On Screen Graphics Previews in LyX 2.0 for non eps files

[Geoffrey Ghose]

Are eps files the only ones which can viewed as a preview on the screen?

My debugging output from the Mac version displays this for gif and pdf files:

lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'filename'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'display'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'scale'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: '\end_inset'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: gif
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: gif
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/filetools.cpp(990): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/filetools.cpp(990): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
yx-2.0.1/src/insets/InsetGraphicsParams.cpp(266): BB_from_File: 



But the generated PDF looks fine.

On Screen Graphics Previews in LyX 2.0 for non eps files

[Geoffrey Ghose]

Are eps files the only ones which can viewed as a preview on the screen?

My debugging output from the Mac version displays this for gif and pdf files:

lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'filename'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'display'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'scale'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: '\end_inset'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: gif
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: gif
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/filetools.cpp(990): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/filetools.cpp(990): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
yx-2.0.1/src/insets/InsetGraphicsParams.cpp(266): BB_from_File: 



But the generated PDF looks fine.

On Screen Graphics Previews in LyX 2.0 for non eps files

[Geoffrey Ghose]

Are eps files the only ones which can viewed as a preview on the screen?

My debugging output from the Mac version displays this for gif and pdf files:

lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'filename'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'display'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: 'scale'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/InsetGraphics.cpp(145): Token: '\end_inset'
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: gif
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: gif
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/filetools.cpp(990): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/frontends/qt4/GuiGraphics.cpp(346): [bb_Changed set to true]
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/FileName.cpp(941): Recognised Fileformat: pdf
lyx-2.0.1/src/support/filetools.cpp(990): [readBB_from_PSFile] no(e)ps-format
yx-2.0.1/src/insets/InsetGraphicsParams.cpp(266): BB_from_File: 



But the generated PDF looks fine.

Re: Lyx + pdf + aspell problem on windows

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi,

I just installed the 1.3.7 on two windows machines (XP and 2000) which
had aspell preinstalled in c:/aspell.
I cannot get lyx to use aspell. What should I do.


When you say this what do you mean? If you produce a test doc with clearly 
misspelled words and put the cursor at the start of the doc and select 
spell check from teh menu what happens?


Do you hjave a dictrionary installed?

ON the other hand if you are trying to change ispell to aspell in the 
preferences then this wont work. It always says I spell.




I changed the preview to call : acrord32.exe because there was nothing
there.

Now it calls acrobat reader but the reader always says file not found

Any ideas? (sorry if these questions have already been asked. I couldn't
find out how to search the mailing lists...)



Is the reader open before the call to view pdf? Try closing acrobat andf 
then selecting preview in lyx.




Primrose

Re: Lyx + pdf + aspell problem on windows

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi,

I just installed the 1.3.7 on two windows machines (XP and 2000) which
had aspell preinstalled in c:/aspell.
I cannot get lyx to use aspell. What should I do.


When you say this what do you mean? If you produce a test doc with clearly 
misspelled words and put the cursor at the start of the doc and select 
spell check from teh menu what happens?


Do you hjave a dictrionary installed?

ON the other hand if you are trying to change ispell to aspell in the 
preferences then this wont work. It always says I spell.




I changed the preview to call : acrord32.exe because there was nothing
there.

Now it calls acrobat reader but the reader always says file not found

Any ideas? (sorry if these questions have already been asked. I couldn't
find out how to search the mailing lists...)



Is the reader open before the call to view pdf? Try closing acrobat andf 
then selecting preview in lyx.




Primrose

Re: Lyx + pdf + aspell problem on windows

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi,

I just installed the 1.3.7 on two windows machines (XP and 2000) which
had aspell preinstalled in c:/aspell.
I cannot get lyx to use aspell. What should I do.


When you say this what do you mean? If you produce a test doc with clearly 
misspelled words and put the cursor at the start of the doc and select 
spell check from teh menu what happens?


Do you hjave a dictrionary installed?

ON the other hand if you are trying to change ispell to aspell in the 
preferences then this wont work. It always says I spell.




I changed the preview to call : acrord32.exe because there was nothing
there.

Now it calls acrobat reader but the reader always says "file not found"

Any ideas? (sorry if these questions have already been asked. I couldn't
find out how to search the mailing lists...)



Is the reader open before the call to view pdf? Try closing acrobat andf 
then selecting preview in lyx.




Primrose

Re: LyX help please! textclass error

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, deepa sritharan wrote:


Hi,
 I downloaded a LyX installation from the net, on which all features are 
functioning except that I am unable to view the dvi output file! The following 
error is generated for all document classes:

 Textclass error
 The document uses a missing TeX class   Lyx will not be able to produce 
output

 It would be really helpful if you can tell me how the problem can be fixed.

 Thank you


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Could you send some further info detailing what version of Lyx you are 
using (1.3.?) on what system (Win, Linux, Mac) and also what tex 
distribution you have installed (TexLive, Miktex etc)


This will make help a little more straightforward

Geoff

Re: aspell

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you for your fast responses.
I did what you said. First, I deinstalled all. After this I tried again. I
istalled Lyx with the lyx-installer and aspell was installed automatically,
too. afterwards I installed a german dictonary. but it didn't work. So I
deinstalled all again. now I installed aspell first  and after this lyx, who
found aspell. but it also didn't work. so i tried to run aspell in a console
with success. so, i think, the problem isn't the spellchecker. do you have
some other ideas or you see something I made wrong?

regards
Christopher

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What happens when you type a misspelled word in lyx and then run the spell 
checker??


Does it give any errors?

The preferences box will always say ispell by the way. So it may be that 
it is working you are just trying to change something that doesnt need to 
be changed

Re: LyX help please! textclass error

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, deepa sritharan wrote:


Hi,
 I downloaded a LyX installation from the net, on which all features are 
functioning except that I am unable to view the dvi output file! The following 
error is generated for all document classes:

 Textclass error
 The document uses a missing TeX class   Lyx will not be able to produce 
output

 It would be really helpful if you can tell me how the problem can be fixed.

 Thank you


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Could you send some further info detailing what version of Lyx you are 
using (1.3.?) on what system (Win, Linux, Mac) and also what tex 
distribution you have installed (TexLive, Miktex etc)


This will make help a little more straightforward

Geoff

Re: aspell

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you for your fast responses.
I did what you said. First, I deinstalled all. After this I tried again. I
istalled Lyx with the lyx-installer and aspell was installed automatically,
too. afterwards I installed a german dictonary. but it didn't work. So I
deinstalled all again. now I installed aspell first  and after this lyx, who
found aspell. but it also didn't work. so i tried to run aspell in a console
with success. so, i think, the problem isn't the spellchecker. do you have
some other ideas or you see something I made wrong?

regards
Christopher

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What happens when you type a misspelled word in lyx and then run the spell 
checker??


Does it give any errors?

The preferences box will always say ispell by the way. So it may be that 
it is working you are just trying to change something that doesnt need to 
be changed

Re: LyX help please! textclass error

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, deepa sritharan wrote:


Hi,
 I downloaded a LyX installation from the net, on which all features are 
functioning except that I am unable to view the dvi output file! The following 
error is generated for all document classes:

 Textclass error
 The document uses a missing TeX class " " Lyx will not be able to produce 
output

 It would be really helpful if you can tell me how the problem can be fixed.

 Thank you


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Could you send some further info detailing what version of Lyx you are 
using (1.3.?) on what system (Win, Linux, Mac) and also what tex 
distribution you have installed (TexLive, Miktex etc)


This will make help a little more straightforward

Geoff

Re: aspell

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thank you for your fast responses.
I did what you said. First, I deinstalled all. After this I tried again. I
istalled Lyx with the lyx-installer and aspell was installed automatically,
too. afterwards I installed a german dictonary. but it didn't work. So I
deinstalled all again. now I installed aspell first  and after this lyx, who
found aspell. but it also didn't work. so i tried to run aspell in a console
with success. so, i think, the problem isn't the spellchecker. do you have
some other ideas or you see something I made wrong?

regards
Christopher

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What happens when you type a misspelled word in lyx and then run the spell 
checker??


Does it give any errors?

The preferences box will always say ispell by the way. So it may be that 
it is working you are just trying to change something that doesnt need to 
be changed

1.3.7 and 1.4

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I just wondered if anyone knew the timescale for 1.4 release. I know that 
1.4pre3 has been available since christmas and this is nearly the final 
version.


The reason I ask is that with the release of 1.3.7 I have to decide 
whether to upgrade to that, or wait a few weeks and get the ful release of 
1.4?


While on the subject does anyone have a precompiled binary of 1.4pre for 
windows that they would be happy to forward to me.



Geoff

1.3.7 and 1.4

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I just wondered if anyone knew the timescale for 1.4 release. I know that 
1.4pre3 has been available since christmas and this is nearly the final 
version.


The reason I ask is that with the release of 1.3.7 I have to decide 
whether to upgrade to that, or wait a few weeks and get the ful release of 
1.4?


While on the subject does anyone have a precompiled binary of 1.4pre for 
windows that they would be happy to forward to me.



Geoff

1.3.7 and 1.4

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I just wondered if anyone knew the timescale for 1.4 release. I know that 
1.4pre3 has been available since christmas and this is nearly the final 
version.


The reason I ask is that with the release of 1.3.7 I have to decide 
whether to upgrade to that, or wait a few weeks and get the ful release of 
1.4?


While on the subject does anyone have a precompiled binary of 1.4pre for 
windows that they would be happy to forward to me.



Geoff

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Robert Orr wrote:




I cant see why one would set both.


I don't want to beat a dead horse, but, for
instance,when experimenting to get the image just
right one might enter both the H and W and some point
during the process.

So, if one enters both an H and a W parameter, does
LyX use the H and calculate the W, or does it take the
W and calculate the H?   I'm a little foggy on that
one and I've experimented with it to no conclusion.


I think you are getting confused by the two possible scenarios.

1) 'maintain aspect ratio' checked. In this case you would only logically 
set one parameter as the image automatically scaled by Latex. I have no 
idea what happens if you specify both width and height but it seems a 
silly thing to do anyway as you are trying to place a scaled image wrt one 
dimension.


2) 'maintain aspect ratio' unchecked. Now you need to enter both h and w. 
Both these are used to scale the image and Latex does nothing linking the 
two.




Phil



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Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Robert Orr wrote:




I cant see why one would set both.


I don't want to beat a dead horse, but, for
instance,when experimenting to get the image just
right one might enter both the H and W and some point
during the process.

So, if one enters both an H and a W parameter, does
LyX use the H and calculate the W, or does it take the
W and calculate the H?   I'm a little foggy on that
one and I've experimented with it to no conclusion.


I think you are getting confused by the two possible scenarios.

1) 'maintain aspect ratio' checked. In this case you would only logically 
set one parameter as the image automatically scaled by Latex. I have no 
idea what happens if you specify both width and height but it seems a 
silly thing to do anyway as you are trying to place a scaled image wrt one 
dimension.


2) 'maintain aspect ratio' unchecked. Now you need to enter both h and w. 
Both these are used to scale the image and Latex does nothing linking the 
two.




Phil



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Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Robert Orr wrote:




I cant see why one would set both.


I don't want to beat a dead horse, but, for
instance,when experimenting to get the image just
right one might enter both the H and W and some point
during the process.

So, if one enters both an H and a W parameter, does
LyX use the H and calculate the W, or does it take the
W and calculate the H?   I'm a little foggy on that
one and I've experimented with it to no conclusion.


I think you are getting confused by the two possible scenarios.

1) 'maintain aspect ratio' checked. In this case you would only logically 
set one parameter as the image automatically scaled by Latex. I have no 
idea what happens if you specify both width and height but it seems a 
silly thing to do anyway as you are trying to place a scaled image wrt one 
dimension.


2) 'maintain aspect ratio' unchecked. Now you need to enter both h and w. 
Both these are used to scale the image and Latex does nothing linking the 
two.




Phil



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Re: Superscript SOLVED

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005, Steve Litt wrote:


On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:12 pm, Charles de Miramon wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw
no provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the


Sorry to be an accurate scientist but really the 2 should be SUBscripted 
if you want to write O2, else it is O^2 which really means nothing at all.


Geoff



Format-Character dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this
can't be true -- how do I do it?

I'm using LyX 1.3.3.


You can insert a subscript with insert -- special character -- subscript.
It is a hack that will create a math inset with a subscript.
Or you can use in ERT O\textsuperscript{2}

The two solutions are not typographically equivalent, the superscript is
not placed at the same place. For abreviations superscripts like 12th for
example, or Mr. Dr., use textsuperscript for chemical symbols use a
mathematical inset.

I wish the actual superscript and subscript hacks could go away. They are a
pain when you export a LyX file to rtf (they are transformed in
mathematical formulas) and result in wrong typesetting. Lyx should default
to \textsuperscript and \textsubscript


Thanks Charles,

I tried these both, and they both worked. I chose the
Insert-Specialcharacter-superscript method for 2 reasons:

1) The 2 was visible in the LyX file, which is more clear
2) The 2 was bigger, which in this case I liked.

Thanks so much for the help.

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Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? ) ?

text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So 
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much smaller 
in print then the following are useful


text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the 
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the 
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted. 
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to 
distort.


In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want (taking 
in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.


Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% - that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  - that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that text%

and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width =
theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would like it
to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be fitted to
the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the paper, or
interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select 
'maintain aspect ratio'


Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor is
the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i have to
alter the width option from scale% to something else. but in doing that -
i may be setting the determining factor to something width related??? but i
must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the height
option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom margin
is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected - and
the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable amount of
time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom margin
overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese 
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? ) ?

text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much smaller
in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted.
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want (taking
in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


the problem is, that you cannot set width to 0 scale% and then adjust the
height option. the height option is locked as long as the width is set to
scale%.


My apologies, I meant 0 sp, or in fact any other option that lets you into 
the height box





martin

On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% - that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  - that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that text%

and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width =
theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would like

it

to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be fitted

to

the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the

paper, or

interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select
'maintain aspect ratio'

Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor

is

the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i have

to

alter the width option from scale% to something else. but in doing

that -

i may be setting the determining factor to something width related???

but i

must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the

height

option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom

margin

is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected -

and

the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable amount

of

time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom margin
overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? )

?


text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much

smaller

in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted.
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want

(taking

in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


ok - setting the width option to 0 something-else-than-scale% and then
height to 100 theight% (and keep aspect ratio) that set the image height to
the full height of the text-body. that is nice.

however


the caption now conflicts with the footer ... that was not what i meant!



You can only scale images, I am not sure you can scale floats which is 
what you are thinking happens.


The float is the image+caption. So really the scaling of the image, to fit 
the float on your page, will depend how much space your caption takes up.


For this you really need to proceed by trial and error. Now you know how 
to sclae your image you will just have to play a bit.





martin

On 12/12/05, Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


the problem is, that you cannot set width to 0 scale% and then adjust the
height option. the height option is locked as long as the width is set to
scale%.


martin

On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% - that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  - that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that

text%


and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width

=

theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would

like it

to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be

fitted to

the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the

paper, or

interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select
'maintain aspect ratio'

Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor

is

the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i

have to

alter the width option from scale% to something else. but in doing

that -

i may be setting the determining factor to something width related???

but i

must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the

height

option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom

margin

is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected -

and

the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable

amount of

time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom

margin

overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!?

) ?


text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page.

So

say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much

smaller

in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting

distorted.

However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want

(taking

in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Robert Orr wrote:




and when to use the maintain aspect ratio


So, on the aspect ratio, when one sets the H or W,
which one of them becomes the dominant variable when
the maintain aspect ratio box is checked? The H or
the W?

I cant see why one would set both. THe point is if you want you figure to 
be say 10cm wide, want to maintain the shape, and arent worried about 
height then you set the width and click 'maintain aspect ratio'


If you are however converned with height and not width do the opposite.

And finally if you want to specify a height/width ratio different from the 
original figure then enter values for both height and width and leave the 
'maintain aspect ratio' box blank.


In order to set the width or height to be calculated in proportion to the 
aspect ratio set the value to 0 sp.


e.g. I have a 5cm wide 2cm high figure

1) I want it to be 11cm wide on the page. Set width 11cm height 0sp and 
clivk maitina aspct


2) I want it to be 4cm hgih. Set width 0sp height 200% and selct maintain 
aspect


3) I wanr it to be 11cm wide and 4cm high. Set width 11cm height 4cm and 
uncheck maintain aspect.


I hope this is clear

Geoff

Re: Superscript SOLVED

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005, Steve Litt wrote:


On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:12 pm, Charles de Miramon wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw
no provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the


Sorry to be an accurate scientist but really the 2 should be SUBscripted 
if you want to write O2, else it is O^2 which really means nothing at all.


Geoff



Format-Character dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this
can't be true -- how do I do it?

I'm using LyX 1.3.3.


You can insert a subscript with insert -- special character -- subscript.
It is a hack that will create a math inset with a subscript.
Or you can use in ERT O\textsuperscript{2}

The two solutions are not typographically equivalent, the superscript is
not placed at the same place. For abreviations superscripts like 12th for
example, or Mr. Dr., use textsuperscript for chemical symbols use a
mathematical inset.

I wish the actual superscript and subscript hacks could go away. They are a
pain when you export a LyX file to rtf (they are transformed in
mathematical formulas) and result in wrong typesetting. Lyx should default
to \textsuperscript and \textsubscript


Thanks Charles,

I tried these both, and they both worked. I chose the
Insert-Specialcharacter-superscript method for 2 reasons:

1) The 2 was visible in the LyX file, which is more clear
2) The 2 was bigger, which in this case I liked.

Thanks so much for the help.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author:
  * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
  * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
  * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
Webmaster
  * Troubleshooters.Com
  * http://www.troubleshooters.com

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? ) ?

text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So 
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much smaller 
in print then the following are useful


text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the 
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the 
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted. 
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to 
distort.


In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want (taking 
in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.


Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% - that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  - that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that text%

and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width =
theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would like it
to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be fitted to
the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the paper, or
interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select 
'maintain aspect ratio'


Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor is
the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i have to
alter the width option from scale% to something else. but in doing that -
i may be setting the determining factor to something width related??? but i
must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the height
option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom margin
is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected - and
the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable amount of
time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom margin
overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese 
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? ) ?

text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much smaller
in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted.
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want (taking
in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


the problem is, that you cannot set width to 0 scale% and then adjust the
height option. the height option is locked as long as the width is set to
scale%.


My apologies, I meant 0 sp, or in fact any other option that lets you into 
the height box





martin

On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% - that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  - that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that text%

and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width =
theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would like

it

to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be fitted

to

the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the

paper, or

interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select
'maintain aspect ratio'

Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor

is

the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i have

to

alter the width option from scale% to something else. but in doing

that -

i may be setting the determining factor to something width related???

but i

must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the

height

option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom

margin

is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected -

and

the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable amount

of

time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom margin
overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? )

?


text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much

smaller

in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted.
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want

(taking

in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


ok - setting the width option to 0 something-else-than-scale% and then
height to 100 theight% (and keep aspect ratio) that set the image height to
the full height of the text-body. that is nice.

however


the caption now conflicts with the footer ... that was not what i meant!



You can only scale images, I am not sure you can scale floats which is 
what you are thinking happens.


The float is the image+caption. So really the scaling of the image, to fit 
the float on your page, will depend how much space your caption takes up.


For this you really need to proceed by trial and error. Now you know how 
to sclae your image you will just have to play a bit.





martin

On 12/12/05, Martin A. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


the problem is, that you cannot set width to 0 scale% and then adjust the
height option. the height option is locked as long as the width is set to
scale%.


martin

On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% - that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  - that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that

text%


and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width

=

theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would

like it

to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be

fitted to

the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the

paper, or

interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select
'maintain aspect ratio'

Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor

is

the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i

have to

alter the width option from scale% to something else. but in doing

that -

i may be setting the determining factor to something width related???

but i

must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the

height

option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom

margin

is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected -

and

the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable

amount of

time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom

margin

overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!?

) ?


text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page.

So

say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much

smaller

in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting

distorted.

However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want

(taking

in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the maintain aspect ratio button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Robert Orr wrote:




and when to use the maintain aspect ratio


So, on the aspect ratio, when one sets the H or W,
which one of them becomes the dominant variable when
the maintain aspect ratio box is checked? The H or
the W?

I cant see why one would set both. THe point is if you want you figure to 
be say 10cm wide, want to maintain the shape, and arent worried about 
height then you set the width and click 'maintain aspect ratio'


If you are however converned with height and not width do the opposite.

And finally if you want to specify a height/width ratio different from the 
original figure then enter values for both height and width and leave the 
'maintain aspect ratio' box blank.


In order to set the width or height to be calculated in proportion to the 
aspect ratio set the value to 0 sp.


e.g. I have a 5cm wide 2cm high figure

1) I want it to be 11cm wide on the page. Set width 11cm height 0sp and 
clivk maitina aspct


2) I want it to be 4cm hgih. Set width 0sp height 200% and selct maintain 
aspect


3) I wanr it to be 11cm wide and 4cm high. Set width 11cm height 4cm and 
uncheck maintain aspect.


I hope this is clear

Geoff

Re: Superscript

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005, Steve Litt wrote:


On Saturday 10 December 2005 02:12 pm, Charles de Miramon wrote:

Steve Litt wrote:

Hi all,

I just went to write O2, as in two oxygen atoms stuck together, and saw
no provision for superscripting the 2, at least not on the


Sorry to be an accurate scientist but really the 2 should be SUBscripted 
if you want to write O2, else it is O^2 which really means nothing at all.


Geoff



Format->Character dialog box. There was also no subscript. I know this
can't be true -- how do I do it?

I'm using LyX 1.3.3.


You can insert a subscript with insert --> special character --> subscript.
It is a hack that will create a math inset with a subscript.
Or you can use in ERT O\textsuperscript{2}

The two solutions are not typographically equivalent, the superscript is
not placed at the same place. For abreviations superscripts like 12th for
example, or Mr. Dr., use textsuperscript for chemical symbols use a
mathematical inset.

I wish the actual superscript and subscript hacks could go away. They are a
pain when you export a LyX file to rtf (they are transformed in
mathematical formulas) and result in wrong typesetting. Lyx should default
to \textsuperscript and \textsubscript


Thanks Charles,

I tried these both, and they both worked. I chose the
Insert->Specialcharacter->superscript method for 2 reasons:

1) The 2 was visible in the LyX file, which is more clear
2) The 2 was bigger, which in this case I liked.

Thanks so much for the help.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author:
  * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
  * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
  * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
Webmaster
  * Troubleshooters.Com
  * http://www.troubleshooters.com

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? ) ?

text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So 
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much smaller 
in print then the following are useful


text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the 
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the 
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted. 
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to 
distort.


In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want (taking 
in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.


Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the "maintain aspect ratio" button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% -> that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  -> that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that text%

and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width =
theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would like it
to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be fitted to
the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the paper, or
interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select 
'maintain aspect ratio'


Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor is
the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i have to
alter the width option from "scale%" to something else. but in doing that -
i may be setting the determining factor to something width related??? but i
must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the height
option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom margin
is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected - and
the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable amount of
time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom margin
overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese 
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? ) ?

text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much smaller
in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted.
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want (taking
in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the "maintain aspect ratio" button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


the problem is, that you cannot set width to 0 scale% and then adjust the
height option. the height option is locked as long as the width is set to
scale%.


My apologies, I meant 0 sp, or in fact any other option that lets you into 
the height box





martin

On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% -> that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  -> that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that text%

and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width =
theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would like

it

to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be fitted

to

the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the

paper, or

interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select
'maintain aspect ratio'

Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor

is

the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i have

to

alter the width option from "scale%" to something else. but in doing

that -

i may be setting the determining factor to something width related???

but i

must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the

height

option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom

margin

is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected -

and

the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable amount

of

time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom margin
overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!? )

?


text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page. So
say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much

smaller

in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting distorted.
However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want

(taking

in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the "maintain aspect ratio" button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


ok - setting the width option to 0 something-else-than-scale% and then
height to 100 theight% (and keep aspect ratio) that set the image height to
the full height of the text-body. that is nice.

however


the caption now conflicts with the footer ... that was not what i meant!



You can only scale images, I am not sure you can scale floats which is 
what you are thinking happens.


The float is the image+caption. So really the scaling of the image, to fit 
the float on your page, will depend how much space your caption takes up.


For this you really need to proceed by trial and error. Now you know how 
to sclae your image you will just have to play a bit.





martin

On 12/12/05, Martin A. Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


the problem is, that you cannot set width to 0 scale% and then adjust the
height option. the height option is locked as long as the width is set to
scale%.


martin

On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i am still confused.

page% -> that is the width of the page from paper edge to paper edge?
line%  -> that is the width from from margin to margin? or is that

text%


and which of these settings include footer and header - that would be
pheight% as opposed to theight%?

actually, these abbreviations are not very logic - i can choose width

=

theight and hight=text - i find that confusing.

my current problem is a narrow, figure that is quite high. i would

like it

to be rescaled maintaining aspect ratio, but the height should be

fitted to

the height of the text-body - so it doesnt go over the edge of the

paper, or

interferes with the footer or header.



Simply set Width to 0 scale% and height to 100 theight% and select
'maintain aspect ratio'

Tell me if this works


random things to get there. first of all, since the determining factor

is

the height, i need to adjust the height option - and to do that - i

have to

alter the width option from "scale%" to something else. but in doing

that -

i may be setting the determining factor to something width related???

but i

must set the width option to something before i am allowed to set the

height

option

so with widht=theight% height=theight% and aspect ratio selected. that
results in the figure overshooting the right margin - but the bottom

margin

is ok.

- and with width=line% and height=theight% and aspect ratio selected -

and

the result overshoots the bottom margin - but the right margin is ok.

now, i am pretty sure that it should be possible in a reasonable

amount of

time to get these settings set so that both the right and bottom

margin

overshoots - but how to get it right?


You dont have to set every setting. Just choose the ones that make snese
and set the others to 0








martin



On 12/12/05, Geoffrey Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martin A. Hansen wrote:


i have been trying to figure out how the different settings in
graphic-output works.

what are the meaning of these ( this is not mentioned in the docs?!?

) ?


text%
col%
page%
line%
theight%
pheight%


THese allow you to scale the image as you want it to be on the page.

So

say your original graphic is A4 sized but you want it to be much

smaller

in print then the following are useful

text% - this is percentage of text width
col%  -   column width
page% -   page width
line% -   line width
theight% -text height
pheight% -page height

So you can set either the width or height of the image. Using the
'maintain aspect ratio' box locks the figure so that if you halve the
width you also halve the height. It stops the figure getting

distorted.

However you can set the height and width thus forcing the image to
distort.

In general i set the width of my figures so they look how i want

(taking

in to account the aspect ratio) and use the text% option.

Just play about and see what suits.

Geoff



when to use which?

moreover, when to set height and width?

and when to use the "maintain aspect ratio" button?


martin

Re: missing documentation ...?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Robert Orr wrote:




and when to use the "maintain aspect ratio"


So, on the aspect ratio, when one sets the H or W,
which one of them becomes the dominant variable when
the maintain aspect ratio box is checked? The H or
the W?

I cant see why one would set both. THe point is if you want you figure to 
be say 10cm wide, want to maintain the shape, and arent worried about 
height then you set the width and click 'maintain aspect ratio'


If you are however converned with height and not width do the opposite.

And finally if you want to specify a height/width ratio different from the 
original figure then enter values for both height and width and leave the 
'maintain aspect ratio' box blank.


In order to set the width or height to be calculated in proportion to the 
aspect ratio set the value to 0 sp.


e.g. I have a 5cm wide 2cm high figure

1) I want it to be 11cm wide on the page. Set width 11cm height 0sp and 
clivk maitina aspct


2) I want it to be 4cm hgih. Set width 0sp height 200% and selct maintain 
aspect


3) I wanr it to be 11cm wide and 4cm high. Set width 11cm height 4cm and 
uncheck maintain aspect.


I hope this is clear

Geoff

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



On Thursday 08 December 2005 00:47, you wrote:

 Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py
 script when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you
 could see if the attached patch fixes things?


I would love to help but I am not in a position, or experienced enough, 
to

compile from scratch - sorry.


You don't need to. You need only modify the file
C:\Program Files\LyX\Resources\lyx\scripts\lyxpreview2ppm.py
by hand (using your favourite editor), replacing the line that is 
prefixed

with a '-' character with those prefixed with a '+'. Removing that '+' of
course ;-)

The file in question is a Python script that is processed by python.exe 
on the

fly. No compilation necessary.


However this does sound like it could be the route of the problem.


So test it.

Angus


Ok sorry for my ignorance of how to use the diff. I have now made the 
changes and it does indeed solve the problem.


Instant Preview now works with the installation at C:\Program Files\Lyx 
(the default)

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



On Thursday 08 December 2005 00:47, you wrote:

 Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py
 script when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you
 could see if the attached patch fixes things?


I would love to help but I am not in a position, or experienced enough, 
to

compile from scratch - sorry.


You don't need to. You need only modify the file
C:\Program Files\LyX\Resources\lyx\scripts\lyxpreview2ppm.py
by hand (using your favourite editor), replacing the line that is 
prefixed

with a '-' character with those prefixed with a '+'. Removing that '+' of
course ;-)

The file in question is a Python script that is processed by python.exe 
on the

fly. No compilation necessary.


However this does sound like it could be the route of the problem.


So test it.

Angus


Ok sorry for my ignorance of how to use the diff. I have now made the 
changes and it does indeed solve the problem.


Instant Preview now works with the installation at C:\Program Files\Lyx 
(the default)

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Angus Leeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



On Thursday 08 December 2005 00:47, you wrote:

> Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py
> script when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you
> could see if the attached patch fixes things?


I would love to help but I am not in a position, or experienced enough, 
to

compile from scratch - sorry.


You don't need to. You need only modify the file
C:\Program Files\LyX\Resources\lyx\scripts\lyxpreview2ppm.py
by hand (using your favourite editor), replacing the line that is 
prefixed

with a '-' character with those prefixed with a '+'. Removing that '+' of
course ;-)

The file in question is a Python script that is processed by python.exe 
on the

fly. No compilation necessary.


However this does sound like it could be the route of the problem.


So test it.

Angus


Ok sorry for my ignorance of how to use the diff. I have now made the 
changes and it does indeed solve the problem.


Instant Preview now works with the installation at C:\Program Files\Lyx 
(the default)

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely 
except for Instant Preview. I have checked for all the files and the 
preview.sty latex package but it still doesnt seem to work.


Here's the InstantPreview page describing how it is enabled:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview

Sometimes it takes a while until the formulas are previewed. So scroll to 
a formula and wait at least 30 seconds (with cursor outside of the 
formula!). If this doesn't help could you please start LyX from the 
cmd-console with the command


lyx -dbg 3

and report what you see there.

regards Uwe


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Thanks Geoffrey for your investigation. I also get this error with some 
documents that use complicated math constructs (for example if I load my 
math-documentation

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle.lyx )

The problem is a bug in the Ghostscript version (8.15) that is used 
internally by MiKTeX.


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without preamble 
stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B

regards Uwe


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine so I am not 
convinced it is a problem with MikTex as I have not changed my MikTex 
installation. 

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error
It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.


Could you please send me the 0lyxpreview.ps? (This file is stored in 
LyX's temp directory.)




I have sent this off list

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine


That means Ghostscript was already installed when you used my installer? 
If yes what is the version of Ghostscript?


It was AFPL GhostScript 8.51 but I did a full uninstall before I began with 
your installer.




Another idea:

Could you please close LyX and then move its preferences folder LyX from
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\
to another location and restart LyX? (LyX should then create a new 
preferences folder)

After this enable Instant preview again.
If it works, could you please zip the old preferences folder and send it 
to me.




It didn't work.

Thanks in advance
Uwe


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


I am not sure whether this is important - it appears each time before the

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

error message.

Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


You can ignore this. This messafe wil always be printed in the console 
also when Instant preview works.



Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


And on mine if i put 0lyxpreview.ps in the same folder as gswin32c.exe or 
tell it where to find it. This suggests it cant find the .ps file maybe?


Could you search the whole c:\ drive for the file gswin32c.exe? Does it 
exist twice? Are there perhpas paths in the PATH environment variable 
left?


No other copies of gswin32 and nothing left in the PATH environment variable


If nothing else helps, reinstll LyX again with my installer (my 
uninstaller cleans up the registry better than the original uninstallers).



Still doesnt work after this


regards Uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)



Another thing would be write permissions. Please assure that LyX's temp 
directory and output/working directory has write permissions.


The temp directory constantly resets itself to read-only but it must have 
write permissions as all the preview files appear there.




Please also send me a small example LyX-file that you used to test Instant 
preview.



I will send one off list but it even fails for something simple like a=b



regards Uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


Yes sorry. I uninstalled everything associated with Lyx and as such none of 
the above were present on the system.


Very odd



regards uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


regards uwe


Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx to 
F:\lyx


Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\

Interestingly InstantPreview now works.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces in 
path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


Also - unrelated I am sure - the startup time in the non-default locations 
is much quicker.


Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?


Not sure why I didnt try a different nonspaced path before but I think 
Instnat Preview is the only problem. It certainly compiles my 120 page 
thesis no problem in all locations via Export-blah


I think the installer is very good. I want my research group to use lyx but 
the IT guy said no after he watched me install, fiddle, hack and general 
force my way through 1.3.5 for Windows. Now with this one package I can see 
it on all machines next week!


Thanks for your hard work.

Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey Lloyd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



Using the Angus installer, I have not been able to install to C:\LyX
for 1.3.7pre without the install failing. I suppose though, that if using
Instant preview doesn't work with the Angus installer, installing to
C:\program files\LyX, then that would have been reported. Sometimes
eccentric computer behavior is so subtly causal that it seems like magic.


From my experience Instant Preview will work with the Uwe installer if Lyx 

is put in a path without spaces such as C:\Lyx

Everything else appears to work fine wherever you put Lyx.

Like I said this is a Ghostscript not Lyx/Latex issue and they have been 
informed.




TeXnocratically speaking without the e,
Stephen

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey Lloyd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed 
lyx to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a 
spaces in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed 
to C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?

I'm under the impression that the same ghostscript was used in both
cases, C:\Lyx which worked and C:\program files\lyx which did not.

The difference is in the path. Miktex and Aspell say to install in paths
without spaces. If Miktex or Aspell failed because of a space in the
path one would not say there is a Miktex or Aspell problem but a
Path problem (due to Linux/Windows porting). The Path appears to
be the problem with ghostscript not working. This seems to be my
day to learn things, so could you provide a little more clarity? I don't
mean repeat Uwe's evaluation, but explain why his diagnosis is correct.


Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with 
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.


Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this case 
but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not related.


I honestly couldnt say.












Uwe wrote:
Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


GL wrote: It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)

Regards,
Stephen

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Stephen Harris wrote:

If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?



Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.

Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this
case but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not
related.

I honestly couldnt say.


Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py 
script

when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you could see if
the attached patch fixes things?

I would love to help but I am not in a position, or experienced enough, to 
compile from scratch - sorry.


However this does sound like it could be the route of the problem.

Geoff



--
Angus 

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely 
except for Instant Preview. I have checked for all the files and the 
preview.sty latex package but it still doesnt seem to work.


Here's the InstantPreview page describing how it is enabled:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview

Sometimes it takes a while until the formulas are previewed. So scroll to 
a formula and wait at least 30 seconds (with cursor outside of the 
formula!). If this doesn't help could you please start LyX from the 
cmd-console with the command


lyx -dbg 3

and report what you see there.

regards Uwe


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Thanks Geoffrey for your investigation. I also get this error with some 
documents that use complicated math constructs (for example if I load my 
math-documentation

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle.lyx )

The problem is a bug in the Ghostscript version (8.15) that is used 
internally by MiKTeX.


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without preamble 
stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B

regards Uwe


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine so I am not 
convinced it is a problem with MikTex as I have not changed my MikTex 
installation. 

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error
It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.


Could you please send me the 0lyxpreview.ps? (This file is stored in 
LyX's temp directory.)




I have sent this off list

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine


That means Ghostscript was already installed when you used my installer? 
If yes what is the version of Ghostscript?


It was AFPL GhostScript 8.51 but I did a full uninstall before I began with 
your installer.




Another idea:

Could you please close LyX and then move its preferences folder LyX from
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\
to another location and restart LyX? (LyX should then create a new 
preferences folder)

After this enable Instant preview again.
If it works, could you please zip the old preferences folder and send it 
to me.




It didn't work.

Thanks in advance
Uwe


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


I am not sure whether this is important - it appears each time before the

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

error message.

Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


You can ignore this. This messafe wil always be printed in the console 
also when Instant preview works.



Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


And on mine if i put 0lyxpreview.ps in the same folder as gswin32c.exe or 
tell it where to find it. This suggests it cant find the .ps file maybe?


Could you search the whole c:\ drive for the file gswin32c.exe? Does it 
exist twice? Are there perhpas paths in the PATH environment variable 
left?


No other copies of gswin32 and nothing left in the PATH environment variable


If nothing else helps, reinstll LyX again with my installer (my 
uninstaller cleans up the registry better than the original uninstallers).



Still doesnt work after this


regards Uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)



Another thing would be write permissions. Please assure that LyX's temp 
directory and output/working directory has write permissions.


The temp directory constantly resets itself to read-only but it must have 
write permissions as all the preview files appear there.




Please also send me a small example LyX-file that you used to test Instant 
preview.



I will send one off list but it even fails for something simple like a=b



regards Uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


Yes sorry. I uninstalled everything associated with Lyx and as such none of 
the above were present on the system.


Very odd



regards uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


regards uwe


Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx to 
F:\lyx


Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\

Interestingly InstantPreview now works.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces in 
path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


Also - unrelated I am sure - the startup time in the non-default locations 
is much quicker.


Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?


Not sure why I didnt try a different nonspaced path before but I think 
Instnat Preview is the only problem. It certainly compiles my 120 page 
thesis no problem in all locations via Export-blah


I think the installer is very good. I want my research group to use lyx but 
the IT guy said no after he watched me install, fiddle, hack and general 
force my way through 1.3.5 for Windows. Now with this one package I can see 
it on all machines next week!


Thanks for your hard work.

Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey Lloyd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



Using the Angus installer, I have not been able to install to C:\LyX
for 1.3.7pre without the install failing. I suppose though, that if using
Instant preview doesn't work with the Angus installer, installing to
C:\program files\LyX, then that would have been reported. Sometimes
eccentric computer behavior is so subtly causal that it seems like magic.


From my experience Instant Preview will work with the Uwe installer if Lyx 

is put in a path without spaces such as C:\Lyx

Everything else appears to work fine wherever you put Lyx.

Like I said this is a Ghostscript not Lyx/Latex issue and they have been 
informed.




TeXnocratically speaking without the e,
Stephen

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Uwe Stöhr 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51


- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Geoffrey Lloyd 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX-Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed 
lyx to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a 
spaces in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed 
to C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?

I'm under the impression that the same ghostscript was used in both
cases, C:\Lyx which worked and C:\program files\lyx which did not.

The difference is in the path. Miktex and Aspell say to install in paths
without spaces. If Miktex or Aspell failed because of a space in the
path one would not say there is a Miktex or Aspell problem but a
Path problem (due to Linux/Windows porting). The Path appears to
be the problem with ghostscript not working. This seems to be my
day to learn things, so could you provide a little more clarity? I don't
mean repeat Uwe's evaluation, but explain why his diagnosis is correct.


Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with 
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.


Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this case 
but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not related.


I honestly couldnt say.












Uwe wrote:
Could you check as last try to copy the 0lyxpreview.ps from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


GL wrote: It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)

Regards,
Stephen

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Stephen Harris wrote:

If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?



Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.

Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this
case but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not
related.

I honestly couldnt say.


Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py 
script

when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you could see if
the attached patch fixes things?

I would love to help but I am not in a position, or experienced enough, to 
compile from scratch - sorry.


However this does sound like it could be the route of the problem.

Geoff



--
Angus 

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely 
except for Instant Preview. I have checked for all the files and the 
preview.sty latex package but it still doesnt seem to work.


Here's the InstantPreview page describing how it is enabled:

http://wiki.lyx.org/0.6.15/pmwiki.php/Windows.InstantPreview

Sometimes it takes a while until the formulas are previewed. So scroll to 
a formula and wait at least 30 seconds (with cursor outside of the 
formula!). If this doesn't help could you please start LyX from the 
cmd-console with the command


lyx -dbg 3

and report what you see there.

regards Uwe


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error

It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Thanks Geoffrey for your investigation. I also get this error with some 
documents that use complicated math constructs (for example if I load my 
math-documentation

http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/LyXMathebefehle/LyXMathebefehle.lyx )

The problem is a bug in the Ghostscript version (8.15) that is used 
internally by MiKTeX.


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without preamble 
stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B

regards Uwe


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine so I am not 
convinced it is a problem with MikTex as I have not changed my MikTex 
installation. 

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:


Ok the debug window clearly shows an error
It says

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps


Does Instant preview work when you create a new document (without 
preamble stuff) with simple formulas like:


A=B


Yes I get the same error - except the number increaes by 1 eachtime.


Could you please send me the "0lyxpreview.ps"? (This file is stored in 
LyX's temp directory.)




I have sent this off list

For reference when I had the original 1.3.6 version (Angus Installer) and 
installed ghostscript by hand Instant Preview worked fine


That means Ghostscript was already installed when you used my installer? 
If yes what is the version of Ghostscript?


It was AFPL GhostScript 8.51 but I did a full uninstall before I began with 
your installer.




Another idea:

Could you please close LyX and then move its preferences folder "LyX" from
C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\
to another location and restart LyX? (LyX should then create a new 
preferences folder)

After this enable Instant preview again.
If it works, could you please zip the old preferences folder and send it 
to me.




It didn't work.

Thanks in advance
Uwe


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


I am not sure whether this is important - it appears each time before the

Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

error message.

Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Another message I do seem to get is this-

Consider installing the PyWin extension modules if you're irritated by 
windows appearing briefly


You can ignore this. This messafe wil always be printed in the console 
also when Instant preview works.



Failed: gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

>
Also I can open and view the .ps file here using gsview which uses 
ghostscript from your insraller.


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


And on mine if i put 0lyxpreview.ps in the same folder as gswin32c.exe or 
tell it where to find it. This suggests it cant find the .ps file maybe?


Could you search the whole "c:\" drive for the file gswin32c.exe? Does it 
exist twice? Are there perhpas paths in the PATH environment variable 
left?


No other copies of gswin32 and nothing left in the PATH environment variable


If nothing else helps, reinstll LyX again with my installer (my 
uninstaller cleans up the registry better than the original uninstallers).



Still doesnt work after this


regards Uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


The command
gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps
is succesful with your file on my system.


Could you check as last try to copy the "0lyxpreview.ps" from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)



Another thing would be write permissions. Please assure that LyX's temp 
directory and output/working directory has write permissions.


The temp directory constantly resets itself to read-only but it must have 
write permissions as all the preview files appear there.




Please also send me a small example LyX-file that you used to test Instant 
preview.



I will send one off list but it even fails for something simple like a=b



regards Uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


Yes sorry. I uninstalled everything associated with Lyx and as such none of 
the above were present on the system.


Very odd



regards uwe

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Here is the lyxrc.defaults file which shows the path from Lyx


Everything is fine there. So I have now no more ideas.

What about this:

What was already installed when you used my installer? Python, MSYS, 
Perl?


regards uwe


Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx to 
F:\lyx


Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\

Interestingly InstantPreview now works.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces in 
path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


Also - unrelated I am sure - the startup time in the non-default locations 
is much quicker.


Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?


Not sure why I didnt try a different nonspaced path before but I think 
Instnat Preview is the only problem. It certainly compiles my 120 page 
thesis no problem in all locations via Export->blah


I think the installer is very good. I want my research group to use lyx but 
the IT guy said no after he watched me install, fiddle, hack and general 
force my way through 1.3.5 for Windows. Now with this one package I can see 
it on all machines next week!


Thanks for your hard work.

Geoff

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Geoffrey Lloyd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed lyx 
to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a spaces 
in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed to 
C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



Using the Angus installer, I have not been able to install to C:\LyX
for 1.3.7pre without the install failing. I suppose though, that if using
Instant preview doesn't work with the Angus installer, installing to
C:\program files\LyX, then that would have been reported. Sometimes
eccentric computer behavior is so subtly causal that it seems like magic.


From my experience Instant Preview will work with the Uwe installer if Lyx 

is put in a path without spaces such as C:\Lyx

Everything else appears to work fine wherever you put Lyx.

Like I said this is a Ghostscript not Lyx/Latex issue and they have been 
informed.




TeXnocratically speaking without the "e",
Stephen

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Uwe Stöhr" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Uwe Stöhr" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51


- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Geoffrey Lloyd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51




- Original Message - 
From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Geoffrey Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX-Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Having also run out of ideas I created a new partition and installed 
lyx to F:\lyx

Aspell and GSVIEW still installed to C:\
Interestingly InstantPreview now works.


Yes! Very good to hear.

I uninstalled and reinstalled in the usual C:\Program Files\Lyx and it 
failed


I tried again at C:\Lyx and it worked fine once again.  Is this a 
spaces in path problem (I am using Miktex 2.4.1704) ???


It seems so, I'll test it.
(I use a german Windows where the default path is C:\Programme\LyX)
But anyway, is the Instant preview the only problem when you installed 
to C:\Program Files\Lyx ?




Geoffrey, that was some good sleuthing work, I admired the ingenuity
and persistence. The documentation for Miktex either flatly states, or
strongly recommends, installing MikTex to a directory without spaces.
I think the defaults are c:\texmf and c:\localtexmf.


Just to clear this up this is a problem with Ghostscript not Miktex.



If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did "gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps" work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?

I'm under the impression that the same ghostscript was used in both
cases, C:\Lyx which worked and C:\program files\lyx which did not.

The difference is in the path. Miktex and Aspell say to install in paths
without spaces. If Miktex or Aspell failed because of a space in the
path one would not say there is a Miktex or Aspell problem but a
Path problem (due to Linux/Windows porting). The Path appears to
be the problem with ghostscript not working. This seems to be my
day to learn things, so could you provide a little more clarity? I don't
mean repeat Uwe's evaluation, but explain why his diagnosis is correct.


Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with 
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.


Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this case 
but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not related.


I honestly couldnt say.












Uwe wrote:
Could you check as last try to copy the "0lyxpreview.ps" from LyX's temp 
directory to LyX's install folder ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin
Then start a console, change to ~\etc\Ghostscript\bin and try if the 
command


gswin32c.exe 0lyxpreview.ps

is successful.


GL wrote: It is (I think i mentioned this in the last email)

Regards,
Stephen

Re: WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Angus Leeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: WinInstaller 0.51



Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

Stephen Harris wrote:

If this is a problem with Ghostscript, rather than paths with spaces, or
LyX, why did "gswin32.exe 0lsypreview.ps" work? Was Ghostscript
used to create 0lsypreview.ps?



Hmmm good point. Wherever Lyx is the temp directory still has paths with
spaces and so 0lyxpreview.ps still has spaces in its path.

Maybe it is something to do with the path to GS having spaces in this
case but we have stumbled across another problem with GS which is not
related.

I honestly couldnt say.


Me neither. However, there *is* a problem with the lyxpreview2ppm.py 
script

when the path to the executable contains spaces. Perhaps you could see if
the attached patch fixes things?

I would love to help but I am not in a position, or experienced enough, to 
compile from scratch - sorry.


However this does sound like it could be the route of the problem.

Geoff



--
Angus 

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely except 
for Instant Preview. 

I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still 
doesnt seem to work.

Anyone got any ideas?

Geoff

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I have just installed this and all seems to work nicely except for Instant 
Preview. 

I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still 
doesnt seem to work.

Anyone got any ideas?

Geoff

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely except 
for Instant Preview. 

I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still 
doesnt seem to work.

Anyone got any ideas?

Geoff

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I have just installed this and all seems to work nicely except for Instant 
Preview. 

I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still 
doesnt seem to work.

Anyone got any ideas?

Geoff

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I have just installed this (version small) and all seems to work nicely except 
for Instant Preview. 

I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still 
doesnt seem to work.

Anyone got any ideas?

Geoff

WinInstaller 0.51

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I have just installed this and all seems to work nicely except for Instant 
Preview. 

I have checked for all the files and the preview.sty latex package but it still 
doesnt seem to work.

Anyone got any ideas?

Geoff

WinInstaller

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I am having problems downloading the wininstaller (v0.4) from the berlios 
website. Everytime it clicks through to Cannot find Server.

Does anyone know if this is a problem at their end or mine - my XP box is 
gently corrupting so it wouldn't surprise me.

Geoff

WinInstaller

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I am having problems downloading the wininstaller (v0.4) from the berlios 
website. Everytime it clicks through to Cannot find Server.

Does anyone know if this is a problem at their end or mine - my XP box is 
gently corrupting so it wouldn't surprise me.

Geoff

WinInstaller

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

Hi

I am having problems downloading the wininstaller (v0.4) from the berlios 
website. Everytime it clicks through to Cannot find Server.

Does anyone know if this is a problem at their end or mine - my XP box is 
gently corrupting so it wouldn't surprise me.

Geoff

Re: using hyperlinks?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Stacia Hartleben [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: using hyperlinks?


II'm using the plain PDF view, the one that creates from PS
files..should I try the other PDF export things? Could someone
possibly send me a test lyx file that has a hyperlink in it?

---

IIRC hyperref only works with pdflatex export route.

Try that and it should work.

Geoff


On 12/3/05, Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Stacia Hartleben wrote:

 I'm using the \usepackage{hyperref} in my preamble, and when I write a
 URL in the text, it will turn into a link, however the
 \href{http://www.lyx.org}{LyX} type things do not work and just show
 the plain text LyX without a link.

The comand is correct. What is your document output type? If you
generate a PDF using Export/View - PDF(pdflatex) it should work.

regards Uwe

Re: using hyperlinks?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Stacia Hartleben [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX Users lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: using hyperlinks?


II'm using the plain PDF view, the one that creates from PS
files..should I try the other PDF export things? Could someone
possibly send me a test lyx file that has a hyperlink in it?

---

IIRC hyperref only works with pdflatex export route.

Try that and it should work.

Geoff


On 12/3/05, Uwe Stöhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Stacia Hartleben wrote:

 I'm using the \usepackage{hyperref} in my preamble, and when I write a
 URL in the text, it will turn into a link, however the
 \href{http://www.lyx.org}{LyX} type things do not work and just show
 the plain text LyX without a link.

The comand is correct. What is your document output type? If you
generate a PDF using Export/View - PDF(pdflatex) it should work.

regards Uwe

Re: using hyperlinks?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Stacia Hartleben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX Users" 
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: using hyperlinks?


II'm using the plain PDF view, the one that creates from PS
files..should I try the other PDF export things? Could someone
possibly send me a test lyx file that has a hyperlink in it?

---

IIRC hyperref only works with pdflatex export route.

Try that and it should work.

Geoff


On 12/3/05, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Stacia Hartleben wrote:

> I'm using the \usepackage{hyperref} in my preamble, and when I write a
> URL in the text, it will turn into a link, however the
> \href{http://www.lyx.org}{LyX} type things do not work and just show
> the plain text "LyX" without a link.

The comand is correct. What is your document output type? If you
generate a PDF using Export/View -> PDF(pdflatex) it should work.

regards Uwe

Re: Creating DocBook stuff using LyX

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: Creating DocBook stuff using LyX



I've just managed to get the job of putting together the documentation
for a SourceForge project, and it would be exceedingly helpful if I were
to be able to do it on LyX. Unfortunately, it requires DocBook format
stuff, and I don't know how (or if it's possible) to create that using
LyX.

Any elucidation would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dan


A quick google on docbook lyx brought up the following among many others

http://bgu.chez.tiscali.fr/doc/db4lyx/

Seems comprehensive

Re: Creating DocBook stuff using LyX

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: Creating DocBook stuff using LyX



I've just managed to get the job of putting together the documentation
for a SourceForge project, and it would be exceedingly helpful if I were
to be able to do it on LyX. Unfortunately, it requires DocBook format
stuff, and I don't know how (or if it's possible) to create that using
LyX.

Any elucidation would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dan


A quick google on docbook lyx brought up the following among many others

http://bgu.chez.tiscali.fr/doc/db4lyx/

Seems comprehensive

Re: Creating DocBook stuff using LyX

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: Creating DocBook stuff using LyX



I've just managed to get the job of putting together the documentation
for a SourceForge project, and it would be exceedingly helpful if I were
to be able to do it on LyX. Unfortunately, it requires DocBook format
stuff, and I don't know how (or if it's possible) to create that using
LyX.

Any elucidation would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Dan


A quick google on "docbook lyx" brought up the following among many others

http://bgu.chez.tiscali.fr/doc/db4lyx/

Seems comprehensive

Re: Lyx command line question

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lyx command line question



Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2005 16:09 schrieb Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.):

Georg/Angus,

From within the GUI things work fine. It is just the conversion on the
commandline that does not do the part where the gif file is converted to
some format pdflatex understands. Convert is present on my system.
This could be a bug but also be my understanding of the steps I need to
take do this from the commandline, e.g.:

$ lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx --works
$ missing step?? -- some step to convert all gifs to something pdflatex
understands


This should be done automatically by LyX.


$ pdflatex mylyxfile.tex -- works, except for the gif


There is no missing step. commandline export should produce identical 
results

to GUI export.

Yes it should but you must note that Export-Pdflatex is different to 
Export-latex followed by running pdflatex on the file.


In the second case the only Export that Lyx is performing is Lyx-tex. This 
will not convert any graphics file formats.


Subsequent running of pdflatex is outside of Lyx and so it will run, find 
the gifs and have problems.


The only way around this is to use a pdflatex compatible image format in the 
first place. THe reason for this is the following:


Within Lyx when you Export-pdflatex it converts the graphics files, then 
does the convert to tex with the new file extensions.  However if you 
Export-tex the output will have the gof extensions and so regardless of 
what you do next pdflatex will still come across gif files unless you edit 
the tex file.


So I recommend you use png or jpg files in the original dicument.

Geoff





Georg


PS: Please always reply to the list

Re: Lyx command line question

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lyx command line question



Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2005 16:09 schrieb Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.):

Georg/Angus,

From within the GUI things work fine. It is just the conversion on the
commandline that does not do the part where the gif file is converted to
some format pdflatex understands. Convert is present on my system.
This could be a bug but also be my understanding of the steps I need to
take do this from the commandline, e.g.:

$ lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx --works
$ missing step?? -- some step to convert all gifs to something pdflatex
understands


This should be done automatically by LyX.


$ pdflatex mylyxfile.tex -- works, except for the gif


There is no missing step. commandline export should produce identical 
results

to GUI export.

Yes it should but you must note that Export-Pdflatex is different to 
Export-latex followed by running pdflatex on the file.


In the second case the only Export that Lyx is performing is Lyx-tex. This 
will not convert any graphics file formats.


Subsequent running of pdflatex is outside of Lyx and so it will run, find 
the gifs and have problems.


The only way around this is to use a pdflatex compatible image format in the 
first place. THe reason for this is the following:


Within Lyx when you Export-pdflatex it converts the graphics files, then 
does the convert to tex with the new file extensions.  However if you 
Export-tex the output will have the gof extensions and so regardless of 
what you do next pdflatex will still come across gif files unless you edit 
the tex file.


So I recommend you use png or jpg files in the original dicument.

Geoff





Georg


PS: Please always reply to the list

Re: Lyx command line question

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Georg Baum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Angus Leeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lyx command line question



Am Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2005 16:09 schrieb Sanders, Maarten (M.J.L.):

Georg/Angus,

From within the GUI things work fine. It is just the conversion on the
commandline that does not do the part where the gif file is converted to
some format pdflatex understands. Convert is present on my system.
This could be a bug but also be my understanding of the steps I need to
take do this from the commandline, e.g.:

$ lyx --export latex mylyxfile.lyx <--works
$ missing step?? <-- some step to convert all gifs to something pdflatex
understands


This should be done automatically by LyX.


$ pdflatex mylyxfile.tex <-- works, except for the gif


There is no missing step. commandline export should produce identical 
results

to GUI export.

Yes it should but you must note that Export->Pdflatex is different to 
Export->latex followed by running pdflatex on the file.


In the second case the only Export that Lyx is performing is Lyx->tex. This 
will not convert any graphics file formats.


Subsequent running of pdflatex is outside of Lyx and so it will run, find 
the gifs and have problems.


The only way around this is to use a pdflatex compatible image format in the 
first place. THe reason for this is the following:


Within Lyx when you Export->pdflatex it converts the graphics files, then 
does the convert to tex with the new file extensions.  However if you 
Export->tex the output will have the gof extensions and so regardless of 
what you do next pdflatex will still come across gif files unless you edit 
the tex file.


So I recommend you use png or jpg files in the original dicument.

Geoff





Georg


PS: Please always reply to the list

Re: Bug ?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Nicolas Ferré [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Bug ?



Dear all, could you please confirm the following bug, found in the
following build of lyx:
LyX 1.3.6 of Sat, Jul 16, 2005
Built on Jul 17 2005, 12:36:17
Configuration
  Host type:  i686-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:aiksaurus use-pspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -g -O2
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (3.4.3)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O
  Linker flags:
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  Packaging:  posix
LyX binary dir:   /usr/local/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/local/share/lyx


In the attached file, there are some math, entered in the following way:
1) type any character ;
2) one step back in the math box (e.g. with the left arrow of the
numerical pad) ;
3) open an exposant or an indice ;
4) without having typed anything in the box, get out of it.

To the right, OK.
To the left, the top or the bottom, lyx crashes with an emergency saving.


I find it is Ok to the right, left and bottom but crashes if I exit Top

Geoff 

Re: Problems with my editor's note environment

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: Problems with my editor's note environment



Hi all,

My editor's not environment has 2 problems:

1. I cannot center the word Editor's Note
2. The line spacing on the last paragraph in this environment is spaced 
much

wider than other paragraphs in the same environment.

Note that the base for my layout file is memoir.

Here's my editor's note environment:

% ### whitebox is basis for StartNote and EndNote ###
% ### Implements 80% width, and indented paragraphs. ###
\newenvironment{whitebox}[0]%
 {%
 \setlength{\widthchange}{-2in}%
 \setlength{\minipagewidth}{\textwidth}%
 \addtolength{\minipagewidth}{\widthchange}%
 \hspace{-0.5\widthchange}%
 \begin{minipage}[]{\minipagewidth}%
 \begin{bfseries}%%
 Editor's Note\\[.2in]%
 \begin{tiny}%%
 \setlength\parindent{16pt}%%
 }%
 {%
 \end{tiny}%
 \end{bfseries}%
 \par
 \end{minipage}%
 ~\\[0.1in]
 }%


If I use

\center{Editor's Note}\\

it centers everything in the minipage -- not just the words Editor's Note. 
Go

figure.


I think this is correct. Everything after center will be centered until you 
tell it to do something else like raggedleft or raggedright


Not sure about the second issue as I couldn't seem to get the environment to 
work? If you could send a lyx file off list to me with it 'working'  I will 
happily fiddle with it for you.


Geoff



I'm sure my mistakes are minor, but I can't find them. Anybody have an 
idea?


Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author:
  * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
  * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
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Re: Bug ?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Nicolas Ferré [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Bug ?



Dear all, could you please confirm the following bug, found in the
following build of lyx:
LyX 1.3.6 of Sat, Jul 16, 2005
Built on Jul 17 2005, 12:36:17
Configuration
  Host type:  i686-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:aiksaurus use-pspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -g -O2
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (3.4.3)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O
  Linker flags:
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  Packaging:  posix
LyX binary dir:   /usr/local/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/local/share/lyx


In the attached file, there are some math, entered in the following way:
1) type any character ;
2) one step back in the math box (e.g. with the left arrow of the
numerical pad) ;
3) open an exposant or an indice ;
4) without having typed anything in the box, get out of it.

To the right, OK.
To the left, the top or the bottom, lyx crashes with an emergency saving.


I find it is Ok to the right, left and bottom but crashes if I exit Top

Geoff 

Re: Problems with my editor's note environment

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Litt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: Problems with my editor's note environment



Hi all,

My editor's not environment has 2 problems:

1. I cannot center the word Editor's Note
2. The line spacing on the last paragraph in this environment is spaced 
much

wider than other paragraphs in the same environment.

Note that the base for my layout file is memoir.

Here's my editor's note environment:

% ### whitebox is basis for StartNote and EndNote ###
% ### Implements 80% width, and indented paragraphs. ###
\newenvironment{whitebox}[0]%
 {%
 \setlength{\widthchange}{-2in}%
 \setlength{\minipagewidth}{\textwidth}%
 \addtolength{\minipagewidth}{\widthchange}%
 \hspace{-0.5\widthchange}%
 \begin{minipage}[]{\minipagewidth}%
 \begin{bfseries}%%
 Editor's Note\\[.2in]%
 \begin{tiny}%%
 \setlength\parindent{16pt}%%
 }%
 {%
 \end{tiny}%
 \end{bfseries}%
 \par
 \end{minipage}%
 ~\\[0.1in]
 }%


If I use

\center{Editor's Note}\\

it centers everything in the minipage -- not just the words Editor's Note. 
Go

figure.


I think this is correct. Everything after center will be centered until you 
tell it to do something else like raggedleft or raggedright


Not sure about the second issue as I couldn't seem to get the environment to 
work? If you could send a lyx file off list to me with it 'working'  I will 
happily fiddle with it for you.


Geoff



I'm sure my mistakes are minor, but I can't find them. Anybody have an 
idea?


Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author:
  * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware
  * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
  * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
Webmaster
  * Troubleshooters.Com
  * http://www.troubleshooters.com

Re: Bug ?

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Nicolas Ferré" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: Bug ?



Dear all, could you please confirm the following bug, found in the
following build of lyx:
LyX 1.3.6 of Sat, Jul 16, 2005
Built on Jul 17 2005, 12:36:17
Configuration
  Host type:  i686-pc-linux-gnu
  Special build flags:aiksaurus use-pspell use-ispell
  C   Compiler:   gcc
  C   Compiler flags: -g -O2
  C++ Compiler:   g++ (3.4.3)
  C++ Compiler flags: -O
  Linker flags:
  Frontend:   qt
Qt version:   3.3.4
  Packaging:  posix
LyX binary dir:   /usr/local/bin
LyX files dir:/usr/local/share/lyx


In the attached file, there are some math, entered in the following way:
1) type any character ;
2) one step back in the math box (e.g. with the left arrow of the
numerical pad) ;
3) open an exposant or an indice ;
4) without having typed anything in the box, get out of it.

To the right, OK.
To the left, the top or the bottom, lyx crashes with an emergency saving.


I find it is Ok to the right, left and bottom but crashes if I exit Top

Geoff 

Re: Problems with my editor's note environment

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Litt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: Problems with my editor's note environment



Hi all,

My editor's not environment has 2 problems:

1. I cannot center the word "Editor's Note"
2. The line spacing on the last paragraph in this environment is spaced 
much

wider than other paragraphs in the same environment.

Note that the base for my layout file is memoir.

Here's my editor's note environment:

% ### whitebox is basis for StartNote and EndNote ###
% ### Implements 80% width, and indented paragraphs. ###
\newenvironment{whitebox}[0]%
 {%
 \setlength{\widthchange}{-2in}%
 \setlength{\minipagewidth}{\textwidth}%
 \addtolength{\minipagewidth}{\widthchange}%
 \hspace{-0.5\widthchange}%
 \begin{minipage}[]{\minipagewidth}%
 \begin{bfseries}%%
 Editor's Note\\[.2in]%
 \begin{tiny}%%
 \setlength\parindent{16pt}%%
 }%
 {%
 \end{tiny}%
 \end{bfseries}%
 \par
 \end{minipage}%
 ~\\[0.1in]
 }%


If I use

\center{Editor's Note}\\

it centers everything in the minipage -- not just the words Editor's Note. 
Go

figure.


I think this is correct. Everything after center will be centered until you 
tell it to do something else like raggedleft or raggedright


Not sure about the second issue as I couldn't seem to get the environment to 
work? If you could send a lyx file off list to me with it 'working'  I will 
happily fiddle with it for you.


Geoff



I'm sure my mistakes are minor, but I can't find them. Anybody have an 
idea?


Thanks

SteveT

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Re: More about foreign languages - No!

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Lyx1.3.6 you simply need to go to Layout-Document-Language

I dont have Edit-Text style either. Really it works if you do above..

Geoff
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Lyx Contribute lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: More about foreign languages - No!



   Oh my!

   Maybe this is the problem: I don't have at my Lyx
a manu called 'Edit-Text Style'! Which Lyx version is
yours?

---
What you in fact need to do is ensure that any of
the items that are in the wrong language. Select
everything that needs to be in Portueguese and go to
Edit  Text Style. Choose the correct language from the
Language drop box.
---


Abraços!
Douglas










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Re: More about foreign languages - No!

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Lyx1.3.6 you simply need to go to Layout-Document-Language

I dont have Edit-Text style either. Really it works if you do above..

Geoff
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Lyx Contribute lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: More about foreign languages - No!



   Oh my!

   Maybe this is the problem: I don't have at my Lyx
a manu called 'Edit-Text Style'! Which Lyx version is
yours?

---
What you in fact need to do is ensure that any of
the items that are in the wrong language. Select
everything that needs to be in Portueguese and go to
Edit  Text Style. Choose the correct language from the
Language drop box.
---


Abraços!
Douglas










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Re: More about foreign languages - No!

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

On Lyx1.3.6 you simply need to go to Layout->Document->Language

I dont have Edit->Text style either. Really it works if you do above..

Geoff
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Lyx Contribute" 
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: More about foreign languages - No!



   Oh my!

   Maybe this is the problem: I don't have at my Lyx
a manu called 'Edit->Text Style'! Which Lyx version is
yours?

---
What you in fact need to do is ensure that any of
the items that are in the wrong language. Select
everything that needs to be in Portueguese and go to
Edit  Text Style. Choose the correct language from the
Language drop box.
---


Abraços!
Douglas










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Re: pdflatex MacOS X

[Geoffrey Lloyd]

David and Bennett

I too have problems when I try an view or export you file with pdflatex - I 
am using winXP


I have had a fiddle about and find the following interesting although have 
no idea what t means or how to fix it!!


I called the original lyx document test1.lyx and the file to be included 
test2.pdf


Export-Latex on test1.lyx produces test1true.tex (as i have remnamed it)
Export-pdflatex produces test1.tex

These two files differ slightly (why i do not know - surley lyx should 
produce the same .tex file in the lyx-tex step**see below) but importantly 
they both compile correctl with pdflatex in the command window.


But Export-pdflatex also produces test1.tex.dep-pdf

I have no idea what this file is used for but you will see there are two 
columns of numbers on the left. For test2.pdf the second value is zero. This 
is not good. And maybe this is the source of the problem.


**
What I dont understand is why lyx doesnt simply generate the tex and then 
run pdflatex. Doing this by hand produces the correct result. What is it 
that lyx is doing differently to do this conversion?


Geoff
- Original Message - 
From: David Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Geoffrey Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bennett Helm 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: pdflatex  MacOS X


the maximally simple example.  Thanks, D


test1.lyx
Description: application/lyx


test2.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


test1true.tex
Description: Binary data


test1.tex
Description: Binary data


test1.tex.dep-pdf
Description: Binary data