[MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) — The average price of gasoline has dropped 11 cents
over the past two weeks to $2.71 a gallon.

Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg said Sunday that the current average sits
81 cents below the year-ago price.

The cheapest price recorded in the continental United States was $2.19 a
gallon in Charleston, South Carolina.

The highest was $3.80 a gallon in Los Angeles. California saw a 21-cent
price drop over the past two weeks — following a huge spike caused by a
brief supply shortage. Lundberg says supplies are flowing again and pump
prices are poised to drop further in the Golden State.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. "food processor"?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yes to what AS said.

Try coconut milk in your next batch of ice cream.

--R



On 8/9/15 9:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, a Cuisinart makes short work of pesto.

Made blueberry "ice cream" from almond milk, frozen blues, sugar, vanilla,
and ice cubes.  Took less than a minute in the Blendtec and it was smooth
and surprisingly tasty (although next time I will halve the sugar). The
vanilla compensated for the non-dairy aspect to give the illusion of dairy
creaminess.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


So, we have only ever had a blender. We are now growing enough basil to
make several batches of pesto. The blender does a lousy job of chopping and
mixing the thick goop. The cook book calls for a food processor, but they
look like a wide version of a blender, so we've never purchased one. Would
a food processor work for making pesto? (I'm too old to do it the authentic
way, with the mortar and pestle, now that I've done it that way once).

--
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is 10cents 
cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they are closer to 
the pipeline or something.


Reminds me I need to go to Costco today to fill up the truck...

--R



On 8/10/15 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) — The average price of gasoline has dropped 11 cents
over the past two weeks to $2.71 a gallon.

Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg said Sunday that the current average sits
81 cents below the year-ago price.

The cheapest price recorded in the continental United States was $2.19 a
gallon in Charleston, South Carolina.

The highest was $3.80 a gallon in Los Angeles. California saw a 21-cent
price drop over the past two weeks — following a huge spike caused by a
brief supply shortage. Lundberg says supplies are flowing again and pump
prices are poised to drop further in the Golden State.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. "food processor"?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Coconut milk would be quite rich.  I was thinking regular milk, perhaps
with some half and half thrown in.  I also probably overblended - went past
the point when the mixture "gelled" to a solid, causing it to then relapse
to a smoothie/slushie texture.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes to what AS said.
>
> Try coconut milk in your next batch of ice cream.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/9/15 9:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Yeah, a Cuisinart makes short work of pesto.
>>
>> Made blueberry "ice cream" from almond milk, frozen blues, sugar, vanilla,
>> and ice cubes.  Took less than a minute in the Blendtec and it was smooth
>> and surprisingly tasty (although next time I will halve the sugar). The
>> vanilla compensated for the non-dairy aspect to give the illusion of dairy
>> creaminess.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So, we have only ever had a blender. We are now growing enough basil to
>>> make several batches of pesto. The blender does a lousy job of chopping
>>> and
>>> mixing the thick goop. The cook book calls for a food processor, but they
>>> look like a wide version of a blender, so we've never purchased one.
>>> Would
>>> a food processor work for making pesto? (I'm too old to do it the
>>> authentic
>>> way, with the mortar and pestle, now that I've done it that way once).
>>>
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>>
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>>> of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>>
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>>
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Check out the price of propane and give us a debriefing.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is 10cents
> cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they are closer to the
> pipeline or something.
>
> Reminds me I need to go to Costco today to fill up the truck...
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 8/10/15 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) — The average price of gasoline has dropped 11
>> cents
>> over the past two weeks to $2.71 a gallon.
>>
>> Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg said Sunday that the current average sits
>> 81 cents below the year-ago price.
>>
>> The cheapest price recorded in the continental United States was $2.19 a
>> gallon in Charleston, South Carolina.
>>
>> The highest was $3.80 a gallon in Los Angeles. California saw a 21-cent
>> price drop over the past two weeks — following a huge spike caused by a
>> brief supply shortage. Lundberg says supplies are flowing again and pump
>> prices are poised to drop further in the Golden State.
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I get my small tanks refilled at Tractor Supply, which I have not had to 
do for awhile, and my big tank for the cooktop comes from the local 
supplier. who provides equal measure of customer abuse in the process, 
for free.


I saw in the Costco magazine that they are starting to put dizzel pumps 
in at some stations.


--R

On 8/10/15 9:18 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Check out the price of propane and give us a debriefing.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is
10cents cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they
are closer to the pipeline or something.

Reminds me I need to go to Costco today to fill up the truck...

--R




On 8/10/15 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) — The average price of gasoline has
dropped 11 cents
over the past two weeks to $2.71 a gallon.

Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg said Sunday that the current
average sits
81 cents below the year-ago price.

The cheapest price recorded in the continental United States
was $2.19 a
gallon in Charleston, South Carolina.

The highest was $3.80 a gallon in Los Angeles. California saw
a 21-cent
price drop over the past two weeks — following a huge spike
caused by a
brief supply shortage. Lundberg says supplies are flowing
again and pump
prices are poised to drop further in the Golden State.
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is 
10cents cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they are 
closer to the pipeline or something.


Reminds me I need to go to Costco today to fill up the truck...

--R



2.57 Benzin
2.54 Diesel here.

Still waiting for these 15 and 20 cent drops that were supposed to 
happen.  Still better than the 5 buck days of 2008


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Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. "food processor"?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

My buddy finished his baking courses at the local CC and is now into the 
ice cream phase.  He brought me a sample of his recent homework, it is 
like a big ice cream ball thing with avocado/lime/coconutmilk (you put 
de lime in de coconut drink it all up) in the middle and mango something 
on the outside which is made with cream.  The avocado lime coconut is 
very light and refreshing, almost like a sorbet but a bit more heft to 
it.  You can't really taste the avocado but it also gives some fat and 
thickness to the blend, and the green color.  He put a crust on it of 
roasted hazelnuts and chocolate bits.  it is quite awesome.


I look forward to grading more homework assignments.  When this class is 
over he starts bread.


--R

On 8/10/15 9:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Coconut milk would be quite rich.  I was thinking regular milk, 
perhaps with some half and half thrown in.  I also probably 
overblended - went past the point when the mixture "gelled" to a 
solid, causing it to then relapse to a smoothie/slushie texture.


On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Yes to what AS said.

Try coconut milk in your next batch of ice cream.

--R



On 8/9/15 9:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, a Cuisinart makes short work of pesto.

Made blueberry "ice cream" from almond milk, frozen blues,
sugar, vanilla,
and ice cubes.  Took less than a minute in the Blendtec and it
was smooth
and surprisingly tasty (although next time I will halve the
sugar). The
vanilla compensated for the non-dairy aspect to give the
illusion of dairy
creaminess.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
wrote:

So, we have only ever had a blender. We are now growing
enough basil to
make several batches of pesto. The blender does a lousy
job of chopping and
mixing the thick goop. The cook book calls for a food
processor, but they
look like a wide version of a blender, so we've never
purchased one. Would
a food processor work for making pesto? (I'm too old to do
it the authentic
way, with the mortar and pestle, now that I've done it
that way once).

--
OK Don

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reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

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It's cheaper than $2.19 here.

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) — The average price of gasoline has dropped 11 cents
> over the past two weeks to $2.71 a gallon.
> 
> Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg said Sunday that the current average sits
> 81 cents below the year-ago price.
> 
> The cheapest price recorded in the continental United States was $2.19 a
> gallon in Charleston, South Carolina.
> 
> The highest was $3.80 a gallon in Los Angeles. California saw a 21-cent
> price drop over the past two weeks — following a huge spike caused by a
> brief supply shortage. Lundberg says supplies are flowing again and pump
> prices are poised to drop further in the Golden State.
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Check out the price of propane and give us a debriefing.


http://www.barchart.com/charts/futures/PNY00

Local prices are $20 for an exchange tank  $50 for a tank with no exchange.

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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[WILTON via Mercedes]

$16.89 for exchange 20# bottle at Wal-Mart coupla days ago.

Wilton

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Check out the price of propane and give us a debriefing.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


There might be some place around with $2.19 but usually it is 10cents
cheaper upstate for some reasons never clear, maybe they are closer to 
the

pipeline or something.

Reminds me I need to go to Costco today to fill up the truck...

--R




On 8/10/15 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


CAMARILLO, Calif. (AP) — The average price of gasoline has dropped 11
cents
over the past two weeks to $2.71 a gallon.

Industry analyst Trilby Lundberg said Sunday that the current average 
sits

81 cents below the year-ago price.

The cheapest price recorded in the continental United States was $2.19 a
gallon in Charleston, South Carolina.

The highest was $3.80 a gallon in Los Angeles. California saw a 21-cent
price drop over the past two weeks — following a huge spike caused by a
brief supply shortage. Lundberg says supplies are flowing again and pump
prices are poised to drop further in the Golden State.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. "food processor"?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Observe what it does to your waistline as well. ;)

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My buddy finished his baking courses at the local CC and is now into the
> ice cream phase.  He brought me a sample of his recent homework, it is like
> a big ice cream ball thing with avocado/lime/coconutmilk (you put de lime
> in de coconut drink it all up) in the middle and mango something on the
> outside which is made with cream.  The avocado lime coconut is very light
> and refreshing, almost like a sorbet but a bit more heft to it.  You can't
> really taste the avocado but it also gives some fat and thickness to the
> blend, and the green color.  He put a crust on it of roasted hazelnuts and
> chocolate bits.  it is quite awesome.
>
> I look forward to grading more homework assignments.  When this class is
> over he starts bread.
>
> --R
>
> On 8/10/15 9:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Coconut milk would be quite rich.  I was thinking regular milk, perhaps
>> with some half and half thrown in.  I also probably overblended - went past
>> the point when the mixture "gelled" to a solid, causing it to then relapse
>> to a smoothie/slushie texture.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Yes to what AS said.
>>
>> Try coconut milk in your next batch of ice cream.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/9/15 9:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, a Cuisinart makes short work of pesto.
>>
>> Made blueberry "ice cream" from almond milk, frozen blues,
>> sugar, vanilla,
>> and ice cubes.  Took less than a minute in the Blendtec and it
>> was smooth
>> and surprisingly tasty (although next time I will halve the
>> sugar). The
>> vanilla compensated for the non-dairy aspect to give the
>> illusion of dairy
>> creaminess.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So, we have only ever had a blender. We are now growing
>> enough basil to
>> make several batches of pesto. The blender does a lousy
>> job of chopping and
>> mixing the thick goop. The cook book calls for a food
>> processor, but they
>> look like a wide version of a blender, so we've never
>> purchased one. Would
>> a food processor work for making pesto? (I'm too old to do
>> it the authentic
>> way, with the mortar and pestle, now that I've done it
>> that way once).
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens
>> to US citizens!
>>
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>> narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by
>> reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
>> electric fence
>> for themselves."
>>
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>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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[MBZ] MAF-less

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Does anyone know if our cars, in my case the M119 engine, will run without the 
MAF?

Granted, I would expect it to run poorly, but I was wondering as I continue to 
part out the S500.

FWIW, I've sold almost $1000 worth of parts and have maybe $500 more currently 
on eBay. And that doesn't include the $270 I will get at the scrapper for the 
two catalytic converters or the scrap value of the car when I'm done, maybe 
$100-$150.

Just factoring purchase cost and nothing more, I might end up breaking even on 
this car when it's all said and done!

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

MAF?  Modified anemometer fluid?

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if our cars, in my case the M119 engine, will run without
> the MAF?
>
> Granted, I would expect it to run poorly, but I was wondering as I
> continue to part out the S500.
>
> FWIW, I've sold almost $1000 worth of parts and have maybe $500 more
> currently on eBay. And that doesn't include the $270 I will get at the
> scrapper for the two catalytic converters or the scrap value of the car
> when I'm done, maybe $100-$150.
>
> Just factoring purchase cost and nothing more, I might end up breaking
> even on this car when it's all said and done!
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Our '96 Infiniti ran with the MAF disconnected, so probably.  Computer no 
longer has air flow info so it uses a default map to determine fuel injection 
amount based on RPM and maybe other data.

Mass Air Flow?
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the proceeds.  
This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mass airflow sensor. The resistive element (PTC) just below the air cleaner 
that reports on the volume of air entering the engine.

Dan

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> 
> MAF?  Modified anemometer fluid?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Does anyone know if our cars, in my case the M119 engine, will run without
>> the MAF?
>> 
>> Granted, I would expect it to run poorly, but I was wondering as I
>> continue to part out the S500.
>> 
>> FWIW, I've sold almost $1000 worth of parts and have maybe $500 more
>> currently on eBay. And that doesn't include the $270 I will get at the
>> scrapper for the two catalytic converters or the scrap value of the car
>> when I'm done, maybe $100-$150.
>> 
>> Just factoring purchase cost and nothing more, I might end up breaking
>> even on this car when it's all said and done!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper 
permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around 
somewhere too.


--R



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I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the proceeds.  
This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?



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[MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Anyone using ceramic pads on a W123?

Jon



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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That's what I was thinking, that it would fall back to a predetermined setting 
and just run poorly.

Dan

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Our '96 Infiniti ran with the MAF disconnected, so probably.  Computer no 
> longer has air flow info so it uses a default map to determine fuel injection 
> amount based on RPM and maybe other data.
> 
> Mass Air Flow?
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Beats me.

All I know is that almost immediately after I posted on the local CL that the 
car was being parted I started getting offers for the cats for like $60. The 
activity made me realize they must be a hot commodity, so I checked with some 
local scrap metal people.

Mine are considered "large import" cats and are selling for around $135 each at 
the local scrapyards.

One guy kept emailing me with increasing offers. When he got up to $100, I told 
him I would take the going rate for them, $135/each.

Haven't heard from him since.

Dan

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> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the proceeds. 
>  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I 
scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's license to 
scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license plate.

Dan

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper 
> permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around 
> somewhere too.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the 
>> proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Good.  Easier to track a thief.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less


Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I 
scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's 
license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license 
plate.


Dan

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On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper 
permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around 
somewhere too.


--R




On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the 
proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's 
worth?



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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I've got the permit, but when I asked last summer, was told they are illegal to 
buy or sell in this state.
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'95 E300

On August 10, 2015 1:23:31 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a
>scrapper 
>permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around 
>somewhere too.
>
>--R
>
>
>
>On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the
>proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's
>worth?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Not a 123, but a 124 and an Infiniti.  Superior in every way.  Just ordered a 
set for my 124 wagon to replace the OEM pads, about $45 for the front set with 
free shipping on Amazon.
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On August 10, 2015 1:21:11 PM EDT, Jon Agne via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Anyone using ceramic pads on a W123?
>
>Jon
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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also put 
Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they are.Other than a 
lack of brake dust I never saw anything so terrific about them. They stopped 
good but they didn't seem to last any better than anything else. The last time 
I changed the pads on the 190D I put Pagid which were half the price though 
still twice the price of the squeeky pads Car Quest sold me.
-Curt
  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Max Dillon  
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads
   
Not a 123, but a 124 and an Infiniti.  Superior in every way.  Just ordered a 
set for my 124 wagon to replace the OEM pads, about $45 for the front set with 
free shipping on Amazon.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 10, 2015 1:21:11 PM EDT, Jon Agne via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Anyone using ceramic pads on a W123?
>
>Jon
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

$2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium  What's that about?

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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The 1% who have high-end cars that burn premium should pay more?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> $2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium  What's that about?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Luxury  tax.

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> $2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium  What's that about?
>
> --R
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[MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is one of those "why didn't I think of it" innovations. You can invest
when they open the Kickstarter campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was kidding.  Don't want to hurt their feelings.  They are already the
most persecuted group in America.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The 1% who have high-end cars that burn premium should pay more?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > $2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium  What's that
> about?
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Not in SC, there is no luxury.

I noticed one dizzel station that was $2.57 too, did not look at other 
places.


--R



On 8/10/15 4:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Luxury  tax.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


$2.00.9 for regulah at Costco, $2.57.9 for premium  What's
that about?

--R



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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 10, 2015 at 4:22 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1


6mph is slow, but a two hour runtime is pretty amazing. 

I can remember Honda sponsoring a sort of science fair
20-30 years ago and one of the winners was a kid who
built a gas engine go-kart into a hard shell suitcase. 
You unfolded the case and locked it open, put your butt
in one half of the shell and your feet in the other...

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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And 12KM would take me all the way downtown.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On August 10, 2015 at 4:22 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > 
> >
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
>
>
> 6mph is slow, but a two hour runtime is pretty amazing.
>
> I can remember Honda sponsoring a sort of science fair
> 20-30 years ago and one of the winners was a kid who
> built a gas engine go-kart into a hard shell suitcase.
> You unfolded the case and locked it open, put your butt
> in one half of the shell and your feet in the other...
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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also 
put Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they 
are.Other than a lack of brake dust I never saw anything so terrific 
about them. They stopped good but they didn't seem to last any 
better than anything else. The last time I changed the pads on the 
190D I put Pagid which were half the price though still twice the 
price of the squeeky pads Car Quest sold me.

-Curt
  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Max Dillon 
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads
  
Not a 123, but a 124 and an Infiniti.  Superior in every way.  Just 
ordered a set for my 124 wagon to replace the OEM pads, about $45 
for the front set with free shipping on Amazon.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300



Curt brings up a good point.  The harder the pads (ceramic) the more 
likely they are to squeal, AND the more they wear your rotors.


I can get 200 to 300k out of rotors with the cheap (dusty) pads.  it 
is easy to change pads and cheap, it is harder and expensive to 
change rotors.


Ceramic pads DO have to be broken in properly to work properly and 
also to not warp your rotors.


The ceramic pads of the dogde and the rotors needed to be changed at 
a little over 100k.  Mucho dinero$$$


I've never had to buy rotors for my Mercedes with the "organic" or 
asbestos pads.


I see no advantage, unless you have a show car and the dust is a 
significant factor.  I see several DISadvantages to ceramic.


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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Are the organic pads still using asbestos?!

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also put 
>> Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they are.Other than 
>> a lack of brake dust I never saw anything so terrific about them. They 
>> stopped good but they didn't seem to last any better than anything else. The 
>> last time I changed the pads on the 190D I put Pagid which were half the 
>> price though still twice the price of the squeeky pads Car Quest sold me.
>> -Curt
>>  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads
>>  Not a 123, but a 124 and an Infiniti.  Superior in every way.  Just ordered 
>> a set for my 124 wagon to replace the OEM pads, about $45 for the front set 
>> with free shipping on Amazon.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
> 
> 
> Curt brings up a good point.  The harder the pads (ceramic) the more likely 
> they are to squeal, AND the more they wear your rotors.
> 
> I can get 200 to 300k out of rotors with the cheap (dusty) pads.  it is easy 
> to change pads and cheap, it is harder and expensive to change rotors.
> 
> Ceramic pads DO have to be broken in properly to work properly and also to 
> not warp your rotors.
> 
> The ceramic pads of the dogde and the rotors needed to be changed at a little 
> over 100k.  Mucho dinero$$$
> 
> I've never had to buy rotors for my Mercedes with the "organic" or asbestos 
> pads.
> 
> I see no advantage, unless you have a show car and the dust is a significant 
> factor.  I see several DISadvantages to ceramic.
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I saw diesel for $1.35 in North Chuck.  Right off 526 on Rivers.
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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Correction, the squealing pads were conventional Car Quest "red" which were 
supposed to be their better pads...I didn't notice any lower rotor life using 
ceramic, here the rotors lots of times rot out from rust put there with road 
salt...
-Curt
  From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads
   





>I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also 
>put Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they 
>are.Other than a lack of brake dust I never saw anything so terrific 
>about them. They stopped good but they didn't seem to last any 
>better than anything else. The last time I changed the pads on the 
>190D I put Pagid which were half the price though still twice the 
>price of the squeeky pads Car Quest sold me.
>-Curt
>      From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Cc: Max Dillon 
>  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:10 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads
>  
>Not a 123, but a 124 and an Infiniti.  Superior in every way.  Just 
>ordered a set for my 124 wagon to replace the OEM pads, about $45 
>for the front set with free shipping on Amazon.
>--
>Max Dillon
>Charleston SC
>'87 300TD
>'95 E300


Curt brings up a good point.  The harder the pads (ceramic) the more 
likely they are to squeal, AND the more they wear your rotors.

I can get 200 to 300k out of rotors with the cheap (dusty) pads.  it 
is easy to change pads and cheap, it is harder and expensive to 
change rotors.

Ceramic pads DO have to be broken in properly to work properly and 
also to not warp your rotors.

The ceramic pads of the dogde and the rotors needed to be changed at 
a little over 100k.  Mucho dinero$$$

I've never had to buy rotors for my Mercedes with the "organic" or 
asbestos pads.

I see no advantage, unless you have a show car and the dust is a 
significant factor.  I see several DISadvantages to ceramic.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Apparently it still is to some extent. I'd expect it probably in the cheapest 
pads. I'm surprised it hasn't been banned...
IIRC I've seen the boxes pads come in marked asbestos free.
-Curt
  From: Dimitri via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Dimitri  
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads
   
Are the organic pads still using asbestos?!

Sent from my iPhone



> On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I did them on a 201, some kind of random brand Rusty sent me. I also put 
>> Akebonos on my Ranger after everybody told me how great they are.Other than 
>> a lack of brake dust I never saw anything so terrific about them. They 
>> stopped good but they didn't seem to last any better than anything else. The 
>> last time I changed the pads on the 190D I put Pagid which were half the 
>> price though still twice the price of the squeeky pads Car Quest sold me.
>> -Curt
>>      From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Max Dillon 
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 3:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads
>>  Not a 123, but a 124 and an Infiniti.  Superior in every way.  Just ordered 
>>a set for my 124 wagon to replace the OEM pads, about $45 for the front set 
>>with free shipping on Amazon.
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
> 
> 
> Curt brings up a good point.  The harder the pads (ceramic) the more likely 
> they are to squeal, AND the more they wear your rotors.
> 
> I can get 200 to 300k out of rotors with the cheap (dusty) pads.  it is easy 
> to change pads and cheap, it is harder and expensive to change rotors.
> 
> Ceramic pads DO have to be broken in properly to work properly and also to 
> not warp your rotors.
> 
> The ceramic pads of the dogde and the rotors needed to be changed at a little 
> over 100k.  Mucho dinero$$$
> 
> I've never had to buy rotors for my Mercedes with the "organic" or asbestos 
> pads.
> 
> I see no advantage, unless you have a show car and the dust is a significant 
> factor.  I see several DISadvantages to ceramic.
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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Correction: $2.35
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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan DO NOT DRINK THE WATER

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On the same site as the car in a bag.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/energy-environment/epa-3-million-gallons-of-waste-water-spilled-in-colo-river/2015/08/10/e138076a-3f71-11e5-b2c4-af4c6183b8b4_video.html

RB


On 10/08/2015 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

This is one of those "why didn't I think of it" innovations. You can invest
when they open the Kickstarter campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Are the organic pads still using asbestos?!

Sent from my iPhone

 >


Not for 30-40 years.

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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I filled up for 2.38 this afternoon, about 40 miles south.



Correction: $2.35
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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[WILTON via Mercedes]

My great concern is the ability of those small wheels to negotiate rough 
surfaces.


Wilt

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From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:22 PM
Subject: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan


This is one of those "why didn't I think of it" innovations. You can 
invest

when they open the Kickstarter campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

And deep snow.

RB


On 10/08/2015 4:59 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
My great concern is the ability of those small wheels to negotiate 
rough surfaces.


Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:22 PM
Subject: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan


This is one of those "why didn't I think of it" innovations. You can 
invest

when they open the Kickstarter campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - blender vs. "food processor"?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I actually try to avoid ice cream, mostly, but now my homebrews' effects...

--R



On 8/10/15 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Observe what it does to your waistline as well. ;)

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


My buddy finished his baking courses at the local CC and is now
into the ice cream phase.  He brought me a sample of his recent
homework, it is like a big ice cream ball thing with
avocado/lime/coconutmilk (you put de lime in de coconut drink it
all up) in the middle and mango something on the outside which is
made with cream.  The avocado lime coconut is very light and
refreshing, almost like a sorbet but a bit more heft to it.  You
can't really taste the avocado but it also gives some fat and
thickness to the blend, and the green color.  He put a crust on it
of roasted hazelnuts and chocolate bits.  it is quite awesome.

I look forward to grading more homework assignments.  When this
class is over he starts bread.

--R

On 8/10/15 9:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Coconut milk would be quite rich.  I was thinking regular
milk, perhaps with some half and half thrown in.  I also
probably overblended - went past the point when the mixture
"gelled" to a solid, causing it to then relapse to a
smoothie/slushie texture.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>
wrote:

Yes to what AS said.

Try coconut milk in your next batch of ice cream.

--R



On 8/9/15 9:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, a Cuisinart makes short work of pesto.

Made blueberry "ice cream" from almond milk, frozen blues,
sugar, vanilla,
and ice cubes.  Took less than a minute in the
Blendtec and it
was smooth
and surprisingly tasty (although next time I will
halve the
sugar). The
vanilla compensated for the non-dairy aspect to give the
illusion of dairy
creaminess.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>
wrote:

So, we have only ever had a blender. We are now
growing
enough basil to
make several batches of pesto. The blender does a
lousy
job of chopping and
mixing the thick goop. The cook book calls for a food
processor, but they
look like a wide version of a blender, so we've never
purchased one. Would
a food processor work for making pesto? (I'm too
old to do
it the authentic
way, with the mortar and pestle, now that I've done it
that way once).

--
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I saw a guy riding an electric 3-wheeler this afternoon that had maybe 
20" bicycle wheels.  I presume the motors require a lot more torque but 
I always wondered why most of those things only have like 6" wheels on 
them, if that big.  Seems like they would really be bad at negotiating 
anything more challenging than a walmart.


--R



On 8/10/15 5:59 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
My great concern is the ability of those small wheels to negotiate 
rough surfaces.


Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:22 PM
Subject: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan


This is one of those "why didn't I think of it" innovations. You can 
invest

when they open the Kickstarter campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1 


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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think the ceramic pads come already "set" by a baking process, read that over 
the weekend on one of the makers websites.  Not sure if Akebono are same, I 
don't remember any special process when I installed them a few years ago.

Just paid $45, I think OE from MB run about $70 or more.
-- 
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Zackly.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan


I saw a guy riding an electric 3-wheeler this afternoon that had maybe 20" 
bicycle wheels.  I presume the motors require a lot more torque but I 
always wondered why most of those things only have like 6" wheels on them, 
if that big.  Seems like they would really be bad at negotiating anything 
more challenging than a walmart.


--R



On 8/10/15 5:59 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
My great concern is the ability of those small wheels to negotiate rough 
surfaces.


Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:22 PM
Subject: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan


This is one of those "why didn't I think of it" innovations. You can 
invest

when they open the Kickstarter campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/japanese-engineer-develops-worlds-first-car-in-a-bag/2015/08/07/a9a901ce-3cf0-11e5-a312-1a6452ac77d2_video.html?wpisrc=nl_tech&wpmm=1
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[MBZ] AMC tv Rubicon 2010

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curly (OT: And the winner is:) wrote:
> ...watching tv is all I'm interested in...

Rubicon was a show I watched 5-years ago.  It seemed a bit complex but
it got disappeared before it's season ended... I think.

Did anyone else watch Rubicon?  AmazonTV carried it for a while.  If
anyone has copy of the episodes or has a link to see them - may I
borrow a DVD from you? - so I can watch again?

See episode summaries:

http://www.amc.com/search?q=rubicon+episodes

White Collar is another rather complex show that I liked at hulu.
Rubicon seemed to be a bit more suggestive of national conspiracy.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[MG via Mercedes]

Yep, Akebono on two sedans and a TD. Love them!

Manfred


Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:21:11 -0400
From: Jon Agne 


Anyone using ceramic pads on a W123?

Jon

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Re: [MBZ] "Car in a bag" - from Japan

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

All these caveats as to why this or that won't work.
Take OKDon perspective mentioned in the thread about airplane car.
Not all things are for all uses.  It might be nice to have a
single-purpose car instead of an all-purpose car.  We are a wealthy
lot, we can afford multiple vehicles.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:23:56 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Correction: $2.35

We have a local supermarket here, Smith's, part of Kroger, that gives you
fuel points when you buy things, extra points for prescriptions at their
pharmacy, points when you bring your own bags, etc. You can get $0.10 off
per gallon for 100 points, up to a maximum of $1.00 off for 35 gallons.
That will make diesel $1.59/gallon. Since we have just over 2000 points
for last month and our truck needs diesel ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Lowest gas prices in the USA

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Here we have two grocer chains, one (Bi-Lo) does the points similar what you 
describe, another (Harris Teeter) sells gas station gift cards at 20% off, one 
fifty dollar card for every fifty dollars in groceries.  Shell stations accept 
both the discount points card from the first chain and the gift cards, so you 
can double dip and get quite a nice discount.  We don't shop much at Bi-Lo, so 
I'm lucky if I get five or ten cents off from that card, but every little bit 
helps.
-- 
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 10, 2015 7:59:58 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:23:56 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> Correction: $2.35
>
>We have a local supermarket here, Smith's, part of Kroger, that gives
>you
>fuel points when you buy things, extra points for prescriptions at
>their
>pharmacy, points when you bring your own bags, etc. You can get $0.10
>off
>per gallon for 100 points, up to a maximum of $1.00 off for 35 gallons.
>That will make diesel $1.59/gallon. Since we have just over 2000 points
>for last month and our truck needs diesel ...
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

In theory only.  In reality, the data is rarely collected for true hot
stuff, like stolen AC condenser.  A couple years back a BBQ cooker was
stolen from out church.  These cost about $5K; they are basically a big
stainless steel "grill" with electric heaters which hold 2-3 whole pigs.
This item was later found at a local scrap yard in "trashed" condition but
somehow the paperwork didn't show who sold it to the scrapper.  Like gun
laws, this is a nuisance for honest people and no problem for folks with
criminal intent.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> WILTON via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:45 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: WILTON 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less
> 
> Good.  Easier to track a thief.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less
> 
> 
> > Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I
> > scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's
> > license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license
> > plate.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a
scrapper
> >> permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around
> >> somewhere too.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the
> >>> proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's
> >>> worth?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You need to find a redneck scrapper. Chuckie and I scrapped my '85 190D and I 
forgot to take the title. "Your car?" the guy asked. "Yup" I replied. "No 
problem" he sez.
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I 
scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's license to 
scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license plate.

Dan

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper 
> permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around 
> somewhere too.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the 
>> proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[G Mann via Mercedes]

2 years ago, I had 5 cars stolen from storage. They were all waiting
restoration and none ran, so most likely they all were sold for scrap,
based on other things that were stolen in the robbery..

To date.. despite having clear title to each vehicle, cops have found no
junkyard that will own up to taking them in, despite a state law that
requires them to record VIN numbers and have title in hand.

Yeah.. in a perfect world..

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You need to find a redneck scrapper. Chuckie and I scrapped my '85 190D
> and I forgot to take the title. "Your car?" the guy asked. "Yup" I replied.
> "No problem" he sez.
> -Curt
>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less
>
> Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I
> scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's
> license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license plate.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper
> permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around
> somewhere too.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the
> proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Here I pull up, they pull car off trailer with big fork lift, weigh the car, 
and the guy pulls a huge roll of $100 bills out of his pocket and peels me off 
a few.

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 2 years ago, I had 5 cars stolen from storage. They were all waiting
> restoration and none ran, so most likely they all were sold for scrap,
> based on other things that were stolen in the robbery..
> 
> To date.. despite having clear title to each vehicle, cops have found no
> junkyard that will own up to taking them in, despite a state law that
> requires them to record VIN numbers and have title in hand.
> 
> Yeah.. in a perfect world..
> 
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You need to find a redneck scrapper. Chuckie and I scrapped my '85 190D
>> and I forgot to take the title. "Your car?" the guy asked. "Yup" I replied.
>> "No problem" he sez.
>> -Curt
>>  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less
>> 
>> Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I
>> scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's
>> license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license plate.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper
>> permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around
>> somewhere too.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the
>> proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They’re pretty retentive about selling scrap metals down here, although I can’t 
vouch for how successful that is.

The issue for years were people stealing AC condensers, as they would just go 
up to them, take some insulated cutters and just sever the power and 
refrigerant lines and toss them in the back of a truck.

It got to the point where the major recyclers would only take AC units from 
commercial AC places they had been dealing with.

Can’t address the car thing, as I haven’t dealt with those folks, but I will be 
shortly.  Certainly no shortage of places that “Pay Top Dollar”  for your junk 
or wrecked cars down here, that’s for sure.

Dan







> On Aug 10, 2015, at 9:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 2 years ago, I had 5 cars stolen from storage. They were all waiting
> restoration and none ran, so most likely they all were sold for scrap,
> based on other things that were stolen in the robbery..
> 
> To date.. despite having clear title to each vehicle, cops have found no
> junkyard that will own up to taking them in, despite a state law that
> requires them to record VIN numbers and have title in hand.
> 
> Yeah.. in a perfect world..
> 
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You need to find a redneck scrapper. Chuckie and I scrapped my '85 190D
>> and I forgot to take the title. "Your car?" the guy asked. "Yup" I replied.
>> "No problem" he sez.
>> -Curt
>>  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less
>> 
>> Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I
>> scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's
>> license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license plate.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a scrapper
>> permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around
>> somewhere too.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the
>> proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's worth?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

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Wow. Where was that? Storage places here are hard to get into. That's a
real loss.

On Aug 10, 2015 9:29 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>
> 2 years ago, I had 5 cars stolen from storage. They were all waiting
> restoration and none ran, so most likely they all were sold for scrap,
> based on other things that were stolen in the robbery..
>
> To date.. despite having clear title to each vehicle, cops have found no
> junkyard that will own up to taking them in, despite a state law that
> requires them to record VIN numbers and have title in hand.
>
> Yeah.. in a perfect world..
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > You need to find a redneck scrapper. Chuckie and I scrapped my '85 190D
> > and I forgot to take the title. "Your car?" the guy asked. "Yup" I
replied.
> > "No problem" he sez.
> > -Curt
> >   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Dan Penoff 
> >  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less
> >
> > Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I
> > scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's
> > license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license
plate.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a
scrapper
> > permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around
> > somewhere too.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the
> > proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's
worth?
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

A couple weeks ago I dropped some cans at a recycler close to my work, and
their signs say they can only take home/office HVAC stuff if you bring in a
receipt for the purchase of the new equipment that replaced the old.
Sounded kind of desperate to me. I'll bet I can gin up a pretty good
looking receipt on my laptop in about 10 minutes.

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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Arizona.

Also lost about $500,000 in shop tools in the event... so it stings. Major
reward posted.. perhaps they will be caught... likely it all went to Mexico.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wow. Where was that? Storage places here are hard to get into. That's a
> real loss.
>
> On Aug 10, 2015 9:29 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> >
> > 2 years ago, I had 5 cars stolen from storage. They were all waiting
> > restoration and none ran, so most likely they all were sold for scrap,
> > based on other things that were stolen in the robbery..
> >
> > To date.. despite having clear title to each vehicle, cops have found no
> > junkyard that will own up to taking them in, despite a state law that
> > requires them to record VIN numbers and have title in hand.
> >
> > Yeah.. in a perfect world..
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You need to find a redneck scrapper. Chuckie and I scrapped my '85 190D
> > > and I forgot to take the title. "Your car?" the guy asked. "Yup" I
> replied.
> > > "No problem" he sez.
> > > -Curt
> > >   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > > Cc: Dan Penoff 
> > >  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:48 PM
> > >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] MAF-less
> > >
> > > Down here they take everything but a DNA sample when you scrap stuff. I
> > > scrapped some alloy wheels a few years ago, and the took my driver's
> > > license to scan, a thumbprint, a picture, and a picture of my license
> plate.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > > On Aug 10, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Take it to the scrapyard, or I can take it -- you have to get a
> scrapper
> > > permit from the Sheriff these days.  I have an old one sitting around
> > > somewhere too.
> > > >
> > > > --R
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On 8/10/15 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >> I'll ship my old catalytic converter to you, if you pay me half the
> > > proceeds.  This came from my '95 E300 diesel, what do you think it's
> worth?
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Scrap prices are at an all time low right now, so many recyclers are
warehousing scrap, hoping for increase.

I just sold 4 tons of aluminum 3 weeks ago.. wished I had waited.. but
needed the material moved out.

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> A couple weeks ago I dropped some cans at a recycler close to my work, and
> their signs say they can only take home/office HVAC stuff if you bring in a
> receipt for the purchase of the new equipment that replaced the old.
> Sounded kind of desperate to me. I'll bet I can gin up a pretty good
> looking receipt on my laptop in about 10 minutes.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was surprised at the prices for catalytic converters, as I know that platinum 
is way down these days.

Dan



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> 
> Scrap prices are at an all time low right now, so many recyclers are
> warehousing scrap, hoping for increase.
> 
> I just sold 4 tons of aluminum 3 weeks ago.. wished I had waited.. but
> needed the material moved out.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[G Mann via Mercedes]

About 2005, when scrap prices were really high, there were a number of
folks here who would slide under cars in parking lots [ie WalMart] and use
battery sawzalls to cut cats out of as many cars as they could, then run
them to the scrap buyers to support their drug habit.

This happened so much that the cops put a serious hurt on scrap dealers who
were found buying them and put regs in place to curb such activity..

Seems to have worked.. haven't heard of it happening lately..

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> I was surprised at the prices for catalytic converters, as I know that
> platinum is way down these days.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Aug 10, 2015, at 9:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Scrap prices are at an all time low right now, so many recyclers are
> > warehousing scrap, hoping for increase.
> >
> > I just sold 4 tons of aluminum 3 weeks ago.. wished I had waited.. but
> > needed the material moved out.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I scrapped my old hvac heat pump a few weeks back, got about $100 for the whole 
deal. The compressor which weighed maybe 50 lb fetched the best after the 
copper coils. Cash for a bunch of iron etc (including old Benz rotors) but a 
check for the copper etc. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Aug 10, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

A couple weeks ago I dropped some cans at a recycler close to my work, and
their signs say they can only take home/office HVAC stuff if you bring in a
receipt for the purchase of the new equipment that replaced the old.
Sounded kind of desperate to me. I'll bet I can gin up a pretty good
looking receipt on my laptop in about 10 minutes.

-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic Brake Pads

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

It is not the pads that need the breakin.  It is the rotors.  proper 
breakin coats the rotors evenly with the pad material which bonds to 
the rotor.



hink the ceramic pads come already "set" by a baking process, read 
that over the weekend on one of the makers websites.  Not sure if 
Akebono are same, I don't remember any special process when I 
installed them a few years ago.


Just paid $45, I think OE from MB run about $70 or more.
--
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] MAF-less

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Arizona.

Also lost about $500,000 in shop tools in the event... so it stings. Major
reward posted.. perhaps they will be caught... likely it all went to Mexico.


Good thing there are no criminals sneaking across the border.   Only 
people who sing we are the world and kum by ya.


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