[MBZ] O/T Spark Ignition
On 9/24/2010 9:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote: The book method is to have a remote starter button, but I'd use it so seldom that I never thought it was worth it. Kinda like a dwell meter. I always set the points by gap. When I finally got up enough jingees to afford a dwell meter, I found my gap was more accurate than the meter. SNIP Assbackwards thinking here. The performance requirement on the old systems was the degrees of dwell to saturate the coil. *The point gap was given as a reference figure* to the backyard mechanic who didn't have access to proper timing setting equipment. Back in the day', a good shop would put the distributor on a bench machine and set the dwell and timing advance. They than set the initial timing when installing the distributor. Problem, due to all the mechanics involved, the optimun settings were very short lived and you need consistent high quality fuel. My gas burners usually go 100Kmi with no ignition related maintainance. -- Pete Arnold You win some, You loose some and You wreck some! -Dale Earnhardt- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
A few years ago I bought a 240D parts car that wouldn't start. The starter would spin free, it sounded like it wasn't grabbing the ring. I wacked the starter with a hammer a few times to see if that would help, but then just took the car apart. I needed the trans for my 300D. Turned out the ring gear was loose on the flywheel... you could actually move it a bit by hand. The car only had 140,000 miles and ended up being great for parts. Paid $300, took what I needed, and sold it for $300. Jaime On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: but other than old tractors, you almost never need to. it is not that bad, just drop the trans and unbolt the flywheel. Just a matter of perspective, I guess. And I never had to do it with an auto trans the weight of those Ps of S adds to the aggravation factor for sure. on tractors, it is not that bad on IH. That is all i ever had to do, and only a couple of them On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:53:52 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I did buy a new ring gear once for something. I think maybe it was an OM621. It was not that expensive. Yes, but ... GETTING to the ring gear is a major hassle. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL) OT Caravan
Dieselhead wrote: Wonder if i can drill a hole in it and then thread in one of those self-tapping drain plugs, or even a metal building screw with the washer and neoprene seal. The plug may cause an imbalance, but I doubt the screw would cause significant imbalance.I guess I could put in 2 plugs/screws 180 degrees apart. I suppose the clearance to the vanes may be too close. Anyone cut a modern TC open? Sounds like a good way to make a leak. When a friend of mine burned the fluid in his Caravan, (one generation before yours) I changed the filter, unhooked the cooler line to the radiator, plugged the cooler line into a clear vinyl hose, and let the engine idle until the fluid coming out suddenly changed from brown to pink. Apparently it did not mix in the torque converter, the new fluid pushed out the old, and the change was obvious when the old was gone and the new started coming out. Then I hooked up an axillary cooler and adjusted the fluid level. The tranny held up for as long as they owned the van, but I think that was only a couple of years after I installed the cooler. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sprinters
Dieselhead wrote: OOH! For that, I'd jump. I heard of one for 4500 once before and it really needed to be painted., but never found one. Bottom seems to be about 8-9 k, and mostly over 11k. its a Mercedes, you know... BS. Its a truck. Here's a pile of old ones, as you said, $7-10k. http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=BI8191748D Ever see one like this? http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=11-577090 Needs more than paint, but low miles: http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=18-566767 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Spark Ignition
Peter T. Arnold wrote: My gas burners usually go 100Kmi with no ignition related maintainance. ...but I hate to leave spark plugs in an aluminum head for more than a few years. Sometimes I'll do a compression check just to have an excuse to pull the plugs and nevr-seez the threads. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
The nice thing about a tractor is you don't so much drop the trans as roll it backwards... I may actually be doing this relatively soon. I think I've stumbled on to what may be an excellent deal on a small diesel tractor with a loader and a bad clutch. Whats actually bad about it is that it never disengages... He'd been living with it like that until the starter solenoid went bad at which point he brought it to the shop. I got brought in as a tractor expert (its a motorcycle/snowmobile/4wheeler kind of shop that will take on any work) and clucked my tongue at it appropriately. I explained the only way to know what the problem was would require splitting the tractor and taking a look around. So probably 4 hours of labor just to see... He's still deciding but I told him I'd give him a grand for it as it sits. The hydraulics all work, the 2cyl diesel starts super easy and runs strong. Could be a great deal... -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:23:38 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: a06240832c8c337124...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed but other than old tractors, you almost never need to. it is not that bad, just drop the trans and unbolt the flywheel. Just a matter of perspective, I guess. And I never had to do it with an auto trans the weight of those Ps of S adds to the aggravation factor for sure. on tractors, it is not that bad on IH. That is all i ever had to do, and only a couple of them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tractors, WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
That one should not be too hard. On the old narrow front IH the only really safe way is to hang the front half from a chain hoist. then we'd block up the rear half on a roller cart . You roll the back half away from the front half. on those the front half is so top heavy that trying to block it upresults in a dangerous situation. Being a two banger, I assume it is a japanese tractor of some sort. kubota? I saw a Satoh up for auction one time. it was the size of a lawn tractor, but had full cat 1 3 point hitch. I thought it would be excellent for a tiller, if I could find a small tiller for it. I was not able to go on sale day. I think it went cheap because the trans was locked up. The nice thing about a tractor is you don't so much drop the trans as roll it backwards... I may actually be doing this relatively soon. I think I've stumbled on to what may be an excellent deal on a small diesel tractor with a loader and a bad clutch. Whats actually bad about it is that it never disengages... He'd been living with it like that until the starter solenoid went bad at which point he brought it to the shop. I got brought in as a tractor expert (its a motorcycle/snowmobile/4wheeler kind of shop that will take on any work) and clucked my tongue at it appropriately. I explained the only way to know what the problem was would require splitting the tractor and taking a look around. So probably 4 hours of labor just to see... He's still deciding but I told him I'd give him a grand for it as it sits. The hydraulics all work, the 2cyl diesel starts super easy and runs strong. Could be a great deal... -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 00:23:38 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: a06240832c8c337124...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed but other than old tractors, you almost never need to. it is not that bad, just drop the trans and unbolt the flywheel. Just a matter of perspective, I guess. And I never had to do it with an auto trans the weight of those Ps of S adds to the aggravation factor for sure. on tractors, it is not that bad on IH. That is all i ever had to do, and only a couple of them ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sprinters
Dieselhead wrote: OOH! For that, I'd jump. I heard of one for 4500 once before and it really needed to be painted., but never found one. Bottom seems to be about 8-9 k, and mostly over 11k. its a Mercedes, you know... BS. Its a truck. Here's a pile of old ones, as you said, $7-10k. http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=BI8191748D Ever see one like this? http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=11-577090 Yes, they make a nice utility truck. What is really slick is the knapheide KUV enclosed utility box. But I don't need a utility box. http://knapheide.com/products/utilityvans/kuv/default.asp?selection=productstype=utilityvans Needs more than paint, but low miles: http://www.auto-rv.com/Browse.aspx?AdName=18-566767 Ouch...but I don't want one with black paint. White or silver preferred. to me black on a sprinter is ugly. Aside from turning it into an oven... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Weird. I guess it could happen if the flywheel was machined a little out of tolerance small and was not caught in manufacturing, combined with a large end of the tolerance ring gear. My guess is that one or the other was out of tolerance. Made a good deal for you! I know there were some odd things that escaped the factory when the turks were starting to be brought in. A few years ago I bought a 240D parts car that wouldn't start. The starter would spin free, it sounded like it wasn't grabbing the ring. I wacked the starter with a hammer a few times to see if that would help, but then just took the car apart. I needed the trans for my 300D. Turned out the ring gear was loose on the flywheel... you could actually move it a bit by hand. The car only had 140,000 miles and ended up being great for parts. Paid $300, took what I needed, and sold it for $300. Jaime On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: but other than old tractors, you almost never need to. it is not that bad, just drop the trans and unbolt the flywheel. Just a matter of perspective, I guess. And I never had to do it with an auto trans the weight of those Ps of S adds to the aggravation factor for sure. on tractors, it is not that bad on IH. That is all i ever had to do, and only a couple of them On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:53:52 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I did buy a new ring gear once for something. I think maybe it was an OM621. It was not that expensive. Yes, but ... GETTING to the ring gear is a major hassle. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
SWIMBO surprised me. She snagged some used doors. I was happy because I had found homes for all the used doors I had collected over time. Now I have 3 more very heavy doors to move store and try to find a home for. But, these doors have an interesting history. They are connected to the Manhattan project. Thus the glow in the dark reference. Part of the Manhattan project was to find a way to refine uranium to sufficient purity. That was done at a national lab located at a university. It involved a lot of chemists and physicists. to house all these chemists and physicists, they built a 3 story link building between the chemistry building and the physics building. This became the offices for the highest ranking members of the project, like Dr. Wilhelm. The link also housed a special library, and relevant parts of the university library were moved there, so the scientists could have easy access to the books. It was later renamed the Physical Sciences Reading Room. The doors she snagged are the Physical Sciences reading room doors. A double set with glass panels and a book drop, and the door from the opposite end. SWIMBO want to use them in our retirement house to build a library an use these doors. No actual refining was done in this link building, so the doors never did glow in the dark. Later Nuclear Engineering moved to a separate building, the National Lab offices moved to the renamed Wilhelm Hall, and later to a new building with the acronym TASF. The link building became overflow for otherwise homeless faculty. Now the Physical Sciences Reading room is being remodeled into something else, so the old doors were being tossed. The term Glow in the Dark was actually invented in 1944 as part of the refining. The actual refining was done in a wood temporary building on the east side of campus. Nobody living knows what went on in there, but it was always said that if you went by at night, there was a strange glow coming from the building. You could see the glow through the wood. That was the only temporary building that didn't stand for 40 years. When I built my house in 1980, we used all new doors in the house, but when I finished the basement a couple of years later, I used scrounged doors with stories. The bathroom door came from the house I lived in through college. It was framed with elm that my Granpa had cut during the depression. I had double doors leading into the shop that SWIMBOs dad scrounged in Milwaukee. The double doors to the outside were from the 1909 remodel of the church my mother went to growing up. Her ancestors were in on founding the church in 1832. Unfortunately we had to leave that house after only 8 years. So, Glow in the Dark doors are a logical progression I guess. Just have to find a way to store them until we retire and find/build that retirement home ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL) OT Caravan
Ah! good idea. If the fluid/pan look bad, i will use that trick. Dieselhead wrote: Wonder if i can drill a hole in it and then thread in one of those self-tapping drain plugs, or even a metal building screw with the washer and neoprene seal. The plug may cause an imbalance, but I doubt the screw would cause significant imbalance.I guess I could put in 2 plugs/screws 180 degrees apart. I suppose the clearance to the vanes may be too close. Anyone cut a modern TC open? Sounds like a good way to make a leak. When a friend of mine burned the fluid in his Caravan, (one generation before yours) I changed the filter, unhooked the cooler line to the radiator, plugged the cooler line into a clear vinyl hose, and let the engine idle until the fluid coming out suddenly changed from brown to pink. Apparently it did not mix in the torque converter, the new fluid pushed out the old, and the change was obvious when the old was gone and the new started coming out. Then I hooked up an axillary cooler and adjusted the fluid level. The tranny held up for as long as they owned the van, but I think that was only a couple of years after I installed the cooler. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Spark Ignition
I never found a shop that had a test stand for a distributor, much less knew how to work on one. If the dist was suspect, the drill was to get a dist out of the junkyard, install new points and cond. and set the gap or dwell. The theory involves dwell, but in practice, if you set the gap right, you never need a dwell meter. I always checked the gap on several different lobes of the cam to be sure it was right. I also found that when you install a dist, if you turn the dist to the point where the gap just opens to the spec with the crank set to the timing mark, the timing is right on. you can check it with a light, but if you do this carefully, you never need a timing light or dwell meter. I invented that trick the first time I ever messed with timing, on a 69 BMW R50/2 magneto. Lots of old mechanics knew it. It saved my bacon more than once. On 9/24/2010 9:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote: The book method is to have a remote starter button, but I'd use it so seldom that I never thought it was worth it. Kinda like a dwell meter. I always set the points by gap. When I finally got up enough jingees to afford a dwell meter, I found my gap was more accurate than the meter. SNIP Assbackwards thinking here. The performance requirement on the old systems was the degrees of dwell to saturate the coil. *The point gap was given as a reference figure* to the backyard mechanic who didn't have access to proper timing setting equipment. Back in the day', a good shop would put the distributor on a bench machine and set the dwell and timing advance. They than set the initial timing when installing the distributor. Problem, due to all the mechanics involved, the optimun settings were very short lived and you need consistent high quality fuel. My gas burners usually go 100Kmi with no ignition related maintainance. -- Pete Arnold You win some, You loose some and You wreck some! -Dale Earnhardt- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sprinters
Loren: I bought a mint, one-owner, all-records Toyota Previa 1.5 years ago for $2,800, and have been extremely pleased with it for the past 30k miles. It looks and runs virtually new, and I've brought a half-ton of lumber back from maine in it getting 23.5 mpg. You might consider one of those, as since they're rwd and a bit oddball around here, they're cheap. Mine's still on its original exhaust system at 186k, uses no oil between 10k mile (synthetic) changes. Only major maintenance item since new were a master cyl and struts. I've built a camping kit for the interior with galley, bunk, porta-potty, and storage that slides in for long trips. Hope to keep it going a long time. Plenty of power-- IMO you don't need the supercharged version or the AWD. I've had a half-ton in the van, a sectional couch on the roof, and a ton behind it from here to Cedar Falls up 330/30/63, and it cruised 60 no problem (which was as fast as I tried to go) even up the truck grades and got 17 mpg for the trip. The trans is the same as the tundras, and the 138 hp 2.4 4 is quite tourquey--not a wheel-spinner, but pulls like a diesel from 2,500 to redline. On the previa list serve, there's a guy with 360k on the engine and trans, no issues, and he pulls a two ton boat with his. I took mine to the west coast and could sprint up the truck grades at 75 in third. Lots of vehicle for the money. Mid- engine, so handle quite well also. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Curt Raymond wrote: The nice thing about a tractor is you don't so much drop the trans as roll it backwards... I may actually be doing this relatively soon. I think I've stumbled on to what may be an excellent deal on a small diesel tractor with a loader and a bad clutch. Whats actually bad about it is that it never disengages... Bad linkage or hydraulics, or the disk is rust bonded to the pressure plate and/or flywheel. Get it rolling and jam the loader in the ground with the clutch pedal held down, see if the clutch breaks loose before the tires spin. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
That's a great story for Sat morning. Just think, not only would you save on lighting bills, but heating bills as well! --R On 9/25/2010 10:44 AM, Dieselhead wrote: SWIMBO surprised me. She snagged some used doors. I was happy because I had found homes for all the used doors I had collected over time. Now I have 3 more very heavy doors to move store and try to find a home for. But, these doors have an interesting history. They are connected to the Manhattan project. Thus the glow in the dark reference. Part of the Manhattan project was to find a way to refine uranium to sufficient purity. That was done at a national lab located at a university. It involved a lot of chemists and physicists. to house all these chemists and physicists, they built a 3 story link building between the chemistry building and the physics building. This became the offices for the highest ranking members of the project, like Dr. Wilhelm. The link also housed a special library, and relevant parts of the university library were moved there, so the scientists could have easy access to the books. It was later renamed the Physical Sciences Reading Room. The doors she snagged are the Physical Sciences reading room doors. A double set with glass panels and a book drop, and the door from the opposite end. SWIMBO want to use them in our retirement house to build a library an use these doors. No actual refining was done in this link building, so the doors never did glow in the dark. Later Nuclear Engineering moved to a separate building, the National Lab offices moved to the renamed Wilhelm Hall, and later to a new building with the acronym TASF. The link building became overflow for otherwise homeless faculty. Now the Physical Sciences Reading room is being remodeled into something else, so the old doors were being tossed. The term Glow in the Dark was actually invented in 1944 as part of the refining. The actual refining was done in a wood temporary building on the east side of campus. Nobody living knows what went on in there, but it was always said that if you went by at night, there was a strange glow coming from the building. You could see the glow through the wood. That was the only temporary building that didn't stand for 40 years. When I built my house in 1980, we used all new doors in the house, but when I finished the basement a couple of years later, I used scrounged doors with stories. The bathroom door came from the house I lived in through college. It was framed with elm that my Granpa had cut during the depression. I had double doors leading into the shop that SWIMBOs dad scrounged in Milwaukee. The double doors to the outside were from the 1909 remodel of the church my mother went to growing up. Her ancestors were in on founding the church in 1832. Unfortunately we had to leave that house after only 8 years. So, Glow in the Dark doors are a logical progression I guess. Just have to find a way to store them until we retire and find/build that retirement home ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:44:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: But, these doors have an interesting history. They are connected to the Manhattan project. Thus the glow in the dark reference. Interesting story. Thanks for sharing. Nobody living knows what went on in there, but it was always said that if you went by at night, there was a strange glow coming from the building. You could see the glow through the wood. That's an interesting story, too, though hardly believable. So, Glow in the Dark doors are a logical progression I guess. Just have to find a way to store them until we retire and find/build that retirement home It's interesting that your wife is wanting to hang on to things. Usually the wife is the one who wants to get rid of them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tractors, WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
I don't know what it is exactly, somebody painted it with a brush at one point so no badges are obvious. I haven't spent a ton of time on it, just a quick inspection. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:25:12 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Tractors, WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: a06240833c8c3a6b60...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed That one should not be too hard. On the old narrow front IH the only really safe way is to hang the front half from a chain hoist. then we'd block up the rear half on a roller cart . You roll the back half away from the front half. on those the front half is so top heavy that trying to block it upresults in a dangerous situation. Being a two banger, I assume it is a japanese tractor of some sort. kubota? I saw a Satoh up for auction one time. it was the size of a lawn tractor, but had full cat 1 3 point hitch. I thought it would be excellent for a tiller, if I could find a small tiller for it. I was not able to go on sale day. I think it went cheap because the trans was locked up. The nice thing about a tractor is you don't so much drop the trans as roll it backwards... I may actually be doing this relatively soon. I think I've stumbled on to what may be an excellent deal on a small diesel tractor with a loader and a bad clutch. Whats actually bad about it is that it never disengages... He'd been living with it like that until the starter solenoid went bad at which point he brought it to the shop. I got brought in as a tractor expert (its a motorcycle/snowmobile/4wheeler kind of shop that will take on any work) and clucked my tongue at it appropriately. I explained the only way to know what the problem was would require splitting the tractor and taking a look around. So probably 4 hours of labor just to see... He's still deciding but I told him I'd give him a grand for it as it sits. The hydraulics all work, the 2cyl diesel starts super easy and runs strong. Could be a great deal... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
We dragged a truck around the shop about 20 times while holding the clutch down on the tractor the truck steerer would periodically step on the brakes until the tractor's wheels slipped. I'd also heard of stuck clutch disks. So either its stuck amazingly bad, the linkage is messed up (it appears to be a manual linkage) or the throwout arm is busted. My best guess is the linkage is disconnected, it doesn't feel like anything is happening, there are no bad noises and the owner reports it worked one day and didn't work the next... -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:24:05 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: 4c9e1415.6010...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: The nice thing about a tractor is you don't so much drop the trans as roll it backwards... I may actually be doing this relatively soon. I think I've stumbled on to what may be an excellent deal on a small diesel tractor with a loader and a bad clutch. Whats actually bad about it is that it never disengages... Bad linkage or hydraulics, or the disk is rust bonded to the pressure plate and/or flywheel. Get it rolling and jam the loader in the ground with the clutch pedal held down, see if the clutch breaks loose before the tires spin. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Spark Ignition
One thought. I leave them be. If they foul as shown by bad codes, I change them. This method allows me to retain the portfolio for past president in my wallet. -Pete- On 9/25/2010 8:26 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter T. Arnold wrote: My gas burners usually go 100Kmi with no ignition related maintainance. ...but I hate to leave spark plugs in an aluminum head for more than a few years. Sometimes I'll do a compression check just to have an excuse to pull the plugs and nevr-seez the threads. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Spark Ignition
On 9/25/2010 10:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
I never found a shop that had a test stand for a distributor, much
less knew how to work on one. If the dist was suspect, the drill was
to get a dist out of the junkyard, install new points and cond. and
set the gap or dwell. The theory involves dwell, but in practice, if
you set the gap right, you never need a dwell meter. I always checked
the gap on several different lobes of the cam to be sure it was
right. I also found that when you install a dist, if you turn the
dist to the point where the gap just opens to the spec with the crank
set to the timing mark, the timing is right on. you can check it
with a light, but if you do this carefully, you never need a timing
light or dwell meter. I invented that trick the first time I ever
messed with timing, on a 69 BMW R50/2 magneto.
Did you 'invent' that system before or after Dan Quale 'invented' the
internet.
BYW; That was the manual method on air cooled VW's and a scad of other
cars.
In my area, every decent shop had a distributor machine. VERY FEW of
them used it as it was overkill for a regular tuneup. If were doing
fussy work {AKA duel point 327 350hp Chebbie}, you were not going to
get it right.
--
Pete Arnold
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-Dale Earnhardt-
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Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
I know we have a few Nukes guys here. Anyone work on a CE reactor? Please contact me of list as I have a piece of memorabilia that may be of interest, very cheap. -- Pete Arnold Faith is knowing there is an ocean because you have see a brook. -William Arthur Ward- On 9/25/2010 12:13 PM, Craig wrote: On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:44:32 -0500 Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: But, these doors have an interesting history. They are connected to the Manhattan project. Thus the glow in the dark reference. Interesting story. Thanks for sharing. Nobody living knows what went on in there, but it was always said that if you went by at night, there was a strange glow coming from the building. You could see the glow through the wood. That's an interesting story, too, though hardly believable. So, Glow in the Dark doors are a logical progression I guess. Just have to find a way to store them until we retire and find/build that retirement home It's interesting that your wife is wanting to hang on to things. Usually the wife is the one who wants to get rid of them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
Its probably the idle control relay, Im not sure where its going to be on a 107, but on a 126 its between the 2 firewalls. It will say 8zyl on it On 9/24/2010 12:27 PM, Dieselhead wrote: this car seems to idle very high when it is in neutral. It is like the high idle never goes to normal idle. When you start the engine, it goes to about 2000 rpm and stays there. When you put it into D or R, the engine slows enough to be ok. I did not check the tach, but I would say 750 to 1000. as soon as you take it out of gear, the RPMS go up to 2000. Thoroughly warmed up engine... I think I heard once that this is an electric problem to do with one or two relays. Can anyone point me to the right relays? No, blipping the throttle does not get it off the high idle. EVER. TIA Still 85 380SL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Thats how I do it. On 9/24/2010 12:46 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Does that tranny housing have the little hole at the bottom to where you get at the drain plug for the TC? I just take a longish large screwdriver and pry the TC around through the hole. Takes a few minutes but gets you there with not too hard work. --R On 9/24/2010 1:21 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Well, the oil is very dirty, and has a high amount of alum. It is not the worst I have seen. That prize belongs to a 124. By the way, that car has run fine for many 10ks since. I am still trying to find the TC drain. Bump the starter and then crawl under to see if I got lucky. No happiness so far. Wish I could find and easy way to bar over the flywheel. Screwdriver on the ring gear is tedious, but you don't have to crawl out. I don't see a way to get to the ring gear on this one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3156 - Release Date: 09/24/10 01:34:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A German singing about cars
Gary Webb AKA Gary Numan was British. Barry Wolff 2007 R500 2005 Birkin S3 2000 Range Rover HSE 4.6 1953 356 cab -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] A German singing about cars I feel safest of all... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldyx3KHOFXw No mention of Benzes specifically. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- This message was scanned by ESVA and is believed to be clean. Click here to report this message as spam. http://mail-gw.bcwolff.com/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=37A4D2830C.3E65E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A fine pair
Went out to dinner with friends last night, they drove the SL and I elected to drive Brunnhilda. It made a fine pair of Benzes. There was another newer wagon parked a few spots over, but I wanted to be next to the SL. On the way over an attractive woman in a C class passed me and honked with a thumbs up! YEEESS! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: OT Farm Tractor For Sale in WV
Thought I would give you fellows the first chance at my grand old IH 674D with IH 2255 loader. This machine has given me good service for 20 years. The first owner parked it outside on a hill above a steel mill for 15 years. Hence the lack of original paint. His widow said he had planned to build a shed for it but was always working overtme at the mill. Spear, bucket, weight rack, tire chains, manuals. 4400 hours. The engine is worn - low oil pressure after two hours. $3500. 304 686 3797. Needs a sleeve kit, maybe a cam bearing or such if you want to work it all day in hot weather. I have reduced the price accordingly, compared to the more typical $6000 - $8000 for a pretty one of this model. DIY and you will have a good old tractor cheap. Can deliver if you are within 150 miles. I have a new 4WD cab tractor. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The noblest mind the best contentment has. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 00351.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 144342 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100924/61ba8677/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 01051.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 138207 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100924/61ba8677/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 01131.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 133868 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100924/61ba8677/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 01241.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 134181 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100924/61ba8677/attachment-0003.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Repaired the TE today
Ongoing saga with gasoline smells and no visible leaks, culminating in Mother backing off the drive the other day by slipping her foot off the brake onto the gas (or so she says, the story changes with time, eh?). Upshot of the whole deal was that I got home last Thursday to find the car crossways in the drive and it won't start. I know the fuel pump was leaking, so I'd bought a new pump but hadn't gotten under there to get it in yet. So I crawled under and started in. First thing I found was that the supply line to the pump was old, felt funny, and was cracking, so I ordered a new one -- or what I thought was a new one. Got the hose, it was the one from the filter to the FI system, but the wrong one for the TE (shorter, I think). Anyway, so I ordered the tank to pump hose listed as pump to pump because I though I only had one fuel pump. So I tackle the pump replacement. Some gorilla has overtightened the outlet fitting on the check valve. I'm completely unable to unscrew the cap nut, so I have to undo all the pressure side fittings to the filter and accumulator and remove the whole pump. Naturally, the wire nuts are just barely more than finger tight, and the check valve fitting on the pump, with pressure line attached, is swinging free. Bloody gorilla turned the check valve while overtightening the pressure line fitting! No wonder it leaked. Took the pump and fitting down to the garage, unscrewed the pump from the check valve and managed to get the cap nut loose by putting the fitting in a vice. I hate idiots. Back to the car, fight for a while with the rock hard inlet fitting on the inlet side and get it all buttoned up. Huge PITA working on the gournd with gravel in your hair, naturally the wheel tracks are lower than the gravel under the car, etc. Crank it (no start) and look for leaks. Fuel pouring off the diff. Another bad hose. Give up for the night. Order the new hose, listed as pump tp pump, although I still think I have a single pump car. Wrong. Get the hose, crawl back under, and find the other fuel pump right by the tank. This time I get the fitting off without major hassles. but the hose is a bitch. Still not fully installed, I just cannot get those grommets in the hooks when I cannot see what I'm doing, so later today I'll go over to my brothers and put it up on jack stands or take it over to his buddies and put it on a lift. This would have been an easy job with some clearance underneath. Now I have the hose installed, crank for a few seconds, check and find no leaks, so I try to start it. Sorta kinda runs for a few seconds, then quits and I smell LOTS of gasoline. Back under, no leaks. H. Must be something else. Go down to the garage, get the starting fluid, pull the air filter cover, and discover that, at some time in the past, a mouse has been using it for storage. There is half a pecan shel, empty, holding the airflow sensor flap open about half an inch, no wonder it won't start! Take the housing off, clean all the crap out (the mice live on wild cherry seeds and dogwood seeds around here, Mom's car is always full of them along with pecans). How it got in there I don't know, except that I do remember finding the breather hose loose a while back, don't remember when but it's been several years, probably. Certainly that pecan wasn't from this years crop -- I don't think there are any, and they don't start to fall for another month, anyway. Cleaned it all out, lost three of the nuts for the filter cover -- must have brushed them off into the drive or something --. crank it up, and it starts after holding my food to the floor for a while. Runs better than it has for a long time, I wonder how long that pecan shell has been holding the air flow meter flap open part way? Never a dull moment, eh? Nice to have the car running and not leaking fuel, too! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repaired the TE today
'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 2:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] Repaired the TE today Ongoing saga with gasoline smells and no visible leaks, culminating in Mother backing off the drive the other day by slipping her foot off the brake onto the gas (or so she says, the story changes with time, eh?). Upshot of the whole deal was that I got home last Thursday to find the car crossways in the drive and it won't start. I know the fuel pump was leaking, so I'd bought a new pump but hadn't gotten under there to get it in yet. So I crawled under and started in. First thing I found was that the supply line to the pump was old, felt funny, and was cracking, so I ordered a new one -- or what I thought was a new one. Got the hose, it was the one from the filter to the FI system, but the wrong one for the TE (shorter, I think). Anyway, so I ordered the tank to pump hose listed as pump to pump because I though I only had one fuel pump. So I tackle the pump replacement. Some gorilla has overtightened the outlet fitting on the check valve. I'm completely unable to unscrew the cap nut, so I have to undo all the pressure side fittings to the filter and accumulator and remove the whole pump. Naturally, the wire nuts are just barely more than finger tight, and the check valve fitting on the pump, with pressure line attached, is swinging free. Bloody gorilla turned the check valve while overtightening the pressure line fitting! No wonder it leaked. Took the pump and fitting down to the garage, unscrewed the pump from the check valve and managed to get the cap nut loose by putting the fitting in a vice. I hate idiots. Back to the car, fight for a while with the rock hard inlet fitting on the inlet side and get it all buttoned up. Huge PITA working on the gournd with gravel in your hair, naturally the wheel tracks are lower than the gravel under the car, etc. Crank it (no start) and look for leaks. Fuel pouring off the diff. Another bad hose. Give up for the night. Order the new hose, listed as pump tp pump, although I still think I have a single pump car. Wrong. Get the hose, crawl back under, and find the other fuel pump right by the tank. This time I get the fitting off without major hassles. but the hose is a bitch. Still not fully installed, I just cannot get those grommets in the hooks when I cannot see what I'm doing, so later today I'll go over to my brothers and put it up on jack stands or take it over to his buddies and put it on a lift. This would have been an easy job with some clearance underneath. Now I have the hose installed, crank for a few seconds, check and find no leaks, so I try to start it. Sorta kinda runs for a few seconds, then quits and I smell LOTS of gasoline. Back under, no leaks. H. Must be something else. Go down to the garage, get the starting fluid, pull the air filter cover, and discover that, at some time in the past, a mouse has been using it for storage. There is half a pecan shel, empty, holding the airflow sensor flap open about half an inch, no wonder it won't start! Take the housing off, clean all the crap out (the mice live on wild cherry seeds and dogwood seeds around here, Mom's car is always full of them along with pecans). How it got in there I don't know, except that I do remember finding the breather hose loose a while back, don't remember when but it's been several years, probably. Certainly that pecan wasn't from this years crop -- I don't think there are any, and they don't start to fall for another month, anyway. Cleaned it all out, lost three of the nuts for the filter cover -- must have brushed them off into the drive or something --. crank it up, and it starts after holding my food to the floor for a while. Runs better than it has for a long time, I wonder how long that pecan shell has been holding the air flow meter flap open part way? Never a dull moment, eh? Nice to have the car running and not leaking fuel, too! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] R-4 Compressor seals in a 240D
Installing a new R-4 compresssor in an '83 240D. It came with 5 seals and two aluminum inserts. The insert installation seems obvious: the short insert goes in the high pressure side which has little space in the compressor, and the long insert goes in the low pressure side which has much more space. Tap the inserts in the hose block with a plastic hammer, etc. The only instructions as to which seals to use are that after tightening the hose block to the compressor there must be a 1.2 mm gap between the hose black and the compressor. Only two seals seem to stick up high enough and evenly enough that the 1.2 mm gap would result after tightening. That is with the green edged metal/rubber seal in the high pressure side and a brass edged metal/rubber seal in the low pressure side. I don't see any way the other seals could be used. This is the first compressor I've installed in a Mercedes. Am I missing something? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
Any way to check the OVP relay, other than looking at the fuse? Measure the voltage coming off of it? So the wires are fed power by the OVP relay? The computer that monitors and regulates idle speed is powered by the OVP. The computer (idle speed 'relay') powers the valve. So if I could figure out which one is supposed to be hot, then jump +12v to it, then the idle slows down, Usually if you power the idle actuator separately the engine dies. It needs _some_ air at idle! Don't try to push power in while the relay is connected. Unless you maybe want to fry it. Killing the engine with the actuator is one way to test its ability to cork off all the way. gets a heat signal from somewhere to close the circuit Not that simple. There's a microcontroller in there. It eats the tach signal and the idle throttle switch, and modulates the PWM duty cycle to the idle actuator to keep the idle RPM in spec. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
On my first MB, the 190Dc, soon after I bought it, I pushed in the clutch at a RR crossing, and it didn't go out of gear. Turned out the throwout had seized sometime before. Each time you pushed the clutch, the throwout wore on the pressure plate arms. That day the arms wore through, so the throwout bearing went past the arms. No clutch. Being a torquey Diesel, after I had shut it down to stop, I put the car in first and cranked the starter. We took off in first, then I was able to speed match and gear jam to get into second and then third. I got it home. I don't suspect the tractor has this problem, but it is something to be aware of, depending on the spring design I think Mitch's suggestion of rust bonding may be the winning suggestion. On the dogde caravans, the rear wheel drum brake shoed are metallic. When it is rainy and humid, the shoes rust weld to the drums amazingly hard. This spring after the snow all melted, After rocking and dragging back and forth didn't break loose the rust welds, I finally decided to go fo' broke (a phrase from the Hawaiians in WWII Italian combat theater) and drag the wheels out the driveway and hope hitting the bump across the gutter fast would break them loose. I drug the tires squealing out the drive, across the gutter and across the street, 75 ft or more, and only got one wheel loose. I was really stumped, but I had to get the van out of the street. So I put it in D (for Drag) and gunned it to drag it back into the garage. When it bounced the gutter the second time, the other one finally broke loose. The first time I encountered this with the fist caravan, I took off the tire and beat on the drum with the 10 pounder BFH until I was sure I was going to break the drum off then take off the shoes and trash the whole thing. It finally broke loose after a LOT of beating. Point being, that rust bonding can be very strong. I generally keep not so good tires on the rear so I don't ruin good tires when this happens, and for safety, the best tires should always be on the front axle. Curt Raymond wrote: The nice thing about a tractor is you don't so much drop the trans as roll it backwards... I may actually be doing this relatively soon. I think I've stumbled on to what may be an excellent deal on a small diesel tractor with a loader and a bad clutch. Whats actually bad about it is that it never disengages... Bad linkage or hydraulics, or the disk is rust bonded to the pressure plate and/or flywheel. Get it rolling and jam the loader in the ground with the clutch pedal held down, see if the clutch breaks loose before the tires spin. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A German singing about cars
Barry wrote: Gary Webb AKA Gary Numan was British. Yes - I saw that. There was an interview with Numan on youtube from a Brit tv talk show. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:44:32 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: But, these doors have an interesting history. They are connected to the Manhattan project. Thus the glow in the dark reference. Interesting story. Thanks for sharing. I figured it was a good bit of story for a Saturday, and the AMAZING part is it was SWMBO's idea! Nobody living knows what went on in there, but it was always said that if you went by at night, there was a strange glow coming from the building. You could see the glow through the wood. That's an interesting story, too, though hardly believable. That is what I thought the first time also. But over the years I have heard it from many people who were first hand witnesses, so I tend to believe it. at least weird light and coming through cracks in the walls. One of my Alumni Marching Band friends is the daughter of Dr. Wilhelm. She is about as credible of a source as anyone still alive now. She was a teenager or in college at the time. So, Glow in the Dark doors are a logical progression I guess. Just have to find a way to store them until we retire and find/build that retirement home It's interesting that your wife is wanting to hang on to things. Usually the wife is the one who wants to get rid of them. Yeah, I was shocked. Especially since we have both been happy that over the summer I have used up doors and lumber I have had stashed in the garage for years. I really don't want them, but she dreamed up this library idea. She's been watching too many BBC shows I guess. (and reading 84 Charing Cross road too many times) IF your local Libary has the dvds of the BBC program The English R.M. TV show, I highly recommend it. It is a hilarious weaving of english customs, Irish customs, Blarney, cons, horses, hunting and true history. And of course we have been watching Rumpole, the origin of SWMBO. My wife finally figured out what Rumpole was muttering this summer. She Who Must BE Obeyed! That was interesting! If I can ever get my handrail built to finish the 2001 addition to the house done, I will have more junk out of the garage. The goal is to consolidate, inventory and organize all the MB parts I have scattered all over creation. Then I can start on the 2 OM616 engines, hoping to make one that will propel the 80 4 speed. 123 240D (UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE ME A OM602 TURBO IN THE MEANTIME) KALEB... WHAT WAS THAT YOU SAID ABOUT THINNING THE HERD? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
AHA! Sounds like an easy CHEAP fix. We dragged a truck around the shop about 20 times while holding the clutch down on the tractor the truck steerer would periodically step on the brakes until the tractor's wheels slipped. I'd also heard of stuck clutch disks. So either its stuck amazingly bad, the linkage is messed up (it appears to be a manual linkage) or the throwout arm is busted. My best guess is the linkage is disconnected, it doesn't feel like anything is happening, there are no bad noises and the owner reports it worked one day and didn't work the next... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
Thanks for the clue. I may be sending you an email to see if you have one for sale. Or maybe that realy and an OVP relay. Now I think I have all the pieses out together to understand how it is supposed to funtion, how to find the parts, and how to diagnose it Man~ana.(mon-yon-a) Kaleb sez: Its probably the idle control relay, Im not sure where its going to be on a 107, but on a 126 its between the 2 firewalls. It will say 8zyl on it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Spark Ignition
On 9/25/2010 10:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I never found a shop that had a test stand for a distributor, much less knew how to work on one. If the dist was suspect, the drill was to get a dist out of the junkyard, install new points and cond. and set the gap or dwell. The theory involves dwell, but in practice, if you set the gap right, you never need a dwell meter. I always checked the gap on several different lobes of the cam to be sure it was right. I also found that when you install a dist, if you turn the dist to the point where the gap just opens to the spec with the crank set to the timing mark, the timing is right on. you can check it with a light, but if you do this carefully, you never need a timing light or dwell meter. I invented that trick the first time I ever messed with timing, on a 69 BMW R50/2 magneto. Did you 'invent' that system before or after Dan Quale 'invented' the internet. I figured it out on my own based on reading how you were supposed to do it with tools I'd never have. I did that a lot with MBs and BMW back in the 70s. Just because I was not the first to invent the system doesn't mean I didn't think of it independently. That was in 1970, Maybe the beginnings of DARPA, but long before what became known as the internet. And, it was albore who claimed to invent the internet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
Oh Man! Now you went and messed up what I thought I understood! I will see what I can figger out tomorrow. Whats a PWM? the PKW PWM, Of course! I know it is on a PKW, but I don't know what the PWM Is. PassWordMonitor? Ich Schpraken ze Dumkopf? Any way to check the OVP relay, other than looking at the fuse? Measure the voltage coming off of it? So the wires are fed power by the OVP relay? The computer that monitors and regulates idle speed is powered by the OVP. The computer (idle speed 'relay') powers the valve. So if I could figure out which one is supposed to be hot, then jump +12v to it, then the idle slows down, Usually if you power the idle actuator separately the engine dies. It needs _some_ air at idle! Don't try to push power in while the relay is connected. Unless you maybe want to fry it. Killing the engine with the actuator is one way to test its ability to cork off all the way. gets a heat signal from somewhere to close the circuit Not that simple. There's a microcontroller in there. It eats the tach signal and the idle throttle switch, and modulates the PWM duty cycle to the idle actuator to keep the idle RPM in spec. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Aimed a light at the hole in the housing and put a computer camera on a block under the car. Sat in the car with a laptop and kept tapping the starter until I could see the drain plug. Went back under the car with a wrench and a pan, drained the ATF, pulled everything out. Done in two trips under the car. Gerry '83 300D - Rich Thomas wrote: Does that tranny housing have the little hole at the bottom to where you get at the drain plug for the TC? I just take a longish large screwdriver and pry the TC around through the hole. Takes a few minutes but gets you there with not too hard. --R On 9/24/2010 1:21 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Well, the oil is very dirty, and has a high amount of alum. It is not the worst I have seen. That prize belongs to a 124. By the way, that car has run fine for many 10ks since. I am still trying to find the TC drain. Bump the starter and then crawl under to see if I got lucky. No happiness so far. Wish I could find and easy way to bar over the flywheel. Screwdriver on the ring gear is tedious, but you don't have to crawl out. I don't see a way to get to the ring gear on this one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Port holes
Just saw a Dodge Magnum with 3 Buick port holes on each front fender; 'also had ridiculously big chrome wheels. I had to look away and breath slowly through my nose. ;)) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
ATTABOY! Leave it to the young kids to come up with a technological solution! I did think of a remote camera, but i don't have one available here. I was thinking of something more expesnsive, like a borescope. Aimed a light at the hole in the housing and put a computer camera on a block under the car. Sat in the car with a laptop and kept tapping the starter until I could see the drain plug. Went back under the car with a wrench and a pan, drained the ATF, pulled everything out. Done in two trips under the car. Gerry '83 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
A double ATTABOY for Gerry! As long as the list youngsters are talking about cheap technology replacing older expensive technology. Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. As an alternative, maybe a light or fiber light trnsmitter could be snaked in through the same hole if the camera was small enough. A source for a fiber light transmitter would be good too. On my 80 240D 4 speed project, I'd like to inspect the bores of the supposedly good engine before I stick it in the car. Borescopes are expensive and something that McParts doesnt rent. I don't mind pulling prechambers since I have my homemade JD70 wristpin slammer slide hammer prechamber puller and my homemade prechamber ring wrench Curt? anyone else? If anyone has a NOS 616 headgasket laying around, I can skip this step. But I am trying to cheap out of spending 70-80 bucks on a headgasket just to take a look inside. Aimed a light at the hole in the housing and put a computer camera on a block under the car. Sat in the car with a laptop and kept tapping the starter until I could see the drain plug. Went back under the car with a wrench and a pan, drained the ATF, pulled everything out. Done in two trips under the car. Gerry '83 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Port holes
What was PT Barnum's saying? No one ever went broke underestimating the public's taste. Just saw a Dodge Magnum with 3 Buick port holes on each front fender; 'also had ridiculously big chrome wheels. I had to look away and breath slowly through my nose. ;)) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
That is just amazing. Way to go Gerry. Harry 86 300 SDL - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A Aimed a light at the hole in the housing and put a computer camera on a block under the car. Sat in the car with a laptop and kept tapping the starter until I could see the drain plug. Went back under the car with a wrench and a pan, drained the ATF, pulled everything out. Done in two trips under the car. Gerry '83 300D - Rich Thomas wrote: Does that tranny housing have the little hole at the bottom to where you get at the drain plug for the TC? I just take a longish large screwdriver and pry the TC around through the hole. Takes a few minutes but gets you there with not too hard. --R On 9/24/2010 1:21 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Well, the oil is very dirty, and has a high amount of alum. It is not the worst I have seen. That prize belongs to a 124. By the way, that car has run fine for many 10ks since. I am still trying to find the TC drain. Bump the starter and then crawl under to see if I got lucky. No happiness so far. Wish I could find and easy way to bar over the flywheel. Screwdriver on the ring gear is tedious, but you don't have to crawl out. I don't see a way to get to the ring gear on this one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:39:07 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I figured it was a good bit of story for a Saturday, and the AMAZING part is it was SWMBO's idea! Hang on to her. That is what I thought the first time also. But over the years I have heard it from many people who were first hand witnesses, so I tend to believe it. at least weird light and coming through cracks in the walls. You could get wierd light coming through the walls and not cracks, but the radiation level would be so high no one anywhere near would not live for long. IF your local Libary has the dvds of the BBC program The English R.M. TV show, I highly recommend it. It is a hilarious weaving of english customs, Irish customs, Blarney, cons, horses, hunting and true history. I'll have to look that up. Then I can start on the 2 OM616 engines, hoping to make one that will propel the 80 4 speed. 123 240D (UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE ME A OM602 TURBO IN THE MEANTIME) I have an OM616 that was running when I took it out of our '82 240D to replace the broken auto transmission with a stick shift and replace the OM616 with an OM617 to turn it into a 240D/3.0. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repaired the TE today
gassers are a PITA aren't they? What year is the TE? Is it a 124? I had similar findings a couple of years ago with daughter's 107. Had smelled since she got it. no leaks. on it, there was a short chunk of big hose, like 5/8 from the tank to the filter/pump unit. Then a hard tubing between the filter and pump, then a short chunk of gas line to the hard tubing into the engine compartment. The big hose disintegrated. To keep the car going for a week until the proper hose arrived from Rusty, I put in a chunk of heater hose. When the hose came, (I had to order a meter to get 3), it was not the original stuff with lots of braid inside and out, but just rubber with a few strands like heater hose. But it had the star on it OE stuff now. Anyhow, if anyone with gassers needs to replace the fuel pump hose, I will make you a deal for 3 or whatever you need. I think it was something like $27 for the meter length. I shoulda just bought some at FLAPS or a industrial hose shop. I was hoping for hose that will last another 20 years. Maybe this will. It sure looks like 5 year FLAPS heater hose. The secret is in the rubber compound and its resistance to fuel and additives and resistance to oxidation. THe smell was from the big hose seeping. Never dripping, just seepage. Ongoing saga with gasoline smells and no visible leaks, culminating in Mother backing off the drive the other day by slipping her foot off the brake onto the gas (or so she says, the story changes with time, eh?). Upshot of the whole deal was that I got home last Thursday to find the car crossways in the drive and it won't start. I know the fuel pump was leaking, so I'd bought a new pump but hadn't gotten under there to get it in yet. So I crawled under and started in. First thing I found was that the supply line to the pump was old, felt funny, and was cracking, so I ordered a new one -- or what I thought was a new one. Got the hose, it was the one from the filter to the FI system, but the wrong one for the TE (shorter, I think). Anyway, so I ordered the tank to pump hose listed as pump to pump because I though I only had one fuel pump. So I tackle the pump replacement. Some gorilla has overtightened the outlet fitting on the check valve. I'm completely unable to unscrew the cap nut, so I have to undo all the pressure side fittings to the filter and accumulator and remove the whole pump. Naturally, the wire nuts are just barely more than finger tight, and the check valve fitting on the pump, with pressure line attached, is swinging free. Bloody gorilla turned the check valve while overtightening the pressure line fitting! No wonder it leaked. Took the pump and fitting down to the garage, unscrewed the pump from the check valve and managed to get the cap nut loose by putting the fitting in a vice. I hate idiots. Back to the car, fight for a while with the rock hard inlet fitting on the inlet side and get it all buttoned up. Huge PITA working on the gournd with gravel in your hair, naturally the wheel tracks are lower than the gravel under the car, etc. Crank it (no start) and look for leaks. Fuel pouring off the diff. Another bad hose. Give up for the night. Order the new hose, listed as pump tp pump, although I still think I have a single pump car. Wrong. Get the hose, crawl back under, and find the other fuel pump right by the tank. This time I get the fitting off without major hassles. but the hose is a bitch. Still not fully installed, I just cannot get those grommets in the hooks when I cannot see what I'm doing, so later today I'll go over to my brothers and put it up on jack stands or take it over to his buddies and put it on a lift. This would have been an easy job with some clearance underneath. Now I have the hose installed, crank for a few seconds, check and find no leaks, so I try to start it. Sorta kinda runs for a few seconds, then quits and I smell LOTS of gasoline. Back under, no leaks. H. Must be something else. Go down to the garage, get the starting fluid, pull the air filter cover, and discover that, at some time in the past, a mouse has been using it for storage. There is half a pecan shel, empty, holding the airflow sensor flap open about half an inch, no wonder it won't start! Take the housing off, clean all the crap out (the mice live on wild cherry seeds and dogwood seeds around here, Mom's car is always full of them along with pecans). How it got in there I don't know, except that I do remember finding the breather hose loose a while back, don't remember when but it's been several years, probably. Certainly that pecan wasn't from this years crop -- I don't think there are any, and they don't start to fall for another month, anyway. Cleaned it all out, lost three of the nuts for the filter cover -- must have brushed them off into the drive or something --. crank it up, and it starts after
Re: [MBZ] Nother 107 gasser Q (380SL)
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:59:52 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Oh Man! Now you went and messed up what I thought I understood! I will see what I can figger out tomorrow. Whats a PWM? the PKW PWM, Of course! I know it is on a PKW, but I don't know what the PWM Is. PassWordMonitor? Ich Schpraken ze Dumkopf? Ja, du sprichts wie ein Dumkopf. PWM = Pulse Width Modulation It's a standard way to vary the average signal to something while reducing power dissipation in the switch by having it only totally on or totally off. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
I generally keep not so good tires on the rear so I don't ruin good tires when this happens, and for safety, the best tires should always be on the front axle. There is an on-going debate about this. If you have poor tires on the rear, the rear will have less traction and will break loose earlier than the front. This will cause massive oversteer that some drivers are not able to handle. The other way around, you get understeer, which is inherently easier to handle. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Dieselhead wrote: Then I can start on the 2 OM616 engines, hoping to make one that will propel the 80 4 speed. 123 240D (UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE ME A OM602 Bring a trailer here and take the '81 engine here? It was a good runner when rust put it on the sidelines. And, rust will take it to the recycle, sooner rather than later to appease the woman here. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Port holes
I saw some sort of pimped SUV go by the other day, it had 5 portholes (when 3 just won't do!). This seems to be the style among certain demographic cohorts. --R On 9/25/2010 4:45 PM, WILTON wrote: Just saw a Dodge Magnum with 3 Buick port holes on each front fender; 'also had ridiculously big chrome wheels. I had to look away and breath slowly through my nose. ;)) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
You know, I had this idea a few years ago, to make a cheap cam like that for hobbyists, cars, etc. and never really pursued it. I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. --R On 9/25/2010 8:17 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
I used to work with a guy who claimed to have worked at one of the nuke labs back in the 50s. Someone in a class was demonstrating what happens when you bring 2 pieces of some element (plutonium maybe, I forget that detail) together closer and closer. The idea was that the count would go higher and higher, then you move the pieces away from each other, and watch the count as that process happens. Unfortunately in some fashion the pieces got too close together, someone not in the room saw a bright blue flash, and had an idea what had happened. Once they were able to get in there, all the people in the room were dead from the radiation. It might be ByoolShytte, but it was a good story. --R On 9/25/2010 5:41 PM, Craig wrote: You could get wierd light coming through the walls and not cracks, but the radiation level would be so high no one anywhere near would not live for long. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Dunno the oversteer/understeer theory, and it doesn't matter much to me. What I know is that if the front does not steer, you have no control. Yes, the back can slip so far and fast that it exceeds the maximum turn mechanically, or it can occur faster than you can react. For most drivers (inexperienced with skids) they over correct which causes gyrations in in harmonic or unharmonic mode, with harmonic leading to unhapppy results. I have gotten into trouble by not reacting fast enough on ice or not reacting to a high enough degree, but that is less disastrous than harmonic overcorrection. (Harmonic being a condition in which the amplitude of the oscillations amplifies in each 1//2 cycle) in practical application, the most scared I have been is when the FWD veehicle has lost traction on the front axle. I generally keep not so good tires on the rear so I don't ruin good tires when this happens, and for safety, the best tires should always be on the front axle. There is an on-going debate about this. If you have poor tires on the rear, the rear will have less traction and will break loose earlier than the front. This will cause massive oversteer that some drivers are not able to handle. The other way around, you get understeer, which is inherently easier to handle. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Hey, you have some connection with medical types. Maybe you can find out how many uses the little vein cameras get, and then what happens to it.. My guess is the little camera is a throwaway, but is useless without the $5,000,000 machine it is connected to (with the display) And I'd guess the brand X cameras are worthless with the brand y machine and vice versa, so there is no competition for the consumables. You know, I had this idea a few years ago, to make a cheap cam like that for hobbyists, cars, etc. and never really pursued it. I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
if there is any there, if doesn't go to the university junk sale. medical makes me shudder. That is about like paying DOD prices. $10 for a bandaid with a fancy name. A NEW borescope would be probably 10x cheaper. now if you knew a medial equipment tech at some hospital that does a lot of that kind of surgery, you might be able to cockaroach one camera. I am with the Chairman mao on doctors. I want to stay far away. no med shool at this univ. They probably have that stuff at the vet school, but I have no contacts there, and that stuff doesn't go to the junk sale. I think a new lower end borescope goes for about $300. I'd like to stay in the $30 range or else the new head gasket gets attractive. Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
Wow I cant believe they make any kind of profit margin on their crap :D On 9/23/2010 8:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spoiled brats, even 50 yr old spoiled brats, ruin families and companies. so in other words they will be out of business soon. That is sure quite a few $20 power tools to sell to pay for all that stuff. On 9/21/2010 11:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jul/19/harbor-freight-ceo-accused-by-parents-of-looting/ -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole on the donut, for an instant you have a critical mass that will peg all the meters. Brilliant young men in the 40's This was Manhattan Project fun and game in the era, makes good reading. -- Pete Arnold ‹(•¿•)› 2007 HHR '95 F-250 P.S.D. 235Kmi Looking at used D/P Member of Escapees National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club On 9/25/2010 8:36 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I used to work with a guy who claimed to have worked at one of the nuke labs back in the 50s. Someone in a class was demonstrating what happens when you bring 2 pieces of some element (plutonium maybe, I forget that detail) together closer and closer. The idea was that the count would go higher and higher, then you move the pieces away from each other, and watch the count as that process happens. Unfortunately in some fashion the pieces got too close together, someone not in the room saw a bright blue flash, and had an idea what had happened. Once they were able to get in there, all the people in the room were dead from the radiation. It might be ByoolShytte, but it was a good story. --R On 9/25/2010 5:41 PM, Craig wrote: You could get wierd light coming through the walls and not cracks, but the radiation level would be so high no one anywhere near would not live for long. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
30% or they would close the doors. I think what you mean is how cheap the must buy it for. -- Pete Arnold, Lost in the 60's ‹(•¿•)› Real Race cars have 3 pedals The only electronics is an AM Radio with Oldies playing. On 9/25/2010 9:24 PM, Rolf wrote: Wow I cant believe they make any kind of profit margin on their crap :D On 9/23/2010 8:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spoiled brats, even 50 yr old spoiled brats, ruin families and companies. so in other words they will be out of business soon. That is sure quite a few $20 power tools to sell to pay for all that stuff. On 9/21/2010 11:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jul/19/harbor-freight-ceo-accused-by-parents-of-looting/ -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
Hm. Still sounds fishy to me. Nuclear fission in a critical mass happens on a timescale that makes the speed of the sphere falling through the donut hole a comparitive eternity. Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net writes: I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole on the donut, for an instant you have a critical mass that will peg all the meters. Brilliant young men in the 40's This was Manhattan Project fun and game in the era, makes good reading. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
They probably sell it at about 1.5x their cost. Rolf r...@winmutt.com writes: Wow I cant believe they make any kind of profit margin on their crap :D On 9/23/2010 8:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spoiled brats, even 50 yr old spoiled brats, ruin families and companies. so in other words they will be out of business soon. That is sure quite a few $20 power tools to sell to pay for all that stuff. On 9/21/2010 11:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jul/19/harbor-freight-ceo-accused-by-parents-of-looting/ -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
I was just looking at the camera on the macbook.. It is maybe 3mm dia. that could be put in a .5 thick case and you would have a 4mm dia camera for pretty cheap. The megapixel camera on my motorola cell phone appears to be about 1mm lens dia. Seems to me somewhere in the computer peripherals world there should be a camera and light USB device for around $30. they put video camera on R/C planes. Those have t be pretty small and they are either wireless or record to a microSD card. Whatever that is ought to work, except for the absence of a light. But if you can keep the camera to 4mm dia, then you should be able to get light in with the remaining 6mm You know, I had this idea a few years ago, to make a cheap cam like that for hobbyists, cars, etc. and never really pursued it. I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. --R On 9/25/2010 8:17 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
That would be a 33% margin and yes overall that is probably close. Out of that, all freight and op exp has to be paid. In reality, you have some low margin or loss leaders you use to lure folks into the store. Then you have normal items that have a 30-35% margin. And then you have the gravy items, where you make 50 to 75% margin. ... and everything in between. Big companies pay neilson billions to figure out the exact optimal price point for profit. The point of consumer pain. In our small business, we had things like spices that were around 60% margin. Lots of other items that were around 30-40% margin and the things I called loss leaders or staples, that you had to be competitive on. The overall goal was to have an average margin of 40-45% and turn the inventory total value every month. The second, velocity, is a key to profitability that most retailers (or manufacturers) don't look at enough. Dr. Goldratt teaches focus on velocity and strategic buffers. It makes a world of difference, but most bean counters don't understand the TOC approach and how to use it. I just heard a war story this morning form a guy who retired from the office furniture/supply business. He was telling how their young MBA was going to put them on just in time but didn't understand drum buffer rope or strategic buffers. The result was disastrous, and took many years to recover from. They probably sell it at about 1.5x their cost. Rolf r...@winmutt.com writes: Wow I cant believe they make any kind of profit margin on their crap :D On 9/23/2010 8:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spoiled brats, even 50 yr old spoiled brats, ruin families and companies. so in other words they will be out of business soon. That is sure quite a few $20 power tools to sell to pay for all that stuff. On 9/21/2010 11:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jul/19/harbor-freight-ceo-accused-by-parents-of-looting/ -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?category=q=boroscope Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 20:36:34 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I used to work with a guy who claimed to have worked at one of the nuke labs back in the 50s. Someone in a class was demonstrating what happens when you bring 2 pieces of some element (plutonium maybe, I forget that detail) together closer and closer. The idea was that the count would go higher and higher, then you move the pieces away from each other, and watch the count as that process happens. Unfortunately in some fashion the pieces got too close together, someone not in the room saw a bright blue flash, and had an idea what had happened. Once they were able to get in there, all the people in the room were dead from the radiation. Actually, there were two incidents of that, though not exactly as described. Ever since, it has been mandatory to do those types of experiments remotely (like 1/4 mile away) with machines doing the moving of material together. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:41:40 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Hm. Still sounds fishy to me. Nuclear fission in a critical mass happens on a timescale that makes the speed of the sphere falling through the donut hole a comparitive eternity. Nevertheless, it was done, and it was indeed called Tickling the tigers tail. The speed of reaction depends upon how close to critical you are. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 58, Issue 94
...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: a0624084cc8c447eec...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed if there is any there, if doesn't go to the university junk sale. medical makes me shudder. That is about like paying DOD prices. $10 for a bandaid with a fancy name. A NEW borescope would be probably 10x cheaper. now if you knew a medial equipment tech at some hospital that does a lot of that kind of surgery, you might be able to cockaroach one camera. I am with the Chairman mao on doctors. I want to stay far away. no med shool at this univ. They probably have that stuff at the vet school, but I have no contacts there, and that stuff doesn't go to the junk sale. I think a new lower end borescope goes for about $300. I'd like to stay in the $30 range or else the new head gasket gets attractive. Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Message: 13 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:57:40 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A Message-ID: a0624084dc8c44a225...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Hey, you have some connection with medical types. Maybe you can find out how many uses the little vein cameras get, and then what happens to it.. My guess is the little camera is a throwaway, but is useless without the $5,000,000 machine it is connected to (with the display) And I'd guess the brand X cameras are worthless with the brand y machine and vice versa, so there is no competition for the consumables. You know, I had this idea a few years ago, to make a cheap cam like that for hobbyists, cars, etc. and never really pursued it. I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. --R -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com End of Mercedes Digest, Vol 58, Issue 94 __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5479 (20100925) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5479 (20100925) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:39:53 -0700 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?category=q=boroscope Rick The only item in that category is: http://www.harborfreight.com/wireless-inspection-camera-with-24-inch-color-lcd-monitor-66550.html According to some of the comments, it does have an LED light. Some of the other comments are interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Uh oh...
Reminds me of the college bookstore. They price the 1-liter soda's at 1.50 with the tax factored in, and the 12oz at 1.25 with tax factored in. The vending machines have em at 1.50 for the 12oz ones. Needless to say, the bookstore flat-out schools the vending machines in profit on soda, even though the price is lower. The kid who sets the prices agrees that selling more volume at a lower per-unit profit is a lot better than selling low volume at a higher per-unit profit, since you end up getting more sales in the end. Walt On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: That would be a 33% margin and yes overall that is probably close. Out of that, all freight and op exp has to be paid. In reality, you have some low margin or loss leaders you use to lure folks into the store. Then you have normal items that have a 30-35% margin. And then you have the gravy items, where you make 50 to 75% margin. ... and everything in between. Big companies pay neilson billions to figure out the exact optimal price point for profit. The point of consumer pain. In our small business, we had things like spices that were around 60% margin. Lots of other items that were around 30-40% margin and the things I called loss leaders or staples, that you had to be competitive on. The overall goal was to have an average margin of 40-45% and turn the inventory total value every month. The second, velocity, is a key to profitability that most retailers (or manufacturers) don't look at enough. Dr. Goldratt teaches focus on velocity and strategic buffers. It makes a world of difference, but most bean counters don't understand the TOC approach and how to use it. I just heard a war story this morning form a guy who retired from the office furniture/supply business. He was telling how their young MBA was going to put them on just in time but didn't understand drum buffer rope or strategic buffers. The result was disastrous, and took many years to recover from. They probably sell it at about 1.5x their cost. Rolf r...@winmutt.com writes: Wow I cant believe they make any kind of profit margin on their crap :D On 9/23/2010 8:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spoiled brats, even 50 yr old spoiled brats, ruin families and companies. so in other words they will be out of business soon. That is sure quite a few $20 power tools to sell to pay for all that stuff. On 9/21/2010 11:54 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2010/jul/19/harbor-freight-ceo-accused-by-parents-of-looting/ -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The E420 is going back together!
I got the power steering pump in and tightened the three bolts that hold its bracket to the block (since I knew where they were it was MUCH easier to do than it was trying to take them out). I could not figure out a way to put the serpentine belt back on by myself, so I tied a small rope to the 6 mm end of a 6/8 mm box wrench and tied the rope to a broken splitting-maul handle, as shown in the pictures attached. With Shirley's help leaning on the handle, I was able to get the belt on with few problems. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 26.installing.serpentine.belt.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 166278 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100925/927dc8ee/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 27.installing.serpentine.belt.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 165961 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100925/927dc8ee/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 28.installing.serpentine.be.t.3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 162241 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100925/927dc8ee/attachment-0002.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
Yeah, but it is $120 bucks. This is a kaleb car at best. On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:39:53 -0700 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?category=q=boroscope Rick The only item in that category is: http://www.harborfreight.com/wireless-inspection-camera-with-24-inch-color-lcd-monitor-66550.html According to some of the comments, it does have an LED light. Some of the other comments are interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
But you don't count the cost of tools in the value proposition of a car, you cn use them on future cars as well. I'd just install the engine, and see how it runs. if it has low compression, then pull the head. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but it is $120 bucks. This is a kaleb car at best. OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
Splice in some hydraulic hose, keeping the two ends? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 is going back together!
Excellent! I had SWMBO help me replace the radiator in the '90 300D today - but all she had to do was hold the flashlight while I positioned and tightened the lower hose-to-water pump clamp. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I got the power steering pump in and tightened the three bolts that hold its bracket to the block (since I knew where they were it was MUCH easier to do than it was trying to take them out). I could not figure out a way to put the serpentine belt back on by myself, so I tied a small rope to the 6 mm end of a 6/8 mm box wrench and tied the rope to a broken splitting-maul handle, as shown in the pictures attached. With Shirley's help leaning on the handle, I was able to get the belt on with few problems. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 26.installing.serpentine.belt.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 166278 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100925/927dc8ee/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 27.installing.serpentine.belt.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 165961 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100925/927dc8ee/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 28.installing.serpentine.be.t.3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 162241 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100925/927dc8ee/attachment-0002.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
How about that weird 603 you had? I suppose it has yet a third style that won't work Can you build a new one or cut out a section and repair the original? Is it steel tubing? You should be able to have a repair section silver soldered in. You can make it/fit it, then take it to a good commercial refrig shop, and they can silver solder it. It would be cool if you could swedge the ends to slide over the tubing, and again, a commercial refig shop can do that too. (assuming it is steel tubing. Are you sure the old one can't be straightened/unkinked? If not you must have done a really good job of fubar with it. Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
A lot of the cameras on phones and computers (and cameras too!) are part of a circuit board, the trick is getting the imager small and at the end of a flex cable of some sort, and the rest of the bits on the hand-held part. --R On 9/25/2010 10:04 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I was just looking at the camera on the macbook.. It is maybe 3mm dia. that could be put in a .5 thick case and you would have a 4mm dia camera for pretty cheap. The megapixel camera on my motorola cell phone appears to be about 1mm lens dia. Seems to me somewhere in the computer peripherals world there should be a camera and light USB device for around $30. they put video camera on R/C planes. Those have t be pretty small and they are either wireless or record to a microSD card. Whatever that is ought to work, except for the absence of a light. But if you can keep the camera to 4mm dia, then you should be able to get light in with the remaining 6mm You know, I had this idea a few years ago, to make a cheap cam like that for hobbyists, cars, etc. and never really pursued it. I see Harbor Fright has one now for about a $100, has a little display and the cam on the end of a flexible thingie. It looks fairly small, but maybe not small enough for that application. Don't think it has a light. --R On 9/25/2010 8:17 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Who on the list can come up with a USB camera (Mfgr and model number) that would be small enough (9-10mm dia or less5-6 mm?) to pass through the hole in the head where a prechamber goes (OM61x and OM60x) to work as a borescope, preferably with onboard light. I would think anyone in the medical equipment biz could arrive at that type of instrument, as in arthroscopic surgery equipment or that other stuff they shove up your groin to examine your heart and do surgery there - that all has lights, action, camera. Cost being no problem. Perhaps with your glow-in-dark doors sources, this type of equipment comes up used from time to time? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo oil line
WILL the 3/8 dia hose for the auto trans connection to the radiator work for a splice? that will hold oil pressure of up to at least 100 PSI, and is built for heat and oil. FLAPS has that. but i'd want a heat shield between it ahd the hot side of the turbo... You talkin bout the pressure side or the return? Splice in some hydraulic hose, keeping the two ends? On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Does anybody have a turbo oil supply line for a 603 3.5? Im putting my 140 back together and need one, mine got damaged on removal. I pulled one from a 3.0 603 and its different. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
This is close, but it does not give the dimension. Looks like 10-12mm www.buy.com/prod/new-usb-2-0-mini-camera-webcam-for-pc-laptop/q/sellerid/23962916/loc/101/213271960.html NASTY URL... But you don't count the cost of tools in the value proposition of a car, you cn use them on future cars as well. I'd just install the engine, and see how it runs. if it has low compression, then pull the head. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but it is $120 bucks. This is a kaleb car at best. OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
This one might be it, but I like that $20 price better. These clowns want to sell a micro devise but include no dimensions of the head size or the min hole size. looks like a pake fleabay. A lot of the cameras on phones and computers (and cameras too!) are part of a circuit board, the trick is getting the imager small and at the end of a flex cable of some sort, and the rest of the bits on the hand-held part. --R On 9/25/2010 10:04 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I was just looking at the camera on the macbook.. It is maybe 3mm dia. that could be put in a .5 thick case and you would have a 4mm dia camera for pretty cheap. The megapixel camera on my motorola cell phone appears to be about 1mm lens dia. Seems to me somewhere in the computer peripherals world there should be a camera and light USB device for around $30. they put video camera on R/C planes. Those have t be pretty small and they are either wireless or record to a microSD card. Whatever that is ought to work, except for the absence of a light. But if you can keep the camera to 4mm dia, then you should be able to get light in with the remaining 6mm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
close, but no bananas: www.geeky-gadgets.com/usb-super-micro-eye-video-camera/ exactly the ticket, but it needs a 17mm hole ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Borescope WAS: Auto Trans Diagnosis A
really close! http://www.etronixmart.com/supereyes-b002-200x-usb-digital-microscope-manual-focusing-p-572.html?osCsid=ad6129ad79c64a005cb54d3ab0bcb58b appears to be 7mm dia, with light. only problem is that it is twice what I'd be willing to spend. Some other time, it would be worth the price... For most of us, this is probably IT. I am just being a real cheapskate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: glow in the dark doors
I believe that was called, 'Tickling the tigers tail' Method was to take 2 sub critical massed, make a donut from one and a donut hole sphere from the other. Drop the sphere thru the hole That doesn't conform to any definition of 'tickling' I'd think of. They did used to do it, or so I understand, but I think it was more like ootching slugs of metal near each other on a table. The donut description is more like that of an active bomb. Not much as a tabletop demonstration! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
