date:20060118


the oil filter on a 103 is just a spin on deal at the back of the engine.

Curt Raymond wrote:

I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil filter is? Is it as much of a pain as >on the 123/124 diesels? 


   
  Say WHAT? I hope you're thinking of the 115 diesels, on a 123 the oil filter couldn't be easier. Well okay theres a bunch of vacuum crap right there too but aside from that its pretty stinkin easy. A '96 Dodge Dakota v8 is MUCH harder which is why I don't change the oil in my Dakota...
   
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make


some people just dont understand I suppose.

Curt Raymond wrote:


My family has always had a designated "cat gun" with which to dispatch cats. 
It'd get used when we had a nuisence cat, like the stray that wouldn't come in and live 
inside but liked to poop on my Dad's car or when a cat is sick and dying and needs 
putting out of its misery. Very humane thing the cat gun. I used it once on a dog that 
got hit by a car in front of our house, thing was in such terrible shape I don't know 
what was keeping it alive but I couldn't bear to see it like that.
   
  I was amazed when I went to college and somehow got talking about the cat gun and a girl I went to school with was screaming at me and calling me all sorts of terrible things for shooting cats, she thought they should be "put to sleep". I told her thats what I was doing. Some people's kids...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:37 -0600

From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Not your fault - I started this one with my "CO2 powered pellet gun"
comment, which I still think is funny. It's just a shame that "some" 
reacted

so strongly to a joke.

At least I didn't start this one with a "poison cat food" comment

On a more serious cat note - they are so prevalent around here that the 
city
puts out baited traps all the time and I don't see anyone lining up at 
the
animal shelter to adopt cats. Wonder what happens to THOSE cats?? 
Maybe
the member who reacted so strongly would like a few hundred shipped to 
his

or her house?

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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror


YEa, I even ship them all over the world :)

Tom Hargrave wrote:


Kaleb,

Not all of us have 30 used mirrors to choose from...

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uses one are much much cheaper.

Trampas wrote:



I have several doing the same thing, I assumed it was glue. I even had the
mirror on the 85 300SD break, well the plastic on the back of mirror broke
such that spring for the night/day mode came out. $70 and a call to Rusty
fixed it.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD


yea, the photos suck.

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I'm still trying to decode the "green" exterior color, which looks every
shade of anything BUT green in the photos.

On 1/18/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm still trying to figure out what a "deathbeater" is...seller mentions
it
in response to a question.

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 300CD


the early ones had burl and the later zebrano?  I assumed they all had burl

andrew strasfogel wrote:


Relative to the 300CD turbodiesel coupes of later vintage (1982 - 1985), the
plain diesel 300CD (1978 0- 1980) had a much nicer burlwood (not zebrano)
dash.

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Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

2006-01-18 Thread Hendrik Riessen

I have one on the bottom of my 230E, which came off my old 200, which came 
from South Africa. Probably most ZA Mercs came with one.
No you can't have it. The mounting holes should be on every 123 and they are 
not hard to fit but finding one is going to be hard. Best bet is to find one 
in a wreck. Hate to think how much DC would want if they sold them.

Hendrik

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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

how much is this steel skidplate, and is it worth having?  Does any lister
have one?

Also, were they ever a factory option/standard feature?

On 1/18/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, the tranny was still going strong at about 180 K Kil if memory
serves
to be correct. The motor gave up a head gasket (again in the winter) and
it
was too expensive to have a shop fix it so we bought another car and let
it
sit until spring and then I fixed it. The motor was clean and showed
little
or no wear inside (I'm pretty anal about oil changes). It had 2 broken
head
bolts and that is why it blew the headgasket. It had always been somewhat
suspect as it constantly lost coolant but I just watched it and waited 
for

it to show me where. It finally did at Xmas time. The car was a year old
and
had about 40 K kil when I got it and I drove it fairly hard and then
dumped
it on my wife. The body was losing paint pretty bad by the time we sold 
it
but it really wasn't too bad. Struts were the worst expense except for 
the
head gasket. It had a water pump, brakes and a battery over about 10 
years
but then it really did not get a lot of miles. 180 K Kil is only about 
112

K
miles.

Randy

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R A Bennell wrote:

> My wife ripped a bit of a hole into the bottom of the tranny oilpan on
an
86
> Taurus that we had a while back. She ran over a curb that was hidden in
some
> snow and snagged the oil drain plug that I had thoughtfully installed
myself
> to make changing the tranny oil cleaner and easier. Unfortunately, that
> little bung was about the lowest thing on the car. She didn't realize 
> it

and
> drove it home. Next morning we had this pool of red on the garage 
> floor.

> Didn't hurt the tranny - just cost a used tranny oilpan and some new
oil.
I
> was even able to drive it to a local tranny shop as it was winter and
cold
> out.

That is impressive.  I don't think I've ever heard of a Taurus
transmission that didn't destruct. ;)

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103

I noticed there is a nice looking 90 or 91 300SE in the autotrader 
locally for 5k or so.  Anyways, the fuel filter is more of a hassle than 
the diesels, its righ next the the right rear tire, under the car. You 
have to loosen the bracket, remove the lines and pull it out. Will also 
probalby have to remove the protective cover as well.


Donald Snook wrote:


I will be flying out to Tampa this Friday for my Rendezvous with my new
car.  The seller is meeting me at the airport. He will have title in
hand and I will have check to present to him.  Here's is my question.
Where is the fuel filter on a M103?  Is it as easy to change as on the
diesels - i.e. spin on?  The spark plugs are probably fairly accessible
given the fact that it is a straight six.  Any weird maintenance quirks
I need to know about the M103 or the 126?  Things like coolant flushes,
power steering fluid changes, transmission fluid changes, and brakes
will be fairly standard, so I won't have to (get to) learn anything new
about that.   I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil
filter is? Is it as much of a pain as on the 123/124 diesels?   Any
thoughts would be great? 

 


Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon

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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

yep, I should have never got rid of mine, now everyone has them.  I 
Think at the time I as probably the only one that had a 2.5.


Dave M. wrote:


Congrats, Sunil! I can see Kaleb turning green already.

=)

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From: Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T


I'm now the proud owner of a 1992 MB 300D 2.5T - I'm the third owner, all
records, smoke silver with beige MB-Tex, 286Kmi.  I'm taking delivery this
weekend.

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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

I'm not one to get behind Aspens or Volares. I don't like any muscle car 
post-'70. So I'm not surprised that a Vette could walk away from a 360 CID 
'A Body'.

From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:34:02 -0500

Brian Chase wrote:
>
> Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran 
Tucson's

> "finest" (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.)

I remember reading an article supposedly written by a cap, about
when his department had Aspens or Volares. One time he was running
flat out on an emergency run when some joker in a Vette passed him.
Later that night, he spied the parked Vette and did a full throttle
U-turn. A ball joint separated, causing the front of the criuser
to collapse. Vette pilot got arrested, he was laughing too hard to
run away.

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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

For the record I dont see ANYTHING wrong with plunking a BB at a 
cat/dog/whatever that is doing something its not supposed to.  It will 
not kill said animal but will shock them into thinking twice.  Now if 
you load up a pellet instead and pump that sucker up quite a bit, you 
could get a lethal shot I suppose, but not with a low powered bb.  Its 
better than having to all out shoot to kill the thing.


Tom Hargrave wrote:

Not your fault - I started this one with my "CO2 powered pellet gun"
comment, which I still think is funny. It's just a shame that "some" reacted
so strongly to a joke.

At least I didn't start this one with a "poison cat food" comment

On a more serious cat note - they are so prevalent around here that the city
puts out baited traps all the time and I don't see anyone lining up at the
animal shelter to adopt cats. Wonder what happens to THOSE cats?? Maybe
the member who reacted so strongly would like a few hundred shipped to his
or her house?

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That was very Banned-like. I should have seen it coming when I mentioned the
cat walking on my car.

BobRentfro

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If nothing else, "we" have been treated to a small taste of what it is
like
to subscribe to Banned. Banned is the same thing, only different.

On 1/18/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm all for jokes, but there are a lot of people who actually DO
demented stuff like this, not just joke about it - which is why I
don't find it humorous.





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Re: [MBZ] I know you want this


oh geez!!

Rich Thomas wrote:

OK smartasses I scanned an ad and it did not go through.  I have done 
that before and it did go through.  I guess that is not allowed anymore.


Anyway, this is what you really really want, was in the Houston paper 
the last coupla weeks:


67 Mercedes 4 Dr with Ford V/8. Custom Purple. $4500  (281) 235-4989

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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



WOW that was what I wanted.

Rich Thomas wrote:





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Re: [MBZ] I know you want this


did you remember to attatch it?

Rich Thomas wrote:

OK smartasses I scanned an ad and it did not go through.  I have done 
that before and it did go through.  I guess that is not allowed anymore.


Anyway, this is what you really really want, was in the Houston paper 
the last coupla weeks:


67 Mercedes 4 Dr with Ford V/8. Custom Purple. $4500  (281) 235-4989

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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



WOW that was what I wanted.

Rich Thomas wrote:





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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

WOW, marshall is living life on the edge. Next thing you know he will be 
on banned. GO MARSHALL GO MARSHALL


Marshall Booth wrote:


Luther Gulseth wrote:


Jeeze Dave and Hans, it's a JOKE!  Can't we have just a touch of fun once and a 
while?



Sure, killing people's pets is funny as hell!

Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T


cool, did you get a good deal?

Sunil Hari wrote:


I'm now the proud owner of a 1992 MB 300D 2.5T - I'm the third owner, all
records, smoke silver with beige MB-Tex, 286Kmi.  I'm taking delivery this
weekend.

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 300CD


looks like he is just selling parts.

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[MBZ] Viva La France, was Oil Pan Clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Dan Weeks


Damn, I love a good 'French car gets best of hopped-up cop car'
story--Vive La France!

On 1/18/06, Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police
 interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most
 humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was
 that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the
 time.


That was a wonderful car. I mistyped--it was a 504. He also had a 505 
that he didn't like nearly as well. Said it had been americanized in 
design and cheapened in manufacture. That 504 was every bit as 
comfortable a ride as my 126. Not as good in hard corners due to 
typical French body roll, but unbeatable on rough roads. What 
eventually killed it was cracking two heads. By the time the second 
one went, it was almost impossible to get parts. The engine was 
bomber, though, with wet liners and everything. Got 32 mpg city or 
highway. A bit more agile than a 240D, a bit less solid feeling, but 
a wonderful, well-built car you could drive for days at a stretch.



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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Mitch Haley

Brian Chase wrote:
> 
> Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran Tucson's
> "finest" (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.)

I remember reading an article supposedly written by a cap, about
when his department had Aspens or Volares. One time he was running
flat out on an emergency run when some joker in a Vette passed him. 
Later that night, he spied the parked Vette and did a full throttle
U-turn. A ball joint separated, causing the front of the criuser
to collapse. Vette pilot got arrested, he was laughing too hard to
run away.

Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

2006-01-18 Thread Sunil Hari

how much is this steel skidplate, and is it worth having?  Does any lister
have one?

Also, were they ever a factory option/standard feature?

On 1/18/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, the tranny was still going strong at about 180 K Kil if memory
> serves
> to be correct. The motor gave up a head gasket (again in the winter) and
> it
> was too expensive to have a shop fix it so we bought another car and let
> it
> sit until spring and then I fixed it. The motor was clean and showed
> little
> or no wear inside (I'm pretty anal about oil changes). It had 2 broken
> head
> bolts and that is why it blew the headgasket. It had always been somewhat
> suspect as it constantly lost coolant but I just watched it and waited for
> it to show me where. It finally did at Xmas time. The car was a year old
> and
> had about 40 K kil when I got it and I drove it fairly hard and then
> dumped
> it on my wife. The body was losing paint pretty bad by the time we sold it
> but it really wasn't too bad. Struts were the worst expense except for the
> head gasket. It had a water pump, brakes and a battery over about 10 years
> but then it really did not get a lot of miles. 180 K Kil is only about 112
> K
> miles.
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tom savage
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:37 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D
>
>
> R A Bennell wrote:
>
> > My wife ripped a bit of a hole into the bottom of the tranny oilpan on
> an
> 86
> > Taurus that we had a while back. She ran over a curb that was hidden in
> some
> > snow and snagged the oil drain plug that I had thoughtfully installed
> myself
> > to make changing the tranny oil cleaner and easier. Unfortunately, that
> > little bung was about the lowest thing on the car. She didn't realize it
> and
> > drove it home. Next morning we had this pool of red on the garage floor.
> > Didn't hurt the tranny - just cost a used tranny oilpan and some new
> oil.
> I
> > was even able to drive it to a local tranny shop as it was winter and
> cold
> > out.
>
> That is impressive.  I don't think I've ever heard of a Taurus
> transmission that didn't destruct. ;)
>
> Tom
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

Didn't have that (temperature) problem in AZ either. But used to roll my 
Sportster inside my apartment just the same. Eventually stopped doing it and 
thus stopped owning it.


Brian
83 240D
92 Harley Sportster (now serving in Mexico)


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:52:41 -0700

I don't have to worry about the cold...although it did get to 31 degrees
last night (and she started right up...).
What spins me up is the stupid neighbor's cat. I hate to have paw prints on
my car.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K (CLEAN AGAIN!)
Litchfield Park, AZ


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make


> We don't have that problem down here
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:30 AM
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> Subject: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
>
>
> 240D cranked a little slow when I was going home from work yesterday. No
> problem, I told myself, just slap on the battery charger overnight.
>
> When I got home, parked the car outside intending to put it in the 
garage

> (and attach the battery charger) after supper. Got involved in a three
> hour
> household project and forgot all about the car.
>
> Walked out of the house and into the garage at 7:30 this morning. "Hey,
> where's my car?"  Oooops, it was outside in mid-teen temps with a 
non-100%
> battery. Glow plug light didn't come on, either (a common problem when 
the

> car is really cold).
>
> So ... before walking to my office (just a few blocks) I hooked up the
> battery charger!
>
> Note to self -- put the car in the garage immediately after arriving at
> the
> house, especially in the winter.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

Well, the tranny was still going strong at about 180 K Kil if memory serves
to be correct. The motor gave up a head gasket (again in the winter) and it
was too expensive to have a shop fix it so we bought another car and let it
sit until spring and then I fixed it. The motor was clean and showed little
or no wear inside (I'm pretty anal about oil changes). It had 2 broken head
bolts and that is why it blew the headgasket. It had always been somewhat
suspect as it constantly lost coolant but I just watched it and waited for
it to show me where. It finally did at Xmas time. The car was a year old and
had about 40 K kil when I got it and I drove it fairly hard and then dumped
it on my wife. The body was losing paint pretty bad by the time we sold it
but it really wasn't too bad. Struts were the worst expense except for the
head gasket. It had a water pump, brakes and a battery over about 10 years
but then it really did not get a lot of miles. 180 K Kil is only about 112 K
miles.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

R A Bennell wrote:

> My wife ripped a bit of a hole into the bottom of the tranny oilpan on an
86
> Taurus that we had a while back. She ran over a curb that was hidden in
some
> snow and snagged the oil drain plug that I had thoughtfully installed
myself
> to make changing the tranny oil cleaner and easier. Unfortunately, that
> little bung was about the lowest thing on the car. She didn't realize it
and
> drove it home. Next morning we had this pool of red on the garage floor.
> Didn't hurt the tranny - just cost a used tranny oilpan and some new oil.
I
> was even able to drive it to a local tranny shop as it was winter and cold
> out.

That is impressive.  I don't think I've ever heard of a Taurus
transmission that didn't destruct. ;)

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

AAAh. An achilles heel revealed. This wasn't on the MBZ website! (ducking)

Brian

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:58:00 -0500

Terry Geiger wrote:
> I think one thing that may cause an early engine replacement is the 
exposed
> oil pan on a 123.  I looked at a 240D last year and the claim was it had 
a
> new engine at 150k because the previous owner ran over something in the 
road

> and punctured the oil pan.

That is a not uncommon failure with Mercedes diesels
(115/123/124/126/201 diesels at least) if the pan hits a curb, speed
bump, railroad tracks or the like. Mercedes sells a steel skid plate
that provides considerable protection. Despite many insurance companies
NOT volunteering that they cover such collisions, they ARE covered by
collision insurance in MOST states. A neighbor had the engine in his 76
300D replaced in the late '70s (he had to appeal to the PA Insurance
Commission who ruled in his favor) and Richard Easley (from that OTHER
list) had the engine in his 300SDL covered 6-7 years ago. I've heard of
several others being covered.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

2006-01-18 Thread Marshall Booth


Terry Geiger wrote:
I think one thing that may cause an early engine replacement is the exposed 
oil pan on a 123.  I looked at a 240D last year and the claim was it had a 
new engine at 150k because the previous owner ran over something in the road 
and punctured the oil pan.


That is a not uncommon failure with Mercedes diesels 
(115/123/124/126/201 diesels at least) if the pan hits a curb, speed 
bump, railroad tracks or the like. Mercedes sells a steel skid plate 
that provides considerable protection. Despite many insurance companies 
NOT volunteering that they cover such collisions, they ARE covered by 
collision insurance in MOST states. A neighbor had the engine in his 76 
300D replaced in the late '70s (he had to appeal to the PA Insurance 
Commission who ruled in his favor) and Richard Easley (from that OTHER 
list) had the engine in his 300SDL covered 6-7 years ago. I've heard of 
several others being covered.


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Re: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103

2006-01-18 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Changing the fuel filter is a pain because the large feed hose has to be 
clamped but there will still be a little bit of fuel escape all over your 
arm. There should also be a screen in the tank itself which can block up. 
There should be small screens within the fuel system itself (there are on 
the K-jetronic) that can block up.
Far as the oil goes, if you give the filter a chance to drain there should 
not be oil come out of it but change the filter reguarly because they are 
fairly small for the size of the motor and I know the earlier cannister 
types (in the M102) where quite inadequate. Also if you plan on keeping the 
car for a while get the best filters available, that is not an area to save 
money.


Hendrik

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103



Donald,

The fuel filter is probably under the rear of the car, by the right
rear tire, behind a plastic panel. At least that's where the fuel
pumps and filter are hidden on all 124 gassers. The M103 oil filter is
awful, it's a spin-on at the rear of the engine. Removing the air
filter allows better access. It's mounted upside down, so when you
remove it, you'll get a half-pint of oil spilled down the block,
making a nice mess... every time. I much prefer the diesel, and M119
(V8) gas, cartridge filters which can be changed with zero spillage.
If you think the diesel oil fiter change is a pain, you'll looove the
M103, heh-heh. Stick with the OEM filters from Rusty, of course, or
perhaps the K&N (my favorite non-OEM spin-on oil filter.)

:)

+dm


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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:59:15 -0600
From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103


I will be flying out to Tampa this Friday for my Rendezvous with my new
car.  The seller is meeting me at the airport. He will have title in
hand and I will have check to present to him.  Here's is my question.
Where is the fuel filter on a M103?  Is it as easy to change as on the
diesels - i.e. spin on?  The spark plugs are probably fairly accessible
given the fact that it is a straight six.  Any weird maintenance quirks
I need to know about the M103 or the 126?  Things like coolant flushes,
power steering fluid changes, transmission fluid changes, and brakes
will be fairly standard, so I won't have to (get to) learn anything new
about that.   I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil
filter is? Is it as much of a pain as on the 123/124 diesels?   Any
thoughts would be great?



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon


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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

I don't think the old Chrysler products had any more problem with stock oil 
pan clearance than any other make. Perhaps it was due to the tank-like 
dimensions of that Fury III coupled with insufficient suspension.


Speaking of outrunning cops, the same engine I'm speaking of outran Tucson's 
"finest" (and their Chevys were running fine - just not enough umph.)


Brian
83 240D
68 Dodge Coronet 500


From: Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:20:25 -0800

Damn, I love a good 'French car gets best of hopped-up cop car'
story--Vive La France!

On 1/18/06, Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police
> interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most
> humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was
> that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the
> time.

Casey
Olympia, WA
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'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

2006-01-18 Thread Kevin

On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 09:28:57AM -0800, Luther Gulseth wrote:
> no need for sardines, the cat will love you the same for a nice bowl of 
> antifreeze! :)

No, and the sardines won't be enough either. There is now a bittering agent
in antifreeze to counteract animals' unhealthy draw to ethylene glycol.

K

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T


In fact, I happen to think (and I'm sure Jim will disagree strenously
here), that straight-across trunk lids, especially those with
pronounced curved edges leading down from the decklid to the seal (as
on a BMW 2002), look silly.   Like the car is pulling a pirate's
treasure chest on a trailer.


R, matey!  My faaavorite feature.

The low-access trunks, in order to give you enough clearance
to actually get into the things, open to near vertical.  Which
means that the trunk opening can't be too big or you wouldn't
be able to reach it to close it.  Which makes in all for a
nasty squatty little hole of a trunk with a limp-wristed
tiny little lid with an awkward closing action.  Ugh.

Low-access also means that crap will roll out of it if you
ever need to leave the lid open to carry something large.
Double-ugh.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 123 radio guidance?

2006-01-18 Thread Luther Gulseth

"Radio guidance sensor"  Could this be a product of bad translation?

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 radio guidance?


> "at the very bottom of the page is a little rotary knob
>  captioned "Radio guidance sensor."  Huh? "

IIRC I saw this explained fairly recently as something
a lot like the US "Traffic info tune to 530 AM" system,
but with a few dedicated channels.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Zeitgeist

Damn, I love a good 'French car gets best of hopped-up cop car'
story--Vive La France!

On 1/18/06, Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police
> interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most
> humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was
> that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the
> time.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] 123 radio guidance?


"at the very bottom of the page is a little rotary knob
 captioned "Radio guidance sensor."  Huh? "


IIRC I saw this explained fairly recently as something
a lot like the US "Traffic info tune to 530 AM" system,
but with a few dedicated channels.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 123 radio guidance?

2006-01-18 Thread Loren Faeth


The original smart bomb?   Full scale remote control toy?

At 03:42 PM 1/18/2006, you wrote:

Tom typed:

"at the very bottom of the page is a little rotary knob
 captioned "Radio guidance sensor."  Huh? "

I saw one of those in a photo of an ebay car for sale recently and I had no
idea what it was. Now I know what it is but i don't know what it is supposed
to do.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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[MBZ] Deep Sump clearance

2006-01-18 Thread Dan Weeks


on my '68 Coronet I had a deep-sump oil
pan put on when I had that engine rebuilt. It hangs a couple inches below
the cross-member (looks cool - I still haven't entirely grown up). But it's
a very skiddish feeling to know that if I take a road at higher speed with
dips in it, it could be a real problem. I always wanted to fashion a thick
aluminum shield.

Yeah. My brother once outran an early seventies Fury III Police 
interceptor with a 440 due to the latter's oilpan damage. The most 
humiliating part of the incident (for the Maine State Trooper) was 
that my brother was driving a Peugeot 505 diesel (2.4l, 70 hp) at the 
time.


Here's what happened: Bombing down a backroad in northern Maine. 
Long, steep downhill, very rough. Brother cruising down the hill, 
speed limit 45, on the Poo-goat's bottomless suspension at about 75, 
no problem. Cop comes after him. Brother opens the 'goat up, which on 
a steep downhill resulted in a mechanically governed top speed of an 
indicated 100mph. By this time, his wheels are often off the ground, 
but since he's up against the governor, he hardly notices, as the 
revs don't change, and all that suspension travel was acting like it 
was made for touch-and-go landings. Still, cruiser gaining fast, but 
brother just kept his foot down and waited for the inevitable, as he 
knew the road well. Looks in the mirror to see the cruiser sail off a 
bump into midair and come down nose-first at a pretty steep angle 
midway up the next bump. Car parts go every where, including a big 
chunk of the pan. Cruiser coasted to a stop. Brother did not.


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Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D

2006-01-18 Thread Sunil Hari

does anyone want me to take a look at this car?

On 1/18/06, Brian Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after 150k,
> but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D when I
> bought it. What up???
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
> >From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D
> >Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:55:32 -0500
> >
> >Rick Knoble wrote:
> > >
> > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/126140059.html
> >
> >Hey Sunil!
> >
> >What is that, parchment seats and palamino door panels?
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

2006-01-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain

> The offense to my eye is the 'low-entry' trunk
> style, especially when coupled with the angled rear opening
> and the associated cat's-eye taillights.  And right now nearly
> _everything_ is that way.  Ugh.

The trapezoidal opening and matching lights are the first thing I
noticed when I first saw a 124 as a car-crazy teenager, and to me are
by far the best feature of the car's styling!  I prefer 124 sedans to
wagons for this very reason.

In fact, I happen to think (and I'm sure Jim will disagree strenously
here), that straight-across trunk lids, especially those with
pronounced curved edges leading down from the decklid to the seal (as
on a BMW 2002), look silly.   Like the car is pulling a pirate's
treasure chest on a trailer.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D

Re: [MBZ] 123 radio guidance?


Tom typed:

"at the very bottom of the page is a little rotary knob
captioned "Radio guidance sensor."  Huh? "

I saw one of those in a photo of an ebay car for sale recently and I had no 
idea what it was. Now I know what it is but i don't know what it is supposed 
to do.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

2006-01-18 Thread tom savage


R A Bennell wrote:


My wife ripped a bit of a hole into the bottom of the tranny oilpan on an 86
Taurus that we had a while back. She ran over a curb that was hidden in some
snow and snagged the oil drain plug that I had thoughtfully installed myself
to make changing the tranny oil cleaner and easier. Unfortunately, that
little bung was about the lowest thing on the car. She didn't realize it and
drove it home. Next morning we had this pool of red on the garage floor.
Didn't hurt the tranny - just cost a used tranny oilpan and some new oil. I
was even able to drive it to a local tranny shop as it was winter and cold
out.


That is impressive.  I don't think I've ever heard of a Taurus 
transmission that didn't destruct. ;)


Tom

Re: [MBZ] I know you want this

On 1/18/06, V Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From: Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >--
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> >
> This line kills me!
>
> Very good, is it yours?
>
> Vince

I don't remember where I first heard this line, my usual line used to
be "There is no piece of information that is not knowledge, as there
is no piece of knowledge that is not power." That is a philosophy I
still hold true, so when I saw this it fit ... mostly because it says
the same, but shorter.

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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T


I personally think the 124 has one of the best-executed automotive
gluteus maximi ever. In the words of Victoria's Secret, "very sexy".


De gustibus non est disputandum.  Personally I find the VS models
very repellant, but only from the neck up!

-- Jim

[MBZ] 123 radio guidance?

2006-01-18 Thread tom savage

I found a site showing various options available on the 123 at 
http://www.mercedes-damien.com/historique/modeles%20sous%20menu/W123/optionsW123.htm


It has the usual stuff you never see like the preheater and the cell 
phone, but at the very bottom of the page is a little rotary knob 
captioned "Radio guidance sensor."  Huh?  There is the factory option 
code 351 "autopilot system" (COMAND?) and we all know Mercedes did its 
best work with slide rules and not computers, but I think this is a bit 
beyond the capabilities of 1970s technology.


So, anyone know what the heck it is?

Tom

Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

Probably not a bad idea to add a shield of some sort if it could be done
without too much trouble.

My wife ripped a bit of a hole into the bottom of the tranny oilpan on an 86
Taurus that we had a while back. She ran over a curb that was hidden in some
snow and snagged the oil drain plug that I had thoughtfully installed myself
to make changing the tranny oil cleaner and easier. Unfortunately, that
little bung was about the lowest thing on the car. She didn't realize it and
drove it home. Next morning we had this pool of red on the garage floor.
Didn't hurt the tranny - just cost a used tranny oilpan and some new oil. I
was even able to drive it to a local tranny shop as it was winter and cold
out.

Randy

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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

You're kidding. These well-designed autos have the oil pan vulnerable to
turfing if I ever bottom out? That disappoints me.

I know the feeling of having this - on my '68 Coronet I had a deep-sump oil
pan put on when I had that engine rebuilt. It hangs a couple inches below
the cross-member (looks cool - I still haven't entirely grown up). But it's
a very skiddish feeling to know that if I take a road at higher speed with
dips in it, it could be a real problem. I always wanted to fashion a thick
aluminum shield.

Brian
83 240D

>From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D
>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:12:43 -0500
>
>The PO of our 1985 300CD told us the same story to explain the $5,300
>engine
>replacement, so I believe it.
>
>On 1/18/06, Terry Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think one thing that may cause an early engine replacement is the
> > exposed
> > oil pan on a 123.  I looked at a 240D last year and the claim was it had
>a
> > new engine at 150k because the previous owner ran over something in the
> > road
> > and punctured the oil pan.
> >
> > Terry Geiger
> > http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org
> > '74 Triumph TR6 (my sunny day car)
> > '63 Triumph Herald (wife's sunny day car)
> > '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel (wife's car)
> > '90 Chevy S10 (parts fetcher)
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D
> >
> >
> > > Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after
> > 150k,
> > > but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D
>when
> > I
> > > bought it. What up???
> > >
> > > Brian
> > > 83 240D
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

About time to give this subject a rest.

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

Well, let's look at this philosophically.  If someone cares for their pets,
perhaps they should not allow their pets to trespass on others' property.
Once your pet is on my property against my will, it is violating my rights
(just as if you trespass on my property you are violating same rights), and
has no rights of its own (well, animals don't actually have rights -
technically what has occurred is you have forfeited your right to have your
animal as your unharmed property) - so I can (morally speaking, not
practically, see next paragraph) do to it what I want - let it roam,
forcibly remove it, or end the problem in other ways.

Granted, legally the trespassee probably can't do much, but then again
legally you can't do much when there's a robber in your house, either - even
places that do have "make my day" laws usually really restrict their
applicability (which is sad, blatant bs).  But, the main point is,
responsible pet owners keep their animals under control and don't let them
wander on people's cars or whatnot - and they shouldn't be upset when others
are annoyed by this kind of irresponsibility, and express that annoyance in
allegedly inappropriate ways.

Nomex suit on
T

PS - Cats are great - with the right sauce

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> Luther Gulseth wrote:
> > Jeeze Dave and Hans, it's a JOKE!  Can't we have just a
> touch of fun
> > once and a while?
>
> Sure, killing people's pets is funny as hell!
>
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Euro light level control (was: CR headlight bulbs)

2006-01-18 Thread Aaron Lam

The deal with the switches is a bit weird. All 123, 126, and early 124
models with SLS had a different switch (I'm not sure if the vacuum
bleed values are different or not) with different markings instead of
the regular 0-3 numerals. Later 124 models had an entirely different
switch that was used throughout the 124 range, whether SLS equipped or
not. The later switch is preferable because it has check valves
integrated into the switch itself and the numbers are on the trimpiece
(versus the switch) so they light up at night.

-Aaron

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Upgrade?

2006-01-18 Thread Desert Rat

Roger, here's another thought.

Log on to www.tirerack.com and see if they offer that wheel size and
tire size in their upgrade area for the W126.
If yes, it would be a go as they are very good about this sort of thing.

On 1/18/06, Roger Conlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What makes you think they would rub?
> They sell 18" for W126 models
>
> >--
> >
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> >Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:02:57 -0500
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> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92870
>
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> >On 1/18/06, Roger Conlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The rims are a 7.5Jx16H  ET23.
> > > It's about a 3hr drive one way to pick them up.
> > >
> > > Roger
> >
> >Going to mount them there and drive 3 hours back with new rims rubbing?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

2006-01-18 Thread Aaron Lam

I personally think the 124 has one of the best-executed automotive
gluteus maximi ever. In the words of Victoria's Secret, "very sexy".

-Aaron
1987 300D

On 1/18/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm not sure.  The offense to my eye is the 'low-entry' trunk
> style, especially when coupled with the angled rear opening
> and the associated cat's-eye taillights.  And right now nearly
> _everything_ is that way.  Ugh.

[MBZ] Wheel Upgrade?

2006-01-18 Thread Roger Conlon

What makes you think they would rub?
They sell 18" for W126 models

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:02:57 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92870

To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 1/18/06, Roger Conlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The rims are a 7.5Jx16H  ET23.
> It's about a 3hr drive one way to pick them up.
>
> Roger

Going to mount them there and drive 3 hours back with new rims rubbing?

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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

2006-01-18 Thread Tim C

Well, let's look at this philosophically.  If someone cares for their pets,
perhaps they should not allow their pets to trespass on others' property.
Once your pet is on my property against my will, it is violating my rights
(just as if you trespass on my property you are violating same rights), and
has no rights of its own (well, animals don't actually have rights -
technically what has occurred is you have forfeited your right to have your
animal as your unharmed property) - so I can (morally speaking, not
practically, see next paragraph) do to it what I want - let it roam,
forcibly remove it, or end the problem in other ways.

Granted, legally the trespassee probably can't do much, but then again
legally you can't do much when there's a robber in your house, either - even
places that do have "make my day" laws usually really restrict their
applicability (which is sad, blatant bs).  But, the main point is,
responsible pet owners keep their animals under control and don't let them
wander on people's cars or whatnot - and they shouldn't be upset when others
are annoyed by this kind of irresponsibility, and express that annoyance in
allegedly inappropriate ways.

Nomex suit on
T

PS - Cats are great - with the right sauce 

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> 
> 
> Luther Gulseth wrote:
> > Jeeze Dave and Hans, it's a JOKE!  Can't we have just a 
> touch of fun 
> > once and a while?
> 
> Sure, killing people's pets is funny as hell!
> 
> Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103

Donald,

The fuel filter is probably under the rear of the car, by the right
rear tire, behind a plastic panel. At least that's where the fuel
pumps and filter are hidden on all 124 gassers. The M103 oil filter is
awful, it's a spin-on at the rear of the engine. Removing the air
filter allows better access. It's mounted upside down, so when you
remove it, you'll get a half-pint of oil spilled down the block,
making a nice mess... every time. I much prefer the diesel, and M119
(V8) gas, cartridge filters which can be changed with zero spillage.
If you think the diesel oil fiter change is a pain, you'll looove the
M103, heh-heh. Stick with the OEM filters from Rusty, of course, or
perhaps the K&N (my favorite non-OEM spin-on oil filter.)

:)

+dm

> --
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:59:15 -0600
> From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103
>
>
> I will be flying out to Tampa this Friday for my Rendezvous with my new
> car.  The seller is meeting me at the airport. He will have title in
> hand and I will have check to present to him.  Here's is my question.
> Where is the fuel filter on a M103?  Is it as easy to change as on the
> diesels - i.e. spin on?  The spark plugs are probably fairly accessible
> given the fact that it is a straight six.  Any weird maintenance quirks
> I need to know about the M103 or the 126?  Things like coolant flushes,
> power steering fluid changes, transmission fluid changes, and brakes
> will be fairly standard, so I won't have to (get to) learn anything new
> about that.   I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil
> filter is? Is it as much of a pain as on the 123/124 diesels?   Any
> thoughts would be great?
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> 1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon

Re: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103

2006-01-18 Thread Curt Raymond

>I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil filter is? Is it as much 
>of a pain as >on the 123/124 diesels? 
   
  Say WHAT? I hope you're thinking of the 115 diesels, on a 123 the oil filter 
couldn't be easier. Well okay theres a bunch of vacuum crap right there too but 
aside from that its pretty stinkin easy. A '96 Dodge Dakota v8 is MUCH harder 
which is why I don't change the oil in my Dakota...
   
  -Curt


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If it is like the 420 and 560 126's, the fuel filter is next to the fuel 
pump by the tank. It is accessible from under the car.

Dave W

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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103


>I will be flying out to Tampa this Friday for my Rendezvous with my new
> car.  The seller is meeting me at the airport. He will have title in
> hand and I will have check to present to him.  Here's is my question.
> Where is the fuel filter on a M103?  Is it as easy to change as on the
> diesels - i.e. spin on?  The spark plugs are probably fairly accessible
> given the fact that it is a straight six.  Any weird maintenance quirks
> I need to know about the M103 or the 126?  Things like coolant flushes,
> power steering fluid changes, transmission fluid changes, and brakes
> will be fairly standard, so I won't have to (get to) learn anything new
> about that.   I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil
> filter is? Is it as much of a pain as on the 123/124 diesels?   Any
> thoughts would be great?
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> 1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon
>
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Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

You're kidding. These well-designed autos have the oil pan vulnerable to 
turfing if I ever bottom out? That disappoints me.


I know the feeling of having this - on my '68 Coronet I had a deep-sump oil 
pan put on when I had that engine rebuilt. It hangs a couple inches below 
the cross-member (looks cool - I still haven't entirely grown up). But it's 
a very skiddish feeling to know that if I take a road at higher speed with 
dips in it, it could be a real problem. I always wanted to fashion a thick 
aluminum shield.


Brian
83 240D


From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:12:43 -0500

The PO of our 1985 300CD told us the same story to explain the $5,300 
engine

replacement, so I believe it.

On 1/18/06, Terry Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think one thing that may cause an early engine replacement is the
> exposed
> oil pan on a 123.  I looked at a 240D last year and the claim was it had 
a

> new engine at 150k because the previous owner ran over something in the
> road
> and punctured the oil pan.
>
> Terry Geiger
> http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org
> '74 Triumph TR6 (my sunny day car)
> '63 Triumph Herald (wife's sunny day car)
> '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel (wife's car)
> '90 Chevy S10 (parts fetcher)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D
>
>
> > Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after
> 150k,
> > but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D 
when

> I
> > bought it. What up???
> >
> > Brian
> > 83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103

Take it to a, gasp!! dealer close by and have them do a basic oil change
etc. Can't cost an arm and a leg and should give you a bit of piece of mind
to start out.

Randy

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Subject: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103


I will be flying out to Tampa this Friday for my Rendezvous with my new
car.  The seller is meeting me at the airport. He will have title in
hand and I will have check to present to him.  Here's is my question.
Where is the fuel filter on a M103?  Is it as easy to change as on the
diesels - i.e. spin on?  The spark plugs are probably fairly accessible
given the fact that it is a straight six.  Any weird maintenance quirks
I need to know about the M103 or the 126?  Things like coolant flushes,
power steering fluid changes, transmission fluid changes, and brakes
will be fairly standard, so I won't have to (get to) learn anything new
about that.   I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil
filter is? Is it as much of a pain as on the 123/124 diesels?   Any
thoughts would be great?



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon

1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K For Sale

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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

We have two adorable black Bombay kittens (minipanthers), both of whom love
to jump up on the kitchen counter.  We keep a water squirter handy as a
deterrent.  It's cost-effective (cheap), humane, and highly effective.  You
should see the look on the cat's face when we merely threaten him with the
water bottle.  BTW, I should add that they both drink from a Drinkwell Pet
Fountain (highly recommended) and love to play in the sink while I am
brushing my teeth.  Therefore, there have been NO traumatic side effects
from the regular jolts of H2O.

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>
> Amen. Very well put, John.
>
> :)
>
> +dm
>
> > --
> > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:39:14 -0500
> > From: John Ervine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
> >
> > Tom Hargrave wrote:
> > > Wonder what happens to THOSE cats??
> >
> > If you are attempting to justify ethlyene glycol poisoning as a moral
> equivalent
> > to euthanization as a means of population control, I think you've missed
> the point.
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

2006-01-18 Thread Curt Raymond

My family has always had a designated "cat gun" with which to dispatch cats. 
It'd get used when we had a nuisence cat, like the stray that wouldn't come in 
and live inside but liked to poop on my Dad's car or when a cat is sick and 
dying and needs putting out of its misery. Very humane thing the cat gun. I 
used it once on a dog that got hit by a car in front of our house, thing was in 
such terrible shape I don't know what was keeping it alive but I couldn't bear 
to see it like that.
   
  I was amazed when I went to college and somehow got talking about the cat gun 
and a girl I went to school with was screaming at me and calling me all sorts 
of terrible things for shooting cats, she thought they should be "put to 
sleep". I told her thats what I was doing. Some people's kids...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:37 -0600
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Not your fault - I started this one with my "CO2 powered pellet gun"
comment, which I still think is funny. It's just a shame that "some" 
reacted
so strongly to a joke.

At least I didn't start this one with a "poison cat food" comment

On a more serious cat note - they are so prevalent around here that the 
city
puts out baited traps all the time and I don't see anyone lining up at 
the
animal shelter to adopt cats. Wonder what happens to THOSE cats?? 
Maybe
the member who reacted so strongly would like a few hundred shipped to 
his
or her house?

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check fluids in trans and motor - take note of any abnormal smells or
discoloration.
check antifreeze level
check brake fluid

stop at wally world and pickup up some oil, trans fluid and antifreeze to
have on hand during your trip back as well as windshield washer fluid if
adverse weather patterns will be interacting with your travel route.

James Zavesky


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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:59 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103


> I will be flying out to Tampa this Friday for my Rendezvous with my new
> car.  The seller is meeting me at the airport. He will have title in
> hand and I will have check to present to him.  Here's is my question.
> Where is the fuel filter on a M103?  Is it as easy to change as on the
> diesels - i.e. spin on?  The spark plugs are probably fairly accessible
> given the fact that it is a straight six.  Any weird maintenance quirks
> I need to know about the M103 or the 126?  Things like coolant flushes,
> power steering fluid changes, transmission fluid changes, and brakes
> will be fairly standard, so I won't have to (get to) learn anything new
> about that.   I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil
> filter is? Is it as much of a pain as on the 123/124 diesels?   Any
> thoughts would be great?
>
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
> 1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon
>
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Re: [MBZ] I know you want this

2006-01-18 Thread V Layton






From: Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>







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This line kills me!

Very good, is it yours?

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Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Hargrave

Kaleb,

Not all of us have 30 used mirrors to choose from...

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror


uses one are much much cheaper.

Trampas wrote:

> I have several doing the same thing, I assumed it was glue. I even had the
> mirror on the 85 300SD break, well the plastic on the back of mirror broke
> such that spring for the night/day mode came out. $70 and a call to Rusty
> fixed it.
>
> Trampas
>
>

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[MBZ] Non MB : Windows Media Player

2006-01-18 Thread Howard Fulford

Listers

I want to use Windows Media Player to create a random selection from my
music library, then load those MP3 music files onto an MP3 player

I know how to create a 'random' playlist with I-Tunes - how do I do it with
Media Player ?


All help much appreciated


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Bath
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Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

The PO of our 1985 300CD told us the same story to explain the $5,300 engine
replacement, so I believe it.

On 1/18/06, Terry Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think one thing that may cause an early engine replacement is the
> exposed
> oil pan on a 123.  I looked at a 240D last year and the claim was it had a
> new engine at 150k because the previous owner ran over something in the
> road
> and punctured the oil pan.
>
> Terry Geiger
> http://www.shoalsbritishcars.org
> '74 Triumph TR6 (my sunny day car)
> '63 Triumph Herald (wife's sunny day car)
> '84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel (wife's car)
> '90 Chevy S10 (parts fetcher)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D
>
>
> > Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after
> 150k,
> > but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D when
> I
> > bought it. What up???
> >
> > Brian
> > 83 240D
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD

2006-01-18 Thread V Layton


Perhaps he means it's fast enough to outrun the Reaper on his skateboard?



From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:56:37 -0700

I'm still trying to figure out what a "deathbeater" is...seller mentions it
in response to a question.

Bob Rentfro

- Original Message -
From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD


> Wow! That is a nice one. The reserve is already met at $2125?  It only
> has 174,000. Unless the pictures are really misleading I would have
> thought this car would go over $4-5K.
>
>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

Amen. Very well put, John.

:)

+dm

> --
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:39:14 -0500
> From: John Ervine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
>
> Tom Hargrave wrote:
> > Wonder what happens to THOSE cats??
>
> If you are attempting to justify ethlyene glycol poisoning as a moral 
> equivalent
> to euthanization as a means of population control, I think you've missed the 
> point.
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD

I'm still trying to decode the "green" exterior color, which looks every
shade of anything BUT green in the photos.

On 1/18/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm still trying to figure out what a "deathbeater" is...seller mentions
> it
> in response to a question.
>
> Bob Rentfro
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD
>
>
> > Wow! That is a nice one. The reserve is already met at $2125?  It only
> > has 174,000. Unless the pictures are really misleading I would have
> > thought this car would go over $4-5K.
> >
> >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4606029223
> > &sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 300CD

Relative to the 300CD turbodiesel coupes of later vintage (1982 - 1985), the
plain diesel 300CD (1978 0- 1980) had a much nicer burlwood (not zebrano)
dash.

On 1/18/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Upgrade?

On 1/18/06, Roger Conlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The rims are a 7.5Jx16H  ET23.
> It's about a 3hr drive one way to pick them up.
>
> Roger

Going to mount them there and drive 3 hours back with new rims rubbing?

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Re: [MBZ] I know you want this

On 1/18/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I happen to have a stout Ford V8 that I am uncertain as to what to do
> with, BUT I do not think I will put it in my poor old Benz. Now on the other
> hand, if I had a spare diesel Benz motor I might be tempted to try to put it
> in an old Chevy pickup that I also have sitting around doing not much at the
> moment. I know it might be a bit underpowered but the idea appeals somehow.
>
> Randy

I ran across a fairly well gutted Wrangler (engine wise) a couple
weeks back. Still had the rear end, but I would have had to find a
transfer case. Kept thinking the same thing. "Wonder how a MB Diesel
Jeep would make the DaimlerChrysler purists roll in their Cudas?"

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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Hargrave

Neither.

My point is was everything was a joke, period.


But we do have a cat overpopulation problem in this country and it's to the
point where municipalities are gathering and destroying cats, all at the
taxpayers expense.

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-Original Message-
From: John Ervine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make


Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Wonder what happens to THOSE cats??

If you are attempting to justify ethlyene glycol poisoning as a moral
equivalent
to euthanization as a means of population control, I think you've missed the
point.

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1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi

[MBZ] Maintenance items on 126 -- M103

2006-01-18 Thread Donald Snook

I will be flying out to Tampa this Friday for my Rendezvous with my new
car.  The seller is meeting me at the airport. He will have title in
hand and I will have check to present to him.  Here's is my question.
Where is the fuel filter on a M103?  Is it as easy to change as on the
diesels - i.e. spin on?  The spark plugs are probably fairly accessible
given the fact that it is a straight six.  Any weird maintenance quirks
I need to know about the M103 or the 126?  Things like coolant flushes,
power steering fluid changes, transmission fluid changes, and brakes
will be fairly standard, so I won't have to (get to) learn anything new
about that.   I just thought about it, I have no idea where the oil
filter is? Is it as much of a pain as on the 123/124 diesels?   Any
thoughts would be great? 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 122K arriving soon

1992 Olds 98 Regency 121K For Sale

Re: [MBZ] OT - diesel-driven mobility scooter

If / When I see the thing again (moved to opposite sides of town a
couple years ago) I'll try to get a pic of it.

On 1/18/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ed Booher wrote:
> > The truly sick and perverted thing is, here in Indy, there is a Chevy
> > S-10 running around with a full 123 front end. I'm not sure how he got
> > all the parts to match up, or got the wiring to work. It's truly a
> > thing of ugly.
> >
>
> That's so sick and wrong.  I like it.
>


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Re: [MBZ] Early engine replacement - was Columbus CL 240D

2006-01-18 Thread Terry Geiger

I think one thing that may cause an early engine replacement is the exposed 
oil pan on a 123.  I looked at a 240D last year and the claim was it had a 
new engine at 150k because the previous owner ran over something in the road 
and punctured the oil pan.


Terry Geiger
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'74 Triumph TR6 (my sunny day car)
'63 Triumph Herald (wife's sunny day car)
'84 Mercedes 300D Turbo Diesel (wife's car)
'90 Chevy S10 (parts fetcher)


- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D



Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after 150k,
but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D when I
bought it. What up???

Brian
83 240D

Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

I just heard about someone (have to look this up) who rigged a motion
detector, high pressure water, and aiming devices to squirt gophers
automatically in his back yard. It got rid of them. The water would
both deter the cat, and wash the prints off!

On 1/18/06, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I CO2 powered pellet gun does wonders..
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Rentfro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
>
>
> I don't have to worry about the cold...although it did get to 31 degrees
> last night (and she started right up...).
> What spins me up is the stupid neighbor's cat. I hate to have paw prints on
> my car.
>
> Bob Rentfro
> '77 300D 148K
> '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K (CLEAN AGAIN!)
> Litchfield Park, AZ
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
>
>
> > We don't have that problem down here
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom Hargrave
> > 256-656-1924
> > www.kegkits.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LT Don
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:30 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
> >
> >
> > 240D cranked a little slow when I was going home from work yesterday. No
> > problem, I told myself, just slap on the battery charger overnight.
> >
> > When I got home, parked the car outside intending to put it in the garage
> > (and attach the battery charger) after supper. Got involved in a three
> > hour
> > household project and forgot all about the car.
> >
> > Walked out of the house and into the garage at 7:30 this morning. "Hey,
> > where's my car?"  Oooops, it was outside in mid-teen temps with a non-100%
> > battery. Glow plug light didn't come on, either (a common problem when the
> > car is really cold).
> >
> > So ... before walking to my office (just a few blocks) I hooked up the
> > battery charger!
> >
> > Note to self -- put the car in the garage immediately after arriving at
> > the
> > house, especially in the winter.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 1977 240D
> > 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
> > 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T


Does the 1994/95 'facelifted' trunk on the 124 look any better to
you? I think it looks a LOT nicer than the 1986-93 versions. Note that


I'm not sure.  The offense to my eye is the 'low-entry' trunk
style, especially when coupled with the angled rear opening
and the associated cat's-eye taillights.  And right now nearly
_everything_ is that way.  Ugh.


I only look at mine from the front - can't see the rear end that way!


Sadly that doesn't work for me, I always see the rear in the garage.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

Or at least wait till Moose Friday --

On 1/18/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/18/06, John Ervine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, but you are a sadistic asshole for advocating the poisoning of animals.
> > This type of discussion - even if meant in a joking manner - has no place 
> > on a
> > list such as this.
> >
> > --
> > John L. Ervine
>
> He's right, that's what Banned is for.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel Upgrade?

2006-01-18 Thread BimotaBiker


Roger,

I put a set of stock 16" S Class wheels from a 2003 model on my 1985 300D.  You 
can find a set of 4 complete with tires on Ebay for 3-400 dollars depending 
upon the condition of the tires.  My fitment required a set of adapters which I 
also found on Ebay.  The seller's name was something like "Ernie's".  Everybody 
that sees it comments on how good it looks.  Some have even asked if it was a 
new car!  It was the best $600.00 I spent in a while.

-Scott   






-- Original Message --
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Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:  Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:29:37 -0600

>Any opinions of these style and size wheels/rims for a upgrade 15" to 16"
>on 126 300SDL?
>To high priced?
>
>Ebay Item # 8030036342
>
>Thanks
>Roger
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Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D

Sort of contradictory to say that the engine needed replacing after 150k, 
but these engines run forever. I ran into this claim about my 240D when I 
bought it. What up???

Brian
83 240D

From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Columbus CL 240D
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:55:32 -0500

Rick Knoble wrote:
>
> http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/126140059.html

Hey Sunil!

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[MBZ] Wheel Upgrade?

2006-01-18 Thread Roger Conlon

The rims are a 7.5Jx16H  ET23.
It's about a 3hr drive one way to pick them up.

Roger

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Without knowing the offset (ET), hard to tell if they will fit or not.
The W126 takes an offset of around 25.

I bought some tires with wheels a few years ago and while the tread
was fine, they were sidewall checked and lasted only about a year
before I had an internal separation. Wouldn't do it again.

Price seems OK for now but the shipping seems awfully high.

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> Any opinions of these style and size wheels/rims for a upgrade 15" to 
16"

> on 126 300SDL?
> To high priced?
>
> Ebay Item # 8030036342
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Re: [MBZ] Euro light level control (was: CR headlight bulbs)

I found the original page I was referring to, thanks to archive.org...
but the photos, and linked pages, are gone. The main text, with part
numbers, is still there:

http://tinyurl.com/ccsrs

:)

+dm

On 1/18/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's an interesting problem, one that I've thought of but don't
> often encounter here in the flatlands. On a W124, there is a factory
> solution - the "light range" adjuster. This is a rotary dial next to
> the headlight switch, with 4 level positions. The idea is that with
> the car fully loaded, the rear end sags and the lights will be too
> high. So you turn them down with the rotary dial! Neat idea, eh?
> That's why the factory Euro light assmblies have a vacuum connection
> for the diaphragm inside.
>
> I've been using my Euro lights without this system hooked up, but just
> this week I finally got around to installing the level/range adjusting
> system. Basically this involves pulling 3 vacuum tubes (source, left,
> and right) and plugging them into the switch, and new trim bezel. It's
> a lot easier with the dash removed (I was changing the ACC vac pods).
> I'll post photos when it's done. Parts needed are the rotary
> switch/dial, trim bezel, and assorted vacuum plumbing.
>
> Schematics, and some more info, is on the 124 CD-ROM, section 82-4011.
> There used to be a nice writeup on the web for the 124 level control
> installation, but it appears to be gone now. Here's a different one,
> not as good, scroll to the bottom of the page:
>
> http://www.mbca.org/pages/Star/articles/w124.htm
>
> I plan to set the '1' position as normal, allowing a 'high' position
> and two 'lower' positions. Note there's a different switch (and specs)
> for cars with SLS.
>
> The same setup is available for the W123, btw, the part numbers are in
> the Euro EPC. Won't work with the 'round' headlights, of course.
>
> :-)
>
> -Dave M.
>
> > --
> > Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:16:55 -0800
> > From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs
> >
> > > them.  But the long-time Benz gurus here in Seattle have declared them
> > > inappropriate for our area here because of the hills around here.  The
> > > sharp upper cutoff in the pattern either leaves the driver blind when
> > > climbing hills or blinds the oncoming traffic when descending, or
> > > both.  And that is exactly what happens.  With low beams we get
> > > flashed by oncoming drivers going uphill, but the pattern is on spec
> > > and is scary enough on hills without lowering it further.   The old
> > > DOT headlights don't have that problem.
> >
> > That is certainly an issue.  I spent quite a bit of time dialing
> > in the SL's aiming, and it's definitely a compromise.  The old
> > DOT light pattern would have been acceptable, because what I was
> > really after was killer high beam performance.  But that is not
> > the lights I got.  I would also have preferred stock low-beam
> > wattage (100/50 or whatever), but that also is not what NAPA had.
> >
> > -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

Sounds like the twin to my '90. I think you'll love it.
FWIW - the interior is "mushroom".

On 1/18/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm now the proud owner of a 1992 MB 300D 2.5T - I'm the third owner, all
> records, smoke silver with beige MB-Tex, 286Kmi.  I'm taking delivery this
> weekend.
>

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'90 300D 243K, '87 300SDL 290K,  '81 240D 173K,  '78 450SLC 67K, '97
Ply Grand Voyager 78K

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

I only look at minbe from the front - can't see the rear end that way!

>
> Congratulations!  If the trunk of a 124 wasn't so frickin' ugly
> I'd be really envious.  (124 wagons are not so cursed, so they
> really draw my eye.)
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

2006-01-18 Thread John Ervine


Tom Hargrave wrote:

Wonder what happens to THOSE cats??


If you are attempting to justify ethlyene glycol poisoning as a moral equivalent 
to euthanization as a means of population control, I think you've missed the point.


--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

Jim,

Does the 1994/95 'facelifted' trunk on the 124 look any  better to
you? I think it looks a LOT nicer than the 1986-93 versions. Note that
from 1991-93 (I think), there was an insert panel that makes the early
ones look almost like the 94/95.

:)

-dm

> --
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:31:14 -0800
> From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T
>
>
> Congratulations!  If the trunk of a 124 wasn't so frickin' ugly
> I'd be really envious.  (124 wagons are not so cursed, so they
> really draw my eye.)
>
> -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] I know you want this

2006-01-18 Thread Rich Thomas

You buy that car and you be gittin lots of Huggy Bear hugs and lovin

--R

Rory wrote:

See can't you just feel the love here, nobody gets any slack cut here.
What a great list.

On 1/18/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK smartasses I scanned an ad and it did not go through. I have done
that before and it did go through. I guess that is not allowed anymore.

Anyway, this is what you really really want, was in the Houston paper
the last coupla weeks:

67 Mercedes 4 Dr with Ford V/8. Custom Purple. $4500 (281) 235-4989

http://secure.adpay.com/clicknbuy.aspx?pid=567045624158574461682F6D2B5175416556506635513D3D&adid=20519473

--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

WOW that was what I wanted.

Rich Thomas wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

Congrats, Sunil! I can see Kaleb turning green already.

=)

+dm

> --
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:21:30 -0800
> From: Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T
>
>
> I'm now the proud owner of a 1992 MB 300D 2.5T - I'm the third owner, all
> records, smoke silver with beige MB-Tex, 286Kmi.  I'm taking delivery this
> weekend.
>
> --
> Sunil Hari

Re: [MBZ] I know you want this

Well, I happen to have a stout Ford V8 that I am uncertain as to what to do
with, BUT I do not think I will put it in my poor old Benz. Now on the other
hand, if I had a spare diesel Benz motor I might be tempted to try to put it
in an old Chevy pickup that I also have sitting around doing not much at the
moment. I know it might be a bit underpowered but the idea appeals somehow.

Randy

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OK smartasses I scanned an ad and it did not go through.  I have done
that before and it did go through.  I guess that is not allowed anymore.

Anyway, this is what you really really want, was in the Houston paper
the last coupla weeks:

67 Mercedes 4 Dr with Ford V/8. Custom Purple. $4500  (281) 235-4989

http://secure.adpay.com/clicknbuy.aspx?pid=567045624158574461682F6D2B5175416
556506635513D3D&adid=20519473

--R

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>WOW that was what I wanted.
>
>Rich Thomas wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs

That's an interesting problem, one that I've thought of but don't
often encounter here in the flatlands. On a W124, there is a factory
solution - the "light range" adjuster. This is a rotary dial next to
the headlight switch, with 4 level positions. The idea is that with
the car fully loaded, the rear end sags and the lights will be too
high. So you turn them down with the rotary dial! Neat idea, eh?
That's why the factory Euro light assmblies have a vacuum connection
for the diaphragm inside.

I've been using my Euro lights without this system hooked up, but just
this week I finally got around to installing the level/range adjusting
system. Basically this involves pulling 3 vacuum tubes (source, left,
and right) and plugging them into the switch, and new trim bezel. It's
a lot easier with the dash removed (I was changing the ACC vac pods).
I'll post photos when it's done. Parts needed are the rotary
switch/dial, trim bezel, and assorted vacuum plumbing.

Schematics, and some more info, is on the 124 CD-ROM, section 82-4011.
There used to be a nice writeup on the web for the 124 level control
installation, but it appears to be gone now. Here's a different one,
not as good, scroll to the bottom of the page:

http://www.mbca.org/pages/Star/articles/w124.htm

I plan to set the '1' position as normal, allowing a 'high' position
and two 'lower' positions. Note there's a different switch (and specs)
for cars with SLS.

The same setup is available for the W123, btw, the part numbers are in
the Euro EPC. Won't work with the 'round' headlights, of course.

:-)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 10:16:55 -0800
> From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] CR report on headlight bulbs
>
> > them.  But the long-time Benz gurus here in Seattle have declared them
> > inappropriate for our area here because of the hills around here.  The
> > sharp upper cutoff in the pattern either leaves the driver blind when
> > climbing hills or blinds the oncoming traffic when descending, or
> > both.  And that is exactly what happens.  With low beams we get
> > flashed by oncoming drivers going uphill, but the pattern is on spec
> > and is scary enough on hills without lowering it further.   The old
> > DOT headlights don't have that problem.
>
> That is certainly an issue.  I spent quite a bit of time dialing
> in the SL's aiming, and it's definitely a compromise.  The old
> DOT light pattern would have been acceptable, because what I was
> really after was killer high beam performance.  But that is not
> the lights I got.  I would also have preferred stock low-beam
> wattage (100/50 or whatever), but that also is not what NAPA had.
>
> -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] I know you want this

2006-01-18 Thread Rory

See can't you just feel the love here, nobody gets any slack cut here.
What a great list.


On 1/18/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK smartasses I scanned an ad and it did not go through.  I have done
> that before and it did go through.  I guess that is not allowed anymore.
>
> Anyway, this is what you really really want, was in the Houston paper
> the last coupla weeks:
>
> 67 Mercedes 4 Dr with Ford V/8. Custom Purple. $4500  (281) 235-4989
>
> http://secure.adpay.com/clicknbuy.aspx?pid=567045624158574461682F6D2B5175416556506635513D3D&adid=20519473
>
> --R
>
> Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> >WOW that was what I wanted.
> >
> >Rich Thomas wrote:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Hargrave

Not your fault - I started this one with my "CO2 powered pellet gun"
comment, which I still think is funny. It's just a shame that "some" reacted
so strongly to a joke.

At least I didn't start this one with a "poison cat food" comment

On a more serious cat note - they are so prevalent around here that the city
puts out baited traps all the time and I don't see anyone lining up at the
animal shelter to adopt cats. Wonder what happens to THOSE cats?? Maybe
the member who reacted so strongly would like a few hundred shipped to his
or her house?

Thanks,
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That was very Banned-like. I should have seen it coming when I mentioned the
cat walking on my car.

BobRentfro

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> If nothing else, "we" have been treated to a small taste of what it is
> like
> to subscribe to Banned. Banned is the same thing, only different.
>
> On 1/18/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm all for jokes, but there are a lot of people who actually DO
>> demented stuff like this, not just joke about it - which is why I
>> don't find it humorous.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

2006-01-18 Thread Zeitgeist

Only jerks drive those cars...give it to me.

Casey
Olympia, WA
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Re: [MBZ] OT - diesel-driven mobility scooter

"Emulation is the sincerest form of flattery." or something like that

Randy

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Ed Booher wrote:
> The truly sick and perverted thing is, here in Indy, there is a Chevy
> S-10 running around with a full 123 front end. I'm not sure how he got
> all the parts to match up, or got the wiring to work. It's truly a
> thing of ugly.
>   

That's so sick and wrong.  I like it.


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Re: [MBZ] I know you want this

2006-01-18 Thread Rich Thomas

OK smartasses I scanned an ad and it did not go through.  I have done 
that before and it did go through.  I guess that is not allowed anymore.


Anyway, this is what you really really want, was in the Houston paper 
the last coupla weeks:


67 Mercedes 4 Dr with Ford V/8. Custom Purple. $4500  (281) 235-4989

http://secure.adpay.com/clicknbuy.aspx?pid=567045624158574461682F6D2B5175416556506635513D3D&adid=20519473

--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


WOW that was what I wanted.

Rich Thomas wrote:

 


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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

That was very Banned-like. I should have seen it coming when I mentioned the 
cat walking on my car.

BobRentfro

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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

If nothing else, "we" have been treated to a small taste of what it is 
like

to subscribe to Banned. Banned is the same thing, only different.

On 1/18/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm all for jokes, but there are a lot of people who actually DO
demented stuff like this, not just joke about it - which is why I
don't find it humorous.

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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

2006-01-18 Thread LT Don

If nothing else, "we" have been treated to a small taste of what it is like
to subscribe to Banned. Banned is the same thing, only different.

On 1/18/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm all for jokes, but there are a lot of people who actually DO
> demented stuff like this, not just joke about it - which is why I
> don't find it humorous.




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Re: [MBZ] OT - diesel-driven mobility scooter

So instead of an S-10 or a W123, I guess it would be a W123S10, or a 
WS133...a Benzolet perhaps...


Bob Rentfro


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Ed Booher wrote:

The truly sick and perverted thing is, here in Indy, there is a Chevy
S-10 running around with a full 123 front end. I'm not sure how he got
all the parts to match up, or got the wiring to work. It's truly a
thing of ugly.



That's so sick and wrong.  I like it.


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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

My solution to cat prints on the car is to keep the car so dirty that 
the cats don't want to touch it. ;)

Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD

I'm still trying to figure out what a "deathbeater" is...seller mentions it 
in response to a question.

Bob Rentfro

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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD

Wow! That is a nice one. The reserve is already met at $2125?  It only
has 174,000. Unless the pictures are really misleading I would have
thought this car would go over $4-5K.

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4606029223
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Re: [MBZ] CR report on bulbs


wilton strickland wrote:

David, where were you in the UP?   I flew B-52s at Kincheloe '71-'75; wife
attended Lake Superior State in The Soo while there.
  


I did four and a half years at Michigan Tech, in Houghton.  It's a 
beautiful area, one of my favorite parts of the world.

Re: [MBZ] barrett-jackson auction


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

actually it was a "pickup", looked like one of the buses in the front.
  


Okay.  The singlecabs and doublecabs are getting pretty rare, and I 
suppose an original one in really good condition might be worth that 
kind of money.

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T

2006-01-18 Thread l02turner


Hi Sunil -

Congatulations!!   I'm sure you;re be happy with it.  I keep looking for one 
similar - but I'd like to find one with a bad engine I can buy cheap and 
rebuild.  But they're few and far between -


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Subject: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T



I'm now the proud owner of a 1992 MB 300D 2.5T - I'm the third owner, all
records, smoke silver with beige MB-Tex, 286Kmi.  I'm taking delivery this
weekend.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - diesel-driven mobility scooter


Ed Booher wrote:

The truly sick and perverted thing is, here in Indy, there is a Chevy
S-10 running around with a full 123 front end. I'm not sure how he got
all the parts to match up, or got the wiring to work. It's truly a
thing of ugly.
  


That's so sick and wrong.  I like it.

Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD

2006-01-18 Thread Donald Snook

Wow! That is a nice one. The reserve is already met at $2125?  It only
has 174,000. Unless the pictures are really misleading I would have
thought this car would go over $4-5K. 

 

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Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make

I'm all for jokes, but there are a lot of people who actually DO
demented stuff like this, not just joke about it - which is why I
don't find it humorous. I also thing a lot of people don't realize
what a slow, excruciatlingly painful death it causes (takes several
days). It's not like it makes them peacefully go to sleep one night
and never wake up. Maybe I'm a little more touchy about it because
I've had direct personal experience with the effects of antifreeze on
an animal. Sorry if I flew off the handle. Now back to our regularly
scheduled discussions on Mobil-1 and frequent fuse replacements.

:)

-dm

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> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:10:05 -0600
> From: Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] mistakes a diesel owner should not make
>
>
> The before mentioned do not have a sense of humor. Zilch. I am telling you.
>
> On 1/18/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Jeeze Dave and Hans, it's a JOKE!  Can't we have just a touch of fun once
> > and a while?

Re: [MBZ] Wheel Upgrade?

2006-01-18 Thread Desert Rat

Without knowing the offset (ET), hard to tell if they will fit or not.
The W126 takes an offset of around 25.

I bought some tires with wheels a few years ago and while the tread
was fine, they were sidewall checked and lasted only about a year
before I had an internal separation. Wouldn't do it again.

Price seems OK for now but the shipping seems awfully high.

On 1/18/06, Roger Conlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any opinions of these style and size wheels/rims for a upgrade 15" to 16"
> on 126 300SDL?
> To high priced?
>
> Ebay Item # 8030036342
>
> Thanks
> Roger
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1992 500 SEL 140K "Stardust"
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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D 2.5T