestry is very good at telling you exactly what the citation should be, but matching that to Evidence Explained--or the Source Writer template--seems a bit tricky at times. I'm working with the Federal census mortality schedules now. It appears that the mortality schedules on Ancestry come from a variety of NARA microfilms, depending on which state the information is coming from. It appears, unlike the Federal censuses for which each year cites a single microfilm reference (e.g. the 1860 census refers to M653), the source of the source here changes depending on the state. But I see no Legacy SourceWriter template. I also note that the Ancestry.com citation doesn't seem to match Mills, or Legacy. Take the 1860 population schedule. Legacy, modeling Mills, says the citation should look like this: 1860 U.S. census, Monroe County, New York population schedule; digital images, *Ancestry.com* (http://www.ancestry.com); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm M653. But Ancestry says: Ancestry.com. *1860 United States Federal Census* [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch. Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d. Citation junkies who use Ancestry, how do you reconcile this in your mind? Just two different systems? And, most importantly, how do you cite nonpopulation schedules given the absence of a template in Legacy? For example, I'm looking at an image of the 1860 Mortality Schedule for Lycoming County, PA. Ancestry lists: Citation #1: Ancestry.com. *U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885* [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. A portion of this collection was indexed by Ancestry World Archives Project contributors. Original data citations: General: United States. *Federal Mortality Census Schedules, 1850-1880 (formerly in the custody of the Daughters of the American Revolution), and Related Indexes, 1850-1880.* T655, 30 rolls. National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C. For PA, it then lists: United States. *Non-Population Census Schedules for Pennsylvania, 1850-1880: Mortality*. M1838, 11 rolls. National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C. The particular record I'm looking at appears to have come from roll M1838, so I suppose that is the citation I should use. I'm not sure when the generic U.S. citation would apply? Perhaps some records are from T655 and others from M1838. I *think* the right citation (Mills style) is: 1860 U.S. census, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania mortality schedule; digital images, *Ancestry.com* (http://www.ancestry.com); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm M1838. What do you think? And, again, most importantly how do you cite this in Legacy? Use the census template and overrride it? Something else? Thanks!! Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Eek! Just joining Ancestry.com - citation nightmare?
Ah, the challenge deepens. Two questions, one exactly on point to the original e-mail, one slightly off point. 1. So as not to forget my original question -- how, in Legacy, do you cite nonpopulation schedules? 2. When Ancestry's original source is NARA, but the images are from FHL, what do you cite -- NARA or FHL? Here's my second Ancestry.com challenge: The WWI draft cards, per Ancestry: Source Citation: Registration Location: Ontario County, New York; Roll 1818611; Draft Board: 2. Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005. Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration. M1509, 4,582 rolls. Imaged from Family History Library microfilm. Uh, wait...if I say citing NARA microfilm M1509, the roll is NOT 1818611. That's the FHL roll number. So, fill in the blank for the Mills' version of this citation: World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917–1918, database and images, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 14 June 2010), card for George William Fricke, serial no. 68, Local Draft Board 2, Ontario County, New York; citing ___ . I was going to follow the census and put NARA microfilm M1509, roll ___, but I'd have to hunt for the NARA roll number. The NARA has a list, but it won't help much, especially if the location stretches across many rolls. For my example it could be either roll NY355 or NY356. What's the general rule for citing middle men anyway? When Ancestry gets their information from FHL, who gets their information from NARA, who do you cite -- FHL or NARA? Continued thanks! Fun stuff! Scott On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Hugh Busey hbu...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Rich, et al, IMHO you may be making more out of this than it warrants. The goal of sources is to get as close to the original event as possible. If Ancestry transcribed the census, you may use them as the source with a with a Surety of 2 - Probable Conclusion at best or perhaps a 1, depending on your confidence level in Ancestry. In my experience, Ancestry transcriptions rate a 1 or aren't even used. I always try to get a photocopy. If Ancestry posted either a scanned or photographically reproduced copy of the original page, and the originator was NARA, you should use NARA as the source. Period. In that case, Ancestry should appear as and only as the repository, not as the source, as they would have you do. Then the paper trail is clean and goes back to the NARA original. Like many others here, I have performed census transcriptions for the Mormons and know first hand how difficult it can be to read and how inaccurate the results can be. They mitigate that by having two independent transcribers work on the same census. In case of different results, a third party then judges what the results should be used. I've been doing this for a pretty long time and do not use Ancestry transcriptions. Final comment: census data was registered by human beings, so spelling may or may not be accurate. Some data, such as birth dates, occupation, parents place of origin, etc. was supplied by someone other than the subject. Use your judgment when assigning surety levels to census content, I may have 1's and 2's in the same census location and year; almost never a 3. I recognize this quality judgment is my own opinion but it's probably about as good as the census taker's. (g) Hugh W, Busey _ On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: I have finally decided to start my subcription to Ancestry.com, but have hit a bit of a barrier out of the gate--my old friend, citations. Ancestry is very good at telling you exactly what the citation should be, but matching that to Evidence Explained--or the Source Writer template--seems a bit tricky at times. I'm working with the Federal census mortality schedules now. It appears that the mortality schedules on Ancestry come from a variety of NARA microfilms, depending on which state the information is coming from. It appears, unlike the Federal censuses for which each year cites a single microfilm reference (e.g. the 1860 census refers to M653), the source of the source here changes depending on the state. But I see no Legacy SourceWriter template. I also note that the Ancestry.com citation doesn't seem to match Mills, or Legacy. Take the 1860 population schedule. Legacy, modeling Mills, says the citation should look like this: 1860 U.S. census, Monroe County, New York population schedule; digital images, *Ancestry.com* (http://www.ancestry.com); citing National Archives and Records Administration microfilm M653. But Ancestry says: Ancestry.com. *1860 United States Federal Census* [database
Re: [LegacyUG] Database sorting
AFAIK, there is no way to sort the Index on anything other than RIN, User ID, First Name, or Surname. In fact, I do not think there is anyplace inside Legacy where you can sort like this. You can do a search for dates within a range, or you could export your name list to .csv format and sort it in a spreadsheet program. I actually do this a lot. It would be a nice enhancement, perhaps left click on the header to sort, right click to change. I have no idea if Millenium is planning on adding this feature, though. Scott On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Peter K Robinson pkrobin...@biology4all.com wrote: Just a simple question - but can't fond the answer. In Legacy Index view is it possible to sort the database on Birthdate? Or is there another way to achieve this. Thanks in advance for help given Peter K Robinson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Search and replace only tagged records
Is there a way to search and replace only tagged records? I want to correct place locations to replace USA with British America for events happening before 1776. I cannot make this change at the location master level, as some records should properly list USA. I can search and pull the list of individuals who, for example, were born or died before this date, but I cannot figure out a way to do a mass replace for only certain identified records. I also cannot figure out a way to search--in one motion-- ALL events occurring before 1776 where the location contains USA. The only way I can do this is to pick three fields at a time, e.g. birth, death, event. Of course, I have to repeat this for individual and marriage. I continue to find Legacy's search functions limiting. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Test e-mails
All: I hate to be a complainer, but the continual flurry of this is a test e-mails that are hitting this board lately are getting a bit annoying. No disparagement meant towards any individual by this, but I'm wondering why we're seeing so many. Two thoughts come to mind, both with a solution. 1. If the problem is that people want simply to ensure they are subscribed and that messages are not zapped by spam filters, the onus is on you to simply wait for legitimate messages to hit or inbox and/or for you to periodically check your spam filters to see if they are there. You can tell whether a message has been posted by going to the list's archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/. In other words, please use legitimate messages for your test purposes, not test messages that serve no other purpose. You could, of course, also use the confirmation e-mail sent by the list server when you subscribe. 2. If the problem is that the mail server has a glitch which causes some or all of the messages to not be delivered to people who are subscribed, then Legacy should investigate and resolve the issue. Certainly, the third alternative is that I should simply shut up and continue to hit delete as I see these messages come through. If the group's consensus is this alternative, then I'll respectfully let the matter drop and say no more. Kindly, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] List by death date
I think the easiest is to download the list into Excel, if you have the program, and sort from there. Under the individual list you can click Print and select save as CSV. You can select any column to be included, including death date. Scott On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Mike Evans michael.evan...@btinternet.comwrote: Hello listers Can anyone advise please how to produce a list of individuals by 'death date'. The purpose being to simplify a search for wills. Have tried so many lists and reporting options but nothing found to date. Many thanks. Mike Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sorting Children
The last program I used, Sierra's Generations (no longer published), put children without birthdates last. I prefer that as well. How they are sorted within themselves I don't much care -- my preference would be to put them in the anticipated order of birth, if known, which would be a manual effort. If they show up alphabetically or some other way it would not matter to me, but again, I concur with the opinion that unknown birthdate children should be at the end. I've been learning a bit about the quirks (if I can call them that) of Legacy versus Generations, such as the inability to do a mass search (search for anything in any field) because Legacy is Access-based. I have no idea how Generations worked, but in some ways I found it easier to use. Legacy, on the other hand, is more customizable and has more features. If I could combine Legacy's robustness with Generation's ease I'd be thrilled! But now I'm off-topic... and besides, Generations hasn't been published in years anyway. So, back on point ... +999 would be preferable to -999. Scott On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:10 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:56:20 -0500, Carl Cox ct...@centurytel.net wrote: When a computer sorts by date, it puts the lowest number first, as that is all it knows how to do. No birth date is zero. Actually, Legacy stores no birth date as - (in tblIR.BirthSD), which is why it sorts first. The programmers could have stored no birth date as + if they had wanted to, which would have sorted last. They had to choose some value. Maybe a programmer will jump in and explain why they chose one over the other, if anyone even remembers. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] List by death date
True that Excel doesn't recognize dates before 1901, but you can convert them using formulas like YEAR, RIGHT, etc. Its a little work, but depending on how well you know Excel, one could easily set up a macro to convert the direct output from Legacy into readable formats. I do this to create a census index and other files I use to track what information I have and need. The GenViewer option sounds even easier, and I'll look into that. If you already have Excel you can accomplish this without additional cost, but paying $30 or whatever GenViewer costs may be the better option. Scott On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Unfortunately, Excel doesn't recognize dates earlier than 1901. There is a freeware add-in called XDate which you can use for that. Also, the other problem is that there are so many ways dates are shown in Legacy - month and year only, year only, date and month only, etc, that the sort doesn't work well either. The best way to sort on dates is using GenViewer, a Mudcreek Software program, which we sell in the online store. You can do all kinds of sorts which you can't do in Legacy, as well as searches, and print the results out. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: I think the easiest is to download the list into Excel, if you have the program, and sort from there. Under the individual list you can click Print and select save as CSV. You can select any column to be included, including death date. Scott On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Mike Evans michael.evan...@btinternet.com wrote: Hello listers Can anyone advise please how to produce a list of individuals by 'death date'. The purpose being to simplify a search for wills. Have tried so many lists and reporting options but nothing found to date. Many thanks. Mike Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] AniMap was: Recommendations, please
RE: The Legacy store, is there any difference if we buy it from the Legacy website or from the publisher's own website? Does Legacy get a portion of the sale price? The prices are the same, so I wasn't sure. Scott On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Dee Ziegler dee.zieg...@gmail.com wrote: I second the applause for AniMap. (Available at LegacyFamilyTree store.) If anyone wants to take a test drive, it's available (free) at most (all?) Family History Centers of the LDS Church. The test drive convinced me that I need it at home. FWIW I probably use AniMap in a different way than computer-whiz people who put their images into their programs. I just print out the maps that go with my family's locations, and use them in notebooks. Maps are so interesting to people who might otherwise have a (strange) lack of interest in their own family's past. Cheers, Dolly in Maryland On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Lana: I have AniMap and find it invaluable in properly identifying US city/county locations where county lines changed frequently. It's also extremely helpful in sorting out the early colonies which also moved their borders from time to time. My version of AniMap is several years old and rather clunky to use, but it certainly saves a lot of time and headaches. Kirsten -Original Message- From: Bain Family [mailto:rlcb...@gotsky.com] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 7:39 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Recommendations, please I am seriously considering the purchase of AniMap and Heritage Collector to compliment my Legacy software. Has anyone already purchased either of these (or something similar) and would make a recommendation pro or con? Has it been one of those things that you just can't live without, wouldn't ever give it up, and think it's just the greatest? Or is there something you found that integrated better with Legacy? Thank you, Lana Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Another Test and Info
Concur. I also get the mails back -- actually, twice. First is my message and the second is blank. Apparently no consistency. Go figure. Scott On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote: I have gmail and I always get my own message back in my inbox when I post to this group; although it is the only time that has ever happened to me. It doesn't happen with other groups though. Wouldn't have normally responded but I've read this comment a few times from others; it doesn't really bother me to get the returned message but thought it was odd. Kathy On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: That would be surprising. Most ISPs have spam blockers otherwise you would be inundated with spam. Please contact supp...@legacyfamilytree.com rather than send messages to the LUG list if you continue to have problems. BTW, gmail does *not* return your message to you when you're sending to a mailing list. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Tom Herson ther...@twcny.rr.com wrote: I have spoken with Time Warner and they tell me that they never block mail from the server. The from the server phrase bothers me but I donj't understand it. TW went through the process of getting me to allow mail from LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com If I don't receive this posting, I have been given and e-mail and a number to call at Time Warner about the issue. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Kathy Meyer To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things you have never before done. --Richard G. Scott, Finding the Way Back, Ensign, May 1990, 74 Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Name vs. AKA Event
I may be missing something, but aren't these are the same thing? There isn't an alternate name option and an AKA option. Alternate name = AKA. Scott On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Jennifer Wilhelmi gene_...@yahoo.com wrote: After reading the thread on entering multiple names for a single individual, I reviewed the help topics for Alternate Name and an AKA event. But, the implications of using one over the other were not clear. Could someone explain in more detail the advantages/disadvantages/implications of using Alternate Name as compared to an AKA event and why you choose one over the other? Or do you use both? Thanks, Jennifer Tucson, AZ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about purchasing from legacy store
A quick potential OT question... I've decided to purchase AniMap and note that the Legacy Family Tree online store has it for $10 less than the Gold Bug website, BUT its version 3.0, whereas AniMap is now on 3.0.2. Does anyone know if I purchase this via Legacy if I'll get the most recent version? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Refresher on Wildcard Searches
Could someone remind me how to do a search for a field that is not blank. I would like to find all individuals who have any data in the cause of death field. The * wildcard doesn't work, as it includes blanks. The ? wildcard doesn't work either. I thought l asked this before (and can't remember the answer), but I cannot find the thread in the archives. Thanks for the refresher. Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Refresher on Wildcard Searches
Thank you. Both methods work. Scott On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 10/08/2010 15:23, Scott Hall wrote: Could someone remind me how to do a search for a field that is not blank. I would like to find all individuals who have any data in the cause of death field. Just use not equal to and leave the what field blank. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate RIN numbers
I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what you are seeing, so these suggestions may or may not be helpful. 1. Have you done File Maintenance to see if that solves the problem? (File File Maintenance Check/Repair) 2. Are you looking at the index with the Include Married Names option on? (Index Options Include Married Names) I'm a little stuck because I don't know where you'd see spouses other than the View Spouses list, which doesn't include RINs. Could you clarify what screen you are in (what is the name in the title bar?) Scott On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Diane Miller sismille...@yahoo.com wrote: If I go to the file on one of my ancestors and click on spouses his wife shows up twice with same RIN number. If I go to spouses under his wife it shows him as her husband twice with the same RIN number. The files appear to be identical except one shows two daughters and the other one. If I type new information on either of them it shows up in each of the duplicate files. I am afraid to try and delete one of them since everything I do to one updates the other one. How do I get rid of one of the duplicate files without losing the data in the other one? Diane Miller Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate RIN numbers
Glad you found a solution. Scott On Aug 11, 2010 5:58 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: Children are connected to a marriage record (even if un-married). If a couple have been re-married, they might have a second marriage record and therefore children could be attached to either of the marriage records. If there is supposed to be only one marriage record, then follow Richard's suggestion. If there is supposed to be two marriages for the same two individuals, then what you see will be two MRIN's connecting the same two RIN's as spouses. I actually have one couple that remarried three times with other spouses between those unions. The database will handle multiple marriages of the same pair. Ron Taylor --- On Wed, 8/11/10, Diane Miller sismille...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Diane Miller sismille...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate RIN numbers To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2010, 1:00 PM Scott, thank you for trying to help me out. In the title bars I have Sampson Trevethan [248... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: RE: [LegacyUG] County Name Changes
I've struggled with this myself and finally have decided to abandon the four comma standard. For me, this means not using the County Verifier. You can still verify the county manually, however. If you can get over not having the verifier, one option is to use something like Jones (now Smith). You could also just put Jones and put Smith in the notes. What is more challenging to me is when town lines changed, which is just a common as county lines. Villages and towns also change their organization (for example from village to city). It seems the only way to get it right is to research the history of each location. Anyway, my suggestion to you is to use the nka standard that you are already using, and verify the county manually. Scott On Sep 9, 2010 5:34 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: How one enters the name of a county, or any other area for that matter, is not laid in stone, and can be entered as one wishes. However, it is convention to use the applicable to the date. I also find this the most useful, especially for census information. So, I use it. We have the situation in England with the 1841 census where a person may be recorded as being born out of county, this I record as not Westmorland so that it stands out. Ron Ferguson -Original Message- From: Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com Sent: 09 September 2010 19:00 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] County Name Changes How do you handle county names that change? The county was Jones and then became Smith. I have some that have three names and one that has had four. In no case are all records under the same county name so I need to indicate the various names. I have been doing Jones nka Smith but that isn't recognized as a legitimate county. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ [The entire original message is not included] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Challenge #2: Changing place names
The hardest thong I struggle with is determining the precise name of the location at the time. But, if you have it, use it. All records should show the place name at the time of the event, regardless of where in the world it is. I like the idea of using the location notes to indicate what the place is called now. Scott On Sep 22, 2010 7:05 PM, Eliz Hanebury elizhg...@gmail.com wrote: Include British parishes in that and you can really go crazy G Eliz On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 22/09/2010 23:21, Maureen Lake wrote: The conundrum I find myself with is this: Does anyone (or everyone) track these changes, or do you go with the standardised, modern place names for most places outside the US? I know that sound US-centric to those of you outside the US, but I only ask because of the county reminder thing-a-ma-bob. This is one which frequently crops up on LUG. Personally, I believe it is correct to record place names as they were at the time of the event and I think most people would agree with me. If you wish, you can use the Location Notes field to record how that placename has changed over the years. Incidentally, it's not a US-centric thing: lots of countries have boundary changes at all levels - town, county, state, country - for all sorts of reasons. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] PLACE NAMES
Ron: Good information in that blog ... thanks for linking to it. A question, though ... why is the addition of UK at the end of the location unacceptable? Couldn't one write, in your example, Southampton, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom in that the city of Southampton is in Hampshire County, in the country of England, which is part of the United Kingdom? I wonder if you're being too rigid that the the thrid comma must be state. In my database, I've opted to use descriptors, for example: Muncy Borough, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, USA as opposed to Muncy, Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, USA. I do this because, in this case there are two Muncys -- Muncy Township and Muncy Borough, so just saying Muncy gives you no clue as to which one I am referring. For places that have an even lower level, such as a village within a town, I sometimes use five commas like Manchester (village), Manchester (town), Ontario County, New York, USA, although I suppose one could simply eliminate the town and stick to the four comma approach. Anyway, for Southampton, my file would show Southamption (city), Hampshire County, England, UK. This doesn't mean that England is a state, which it is not, just that it is a component of the UK. Thoughts? Scott On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Jerry, Please let us be clear, fields that are really designed only for the traditional LOCATION / PLACE divisions. These fields are not traditional. They are based, as I have said previously, on an artificial convention which arranged for a location to comprise 4 fields. Whilst this works in many/most American locations it is not suitable for the UK and most of the rest of the world. In fact for constituent countries of the United Kingdom and Great Britain, as used actually gives a false output. You may wish to look at my blog at http://bit.ly/8VDqTc where I describe how to *accurately* record British locations, instead of getting them wrong by forcing them into the American 4 field convention. BTW. On LUG it has been reported several times that the convention does not work for all American locations either. The location field works perfectly well when containing a full location/address, especially if set to read from right to left. Where one may find a problem is using the Geo-Locator which uses incorrect locations for all of the UK. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Jerry Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 5:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] PLACE NAMES For what it's worth, my opinion is to use the BURIED field only as a location field such as Detroit, Wayne Co, Michigan, USA - then add the name of the cemetery in the NOTES field next to the BURIED location field. Otherwise, you will get LOCATION names that refer to CEMETERIES and not CITIES, VILLAGES, TOWNSHIPS, etc. The LOCATION fields are much more manageable not to mix them up with CEMETERY names.IMO. Plus, if you ever use TNG - The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding for your website data, you will have very messy PLACE names if you use CEMETERIES in fields that are really designed only for the traditional LOCATION / PLACE divisions. Jerry On 9/28/2010 10:41 PM, Jacki Richey wrote: Tim, why do you create a 'burial' event when Legacy has a place for buried right after died? From: spa...@xmission.com Jenny, Would one enter the Cemetery like this ? Forrest Lawn Cemetery, L. Street, Plot 5.4, Cypress, Orange, California, USA I'm like Sherry. I create a 'Burial' event. Tim On 27/09/2010 19:13, Sherry/Support wrote: I enter the cemetery name as an Event. That's easy to search and create reports on. Some users enter the cemetery name and address info using the Address feature for the Burial field. Click on the + at the end of the field to enter the event address. And some of us enter the cemetery name as part of the location. Indeed, I include not only the cemetery name but also the plot/grave number when I know it. What's best is what works for you! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21
Re: [LegacyUG] Periods After Abbreviations ?
The Harry S Truman example! Note that even Harry himself, in his official documents, used a period, even though the S stood for nothing specific. To the original point, has the standard actually changed such that periods are no longer appropriate, or is this just a texting shortcut that should be ignored in Legacy (and elsewhere)? I do notice this on websites such as Ancestry and services like HeritageQuest, neither of which apply a period after a middle inital. I hadn't much thought about it unitl now. Scott On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Dave Naylor dcnay...@bell.net wrote: On 6 Oct 2010 Jerry wrote: Does anyone know why a message from the Legacy program states that all initials should be followed by a period?I am now accustomed to not using periods in abbreviations because it is the new computerized way of doing things. Does anyone really see a problem with any of that? Yes! In early Pennsylvania and New Jersey (and no doubt other provinces/states) some families used a single letter as a middle name in order to identify their children. So all children of the same parents had the same middle initial in their name. In Legacy, I identify these from actual initials (where the middle name is unknown) by *not* having a full-stop/period after them. Where the letter is an initial for an unknown name it *is* followed by a full-stop/period. Obviously if I know the middle name it is written in full. Cheers! -- Dave N. -- David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada. --- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] OT: Trimming the Family Tree
Thanks for the heads up on the other message board. I was trying to find the right forum to ask the question, knowing that this was OT to this list. Thanks, too, for those who responded. Scott On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, At what point do you stop recording relationships? This sort of philosophical question should probably be asked on a list like ROOTS (http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/ROOTS.html). Ulitmately, it is a matter of personal choice how far you take your research and records. Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Marriage list - search
Hey all ... I'm trying to do a search for data contained within Marriage Notes so that I can make some updates. Seems easy enough. I go to Search - Look for Marriage - Look in Marriage Notes - Contains - the text I'm seeking. But when I create the search list, it gives me a list of INDIVIDUALS, not marriages, which doesn't allow me to edit the marriage notes. Doesn't it make more sense that if I do a search on marriages, a MARRIAGE list should come up? Perhaps an enhancement request is needed, or am I missing something? Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] REMINDER!
I've looked through Gmail's help to try and see how I could universally set up messages to a particular address to always be plain text, but cannot find anything. Can someone who knows how e-mail me off list? The hassle is that my default is Rich Text (which I want it to be), and all e-mails I send are Rich Text, except the ones to this board. If I forget (which is easy to do) to click the Plain Text button in a reply, voila! HTML mail to the board. If I can automate this, that would solve the issue -- but again, I cannot seem to figure out how. Thanks, Scott On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net wrote: OK, I can’t stay silent any longer. This HTML thing causes untold controversy on this group, far more than it should. Let’s move into the 21st century and allow HTML. Sherry, the fact that your message came through in HTML (you said blame GMAIL) illustrates how hard it is for some people to configure e-mail. I have Outlook 2007, and I have configured it to send to this group in plain text. However, it and many other e-mail programs send replies in the same format as the original post, regardless of settings. Let’s take the reasons given for no HTML one by one. HTML format messages require more server space for archiving than plain text messages. The server actually seems to store the messages in plain text anyway, it certainly looks like it when viewing the archives. Anyway, as long as the message doesn’t contain pictures and other fancy stuff (ban just the fancy stuff), is a post of 100-200 words really that much bigger in HTML? HTML messages can hide viruses. That what anti-virus programs are for. Everybody reading this newsgroup probably is surfing webpages and those are in HTML. If you will surf to a MTML webpage, why is an HTML e-mail message any different? HTML messages will increase a message's Spam rating by Spam blocking software. Maybe, but virtually all of my incoming e-mail is HTML and I don’t have any problems It takes longer for persons with dial-up connections to download HTML messages. True, but how many people does this affect? And, I go back to how much bigger is a text only HTML message? I realize HTML messages contain ‘two versions’ of the message, but these messages (even with an HTML and plain test component) are not huge. Some older e-mail readers display HTML messages by including hypertext code, which makes them hard to read. Again, how many people does this affect? Some people with visual impairment may have difficulty reading messages with colored text or tinted backgrounds. OK, just ban the fancy stuff. Paul Gray From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: October-26-10 9:35 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] REMINDER! We have been receiving complaints about HTML emails being sent to the LUG list. Please make sure that your emails are sent in plain text. At the bottom of every email sent to the group is a link to the Legacy Usesr Group Guidelines. Please click on that link and review the guidelines again. If you're not sure how to set your email program or webmail to plain text, there's a link in the guidelines to a website that has that information. Also, We ask that there be no attachments - make sure your AV program isn't sending out a certification attachment and please don't send read receipts to the group. Thanks for your cooperation! Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1152 / Virus Database: 424/3220 - Release Date: 10/26/10 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
Re: [LegacyUG] HTML thing
*OFF LIST * Jane: I have same trouble. You can send plain text by clicking the Plain Text hyperlink on the toolbar, just above the message box. But you have to do it for every message. I cannot figure out a way to have Gmail automatically send Plain Text to a specific sender -- it seems to be either one or the other is universally applied and you have to change it message by message. Frustrating. Scott On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.comwrote: I may be one of the offenders. I use gmail, and I checked the settings but could not see where I could possibly selected plain text instead of HTML. I would be happy to cooperate, but, since I don't know how, I suppose the best thing is for me to not send messages to the list. I am OK at genealogy, but not very conversant with email technicalities. Not a happy LEGACY camper Jane Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Search help again
I am trying to search for all individuals where the marriage date or marriage place is not blank but is not private. I can't figure it out. I thought the search would be: Marriage where event date is not equal to blank OR Marriage where event place is not equal to blank AND Marriage where Event-Marked Private is equal to Not Private But this doesn't produce the right list. So how? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy on Mac
It can be done. The challenge is I'm not sure how. I also run Legacy on Windows (XP) via VMWare Fusion. My files are all on the Mac side -- even the data file. I have a network drive that I can see on the Windows side called Shared Folders that takes me to the Mac side. I note that when I click on most of the folders, no programs appear -- this is the Windows can't see Mac issue mentioned above. But I can access the Legacy files. Even though I can't help you figure out how, I assure you it is possible. I'd suggest looking at the manuals or help files for VMware Fusion, or perhaps someone else here can better assist. Good luck. Scott On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Robert Runion sarge1...@cox.net wrote: I run Legacy on my iMAC using VMware Fusion and Windows 7. As noted earlier, all my stuff is in the Windows side of the system; however, there is a feature in Fusion that you might explore - Unity. It is some sort of feature that allows crossfeed, but I have no idea how it works. You might try talkign to the VMware techies. I had it working one day, but it got in the way of doing genealogy and I haven't revisited it. Bob On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Ron Taylor wrote: I am using Legacy 7.4.0.45 right now on my macbook with Parallels version 6 and thousands of multimedia files attached. Works well. Mac OS 10.4.6 can see the pictures files as well. May not be possible with other VM products but Parallels does work both ways. Ron Taylor --- On Fri, 10/29/10, David Hook daveh...@rogers.com wrote: From: David Hook daveh...@rogers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Legacy on Mac To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Friday, October 29, 2010, 8:28 PM Vickie: I don't believe that you can do this. It's a Windows issue, I've been told. Mac operating systems can read windows-formatted drives, but Windows operating systems aren't able to recognize Mac-formatted drives. So if you are using parallels, or boot camp (or whatever) when you are using the Mac OS, you can see both sides of the partition, but when using the Windows OS you can only see the Windows side. So, if you are running Legacy, you need to be using the Windows OS, so the best solution is to keep all of your genealogy files on the Windows side of the partition so that you can access them from other side. Hope that helps, Dave On 2010-10-29, at 9:57 PM, Vickie Prows wrote: Finally got Legacy to work on my new Mac inside Windows 7 with VMFusion, but don't know how to connect with my Multimedia which resides on the Mac side of the computer. Any hints? I'd love to see a User Group for Mac people. We have our own set of problems.. Vickie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
Re: [LegacyUG] Editing multiple individuals
Hi Wendy. Thanks. I don't need to make changes to the information, I need to add the information to the indivudals. The cemtery is in the address master -- correctly. I have about 30 individuals who are buried there, but do not have the event (cemetery) address linked to any of them. I would like to link the address to all of them in one fell swoop, rather than one by one. Hope that clarifies. Thanks, Scott On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, I have 30 or so individuals who are all buried in the same cemetery. Is there a way to mass edit the burial address for all 30 at once? Yes, there is. :-) If you have the cemetery in the Location field, go to the Master Location List - you can access this via the icon at the top of the screen (if you have it there*), or View Master Lists Location. Find the location you want to alter, click on the Edit button and make your changes. If you have the cemetery in the address field you can access it the same way as the second method above - View Master Lists Address Lists Event. Select the one you want to alter, click on the Edit button, and make your changes. There are also Mailing List and Repository address lists here that you can also edit if needed. * the icons at the top of the window are customisable. Right-click anywhere in that line of icons (on an icon or in empty space) and the Customise Main Toolbar window will appear. Drag and drop icons as you please to select the ones you want and put them in the order you want them. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Questionable Locations
I track all of that information in the Research notes. If a place is uncertain, I usually will not include it in the Location field, or will include the higher level jurisdiction (e.g. a source says Philadelphia?, PA -- I would put Pennsylvania in the field, and record that the source said possibly Philadelphia in the research notes. Scott On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Jerry bearjerca...@gmail.com wrote: For locations that are guesses, based on other known facts, do others use a ? at the end of the location and how does that affect mapping, etc.? --Thanks, Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Printing Burial Addresses
I would like to print a report with burial addresses for anyone in my file who has one. I can't figure out how to do it. I did a search for anyone who has a location in the Burial field, but if I try to print, there seems to be no field option for burial address. Thanks Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Printing Burial Addresses
That's a good suggestion Sherry. I'd like to say that it would be better if we could select the address fields within the + areas to include on List Reports, rather than having to use this workaround, but in the meantime, its a good option. Scott On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Jerry, In the location field on the Individual's Information window, I enter the juridictional locations - South Bend, St. Joseph, Indiana. Then I use a Cemetery event for the Burial data: Description Riverview Cemetery Date (I leave this blank) Location South Bend, St. Joseph, Indiana Notes (I enter the address, plot info and anything else about the cemetery) I can then create a detailed Event report of all cemeteries I have asked the programmers for an option to save the report to CSV so it can be opened in a spreadsheet program and sorted by cemetery. Or options to sort by specific fields. You can also do a search using the Detailed Search tab for Event with Description Contains name of cemetery to bring up a list of all individuals buried in that cemetery. Then you can Print that list with up to 30 fields of data. I include the Event: Cemetery in the Index Report. Or if you do a search of all people with Cemetery Event, then you can save the Index Report to CSV and sort it. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jerry bearjerca...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sherry. Do you mean that you put the burial location place (ex: city) in the buried location field - then you don't use the extra address (+ field) for the cemetery at all, but instead enter that information as a cemetery event? Just trying still to figure our what will work best for us, not only with Legacy, but also in how it transfers to our website. Thanks, --Jerry Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com
Many public libraries have access to the library edition of Ancestry, as well as other genealogy databases such as those published by ProQuest. I've particularly found HeritageQuest to be of great value as I can access it with my library card from home for free. My local library also provides access to American Ancestors (formerly New England Ancestors). On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Cathy-0 chorn0...@optimum.net wrote: Tim, The FHC where I volunteer used to have access to Ancestry.com but, as I understand it, the LDS Family History Library gave it up several years ago. I never noticed any different between their former subscription and my personal subscription to Ancestry. Since the LDS FHC gave up Ancestry.com altogether, I have made my own subscription to Ancestry.com available to patrons when I am there. Cathy-0 - Original Message - From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com Don't they also have a crippled version of Ancestry.com, just for FHC ? Tim Rosenlof On 1/5/2011 9:29 AM, Cathy-0 wrote: I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area. They have the following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the computers at the FHC. -- WorldVitalRecords.com -- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest) -- Footnote.com -- Godfrey Memorial Library -- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives -- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK) -- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online) -- Historic Map Works Library Edition -- Alexander Street Press-- The American Civil War You can locate an LDS FHC in your area by going to their web site and clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on the right hand side of the page. https://www.familysearch.org/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] 7.5
Is there / when will there be a list of changes 7.5 offers? I'd like to review it before updating. I know the Family Search thing is the big one, but as a non-LDS member, its the bug fix. list that I'm more interested in. Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] 7.5
Thanks Sherry... It says only Over 50 Items Fixed The update blog says This update adds additional New FamilySearch support (for those with a new.familysearch.org LDS account) and includes several minor bug fixes that you have reported. We'll write a lot more about this update soon I was wondering when that will occur... no big deal. I can just wait a few days and keep checking the website. Scott On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: As always - on the Legacy Home tab, click the label for the Updates section to bring up the Check for Update window. See the link there See What's New? Click on that to be taken to the Legacy website showing revision history. Or on the website, go to Download Download Update for a link to the Revision History page. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: Is there / when will there be a list of changes 7.5 offers? I'd like to review it before updating. I know the Family Search thing is the big one, but as a non-LDS member, its the bug fix. list that I'm more interested in. Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RE: township and cemeteries
Others have answered similar to me, but I'll through my 2 cents in anyway. I follow the principle that locations should be recorded with their official names at the time of the event. So, for locations pre-1776, I use British North America instead of USA. You could get more precise and use the actual colony names, such as Connecticut Colony, or Province of Massachusetts Bay, or shorten it just to Connecticut and Massachusetts. If your ancestors lived in colonies that did not exist in 1776, I'd suggest you identify and use the actual titles, for example Saybrook Colony (folded into Connecticut Colony in 1644).AFAIK, the American colonies were formally known as British America until the 1760s, and then British North America until independence was won. Scott On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Kevin Schmitt schmittke...@hotmail.com wrote: How do you use the location for pre-USA time such as 13 colonies and Massachutes Bay Colony, since my trees go that far back thanks Kevin Schmitt schmittke...@hotmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] RE: township and cemeteries
No other source than Wikipedia. Accuracy not guaranteed! See the article for British North America. On Jan 21, 2011 7:36 PM, atlant...@aol.com wrote: Scott; I understood that British America existed until American independence and that after that the remaining empire was known as British North America. Where do you get the 1760s (presumably the Treaty of Paris (1763)) was the change in terminology? -Original Message- From: Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Fri, Jan 21, 2011 5:15 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RE: township and cemeteries Others have answered similar to me, but I'll through my 2 cents in anyway. I follow the principle that locations should be recorded with their fficial names at the time of the event. So, for locations pre-1776, use British North America instead of USA. You could get more recise and use the actual colony names, such as Connecticut Colony, r Province of Massachusetts Bay, or shorten it just to Connecticut and Massachusetts. If your ancestors lived in olonies that did not exist in 1776, I'd suggest you identify and use he actual titles, for example Saybrook Colony (folded into onnecticut Colony in 1644). AFAIK, the American colonies were ormally known as British America until the 1760s, and then British orth America until independence was won. Scott On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Kevin Schmitt schmittke...@hotmail.com wrote: How do you use the location for pre-USA time such as 13 colonies and assachutes Bay Colony, since my trees go that far back thanks Kevin Schmitt schmittke...@hotmail.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to manage Research / TODOs / Sources ?
James: I can't directly answer your questions, because I haven't yet used To Dos in my file (although I plan to). I wanted to reply to share what I do, as an alternative, in regards to your second question of ow to tell if I've looked at a source before, what I looked for, and what I found. Being an accountant and auditor, I've grown up with spreadsheets, and make extensive use of Excel in my genealogy research. My method is more effort than many people have, but I find it helps my organization, especially in regards to your second point. Essentially, I transcribe the information I find from most sources into a spreadsheet, and enter the data into my Legacy file from that spreadsheet. For example, I have a file for census information. Within the workbook are multiple tabs, one for each census from which I have information. Columns record all of the information from the census, plus identifying information (e.g. RINs), and other information I wish to add (for example, I record the date I pulled the record, what source, maiden names and MRINs when applicable, and notes). I have similar files for information obtained from cemeteries (be it online sites, cemetery records, or actual visits), BMD information (indexes like the SSDI) and city directories. So far the only records I have not transcribed are data found in other people's family tree files, newspapers and obituaries, and BMD certificates. While this is a double-entry method (and thus, as stated requires more time to maintain), I find the files are invaluable to determine, at a quick glance, what information I have from whom and from where. As a further example, I have a census index tab with some formulas that show me at a quick glance for each member of my genealogy file which census I have found them and which remain to be researched. Scott On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:53 AM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if there's a more efficient way to manage a research project with Legacy. Both Legacy and the LUG have pitched the TODOs for this purpose, and I've been trying to make use of those. There's two things I'm sort of struggling with: - How best to enter the information both before and after a trip to the library - When planning how to tell if I've looked at a source before, what I looked for, and what I found. Here's a typical example of what I've been doing if that's of any help. In my easy chair, I bring up PERSI and check off the periodicals that look like they might be helpful sources. I believe PERSI calls my selected sources a 'notebook' which I can download as a text file. So, having very quickly generated a list of periodicals to search in, I bring up my local research centers catalog and see what they have available. I'll update my text file with the call numbers and what not - also very fast and easy. Now how should I integrate this information with my TODO items? I tried making sources for each item I found, and attaching those to my TODO item. This makes for a nice TODO report, but I can get a list of 25 or 30 items to search in maybe 30 minutes with the process above, but then spend a couple of hours turning them into sources in Legacy. It may be because I use Source Writer exclusively, and thinking I may as well enter these in source writer too. If I actually find something, they'll already be in my preferred format. It just takes way too long, and I'm not at all sure I'm getting value out of the time spent. I've been thinking I could just copy and paste my text file into my TODO, the reports wouldn't be as nice, but would be faster. Other suggestions? Once I've finished the research trip, I update my TODO's results area using an MLA style reference to my linked sources. This part is pretty fast, I have no real issues with it, just wondering again if ther is a better way. If I were to go with a copy and paste idea like I mentiond above, I wouldn't need MLA anymore, as I'd have a block of info. per source reference. Then the last thing is, once I've entered this information (however it is done), how can I efficiently make use of if? I find I keep switching between existing TODOs so that I can read the notes and look at the attached sources. This is also very tedious. TIA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server -
Re: [LegacyUG] How to manage Research / TODOs / Sources ?
James: If you want, I'd be happy to send you my files for your perusal. Let me know. On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:01 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: BTW I also publish these spread sheets on my website (I use OpenOffice.org). I tried clicking around and the a search for spreadsheet, xls and sdc (calc's file extension I think). No results. Where might I find an one of these? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to manage Research / TODOs / Sources ?
On their way off list. These are Excel 2007 workbooks (.xlsx extension), and will not open with older versions of Excel. If you don't have Excel 2007 or newer, let me know and I can convert them. Scott On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:15 PM, James Cook jc1...@gmail.com wrote: Sure. I'll look them over. Thanks On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: James: If you want, I'd be happy to send you my files for your perusal. Let me know. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to search for unlinked persons?
Search Miscellaneous Unlinked Individuals Scott On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com wrote: I have a lot of people in my data that is not linked to anyone and I would like to know if there is a way to run a search for them. Lloyd 1 Simple Form: Up to 4 Offers! Refi to low APR before rates rise. $200,000 for $857/mo. No SSN required. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d45a85b9cfc8e8bb0bst04vuc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Include this citation on reports
I noticed, for some reason, some of my detail citations are not appearing on reports ... and the culprit is that the Include this Citation on Reports checkbox was unchecked. I don't know how or why they became unchecked, but no matter. Is there a way to have Legacy mass check every citation? Or if not, is there a way to search to identify all citations where the checkbox is unchecked? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Include this citation on reports
Perfect. Thank you. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:55 PM, s megraw smeg...@hotmail.com wrote: Options Customize Sources. Select Include master source text on reports Stan From: seh0...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Include this citation on reports Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 16:39:35 -0500 I noticed, for some reason, some of my detail citations are not appearing on reports ... and the culprit is that the Include this Citation on Reports checkbox was unchecked. I don't know how or why they became unchecked, but no matter. Is there a way to have Legacy mass check every citation? Or if not, is there a way to search to identify all citations where the checkbox is unchecked? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse
There are a few ways. One, if you have a mother with no father attached, and simply create a child, no RIN will be assigned to the unknown father. An MRIN will be, which is unavoidable. Two, if you create a unlinked child and then link it to a mother only, the child will attach to the mother only. Again, if the mother has no existing husband, none wil be created and thus no RIN, but as above, an MRIN will be (mother + unknown). Scott On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother without having an unknown father with a RIN? Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Unknown spouse
After I hit send, I thought of something else you might want to know. Because the children were from different fathers, you may wish to show them as half siblings. To do this you'll have to temporarily create fathers, then delete them. Create father #1 (call him anything) and create child #1. Create father #2 (same deal) and create child #2. Delete each of the fathers. You'll note that the mother will still list two spouses (both unknown) and have two MRINs, but no RINs will be assigned to the non-existant fathers. Depending on which MRIN you show, the other children will appear as ½ siblings. Scott On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jennifer Crockett jcrock...@optusnet.com.au wrote: I can't remember how to remove an unknown spouse and just leave it blank. I have a woman who had three children to three different men and two of the men's names are known but not the third. How do I link a child to the mother without having an unknown father with a RIN? Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Norfolk County Massachusetts
You can just ignore it, can't you? When the verifier comes up, click OK and move on. A little annoying that you'll get the pop-up every time you enter Norfolk County, but it doesn't stop you from entering the county in your file. Tell me if I'm misunderstanding your concern. BTW, you should submit a customer service ticket so Legacy can add this to their to be fixed list. Regards, Scott On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Dudley Chase dandg...@gmail.com wrote: The USA County Verifier has two listings For Norfolk County, Massachusetts: 1793- Present and 1643 - 1680. but when I try to use it as a location with a date of 1661 the error message comes up that Norfolk County did not exist in the state of Massachusetts until 1793. The options appear to be leave the county blank or turn off County Verifier for all entries which I rather not do Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy capacity
First, WOW! This page (http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Features.asp) on Legacy's home site says: General Capacities * Individuals and Families File size to 1 billion characters (1 gigabyte) As you have 2 GB already, I can assume that means you don't have 1 billion characters yet -- but it appears that is the limitation. Scott On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Sharon Johnson grandmasharon2...@hotmail.com wrote: I have roughly 112,000 names in my Legacy database. I download pictures, census images, death certificates, etc. I am backing up 2,285,688 KB of memory on my backup disk. How do I find out what the maximum capacity for Legacy memory use is? I don't want to get to a point where I start losing information I am adding. Sharon L Johnson grandmasharon2...@hotmail.com Blogs: grandmasharonlee.blogspot.com grandmasharon2000.blogspot.com http://www.BinocularDeals.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy family tree - access
Given that the OP said she wasn't a computer expert makes me wonder why she'd want to do this also, but if the reason is solely to perform queries or create custom reports beyond the interface's capability, then it would be best to open the file and then make a copy from which to work. Certainly there are people who can manipulate the data directly (think Dennis Kowallek and his LTools), but they're pretty knowledgable. Scott On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On 11/03/2011 02:22, Forrest wrote: /I have been told that you can view the data in Microsoft access database/ // /I have the latest version of office and Legacy de luxe/ // /Would someone please help me with the steps required – please note that I am not a computer expert – so need simple basic plain language steps/ If you need to ask how to open Legacy in Access I'm afraid I rather doubt you'll be able to do anything useful when you've done so! The most important thing to do first is BACK UP YOUR LEGACY DATABASE. Then you just open your Legacy database as you would any other database file, except you need EITHER to rename it from .fdb to .mdb OR select All files (*.*) as the file type before selecting your database in Access. Don't change anything unless you really know what you're doing and if you do change something and it all goes pear-shaped ... well, you did backup, didn't you? -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy's Association with World Vital Records
About a month ago, I also got a solicitation call from GenealogyBank -- on my cell phone. I don't recall giving that info. to Legacy either. My guess is Millennia gave or sold its user list -- perhaps just with name and e-mail -- to Genealogy Bank, who used public records searches to obtain the other information. Such methods are not uncommon. A company doesn't need to be provided your phone number to figure it out in today's less-than-private technology world. Scott On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:22 EDT, salude...@aol.com wrote: I also got 2 calls a few weeks ago from these people Anybody got the phone number or city they are calling from? We have caller id and we religiously let calls go to the answering machine if we do not recognize the caller. Sometimes we let it go to the answering machine WHEN WE DO KNOW THE CALLER. ;-) But I am now wondering if some of the persistent calls are from these companies. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] New Mac
iMac user here ... the rest of the responses are spot on. Legacy only runs on Windows, but you can run Windows on a Mac. I use Fusion, which allows Windows to run virtually, meaning I can switch back and forth between the Windows and Mac OS sides easily. Also, as stated, though, you don't need to buy a virtualization application, as Mac OS comes with Boot Camp, which will allow you to run boot your Mac with Windows, acting as a PC. If you are not confident about your ability to install this software, you can take it to an Apple store. As a reformed PC user, I think you'll enjoy the Mac generally, as it suffers from few of the challenges Windows does. Keep in mind, though, that if you install Windows on the Mac while you are running that operating system, you are suspectible to any Windows issue--including viruses and the like--and thus should have adequate protection installed. Know, however, that any virus, trojan, etc. you might contract on the Windows side will *not* effect the Mac OS side. As for Bob's print issue below, I'd say that is either local to his computer, as my iMac is about the same age and I have no issues printing from either side and have not needed to intervene. Bob--have you tried calling Apple support to help with this issue? I'm confident it shouldn't exist. Best, Scott On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Robert Runion sarge1...@cox.net wrote: Been running Legacy on my iMAC for about 3 years now and it can be done as previously indicated via Parallels, Fusion or Bootcamp (comes on the iMAC) - you do need to load Windows no matter which one you use. Using Bootcamp operates your MAC as though it were a regular PC. The only drawback on the Bootcamp is that you have to restart in either the MAC side or the Windows side. Parallels and Fusion will let you run either - the only drawback I had with both these is that the MAC needs you to intervene with the Printing feature depending on which system you are printing from, and even that tends not to work at times. All the gurus in India were unable to resolve this issue for me. Bootcamp presents fewer problems that I have encountered. Bob On May 16, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Noddie wrote: You would need to run something like Parallels which is what I do myself. Once setup it is quite easy to use, and Legacy can be run from there. You can also drag an drop files from Parallels to Os if it is setup to do so. Cheers Gwen On 17/05/2011, at 10:06 AM, David C Abernathy wrote: I think you must install Windows on your Mac and then you can use Legacy. There is a program on your Mac or you can add one that allows you to run Windows on it. You must buy a copy of windows to install it on your machine. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com http://www.schmeckabernathy.com/ == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == -Original Message- From: cehw...@netzero.net [mailto:cehw...@netzero.net] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] New Mac I purchased an iMac computer. I have friends who use Legacy all the time and say it is the best. I am not computer savvy but am willing to learn. How do get Legacy on my computer. Please be specific with all procedures and which software versions I need. Get Free Email with Video Mail Video Chat! http://www.netzero.net/freeemail?refcd=NZTAGOUT1FREM0210 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support:
Re: [LegacyUG] RINs
Fill all missing RINs will take all higher number RINS and reassign them to lower numbers. So, if your first RIN is 104524521, it will renumber it 1. Scott On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Charlotte Box charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote: The options are: Renumber current RIN.. Fill missing RINs.. Fill all missing RINs.. None are missing but I want to reduce their size from 10 digits, is it not possible to renumber them from 1-1500 then? Thanks. On 24 May 2011 17:17, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: In the Deluxe Edition, go to Tools Renumber RINs and select Fill all missing RINs. Do the same for MRINs. In the Standard Edition, you need to export to a new Family File - File Export to... Legacy file. In the Legacy Export window, under the section Record Numbering, select to Fill all existing abandoned RINs/MRINs, Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Charlotte Box charlotte.e@googlemail.com wrote: Hello everyone I'm new to Legacy and I'm trying to understand RINs. Most of mine are 10 digits long so I would like to shorten them; as the tree I'm working on has only around 1500 people so is it possible to renumber them from 1-1500 and if so how do I implement this using the renumbering facility in Legacy? Thanks! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using color
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot color code a single individual. If I'm wrong, others will correct me and I'll learn something too. The Surety field is generally used for this kind of stuff, but that's connected to sources (Source Detail). You could, however, use sources to document this. I'm assuming you found that person X is the child of parents Y and Z from some source. That source perhaps provided the name. In the source detail for name, you can select a lower surety level, and add any notes (Text/Comments) you wish. If you don't wish to use the name field, you can also attach Sources to the person, generally (Unspecified) Another alternative, if you wish to see it on the Family View, is to create either a Child Status or Relationship to your liking and record it for each suspect child. The Child Status will show on the Family View. Keep in mind you can only select one Status or Relationship -- so if the child is both a twin and stillborn, sorry, pick one from the Status (a potential Legacy suggestion?!) Scott On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.comwrote: As I have mentioned on this list before, I am often conflicted when I have someone who is most probably the parent of X, but I lack satisfactory documentation. I should like to include the possible parent of X in my data base (in the parent slot), but I would like something to indicate that it is 95% likely, not 100%. Sois there a way to color a person in the data (just that one person in that line; perhaps another similar case in another line) a particular color - say purple? I know one can color one's direct line a different color. Is it possible to just color the name of one person in the data base? Jane Sarles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using color
From my suggestions, perhaps the Child Status is the easiest way to go. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.comwrote: Sigh.I'm trying for something very simple that shows, at a glance of the family view or a report, the uncertain status of the individual. Jane On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.comwrote: As I have mentioned on this list before, I am often conflicted when I have someone who is most probably the parent of X, but I lack satisfactory documentation. I should like to include the possible parent of X in my data base (in the parent slot), but I would like something to indicate that it is 95% likely, not 100%. Sois there a way to color a person in the data (just that one person in that line; perhaps another similar case in another line) a particular color - say purple? I know one can color one's direct line a different color. Is it possible to just color the name of one person in the data base? Jane Sarles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Colonial Place Names
A little OT, but can anyone here point me to a message board or other place to ask questions about how to record colonial U.S. place names? Prior to the common date of 4 Jul 1776, I use colony name, British America as in Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, British America. But two states in particular pose challenges -- Maine and Vermont. As you likely know, neither existed in 1776 -- the Province of Maine was part of Massachusetts and what is now Vermont was part of New Hampshire and New York So, for example, I'm a little stuck on how to record the birthplace of an ancestor born in Vermont in 1782. In 1776, Vermont separated from Britian as part of New York and New Hampshire, and in 1777, declared independence from those colonies. While an American territory, it was an independent republic until 1791 when it joined the U.S. as a state. So -- how to record? Perhaps because it was an American territory, Vermont, USA still applies? Or should it just be Vermont (or Vermont Republic) without the USA? etc. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Connection to Family Tree?
I don't think I saw this announced or discussed anywhere ... is there a timeline to update Legacy Family Search to the new Family Tree? As I think most know, New Family Search is being taken off line, and already combine and separate functions have been disabled. Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about importing GEDCOMs
I've begun the process of importing some GEDCOM files to reduce the effort of loading people in my file. I have one small issue I cannot figure out. I record surnames in Title Case (that is, only the first letter capitalized), however when importing these GEDCOMs, the surnames come over in all upper case and I cannot figure out how to request Legacy to adjust this. Thanks! Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about importing GEDCOMs
OK, I'm perplexed. Here are my options: 3.1 3.2 3.3all Initial Caps Format names and places checked. Import surnames all in UPPERCASE (not displayed .. in the database in Uppercase ... they shouldn't be!) ? On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote: Scott, Check the help file, search for import gedcom and look at the section titled Format Names and Places. It will direct you to Customize which really means OptionsCustomizeData Format and then 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 and you'll probably also want 3.6 and 3.7. Look at 3.4 for options for displaying the names without changing them in the database. Ron Taylor On Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:14 PM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: I've begun the process of importing some GEDCOM files to reduce the effort of loading people in my file. I have one small issue I cannot figure out. I record surnames in Title Case (that is, only the first letter capitalized), however when importing these GEDCOMs, the surnames come over in all upper case and I cannot figure out how to request Legacy to adjust this. Thanks! Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Replace surname for a family
I'm stuck on how to do a mass replace for a family name at one point a son changed the spelling of his surname from that of his parents. I've isolated all of his descendants with tagging, but can't figure out how to replace the surname for all of the tagged records at once ... there are 421 people with this condition, so i don't want to do it one-by-one. Can someone tell me? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Replace surname for a family
Yea, thanks. I don't want to globally change the surnames, I want to change it for a select group of people. The name is valid for plenty of other folks. Clearly no option in Legacy itself, I haven't had a chance to see if an existing LTools does it yet. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:06 PM, anair...@insightbb.com wrote: This might help: Go to the son's Individual's screen see the down arrow beside the surname this brings up a list of all surnames in your Legacy program here you can globally change any surname(s) and/or merge surnames. By holding down the shift key you can merge many surnames into one. Anne I'm stuck on how to do a mass replace for a family name at one point a son changed the spelling of his surname from that of his parents. I've isolated all of his descendants with tagging, but can't figure out how to replace the surname for all of the tagged records at once ... there are 421 people with this condition, so i don't want to do it one-by-one. Can someone tell me? Thanks, Scott Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Using Dragon with Legacy
I'm looking forward to the webinar on this very subject, but as it is not until December, I was hoping someone might be willing to converse with me about how they've successfully used Dragon to input data into Legacy. Thanks! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using Dragon with Legacy
I'm assuming no response means no one on this group is using Dragon? sigh Hate to wait until December. Sherry/Brian et al. ... any other resources I can tap into on this topic? On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking forward to the webinar on this very subject, but as it is not until December, I was hoping someone might be willing to converse with me about how they've successfully used Dragon to input data into Legacy. Thanks! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
