[MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Mitch Haley

When did the W201 get promoted to E-Class?



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has
recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?

(Me).

How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?

The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on
it and came and bought it today.

This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.

Brian

On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread John Freer

Why would you think that? This is a great looking car and will sell in
a New Your Minute!

I would be bidding up to 5K or so if I were in the market.

On 5/30/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has
recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?

(Me).

How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?

The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on
it and came and bought it today.

This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.

Brian

On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Are you talking about why I would think that the maint. has not been done? I
just assume it has not been done because he probably would claim it, if it
had been done.

BTW, I'm talking about things like timing chain, flex discs, and the sort of
things a 250k mi. car needs (or so I've recently been told).

I sure hope the bid does not go anywhere near $5k. I don't think I would pay
that much for such a high mileage car on which I don't know the history.

Brian


On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Why would you think that? This is a great looking car and will sell in
a New Your Minute!

I would be bidding up to 5K or so if I were in the market.

On 5/30/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has
 recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?

 (Me).

 How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?

 The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
 preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit
on
 it and came and bought it today.

 This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.

 Brian

 On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
  --
  Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
  http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody 
will come in and buy it.


Zoltan Finks wrote:

Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has
recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?

(Me).

How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?

The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on
it and came and bought it today.

This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.

Brian

On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
250k is not high miles for these cars.  Not all 250k cars are going to 
need timing chains and flex disks.  They should be checked, but might 
not have to be replaced.


Zoltan Finks wrote:

Are you talking about why I would think that the maint. has not been done? I
just assume it has not been done because he probably would claim it, if it
had been done.

BTW, I'm talking about things like timing chain, flex discs, and the sort of
things a 250k mi. car needs (or so I've recently been told).

I sure hope the bid does not go anywhere near $5k. I don't think I would pay
that much for such a high mileage car on which I don't know the history.

Brian


--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my
wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.

So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
automatically.

Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize
that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be
considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants
to sell.

Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this
one though.

Brian


On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody
will come in and buy it.

Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has
 recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?

 (Me).

 How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?

 The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
 preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit
on
 it and came and bought it today.

 This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.

 Brian

 On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
 http://www.okiebenz.com
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92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread John Freer

So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise
the bar here!

On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my
wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.

So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
automatically.

Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize
that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be
considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants
to sell.

Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this
one though.

Brian


On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody
 will come in and buy it.

 Zoltan Finks wrote:
  Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has
  recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?
 
  (Me).
 
  How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?
 
  The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
  preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit
 on
  it and came and bought it today.
 
  This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.
 
  Brian
 
  On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
  --
  Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
  http://www.okiebenz.com
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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Kevin
It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your
wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid,
either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. If you don't,
then it went for more than you were willing to spend, so who cares?

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:00:42AM -0700, John Freer wrote:
 So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise
 the bar here!
 
 On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my
  wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.
 
  So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
  automatically.
 
  Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize
  that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be
  considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants
  to sell.
 
  Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this
  one though.



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning!

So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter
our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is
now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid?

Brian


On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise
the bar here!

On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my
 wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by
$10
 automatically.

 Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to
realize
 that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can
be
 considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone
wants
 to sell.

 Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for
this
 one though.

 Brian


 On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody
  will come in and buy it.
 
  Zoltan Finks wrote:
   Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and
has
   recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?
  
   (Me).
  
   How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?
  
   The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
   preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a
deposit
  on
   it and came and bought it today.
  
   This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.
  
   Brian
  
   On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
   --
   Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
   89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
   http://www.okiebenz.com
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  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Okay, your message came in just as I was asking the question.
Brian


On 5/31/07, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and
your
wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid,
either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. If you
don't,
then it went for more than you were willing to spend, so who cares?

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:00:42AM -0700, John Freer wrote:
 So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise
 the bar here!

 On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that
my
  wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.
 
  So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by
$10
  automatically.
 
  Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to
realize
  that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd.
can be
  considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone
wants
  to sell.
 
  Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for
this
  one though.

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread BillR
Yes, they will accept a higher bid.  There is even a button to do that after
you have bid.
BillR

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning!

So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter
our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is
now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid?

Brian


On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise
 the bar here!

 On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my
  wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.
 
  So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by
 $10
  automatically.
 
  Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to
 realize
  that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can
 be
  considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone
 wants
  to sell.
 
  Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for
 this
  one though.
 
  Brian
 
 
  On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody
   will come in and buy it.
  
   Zoltan Finks wrote:
Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and
 has
recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?
   
(Me).
   
How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?
   
The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a
 deposit
   on
it and came and bought it today.
   
This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.
   
Brian
   
On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES
-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategory
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread OK Don

Yes - you can alway bid again with a higher amount.

On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning!

So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter
our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is
now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid?

Brian


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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Allan Streib
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
 automatically.

about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
bid you'd be willing to pay.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Allan Streib
That said, I've never, *ever* won an auction on eBay.  I have bought a
few things with buy it now prices, but for anything else it seems
there's always someone else in the world who is willing to pay more
than I am.

Good luck.

Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
 automatically.

 about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
 bid you'd be willing to pay.

 Allan




Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to
disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their innatention?

I feel dirty.

Yes, Allan, it does seem that due to the sheer number of people in
competition for an item, that plain old luck comes into play - a bit of
playing the lottery almost.

Brian

On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by
$10
 automatically.

about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
bid you'd be willing to pay.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Allan Streib
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to
 disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their
 innatention?

If you do end up being the high bidder, it gives people less time to
think well OK, I'll pay $10 more ... 

To really get in under the wire you'll need to use one of the snipe
sites.  They place your bid in the final seconds of the auction.

If you're doing it manually with a browser, you need to leave enough
time cushion for your browser to actually post the page to eBay.  Also
as I recall, when you place a bid you have to re-confirm your password
so you need to allow time to do that and anything else in their
process.  Be sure you are doing all this according to eBay's clock,
not your own local computer clock which is likely at least a few
seconds different.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread BillR
30 seconds is way too long for snipers and people like me who just watch the
time.  Best to test out the speed of you bid being accepted, though, so you
don't get the 'Auction has already ended message.
BillR

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Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
 automatically.

about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
bid you'd be willing to pay.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
 automatically.

about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
bid you'd be willing to pay.



As I've said before, this doesn't work.

The problem has to do with the definition of willing to pay---it
isn't black or white, and eBay's (broken) auction model forces you to
pretend that it is.

Say you put in $500 as your maximum bid, and another bidder snipes you
at the last minute with  a bid of $501.  If the item was worth $500 to
you, it was probably worth the $502 that you would have had to have
bid in order to win.  It probably wasn't worth $1,000 (which is why
you didn't put that down as your max bid in the first place).  In
between is a gray area where the higher the price, the less your
desire to pay it.

eBay should extend the auction time limit as long as there are higher
bids coming in.  The system as it stands is just plain broken, and
encourages sniping to the extent that in effect the auction idea is
a joke---it's really a buy at a fixed price but you have to wait and
guess what that fixed price is going to be at the last moment system.
That's how I treat it---and I'm much more likely these days to buy an
item at the Buy it Now price than play eBay's silly game.

Alex Chamberlain
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'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its probably worth 2k maybe 2500.  I of course wait till I get them for 
$500.  If you want an ugly one I have one here


Zoltan Finks wrote:

 Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my
wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.

So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
automatically.

Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize
that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be
considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants
to sell.

Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this
one though.

Brian




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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you can, but more likely you will get out bid.  Use a snipe program such 
as www.auctionstealer.com


Zoltan Finks wrote:

Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning!

So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter
our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is
now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid?

Brian


On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise
the bar here!

On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my
wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.

So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by

$10

automatically.

Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to

realize

that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can

be

considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone

wants

to sell.

Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for

this

one though.

Brian


On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody
will come in and buy it.

Zoltan Finks wrote:

Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and

has

recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?

(Me).

How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?

The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a

deposit

on

it and came and bought it today.

This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.

Brian

On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread BillR
Somewhat, but most folks have been around that block a few times.  IMHO the
ideal bid goes in too late to accept a higher bid from someone else.  That
sort of thing is for the 'fun stuff' you don't care that much about.  If you
really want it then put in your maximum bid.  Another 'sneaky' way is to way
overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid $150 on a $50 item in the last few
seconds.  That ended up costing me about an extra $10 before the bidding was
over - but it was for something that was worth it to me.  That will usually
work - but someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot
of money.  Do it carefully.
BillR  [302 with 100% positive rating] 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to
disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their innatention?

I feel dirty.

Yes, Allan, it does seem that due to the sheer number of people in
competition for an item, that plain old luck comes into play - a bit of
playing the lottery almost.

Brian

On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by
 $10
  automatically.

 about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
 bid you'd be willing to pay.

 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I sold my suburban on ebay last week.  It went from something like 2700 
to 3400 within the last 10 seconds.  I was watching it as it ended and I 
just kept kitting refresh and everytime it would be several hundred 
more.  That was cool.


BillR wrote:

30 seconds is way too long for snipers and people like me who just watch the
time.  Best to test out the speed of you bid being accepted, though, so you
don't get the 'Auction has already ended message.
BillR

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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10
automatically.


about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
bid you'd be willing to pay.

Allan



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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread John Freer

Look at the bottom of your Watch Page.something new has been added.

On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 eBay should extend the auction time limit as long as there are
 higher bids coming in.

I absolutely agree.  The current system benefits nobody but the
sniping services, who of course would be out of business if ebay
changed their model.  I wonder if eBay also owns the sniping sites?

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Allan Streib
I actually use eBay about twice a year.  I would not know what's new
or not new since there are almost always changes every time I come
back.

Can you be a little more explicit?

John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Look at the bottom of your Watch Page.something new has been
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Mitch Haley


Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 eBay should extend the auction time limit as long as there are higher
 bids coming in.  The system as it stands is just plain broken, and
 encourages sniping to the extent that in effect the auction idea is
 a joke--

Ebay is supposed to be an open outcry auction, but with a senseless
time limit. Because of the time limit, the customers have converted it
to a sealed bid auction. They do this by placing bids too late for others
to see and react to them before time is up. Those who don't like the way the
game is run cry foul (or sniping). 

The obvious solution is a going, going, gone format.



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
Unless you want to hover over the final minutes of the auction, or get one 
of those crazy bidding helper thingy programs it's best to just put in how 
much you're willing to pay and let nature take it's course. Of course I'm no 
ebay vet.


Bob R.


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From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D



Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to
disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their innatention?

I feel dirty.

Yes, Allan, it does seem that due to the sheer number of people in
competition for an item, that plain old luck comes into play - a bit of
playing the lottery almost.

Brian

On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by
$10
 automatically.

about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum
bid you'd be willing to pay.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Mitch Haley


Kevin wrote:
 
 It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your
 wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid,
 either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy.

...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a
2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had
a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was
coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it only
howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been closer
than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and passed.
The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the diff
from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around.



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes.

You pay up front for a nice one or you pay much more over the following
few months for a fixer-upper. That is, unless you own land adjoining
Kaleb's property  you go on recon missions.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
 
Original Message
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05/31/07 01:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Kevin wrote:
 
 It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you
and your
 wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum
bid,
 either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy.

...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a
2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had
a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was
coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it only
howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been
closer
than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and
passed.
The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the diff
from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around.

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:42:00 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 its probably worth 2k maybe 2500.  I of course wait till I get them for 
 $500.  If you want an ugly one I have one here

How ugly is ugly? Is it also a 190D/2.5?


Craig



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Bill, I'm afraid I don't understand the technique you describe here. Do you
retract your bid or something?

Brian

Bill wrote:
Another 'sneaky' way is to way
overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid $150 on a $50 item in the last few
seconds.  That ended up costing me about an extra $10 before the bidding was
over - but it was for something that was worth it to me.  That will usually
work - but someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot
of money.  Do it carefully.


Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

The question is, of course, when you pay up front for a nice one, how do you
know you are paying for a nice one and not, as someone has just put it, a
nicely polished turd?

We are indeed willing to pay good money for a good car here, not really
looking for a cheapie. I don't work on cars much, and my wife wants a truly
nice looking car to occasionally drive colleagues around in.

Brian


On 5/31/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes.

You pay up front for a nice one or you pay much more over the following
few months for a fixer-upper. That is, unless you own land adjoining
Kaleb's property  you go on recon missions.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05/31/07 01:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
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Kevin wrote:

 It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you
and your
 wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum
bid,
 either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy.

...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a
2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had
a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was
coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it only
howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been
closer
than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and
passed.
The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the diff
from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around.

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Yes, I was going to ask essentially the same thing. If it just needs a paint
job and maybe has a few small interior flaws, but is mechanically sound, I
would want to find out more.

brian


On 5/31/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:42:00 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 its probably worth 2k maybe 2500.  I of course wait till I get them for
 $500.  If you want an ugly one I have one here

How ugly is ugly? Is it also a 190D/2.5?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Zoltan Finks

Okay, I know - a lot of questions coming from me, but I'm learning here. So
with this sniping service, it is actually free as the website says, no
tricks? I ask you because I assume you have used it or know someone who
does.

It looks like it wants me to enter a time at which to bid. I thought it just
bid at the last possible second before auction closing or something.

And I assume that if more than one person i the auction is using a sniping
service, that it just comes down to whichever command goes through
cyberspace first?

Brian

On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


you can, but more likely you will get out bid.  Use a snipe program such
as www.auctionstealer.com

Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning!

 So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply
enter
 our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max
is
 now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid?

 Brian


 On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise
 the bar here!

 On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that
my
 wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance.

 So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by
 $10
 automatically.

 Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to
 realize
 that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd.
can
 be
 considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone
 wants
 to sell.

 Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for
 this
 one though.

 Brian


 On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around,
somebody
 will come in and buy it.

 Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and
 has
 recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic?

 (Me).

 How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb?

 The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable
 preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a
 deposit
 on
 it and came and bought it today.

 This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done.

 Brian

 On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Allan Streib
I think he's saying you just place a ridiculously high maximum bid,
knowing that ebay will only bid up until you are the high bidder, or
you reach your maximum, whichever happens first.

However if someone else is playing the same game, and you happen to
still come out on top, then you've really put yourself in a bind.

I wouldn't try it, myself.  It's just a car, another will come along
soon enough if you don't get this one.

Allan

Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Bill, I'm afraid I don't understand the technique you describe here. Do you
 retract your bid or something?

 Brian

 Bill wrote:

 Another 'sneaky' way is to way overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid
 $150 on a $50 item in the last few seconds.  That ended up costing
 me about an extra $10 before the bidding was over - but it was for
 something that was worth it to me.  That will usually work - but
 someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot of
 money.  Do it carefully.

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Allan Streib
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The question is, of course, when you pay up front for a nice one,
 how do you know you are paying for a nice one and not, as someone
 has just put it, a nicely polished turd?

NOW your getting at the heart of the problem I have with buying
big-ticket items on eBay.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:05:30 -0500 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And I assume that if more than one person i the auction is using a
 sniping service, that it just comes down to whichever command goes
 through cyberspace first?

The first one with the same or a higher bid wins.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
If you purchase a nice looking Mercedes without checking it out or haing
it gone over by a qualified mechanic and it turns into a shiny turd then
shame on you. This is the one reason I do not bid on higher priced eBay
cars.

I will look at 50 or more old mercedes before happily paying too much
for one then I will drive that expensive mercedes for 150,000 miles
for less cost per mile than most other cars will cost.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: 5/31/07 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

The question is, of course, when you pay up front for a nice one, how do
you
know you are paying for a nice one and not, as someone has just put it,
a
nicely polished turd?

We are indeed willing to pay good money for a good car here, not really
looking for a cheapie. I don't work on cars much, and my wife wants a
truly
nice looking car to occasionally drive colleagues around in.

Brian


On 5/31/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes.

 You pay up front for a nice one or you pay much more over the
following
 few months for a fixer-upper. That is, unless you own land adjoining
 Kaleb's property  you go on recon missions.

 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com

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 Sent: 05/31/07 01:15 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


 Kevin wrote:
 
  It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you
 and your
  wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum
 bid,
  either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy.

 ...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a
 2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had
 a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was
 coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it
only
 howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been
 closer
 than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and
 passed.
 The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the
diff
 from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around.

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Okay, I know - a lot of questions coming from me, but I'm learning here. So
with this sniping service, it is actually free as the website says, no
tricks? I ask you because I assume you have used it or know someone who
does.


With esnipe.com, which I've used a time or two, you have to pay a
small percentage of the final price.



It looks like it wants me to enter a time at which to bid. I thought it just
bid at the last possible second before auction closing or something.


Yeah, but you get to pick the last possible second---balancing the
risk of an unforseen delay between the two computers (the snipe
service's and eBay's) against the risk that someone else will cut it
closer than you and out-snipe you.



And I assume that if more than one person i the auction is using a sniping
service, that it just comes down to whichever command goes through
cyberspace first?


Exactly.

Alex Chamberlain



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread Bob Rentfro

Mitch reminded us:

provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. 


That's the inherent ebay risk.

Bob R.never been turded yet




Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2007-05-31 Thread BillR
No, I have never retracted a bid.  This particular idea is based on
processing time for something that you really want that you can't get
reasonably otherwise.  The particular item I was buying usually sold for $50
- $75, and I wanted it now.  New was well over $100.  I stayed in the
bidding [so I wouldn't have to renew my identity more than minimally].  I
was near the top bidder anyway, so I just waited until the last 10 - 15
seconds and bid what would have been a moderately high price for a new one.
There were two other 'snipes' of $5 over current high bid that came in after
mine, but the time expired before any more than two bids could be processed.
I would have been upset at having to pay $150 for it, but was prepared to
accept that if someone else was doing the same thing I was.  Something I
rarely do, but have only been beaten on once.  I was bidding on an item for
my Benz that often sold for $40 - $70.  I bid too early though and upped the
bid about 45 seconds early.  That 'early' bid let someone else do the same
thing to me - he ended up paying about $115 for an item he was planning to
get for $50, which was the bid 60 seconds from the end of the auction.
Worth it to him I suppose, and a lesson for me.  Rather than bid in $5
increments as most do he upped his bid by $50 twice [I think] I never
deviate from the rules, and usually have paid for the item within a minute
of winning it.
Bill   

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On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

Bill, I'm afraid I don't understand the technique you describe here. Do you
retract your bid or something?

Brian

Bill wrote:
Another 'sneaky' way is to way
overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid $150 on a $50 item in the last few
seconds.  That ended up costing me about an extra $10 before the bidding was
over - but it was for something that was worth it to me.  That will usually
work - but someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot
of money.  Do it carefully.
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[MBZ] cheap 190D with bad trans

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-11-19 Thread Zoltan Finks

A million miles. Um, not without a new engine and tranny, and most of the
other things too.

So it has 277k. I don't think we'd pay $2200. for it. Maybe $800 if it
checke out.

We would've been tempted if we hadn't found our 240D. It's got a MN plate.

Brian
83 240D

On 11/16/06, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I sometimes wonder if they even read what they are writing.

Chris K
Cayce, SC




The powerful 2.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel engine not only offers plenty of
power,...

This 1984 190D diesel is guaranteed to make its new owners more then
happy
with their buy. AS IS-NO WARRANTY.


Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-MB-190D-2-2L-1984-Mercedes-190D-2-2L_W0QQitemZ130048468017QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 --
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  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
  87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-11-19 Thread Zoltan Finks

Hmm. We just found out that that thing is just 3 or 4 miles from us.

Is that ACC?

Brian


On 11/18/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


A million miles. Um, not without a new engine and tranny, and most of the
other things too.

So it has 277k. I don't think we'd pay $2200. for it. Maybe $800 if it
checke out.

We would've been tempted if we hadn't found our 240D. It's got a MN plate.

Brian
83 240D

 On 11/16/06, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I sometimes wonder if they even read what they are writing.

 Chris K
 Cayce, SC




 The powerful 2.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel engine not only offers plenty
 of
 power,...

 This 1984 190D diesel is guaranteed to make its new owners more then
 happy
 with their buy. AS IS-NO WARRANTY.


 Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D


 
 
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   91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
   87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-11-19 Thread Zoltan Finks

Me again.

We found a black 1992 300SD at that dealership too. Cool car.

Brian


On 11/18/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hmm. We just found out that that thing is just 3 or 4 miles from us.

Is that ACC?

Brian


 On 11/18/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A million miles. Um, not without a new engine and tranny, and most of
 the other things too.

 So it has 277k. I don't think we'd pay $2200. for it. Maybe $800 if it
 checke out.

 We would've been tempted if we hadn't found our 240D. It's got a MN
 plate.

 Brian
 83 240D

  On 11/16/06, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  I sometimes wonder if they even read what they are writing.
 
  Chris K
  Cayce, SC
 
 
 
 
  The powerful 2.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel engine not only offers
  plenty of
  power,...
 
  This 1984 190D diesel is guaranteed to make its new owners more then
  happy
  with their buy. AS IS-NO WARRANTY.
 
 
  Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D
 
 
  
  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-MB-190D-2-2L-1984-Mercedes-190D-2-2L_W0QQitemZ130048468017QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-11-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-MB-190D-2-2L-1984-Mercedes-190D-2-2L_W0QQitemZ130048468017QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-11-17 Thread Chris Kueny

I sometimes wonder if they even read what they are writing.

Chris K
Cayce, SC




The powerful 2.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel engine not only offers plenty of 
power,...


This 1984 190D diesel is guaranteed to make its new owners more then happy 
with their buy. AS IS-NO WARRANTY.



Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-MB-190D-2-2L-1984-Mercedes-190D-2-2L_W0QQitemZ130048468017QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL,
 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] CHEAP 190D stick

2006-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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Tom Hargrave wrote:


 I've been looking for one around here and the bottom end price for a
 complete, un-restored, rust free beetle from the mid-60s through the 70s is
 about $3,500.00. A nice restored example can bring $4,500.00++. Nice
 restored convertibles are going for $12,000.00++.



Try sniffing around Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona. Plenty of rust-free
beetles live there. Should be able to get one unrestored for well under
$3,500, depending on year (the ones prior to 68 are the best.)

Lee



[MBZ] Cheap 190D Stick

2006-10-01 Thread Rick Knoble
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/214266915.html

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT


Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190d

2006-04-13 Thread John Berryman


On Apr 12, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-190- 
D_W0QQitemZ4629305506QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI 
tem


No affiliation, ect.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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	No way it has only 118,000 mi with all that shit wrong with it.  
Unless maybe if it spent half its life submerged in salt water.


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[MBZ] Cheap 190d

2006-04-12 Thread Rick Knoble
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-190-D_W0QQitemZ4629305506QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

No affiliation, ect.
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'87 190 DT
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Can't help you with Rover experience aside from mentioning that a friend of
a friend put a 350 in one.

Your everything old is new again comment is poignant. I remember not too
long ago that the big old muscle cars were much berated and there was talk
of some Washington legislation that would have them all crushed. Seems funny
now that one of the most desirable things is new cars that are mock old
cars. The Mustang, Thunderbird, and this Land Criuser, to name a few attempt
to look just like their predecessors.

I'm greatly disappointed that when Chrysler finally brought back the
Charger, it looks nothing like one, and is in fact ugly. On the other hand,
have you seen the Challenger concept car?

Brian
83 240D


On 4/12/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everything old is new again.
 http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/
 Based on the 4Runner so bigger than the original I'd think.

 I'd surely love to have about an '80 FJ. One downside that springs to mind
 immediately if you regularly haul people is the rear jumpseats.
 I saw an article once about putting a later model 4 banger in one in place
 of the low compression, low horsepower I6. They said it had more power and
 much better mileage with the 4.

 On a slightly related note theres a '72 Land Cruiser at a local lot which
 my wife has fallen in love with. Its in very good shape, I took some time to
 crawl around under it and the frame is solid with good paint. Our Dodge
 Dakota is going to need replacing in the next 1-3 years (185k with the rust
 monster encroaching) and I'm into cool vehicles like the cruiser plus my
 wife only drives a few miles a day. Anybody got Rover experience?

 -Curt

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 I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It
 was a
 new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land
 Cruiser
 - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like
 turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land
 Cruisers
 seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware
 of
 this new vehicle.

 Brian
 83 240D



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[MBZ] Cheap 190d

2006-04-09 Thread Rick Knoble
Almost over, 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/023108826_W0QQitemZ4627821012QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Rick Knoble 
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Thanks for the advice everyone.  When I can get into this thing I';; let you
know what happens.
BillR

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BillR wrote:
 It does have the dreaded pull start Briggs  Stratton engine that I
 have had such a hard time starting in the past.  Do any of you have
 any comments about getting it started?

Put in a new spark plug, or at least wire-brush the one that's in there.
 Gap it to specs.  This is a magneto ignition so the gap spec is usually
pretty small -- too big a gap and it won't fire.  Get some fresh gas in
there, too.

Some of these engines have primers, and some have a manual choke.  The
choke, if equipped, is usually a small lever on the carb, the primer is
usually a small rubber button.  They tend to be critical to getting the
thing to start on the first pull or two.  For a cold start, if it has a
choke set it on full.  If it has a primer, try three to five strokes.

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[MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mechanics-SPECIAL-190-TURBO-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4626749011QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage
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 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread OK Don
I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mechanics-SPECIAL-190-TURBO-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4626749011QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK


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Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote:
 
 I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I don't know. My 190 turbo has a hood star and working tranny, and
the same color interior, but I'm not traveling to Maryland to pick
up another project car.



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kevin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
 I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 

K



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

the 722.4 does not have a b2 piston

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:


I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?



I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 


K

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 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
  I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?
 
 I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
 immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.

And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


 Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


	We have a 2.5 NA. I did look it over thinking all the goodies would  
be there to convert ours or another, possibly throwing a 5spd into  
the mix. This particular car is really clapped out and ~ 600 miles  
away. I'm going to finish present projects, then look for something  
fun like that.
	In this way I would not stress-out my excellent Wife. She  
will,however want me to get into a fun project that she can also  
enjoy. She has recently suggested we overhaul my old Harley FLH  
together and do a little touring in the future. I am a lucky man to  
have her in my life. In my wildest dreams I never thought it could be  
this good.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?


I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 


The B-2 piston shattering was unique to the 722.3 transmissions, but the 
 722.4 B-2 pistons or bands CAN fail and the resulting symptom is 
exactly the same. They don't fail nearly as often because the parts were 
redesigned (just as the revised, replacement 722.3 parts were).


Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Mitch Haley wrote:

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.


And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


The 722 series transmissions wear every time they shift and hardly wear 
at all while in gear running. So to minimize transmission wear, minimize 
shifting. During the 10 years I was driving from Pittsburgh to 
Washington DC and back weekly, I counted the number of shifts that my 
300TD made on the trip and the number of shifts that my 190Ds (with 
automatics) made. The 190D shifted not quite twice as often. Around town 
the number of shifts was much closer to the same.


That corresponds with the average life of the a 722.4 transmission in a 
201 vs a 722.3 transmission in a 123/124/126. In city driving, both 
transmissions give similar life (150-200kmi), but in highway service, 
the average 722.3 transmission will last quite a bit longer (all other 
things being equal). I believe that the BIGGEST factor is engine power. 
The more powerful engines allow the transmission to last longer by 
allowing the engine to propel the car satisfactorily with many fewer shifts!


Marshall


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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-mercedes-190D-Diesel-Super- 
mileage-little- 
work_W0QQitemZ8046512254QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


There went my next generator!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine

2006-03-21 Thread Zeitgeist
Failure to properly apply anti-seize?

On 3/21/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730

 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock.

 Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over?

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (212k)
'84 300D (211k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)



Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine

2006-03-21 Thread Dave Wakin

I was thinking either that or he forgot to change the fuses

Dave

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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine



Failure to properly apply anti-seize?

On 3/21/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730

Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock.

Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over?


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (212k)
'84 300D (211k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine

2006-03-21 Thread R A Bennell
Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes.

Causes of seizure:

1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck and 
they kept going;
2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check it 
often enough (one of my nephews did
that with a late model Chevy pickup); or
3. something broke and has jammed the works

Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to buy 
a used engine and install it

Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys don't 
like to sit around too long not
being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using them 
they last longer than if they sit and
wait for you to fix the car)

And who knows what else it needs?

Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens.

Randy B

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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730

Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock.

Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over?

Dave W

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine

2006-03-21 Thread Marshall Booth

Dave Wakin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730

Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock.

Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over?


Snapped rod, snapped chain, overheated from no water or no oil, will all 
do it and then there are a few much, much less likely possibilities. 
Dave Quay (Atlanta-Stuttgart recycler) bought a low mileage '87 300D 
with a seized engine to dismantle. Once they removed the serp belt, the 
engine turned just fine. He replaced the alternator and his wife Beth 
used the car for years.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine

2006-03-21 Thread Mike Canfield
BULL..My $500 82 240D was one of the best cars I ever owned.  There are 
people who sell great things for little money because they are ignorant or 
just plain tired of it all over the place.  Just have to look and see if 
it's a good deal.



- Original Message - 
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine



Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes.

Causes of seizure:

1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck 
and they kept going;
2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check 
it often enough (one of my nephews did

that with a late model Chevy pickup); or
3. something broke and has jammed the works

Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to 
buy a used engine and install it


Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys 
don't like to sit around too long not
being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using 
them they last longer than if they sit and

wait for you to fix the car)

And who knows what else it needs?

Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens.

Randy B

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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730

Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock.

Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over?

Dave W

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine

2006-03-21 Thread R A Bennell
OK, I'll bite. What do you think your odds are if you buy off ebay without 
actually being able to inspect the car?
I'm not that much of a gambler. If the price is cheap enough to justify the 
worst case scenario then maybe but I'd
hate to pay anything significant on a hunch that a cheap fix will make it 
good.

Randy B

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:38 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine


BULL..My $500 82 240D was one of the best cars I ever owned.  There are
people who sell great things for little money because they are ignorant or
just plain tired of it all over the place.  Just have to look and see if
it's a good deal.


- Original Message -
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine


 Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes.

 Causes of seizure:

 1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck
 and they kept going;
 2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check
 it often enough (one of my nephews did
 that with a late model Chevy pickup); or
 3. something broke and has jammed the works

 Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to
 buy a used engine and install it

 Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys
 don't like to sit around too long not
 being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using
 them they last longer than if they sit and
 wait for you to fix the car)

 And who knows what else it needs?

 Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens.

 Randy B

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin
 Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730

 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock.

 Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over?

 Dave W

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[MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-03-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-mercedes-190D-Diesel-Super-mileage-little-work_W0QQitemZ8046512254QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190D-2-5-TURBO_W0QQitemZ4608323992QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-01-29 Thread Bob Rentfro

Why can't that be closer?

Bob Rentfro (looking for a friend for the 300D)


- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190D-2-5-TURBO_W0QQitemZ4608323992QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D thats been up before I think

2005-12-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

its a type as indicated later down the page

Ron Dwelle wrote:

Pretty amazing, since MB didn't make the 190D in 1993 (I don't think)!  
Maybe a 190E?


Ron Dwelle

On Dec 23, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-MERCEDES-BENZ-190D-SEDAN- 
RESTORATION-PARTS- 
CAR_W0QQitemZ8023858205QQcategoryZ6783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI 
tem


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] cheap 190D thats been up before I think

2005-12-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-MERCEDES-BENZ-190D-SEDAN-RESTORATION-PARTS-CAR_W0QQitemZ8023858205QQcategoryZ6783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] cheap 190D

2005-11-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-DIESEL-VERY-LOW-MILES-EXTRA-CLEAN-LOW-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4591281482QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate

2005-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

if you give me the vin, and no, Im not going to the auction, Im too lazy

Tan Qu wrote:


Kaleb,

Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs grate
190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks.


Tan

--- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate

2005-11-12 Thread Tan Qu
Sorry about that. I lost bid on that one, only by less
than $100. Whoever won it got a good deal. 

Tan

--- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 if you give me the vin, and no, Im not going to the
 auction, Im too lazy
 
 Tan Qu wrote:
 
  Kaleb,
  
  Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs
 grate
  190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks.
  
  
  Tan
  
  --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
  
 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
  
 -- 
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81
 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate

2005-11-11 Thread Tan Qu
Kaleb,

Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs grate
190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks.


Tan

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 -- 
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate

2005-11-11 Thread Ed Booher
No! Tan Qu!

On 11/11/05, Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kaleb,

 Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs grate
 190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks.


 Tan

Oh God, I just couldn't resist!

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[MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate

2005-11-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts