[MBZ] cheap 190D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
When did the W201 get promoted to E-Class?
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Why would you think that? This is a great looking car and will sell in a New Your Minute! I would be bidding up to 5K or so if I were in the market. On 5/30/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Are you talking about why I would think that the maint. has not been done? I just assume it has not been done because he probably would claim it, if it had been done. BTW, I'm talking about things like timing chain, flex discs, and the sort of things a 250k mi. car needs (or so I've recently been told). I sure hope the bid does not go anywhere near $5k. I don't think I would pay that much for such a high mileage car on which I don't know the history. Brian On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you think that? This is a great looking car and will sell in a New Your Minute! I would be bidding up to 5K or so if I were in the market. On 5/30/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody will come in and buy it. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
250k is not high miles for these cars. Not all 250k cars are going to need timing chains and flex disks. They should be checked, but might not have to be replaced. Zoltan Finks wrote: Are you talking about why I would think that the maint. has not been done? I just assume it has not been done because he probably would claim it, if it had been done. BTW, I'm talking about things like timing chain, flex discs, and the sort of things a 250k mi. car needs (or so I've recently been told). I sure hope the bid does not go anywhere near $5k. I don't think I would pay that much for such a high mileage car on which I don't know the history. Brian -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. Brian On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody will come in and buy it. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise the bar here! On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. Brian On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody will come in and buy it. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid, either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. If you don't, then it went for more than you were willing to spend, so who cares? On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:00:42AM -0700, John Freer wrote: So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise the bar here! On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though.
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning! So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid? Brian On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise the bar here! On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. Brian On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody will come in and buy it. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Okay, your message came in just as I was asking the question. Brian On 5/31/07, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid, either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. If you don't, then it went for more than you were willing to spend, so who cares? On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:00:42AM -0700, John Freer wrote: So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise the bar here! On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Yes, they will accept a higher bid. There is even a button to do that after you have bid. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning! So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid? Brian On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise the bar here! On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. Brian On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody will come in and buy it. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES -190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategory Z6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Yes - you can alway bid again with a higher amount. On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning! So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid? Brian -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
That said, I've never, *ever* won an auction on eBay. I have bought a few things with buy it now prices, but for anything else it seems there's always someone else in the world who is willing to pay more than I am. Good luck. Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. Allan
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their innatention? I feel dirty. Yes, Allan, it does seem that due to the sheer number of people in competition for an item, that plain old luck comes into play - a bit of playing the lottery almost. Brian On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their innatention? If you do end up being the high bidder, it gives people less time to think well OK, I'll pay $10 more ... To really get in under the wire you'll need to use one of the snipe sites. They place your bid in the final seconds of the auction. If you're doing it manually with a browser, you need to leave enough time cushion for your browser to actually post the page to eBay. Also as I recall, when you place a bid you have to re-confirm your password so you need to allow time to do that and anything else in their process. Be sure you are doing all this according to eBay's clock, not your own local computer clock which is likely at least a few seconds different. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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30 seconds is way too long for snipers and people like me who just watch the time. Best to test out the speed of you bid being accepted, though, so you don't get the 'Auction has already ended message. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. As I've said before, this doesn't work. The problem has to do with the definition of willing to pay---it isn't black or white, and eBay's (broken) auction model forces you to pretend that it is. Say you put in $500 as your maximum bid, and another bidder snipes you at the last minute with a bid of $501. If the item was worth $500 to you, it was probably worth the $502 that you would have had to have bid in order to win. It probably wasn't worth $1,000 (which is why you didn't put that down as your max bid in the first place). In between is a gray area where the higher the price, the less your desire to pay it. eBay should extend the auction time limit as long as there are higher bids coming in. The system as it stands is just plain broken, and encourages sniping to the extent that in effect the auction idea is a joke---it's really a buy at a fixed price but you have to wait and guess what that fixed price is going to be at the last moment system. That's how I treat it---and I'm much more likely these days to buy an item at the Buy it Now price than play eBay's silly game. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
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its probably worth 2k maybe 2500. I of course wait till I get them for $500. If you want an ugly one I have one here Zoltan Finks wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. Brian -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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you can, but more likely you will get out bid. Use a snipe program such as www.auctionstealer.com Zoltan Finks wrote: Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning! So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid? Brian On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise the bar here! On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. Brian On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody will come in and buy it. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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Somewhat, but most folks have been around that block a few times. IMHO the ideal bid goes in too late to accept a higher bid from someone else. That sort of thing is for the 'fun stuff' you don't care that much about. If you really want it then put in your maximum bid. Another 'sneaky' way is to way overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid $150 on a $50 item in the last few seconds. That ended up costing me about an extra $10 before the bidding was over - but it was for something that was worth it to me. That will usually work - but someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot of money. Do it carefully. BillR [302 with 100% positive rating] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their innatention? I feel dirty. Yes, Allan, it does seem that due to the sheer number of people in competition for an item, that plain old luck comes into play - a bit of playing the lottery almost. Brian On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I sold my suburban on ebay last week. It went from something like 2700 to 3400 within the last 10 seconds. I was watching it as it ended and I just kept kitting refresh and everytime it would be several hundred more. That was cool. BillR wrote: 30 seconds is way too long for snipers and people like me who just watch the time. Best to test out the speed of you bid being accepted, though, so you don't get the 'Auction has already ended message. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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Look at the bottom of your Watch Page.something new has been added. On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eBay should extend the auction time limit as long as there are higher bids coming in. I absolutely agree. The current system benefits nobody but the sniping services, who of course would be out of business if ebay changed their model. I wonder if eBay also owns the sniping sites? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I actually use eBay about twice a year. I would not know what's new or not new since there are almost always changes every time I come back. Can you be a little more explicit? John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at the bottom of your Watch Page.something new has been added. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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Alex Chamberlain wrote: eBay should extend the auction time limit as long as there are higher bids coming in. The system as it stands is just plain broken, and encourages sniping to the extent that in effect the auction idea is a joke-- Ebay is supposed to be an open outcry auction, but with a senseless time limit. Because of the time limit, the customers have converted it to a sealed bid auction. They do this by placing bids too late for others to see and react to them before time is up. Those who don't like the way the game is run cry foul (or sniping). The obvious solution is a going, going, gone format.
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Unless you want to hover over the final minutes of the auction, or get one of those crazy bidding helper thingy programs it's best to just put in how much you're willing to pay and let nature take it's course. Of course I'm no ebay vet. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D Okay, and I assume the benfit of waiting 'til the final 30 seconds is to disarm your competitors and hope to take advantage of their innatention? I feel dirty. Yes, Allan, it does seem that due to the sheer number of people in competition for an item, that plain old luck comes into play - a bit of playing the lottery almost. Brian On 5/31/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. about 30 seconds before the auction ends, put in the absolute maximum bid you'd be willing to pay. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kevin wrote: It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid, either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. ...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a 2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it only howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been closer than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and passed. The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the diff from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around.
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There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. You pay up front for a nice one or you pay much more over the following few months for a fixer-upper. That is, unless you own land adjoining Kaleb's property you go on recon missions. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/31/07 01:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Kevin wrote: It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid, either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. ...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a 2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it only howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been closer than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and passed. The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the diff from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:42:00 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its probably worth 2k maybe 2500. I of course wait till I get them for $500. If you want an ugly one I have one here How ugly is ugly? Is it also a 190D/2.5? Craig
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Bill, I'm afraid I don't understand the technique you describe here. Do you retract your bid or something? Brian Bill wrote: Another 'sneaky' way is to way overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid $150 on a $50 item in the last few seconds. That ended up costing me about an extra $10 before the bidding was over - but it was for something that was worth it to me. That will usually work - but someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot of money. Do it carefully.
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The question is, of course, when you pay up front for a nice one, how do you know you are paying for a nice one and not, as someone has just put it, a nicely polished turd? We are indeed willing to pay good money for a good car here, not really looking for a cheapie. I don't work on cars much, and my wife wants a truly nice looking car to occasionally drive colleagues around in. Brian On 5/31/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. You pay up front for a nice one or you pay much more over the following few months for a fixer-upper. That is, unless you own land adjoining Kaleb's property you go on recon missions. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/31/07 01:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Kevin wrote: It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid, either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. ...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a 2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it only howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been closer than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and passed. The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the diff from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, I was going to ask essentially the same thing. If it just needs a paint job and maybe has a few small interior flaws, but is mechanically sound, I would want to find out more. brian On 5/31/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:42:00 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its probably worth 2k maybe 2500. I of course wait till I get them for $500. If you want an ugly one I have one here How ugly is ugly? Is it also a 190D/2.5? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Okay, I know - a lot of questions coming from me, but I'm learning here. So with this sniping service, it is actually free as the website says, no tricks? I ask you because I assume you have used it or know someone who does. It looks like it wants me to enter a time at which to bid. I thought it just bid at the last possible second before auction closing or something. And I assume that if more than one person i the auction is using a sniping service, that it just comes down to whichever command goes through cyberspace first? Brian On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can, but more likely you will get out bid. Use a snipe program such as www.auctionstealer.com Zoltan Finks wrote: Funny! Actually I found out my wife bid from work this morning! So should we take the advice I heard on the list recently, and simply enter our max bid and walk away? And if we do that, and decide that our max is now higher, I assume ebay will allow us to enter a new, higher max bid? Brian On 5/31/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Brian, you bid 770.00 and 790.00..you're going to have to raise the bar here! On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, Kaleb, I don't intend to screw around. Just found out that my wife is on board with this one due to its fairly clean appearance. So tell me, what is my best plan of attack? We keep getting outbid by $10 automatically. Yes, I remember what you said about rare deals. I guess I am slow to realize that these cars can actually be considered rare? Certainly a 5 spd. can be considered rare, at least in terms of trying to find one that someone wants to sell. Nobody but John so far has divulged what they think they would pay for this one though. Brian On 5/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told you before with those rare cars you cant screw around, somebody will come in and buy it. Zoltan Finks wrote: Hmm. And guess who has been clammoring about looking for a 190D, and has recently lowered his standards to consider an automatic? (Me). How much would you pay for this car, Kaleb? The 190D we were most recently looking into had all the advisable preventative maint. done for a 250k car, but someone else had a deposit on it and came and bought it today. This car presumably has none of that preventative maintenance done. Brian On 5/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-MBZ190D-2-5-87-MERCEDES-190D-5-CYCLINDER-CA-CAR-REAL-BEAUTY_W0QQitemZ140123695393QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
I think he's saying you just place a ridiculously high maximum bid, knowing that ebay will only bid up until you are the high bidder, or you reach your maximum, whichever happens first. However if someone else is playing the same game, and you happen to still come out on top, then you've really put yourself in a bind. I wouldn't try it, myself. It's just a car, another will come along soon enough if you don't get this one. Allan Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, I'm afraid I don't understand the technique you describe here. Do you retract your bid or something? Brian Bill wrote: Another 'sneaky' way is to way overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid $150 on a $50 item in the last few seconds. That ended up costing me about an extra $10 before the bidding was over - but it was for something that was worth it to me. That will usually work - but someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot of money. Do it carefully. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is, of course, when you pay up front for a nice one, how do you know you are paying for a nice one and not, as someone has just put it, a nicely polished turd? NOW your getting at the heart of the problem I have with buying big-ticket items on eBay. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:05:30 -0500 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I assume that if more than one person i the auction is using a sniping service, that it just comes down to whichever command goes through cyberspace first? The first one with the same or a higher bid wins. Craig
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D
If you purchase a nice looking Mercedes without checking it out or haing it gone over by a qualified mechanic and it turns into a shiny turd then shame on you. This is the one reason I do not bid on higher priced eBay cars. I will look at 50 or more old mercedes before happily paying too much for one then I will drive that expensive mercedes for 150,000 miles for less cost per mile than most other cars will cost. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 5/31/07 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D The question is, of course, when you pay up front for a nice one, how do you know you are paying for a nice one and not, as someone has just put it, a nicely polished turd? We are indeed willing to pay good money for a good car here, not really looking for a cheapie. I don't work on cars much, and my wife wants a truly nice looking car to occasionally drive colleagues around in. Brian On 5/31/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. You pay up front for a nice one or you pay much more over the following few months for a fixer-upper. That is, unless you own land adjoining Kaleb's property you go on recon missions. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05/31/07 01:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Kevin wrote: It doesn't matter what anyone else will pay for it. Decide what you and your wife are willing to give up for it, then place that as your maximum bid, either through e-bay or a snipe program. If you get it, be happy. ...provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. I bought a 2.3-16v from a seller who claimed to be a mechanic and admitted it had a noisy rear end. Took me about a minute to figure out the noise was coming from the trans, almost certainly a countershaft bearing. (it only howls when you lift throttle in a gear other than 1:1) If I'd been closer than 300 miles to the car when I bid, I might have looked at it and passed. The rear end noise didn't bother me, as I was planning on using the diff from my 2.5T, but I don't have a spare Getrag laying around. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 5/31/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I know - a lot of questions coming from me, but I'm learning here. So with this sniping service, it is actually free as the website says, no tricks? I ask you because I assume you have used it or know someone who does. With esnipe.com, which I've used a time or two, you have to pay a small percentage of the final price. It looks like it wants me to enter a time at which to bid. I thought it just bid at the last possible second before auction closing or something. Yeah, but you get to pick the last possible second---balancing the risk of an unforseen delay between the two computers (the snipe service's and eBay's) against the risk that someone else will cut it closer than you and out-snipe you. And I assume that if more than one person i the auction is using a sniping service, that it just comes down to whichever command goes through cyberspace first? Exactly. Alex Chamberlain
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Mitch reminded us: provided it doesn't turn out to be a well-polished turd. That's the inherent ebay risk. Bob R.never been turded yet
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No, I have never retracted a bid. This particular idea is based on processing time for something that you really want that you can't get reasonably otherwise. The particular item I was buying usually sold for $50 - $75, and I wanted it now. New was well over $100. I stayed in the bidding [so I wouldn't have to renew my identity more than minimally]. I was near the top bidder anyway, so I just waited until the last 10 - 15 seconds and bid what would have been a moderately high price for a new one. There were two other 'snipes' of $5 over current high bid that came in after mine, but the time expired before any more than two bids could be processed. I would have been upset at having to pay $150 for it, but was prepared to accept that if someone else was doing the same thing I was. Something I rarely do, but have only been beaten on once. I was bidding on an item for my Benz that often sold for $40 - $70. I bid too early though and upped the bid about 45 seconds early. That 'early' bid let someone else do the same thing to me - he ended up paying about $115 for an item he was planning to get for $50, which was the bid 60 seconds from the end of the auction. Worth it to him I suppose, and a lesson for me. Rather than bid in $5 increments as most do he upped his bid by $50 twice [I think] I never deviate from the rules, and usually have paid for the item within a minute of winning it. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D Bill, I'm afraid I don't understand the technique you describe here. Do you retract your bid or something? Brian Bill wrote: Another 'sneaky' way is to way overbid in the last 10 seconds [I bid $150 on a $50 item in the last few seconds. That ended up costing me about an extra $10 before the bidding was over - but it was for something that was worth it to me. That will usually work - but someone could fool you by doing the same thing and cost you a lot of money. Do it carefully. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hmm. We just found out that that thing is just 3 or 4 miles from us. Is that ACC? Brian On 11/18/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A million miles. Um, not without a new engine and tranny, and most of the other things too. So it has 277k. I don't think we'd pay $2200. for it. Maybe $800 if it checke out. We would've been tempted if we hadn't found our 240D. It's got a MN plate. Brian 83 240D On 11/16/06, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sometimes wonder if they even read what they are writing. Chris K Cayce, SC The powerful 2.2 liter 4 cylinder diesel engine not only offers plenty of power,... This 1984 190D diesel is guaranteed to make its new owners more then happy with their buy. AS IS-NO WARRANTY. Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-MB-190D-2-2L-1984-Mercedes-190D-2-2L_W0QQitemZ130048468017QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-Benz-190-D_W0QQitemZ4629305506QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem No affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 12 22:36:30 2006 Received: from pproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.166.176]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FTnwr-0007Sa-F4 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:36:30 + Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c59so2004849pyc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:36:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tE2Wl3La3OLBuOyMblox3kJC+gadHcgIPEp2Yyms0wkkCze2QOJ8yMEspzkFHuCDQ5IvQQknkrGDfEKn+3qARPJmikUjT+bfetv+eM7ivIyx6TuODQ4q2JZwaZvqCsQrdqHA8n9AjGbrsSlEdKx8+iw0Uoc3g6KhYF7qss6T+oMReceived: by 10.35.82.15 with SMTP id j15mr2169331pyl; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.53.15 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:36:27 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:36:30 - Can't help you with Rover experience aside from mentioning that a friend of a friend put a 350 in one. Your everything old is new again comment is poignant. I remember not too long ago that the big old muscle cars were much berated and there was talk of some Washington legislation that would have them all crushed. Seems funny now that one of the most desirable things is new cars that are mock old cars. The Mustang, Thunderbird, and this Land Criuser, to name a few attempt to look just like their predecessors. I'm greatly disappointed that when Chrysler finally brought back the Charger, it looks nothing like one, and is in fact ugly. On the other hand, have you seen the Challenger concept car? Brian 83 240D On 4/12/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything old is new again. http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/ Based on the 4Runner so bigger than the original I'd think. I'd surely love to have about an '80 FJ. One downside that springs to mind immediately if you regularly haul people is the rear jumpseats. I saw an article once about putting a later model 4 banger in one in place of the low compression, low horsepower I6. They said it had more power and much better mileage with the 4. On a slightly related note theres a '72 Land Cruiser at a local lot which my wife has fallen in love with. Its in very good shape, I took some time to crawl around under it and the frame is solid with good paint. Our Dodge Dakota is going to need replacing in the next 1-3 years (185k with the rust monster encroaching) and I'm into cool vehicles like the cruiser plus my wife only drives a few miles a day. Anybody got Rover experience? -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:54:21 -0500 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT Retro Land Cruiser? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I spied a vehicle this evening that I didn't know was being made. It was a new vehicle, but it had the front end styling of an old Toyota Land Cruiser - you know, the type that were small and Jeep-like. I didn't feel like turning around to pull over and look at it close up. Vintage Land Cruisers seem to hold esteem among the list, so I'm sure some of you are aware of this new vehicle. Brian 83 240D - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Almost over, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/023108826_W0QQitemZ4627821012QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Apr 09 00:30:53 2006 Received: from pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.67]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FSNpN-0007i3-H8 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:30:53 + Received: from user-11207gq.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.30.26] helo=Bill) by pop-tawny.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FSNpH-0002VC-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:30:47 -0400 From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 20:30:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 thread-index: AcZbUic3Z/Geg9w1Su+tf3H/1FmwPgAGptEA Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator ?? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:30:54 - Thanks for the advice everyone. When I can get into this thing I';; let you know what happens. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator ?? BillR wrote: It does have the dreaded pull start Briggs Stratton engine that I have had such a hard time starting in the past. Do any of you have any comments about getting it started? Put in a new spark plug, or at least wire-brush the one that's in there. Gap it to specs. This is a magneto ignition so the gap spec is usually pretty small -- too big a gap and it won't fire. Get some fresh gas in there, too. Some of these engines have primers, and some have a manual choke. The choke, if equipped, is usually a small lever on the carb, the primer is usually a small rubber button. They tend to be critical to getting the thing to start on the first pull or two. For a cold start, if it has a choke set it on full. If it has a primer, try three to five strokes. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
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I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mechanics-SPECIAL-190-TURBO-Diesel-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4626749011QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#mainImage -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I don't know. My 190 turbo has a hood star and working tranny, and the same color interior, but I'm not traveling to Maryland to pick up another project car.
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. K
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
the 722.4 does not have a b2 piston Kevin wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
Kevin wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife claims the 2.0?
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife claims the 2.0? We have a 2.5 NA. I did look it over thinking all the goodies would be there to convert ours or another, possibly throwing a 5spd into the mix. This particular car is really clapped out and ~ 600 miles away. I'm going to finish present projects, then look for something fun like that. In this way I would not stress-out my excellent Wife. She will,however want me to get into a fun project that she can also enjoy. She has recently suggested we overhaul my old Harley FLH together and do a little touring in the future. I am a lucky man to have her in my life. In my wildest dreams I never thought it could be this good. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
Kevin wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. The B-2 piston shattering was unique to the 722.3 transmissions, but the 722.4 B-2 pistons or bands CAN fail and the resulting symptom is exactly the same. They don't fail nearly as often because the parts were redesigned (just as the revised, replacement 722.3 parts were). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo
Mitch Haley wrote: Kevin wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote: I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston? I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife claims the 2.0? The 722 series transmissions wear every time they shift and hardly wear at all while in gear running. So to minimize transmission wear, minimize shifting. During the 10 years I was driving from Pittsburgh to Washington DC and back weekly, I counted the number of shifts that my 300TD made on the trip and the number of shifts that my 190Ds (with automatics) made. The 190D shifted not quite twice as often. Around town the number of shifts was much closer to the same. That corresponds with the average life of the a 722.4 transmission in a 201 vs a 722.3 transmission in a 123/124/126. In city driving, both transmissions give similar life (150-200kmi), but in highway service, the average 722.3 transmission will last quite a bit longer (all other things being equal). I believe that the BIGGEST factor is engine power. The more powerful engines allow the transmission to last longer by allowing the engine to propel the car satisfactorily with many fewer shifts! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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Failure to properly apply anti-seize? On 3/21/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (212k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
I was thinking either that or he forgot to change the fuses Dave - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine Failure to properly apply anti-seize? On 3/21/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (212k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. Causes of seizure: 1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck and they kept going; 2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check it often enough (one of my nephews did that with a late model Chevy pickup); or 3. something broke and has jammed the works Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to buy a used engine and install it Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys don't like to sit around too long not being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using them they last longer than if they sit and wait for you to fix the car) And who knows what else it needs? Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Dave W ___
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Dave Wakin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Snapped rod, snapped chain, overheated from no water or no oil, will all do it and then there are a few much, much less likely possibilities. Dave Quay (Atlanta-Stuttgart recycler) bought a low mileage '87 300D with a seized engine to dismantle. Once they removed the serp belt, the engine turned just fine. He replaced the alternator and his wife Beth used the car for years. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
BULL..My $500 82 240D was one of the best cars I ever owned. There are people who sell great things for little money because they are ignorant or just plain tired of it all over the place. Just have to look and see if it's a good deal. - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. Causes of seizure: 1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck and they kept going; 2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check it often enough (one of my nephews did that with a late model Chevy pickup); or 3. something broke and has jammed the works Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to buy a used engine and install it Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys don't like to sit around too long not being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using them they last longer than if they sit and wait for you to fix the car) And who knows what else it needs? Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Dave W ___ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine
OK, I'll bite. What do you think your odds are if you buy off ebay without actually being able to inspect the car? I'm not that much of a gambler. If the price is cheap enough to justify the worst case scenario then maybe but I'd hate to pay anything significant on a hunch that a cheap fix will make it good. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine BULL..My $500 82 240D was one of the best cars I ever owned. There are people who sell great things for little money because they are ignorant or just plain tired of it all over the place. Just have to look and see if it's a good deal. - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine Used and Abused. Remember there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes. Causes of seizure: 1. overheated - no coolant or something like that - maybe thermostat stuck and they kept going; 2. not enough oil - it leaks or uses oil and they didn't bother to check it often enough (one of my nephews did that with a late model Chevy pickup); or 3. something broke and has jammed the works Anyway you look at it, you have to be prepared to spend at least enough to buy a used engine and install it Maybe a transmission too? (my experience would indicate that auto trannys don't like to sit around too long not being used - seals harden up or something like that - if you keep using them they last longer than if they sit and wait for you to fix the car) And who knows what else it needs? Buyer beware. Bid low and see what happens. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Cheap 190D with siezed engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-D-1984_W0QQitemZ4622686730 Seller says engine is siezed - has just over 80K on the clock. Any thoughts as to why it will not turn over? Dave W ___ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] cheap 190D
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Why can't that be closer? Bob Rentfro (looking for a friend for the 300D) - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190D-2-5-TURBO_W0QQitemZ4608323992QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D thats been up before I think
its a type as indicated later down the page Ron Dwelle wrote: Pretty amazing, since MB didn't make the 190D in 1993 (I don't think)! Maybe a 190E? Ron Dwelle On Dec 23, 2005, at 6:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-MERCEDES-BENZ-190D-SEDAN- RESTORATION-PARTS- CAR_W0QQitemZ8023858205QQcategoryZ6783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] cheap 190D thats been up before I think
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate
if you give me the vin, and no, Im not going to the auction, Im too lazy Tan Qu wrote: Kaleb, Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs grate 190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks. Tan --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate
Sorry about that. I lost bid on that one, only by less than $100. Whoever won it got a good deal. Tan --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you give me the vin, and no, Im not going to the auction, Im too lazy Tan Qu wrote: Kaleb, Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs grate 190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks. Tan --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate
Kaleb, Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs grate 190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks. Tan --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate
No! Tan Qu! On 11/11/05, Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, Can you pull the Carfax record on this runs grate 190D? It is only 20 miles from me. Thanks. Tan Oh God, I just couldn't resist! -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
[MBZ] cheap 190D, its runs grate
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/190D-Mercedes-Benz-1988_W0QQitemZ4586768380QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts