Re: abort_nosubject=ask-no not working as expected
On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 10:29:55PM -0500, John P . Verel wrote: Does the abort_nosubject option work in 1.2.5? Yes. My .muttrc entry is: set abort_nosubject=ask-no That says always ask me what I want, make the default answer be 'no'. It's a quadoption. -- Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg21655/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
Hi! On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 04:00:03PM +0100, Cristian wrote browsers: w3m-m17n (with autoconversion from `any' other character set), lynx (works with UTF-8 and iso-8859-1, at least) Strange, never w3m nor lynx can correctly display http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/manga.html. But w3mmee does. editors: emacs-20.7 (oc-patched) (only as X app, not with -nw), mined, nano (partially), pico (but not 'pine -F' -- weird!) vim since 6.0. Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS had a Mutt-UTF-8 patch for earlier Mutt 1.3.x at http://www.rano.org/mutt.html which now seems to be obsolete, though some people may still need his patched slang-1.4.4 (I use ncurses 5.2, so I don't need slang). Do you have ncurses compiled with wide-char-support, and mutt is link againts libncursesw.so.5.2? The standard ncurses never really worked for me, but now Debian has the slang-utf8 package in testing, so it works fine with mutt. OK folks, time to switch to UTF-8! Hm, two problems exist until now: German gpg messages aren't display correctly, so are html mails (displayed with lynx, usr/bin/lynx -force_html -dump '%s'). w3mmee works (w3mmee %s), but links within the mail are lost. Any hints? Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | WWW: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/| | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/pgp.html | msg21656/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quoting when replying
Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-09 20:12]: We had an exchange on this one before, but the more I see it, the less I like it. It all started back in the Usenet news days of 1989 and 1990, before Linux had hit the scene (ca 1991, IIRC) and when the web was still a gleam in Tim's eye (ca 1991, as I was corrected the last time I provided this sort of response). In the heat of many passionate arguments going back and forth, with quoting sometimes ten levels deep, it was easy to lose track of who said what when. To set my comments apart from others' I started using %_ (the common notation for a trailing space, just like the From_ header). I had, IIRC, already seen a few folks using | and within a few years all manner of quoting (most commonly : :_ | |_ $ but occasionally % and %_ just like me) abounded. As others have said, you cannot set your comments apart by using a different quote sign. As others have noticed, uniqueness is a Bad Thing in today's email environment. I can't really say what went on in Usenet when we were young, but I can definitely say that your quote sign makes your mails harder to read. Since you know this, you must should have a very good reason to use it anyway. Please tell us. I've simply kept it since then, and it's relatively unique and still recognizable. When I was young, I spent a lot of time in Fido. I prepended the quote sign with the initials, just like discussed before. This was only possible because I and 80% of everyone else used Crosspoint, which not only knew how to display this thing, but could also reliably reflow quotes, keeping everything neat even at the 10th quoting level. (It was also made easier by compulsory clear names.) This was very useful, since you could see with one look who wrote the quote (not who quoted it). It was color-coded of course. Nobody had any problems, because everyone either used Crosspoint or started using it very soon, so it was accepted standard. I don't use initials anymore, because most MUAs/editors would break. You keep your bad habit even though you are fully aware that your quoting style does the same. This without giving any reason but personal tradition. Your mails are as ineffective as outlooked mails with the answer following the questions. Hey, at least mine is easy to match with $quote_regexp! I don't change my mutt.rc for individuals who are not me. Thorsten -- If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. - Sir Isaac Newton
fcc-save-hook
Hi, I couldn't find too much helpful stuff through google or the archives, so here goes... I'm trying to construct a fcc-save-hook thingamajig that will save all outgoing mail into a file, except for mail sent to certain lists etc. Right now I have: fcc-save-hook . +sent-mail/sent-mail-`date +%d-%b-%Y` ...which sends all my outgoing mail to ~/Mail/sent-mail/sent-mail-[day-month-year] Would it work if I added, for instance, these lines: fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +sent-mail/sent-mail-hackers-`date +%d-%b-%Y` fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +sent-mail/sent-mail-hackers-`date +%d-%b-%Y` fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +sent-mail/sent-mail-current-`date +%d-%b-%Y` Basically I just want all mail going to certain lists / people saved in certain places, and everything else saved in some default place... Thanks. -- -Munish
Re: binding a key to forward mail
Gary, et al -- Thanks again for the help with this. I finally got it working properly! ...and then Gary Johnson said... % On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 03:21:52PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % Hmmm... push in the macro, you mean? That's certainly an idea; thanks! % % Yes, that's what I meant. For example, I tried this just to see if it % would work: % % :macro pager G :push mail^Mgaryjohn^M^Mtest message^My % % The third ^M is needed because I have askcc set. Interestingly enough, I had to work it down to macro generic ,f enter-commandpush tag-prefixforward-messagesc y to get it to work. Where the two ctrl-Ms are I had both enter and a single ctrl-M but every time I'd run the macro I'd end up with To: scy sitting on my screen; it's as though the first return gets swallowed. It also works with enterenter which also supports that [bizarre] theory. Anyway, I'm a VERY happy camper :-) Thanks again! % % Gary % % -- % Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies % [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA % http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ | :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21659/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc-save-hook
Munish -- ...and then Munish Chopra said... % % Hi, Hello! % % I couldn't find too much helpful stuff through google or the archives, % so here goes... At least you looked first; thanks! :-) % % I'm trying to construct a fcc-save-hook thingamajig that will save all % outgoing mail into a file, except for mail sent to certain lists etc. % % Right now I have: % % fcc-save-hook . +sent-mail/sent-mail-`date +%d-%b-%Y` % % ...which sends all my outgoing mail to % ~/Mail/sent-mail/sent-mail-[day-month-year] Man, that must play hell with your sorting :-) Why not Y-M-D instead, I wonder? % % Would it work if I added, for instance, these lines: % % fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' % +sent-mail/sent-mail-hackers-`date +%d-%b-%Y` Looks fine to me. Why not just try it and see what you get? You don't even have to really send any email; just put the hooks in and then start to send some mail and check the Fcc: value at the compose menu and then abort the message and move on to the next test case (you, a friend, a possible regexp match like hackers@yourbox, and the lists themselves). HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21660/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc-save-hook
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:12:08AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % fcc-save-hook . +sent-mail/sent-mail-`date +%d-%b-%Y` % % ...which sends all my outgoing mail to % ~/Mail/sent-mail/sent-mail-[day-month-year] Man, that must play hell with your sorting :-) Why not Y-M-D instead, I wonder? Umm...yeah. That was just plain stupid. Thanks ;) While I'm at it, is there some kind of hook for moving deleted mail around? I know, I didn't check this time...so pointers are welcome! -- -Munish
Re: fcc-save-hook
Munish -- ...and then Munish Chopra said... % % On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:12:08AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % % % fcc-save-hook . +sent-mail/sent-mail-`date +%d-%b-%Y` % % % % ...which sends all my outgoing mail to % % ~/Mail/sent-mail/sent-mail-[day-month-year] % % Man, that must play hell with your sorting :-) Why not Y-M-D instead, % I wonder? % % Umm...yeah. That was just plain stupid. Thanks ;) No problem :-) I notice that sort of thing, whether I *should* or not... % % While I'm at it, is there some kind of hook for moving deleted mail % around? I know, I didn't check this time...so pointers are welcome! Um, how do you mean? Once it's deleted, it's gone, so there isn't much to move :-) Do you mean moving mail that's flagged for deletion but has not been purged? Cedric Duval has a trash-folder patch that provides recycle-bin-like recovery functionality that you might find interesting. If that's not it, please elucidate. % % -- % -Munish HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21662/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: abort_nosubject=ask-no not working as expected
Thanks. That works. Nowif I could just figure out how to keep Mutt from putting double quotes around my name in the from line? John On 12/16/01, 11:23:41PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2001, John P . Verel wrote: Does the abort_nosubject option work in 1.2.5? My .muttrc entry is: set abort_nosubject=ask-no Based on the manual, I'd have thought that when I press y to send a message with no subject, I would not be prompted to abort or send. Yet, I'm still asked. What am I missing? If you don't want to be asked, use: set abort_nosubject=no -Ken -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
Re: Quoting when replying
Hi Thorsten, David, and all % As others have said, you cannot set your comments apart by using a % different quote sign. % As others have noticed, uniqueness is a Bad Thing in today's email % environment. Well, the one and only argument of David is the uniqueness? Then let's defeat it. I suggest that everyone adds these two lines in his muttrc: send-hook . 'set indent_string= ' send-hook '~x @sector13' 'set indent_string=% ' This way, for every discussion David is involved in, the uniqueness of % will disappear. Perhaps he will then change his mind... PS: just kidding ;) PPS: oh my, I cannot believe I've used this awful indent_string! :/ -- Cedric
Re: Quoting when replying, and whatnot...
On Dec 17 at 01:39PM Thorsten Haude wrote: Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-09 20:12]: could your attribution string be any more inane? I mean, come on, an asterisk? they just aren't IN anymore. and brackets in conjunction with a dating mechanism so unfamiliar and unamerican? that's CRAZY! my entire morning has been ruined, thanks. Seriously though, tolerance is a good thing, we don't need any mutt-user-on-mutt-user violence for the outlook-run news media to pick up on and make example of. [...] -- tim lupfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] familiarity breeds contempt--and children. --mark twain msg21665/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc-save-hook
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:26:06AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % While I'm at it, is there some kind of hook for moving deleted mail % around? I know, I didn't check this time...so pointers are welcome! Um, how do you mean? Once it's deleted, it's gone, so there isn't much to move :-) Do you mean moving mail that's flagged for deletion but has not been purged? Cedric Duval has a trash-folder patch that provides recycle-bin-like recovery functionality that you might find interesting. If that's not it, please elucidate. No, actually I think that's exactly what I meant. I'll look for it. Thanks. -- -Munish
Re: abort_nosubject=ask-no not working as expected
John -- ...and then John P . Verel said... % % Nowif I could just figure out how to keep Mutt from putting double % quotes around my name in the from line? You should have started a new thread ;-) I'm afraid you're stuck with 'em until you remove the period from your fullname. IIRC it's part of the RFC spec, but I at least know that it's come up on the list before. I expect someone can provide you a pointer to the authoritative reference, though :-) % % John HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21667/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fcc-save-hook
Munish -- ...and then Munish Chopra said... % % On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:26:06AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % Cedric Duval has a trash-folder patch that provides recycle-bin-like % recovery functionality that you might find interesting. ... % % No, actually I think that's exactly what I meant. I'll look for it. His site is http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/ and you can also find it at http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail in the file listing. % Thanks. HTH! % % -- % -Munish :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21668/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quoting when replying
Cedric, et al -- ...and then Cedric Duval said... % % Hi Thorsten, David, and all Hello! % % % As others have said, you cannot set your comments apart by using a % % different quote sign. % % As others have noticed, uniqueness is a Bad Thing in today's email % % environment. % % Well, the one and only argument of David is the uniqueness? Then let's % defeat it. Oh, now you've done it, buddy! o/ /o o/ /o I suggest that everyone adds these two lines in his muttrc: o/ /o o/ /o send-hook . 'set indent_string= ' o/ /o send-hook '~x @sector13' 'set indent_string=% ' Match *that* if you can! o/ /o o/ /o This way, for every discussion David is involved in, the uniqueness of o/ /o % will disappear. Perhaps he will then change his mind... No, I will see it as the grand unification of Good Quote Characters, because I also happen to think that % is prettier than anyway. o/ /o o/ /o PS: just kidding ;) Same here :-) o/ /o PPS: oh my, I cannot believe I've used this awful indent_string! :/ Yeah, and who is this PPS guy who quotes with : anyway, and why are you quoting him and his little brother PS here? % -- % Cedric :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21669/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing file browser settings for Mail folder
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:27:48 +0100 From: Balazs Javor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MUTT Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Changing file browser settings for Mail folder Hi, I was trying to change the folder_format for just my ~/Mail folder where I store my mailboxes. Hi Balazs, have you received a reply to your question off-list perhaps? -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 3:28PM up 2:24, 7 users, load averages: 0.16, 0.07, 0.02
Re: Quoting when replying
Thorsten, et al -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % % Hi, Hello! % % * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-09 20:12]: % We had an exchange on this one before, but the more I see it, the less % I like it. Fair enough. % % It all started back in the Usenet news days of 1989 and 1990, before ... % track of who said what when. To set my comments apart from others' % I started using %_ (the common notation for a trailing space, just ... % As others have said, you cannot set your comments apart by using a % different quote sign. While others may have said it, and some may even believe it, I don't get it. It makes sense to me to have a mixture of indent chars in a discussion, and it makes things clearer for me. To each his own. % As others have noticed, uniqueness is a Bad Thing in today's email % environment. Admitted -- but I also see room for flexibility and configuration choices. I mean, c'mon, LookOut! will even handle %_ gracefully (well, as gracefully as it can handle anything)! % I can't really say what went on in Usenet when we were young, but I % can definitely say that your quote sign makes your mails harder to % read. Since you know this, you must should have a very good reason to % use it anyway. Please tell us. Other than the fact that I just plain like the character and have no great fondness for '', and the opinion that % is nicer anyway, I don't have any other reasons. At least, none of which I can think, and I promise I'm *not* just trying to be stubborn. % % I've simply kept it since then, and it's relatively unique and still % recognizable. % When I was young, I spent a lot of time in Fido. I prepended the quote % sign with the initials, just like discussed before. Yep. % This was only possible because I and 80% of everyone else used % Crosspoint, which not only knew how to display this thing, but could % also reliably reflow quotes, keeping everything neat even at the 10th Sounds lovely. % quoting level. (It was also made easier by compulsory clear names.) % This was very useful, since you could see with one look who wrote the % quote (not who quoted it). It was color-coded of course. Nobody had Sure. That sounds like Rob's argument, though. % any problems, because everyone either used Crosspoint or started using % it very soon, so it was accepted standard. Great! I predict the same thing with %_ and mutt. I look forward to the time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with us -- and perhaps find the world a better place as well. % % I don't use initials anymore, because most MUAs/editors would break. % You keep your bad habit even though you are fully aware that your % quoting style does the same. This without giving any reason but % personal tradition. There are a lot of things that I do purely out of personal tradition or belief, and I'm not about to change that. There are even things that I do to incorporate the traditions or beliefs of others -- and I mean in as simple a way as a writing style, without getting into the whole arena of what might more typically be considered belief tolerance or whatever politically correct name such things might have today. In this particular case I firmly believe that the proper tool -- mutt -- exists and has the configuration capability to work *with* my particular style and further believe that anyone else (particularly those already using mutt) has the ability to choose whether or not to incorporate my practice. % % Your mails are as ineffective as outlooked mails with the answer % following the questions. Oooh, that was way harsh. I understand ineffective to mean that any message I might have is utterly lost -- something that I wouldn't even say about the upside-down quoting of Outhouse -- and is just noise in the ether. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Of course, you may not receive my condolences, given the entirely ineffective method of their delivery. Sorry about that, too (begin endless loop about here). % % Hey, at least mine is easy to match with $quote_regexp! % I don't change my mutt.rc for individuals who are not me. Fair enough. There are probably a lot of variables that you don't need, then. Maybe I should petition to get % added to the default list so that you will be able to read my mail. % % Thorsten % -- % If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. % - Sir Isaac Newton :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21671/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Getting rid of quotes in name (new thread;)
Yep, losing the period did it. Thanks, David John On 12/17/01, 09:13:56AM -0500, David T-G wrote: John -- ...and then John P . Verel said... % % Nowif I could just figure out how to keep Mutt from putting double % quotes around my name in the from line? You should have started a new thread ;-) I'm afraid you're stuck with 'em until you remove the period from your fullname. IIRC it's part of the RFC spec, but I at least know that it's come up on the list before. I expect someone can provide you a pointer to the authoritative reference, though :-) % % John HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
mutt sample setup files (was: Email HowTo)
* Prahlad Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011207 17:40]: On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the ether: what parts of mutt's documentation have you found lacking? What are your patterns of use of mutt, and did you have hard time setting it up the way you wanted, or was everything you needed obvious from the manual? Not really - here are some stuff I thought was lacking : - A verbose .rc file, like the one Sven Guckes has for vim Is there something like this for Mutt too? see here.. http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/setup/mutt* 990 Nov 18 2000 mutt.color 8670 Aug 1 19:22 mutt.color.body 6603 Nov 12 07:32 mutt.color.header 17864 Nov 12 07:42 mutt.color.header.agents 11135 Aug 6 05:01 mutt.color.index 29273 Nov 20 07:34 mutt.personal 1530 Oct 12 18:43 mutt.pop 5573 Apr 18 2000 mutt.rainbow 3200 Nov 17 1999 mutt_like_pine 834 Nov 1 21:41 muttrc 43104 Nov 11 23:54 muttrc.forall 6812 Sep 18 10:59 muttrc.minimal knock yourself out! :-) Sven -- Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mutt-versions] Latest versions: MUTT http://www.mutt.org/ news:comp.mail.mutt mutt-1.2.5 [000729] MUTT http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mutt/ mutt-1.3.24 [011130] MUTT MUTT - *the* mailer for UNIX with color, threading, IMAP+MIME+PGP+POP
Re: Mailing list replies
On Sonntag, 16. Dez. 2001 at 12:12:12, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: When you are sending mails to an lists address both the list and your address are in the MFT header, when sending to an subscribed address only the list address is in the MFT header. Hello Nicolas, this is not correct. When you only take the list command, mutt don't generate a Mail-Followup-To header. With subscribe it will generate it. When you don't want your adress in the Mail-Followup-To header, you must have this in your .muttrc: -snip--- set followup_to unset metoo -snip--- In the manual there is in the section 6.3.50. followup_to the following explanation: --snip-- Controls whether or not the Mail-Followup-To header field is generated when sending mail. When set, Mutt will generate this field when you are replying to a known mailing list, specified with the ``subscribe'' or lists commands. --snip-- Hth Michael -- Registred Linux-User: 183712 GnuPG Key: B3F038DC GnuPG-fingerprint: 21A7 B384 6629 F320 8AFC A2B5 4071 E5C3 B3F0 38DC
Re: Mailing list replies
On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 02:28:09PM +, Thomas Hurst wrote: * Benjamin Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:53:27AM +0200, Jussi Ekholm wrote: subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] -clip- It can get long, huh? :-) Not when you generate it automatically. I have about 4 lines for 45 lists :) The originator of this thread also does this, since his setup is based on the same stuff mine is :) I've never really understood the difference between using 'subscribe' and 'lists' to specify a mailing list. I've just looked in the manual and it does seems to have anything enlightening in it so, could someone perhaps clarify it for me? lists instructs mutt that a certain address is a mailing list, subscribe tells it you are actually *on* that mailing list; without subscribe, the Mail-Followup-To header is set so you get replies as well as the list, so you can track threads from messages you send to a list you're not on. While we're on the subject of the difference of subscribe and lists, can anybody tell me how to get the functionality of subscribe (I.E. Mail-Followup-To set correctly), but still show the sender instead of the listname in the From-field in the mailbox-index? (I'm sure there is a dead-easy solution that I've missed in the manual) -- Andreas D Landmark / noXtension God is the tangential point between zero and infinity. -- Alfred Jarry
Re: Mailing list replies
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:36:49 +0100 From: Andreas Landmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mailing list replies While we're on the subject of the difference of subscribe and lists, can anybody tell me how to get the functionality of subscribe (I.E. Mail-Followup-To set correctly), but still show the sender instead of the listname in the From-field in the mailbox-index? I guess you're looking for manual-6.html#index_format, specifically the %F expando. (The default value of $index_format contains %L instead, the list address -- you don't need to see it in the index when all the trafic from the list ends up in this folder. :) -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 4:41PM up 3:36, 7 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00
Re: Mailing list replies
On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:36:49PM +0100, Andreas Landmark wrote: While we're on the subject of the difference of subscribe and lists, can anybody tell me how to get the functionality of subscribe (I.E. Mail-Followup-To set correctly), but still show the sender instead of the listname in the From-field in the mailbox-index? use %F instead of %L in your index_format. -ben
Re: Mailing list replies
* Andreas Landmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-12-2001 16:21]: | While we're on the subject of the difference of subscribe and lists, can | anybody tell me how to get the functionality of subscribe (I.E. | Mail-Followup-To set correctly), but still show the sender instead of | the listname in the From-field in the mailbox-index? | | (I'm sure there is a dead-easy solution that I've missed in the manual) There is ;) check out $index_format: by default, it contains %L (list-from); if you replace this by %F, it will show the author name instead of the list name. Except, of course, if the message is *from* you: in that case, it contains the recipient. HTH, -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Definition of Atheism: a non-prophet organization. msg21678/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quoting when replying, and whatnot...
* tim lupfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-12-2001 15:08]: | On Dec 17 at 01:39PM Thorsten Haude wrote: | | Hi, | | * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-09 20:12]: | | could your attribution string be any more inane? I mean, come on, an | asterisk? they just aren't IN anymore. and brackets in conjunction | with a dating mechanism so unfamiliar and unamerican? that's CRAZY! | my entire morning has been ruined, thanks. Sven, got something to say on this? ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) No woman, no cry. -Bob Marley msg21679/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mutt file browser question
I have all my mail sorted in a number of mailboxes and when I change from one to another (i.e. go to file browser and select needed mailbox) cursor is always at the top. Is it possible to make it stay on the last open file, not jump to the top? -- Oleg Kourapov | Linux user #245698 http://counter.li.org Moscow, RU| LFS user #1212 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org -- Yesterday is a memory. Tomorrow is the unknown. Now is the knowing. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GTW d- s+: a-- C UL++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N++ o-- K++ w-- O M- V- PS+ PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t 5++ X++ R tv- b+++ DI+ D G e* h! r y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg21680/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt file browser question
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:13:08 +0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mutt file browser question From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have all my mail sorted in a number of mailboxes and when I change from one to another (i.e. go to file browser and select needed mailbox) cursor is always at the top. Is it possible to make it stay on the last open file, not jump to the top? I would also love to know if this is possible... If it's not, what are the chances of this feature getting implemented? -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 5:32PM up 4:27, 8 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.03, 0.00
Another command line question
I am using mutt .93.1 on SCO UNIX 5.0.5. A few weeks ago I asked about attaching files; mutt -x -s testing -a test.file username /dev/null This works great. Now I want to send text that is not in a file. It is fields out of my database. I would like this to appear in the body of the e-mail message. Here is an example: mutt -x -s testing this is what I want to say username /dev/null As you know this syntax does not work. Thanks, BW __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Mutt file browser question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have all my mail sorted in a number of mailboxes and when I change from one to another (i.e. go to file browser and select needed mailbox) cursor is always at the top. Is it possible to make it stay on the last open file, not jump to the top? Try patch-1.3.23.bj.current_shortcut.1 at http://home.worldonline.dk/~byrial/mutt/patches/ (It works with 1.2.14, too.) ^ -- refers to the current open mailbox if any Maybe this is what you mean. Greets, -volker -- http://die-Moells.de/ * http://Stama90.de/ * http://ScriptDale.de/ One way to stop a runaway horse is to bet on him. msg21683/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Another command line question
Barney Wells writes: I am using mutt .93.1 on SCO UNIX 5.0.5. A few weeks ago I asked about attaching files; mutt -x -s testing -a test.file username /dev/null This works great. Now I want to send text that is not in a file. It is fields out of my database. I would like this to appear in the body of the e-mail message. Here is an example: mutt -x -s testing this is what I want to say username /dev/null As you know this syntax does not work. /command/to/extract/your/message/from/the/database | mutt -s testing username -x is not needed because mutt is not used interactively if used like above.
Re: Mutt file browser question
Volker Moell wrote: (It works with 1.2.14, too.) Sorry, typo^2. I certainly mean 1.3.24. Greets, -volker -- http://die-Moells.de/ * http://Stama90.de/ * http://ScriptDale.de/ fortune: cpu time/usefulness ratio too high -- core dumped. msg21685/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt file browser question
I have the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook =mbox 'push odendl~Nenter What it does when I open my mbox, sorts the entries by date, goes to the last (bottom) one and then just shows new (unread) entries. Perhaps this will help you? John On 12/17/01, 07:13:08PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have all my mail sorted in a number of mailboxes and when I change from one to another (i.e. go to file browser and select needed mailbox) cursor is always at the top. Is it possible to make it stay on the last open file, not jump to the top? -- Oleg Kourapov | Linux user #245698 http://counter.li.org Moscow, RU| LFS user #1212 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org -- Yesterday is a memory. Tomorrow is the unknown. Now is the knowing. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GTW d- s+: a-- C UL++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N++ o-- K++ w-- O M- V- PS+ PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t 5++ X++ R tv- b+++ DI+ D G e* h! r y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
Matching with ~h over IMAP
I use spamassassin which tags suspected spam with a header that looks like this: X-Spam-Flag: YES I'm using the '~h' pattern modifier to match messages with that header. However, it appears that instead of just fetching the headers, mutt is fetching the complete message for every message in my inbox in order to match that pattern. Is that correct? Is it possible I have something misconfigured? -Ben -- Ben Beuchler There is no spoon. [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- The Matrix
auto_view problem
Hi there, I started playing with auto_view, but stumbled upon a problem: roman@roman ~ grep tar-gz /usr/local/etc/mime.types application/x-tar-gztgz tar.gz roman@roman ~ grep tar-gz ~/.mailcap application/x-tar-gz; tar tzf -;copiousoutput [-- Attachment #2: mutt-manual.html.tar.gz --] [-- Type: application/x-tar-gz, Encoding: base64, Size: 96K --] [-- application/x-tar-gz is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --] application/x-tar-gz; gunzip -c %s|tar tf -;copiousoutput or application/x-tar-gz; tar tzf -;copiousoutput didn't help either. Interestingly enough, this works just fine: image/*; anytopnm %s|pnmscale -xs 70 |ppmtopgm|pgmtopbm|pbmtoascii; \ copiousoutput Any ideas what's wrong? -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 7:24PM up 6:19, 9 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.09, 0.05
Re: Quoting when replying, and whatnot...
% tim lupfer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Dec 17 at 01:39PM Thorsten Haude wrote: * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-09 20:12]: could your attribution string be any more inane? I mean, come on, an asterisk? they just aren't IN anymore. How about @? @'s always in :) Oh, I know, % :) btw, does attribution support optional entries, so when, for instance, the person you're replying to only has an address field, only that's shown, rather than * foo@bar (foo@bar) wrote: ? and brackets in conjunction with a dating mechanism so unfamiliar and unamerican? MM/DD/YY is so braindead. But then, what do you expect from a country full of people who can't even spell colour :P Anyway, I don't bother with the date, if you need information that detailed, look up the thread, same rationalle for deeply nested quotes who's attribution's been lost. 99% of the time, I doubt anyone cares. Seriously though, tolerance is a good thing, we don't need any mutt-user-on-mutt-user violence for the outlook-run news media to pick up on and make example of. I guess we could all set our attribution lines to 'begin 666 ...' and convince their clients the mail's corrupt binary data :) -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Re: Mutt file browser question
* John P Verel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook =mbox 'push odendl~Nenter What it does when I open my mbox, sorts the entries by date, goes to the last (bottom) one and then just shows new (unread) entries. Perhaps this will help you? I think he means the browser, not the message list (i.e. 'change-folder?'). I certainly think it could do with some enhancements; limit support (I have quite a few mailboxes, so limiting to ones with just new messages would be Good[tm]), colours etc. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
Hi Stephan!
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:38:45AM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote:
Strange, never w3m nor lynx can correctly display
http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/manga.html. But w3mmee does.
Plain w3m had wide character support only the for Japanese character
sets Shift_JIS, EUC_JP, and ISO-2022-JP.
In order to view UTF-8, you need to get the w3m-m17n patch from
http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Ehsaka/w3m/
w3mmee is an independent patch for the same purpose.
Lynx has a setting for this. My ~/.lynxrc contains the line,
character_set=UNICODE (UTF-8)
Though I hardly use it now that there's w3m.
vim since 6.0.
Accepts UTF-8 only if you set $LC_ALL correctly. My point was that all
the programs I listed worked fine after I just set $LANG.
Do you have ncurses compiled with wide-char-support, and mutt is link
againts libncursesw.so.5.2?
The standard ncurses never really worked for me, but now Debian has
the slang-utf8 package in testing, so it works fine with mutt.
I have ncurses compiled by SuSE for their distro v7.2. The Mutt I built
myself is linked against libncurses.so.5. I don't have libncursesw.so.5.2.
Hm, two problems exist until now:
German gpg messages aren't display correctly,
Is this problem generally known? If not, please provide details.
Greetings from Saarbruecken,
Cristian
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Re: utf-8 display problem index vs. pager
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Cristian wrote: Hi Stephan! On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:38:45AM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote: Strange, never w3m nor lynx can correctly display http://fsing.fs.uni-sb.de/~stse/manga.html. But w3mmee does. Plain w3m had wide character support only the for Japanese character sets Shift_JIS, EUC_JP, and ISO-2022-JP. In order to view UTF-8, you need to get the w3m-m17n patch from http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Ehsaka/w3m/ w3mmee is an independent patch for the same purpose. Lynx has a setting for this. My ~/.lynxrc contains the line, character_set=UNICODE (UTF-8) Though I hardly use it now that there's w3m. That works better with the libncursesw. I added a few sample files for UTF-8 as I was testing. w3m itself doesn't do very well on those - you must be referring to one of the patched w3m packages. (I looked into setting one up, but it seemed geared solely toward CJK support). Do you have ncurses compiled with wide-char-support, and mutt is link againts libncursesw.so.5.2? The standard ncurses never really worked for me, but now Debian has It wasn't designed to do this (nor in fact is the standard slang package). the slang-utf8 package in testing, so it works fine with mutt. I have ncurses compiled by SuSE for their distro v7.2. The Mutt I built myself is linked against libncurses.so.5. I don't have libncursesw.so.5.2. I don't think anyone is packaging it. Debian may (it's mostly a matter of people finding time). -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: how to display messages on the last line
On Sun 16-Dec-2001 at 11:49:44PM +0100, René Clerc wrote: * Gregor Zattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16-12-2001 22:30]: | is there a way to display a message on the last line (below the status | bar if status_on_top=no)? | | I would like to display a message when a special hook gets triggered. Please give some more information what it is exactly what you want. I, for instance, have no idea whatsoever. I assume the question is about hooks outputting text-strings in the line where mutt-messages and errors appear. It doesn't seem to be possible to do it properly - Here's a nasty macro that hi-jacks a mutt variable to store and deliver the message: macro generic F2 \ enter-command'set escape=Message from a macro'enter\ enter-command'set ?escape'enter \ 'print a stupid message' I suspect real text feedback from macros and hooks would be a handy accessibility feature. -- Bruno
Re: Mutt file browser question
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:53:57AM -0500, John P Verel wrote: I have the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook =mbox 'push odendl~Nenter What it does when I open my mbox, sorts the entries by date, goes to the last (bottom) one and then just shows new (unread) entries. Perhaps this will help you? Thanks for this suggestion, but this hook is rather for 'index' view, while I was asking about 'browser'. -- Oleg Kourapov | Linux user #245698 http://counter.li.org Moscow, RU| LFS user #1212 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org -- Yesterday is a memory. Tomorrow is the unknown. Now is the knowing. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GTW d- s+: a-- C UL++ P+ L+++ E--- W+++ N++ o-- K++ w-- O M- V- PS+ PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t 5++ X++ R tv- b+++ DI+ D G e* h! r y? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- msg21695/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mailing list replies
On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:36:49PM +0100, Andreas Landmark wrote: While we're on the subject of the difference of subscribe and lists, can anybody tell me how to get the functionality of subscribe (I.E. Mail-Followup-To set correctly), but still show the sender instead of the listname in the From-field in the mailbox-index? One useful (default) keybinding is @ which tells you the From: header in the status bar. (I'm sure there is a dead-easy solution that I've missed in the manual) -- Andreas D Landmark / noXtension God is the tangential point between zero and infinity. -- Alfred Jarry -- Benjamin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg21696/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to display messages on the last line
* Bruno Postle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-12-2001 22:18]: | On Sun 16-Dec-2001 at 11:49:44PM +0100, René Clerc wrote: | * Gregor Zattler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16-12-2001 22:30]: | | | is there a way to display a message on the last line (below the status | | bar if status_on_top=no)? | | | | I would like to display a message when a special hook gets triggered. | | I assume the question is about hooks outputting text-strings in the line | where mutt-messages and errors appear. Don't know why I couldn't derive this myself; Gregor, you're post was clear enough. I checked with the source; it shouldn't be that hard to code. But all depends on the exact features you want. For clarity reasons: this was not an offer to implement it ;) -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Originality does not consist in saying what no one has ever said before, but in saying exactly what you think yourself. -James Stephens msg21697/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quoting when replying
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:39:29AM -0500, David T-G (dis)graced my inbox with: % Hi, Hello! 'sup? % As others have noticed, uniqueness is a Bad Thing in today's email % environment. Admitted -- but I also see room for flexibility and configuration choices. I mean, c'mon, LookOut! will even handle %_ gracefully (well, as gracefully as it can handle anything)! The only thing LookOut! handles gracefully is virus propagation :) % quoting level. (It was also made easier by compulsory clear names.) % This was very useful, since you could see with one look who wrote the % quote (not who quoted it). It was color-coded of course. Nobody had Sure. That sounds like Rob's argument, though. Just you wait! Soon, we'll all be using our unique quoting characters! Everybody will have a different one!! MWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! ;D % any problems, because everyone either used Crosspoint or started using % it very soon, so it was accepted standard. Great! I predict the same thing with %_ and mutt. I look forward to the time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with us -- and perhaps find the world a better place as well. I don't see that happening. Given most people's utter dependence on GUIs (just look at Macs), I don't think mutt will ever get 80% of the MUA market share. It may get to be 80% of _*nix_ users MUA of choice, but unless *nix (Linux, BSD, whatever) gets really mainstream, it won't happen. % Your mails are as ineffective as outlooked mails with the answer % following the questions. Oooh, that was way harsh. I didn't like that comment, either. It's a quote string! Get over it! Fair enough. There are probably a lot of variables that you don't need, then. Maybe I should petition to get % added to the default list so that you will be able to read my mail. I'd sign that petition ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Windows NT workstations locked up every 2.58 minutes... The Linux workstations [which replaced them] haven't had a problem. -- Randy Kessell, SBC Communications Inc. msg21698/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Quoting when replying
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:39:29AM -0500, David T-G (dis)graced my inbox with: Great! I predict the same thing with %_ and mutt. I look forward to the time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with us -- and perhaps find the world a better place as well. I don't see that happening. Given most people's utter dependence on GUIs (just look at Macs), I don't think mutt will ever get 80% of the MUA market share. It may get to be 80% of _*nix_ users MUA of choice, but unless *nix (Linux, BSD, whatever) gets really mainstream, it won't happen. With Evolution? No way. The best we can hope (and push) for is to have some good standards set out and implimented. Personally I'm looking to get Mail-Followup-To supported in Microdot-II, and probably Yam (both Amiga clients). I didn't like that comment, either. It's a quote string! Get over it! I just hit F2 and they magically turn into ' ' :) Fair enough. There are probably a lot of variables that you don't need, then. Maybe I should petition to get % added to the default list so that you will be able to read my mail. I'd sign that petition ;) Let's just get it set to a constant so evil users can't change it. Oh, and close source the part of the code containing it, and add anti-pirate code to it. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
save all outgoing messages to Fcc _and_ =sent
so that I may look in one place to check all the outgoing mail regardless of where is is fcc'ed? a simple (mutt) solution? -- Eric Smith
Re: save all outgoing messages to Fcc _and_ =sent
Eric -- ...and then Eric Smith said... % % so that I may look in one place to check all the outgoing mail % regardless of where is is fcc'ed? % % a simple (mutt) solution? Why not just set sent=+sentmail or such? Don't use the fcc function (or hook it to the same place) since you want it all there. If you want it together but yet separate, perhaps you could use something like fcc-hook . =D.sent/%_%O to save it in the original file name but under the D.sent directory under your $MAIL dir... (Oh, yeah -- the %_ ensures that the filename will be lower case.) % % -- % Eric Smith :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21701/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: urlview and bound macro
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 08. 2001 18:40]: 1.3.24i [...] I'm using 1.3.23, perhaps this is a new bug? Also, I vaguely remember having trouble like this with 1.3.15i, but I can't remember any specifics or how I worked around it, sorry. It seems as though I've dug up the solution after many moons of googling. Sorry for the really late reply; I want to get this in a few archives. The problem is that my Mutt (or maybe 1.3.24?) won't use pipes. I have to use this: macro index \Cb pipe-messageurlview\n macro pager \Cb pipe-messageurlview\n ..instead of this: macro index \Cb |urlview\n macro pager \Cb |urlview\n And that ^^^ is still in the manual: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.13 Maybe that should be replaced with my solution? -- Brian Clark | Avoiding the general public since 1805! Fingerprint: 07CE FA37 8DF6 A109 8119 076B B5A2 E5FB E4D0 C7C8 Most people do not know how to behave in a massacre.
Re: save all outgoing messages to Fcc _and_ =sent
Hi, * David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-12-18 02:17]: (Oh, yeah -- the %_ ensures that the filename will be lower case.) Huh? Thorsten -- Das Briefgeheimnis sowie das Post- und Fernmeldegeheimnis sind unverletzlich. - Grundgesetz, Artikel 10, Abs. 1
