Re: [MBZ] 300 TD
From the load it sounds like you are busy with work on the dome home. How goes that one? Ready to call a Hawthorne-Q yet? The TD did seem a pretty nice looking car as long as you didn't look too closely. Glad it is working out for you. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 TD I've been driving it for the past two weeks. That's how I know it probably needs a new pump. When I put weight on the back with the engine running the back doesn't come up. However if I drive down the road with the load, in a few blocks with the bumps and all the back end will come up from 15 at one mark on the bumper to 17 or within 2 of the normal ride height of 19 for that same point. I guess that's not too bad with about 650 lbs back of the wheels (5 bags of portland). It accelerates faster then the sedan I have does and starts better. The engine sounds real good but the transmission still occasionally slips on the 2-3 shift. I still think it has something to do with the valve body (sticking valve) but I'm not worried enough about it to go in after it. Manfred Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 06:48:29 -0400 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] 300 TD Hi Manfred - how is the 300TD project coming along? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300 TD
Hi Manfred - how is the 300TD project coming along? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Older
Yes, absolutely unsafe. The only way to be safe is to avoid all water, and avoid all food that has been contaminated with it. Let me know how that works for you ...8=) BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Older Yeah but there is a difference in certain plastics vs. black rubber hose. Then again since I'm not on city water anyway all I have to worry about is the lead in the copper pipe joints. Too much other man made garbage in the water anyway to worry about what a few fish have done in it or for that matter what I never mind. Manfred Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:48:03 -0400 From: Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] Older Manfred, If you have domestic water it goes thru about a Bazillion miles of plastic before it gets to you. Fish also pee in it! -- Pete Arnold ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor on a 140
Thanks everyone for both the blower motor information and the brake shield warning. I will refrain from the shields and [probably] switch to ceramic at the next break job. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blower motor on a 140
The blower motor on our 1997 LWB S320 suddenly stopped a few days ago. After all the codes were cleared and the fuse changed [it was bad] the blower still did not work and the 'check engine' light came back on [it had been on for awhile before this, and returned soon after being cleared]. I am given to understand that most often on the 140's it is the blower motor, though we have not gotten down to the motor itself as yet. My question is sort of in anticipation of that being the problem. I notice that I can get the OEM Behr motor from between $885 and somewhere in the $4-600 range, and the alternative Bosch blower is $135. There seem to be at least a few hundred reasons for the alternate blower; any reason to not use the Bosch? While I am out of lurking mode for a moment, my Indy recommended use of the disks that seem to stop so much brake dust from getting on the wheels, but also suggested that I ask the group about them. Anyone familiar? Brake dust is a continual problem on the otherwise nice wheels. Sort of like a pretty woman with spinach between her teeth. Thanks - Bill [still off writing in my spare time] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor on a 140
Thanks Tom - My Indy is also my nephew, and he ends up doing most of my car work. I appreciate the comment as I was just going to order the Bosch and have it in time to make sure it is working for the drive to Miami next week. I don't want to be down there without it. Nephew wrote down all the codes and was going to look them up, but was on his way out to do something with his kids. I'll call tomorrow. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 12:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor on a 140 Bill R wrote: The blower motor on our 1997 LWB S320 suddenly stopped a few days ago. After all the codes were cleared and the fuse changed [it was bad] the blower still did not work and the 'check engine' light came back on [it had been on for awhile before this, and returned soon after being cleared]. I am given to understand that most often on the 140's it is the blower motor, though we have not gotten down to the motor itself as yet. It could be the blower, but the blower motor regulator is a common failure on the 140. Not sure if it is a weak part or a lack of maintenance on the filter, or both. Testing and replacing the regulator and blower is pretty straightforward and is overexplained here: http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/W140BlowerMotor What code was the check engine light reporting? You may have two separate problems. (Probably do, but I am wrong a lot.) Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor on a 140
I have not been reading all the posts, but somehow I think perhaps letting that one go is a good idea ... unless she has a good one cheap... Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor on a 140 I hear Regina's got a W140 blower she isn't using. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower motor on a 140
Thanks - I caught enough of the past to suspect it might be something like that. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower motor on a 140 Bill R wrote: I have not been reading all the posts, but somehow I think perhaps letting that one go is a good idea ... unless she has a good one cheap... Bill R It was kind of a stab a Kleb, who took Regina's car apart some months ago... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Kit Cars, was: Best Porsches
I am again happy that I turned down that trade. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Kit Cars, was: Best Porsches On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bill R billr32...@comcast.net wrote: Gerry - I looked at trading my Caprice for one with a neighbor. IIRC, the engine also had a Maserati nameplate in addition to some cosmetic Maserati items. I don't know if it was an actual Maserati engine as he claimed, but I ended up not making the trade. I think given Maserati's reputation for unreliability in the '80s, you'd be better off with the K-car engine that was in fact under the hood of the TC. What did the parody car-magazine site that Roger posted a link to a while back say about the Maserati Biturbo? Something like By the strictest definition this is not an automobile, if the criteria for the latter include the capability of motion under its own power at least some of the time. Comedy gold. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler/Maserati spawn
] There is a building material salvage yard here in Jacksonville that has [or had] a very nice design Jensen 'fastback' they were trying to sell. They wanted too much for it a few years ago [last time I was by there], but unfortunately it had been left sitting in the yard and had a couple of leaks. I didn't even bother opening it up to look at the inside. Would have been a nice looking James Bond car at one time. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler/Maserati spawn On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A buddy of mine bought a Qporte cheap at some point in maybe early 90s, I think it was a late 70s or something, the squarish wedgie sort of shape. It had a Chrysler 440 or some such engine in it, and a lot of merkin parts (though you had to do a lot of cross-ref to find the right bits). It was scary fast but sucked gas like crazy. Last of the 70s muscle cars I guess but quite cool. Really? Interesting. Wikipedia says the '70s-'80s Quattroportes had various V-8s under the hood, but doesn't say who built them---I always assumed they were Maserati in-house designs like the v-6 in the Biturbo. Only weird cars I can think of from that era that I know used a Mopar big-block were assorted Bristols and the Jensen Interceptor. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Kit Cars, was: Best Porsches
Gerry - I looked at trading my Caprice for one with a neighbor. IIRC, the engine also had a Maserati nameplate in addition to some cosmetic Maserati items. I don't know if it was an actual Maserati engine as he claimed, but I ended up not making the trade. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Kit Cars, was: Best Porsches archer wrote: Speaking of sporty cars such as Porches, uh Porsches, there has been an ad in the paper for several weeks for a Maserati TC, '89, 16 valve, 5-speed, turbo, convertible hardtop, 29K miles, one owner, excellent condition, $14,000, 352-621-4600. Does anyone know anything, or heard anything, about these cars? Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D It's an Italian-American Chrysler Lebaron, sort of, with a 16 valve head on the 2.2L turbo engine. I think it started out in the USA, got shipped to Maserati for some bodywork, and shipped back here for finishing. I looked at one when I bought my 1989 Horizon. They wanted about 28k for the TC, my Horizon was 5k after rebate. Before W124s became cheap, I might have paid $4k for a 5 speed TC, but not now. I wouldn't consider $14k, even at less than 30k miles. Here's a few: (tinyurl provided in case the long one wraps) http://tinyurl.com/yaqpzsf http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/searchresults.jsp?lastStartYear=1981distance= 0style_flag=2body_style=CONVERTmake=CHRYstart_year=1988end_year=1990bo dy_code=1 This one has low miles, but it's the less powerful engine with auto tranny. I think most of them had automatics, certainly the vast majority of the ones you see offered for sale are auto. Only the 5sp version had 224hp (the 224hp engine was later seen in the Dodge Spirit R/T). I'm sure you could get 224hp or more out of the automatic with a bit of extra boost, but I don't know how long the tranny would last. http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=ucar_id=273553935 Thanks, Mitch. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gonna snow in ATL today.
I still remember some terror associated with I75 going into Atlanta when it was snowing and the road had about 3 of slush. That was about 35 years ago. The experience stuck. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gonna snow in ATL today. it's always this way here. people love to panic. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Im pretty sure its going to slush and freeze. I was at publix at lunch and you'd think ww3 was coming. -Rolf On 01/07/2010 12:15 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it normally doesn't stick here. i think you will be ok On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Rolfr...@winmutt.com wrote: God the ride home is going to SUCK. Good thing I keep snow chains in the trunk, that 1-2 inches might take everyone else out! -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] White Christmas
When you are able to stop at those signs the question is whether the people behind you also have such ability. I worried about that a bit when I was in snow country. Keep the heart attacks to a minimum. They are not fun. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] White Christmas My wrecked 300E has driven all around Jefferson today in similar conditions --- with $600 of the best tires Goodyear could sell me, and about 150 lbs. of weight in the trunk. ... By the way, anti-lock works really well in that car: kicked in at every Jefferson stop sign today, and stopped when everyone else seemed to slide thru the stop signs. On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yep, us okies are going to have one for sure. In typical okie fashion, first we got hit with the sleet which laid down what looked like about an inch or more of ice all over everything. Then the snow came several hours ago and we have been getting hammered big time. Does not look like its going to let up till tomorrow. Thank god for 4x4 should I need to go anywhere. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- You are what you are now because you where then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] White Christmas
I hear you on that, just with VA and IN. My grandchildren have been outside playing in the precipitation - wearing shorts and tee shirts. It was raining pretty hard for a bit, but it is 72 deg here, so not a problem. I still see enough snow in Christmas cards. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] White Christmas Sprinkling rain a bit here this morning; 'sposed to be about 45F or so here today. 'Had my share of white Christmases; NE, CA, MI, Greenland, etc. 'dont need any more WHITE uns. ; Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] White Christmas When you are able to stop at those signs the question is whether the people behind you also have such ability. I worried about that a bit when I was in snow country. Keep the heart attacks to a minimum. They are not fun. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 11:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] White Christmas My wrecked 300E has driven all around Jefferson today in similar conditions --- with $600 of the best tires Goodyear could sell me, and about 150 lbs. of weight in the trunk. ... By the way, anti-lock works really well in that car: kicked in at every Jefferson stop sign today, and stopped when everyone else seemed to slide thru the stop signs. On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Yep, us okies are going to have one for sure. In typical okie fashion, first we got hit with the sleet which laid down what looked like about an inch or more of ice all over everything. Then the snow came several hours ago and we have been getting hammered big time. Does not look like its going to let up till tomorrow. Thank god for 4x4 should I need to go anywhere. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- You are what you are now because you where then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] White Christmas
May you live until you are tired of it and ready to try something else. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 10:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] White Christmas I don't remember having any vehicles behind me yesterday. But when that happens, I am quite the defensive driver, with one eye in the rear view mirror. If the guy behind me starts sliding, I am already well into forward motion. I don't worry about heart attacks. If I have one with *my* diet, then I've needlessly forsaken lots of delicious Arby's roast beef sandwiches. And I know when to stop shoveling snow and rest up with a cup of hot coffee or green tea. On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Bill R billr32...@comcast.net wrote: When you are able to stop at those signs the question is whether the people behind you also have such ability. I worried about that a bit when I was in snow country. Keep the heart attacks to a minimum. They are not fun. Bill R -- You are what you are now because you where then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NeXT is going
I found a Newton at a garage sale several years ago, very slightly used and still in the box [with about a $1,100 price tag on it]. It was the end of the day and they wanted $125 for it. I had no idea what it was and offered $45 [what I had on me]. They talked and finally agreed to that. I fell in love with it, but sold it a few months later for $500 to finance a weekend at a honeymoon retreat in the mountains with my wife. It gave me the bug, though, and I bought a Casio soon after and have had a handheld every since. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NeXT is going Have you seen what Newton goes for? Outdated and all, but people are paying retail for them still. clay On Dec 3, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Cool stuff, but way outdated by now -- after all, I just got a duel Athlon server MB running at 2.2 GHz with 2GB of ram for $40 shipped Hard to believe a top of the line laptop is now a slug, too! (Pismo with 700+MB ram, 500 MHz G3). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] wiper problems
Hi Group - the intermittent function on my wipers has ceased to work, as well as the function that brings the wipers down when they are turned off. Since the flash function stopped working a couple of years ago I have been expecting more trouble with that device. Anything else I should be looking at for the intermittent failure, or should I be looking for a new part [even though the steering wheel was installed by an orangutan wanting to see how tight he could get the nut twisted on]? Thanks - BillR List lurker ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wiper problems
Just a tad forgetful today. The wiper problems are on my 1981 300SD, 312k miles. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:31 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] wiper problems Hi Group - the intermittent function on my wipers has ceased to work, as well as the function that brings the wipers down when they are turned off. Since the flash function stopped working a couple of years ago I have been expecting more trouble with that device. Anything else I should be looking at for the intermittent failure, or should I be looking for a new part [even though the steering wheel was installed by an orangutan wanting to see how tight he could get the nut twisted on]? Thanks - BillR List lurker ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wiper problems
Thanks, Jim. I have always admired your style. I'll do some checking. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] wiper problems Hi Group - the intermittent function on my wipers has ceased to work, as well as the function that brings the wipers down when they are turned off. Last time I had this, it was the wiper relay. (Kicked in half, in fact! On a 107 it's just above the gas pedal, too close to harm's way.) It's either bad, or the fuse that powers it perhaps. (If it's separate from the other wiper circuit, can't say that it is.) I glued the relay PCB back together, and jumpered over the trace breaks. It's worked fine ever since. Could've bought a new one, but where's the fun in that? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I want this
Just tell her you want to go camping with her, and this small motor home fell into your lap... BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] I want this Someone could haul off my carcass once I brought it home and my wife saw it. --R http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1492758959.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wiper problems
Does that description also work for an early model 126? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] wiper problems The wiper relay is beneath and to the left of the cluster. Remove the kick panel and snuffle around with your free hand. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I seem to have the opposite problem on my 123, the intermittent function seems to come on randomly. It'll stay on until I turn the stalk to intermittent and back to off. Today it was particularly aggravating as it kept coming on every 5-10 minutes. If I don't cycle the stalk it'll stay on... I don't *think* its the stalk... Where does the relay live on a 123? Thanks -Curt Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:02:06 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] wiper problems To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: d2864704-e01c-11de-a63b-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Group - the intermittent function on my wipers has ceased to work, as well as the function that brings the wipers down when they are turned off. Last time I had this, it was the wiper relay. (Kicked in half, in fact! On a 107 it's just above the gas pedal, too close to harm's way.) It's either bad, or the fuse that powers it perhaps. (If it's separate from the other wiper circuit, can't say that it is.) I glued the relay PCB back together, and jumpered over the trace breaks. It's worked fine ever since. Could've bought a new one, but where's the fun in that? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reel mowers (was corn juice)
Don't we know it. We have that listed out in our costs/benefits. There is also a local power rebate of $800 for switching to solar hot water, and I think a state rebate, but I need to check on that. The plumber installing the system thinks we will save over $100/month with just the solar water heater, not including the insulation and solar powered attic fan. I do hope that to be the case. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reel mowers (was corn juice) And don't forget Obama be payin you some Change for that change. You'll be making money off your retrofit. --R Bill R wrote: That is such an exciting offer that I don't dare tell the grandkids. Having just gotten rid of the 24' above ground pool I now have another yard to mow, but due to my disability I have it all hired out anyway. They are having a blast playing in the sand that was under the pool and using the old deck as a 'tree house'. I found a 10' x 10' heavy duty canvas covered shelter to setup on the deck for some protection from the sun [$17 at a garage sale] and they have used that more in a week than they used the pool all summer. I also don't have to worry about the 3 and 4 year old being out there alone Your efficient dome home has inspired me. I'm having a 120 gal solar hot water heater put in [and a solar powered attic fan and my attic insulation raised from about R-11 to R-30] to replace both water heaters here. They are putting in a recirculation pump so hot water wait time should be cut way back also, even in the apartment. As a bonus we also get a new hall closet where the old 60 gal tank was and another empty cabinet in the apartment where the 40 gal tank has been. The best part is it should cut our electric bill enough to more than pay for itself. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reel mowers (was corn juice)
Things you thought you were through worrying about. I know it well. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reel mowers (was corn juice) Oh well I didn't really think you would bite on that one. You should see some improvement in the electric bill from all that. I guess not having to buy all those pool chemicals and run the pump will also save money then there is also the benefit of peace of mind with not having the pool there. However, now you do have to start worrying about falls. :-) I'll be worrying about that more and more as my granddaughter gets older. She is already trying to climb trees. I don't want to bother cutting down all the trees here so I guess I will just have to get used to worrying... again. Manfred Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 21:37:42 -0500 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reel mowers (was corn juice) That is such an exciting offer that I don't dare tell the grandkids. Having just gotten rid of the 24' above ground pool I now have another yard to mow, but due to my disability I have it all hired out anyway. They are having a blast playing in the sand that was under the pool and using the old deck as a 'tree house'. I found a 10' x 10' heavy duty canvas covered shelter to setup on the deck for some protection from the sun [$17 at a garage sale] and they have used that more in a week than they used the pool all summer. I also don't have to worry about the 3 and 4 year old being out there alone Your efficient dome home has inspired me. I'm having a 120 gal solar hot water heater put in [and a solar powered attic fan and my attic insulation raised from about R-11 to R-30] to replace both water heaters here. They are putting in a recirculation pump so hot water wait time should be cut way back also, even in the apartment. As a bonus we also get a new hall closet where the old 60 gal tank was and another empty cabinet in the apartment where the 40 gal tank has been. The best part is it should cut our electric bill enough to more than pay for itself. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: House addition photos
Looks quite nice. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: House addition photos What's the latest on new addition to the house? Have we seen photos? These two photos are from the end of construction this Spring. It still looks pretty much like this, though there is now some scrub grass growing up. (We haven't done any landscaping yet.) http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/addition1.jpg http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/addition2.jpg -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat Repairs Question
Hi Randy - that was the problem I was having on my '81 SD. Unlike you, I cannot do the work myself, but a trip to the local upholstery shop replaced the left bolster, left seat edge panel and the center armrest with [almost] matching MBTex [the top of the seat was a bit faded, but it matches pretty well]. The contours are like new where the bolster and seat panel had worn through most of the padding. It looks good, and I think the entire job was about $200. It did dress up the interior a good bit. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Seat Repairs Question My 115 300D has been put in the garage for the winter. One thing it needs is repair of the seat back, on the driver's side mainly. The floor in the back seat is covered in horsehair or whatever that stuff is in the original seat. I did the base a couple of years ago and it has been ok. I should have squeezed in a bit more of the polyfill stuff on the top but I can always go back and do that over. Has anyone got good advice on repair of the seat back? The left side bolster type part is what is going flat. I guess it takes a fair amount of abuse when one slides in or out of the car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat Repairs Question
I don't know what they used, but they are friendly folks in a small shop, and are familiar with Mercedes. Give them a call and ask. Just a bit too far to bring it down, but if you do we'll have lunch while they work you it. Hawthorne's Seats Tops 3620 St Augustine Rd, Jacksonville, FL (904) 398-3416 BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat Repairs Question Hey Bill Do you know what they used? I would assume some sort of dense foam. I think I have seen something somewhere that shows gluing up dense foam pieces and then shaping it to resemble the oriiginal shape. It may be smarter to take it to an auto upholstery shop than to try myself but I might give it a try. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:41 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat Repairs Question Hi Randy - that was the problem I was having on my '81 SD. Unlike you, I cannot do the work myself, but a trip to the local upholstery shop replaced the left bolster, left seat edge panel and the center armrest with [almost] matching MBTex [the top of the seat was a bit faded, but it matches pretty well]. The contours are like new where the bolster and seat panel had worn through most of the padding. It looks good, and I think the entire job was about $200. It did dress up the interior a good bit. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Seat Repairs Question My 115 300D has been put in the garage for the winter. One thing it needs is repair of the seat back, on the driver's side mainly. The floor in the back seat is covered in horsehair or whatever that stuff is in the original seat. I did the base a couple of years ago and it has been ok. I should have squeezed in a bit more of the polyfill stuff on the top but I can always go back and do that over. Has anyone got good advice on repair of the seat back? The left side bolster type part is what is going flat. I guess it takes a fair amount of abuse when one slides in or out of the car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day
I liked the hydraulic leveling and ground clearance/jack system, and being able to run [the station wagon at least] a fully loaded one without one of the rear wheels. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 1:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day Well, they ARE very different. Not really all that much worse, or better, just different. After all, there is no metaphysical reason to number cylinders starting at the front, is there? From the rear works just as well. And why not use the shift lever as the starter switch? No way to start the car in gear that way, after all! I have always thought the Citroen DS21 was the King of Kool, anyway -- one spoke steering wheel and hydraulicly shifted manual automatic included! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day
I was pretty serious about getting one back in the early 1970's. Seemed a great car in many ways, though I probably would have needed to have some instruction in hydraulics to keep it going. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I drove a Citroen once...that was plenty for me! Sounds like the beginning of a good story. Details? :) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] biodegrading W124 wiring insulation
Max, if you are one of the thousands who are having and up close and personal relationship with the H1N1 virus, you are considered contagious for at least a day, and perhaps two days, after the fever goes away. You might want to check with the company about returning. My wife might have had it, and she went to work and had the manual tossed to her from ten feet away, and was sent back home. If it was the H1N1 it was quite mild with only a very low fever that only lasted a few hours. There are some advantages in not being young and healthy these days. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:41 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] biodegrading W124 wiring insulation Well, home sick for the third day now, still feverish this a.m., entire household has been stricken, but I'm well enough so I plan to go to work tomorrow as long as the fever goes away today. Daughter was fever-free days ago, so today Mom took her to dance/play group, and I had a few hours to work on my 'new' '95 E300D. Decided to start taking off all the stuff above the injection pump, which the book says needs to be removed in order to replace the IP timer (which was chewed up by the failed vacuum pump). I found that the wires at the connectors for the controller for the intake butterfly-valves are devoid of insulation and clearly shorting out. The CarFax for this car had a repair entry indicating that the engine wiring harness had been replaced, so I was surprised to find this. Need to look at more sections of the wiring harness to see what's going on. This wiring problem would explain some of this car's lack of power. Also found two vacuum lines disconnected, one for the fuel shut-off and not sure what the other is for. Going surprisingly well so far, but I'll have to label/record all the vacuum and electrical connections for the injection pump. Removal of the intake manifold and cross-over pipe were pretty straight forward. I spent about 1.5 hours, taking my time. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dome
There is all of that, but mostly I think just because it looks cool. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Dome Energy conservation did come into it. The dome provides an R value of somewhere around 34-38 depending on how it is calculated. That is over the entire surface. This works out pretty good as the whole thing at 2,500 sq ft will be cooled by a 2.5 ton geothermal unit which will also provide hot water during the cooling season for free. As far as passive cooling considerations, for the short span of time each year when it can be used, it has a cupola on the top, 5 sided with a 2'x8' window in each side. Since they are about 24' off the ground this provides a great place to let hot air out. However the main point in it's favor is the wind resistance. This is a lot lower than any other type of house from all sides with the possible exception of a totally earth covered construction (cave). Unfortunately since I live in Florida I didn't want to get into the possible problems with leaks by being below ground even though there are products that will probably do a lot better now then there were even 10 or so years ago. Then there is also the consideration that I wanted at least some kind of view and in flat land there is no substitute for height, so dome. Manfred Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:42:26 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Dome Why did you choose a dome versus one of the passive solar designs, or did the energy equation not enter into the decision? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission options....
And we are still awaiting the Dome warming party. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options Larry, The way it was explained to me once was; The stall speed is the point at which the engine can't turn any faster when the accelerator is pushed all the way down while the car is standing still brakes on and the transmission is in drive. This is due to the sheer strength of the oil and the space between the fins and number of fins etc. in the fluid coupling which is what the torque converter is. The reason the engine can't turn any faster is because at any RPM there is only so much horse power and torque that that particular engine can produce. This goes up as the engine speed increases till it hits a plateau dependent on the cam, intake, fuel, valve size, compression and on and on. Lots of different variables there. Then usually it goes back down to some extent at a much higher RPM. When the produced power equals the amount of drag produced by the torque converter and what it is connected to obviously the engine won't turn any faster. In normal use of course the car starts moving usually before the stall speed is reached and as it moves the input into the transmission starts turning so the RPM of the engine can go up by the same amount. As the RPM of the engine goes up it is able to produce more power so the car accelerates faster and so on. So the reason for a higher stall speed is that in situations where you want to start accelerating faster or start a bigger load from a stop that requires putting more power to the wheels. Since the engine makes more power at a higher RPM you can either go to a lower gear ratio or allow the engine to get to a higher RPM where it will produce more power. This is the basis of the so called torque multiplying. Nothing is really multiplied it is just that the engine is allowed to produce more usable power at any road speed if called upon, compared to an engine that is directly coupled through a clutch. Bad part is that a higher stall speed is produced by reducing the fluid coupling of the torque converter. This causes more slip at a steady speed or actually at any power point. That in turn effects your fuel mileage unless there is a lockup clutch in the torque converter which gets applied usually in the highest gear to eliminate that slip and recover that loss of mileage. Anyway that's what I was told and I'm sticking to my story. I got to go out and do some work now or get killed. Manfred Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:54:44 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options They talk about a different stall speed improving performance - how does that work? Thx LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission options....
The scary part is that I think he gave us the Cliffs Notes version. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options Thanks MG for that extensive explanation! It'll take me a little time to study it a bit. ;-) Take care - LarryT 91 300D Does your business accept or need to accept V/MC/AE/Dis? We have the best rates 0% Interest Business loans. Visit: http://www.merchantreferralsolutions.com/A365706 -- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options Larry, The way it was explained to me once was; The stall speed is the point at which the engine can't turn any faster when the accelerator is pushed all the way down while the car is standing still brakes on and the transmission is in drive. This is due to the sheer strength of the oil and the space between the fins and number of fins etc. in the fluid coupling which is what the torque converter is. The reason the engine can't turn any faster is because at any RPM there is only so much horse power and torque that that particular engine can produce. This goes up as the engine speed increases till it hits a plateau dependent on the cam, intake, fuel, valve size, compression and on and on. Lots of different variables there. Then usually it goes back down to some extent at a much higher RPM. When the produced power equals the amount of drag produced by the torque converter and what it is connected to obviously the engine won't turn any faster. In normal use of course the car starts moving usually before the stall speed is reached and as it moves the input into the transmission starts turning so the RPM of the engine can go up by the same amount. As the RPM of the engine goes up it is able to produce more power so the car accelerates faster and so on. So the reason for a higher stall speed is that in situations where you want to start accelerating faster or start a bigger load from a stop that requires putting more power to the wheels. Since the engine makes more power at a higher RPM you can either go to a lower gear ratio or allow the engine to get to a higher RPM where it will produce more power. This is the basis of the so called torque multiplying. Nothing is really multiplied it is just that the engine is allowed to produce more usable power at any road speed if called upon, compared to an engine that is directly coupled through a clutch. Bad part is that a higher stall speed is produced by reducing the fluid coupling of the torque converter. This causes more slip at a steady speed or actually at any power point. That in turn effects your fuel mileage unless there is a lockup clutch in the torque converter which gets applied usually in the highest gear to eliminate that slip and recover that loss of mileage. Anyway that's what I was told and I'm sticking to my story. I got to go out and do some work now or get killed. Manfred Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:54:44 -0400 From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options They talk about a different stall speed improving performance - how does that work? Thx LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster for 67 200D
I think you might be on the right track about the dimmer, and I think several list members recommend just wiring around it as the dash lights are dim enough to not blind you. When I had some of the other issues you describe it turned out to be a good fuse [tested by multi-meter] whose contact with the fuse holder had mostly corroded over the years. It got a small amount of current through it, but not enough to do the job. A replacement fuse - and not the one I was expecting it to be - cured it. Now I have a driver side headlight that will not come on unless I first turn the fog lights on. I can then turn the fog lights off and the headlight will work as needed for the rest of the day. I think it is mischievous elves, myself. BillR 1981 300SD 312k miles -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:18 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Instrument cluster for 67 200D I can't seem to get my instrument cluster to behave properly. I think the problem is the dimmer switch - the dash lights don't work. The speedometer isn't working either. So I'm wondering if anyone might have a parts car with an instrument cluster in it?Pictures of the car are at: http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D# Thanks Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster for 67 200D
Sorry, I didn't notice your car doesn't have an electronic component to the speedo. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:52 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster for 67 200D I think you might be on the right track about the dimmer, and I think several list members recommend just wiring around it as the dash lights are dim enough to not blind you. When I had some of the other issues you describe it turned out to be a good fuse [tested by multi-meter] whose contact with the fuse holder had mostly corroded over the years. It got a small amount of current through it, but not enough to do the job. A replacement fuse - and not the one I was expecting it to be - cured it. Now I have a driver side headlight that will not come on unless I first turn the fog lights on. I can then turn the fog lights off and the headlight will work as needed for the rest of the day. I think it is mischievous elves, myself. BillR 1981 300SD 312k miles -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:18 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Instrument cluster for 67 200D I can't seem to get my instrument cluster to behave properly. I think the problem is the dimmer switch - the dash lights don't work. The speedometer isn't working either. So I'm wondering if anyone might have a parts car with an instrument cluster in it?Pictures of the car are at: http://picasaweb.google.ca/hamibob/Rolf67200D# Thanks Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster for 67 200D
My 1962 220Sb odometer had been rolled back by a car dealer. It never did work. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Instrument cluster for 67 200D Thanks for the comments. I had thought I would wire around it - I had checked the fuse and had replaced all the bulbs. Now I have a confession - I decided that since I didn't really know how many miles were on the car, I would turn the speedometer back to 0. I had done it successfully when I finished the restoration on my Willys. So I did it on the 200D as well - it didn't go quite as smoothly as with the Willys and I was a little sceptical as to whether I had it back together properly. It worked for a few miles and then quit. So, I'm thinking that if I can round up a whole new instrument cluster, I'll use it and not touch the odometer! Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] painting
MANFRED - Good to hear from you. I had decided perhaps you have built one too many walls and were stuck inside the dome home and no one had found you yet. I was contemplating a rescue mission. I had a '62 Corvair with a similar problem in the back [well, not that bad yet]. I 'repaired' it with 3/4 marine plywood. It did the job until I sold it. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 11:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] painting I had a VW Bug painted BC/CC in 75. A great job, metallic medium gray looked about a mile deep. That car never saw the first coat of wax and when we finally traded it in on the Cherokee in 87 it still looked like it was just painted. The water still beaded up and it still looked a mile deep. I really hated to see that car go. Had a 1600 engine with a torquer cam, dual ports and dual single barrel carbs on shorty manifolds. Got up to 34 MPG on trips and had a lot more then normal power for that size engine. Of course when we got rid of it if you hit a puddle you would get very wet from your feet to above your waist if you were going fast. Kind of put a damper on driving it in the rain. Manfred From: Douglas jgi...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] painting The clear peels because there is no pigment there and uv rays kill it.. Though mostly because of poor maintenance. IE waxing.. Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Eco-friendly wheels
I should think traction, especially if the need for hard breaking were to arise, would be a big problem - not to mention ride quality. I would expect the second pic would be repeated with the first car very soon. Bill -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Eco-friendly wheels http://pics.nerdnirvana.org/d/21293-2/car-wooden-wheels.jpg Oh, and Batman says hi: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55952stc=1; d=1252882055 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card
My apologies to the international folks getting this, but you might have similar situations where you are. I got a notice today from Juniper Bank [now Barclay's Bank Delaware - a UK based bank] thanking me for alerting them to the fraudulent account opened in my name, and making sure I had not authorized a card from them [I assume from the credit alert I put on our accounts]. The card # they had traced back to me. A call from Virgin America about unusual activity on my account did alert me [there was a gas purchase on the card in Pompano Beach] and the account is now closed. Virgin America was the issuer of the card through Barclay. I am a bit upset that Virgin America [who called me] then told me that they had not called me, and that I had no account with them. Not a bad idea to put the three month alert on yourself with the credit agencies. Experian was the one I .contacted, and they connected with the other two agencies for me. No charge for that. I have the 3 month reminder in my calendar, and plan to renew the alert every three months. Yes, I guess it can happen to anyone. Bill R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091009/0504f379/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 'Nother I fixed it
While not quite that bad [and not dangerous], we bought a house that had been the model home for the neighborhood. They planned on bringing in power to the garage from the SE front, but the utilities would not run power when they needed it so they brought it in from the development behind us at the NE corner. We had a fuse box in our dining room. We also had a wall hanging just a bit larger than it was in our dining room. Not the worst case of a home designed without much reference to where it would be located, but notable. They are everywhere. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:03 PM To: Joe Ornowski; JOHN MELCHIOR; mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] 'Nother I fixed it Smart, real smart. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: photo.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98149 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091009/d3 3868e8/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card
Yes, they do need new ways to make [steal] money, I guess. I use a credit union with no fees, but we only have a debit card. I've got a CC waiting with a hefty limit, but it is not activated [I've got a few months before they cancel it again for non-use]. https://www.experian.com/consumer/cac/InvalidateSession.do?code=SECURITYALER T should get you to the page, then you have to either use the automated system on the phone, or send something in writing, IIRC. Experian will contact TransUnion and whatever the other one is. The reason that helps is that it adds an extra level of proof if you apply for credit. You should be able to do that for yourself [prove you are you, except on a weekend, so don't try to buy anything on new credit when the reporting agencies are closed], but it should stop a fake application. Not foolproof I am sure, but close. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net My apologies to the international folks getting this, but you might have similar situations where you are. I got a notice today from Juniper Bank [now Barclay's Bank Delaware - a UK based bank] thanking me for alerting them to the fraudulent account opened in my name, and making sure I had not authorized a card from them [I assume from the credit alert I put on our accounts]. The card # they had traced back to me. A call from Virgin America about unusual activity on my account did alert me [there was a gas purchase on the card in Pompano Beach] and the account is now closed. Virgin America was the issuer of the card through Barclay. I am a bit upset that Virgin America [who called me] then told me that they had not called me, and that I had no account with them. Not a bad idea to put the three month alert on yourself with the credit agencies. Experian was the one I .contacted, and they connected with the other two agencies for me. No charge for that. I have the 3 month reminder in my calendar, and plan to renew the alert every three months. Yes, I guess it can happen to anyone. Bill R ... Hi Bill, How does the three month alert work and who is alerted? I just got a notice that a credit card company I've been with since credit cards became a common substitute for cash will begin charging me $50 per year. I'm thinking about moving my card to a credit union. I have another card with a Texas bank which provides one million dollars worth of air travel insurance if you pay for it with their card. They have no yearly fee. Signs of the times, I guess. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card
I had forgotten about overseas use of American cards. They probably check more closely now [better electronic connections] , but when I was in Cuba the first time [yes, I was legal] I didn't take any credit cards because I didn't figure they would be good. I could have used them anywhere. The next trip [also legal] I left my cash at home and took the cards. What I didn't know is that in the intervening months our government had cut off payments on American credit cards used in Cuba. Let us just say that was a much more frugal trip [I was fully hosted, so not really a problem], not that there was much to spend it on anyhow. I didn't really need any more souvenirs anyway, but I did miss out a large book of old American stamps [all pre Castro] that I could have gotten at a flea market for $150 [a few months wages for most Cubans at that time]. One of my friends found one stamp in the very large album that was worth $300 by itself, with hundreds of others. Oh, well. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:30 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card A couple years ago my GM card (don't, just don't) was declined when I tried to buy gas. I called and they'd blocked it because of a possible fraudulent purchase (which wasn't) but couldn't tell me about it because my phone number was messed up in their records and apparently they didn't feel like mailing me something. So I got a replacement card sent which never arrived and suddenly somebody: A. Charges $16,000 in Saudi Arabia on my card B. Changes the card's listing of my mother's maiden name Strange no? I call and it takes FOREVER to explain all this to the bottom feeder on the phone. Even the supervisor doesn't understand, I have to go to a 4th(!) level of support to get somebody who understands that your mother's maiden name doesn't change... It took 6 full months to get this all worked out. The best part of the experience was like you say putting a warning on my file... The GM card I'd been using is gone, I went back to a Chase card I'd let go inactive. Its got better (ie something I'd use) rewards... -Curt Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:11:49 -0400 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card To: 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com, m-powe...@yahoogroups.com, mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 004d01ca491c$be180e80$3a482b...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My apologies to the international folks getting this, but you might have similar situations where you are. I got a notice today from Juniper Bank [now Barclay's Bank Delaware - a UK based bank] thanking me for alerting them to the fraudulent account opened in my name, and making sure I had not authorized a card from them [I assume from the credit alert I put on our accounts]. The card # they had traced back to me. A call from Virgin America about unusual activity on my account did alert me [there was a gas purchase on the card in Pompano Beach] and the account is now closed. Virgin America was the issuer of the card through Barclay. I am a bit upset that Virgin America [who called me] then told me that they had not called me, and that I had no account with them. Not a bad idea to put the three month alert on yourself with the credit agencies. Experian was the one I .contacted, and they connected with the other two agencies for me. No charge for that. I have the 3 month reminder in my calendar, and plan to renew the alert every three months. Yes, I guess it can happen to anyone. Bill R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091009/f7 a0e050/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Incognito plates
That is a normal occurrence in Florida. We have so many different plates
[Isn't it about 80 now?] that I don't think anyone knows them all by sight.
I understand some areas are banning the lighted tag holders, but lots of
them are still large.
BillR
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:54 PM
To: mercedes list
Subject: [MBZ] Incognito plates
For a few minutes this afternoon, I drove behind an RBV (ridiculously big
vehicle - some call 'em SUV's) that had ALL the state identifying marks
('cept color) on the license plate COMLETELY obscured/covered by a dealer's
ad/plate frame. One could possible decipher the state by using a chart
showing background colors, color of the characters, etc, (or have 'em all
memorized). It had a pale blue background with dark blue characters -
'don't think I've seen one like it before.
Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise
Thanks, but I'll just tell my nephew before I take it in to the shop and he will make sure it is done. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise Most FLAPS have a good selection of o-rings - might be able to find one there? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:48 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise I don't have an O ring and can't afford to not be able to drive it to pick up grandkids from school. I'll note that for when I take it to the shop. Thanks, Mitch - BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise Bill R wrote: 1981 300SD 311k miles. I have noticed over the past 10 days that the oil pressure gauge, which used to peg in about 2 seconds, is now taking 5 - 6 seconds to get up there. Is this something that rings warning bells for anyone? I'll be taking it in to my Indy next week, but should I be looking for something now? You could always pull the cap off the oil filter and look at the o-rings on the stem. (provided you have a new o-ring for the lid handy in case it doesn't want to reseal when you put it back together) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise
I know, but I like the idea of having the car looked over more often than that, and I can't do it. At 312K miles it does seem to have things that need attention on a pretty regular basis. Thanks - BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise If you are using DELVAC1, you really should have an analysis done. You may be throwing away oil that is less that 50% depleted. My 300SDL went 20Kmi and at that point was 75% depleted. Why toss it out? O'rings for the filter need to be purchased and stored in the glove box for the next oil change. -- Pete Arnold This e-mail from Peter Arnold and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in error please consult your religious adviser. If you are not the intended recipient, why have you read this far? Please do not staple, spindle or otherwise mutilate this document, doing so may damage your screen. All communications may be subject to interception or monitoring by the men in black helicopters for security purposes. Please rely on your own swine flu virus checking as the sender cannot accept any liability for any damage arising from any bug or virus infection. Bill R wrote: I always use Delvac 1 and change it about 10,000, though my mechanic says 15,000 should be ok. I just don't like going that long. It is quite possible that the 'o' rings are old, though. My nephew doesn't do much of the work at his shop, so it is possible the mechanic [who always calls him if there is something he is not familiar with] might not have changed them. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise How long has it been since you changed the oil? I could be wrong, but it always seems to me that it takes longer to come up on the guage when the oil is getting old. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:31 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] slow pressure rise 1981 300SD 311k miles. I have noticed over the past 10 days that the oil pressure gauge, which used to peg in about 2 seconds, is now taking 5 - 6 seconds to get up there. Is this something that rings warning bells for anyone? I'll be taking it in to my Indy next week, but should I be looking for something now? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/4a c6313b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] slow pressure rise
1981 300SD 311k miles. I have noticed over the past 10 days that the oil pressure gauge, which used to peg in about 2 seconds, is now taking 5 - 6 seconds to get up there. Is this something that rings warning bells for anyone? I'll be taking it in to my Indy next week, but should I be looking for something now? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/4ac6313b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise
I don't have an O ring and can't afford to not be able to drive it to pick up grandkids from school. I'll note that for when I take it to the shop. Thanks, Mitch - BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise Bill R wrote: 1981 300SD 311k miles. I have noticed over the past 10 days that the oil pressure gauge, which used to peg in about 2 seconds, is now taking 5 - 6 seconds to get up there. Is this something that rings warning bells for anyone? I'll be taking it in to my Indy next week, but should I be looking for something now? You could always pull the cap off the oil filter and look at the o-rings on the stem. (provided you have a new o-ring for the lid handy in case it doesn't want to reseal when you put it back together) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise
That it does. The only change is that the start to full pressure takes a lot longer than it did a couple of weeks ago [and for the past years]. Thanks - Bill -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise Very Common, no harm as long as pressure climbs with throttle application. Next time you change the oil, also replace the 2 small o'rings on the filter stem. You will find them to be as hard as rocks. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:30:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [MBZ] slow pressure rise 1981 300SD 311k miles. I have noticed over the past 10 days that the oil pressure gauge, which used to peg in about 2 seconds, is now taking 5 - 6 seconds to get up there. Is this something that rings warning bells for anyone? I'll be taking it in to my Indy next week, but should I be looking for something now? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/4a c6313b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/8c 3fa9b2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise in my 300SD / NICE looking 2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
At any rate, it sounds like something that won't kill it if I don't get it done for a bit. I'm a few k miles away from the next oil change. 2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG looks like a sharp car. Way too sharp for my budget, but if I win a big lottery, it will be on the list. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:26 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise Replace the little o rings on the filter stem at the next oil change is the common advice. My 240D was doing it real bad for awhile. I've noticed recently it isn't... Odd. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:30:45 -0400 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: [MBZ] slow pressure rise To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 016d01ca3d23$9ad8ce50$d08a6a...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1981 300SD 311k miles. I have noticed over the past 10 days that the oil pressure gauge, which used to peg in about 2 seconds, is now taking 5 - 6 seconds to get up there. Is this something that rings warning bells for anyone? I'll be taking it in to my Indy next week, but should I be looking for something now? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/a4 41c733/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise
I always use Delvac 1 and change it about 10,000, though my mechanic says 15,000 should be ok. I just don't like going that long. It is quite possible that the 'o' rings are old, though. My nephew doesn't do much of the work at his shop, so it is possible the mechanic [who always calls him if there is something he is not familiar with] might not have changed them. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow pressure rise How long has it been since you changed the oil? I could be wrong, but it always seems to me that it takes longer to come up on the guage when the oil is getting old. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:31 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] slow pressure rise 1981 300SD 311k miles. I have noticed over the past 10 days that the oil pressure gauge, which used to peg in about 2 seconds, is now taking 5 - 6 seconds to get up there. Is this something that rings warning bells for anyone? I'll be taking it in to my Indy next week, but should I be looking for something now? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/4a c6313b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Blue Cross/Blue Shield Florida is also non-profit. No shareholders to pacify. $20M annual salary for the head. It does sort of help to understand 'non-profit' to mean 'after expenses'. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael LaFleur Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam Our major insurance company here, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, is a non-profit. Mike LaFleur From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:48:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I've been thinking that an not-for-profit ins co could do pretty well as its expenses would be so much lower and there wouldn't be the drive to provide profit to the investors. The problem is where does the seed money to get started come from? -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:41:48 EDT From: relng...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c5d.592c4e79.37e9a...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1a 1c6788/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/dd 1e82a4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketable
Now, I always wear a seat belt anyway, and I think it's a good idea to do so, but I don't think the government has any business forcing me to do so, since my choice in this matter affects only me. I assume that if you are seriously injured you have adequate insurance with a multi-million dollar lifetime maximum? Alternately you could keep some sort of cyanide capsule in your mouth so you can kill yourself if you think you will be so injured. Otherwise you are planning on the rest of us paying for your lifetime care if you have a bad accident that costs more than you can supply through insurance or your family's net worth. The three young men I saw in an ICU some years ago all had broken necks [to quads and a para] 0hey were not planning on having, and if they are still alive they are but a drop in the bucket of what you have been helping to pay for all these years. Actually, the government does not force you to wear a seatbelt. I don't have one on now as I sit in my office [in a really twisty chair]. Were I to drive on a public road I would, though, and I am glad you do also. If you are actively seeking legislation to allow troopers to shoot on scene anyone badly injured who doesn't have health or accident insurance, maybe I could support your position. I have spent many hours in ER rooms as well with the families of such people. No, I do not agree that it affects only you. You should not be forced to wear a seatbelt, unless you drive on a public road. My opinion, anyway. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: World Air Traffic - this is cool
Gerry - I couldn't open it either. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: World Air Traffic - this is cool Hi Archer - Unfortunately the link was stripped from the list copy of the email you sent. Could you send itto me direct? Or, if you prefer, send it to the list without part of the link so it won't appear to be a web link. From your description it sounds like something I'd like to see - Thanks - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 10:34 PM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Subject: [MBZ] Fw: World Air Traffic - this is cool The yellow dots are airplanes in the sky during a 24 hour period. Stay with the picture. You will see the light of the day moving from the east to the west, as the Earth spins on it's axis. Also you will see the aircraft flow of traffic leaving the North American continent and travelling at night to arrive in the UK in the morning. Then you will see the flow changing, leaving the UK in the morning and flying to the American continent in daylight. It is a 24 hour observation of all of the large aircraft flights in the world, condensed down to about 2 minutes. From space we look like a bee hive of activity. You could tell it was summer time in the north by the suns foot print over the planet. You could see that it didn't quite set in the extreme north and it didn't quite rise in the extreme south. I have never seen this before. We are taught about the earths tilt and how it causes summer and winter and have had to imagine just what is going on. With this 24 hour observation of aircraft travel on the earth's surface we get to see the daylight pattern move as well. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090920/1a cb84d9/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: WorldAirTraffic0-24h.wmv Type: video/x-ms-wmv Size: 6030001 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090920/1a cb84d9/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown
I looked at one a year or so ago that had a clear plastic hose [like an aquarium air line] coming out of the dash. The owner enjoyed explaining how he had to suck it off to get it to shut down. I didn't want to do a test drive for some reason. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown As far as the dangers involved from my perspective, they are twofold: Don't forget the old fingers-in-the-fan-belt danger! Our now-sold 240D wouldn't shut down properly, but it turned out to be a vacuum supply problem. (A too-small orifice from the main line.) It also had cruise control problems as a result of this. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown
It also is a lot less disruptive of your trips to not have to open the hood every time you want to shut it down, but the idea of months of sucking on the tube ... not so much. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:02 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown Right-that is the solution I heard the car talk guys give one day-they were obviously ignorant of the shut down switch. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:47 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown I looked at one a year or so ago that had a clear plastic hose [like an aquarium air line] coming out of the dash. The owner enjoyed explaining how he had to suck it off to get it to shut down. I didn't want to do a test drive for some reason. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Emergency shutdown As far as the dangers involved from my perspective, they are twofold: Don't forget the old fingers-in-the-fan-belt danger! Our now-sold 240D wouldn't shut down properly, but it turned out to be a vacuum supply problem. (A too-small orifice from the main line.) It also had cruise control problems as a result of this. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange
I could use a passenger side seat switch. OEM was a basic switch, but a memory seat switch was wired in there as that was what I found. I am supposing either one would work at this point, and I have a baggie of small springs and pivots and switch parts if anyone needs them to rebuild a memory seat switch for a 126. Looking at the case/board/contacts and little pieces gives me nightmares. Bill R 1981 300SD 311k miles 1997 LWB S320 158k miles -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of drcscru...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:30 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange I have some seats/interior that are still in a 82 300sd that I got the other day.? Does anyone need interior parts out of a 126?? I think they are in pretty good/fair condition.? -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 6:04 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange I have a garage full of Gump parts that SWMBA would enjoy my posting to the site. Bound to be somebody needs them.? ? Yeah, whomever owns Gump!? ? -- Jim? ? ? ___? http://www.okiebenz.com? For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com? To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/? ? To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:? http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/fb eb5c33/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors
If such is appropriate for 10 year old who is looking to have her own computer I am interested. I also have two very old mac 1400cs powerbook laptops that someone might need for parts. They still work, but require too much for a PC trained 10 YO or a 60 YO grandpa to use. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Wall street? That would be nearly Pismo-licious, and probably perfect for my son's Riven game, etc., but without the builtin Airport. (Porn-free, etc.) Color me interested! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. That would (should?) be the SE30. I have one, nice little machine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange
Considering I broke it a month ago, a few more days won't matter much. 8=) When it went out before the seat was in a really bad position. At least now it is where it 'should' be. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of drcscru...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:37 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange I will check the passenger side, the drivers side is shot though.? Will not be able to check until tomorrow tho.? cks -Original Message- From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 8:37 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange I could use a passenger side seat switch. OEM was a basic switch, but a memory seat switch was wired in there as that was what I found. I am supposing either one would work at this point, and I have a baggie of small springs and pivots and switch parts if anyone needs them to rebuild a memory seat switch for a 126. Looking at the case/board/contacts and little pieces gives me nightmares. Bill R 1981 300SD 311k miles 1997 LWB S320 158k miles -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of drcscru...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:30 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange I have some seats/interior that are still in a 82 300sd that I got the other day.? Does anyone need interior parts out of a 126?? I think they are in pretty good/fair condition.? -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 6:04 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange I have a garage full of Gump parts that SWMBA would enjoy my posting to the site. Bound to be somebody needs them.? ? Yeah, whomever owns Gump!? ? -- Jim? ? ? ___? http://www.okiebenz.com? For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com? To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/? ? To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:? http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/fb eb5c33/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used par ts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/70 1b678f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors
I suspected as much, but I have never used a mac, and she is just starting to learn on our PCs. I am not at all tech savvy [it skipped a generation]. I'm happy to ship them to someone wanting to give it a shot. One has a zip drive and I have about 20 zip disks here somewhere. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs of all flavors On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Bill Rbillr32...@comcast.net wrote: I also have two very old mac 1400cs powerbook laptops that someone might need for parts. Now that is a lovely old machine. Plenty fast with Mac OS 9, and there's even a web page detailing step-by-step how to set up Wi-Fi with an original AirPort card: http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400.html They'll run Linux too: http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=162 If you're looking for a basic web surfing machine, I suppose these are pretty much obsoleted by the many sub-$300 netbooks out there---on the other hand, the old PowerBook keyboards are wonderful, so they make great portable word processors or note-takers for kids in college (and in the latter case, no need to worry about it being stolen or lost since you can always pick up another one for free or close to it). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More Re; colleges
If we are suggesting good small colleges, I'd suggest checking out Lynchburg College in Lynchburg VA. Very good facilities, very good faculty [at least when I was there]. Because it is in the frozen Northland [which they would hotly dispute] they have indoor as well as outdoor sports facilities. The control panel for the first nuclear powered ship was designed on campus: good science school. My ex-roomie got good prep to become a veterinarian, and no complaints about my liberal arts education there either. I was about as ready for grad school as I could be. Pretty highly rated school; very good campus social life. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Re; colleges Yes, the family of Emily Lubin class of 1995 paid for that. We lived in the same dorm back in the time. I was class of '94. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2009, at 1:21 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: And don't forget Bowdoin's splendid Lubin squash complex - 9 courts in a facility endowed by a gentleman with the same name as my grandfather. Makes me proud just thinking about it. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Bowdoin is a fine school especially if you like outdoor activities, cold weather , lobster and super fine academics. It graduated both Hawthorne and Longfellow to name a few. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Dan Weeks theprofil...@dwx.com wrote: On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:10 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: Guidance staff figured the boy would fit well in these schools. He is not interested in local schools or nice ones below 45 degrees latitude. Sun seems to be too much for him. I say University of St. Petersburg or the Lenin school of larger schooling clay Bowdoin, Bates, WIlliams, Bennington are good choices of northern schools in New England, in the midwest, check out Macalester, Carleton (MN), Kenyon, Oberlin (OH) and Grinnell (IA). All superb schools. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090829/d3 e789e0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Tika-Marsala coming soon... Tata
I got to tour the main Tata steel plant and truck factory back in the late 1980's. I was there more for observing their work with local villages [they had adopted 125 of them, teaching skills then buying products from them], so the factory tours were a bit cursory, but it was interesting to see some of the differences in regulations. The truck frames/drive trains were made in Jamshedpur, and the body and interior was attached in what was then Bombay. The driver would pull out of the factory, make a lap around the track, then take off for Bombay [hundreds of miles away - think @ 200 miles West of Calcutta to Mumbai] sitting on a wooden bench with no windshield. Jamshedpur was the ultimate company town, with the electric supply, schools, hospitals, streets and everything else being part of the company. Greater Jamshedpur was about 600,000 people, with a great many living outside the well maintained city proper in surrounding slums. Tata was a well run company, at least back then. BillR At 01:54 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote: I'm waiting for the larger Tatas. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil change cost
My nephew is shop manager and part owner of a foreign car repair shop. He says his cost for a standard oil change is @$45.00. The $18 oil change special at the local quick lube shop sure isn't how they make their money. That transmission fluid is really dirty/burnt. See the color .. you really need to change the transmission fluid and give it a flush. I was on a multi-day trip and had one of those turkeys tell me that, and remind me that I have to do that every 18,000 miles. I asked him to look at the 8,000 miles on the odometer of my fairly new car. He just said Oh.. and backed away from the car. No more offers the one and only time I ever went there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:06 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil change cost ...This BMW takes 8 quarts of oil, but I can't imagine it being more then $40 for the oil change. Oh well, I think I will avoid the dealer... Anybody charging 40 bucks for an oil change is making no money. For example, local Mobil 1 0W40 retails locally for $6.99 (I just bought 20 quarts on sale for $5.30 which is the lowest price for years) and 15/50 from Walmart for the usual 23 bucks for a five quart jug. And then there is the filter (fleece in my car) which might $7 or more. Or less. Plus labor, disposal fees, shop supplies etc. So my oil-change-by-Topsider just yesterday cost me about $50 and no labor charge. My MB dealer probably gets twice that. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090819/f5 98cbc8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Snook is selling his car
Must sell 87 chevy caprice on 22' rims - $2500 At that height I doubt they would be street legal. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Snook is selling his car You think I would be caught near those wheels? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT Snook is selling his car Or it might be Wilton. I have not met either, but I think that is one of them, yo. Must sell 87 chevy caprice on 22' rims - $2500 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1326036248.html Nice pic! --R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090817/38 86c2f4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.
I know this has happened to others, but what a pain. My dash gauges all went dead [oil, fuel, tach, speedo, odo, plus blinkers and brakes]. I check each fuse, spraying with cleaner and twisting, then put a continuity tester on all of them, all were good. I finally gave up and took it to my nephew's shop. He discovered it was a fuse that had corroded most of the contact point, so it still showed continuity and power on testing, but being a 30 amp with all the turn signals, gauges and brakes on it the bad spots stopped enough of the power that they didn't work, though it tested good. If it is an electrical problem, CHANGE THE FUSES [where have we heard that before], even if they are 'good'. BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090814/56744f58/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] turbo DIESEL MERCEDES 1983 300d 181k - $300
http://www.crazedlist.org/index.cgi?areas=219,238,331,332,39,80,205 http://www.crazedlist.org/index.cgi?areas=219,238,331,332,39,80,205catAbbr eviation=sssquery=mercedesminAsk=minmaxAsk=maxthiscat=8submit=Search catAbbreviation=sssquery=mercedesminAsk=minmaxAsk=maxthiscat=8submit=S earch Just ran across this one. BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090812/150c6cef/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] very OT - i/o problem on a SD mini
I did that first. Using the adaptor the computer won't read it, but it never will read a mini with the adaptor. Using it in another handheld that uses an SD does not show anything either. Much to my surprise I got the key for the site to download the dozens of items I thought were lost, so it is something of an academic question at the moment. The main thing would be to have the 6 Gb card available. I am now doing a full backup of the card and internal memory. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] very OT - i/o problem on a SD mini On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:54:27 -0400 Bill R billr32...@comcast.net wrote: My storage card suddenly decided to not be recognized by the device. There are lots of items on that that I probably can't replace. Is there any reasonable way to retrieve that information? It is a 6 Gb card in a device [HTC 9825] that I think is rated for 4 Gb. It seems to have worked ok for a long time, but sure decided to quit - the day before I was going to do a full backup. I'm recreating what I can on a 4 Gb card, but the rest would be nice to have. Any suggestions appreciated. Try the card in another device? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tranny shifting problem!!
I don't think this is applicable to your situation, but anyone with tranny problems might end up reading it. Manfred just about cured my transmission shift problems by doing some exact measurements on the throttle linkages. I had been having some problems with it since I had the tranny replaced a year ago, and now it is almost perfect. FWIW - BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John P. English Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tranny shifting problem!! Peter, I'll follow your suggestions, and thank you for taking the time to provide them. John -- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tranny shifting problem!! You should also check the adjustment of the kickdown cable from the accelerator linkage to the tranny. If the plastic screw fitting has broken, the cable may not be operating correctly. Also verify the condition of the tranny shift modulator on the left fender (blue plastic do-dad that looks like a horn). Broken vac/pressure lines will result in very strange shifting behavior. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Non - Benz OT : Mechanic needed for a Durango
My daughter and SIl have a Dodge Durango [maybe 5 years old?] with a non functioning AC. It was just the fan, and cooled OK when moving, but I think it is more involved than that now. She is about 7.5 months pregnant and getting stalled in traffic on I285 for 2 hours just about did her in a day or so ago. They live in Union City GA, just a few miles S. of the Atlanta airport. Does anyone have a recommendation of a decent mechanic within about 25 miles of them? I've got them looking on the Car Talk Find a Mechanic files, but personal recommendations welcomed. Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090810/bde54165/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Non - Benz OT : Mechanic needed for a Durango
Thanks Tom - I'll pass it along. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Non - Benz OT : Mechanic needed for a Durango Bill R wrote: My daughter and SIl have a Dodge Durango [maybe 5 years old?] with a non functioning AC. It was just the fan, and cooled OK when moving, but I think it is more involved than that now. Can't help with a mechanic, but if only the fan has given up, it is most likely the blower motor resistor, a common problem. Looks pretty simple: http://www.gtrippleb.com/auto/durango/tech/durango_blower_resistor.htm Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Had a brain flash/short - tow away zones
I lost my Alfa GTV that way many years ago in Indianapolis. I was not familiar with those things and ran into an office for 10 min, ended up staying 45, and came out to no car. It had a car alarm and was still screaming when I got to the impound lot an hour later. They had parked it as far away from the office as possible and it was still annoying. No one to blame but myself. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:55 PM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] Had a brain flash/short 'Bout six years ago I was in DC for coupla days doing some research at The Library of Congress. 'Second day, I finished early, and friend, who was with me to help drive and help me with the wheelchair (before my scooter), and I decided to go to a Crossfire taping at George Washington University. A block or so from the studio, we found a parking space parallel to the curb and the very first space in a LONG straight line for several blocks as far as we could see. It was about 3:30 PM, and in a effort to determine if we were safe parking there, we stood for several minutes at the curb beside the car trying to decipher all the 6 to 8 signs on a pole beside the car. Each time running through the signs denoting valid parking times and other rules, we thought we were starting with the top sign and going down all the possibilities on them. Each time, after reading through all of them, we asked each other aloud, So, is parking here now OK? Again, as far as we could see up the street in front of my black SDL cars were parked at the curb. Quite a shock we received, though, as we approached the car after the show at about 5:30! My black SDL was sitting there all by itself - nothing in front of it at the curb as far as we could see over the horizon! Big, $100 pink slip under windshield wiper! This time we understood the very top sign very clearly, NO PARKING 4:00 TO 6:00 PM. 'Lucky the car was still there and undamaged. Can you imagine the rush hour traffic trying to get around that car? (BTW, my friend was driver-in-command, but I split the ticket with him - I paid $60, he paid $40 - he swears that I ordered him to park there.) Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090810/0f d57090/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] very OT - i/o problem on a SD mini
My storage card suddenly decided to not be recognized by the device. There are lots of items on that that I probably can't replace. Is there any reasonable way to retrieve that information? It is a 6 Gb card in a device [HTC 9825] that I think is rated for 4 Gb. It seems to have worked ok for a long time, but sure decided to quit - the day before I was going to do a full backup. I'm recreating what I can on a 4 Gb card, but the rest would be nice to have. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090809/280afc74/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD
I didn't know the relays were interchangeable. I had noticed that there seems to be more pins than metal contact sleeves in some of the sockets, and wondered if I had knocked one loose during the [relatively gentle] cleaning. I'll take a look at the numbers on the relays. Thanks - Bill -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Maybe a relay problem since it changes when you messed with that relay. I would try switching another relay of the same type from another position and see if it improves. If not then look for a bad contact on the back of the instrument panel. Possible loose wire or even a broken trace on the board. A loose wire can make a buzzing noise when the power sparks across the gap. Check all the contacts in the plug on the back of the board. Manfred Message: 7 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:47:28 -0400 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Guess I should get a bit more specific. The temp, fuel, oil pressure [pegged at the top] speedo, tach and blinkers are dead. The clock. odo and flashers do work. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD
Thanks Jim. It can get to the whiney point, then to the half blink point. I don't recall it being faster though, and worked fine while the blinker was on. Now everything [but the clock] that needs an electric feed is dead. I tried swapping around the relays that had the same number, but that made no difference. I'm thinking a bad ground that finally went from intermittent and partial to total. I'm well past my activity limit for today, even though it is relatively cool at only 87. I'll try some of it on Monday with a tester. IIRC, the flasher is left and up from the brake pedal, suspended right at the back of the knee panel. I might have been working with the flasher a couple of years ago [unless it is the same?]. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of j...@windwireless.net Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 11:07 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD The flasher will whine/buzz if there's a load on it even when the switch (to the lamps) is off. I found this out when I hooked up an auxiliary clacker relay in the SL, but did it 'wrong'. In normal operation it flashes when it sees a full load on it, and waits quietly until it does see such a load. Remember that it's calibrated to flash faster under a too-light load, as a lamp-out warning. Taken to extremes apparently it can get to the buzz/whine point. Pull the flasher and measure the resistance from the output socket pin to ground, there should be infinite resistance unless a turn signal or hazard switch is engaged. I'm guessing it's a leaky/dirty hazard switch that's letting some current, at a non-illuminating level, travel through it. Regardless, I'm thinking you'll find a parasitic leak, and your job is to chase it down and kill it. -- Jim From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 6:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD I didn't know the relays were interchangeable. I had noticed that there seems to be more pins than metal contact sleeves in some of the sockets, and wondered if I had knocked one loose during the [relatively gentle] cleaning. I'll take a look at the numbers on the relays. Thanks - Bill -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Maybe a relay problem since it changes when you messed with that relay. I would try switching another relay of the same type from another position and see if it improves. If not then look for a bad contact on the back of the instrument panel. Possible loose wire or even a broken trace on the board. A loose wire can make a buzzing noise when the power sparks across the gap. Check all the contacts in the plug on the back of the board. Manfred Message: 7 Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:47:28 -0400 From: Bill R Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Guess I should get a bit more specific. The temp, fuel, oil pressure [pegged at the top] speedo, tach and blinkers are dead. The clock. odo and flashers do work. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090808/a4 41de4a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD
Thank you Barry. I gave them a quick look earlier, but I will pay special attention to 12. If I show continuity from the top to the bottom of the fuse holder I would assume the fuse is good? They all did that about two weeks ago, but that was prior to my messing with it. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:58 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Bill - After a quick review of the ECM, The power for most of the cluster, but not the clock, comes from fuse F12. Have you replaced that fuse? If that doesn't help remove the cluster and probe socket #7 of the round connector for 12V. The key needs to be in the run or start position for F12 to get power. The ground for the cluster is at G102 which is one of the many brown wires tied to the instrument panel(lower center of the cluster cutout) you see when you remove the cluster. You might test the cluster ground. For the portion of the cluster fed by F12 it should be at socket 3 of the same round connector. It should read very low ohms to the G102 or any good ground point. Not sure if someone has already suggested this as I have been behind the power curve for the last little while on my E-mails. Barry Now everything [but the clock] that needs an electric feed is dead. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD
I did replace that fuse, but it made no difference. I'm going to pull the cluster Monday and see what happens. Bill -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:04 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Bill - As Marshall used to say, it is best just to replace them. If you get continuity it is a good sign and probably means it is ok but you can get continuity across a hair fine wire but it won't carry any current. If you must keep the fuse take it out and make sure the conductor isn't cracked and clean off some of the oxidation. The best test is to measure voltage at the connector. FWIW, on my '81 SL I did once have what another lister mentioned, that being a crack in the printed circuit board on the back of the cluster. It was very hard to see. You had to probe each circuit with an ohmmeter and look for the large ohmic reading. It was easily repaired by soldering a small length of wire across the crack to bridge it. Barry Thank you Barry. I gave them a quick look earlier, but I will pay special attention to 12. If I show continuity from the top to the bottom of the fuse holder I would assume the fuse is good? They all did that about two weeks ago, but that was prior to my messing with it. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Answer for O/T Concrete Mixer Trivia, Don't Read if you so desire
Thanks Peter. I never knew that [or a lot of other stuff about concrete.
Interesting.
BillR
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Subject: [MBZ] Answer for O/T Concrete Mixer Trivia, Don't Read if you so
desire
First, I want to apologize to those folk(s) that were bored by this
thread. I was sure when I asked that the diverse knowledge of this
group would enjoy the brain tickler. I've lurked while guns, politics,
mac computers and moose have had longer threads. If the subject in the
header is boring to me, I just pass it over
So stop reading if you really don't care about the answer.
Drum Roll.
The drum on the mixer is circled and supported by 2 very large mild
steel rings which are welded to the drum. Those rings a nestled {and
cradled} by relatively small hardened roller bearings. If the truck
were to be driven with the drum stationary, those small bearings would
quickly flat spot and or deform the huge ring. Those, the drum is
always kept turn while the truck is in motion.
We now return you to your regular scheduled programing.
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Re: [MBZ] O/T - How is the dome home coming??
Hi Manfred - Have not seen too many emails from you of late. My system has been a bit screwed up [the remailer's anyway], so I might have missed some. How goes the construction? Ready for a Hawthorne-Dome-Home-Q and aerobatic demonstration anytime soon? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T - How is the dome home coming??
At least you have a nice place to stay while you are working on the palace. Doing it with your own hands is good too. I've not attempted more than some remodeling and installing a bathroom and septic system for it [though I did have the tank installed, I dug the drain field by hand]. You'll look back on these years and say Why/How did I ever do that? You will do it in efficient comfort though. I know what you mean about the posts getting cold before you get to them. I've been that way with my writing project. That has been sucking up my time for a year now, but is closing in on being done - good think as I start teaching it in September. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T - How is the dome home coming?? Haven't been writing too much. Mostly by the time I get around to reading something it's already been answered days ago. Not anywhere near finished though I do have the cupola on now so at least it doesn't rain in anymore. Now if I could only get the finish concrete done on the outside I could remove the support frame and get to doing some of the inside. Oh well some day. Manfred Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:04:10 -0400 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T - How is the dome home coming?? Hi Manfred - Have not seen too many emails from you of late. My system has been a bit screwed up [the remailer's anyway], so I might have missed some. How goes the construction? Ready for a Hawthorne-Dome-Home-Q and aerobatic demonstration anytime soon? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD
I did it to myself, though I am not exactly sure of the part I screwed up. For the past three years I have had an intermittent buzz [like a single strand of a wire shorting out at times] on the blinker. It would be good while flashing, but hum/buzz at times, and it's extreme was to make a continuous partial blink on the left blinker. Replacing the flasher did nothing, and it did the same right after and the rest of the day, then it stopped it for about 6 weeks. Messing with any of the wiring did nothing immediate, though as with messing with the flasher, the next day it would stop for 6 - 8 weeks.My nephew noticed one of the modules in the fuse box showed a bit of black on the pins, so I cleaned all of them. Same result, only it stopped it immediately. When it came back I cleaned all of the module pins with electric contact cleaner and put a bit of electric contact paste on the pins [$.99 sample size by the register at local FLAPS]. This time the console when dead. I cleaned the stuff off and the console and blinker worked for a few moments, but now has not worked for a week. Any thoughts or suggestions? BTW - I thought it time to do a diesel purge, and was impressed at that engine. It did almost no smoke, though it did stop most all the shaking. I was breaking an air cleaner mount about ever two months before I did it. Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090807/46b9d864/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD
Guess I should get a bit more specific. The temp, fuel, oil pressure [pegged at the top] speedo, tach and blinkers are dead. The clock. odo and flashers do work. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:42 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD I did it to myself, though I am not exactly sure of the part I screwed up. For the past three years I have had an intermittent buzz [like a single strand of a wire shorting out at times] on the blinker. It would be good while flashing, but hum/buzz at times, and it's extreme was to make a continuous partial blink on the left blinker. Replacing the flasher did nothing, and it did the same right after and the rest of the day, then it stopped it for about 6 weeks. Messing with any of the wiring did nothing immediate, though as with messing with the flasher, the next day it would stop for 6 - 8 weeks.My nephew noticed one of the modules in the fuse box showed a bit of black on the pins, so I cleaned all of them. Same result, only it stopped it immediately. When it came back I cleaned all of the module pins with electric contact cleaner and put a bit of electric contact paste on the pins [$.99 sample size by the register at local FLAPS]. This time the console when dead. I cleaned the stuff off and the console and blinker worked for a few moments, but now has not worked for a week. Any thoughts or suggestions? BTW - I thought it time to do a diesel purge, and was impressed at that engine. It did almost no smoke, though it did stop most all the shaking. I was breaking an air cleaner mount about ever two months before I did it. Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090807/46 b9d864/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD
Yes. I am at an age when the correct term doesn't always come to me at the right moment so I just do the best I can. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Oh, you mean instrument cluster? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD Guess I should get a bit more specific. The temp, fuel, oil pressure [pegged at the top] speedo, tach and blinkers are dead. The clock. odo and flashers do work. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:42 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] Dash console dead - 1981 300SD I did it to myself, though I am not exactly sure of the part I screwed up. For the past three years I have had an intermittent buzz [like a single strand of a wire shorting out at times] on the blinker. It would be good while flashing, but hum/buzz at times, and it's extreme was to make a continuous partial blink on the left blinker. Replacing the flasher did nothing, and it did the same right after and the rest of the day, then it stopped it for about 6 weeks. Messing with any of the wiring did nothing immediate, though as with messing with the flasher, the next day it would stop for 6 - 8 weeks.My nephew noticed one of the modules in the fuse box showed a bit of black on the pins, so I cleaned all of them. Same result, only it stopped it immediately. When it came back I cleaned all of the module pins with electric contact cleaner and put a bit of electric contact paste on the pins [$.99 sample size by the register at local FLAPS]. This time the console when dead. I cleaned the stuff off and the console and blinker worked for a few moments, but now has not worked for a week. Any thoughts or suggestions? BTW - I thought it time to do a diesel purge, and was impressed at that engine. It did almost no smoke, though it did stop most all the shaking. I was breaking an air cleaner mount about ever two months before I did it. Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090807/46 b9d864/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Public Service Announcement - 126 seat switch needed
On a slightly different point, what you mention about the staffer giving his viewpoint priority points to the major problem with term limits. The elected positions of congress are pretty much overwhelming in terms of needing to know everything about everything coming before the legislature, so they have to rely on staffers until they are well versed in a given subject. The longer a person stays, in theory they will actually get to know an increasing number of areas reasonably well. A mandatory turnover of elected officials elevates the non-elected staff to being the only ones who are the experts on nearly every issue, so they end up being responsible for even more legislation than they are responsible for now [don't they write just about all of it?], and with fewer checks to their power. I don't think term limits are a bad idea, even with that. I also think most professors need to spend at least one of every five years in the real world doing the thing they teach. I have many such fantasies. Another fantasy [?] is that someone out there has a replacement passenger seat control switch to replace the one I destroyed a couple of weeks ago. The dual position switch with headrest adjustment was the one we had so my son wired it in to control the non-memory seat on my '81 300SD. With that much custom wiring having been done I think it would be best to replace it with the same one we rigged to work before. Kaleb? Anybody? I have a baggie full of small springs and pivots and such - all I could find of the exploding switch I had in there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Public Service Announcement Allan Streib wrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: I don't think my representatives can read -- but Will Rogers said we should write to them anyway. (Don't remember the exact quote). They don't read the leglislation they vote on, why would you think they read letters from their constituents? They've got staffers to look at the letters, pick out a few key words, and tabulate the results. Boss, our mail on CCW reciprocity is running 7 for to 3 against. Thanks. Read any good ones? (staffer hands elected critter the best 3 letters that support the staffer's point of view) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What can someone tell me about these Mercedes?
I'll second the feeling about the 140's road worthiness. We just took our 1997 S320 to Atlanta and back - probably 1,000 total for the week. This one you look forward to driving. The Parktronic is helpful for getting it where you want it [my darling wife likes to back into spaces], the moisture sensing wipers work great, etc. We love that car, though I suspect it is a bit underpowered with that 6 were we to do any mountain driving. Now I have my fingers crossed that the extra $ we paid because it was sold and serviced at the dealer we bought it from will pay off. I know I don't want to do any serious repairs on that one. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Benz Hogs Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What can someone tell me about these Mercedes? Mhmmm, when I drove Kaleb's, it made me want oneugh. Luther EVERYONE should own and drive a W140 at some point in their life. -Dave Walton -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Computer virus attacts
I use the free AVAST! version on my computer and have had no problems. I don't have alerts unless it finds something, and that only happens a few times a year. I suspect that part of the help I get on that is being on the end of a wireless router so I'm hard to find. I had a corporate edition of Norton on for awhile [fife's company supplies it for all employees home computers] and the free AVAST! seems to do a much better job. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 1997 S320 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of harry watkins Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 4:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Computer virus attacts My Avast anti virus program is showing a huge increase in blocking alerts. I've probably seen more hits in the last seven days than I normally see in a year. When I had Norton they would pop up 2,3 times a day, Avast has not been like that. Anyone else seeing this increase with their program? Harry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090724/5a d36f37/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Vibrations 190D - motor mount??
That sounds like what happened on my 1981 300SD when the motor mounts went bad. It got worse quickly and got quite loud until replaced. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] New Vibrations 190D - motor mount?? For those who are annoyed by questions that make you go duh please disregard: Recently, our 87 190D has developed a major engine-related vibration. Makes vibration noises from the interior parts never heard before. The thing is suddenly an annoying, vibrating, noisy, cheap-sounding car. Especially bad just upon startup (when of course the engine is a little bit rough-running for a few seconds). Motor mount/s? Didn't happen right away after the accident - wife says it started a couple weeks later. I opened the driver's door during the vibration to see if maybe the car's frame was bent enough to be making the door rub. But thankfully, nope. Brian -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090711/d1 dea8af/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb
Thanks for both posts, Tom. I'll check it when she gets home tonight. Sounds like it could be anything from a bad actuator to a vacuum line problem. How different is taking this door apart than the one in my '81 300SD? That one takes a few screws and an upward tug. My guess is this is a bit more complicated. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb Bill R wrote: When I asked the tech to check out the closer to see what the problem was I was told that he replaced the fuse and it still did not work. When is that fuse located? On the passenger side of the trunk wall, in the center. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb
I have no idea, but the guy at the dealership said that hydraulic pump for that door was bad, and repairs were @ $1,500, if it was a simple repair. We knew that one didn't work when we bought the car, but even though the doors are heavy, they close easily and FL is pretty flat. The other closers seldom get a chance to activate as a pretty gentle push will close them pretty well. My 92 YO 105# MiL has tried a few times to get the closer to activate on her side and always closes the door fully herself. I am the one who doesn't quite close the driver's door. I suppose I'd just like the car to have everything work, and it is annoying that it doesn't, even though my darling wife doesn't seem to care. Guess I need to do some additional checking on that item. If it is just an actuator it wouldn't be much of a problem. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb Bill R wrote: I had them check on the hydraulic pump on the driver's door, and that one seems to be dead. I wonder if the pump is the same for all four doors as a replacement might be available from a donor car somewhere. The other three and the trunk all work fine. You mean the actuator? 140 800 19 75, they're the same front and rear, from '92 to '99. $87.84 from Rusty. Door panel RR is one area which is not an improvement over previous models. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb
No, we didn't pay $17k for it, and we knew the door closer didn't work on that door when we bought it. It does have perfect paint and interior, everything but that automatic closer works, and we have dealer service records from when it was purchased at the dealer. I did find that car for a lot less than we paid, but not looking or driving like this one does. I know that we might discover it was a mistake [an occasional nightmare, even], but I've got more invested in a 'cheap' 300SD that we have had to fix lots of stuff on than this very nice one. I'm taking the gamble that a properly cared for vehicle like this will hold up well. If the actuators are the same on front and rear, have you got a good used one from a LR door? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb They are not hydraulic, they are vacuum. There is a vacuum pump for all the doors, then each door has an actuator. If this is the car you paid 17K for, you paid WAY too much, especially since you are now finding things wrong with it. For that kind of money, the car should have about 40k miles, perfect paint and interior, and everything should work on it. Bill R wrote: I have no idea, but the guy at the dealership said that hydraulic pump for that door was bad, and repairs were @ $1,500, if it was a simple repair. We knew that one didn't work when we bought the car, but even though the doors are heavy, they close easily and FL is pretty flat. The other closers seldom get a chance to activate as a pretty gentle push will close them pretty well. My 92 YO 105# MiL has tried a few times to get the closer to activate on her side and always closes the door fully herself. I am the one who doesn't quite close the driver's door. I suppose I'd just like the car to have everything work, and it is annoying that it doesn't, even though my darling wife doesn't seem to care. Guess I need to do some additional checking on that item. If it is just an actuator it wouldn't be much of a problem. BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb
When I asked the tech to check out the closer to see what the problem was I was told that he replaced the fuse and it still did not work. When is that fuse located? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb So what happens when you pull and reset fuse 9 in the trunk? John On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Bill R billr32...@comcast.net wrote: I have no idea, but the guy at the dealership said that hydraulic pump for that door was bad, and repairs were @ $1,500, if it was a simple repair. We knew that one didn't work when we bought the car, but even though the doors are heavy, they close easily and FL is pretty flat. The other closers seldom get a chance to activate as a pretty gentle push will close them pretty well. My 92 YO 105# MiL has tried a few times to get the closer to activate on her side and always closes the door fully herself. I am the one who doesn't quite close the driver's door. I suppose I'd just like the car to have everything work, and it is annoying that it doesn't, even though my darling wife doesn't seem to care. Guess I need to do some additional checking on that item. If it is just an actuator it wouldn't be much of a problem. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb Bill R wrote: I had them check on the hydraulic pump on the driver's door, and that one seems to be dead. I wonder if the pump is the same for all four doors as a replacement might be available from a donor car somewhere. The other three and the trunk all work fine. You mean the actuator? 140 800 19 75, they're the same front and rear, from '92 to '99. $87.84 from Rusty. Door panel RR is one area which is not an improvement over previous models. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090621/10 059a51/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb
I'm talking about the closer that will pull the door fully closed from about 1/4 inch away. The same function works all four doors and the trunk. The locks work fine. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 9:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: They are not hydraulic, they are vacuum. There is a vacuum pump for all the doors, then each door has an actuator. Are you talking about the locks or the door closers? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB - ?? for Kaleb
Thanks for the info Tom. I've been tied up with my writing project and am a few hundred emails behind once more. I'm figuring out a few things on the S320, though I don't get a lot of opportunity to drive it. I'm just glad my lead footed darling wife doesn't do distance driving anymore [she covered Gainesville to Naples some years ago when she was doing medical case management]. She has already commented that it seems to hit 80 with no encouragement, and when she starts wondering why everyone else on the road is going so slowly she has learned to check the speedometer. I'm sure 140 would be next if she were on the freeway. The activated carbon filter seems to be working ok as I only caught a sniff of smoke once, and I doubt she has stopped just to honor the car. It is a great ride though, and the first car that I would rather drive than my '81 300SD. Each time it has been in for some issue the dealer has filled the tank, also. WE have yet to put any fuel in it, and I suspect they fill it up in hopes that we will not be near them when we first have to do so. We might come back and pound on one of them. I'm not looking for this to save any fuel costs over her I30. That one was bad enough at near 20 MPG, and used regular. I had them check on the hydraulic pump on the driver's door, and that one seems to be dead. I wonder if the pump is the same for all four doors as a replacement might be available from a donor car somewhere. The other three and the trunk all work fine. She says she has noticed that people seem to give her a bit of space when she approaches intersections in this one vs. the I30. KALEB - do you have a good hydraulic pump from a rear door that will fit this thing? BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Savage Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB Bill R wrote: This was dealer maintained all the way, and has factory everything. I have not completely figured out what everything is as yet, but the Parktronic is interesting. Congrats! Good choice on a '97 over a '94. Have you had it up to 100 yet? At the moment my darling wife is out giving the charcoal filter a test run. Though I have never seen her smoke, she has done so since she was a kid. The air filter is automatic in case of too much CO or some other toxin is present, though for her it will be to help with second hand smoke. Personally I wonder how effective it might be with self generated toxic air. We are taking it to Atlanta next month and often stop at a BBQ on the way, so I might find out. There are three cabin filters on a W140. The recirc filter is in the passenger footwell; the main filter is under the hood on top of the blower motor; and the pollen filter behind the evaporator, which is a huge PIA, costs $400, and is probably original and doesn't really work like it is supposed to at this point. None of them are automatic, you have to push a button to turn on the super filter. You should check and replace the two normal filters; dealer service is code for we pretend these don't exist. I did notice one of the hydraulic door closers was not working all the time [drivers door], but that is not something I think of as a necessity. Easiest fix in the world, as John said. You'll miss it when you have to slam those heavy doors closed all the time. The 'clean hand' extending trunk closer handle is also a new one on me. Seems they have come up with a few tricks since my 1981 was built. My favorite of the new tricks (other than the multilink rear suspension and some semblance of rust protection) is the climate control diagnostics. Start it up and hold the rest button for five or so seconds, and cycle through the options with the auto buttons. You'll figure a few of them out, but I can dig up the whole list if you like. Have fun, Tom '98 S420 slightly smashed ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl
I'm still shooting for a FL-Q when you get that thing done. BBQ and plane rides for everybody ... or at least we could watch. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 4:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl I do, not to be confused with Bush. Lots of decorative possibilities and with a new house coming along rather nicely I do have to think about that. Manfred Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:19:10 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: one reason it's bad to have a girl Manfred wrote: Interesting mental image that induces. Probably just my dirty nerve connections up there. You have dirty nerve connections? Hmmm... Oh, you like bush. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] one reason it's bad to have a girl - good books on math
There are a couple of books out for young teen girls to jump start math. Math Doesn't Suck and Kiss My Math. I don't' recall the author at this point and I'm too lazy to walk across the house to look, but the title should find them for you. The author had much of them published in Teen magazine. My wife says they are great, and 10 year old granddaughter seem to like them. Lots of 'silly' quizzes and 'practical' applications that appeal to young teens. Worth a look. You might have heard the interview on NPR a week or so ago. Her current project is a similar book on Algebra. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 1997 LWB S320 [Now I need to decide if my darling wife is a diplomat or a gangster] -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] one reason it's bad to have a girl Only if the boy has been told that he's good at math, and your girl has been told that she's bad at math. If the reverse were true, so would your experience (given that the natural abilities were equal to start with). One of my daughters was told by her third grade teacher that she was bad at math. Despite being #2 in her HS class, and got an A in honors math, she, to this day (she's 32), believes that she's bad at math, and shy's away from it. Her sister, who was never told that crap, was about the same in school, but does believe that she can do math, and she can. You are right, the math is the minor part of that problem - it's more logic. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: My kid comes to me with the following problem and says she doesn't know how to do that math. ten years ago A was three times as old as C this year A is 50 years older than C. how old is A i go to explain to her that this isn't as much a math mystery as it is a problem of defining terms and applying logic. The problem asks us to solve for: the current age of A there are two statements, the subject of which are: 1. the ages of A and C ten years ago 2. the ages of A and C today the problem with solving this question is that people who look at it as a math problem might only see two variables, A and C. there are, however, 4 variables: A(age 10 years ago) or Asub10 C (age 10 years ago) or Csub10 A(age today) or let's just call this A C (age today) or let's just call this C The two statements are saying the following: Asub10=3*Csub10 A-50=C however, as we know by definition the relationship between these variables and can therefore reduce them to two. A-10=Asub10 C-10=Csub10 so the first statement can be expressed A-10=3(C-10) therefore: A-10=3C-30 therefore: A=3C-20 and We also know that: A-50=C therefore: A=C+50 Now we have defined A in terms of two statement about C, that A is both: C+50 and 3C-20 since both of those are the same as A and A is the same as A it follows that C+50=3C-20 therefore 50=2C-20 therefore 2C=70 So we know that C is 35 based the statement A-50=C then A-50=35 which means A=85 if we plug it into our other statement, we can check that A=85 if and only if C=35, so we can be confident that A=85 My kid looks at me like I'm mad and says ok, so you are sure that A is 85 years old, right. i explain that it seems to be a logical certainty and she should see that from the demonstration. to which she replies well, ok, if you are sure, then i'll use that I somehow think a boy might have done better with this -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090616/ba b14289/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] S320 LWB
We took the oft repeated advice from some on the list and paid top dollar for a beautiful example of a 1997 S230 LWB. The car was sold and serviced at the dealer, and kept in wonderful condition by what seems an anal retentive type. Service records are up to date. It has all options for its year, including a phone in the arm rest, and was traded on a new E class. Here's hoping that it is as good as we are led to believe. BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090613/3f8385f2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB
Obviously I don't know much about it yet. Make that a long wheel base S320, not a 230. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:32 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] S320 LWB We took the oft repeated advice from some on the list and paid top dollar for a beautiful example of a 1997 S230 LWB. The car was sold and serviced at the dealer, and kept in wonderful condition by what seems an anal retentive type. Service records are up to date. It has all options for its year, including a phone in the arm rest, and was traded on a new E class. Here's hoping that it is as good as we are led to believe. BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090613/3f 8385f2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB
I'm still in a state of shock that we paid so much for a 1997, but it is one Sue fell in love with at first sight and drive. The variable quick response steering was a surprise, and the tight turning radius. It is safe, and something she can be proud of driving. Her Infinity was showing it's age. It is the S320, and has the LWB option. Lots of room in that back seat. It was not the one with the 20 rims, that one was older with lower mileage and a LOT cheaper. It also had a lot of things starting to go funky on it which suggested to me that it had not been cared for all of its life as this one has. This was dealer maintained all the way, and has factory everything. I have not completely figured out what everything is as yet, but the Parktronic is interesting. At the moment my darling wife is out giving the charcoal filter a test run. Though I have never seen her smoke, she has done so since she was a kid. The air filter is automatic in case of too much CO or some other toxin is present, though for her it will be to help with second hand smoke. Personally I wonder how effective it might be with self generated toxic air. We are taking it to Atlanta next month and often stop at a BBQ on the way, so I might find out. The only bad thing about it in my opinion is that it is black with dark leather interior. Fortunately she has a parking garage at work so it won't be in the sun all day. I'm still loving my 1981 300SD, but I sure would prefer her radio with CD changer and cassette, and even a weather band button. I did notice one of the hydraulic door closers was not working all the time [drivers door], but that is not something I think of as a necessity. The 'clean hand' extending trunk closer handle is also a new one on me. Seems they have come up with a few tricks since my 1981 was built. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB A 230 or a 320? The one with the 20 wheels? Are you keeping those? Congrats and good luck. ;) Is it really LWB? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] S320 LWB We took the oft repeated advice from some on the list and paid top dollar for a beautiful example of a 1997 S230 LWB. The car was sold and serviced at the dealer, and kept in wonderful condition by what seems an anal retentive type. Service records are up to date. It has all options for its year, including a phone in the arm rest, and was traded on a new E class. Here's hoping that it is as good as we are led to believe. BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090613/3f 8385f2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB
I'm told by another list member that this is a 140. No idea what the last one was. I lost track after the 126 myself. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB 'Sounds nice. Ive forgotten when was last model 140. Is this a 140? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB I'm still in a state of shock that we paid so much for a 1997, but it is one Sue fell in love with at first sight and drive. The variable quick response steering was a surprise, and the tight turning radius. It is safe, and something she can be proud of driving. Her Infinity was showing it's age. It is the S320, and has the LWB option. Lots of room in that back seat. It was not the one with the 20 rims, that one was older with lower mileage and a LOT cheaper. It also had a lot of things starting to go funky on it which suggested to me that it had not been cared for all of its life as this one has. This was dealer maintained all the way, and has factory everything. I have not completely figured out what everything is as yet, but the Parktronic is interesting. At the moment my darling wife is out giving the charcoal filter a test run. Though I have never seen her smoke, she has done so since she was a kid. The air filter is automatic in case of too much CO or some other toxin is present, though for her it will be to help with second hand smoke. Personally I wonder how effective it might be with self generated toxic air. We are taking it to Atlanta next month and often stop at a BBQ on the way, so I might find out. The only bad thing about it in my opinion is that it is black with dark leather interior. Fortunately she has a parking garage at work so it won't be in the sun all day. I'm still loving my 1981 300SD, but I sure would prefer her radio with CD changer and cassette, and even a weather band button. I did notice one of the hydraulic door closers was not working all the time [drivers door], but that is not something I think of as a necessity. The 'clean hand' extending trunk closer handle is also a new one on me. Seems they have come up with a few tricks since my 1981 was built. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB A 230 or a 320? The one with the 20 wheels? Are you keeping those? Congrats and good luck. ;) Is it really LWB? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] S320 LWB We took the oft repeated advice from some on the list and paid top dollar for a beautiful example of a 1997 S230 LWB. The car was sold and serviced at the dealer, and kept in wonderful condition by what seems an anal retentive type. Service records are up to date. It has all options for its year, including a phone in the arm rest, and was traded on a new E class. Here's hoping that it is as good as we are led to believe. BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090613/3f 8385f2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB
Thanks Wilton, Dave and Ed. Let's just say we own much of it. Decided to finance part of it rather than strip down savings that much. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB Congrats on the new car, I'm sure if will serve you and your wife well for years to come. They are really great cars, and I'm sure you're both proud, as you should be, to own it. Happy motoring!! Ed 300E 2009/6/13 Bill R billr32...@comcast.net I'm still in a state of shock that we paid so much for a 1997, but it is one Sue fell in love with at first sight and drive. The variable quick response steering was a surprise, and the tight turning radius. It is safe, and something she can be proud of driving. Her Infinity was showing it's age. It is the S320, and has the LWB option. Lots of room in that back seat. It was not the one with the 20 rims, that one was older with lower mileage and a LOT cheaper. It also had a lot of things starting to go funky on it which suggested to me that it had not been cared for all of its life as this one has. This was dealer maintained all the way, and has factory everything. I have not completely figured out what everything is as yet, but the Parktronic is interesting. At the moment my darling wife is out giving the charcoal filter a test run. Though I have never seen her smoke, she has done so since she was a kid. The air filter is automatic in case of too much CO or some other toxin is present, though for her it will be to help with second hand smoke. Personally I wonder how effective it might be with self generated toxic air. We are taking it to Atlanta next month and often stop at a BBQ on the way, so I might find out. The only bad thing about it in my opinion is that it is black with dark leather interior. Fortunately she has a parking garage at work so it won't be in the sun all day. I'm still loving my 1981 300SD, but I sure would prefer her radio with CD changer and cassette, and even a weather band button. I did notice one of the hydraulic door closers was not working all the time [drivers door], but that is not something I think of as a necessity. The 'clean hand' extending trunk closer handle is also a new one on me. Seems they have come up with a few tricks since my 1981 was built. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] S320 LWB A 230 or a 320? The one with the 20 wheels? Are you keeping those? Congrats and good luck. ;) Is it really LWB? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 4:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] S320 LWB We took the oft repeated advice from some on the list and paid top dollar for a beautiful example of a 1997 S230 LWB. The car was sold and serviced at the dealer, and kept in wonderful condition by what seems an anal retentive type. Service records are up to date. It has all options for its year, including a phone in the arm rest, and was traded on a new E class. Here's hoping that it is as good as we are led to believe. BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090613/3f 8385f2/attachment.htmlhttp://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/a ttachments/20090613/3f%0A8385f2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090613/8f 5f3129/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe
[MBZ] S320, part two
First, apologies to any who responded and I didn't see it. I had cataract surgery on my other eye on Wed, and have not been able to read computer screens since, at least not normal size ones. I can copy and paste and enlarge, if I could tell it was something I needed to do that with, out of the couple of hundred I get a day. I looked at the 1994 S320 today. 140k miles and really in pretty good shape inside and out - except for the rather gaudy new 20 rims and tires. A few somewhat minor [could I do the repairs] items. Nice dash and wood [for the most part]. He is asking $5,500 with a rebuilt transmission. Runs well. For a few hundred bucks it would be a pretty nice car. It is a gamble I am not sure I want to take. The dealer has a 1997 S320 with 152K miles. They have it on the used car showroom floor. It would take a mechanic to tell it from a new car in most respects. The only way I could was a few dings on the edge of the driver's door. They sold and serviced it, but also want $17k for theirs. We don't want to spend that much $. We are going to look at a Compass this weekend, and we will go back together to look at the S320. If my darling wife likes it that might be what we get. It will have to pass a professional inspection first, though.. Eyes are much better today now that the physician induced paralysis is gone, but not good yet. Bleah BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090612/6e11d2d4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1994 S320
After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/034667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320
I have not asked, but I'd sure start there. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1994 S320 I wouldn't be caught near it with those 20 wheels on it - somebody may interpret it as approval. Did they save the original wheels? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1994 S320 After the Compass / CVR / Rav4 /Subaru looking one of the folks my wife works with just listed a 1994 S320 for $5,500, but 'will make me a good deal on it'. It is a third car and is not being driven. From the total mileage it has been driven less than 10k per year over its life. He had the transmission redone last year - and [unfortunately] put on new 20 tires and custom rims. He says the paint and interior are perfect and everything works. He also claims to be able to get as high as 28 MPG highway with an easy foot on the pedal, but does say when you put your foot in it, it does not get good mileage. I suspect the rims will probably turn us off, but if the rest of the car is not too scary we might pay to have an evaluation done. I can't recall if this is one of the ones with wiring harness problems, and I know that this model has a history of evaporator problems and I think oil leaks from the head. What other thoughts about the good and bad do you have about this car? Thanks - BillR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090611/03 4667de/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
