[Mpls] Re: "Doug Grow: Controversy draws attention to black historydisplay"

2003-02-06 Thread Tim Bonham
For those interested, this photo can be seen at http://www.mnhs.org/market/mhspress/products/087351386X_ph5.html as well as excerpts from a Mn Historical Society book about it at http://www.mnhs.org/market/mhspress/products/087351386X_excerpt.html Note: Minneapolis relevance: Col. George Leach,

[Mpls] State budget difficulties

2003-02-06 Thread Phyllis Kahn
I almost hesitate to send this because I don't know if agreement was reached tonight, but here goes. I'm reprinting Hohmann's message and part of mine to show that he completely missed the point. The Guv and the House Republicans say the most important issues are a cushion and changes that carry i

Re: [Mpls] Why the NRP is a Very Bad Thing

2003-02-06 Thread Gregory D. Luce
My apologies to Britt Robson on this one. He is right--I should have gone back and reread the story, and my comment would have been different on this list. The "not true" phrase is in reality a reaction to questions I get at times as to whether I am actively planning, or some group in which I'm i

RE: [Mpls] War and the city(I know what I previously said, post is short )

2003-02-06 Thread Gary Bowman
All excellent points raised by Michael. Ms. Kahn would do well to remember this is the Minneapolis Issues Forum, not the "expound Kahn's general political ideologies on the world" forum. Finally, what a shock that the NY Times had nothing nice to say about our President. Nobody would have expe

[Mpls] "Doug Grow: Controversy draws attention to black history display"

2003-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Strand
"Doug Grow: Controversy draws attention to black history display" JLS---First, thank you Eric Oines for your reminder to all about civility. As one who works in the HC Government Center, upon learning of this controversy I sent a note to County Board Chair Michael Opat expressing my concerns about

RE: [Mpls] Rybak orders police not to talk to media

2003-02-06 Thread David Brauer
I'll have more to say about this later, but G.R. Anderson has a wonderful take on the whole GagGate controversy in his City Pages blog. http://radio.weblogs.com/0116681/ One of the many disturbing things about R.T.'s policy is that city officials are better than they've ever been about returning

[Mpls] City Cabs and African American Riders

2003-02-06 Thread V.L. Freeman
Okay list, I have one thing that disturbs me greatly, cab's and why many of the drivers will not pick up african americans at any of the stops in downtown Minneapolis, especially when they, the cab drivers are black like me. It is very frustrating to walk up to a cab, and be told, take the one

[Mpls] RE: LRT and buses

2003-02-06 Thread jeff carlson
Jennifer Lovaason is exactly right that the new LRT line will be a cross-section of the population of Minneapolis. This notion that light rail is elitist is bogus. Light rail is simply faster and more efficient than buses because it runs along a dedicated corridor. Contrary to the claims made by

Re: [Mpls] "No Longer the Giveaway County Board"

2003-02-06 Thread steven meldahl
The good landlords with the good buildings are certainly not professing for more of section 8. Unfortunately, most of the landlords that take section 8 have dated buildings with little or no amenities. They charge more rent than the regular landlord because of all of the problems that they have t

[Mpls] RE:Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread V.L. Freeman
I cannot understand why, a piece of american history cannot be in a public place. Lynching use to be a very public thing. How can we ever overcome the past if the future is to be limited, or contained to a very small tiny picture. We cannot continue to hide, and run from the past, as it is ther

Re: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread WizardMarks
Ghost wrote: Bravo, Pam! The idea of influencing the jury just doesn't pan out here. WM: Isn't it true, that potentially, the jury will see equally awful pictures in court if they jury a murder case or an assault case? Even a case of medical malpractice could be a source of awful pictures

Re: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread Ghost
Bravo, Pam! The idea of influencing the jury just doesn't pan out here. Every day, people are influenced by TV, movies, the news, gossip, books (heaven forbid!), etc. - and a large number of those influences put minorities (racial, religious, sexual, etc.) in a poor and often scandalously ste

Re: [Mpls] $cam$

2003-02-06 Thread David Wilson
There was a man who worked his scam in my neighborhood. His story was that he was a truck driver and he needed money for gas. I gave him $1.00. Several weeks later he approached me again with the same story. I said to him that he better change his pitch or start recognizing the people he already

Re:[Mpls] Policely speaking

2003-02-06 Thread Fredric Markus
The MPHA highrise at 2019 16th Ave. S. will be renamed in honor of Officer Melissa Schmidt next Friday, February 14, at 1:00 pm. There will be many people there who wish to honor Melissa and I for one simply want to be there. Sometimes words are superfluous. Fred Markus, Horn Terrace, Ward Ten, i

Re: [Mpls] $cam$

2003-02-06 Thread Caffeinate The World
--- Mike Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I cannot count how many times I have been asked for money in > minneapolis > because somebody's "car broke down." In fact, I always get mostly This happened to me several times in the past few years. about 3 years ago, infront of Williams Uptown, I de

Re: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread Jordan S. Kushner
- Original Message - From: "Anne McCandless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jordan S. Kushner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Atherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit > The jurors are taken to

[Mpls] $cam$

2003-02-06 Thread Mike Jones
I cannot count how many times I have been asked for money in minneapolis because somebody's "car broke down." In fact, I always get mostly the same story. They go to great pains to tell me they are a born-again Christian (which back-fires, actually. I don't trust proselytizing born-agains as

[Mpls] Policely speaking

2003-02-06 Thread Steve Sumner
I'm very concerned with the idea that the press can't just go and talk with the police without going to a spin doctor, or department of big city propaganda. Where do we live again? Nazi Germany, Communist Russia/China, Iraq, or Minneapolis? I would like to think there is a difference in the inte

[Mpls] Black History Month Exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread Emilyjo916
Happy Black History Month List Members: I have a novel idea. What if here, in America, we simply tell and teach history as it actually happened. Just think . . we might not need to have a Black History Month observance at all!! Why? Because everyone would know the contributions, struggles, c

RE: [Mpls] "No Longer the Giveaway County Board"

2003-02-06 Thread Jason Sittko
If landlords dislike section 8 so much why are the landlords professing more of it will cure the housing problems? Do landlords HAVE to subscribe to section 8 renting? or Is it such a lucrative trough from which to feed from? <>

[Mpls] RE: LRT & Buses

2003-02-06 Thread Jennifer Lovaasen
There are two expectations of public transit: 1) to transport people who don't have a car or can't drive; and 2) to reduce traffic congestion by providing an attractive alternative for folks who choose to leave their car behind. Metro Transit does both. List members are wrong to assert that light

RE: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread Pamela Taylor
OR, move it upstairs to the main lobby area. Why hide it in the basement, anyway? Besides, jurors watch television and go to movies, too. They should not be shocked, nor should it influence their decision one way or the other. If they are sitting jurors on any cases, they ought to have a sense

RE: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread Michael Atherton
Jordan Kushner wrote: > This is a rather unrealistic hypothetical. A more likely > scenario is that jurors hearing a case of a Black criminal > defendant (probably a majority of the defendants in Hennepin > County) might actually be more sensitive about racism > God forbid! When I first sa

Re: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread Anne McCandless
The jurors are taken to eat at the cafeteria right across from where the exhibit is. It would be very easy for a jury to see the exhibit. Anne McCandless Jordan - Original Message - From: "Jordan S. Kushner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Atherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [Mpls] NAACP: "a major internal struggle is inevitable" (Spokesman-Recorder)

2003-02-06 Thread Pamela Taylor
IMHO, of which I obviously have many, if a President of a nonprofit does not support an audit of its internal affairs, there exists a flaming red flag. In this day and age of the ever-shrinking dollar, you have to be ever careful and accountable to the membership and the constituents you are propos

Re: [Mpls] Why the NRP is a Very Bad Thing

2003-02-06 Thread Barbara Lickness
One of the endorsing conventions for 61A/B was held at the Shriners Center on 26th and Park. I remember it started about 8:30 a.m. and the endorsements didn't finish until around 4:30 p.m. and the resolutions committee was just going to start meeting after that. There was a tiny room upstairs for c

Re: [Mpls] Rybak orders police not to talk to media

2003-02-06 Thread WizardMarks
Mark Anfinson, attorney for the MN Newspaper Assn., said it all in the Strib article. RT Rybak was/is a spin doctor as a public relations advisor in private practice until becoming mayor of Mpls. To have expected anything different from RT would have been unrealistic. WizardMarks, Central List

Re: [Mpls] selfless and pure

2003-02-06 Thread Socialist2001
Doug Mann: What I understand D. Brauer to mean by "demonizing the discussion" is the use of more or less veiled personal attacks which transform issue-driven discussions into ego-driven food fights. In a message dated 2/6/2003 6:59:25 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David B

Re: [Mpls] Why the NRP is a Very Bad Thing

2003-02-06 Thread Lisa McDonald
Tim, You must be forgetting about the Rip Rapson, Sharon Sayles Belton endorsing debacle. I believe that went on until 2 a.m. in the morning.   Lisa McDonald East Harriet   - Original Message - From: Tim Bonham Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:01 AM To: mpls-issues Subject: Re: [Mpls]

[Mpls] "No Longer the Giveaway County Board"

2003-02-06 Thread Victoria Heller
Michael Hohmann inquires: The rent subsidies also allow renters a degree of locational flexibility. I imagine there are problems with which sources of funds are available, i.e. funds to subsidize new construction vs. direct rent subsidies, federal vs. state vs. local funds, etc. Also, I believe m

[Mpls] NAACP: "a major internal struggle is inevitable" (Spokesman-Recorder)

2003-02-06 Thread Socialist2001
Controversy continues to divide Mpls NAACP By: Isaac Peterson, III Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Originally posted 2/4/2003 Financial report falls short of full audit Contrary to the Minneapolis NAACP's public assurances since the installation of Reverend Al Gallmon as president, the turmoil and

RE: [Mpls] War and the city

2003-02-06 Thread Michael Hohmann
My apology... third and last post today. I'll not post again 'till next week. Here goes my New Year's resolution... again. ~ Re: the NYTimes article Rep. Kahn cites, referencing the Bush budget and the costs of war: It almost sounds like a Molly Ivan's article, absent the wit. In genera

[Mpls] Rybak orders police not to talk to media

2003-02-06 Thread List Manager
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3636594.html David Brauer List manager TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Send all posts in plain-text format. 2. Cut as much of the post you're responding to as possible. Minneapolis Issues Forum - A City-focused Civic Discussion - M

[Mpls] A new twist on economic development

2003-02-06 Thread Michael Hohmann
Great commentary article in today's Strib by a couple of local number-crunching, finance-types, regarding new directions in economic development. Forget the zero-sum games, I think these guys are onto something! http://www.startribune.com/stories/562/3635266.html Michael Hohmann Linden Hills

[Mpls] War and the City

2003-02-06 Thread Victoria Heller
Phyllis Kahn wrote: "How many Americans know that the Head Start cut of $107 million could prevent 2700 youngsters from a Head Start experience, or leave 224,000 needy individuals without the meals provided by WIC, or 230,000 veterans without medical services? ..." Vicky responds: $107 million?

[Mpls] Stress and civility

2003-02-06 Thread Eric Oines
Hi folks, I want to echo the List Manager's pleas and offer some thoughts. This list, and others I am part of have been increasingly getting more and more personal and nasty. I think a good part of what is happening is that folks are taking their unconscious stress out on folks through their p

[Mpls] RE: "lack of public transit"

2003-02-06 Thread Bruce Gaarder
Carol Becker responds to my quote from someone pushing for lrt in HOUSTON by citing Twin Cities survey statistics. His perception of Houston ridership has nothing to do with ridership in the Twin Cities, but there are those who share his view. Ever talked to a bus rider who has been told that the

Re: [Mpls] "No Longer the Giveaway County Board"/Section 8 info only

2003-02-06 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 2/6/03 7:23:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Also, I believe many landlords dislike the Section 8 > program. Any comments from knowledgeable government folks (MCDA, MPHA, > state/local folks, etc.) and private landlords? Craig, Vicky, Keith...? >

RE: [Mpls] MPLS North VS Henry Rematch

2003-02-06 Thread Boland, Becky R
It is Feb 17th at the Target Center. Becky Boland Lyndale -Original Message- From: Steven Froemming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

[Mpls] NRP and Broad Participation

2003-02-06 Thread Jim Mork
NRP Participation: Has anyone ever looked at whether renters generally have stable addresses. My guess is that most of them do not. The mechanics of renting encourage settling for something short of what you really want. You give your notice from an unsatisfactory place and then have a limit

RE: [Mpls] "No Longer the Giveaway County Board"

2003-02-06 Thread Michael Hohmann
Re: affordable housing, Bill Cullen from Hopkins suggests that Section 8 rent subsidies might be more effective than publicly subsidized new construction: > Given the increasing vacancy rate, isn't increasing the availability of > vouchers (ala Section 8) a better solution than building more apartm

[Mpls] Public Forms for Minneapolis Bill of Rights Defense Committee Today & Tomorrow (Feb-6-7)

2003-02-06 Thread ken bradley
Today and Tomorrow! THE MINNEAPOLIS BILL OF RIGHTS DEFENSE COMMITTEE presents A Community Forum & Discussion The federal government is trading in YOUR rights to privacy, free speech, and personal security, all in the name of fighting terrorism. 30 cities have passed Resolutions resisting these

[Mpls] MPLS North VS Henry Rematch

2003-02-06 Thread Steven Froemming
Hello I wanted to know the big rematch between Minneapolis North and Minneapolis Patrick Henry at the Target Center? Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon. Steven Mac.Donald Froemming A Basketball Fan From Richfield Minnesota. ___

[Mpls] RE: Why the NRP is a Very Bad Thing

2003-02-06 Thread Ray Marshall
Good one, Alan! Another problem with the NRPs is that they are, like the DFL, run by the "Payroll Caucus." I haven't taken a survey on this, but I would bet all that I have that those most active in the NRPs are those currently or formerly employed by government or interest groups, those depende

Re: [Mpls] RE: "lack of public transit"

2003-02-06 Thread Becker
From: "Alan Shilepsky" > "One of the very vocal supporters of lrt in Houston has written that nobody > rides the bus but minorities and the servant classes, and that's why lrt is > needed. By inference, he doesn't ride with "those" people." The reality of who uses the transit system is much diffe

[Mpls] Decorum

2003-02-06 Thread List Manager
Hi folks - I realize there have been a few fingers stuck in a few eyes lately. The instigators will be warned, the rest of you, please send personal shots to the person you disagree with OFF-LIST, or make your comments non-inflammatory, -insulting, etc. according to the rules. Don't let personal

RE: [Mpls] Grow on Black History exhibit

2003-02-06 Thread Tim Bonham
Jordan Kushner wrote:  I have one question that I cannot resist asking:  How did we get a  narrow-minded jailer in the most powerful political position in Hennepin  County? We the people elected him in a fair & open democratic electoral system.  If you are unhappy with his performance, perhaps

Re: [Mpls] Why the NRP is a Very Bad Thing

2003-02-06 Thread Tim Bonham
While I agree the meetings can be cumbersome, so can the political conventions that go on for 8 - 10 hours to endorse candidates. Talk about family unfriendly. Barb, you are exaggerating here.  The longest DFL endorsing convention in the city council races was yours, in the 6th Ward.  It

[Mpls] selfless and pure

2003-02-06 Thread m1r3201
David Brauer writes: "Frankly, I find the demonizing of disagreement to be particularly distasteful. It seems like so much of our civic discussion lately does not recognize legitimate differences of opinion - someone must be corrupt, or selfish. We, on the other hand, are selfless and pure and

RE: [Mpls] Why the NRP is a Very Bad Thing

2003-02-06 Thread David Brauer
Greg writes: > I'm not about suing people and I hope David Brauer's comment about the > "demonizing of disagreement" was not also applicable to me, a frequent > critic of NRP. If it was, so be it, but I feel I and others have always > suggested constructive methods for change. My comment is defi

RE: [Mpls] "No Longer the Giveaway County Board"

2003-02-06 Thread Bill Cullen
I agree that most buildings coming on line are upscale buildings. I also agree that affordability (not availability, discrimination or bad-records) is what primarily causes homelessness. Given the increasing vacancy rate, isn't increasing the availability of vouchers (ala Section 8) a better sol